I'm John Carter in Moscow.
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In Havana, Cuba.
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Now in Kiev, the
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Now, with John Carter,
Fighting the Good Fight.
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Welcome back to
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Welcome back to
The Carter Report.
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I'm Alan De
Leon, and with me today
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is world famous
evangelist, Pastor John Carter.
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Now you brought up a
very interesting point that,
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in the last program,
that I wanted to make sure
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that we touched on.
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You were mentioning something
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along the lines of cultural wars
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that we're experiencing
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in the United
States at the moment.
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And I wanted you to
elaborate a little bit on that.
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United States of America
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and other great
western countries
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like Australia,
and Canada, and Britain
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have experienced a tremendous,
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a seismic shift in
the way people think.
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This is a part
of the culture wars.
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As we know, an active warfare
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against biblical Christianity.
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And is this part
of a modern sense
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of thinking that has spread?
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You can say, Alan, it
started with Charles Darwin.
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When Darwin basically taught
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that the man was
the product of time
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plus matter plus chance.
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That everything was simply
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the happenchance event.
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There was no
personal Creator God.
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Then it went into the
teachings of Nietzsche
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and Marx grabbed hold of it
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because of his
belief in the great war
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between capital and labor,
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and it spread into
the old Soviet Union.
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It destroyed millions,
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tens of
millions of people there.
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The same basic
idea of Neo-Darwinism
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and the teachings of Nietzsche
is right here now today
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in the United States of
America and in Australia.
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And so do you think that this
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is garnering more
influence as the time goes on?
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Yes, yes absolutely.
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It is the major doctrine
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that is taught in
every American university.
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In the science department,
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in the
departments of philosophy.
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I asked my son David who
attended Sydney University
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and who did a course there
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when he was
studying in philosophy.
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There's no personal God
and there's no meaning to life.
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And so you've got millions,
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hundreds of
millions of people today
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who do not
believe in a personal God
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and they have no
basis for their morality.
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So there seems to be a
pretty sharp line between
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Christianity and science,
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but do you think that there
is a possibility for them both
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to have some kind of mix?
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Oh, absolutely.
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I believe that God
has given us two books.
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One is the Holy
Scriptures, this is His book.
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I believe this is
His inspired word.
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I have total
confidence in the Bible
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as the Word of God.
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We're also told that
He's given us another book
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and that is the book of nature.
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Nature rightly
understood and interpreted
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is in complete harmony
with the Holy Scriptures.
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Can you give an example
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of some type of
harmony that exists?
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Well, in Genesis 1:1,
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you have the
most important words,
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some would say that
have ever been spoken,
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"In the beginning, God created
the heavens and the earth."
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The Bible
teaches a point of time
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when everything came into being.
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A number of years
ago, not so many years ago,
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but scientists started to think
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that the
universe had a beginning.
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Scientists had,
almost every scientist
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had believed in the
steady-state theory,
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the eternity of matter.
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Einstein used to believe
in the steady-state theory
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that there had
never been a beginning.
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He said, "Thinking that there
is a beginning to the universe
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is something that
disturbs me a great deal."
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But then he
received the scientific proof
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that the
universe had a beginning.
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What proof is that?
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Alan, almost every,
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almost virtually
every scientist I would say,
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virtually every astronomer
believes in Genesis 1:1.
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They wouldn't
call it Genesis 1:1,
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they call it The Big Bang.
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It simply means that
there was a point in time
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when there was nothing
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and then there
was a very big bang,
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the point of creation and
then there was everything.
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So you're saying
the form of creation
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that is presented in Genesis 1:1
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is connected to or
related to The Big Bang?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Now some people and
this is not their fault,
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they just haven't studied it.
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They think that The Big Bang
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somehow is tied
in with evolution.
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It's the biggest
argument against evolution
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because it shows a
very finite amount of time.
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There's not enough
time in the universe
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for everything
to start by itself.
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It shows that
evolution is an absolute fraud.
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You see, what they
discovered was this
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and I don't want to
go too much into this.
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They discovered that
the universe was expanding.
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They can prove this,
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they can see it
with the telescopes.
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We live in the midst
of an expanding universe.
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If it is
expanding out like this,
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it shows that it
started somewhere.
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And it started
with a tiny, tiny,
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tiny little thing like a seed
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and out it went.
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And it became the universe.
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This is why the person
who doesn't believe in God
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would leave it
there and he'd say,
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well, you know,
there was a beginning
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and we don't understand
it and it's expanding.
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But we who are
Christians see in this
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and many scientists see in
this the proof of a creator.
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You see, a
beginning demands a beginner.
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And so here you have
a classical illustration
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with science and the Bible
come together in Genesis 1:1,
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"In the beginning God created
the heavens and the earth."
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I teach these
things in my lectures.
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I've taught these
things to the KGB,
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vast crowds of
atheists and communists.
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I've seen thousands
and thousands of atheists
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come to Christ because of
the discoveries of science
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in the light of the
Word of God, the Bible.
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And I know that you started off
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not being an evangelist however,
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and I'm curious to know
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what is it
exactly that you started,
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or where you started
beginning this entire journey?
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In some small way I
have a very small reputation
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for being an evangelist.
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But first and
foremost, Alan, I'm a pastor.
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I've pastored many churches,
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big churches
and little churches.
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Happy churches,
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churches that are
not quite so happy.
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So I've been a pastor.
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I do evangelism
in my spare time,
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when I have the money to do it.
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I'm going to Manila
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only because I expect
that I can by the grace of God
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and with the
help of God's people
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to raise the money to
run a big campaign in Manila.
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But I can't run many campaigns
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because I don't
have the money to do it.
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So I am first and foremost
a minister, and a pastor,
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and a humble follower
of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
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Now I know that you have a team
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that helps you put
all of this together.
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A team that goes with
you on your campaigns.
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How do they influence
the work that you do as well?
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Well, if I didn't have a
team, nothing would happen.
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Here at The Carter Report,
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we've got a fantastic team
and you're a part of that team.
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You're a very
important part of that team.
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Thank you.
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We have a television crew
which we think is a super crew.
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They're just great people,
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some of them work
in Hollywood industry
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and some of them are
on the camera seat today.
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They're just tremendous people.
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And then we've got a department
that designs the handbills
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and we've got a department
that sends out newsletters.
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All of this is done by
faith and people send money
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to make this
great work possible.
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And so,
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I don't have the backing of
some big super organization,
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but I do have the
backing of a big super God.
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Well, it's always a
pleasure to hear that.
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I do also want to know a
little bit behind the team
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and going into
that a little bit more.
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I know that your wife
Beverley also plays a big role.
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Yes.
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What is it that she does
in the campaigns as well?
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Beverley has
done a marvelous work.
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You know, we've been
married for well over 50 years.
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She doesn't want me
to tell you exactly.
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Well, congratulations.
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We've been married far longer
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than you have existed
on planet earth, Alan.
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And she has a heart for God,
she is a super pastor's wife,
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she's got a great
heart for the people of God,
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and she's got a
heart for evangelism.
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It was her idea that
we run campaigns overseas.
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I never got this idea,
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this was her idea to
go into all the world
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and she said to me, you know,
"Don't you believe the Bible?"
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"Yeah, of course I believe it."
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She said, "Well, why aren't
you running campaigns overseas?
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Why are you sticking
with some local church?
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Why aren't you
going to all the world
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and preach the gospel?"
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So she challenged
you to branch out?
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She did more than challenge me,
she sort of nagged me to do it.
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But, but, no, no, no,
what she did was God given.
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But when she's gone with me
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to places like
Russia or Ukraine,
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she has visited orphanages
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and she has raised money
for the children in Chernobyl
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and other places.
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And so she has done a work
which is a superlative work
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because she believes
that God called her to do it.
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God has anointed
her to do this work
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just as much as
he has anointed me.
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And now with all of
this big preparation
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for the Manila
campaign coming up.
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What are the steps
that you're taking to ensure
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that this goes through?
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Alan, we have
so many challenges.
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I went to Manila back in January
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and I met with
the church leaders
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to get them on side,
to get them enthused.
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Then I met with all the pastors
in Manila to get them enthused
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and then we
looked for auditoriums
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because we've gotta
find the auditoriums.
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We've got to find everything.
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My son David came with
me and was of great help.
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And then my friend in Australia,
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the old union president,
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Pastor Harrell Harker
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went there to try
to help get the hall,
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because getting the
hall was extremely difficult.
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We couldn't get the
hall and when we got a hall,
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we couldn't get
a contract signed.
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You know, we don't
go into these details.
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And then I sent another friend
of mine, Dr. John Hammond.
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So we had been on this work
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for months trying to get a hall.
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So you got to,
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you got to
negotiate to get the hall,
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it's terribly
hard to get the hall.
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We are getting the Philippine
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International Convention Center.
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It's one of the
best halls in the world.
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So that must
cost a lot of money?
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Yes, it does.
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It costs tens and
tens and tens of thousands.
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So we know that there
is a lot of work behind,
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behind the scenes that
your team does to ensure
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that these preparations are set?
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Yes, the team is in charge
of setting up the video walls
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and David will be in
charge of the videoing.
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It's like, Alan,
going into battle.
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People who've come
with us on this trip say,
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we're dumbfounded.
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They say, "We had no
idea so much has to be done."
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Then we shoot the
television commercials
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that go on television
to bring the audience.
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And we... This all
sounds very expensive.
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Yes, it is.
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And just out of curiosity,
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how do you raise the
money to pay for all the stuff?
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Well, actually,
it's not expensive.
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If I talk about a campaign,
a big campaign say in India
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and it costs a million dollars,
I don't think it's expensive.
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It's all based
on what you believe.
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Do you believe in the
Bible? Yes, of course.
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Do you believe that Jesus
was right and we should believe
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what Jesus said when He said,
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"Go into all the world
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and make
disciples of all nations."
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Lot of people say,
"Oh, we're past that."
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Well, when people get past that,
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the church starts to die.
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And in some parts of the world,
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the church is dying
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because the church has given up
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on the Gospel of Christ
and aggressive evangelism.
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Now a million dollars for me,
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that's an extraordinary
amount of money to raise.
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It certainly is.
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And when we
produce television programs
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and when we go to Manila.
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We've got to raise
every, as they say in Australia,
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every brass razoo,
it means every cent.
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And people say why do you do it?
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I do it because it
is taught in the Bible.
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I believe that
Jesus is coming soon.
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And I believe, and I
pardon my saying this,
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I believe we're living
in the days of Matthew 25,
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when all the
churches fallen asleep,
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it says they all fell asleep.
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And so do you believe
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that by going out
on these campaigns,
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are you trying to shake
the church awake in some way?
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No, I believe that it's up
to God to wake up the church,
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but I believe it
is my responsibility
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as a preacher of the gospel
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to go and preach Christ
and the great prophecies.
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And we go for one great purpose,
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to win souls to Christ.
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So after so many
years of experience,
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I'm talking 50 plus years
of experience doing evangelism.
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What is a message
that you believe rings true
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or that is consistent
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throughout all
your years of ministry?
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In the human heart,
there's a tremendous need,
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because people are not,
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they're not saved automatically.
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People have got this crazy idea
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which is so unbiblical
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that if people are
sitting in darkness,
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they're automatically saved.
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If that were true
then we shouldn't tell them
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because let's just
keep them in darkness
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because while they're
in darkness, they say.
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This is not taught in the Bible,
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this is a terrible
aberration from the truth.
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The Bible teaches that
people are lost without Christ,
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there's no other
name under heaven
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whereby people must be saved.
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There's no other
name except Jesus.
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Jesus said, "You
gotta be born again."
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All right, how are people
gonna get past that, Alan.
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John Chapter 3, Jesus
said, "You gotta be born again.
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Unless a person is born again,
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he can't see
the Kingdom of God."
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So we go to preach
the red blood of Jesus,
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we go to preach
the Gospel of Christ,
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and to call
people to come to Christ.
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And in the human heart,
there is this desperate need.
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The leader of the
KGB in Russia said to me,
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he said, General
Vladimir, he said to me,
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please he said,
"Don't forget us."
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He said, "We have a
reputation but don't forget us."
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And he put his hand
over his heart and he said
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"We too have a need."
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He said, "We too
are empty inside."
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And so people outside of
Christ in their quiet moments
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recognize that
they are empty inside.
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And we go and we preach
the prophecies of the Bible,
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we teach the
truths of the Bible,
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and we preach the
Gospel of Jesus Christ,
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which is the power
of God unto salvation.
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And we have seen in our meetings
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by the grace of God,
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hundreds of thousands
of souls come to Christ.
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Hundreds of thousands
of souls come to Christ.
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Atheists, Hindus, Muslims.
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People say, "No, no, no, no."
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When we came back from
India and we told the people,
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they told us in Australia.
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"No, that's not true."
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Told the people, a
lot of people in America,
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"No, that's not true."
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That's because
they don't understand
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the power of God.
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I know that India must have been
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a unique experience,
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and especially a
difficult location
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to put a ministry out.
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What was the
experience there in India
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and what is the work
that you're currently doing?
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Before we start with
the meetings in India,
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we hired a big outdoor
arena like a cricket stadium.
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Where people play
cricket, that's the game of the,
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you know, the
English and other people,
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the Australians, New Zealanders.
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We started with a small crowd.
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They said to me,
no one's gonna come,
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many of the
people, the locals said,
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"Hey, no one's gonna come."
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That certainly
doesn't look like no one.
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And we started with
10,000, but soon we had 25,000.
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Then we had
30,000, then we had 40,000.
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Glory be to God,
we lasted the longest
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in a big public
evangelistic campaign
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than any organization
in the history of India.
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That's a
tremendous accomplishment.
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Now in the end, we
had tremendous opposition,
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but when I was preaching there
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to these tremendous
crowds of Christians,
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Hindus and Muslims,
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we had a second Pentecost.
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Incredible.
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We saw the Spirit of
God come down upon people.
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Now, I've told people this
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and they just look at
me like owls, you know.
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They've never seen it.
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Well, I've seen it.
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I've seen the power of God,
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that is why I encourage people
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from America and
Australia to come with us.
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Come with us to
Manila and see something that
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you're not going to
see here in America,
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and you're not
going to see in Australia,
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and you're not
going to see in your...
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You're going to see
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the mighty work
of the power of God.
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You will see people
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who are murderers
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and robbers converted.
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I remember one
night here in India,
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when we had the altar call.
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I'd never seen anything like it.
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I mean 10,000, 20,000
people coming forward,
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raising their
hands, praying to God.
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Muslims, Hindus, Christians
giving their lives to Christ.
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So I believe in this,
00:19:43.31\00:19:44.65
and this is what
Jesus told us to do.
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I want a methodology
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which is based upon
good Bible theology.
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I do this because
the Bible teaches it.
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I am constrained
by the Word of God.
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I wish that more would do it.
00:20:01.83\00:20:04.87
And I wish that
people would catch the vision
00:20:04.90\00:20:08.17
because Christ is coming soon
00:20:08.20\00:20:10.91
and judgment day is
coming upon the world.
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And now as you press
forward and you're getting ready
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to tackle this
campaign in Manila.
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Yes.
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What message would you
want to send out to those
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who may be watching the program,
00:20:25.35\00:20:27.16
to get a better
sense of the overall goal
00:20:27.19\00:20:30.13
for this campaign?
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Very simple.
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I would say to my friends,
00:20:32.89\00:20:35.26
believe in the God
who believes in you.
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Believe, believe
in the scriptures.
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Don't just say, I
believe the scriptures.
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Believe the
scriptures in reality,
00:20:43.14\00:20:47.08
trust the scriptures.
00:20:47.11\00:20:49.64
Believe Acts where it says,
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"There is no
other name under heaven
00:20:51.85\00:20:53.28
whereby we must be saved."
00:20:53.31\00:20:55.58
Believe in Revelation 14,
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where it talks
about the three angels
00:20:58.65\00:21:00.99
flying in the midst of heaven.
00:21:01.02\00:21:03.86
I was talking to a
young pastor, Alan,
00:21:03.89\00:21:05.66
some time back and he
said, "Why do you do this work?"
00:21:05.69\00:21:09.40
I turned to Revelation 14,
00:21:09.43\00:21:11.73
"The everlasting gospel
flying in the midst of heaven."
00:21:11.77\00:21:14.50
He said "Then,
what does that mean?"
00:21:14.54\00:21:16.67
He said, "What do you mean?"
00:21:16.71\00:21:18.04
I said, "What does it mean?
00:21:18.07\00:21:19.41
They're flying in the midst
of heaven, what does it mean?"
00:21:19.44\00:21:20.84
He said, "I have no idea."
00:21:20.88\00:21:23.88
I said, "It is a
public, worldwide proclamation,
00:21:23.91\00:21:27.85
it is big, it is noisy."
00:21:27.88\00:21:31.25
It says they're
crying with a loud voice,
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that's what it says.
00:21:34.36\00:21:35.69
It repeats it
over and over again,
00:21:35.72\00:21:37.06
crying with a loud voice,
00:21:37.09\00:21:38.46
flying in the midst of heaven.
00:21:38.49\00:21:40.30
Now some people try to keep
the angels down on the ground.
00:21:40.33\00:21:43.80
They try to keep
them down with the turnips
00:21:43.83\00:21:45.87
and with the
Kangaroos and everything else.
00:21:45.90\00:21:49.57
They try to keep them
down but in the scriptures,
00:21:49.60\00:21:52.11
the angels are flying
in the midst of heaven.
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Let me tell everybody
this, Alan, if we don't do it,
00:21:55.44\00:21:58.41
God's gonna get
somebody else to do it.
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So what if somebody's watching
00:22:00.78\00:22:02.18
and they feel like
they wanna contribute,
00:22:02.22\00:22:04.25
they wanna help but
they're unsure how to do that.
00:22:04.29\00:22:07.46
What would you
recommend for them to do?
00:22:07.49\00:22:08.82
We're not here
primarily to talk about money,
00:22:08.86\00:22:11.49
but let's talk about it.
00:22:11.53\00:22:13.26
I would say,
00:22:13.29\00:22:14.63
there's some
things that people can do,
00:22:14.66\00:22:16.00
they can come with us.
00:22:16.03\00:22:17.37
People say, "Oh,
it may be dangerous."
00:22:17.40\00:22:18.80
"Hey, don't you believe in God?"
00:22:18.83\00:22:21.90
"It's going to
get me out of my rut."
00:22:21.94\00:22:23.27
"Yes, it will get
you out of your rut."
00:22:23.30\00:22:25.31
It'll light a fire in your soul
00:22:25.34\00:22:27.91
and when you get back
to your own little church,
00:22:27.94\00:22:29.88
it'll light a
fire in your church,
00:22:29.91\00:22:31.91
and most of our
churches need a fire lit
00:22:31.95\00:22:34.88
because in many
churches, they're so cold.
00:22:34.92\00:22:37.85
The fire's gone
out and we talk about
00:22:37.89\00:22:39.39
the frozen chosen.
00:22:39.42\00:22:40.96
We know what
we're talking about,
00:22:40.99\00:22:42.32
don't we, the frozen
chosen, the chosen frozen.
00:22:42.36\00:22:44.86
Now listen,
people can come with us.
00:22:44.89\00:22:48.76
They can come with
us. What else can they do?
00:22:48.80\00:22:50.13
And number two,
they can give money.
00:22:50.17\00:22:52.63
Now they can
give for the preaching
00:22:52.67\00:22:57.04
of the gospel, not
for me, doesn't help me.
00:22:57.07\00:23:01.54
It'll save souls.
00:23:01.58\00:23:04.01
It'll save in the Philippines,
00:23:04.05\00:23:07.58
it'll save drug lords.
00:23:07.62\00:23:10.49
People are like,
"You're serious?"
00:23:10.52\00:23:11.85
"Yeah, absolutely."
00:23:11.89\00:23:13.22
It'll save murderers.
00:23:13.25\00:23:15.29
Last time I went there,
00:23:15.32\00:23:16.66
I baptized a bunch
of murderers, assassins.
00:23:16.69\00:23:21.36
Actually baptized them
00:23:21.40\00:23:22.73
with my dear friend
Dr. Graham Bradford.
00:23:22.76\00:23:24.73
Put people under,
00:23:24.77\00:23:26.10
put these
people under the water.
00:23:26.13\00:23:27.60
As they went
under the water, I said,
00:23:27.64\00:23:29.40
"Why you here on death row?"
00:23:29.44\00:23:31.57
"Because I'm a murderer, sir."
00:23:31.61\00:23:35.04
So we say to
people, give to save souls
00:23:35.08\00:23:39.75
and to change the status quo.
00:23:39.78\00:23:44.52
Now as you are saying
you wanna try and adjust
00:23:44.55\00:23:47.42
or change the status
quo in Manila, as people...
00:23:47.46\00:23:50.36
And also, I'd like to see
it changed in the western world
00:23:50.39\00:23:53.36
like America and Australia
00:23:53.40\00:23:56.36
where for the church
it seems to be business
00:23:56.40\00:23:59.53
as normal and
please don't wake me up,
00:23:59.57\00:24:03.10
thank you very much.
00:24:03.14\00:24:04.54
So do you think that
the impact from a campaign,
00:24:04.57\00:24:07.08
say in Manila can translate
00:24:07.11\00:24:09.41
to impact
churches here in America?
00:24:09.44\00:24:11.31
Yes, yes.
00:24:11.35\00:24:12.68
If people come, if pastors come,
00:24:12.71\00:24:15.88
they'll come back with
a fire in their bellies.
00:24:15.92\00:24:20.02
They will get in touch with God.
00:24:20.06\00:24:22.92
They'll get away
from the pseudo sophist...
00:24:22.96\00:24:27.60
sophistication of our secular,
00:24:27.63\00:24:31.77
sad society.
00:24:31.80\00:24:34.24
And they will
see the glory of God.
00:24:34.27\00:24:37.14
This was Beverley's
idea, it was a great idea,
00:24:37.17\00:24:39.44
when I was the pastor
00:24:39.47\00:24:40.81
of The Great
Wahroonga Church in Australia.
00:24:40.84\00:24:42.98
We had lots of problems
00:24:43.01\00:24:44.55
with young people
worldliness bad theology.
00:24:44.58\00:24:47.42
Everything else, she said,
00:24:47.45\00:24:48.82
"We're not gonna help them here
because they're in such a rut.
00:24:48.85\00:24:51.82
They're in such a
whirly environment,
00:24:51.85\00:24:54.32
let's take them
to another place."
00:24:54.36\00:24:56.96
We took them overseas.
00:24:56.99\00:24:58.86
Where did you take them?
00:24:58.89\00:25:00.23
We took them to Manila.
00:25:00.26\00:25:02.63
And I'm coming back
00:25:02.66\00:25:04.00
after so many, many years.
00:25:04.03\00:25:09.60
I say to people, get involved
00:25:09.64\00:25:11.47
in something
bigger than yourself.
00:25:11.51\00:25:14.68
Most of us are
living very small,
00:25:14.71\00:25:18.18
a little narrow lives.
00:25:18.21\00:25:20.25
We need to expand our horizons,
00:25:20.28\00:25:24.02
but most
importantly we need to feel
00:25:24.05\00:25:26.89
the mantel of the
power of God fall upon us.
00:25:26.92\00:25:29.32
I've taken hundreds of people
from America and Australia.
00:25:29.36\00:25:32.39
And young people
into Africa, and Russia,
00:25:32.43\00:25:35.86
and Ukraine, and India,
00:25:35.90\00:25:38.57
and the
Caribbean and other places.
00:25:38.60\00:25:42.57
And they have been
greatly benefited spiritually.
00:25:42.60\00:25:47.78
And they have gone
back to their churches
00:25:47.81\00:25:50.15
and they have set a
fire under those churches.
00:25:50.18\00:25:55.12
That's one reason I do it.
00:25:55.15\00:25:56.69
What's the last
reason, say, the final takeaway
00:25:56.72\00:25:59.42
that you want
our audience to know,
00:25:59.45\00:26:01.46
as to why you do what you do?
00:26:01.49\00:26:03.39
Well, Alan, I can't say
much more than what I've said.
00:26:03.43\00:26:05.56
I do it because I'm a
Bible believing Christian.
00:26:05.59\00:26:09.36
I do it because Jesus did it.
00:26:09.40\00:26:11.40
Jesus came preaching.
00:26:11.43\00:26:12.93
John the Baptist came preaching.
00:26:12.97\00:26:16.67
Then we go on into the
writings of the Apostle Paul.
00:26:16.71\00:26:20.78
I love his theology, I
love his book of Romans
00:26:20.81\00:26:23.38
and most people
00:26:23.41\00:26:25.38
who have any knowledge
at all will love this stuff.
00:26:25.41\00:26:28.92
But Paul was not
the typical pastor.
00:26:28.95\00:26:32.39
He was an itinerant evangelist.
00:26:32.42\00:26:34.82
People never tell you that.
00:26:34.86\00:26:37.33
So I do it because
it's taught in the Bible.
00:26:37.36\00:26:39.63
And then I come to
the great reformation,
00:26:39.66\00:26:44.73
the great preachers,
00:26:44.77\00:26:46.10
then I come to my
favorite preacher,
00:26:46.13\00:26:47.97
John Wesley.
00:26:48.00\00:26:49.50
And I come down to
great preachers in our time
00:26:49.54\00:26:52.87
and in our own
age who have preached
00:26:52.91\00:26:56.71
the Gospel of Christ
out of doors, in the rain.
00:26:56.75\00:26:59.75
I've preached in the
rain plenty of times.
00:26:59.78\00:27:01.98
And we go for
this great purpose,
00:27:02.02\00:27:04.89
to win souls to Christ
00:27:04.92\00:27:07.86
so they will be saved
in the Kingdom of God.
00:27:07.89\00:27:11.06
Glory be to God.
00:27:11.09\00:27:12.59
Thank you so much for sharing
your experiences with us today,
00:27:12.63\00:27:15.30
Pastor Carter.
00:27:15.33\00:27:17.03
Thank you so much for joining us
00:27:17.07\00:27:18.40
as well on The Carter Report.
00:27:18.43\00:27:19.77
I'm Alan De Leon,
thank you so much.
00:27:19.80\00:27:22.40
This is The Carter Report.
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The word began in a village,
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churches and schools
sprang up and multiplied
00:27:32.15\00:27:36.62
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00:27:36.65\00:27:40.09
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00:27:41.82\00:27:44.59
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00:27:50.87\00:27:54.74
The greatest truth in the Bible,
00:27:54.77\00:27:56.54
it is the truth
that God loves you.
00:27:56.57\00:28:00.24
It has
completely changed my life,
00:28:00.28\00:28:02.14
and I'm going to be
baptized this Sabbath.
00:28:02.18\00:28:04.41
Pastor Carter has
put something in my heart
00:28:04.45\00:28:06.92
that I will never forget.
00:28:06.95\00:28:08.28
Thank you, Pastor
Carter, for your program.
00:28:08.32\00:28:10.35
It has changed
my life completely.
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