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00:02 I'm John Carter in Moscow.
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02:29 Well, I've given talks there and very well received 02:33 and, yeah, my younger son is getting a doctorate 02:35 in clinical neuropsychology at Loma Linda 02:38 and he's really enjoyed his experience there. 02:40 Well, we're just so glad that you've been 02:43 talking at Loma Linda and that makes it so good 02:48 because we appreciate Loma Linda very much. 02:52 Now today, ladies and gentlemen, 02:53 we're talking about climate change, Doctor. 02:58 How much hotter is the planet today 03:01 than it was 100 years ago? 03:04 One degree centigrade. 03:07 That's a very quick answer. 03:08 I thought you'd fill that out a little bit for me. 03:10 Well, it doesn't seem like much, 03:12 but it took 8700 years for the temperature 03:16 to very gradually decline by one degree centigrade. 03:20 In the last 70 years, 03:22 we completely reversed that 03:24 and the alarm is that could go up 03:25 by another one to two degrees centigrade. 03:27 And so everybody would agree 03:30 that during the period of human civilization, 03:34 there has been a time of global stability 03:38 in the climate. 03:39 Yes, we're partly responsible for that. 03:42 The astronomical cycles that began 8700 years ago, 03:47 that would've cooled the climate rapidly 03:50 if it wasn't for the launch of human civilization. 03:54 And so you've got these astronomical cycles 03:57 cooling the planet, 03:58 counterbalance by human 04:00 launch of civilization that warmed the planet. 04:03 And the two almost perfectly cancelled one another off, 04:07 to give this period of extreme climate stability 04:11 that has never existed before. 04:12 So it would almost appear to the naive mind, 04:17 the unscientific mind 04:19 that there was a little bit of divine guidance here. 04:23 I think so, 04:24 the divine guidance is not only on the natural cycle side 04:27 but also on the human activity side 04:31 'cause why I find fascinating 04:33 the growth of human civilization 04:35 perfectly counterbalanced the natural cooling cycles 04:39 to give this a period of extreme climate stability... 04:41 Which is extraordinary. 04:44 So there's a fine balance and equilibrium. 04:47 Well, also gives me hope that we can extend this. 04:50 I mean just look at 04:52 what's happened over the past 9000 years 04:54 if we simply you know, 04:56 counterbalance the coolingness going on 04:58 with just the right amount of human activity, 05:01 we can extend this period of climate stability. 05:04 Does it take much to upset the equilibrium of the planet? 05:08 Well, especially now there are about 7.5 billion of us, 05:11 yes, we have to be much more careful 05:14 about our human activities 05:15 so that we perfectly balance often. 05:19 So almost we're sitting on a... 05:21 On a knife edge, definitely. 05:23 On a very fine knife edge. 05:26 Yes. 05:27 And this would indicate to me at least 05:30 that this did not happen by blind chance. 05:33 What's the main purpose in my book 05:35 whether in climate change you see, 05:37 this is not a fluke, it's not an anomaly. 05:40 This is something that requires incredible divine fine tuning 05:44 in order to make this possible, 05:46 and it's in the biblical context, 05:48 God wants to redeem 05:50 a huge population in human beings 05:53 for that to be possible, 05:54 there has to be this period of extreme climate stability. 05:57 Now you're talking like a Bible believer. 06:00 Have you always been 06:02 a Christian and a Bible believer? 06:05 No, I was not raised in a Christian home. 06:08 I became a Christian through my astrophysics. 06:10 Tell me about your home, not a Christian home? 06:14 It was a moral home. 06:15 My parents definitely believe in the morality 06:17 that's taught in the Bible. 06:19 Eternal life thing is something that they rejected 06:22 until late in their life. 06:23 They did become Christians, 06:25 but not until 30 years after I became a Christian. 06:28 So what made you become a Christian? 06:30 You're brought up in Canada, 06:32 you're brought up in a moral home 06:34 but not in a believing home, 06:36 but you became a believer 06:38 and you lead today 06:39 a world famous Christian organization. 06:42 Well, I got into astronomy when I was seven. 06:45 I was a very passionate student of astronomy. 06:48 When you're seven? 06:49 Yeah, I was reading five books 06:50 on physics and astronomy a week. 06:52 And after several years when I was 17, 06:55 I finally became convinced 06:58 because of my studies in astronomy, 07:00 the universe had a beginning. 07:02 If the universe had a beginning, 07:04 there has to be a cosmic beginner. 07:06 So I began to search to find that cosmic beginner 07:10 and I began in all the wrong places. 07:11 And almost every scientist today believes 07:14 that the universe had a beginning. 07:16 That's true, is it not? Yes. 07:18 But a lot of them, that's gonna where they stopped, 07:20 they don't go on and search for the cosmic beginner. 07:23 I did. 07:25 And I began to look for Him 07:26 in the writings of the philosophers, 07:28 didn't get very far with that approach, 07:30 then I began to look up the world's Holy books 07:33 and it was a Gideon Bible 07:34 that was presented to me in a Canadian Public School, 07:38 I studied that for 18 months and realized 07:41 this gets all the astronomy right, 07:43 it gets all the science right, 07:45 it predicts scientific discoveries, 07:47 thousands of years in advance, 07:49 it never makes a mistake, 07:51 this has to be a message 07:53 from the one that created the universe. 07:54 Now this is extraordinary 07:56 because you read the other so called Holy books. 07:59 Right. 08:01 And you got a Gideon's Bible. 08:03 You were staying in a hotel? 08:04 No, it was a Bible 08:06 that was given to us in a public school. 08:08 A couple of Gideon's came in our public school, 08:10 put two boxes... 08:12 This was allowed in those days? 08:13 It was allowed in those days. 08:15 Wouldn't happen today probably? 08:16 Well today you got a, you know, 08:18 distribute the Bibles off campus, 08:20 but back then, 08:22 they were allowed to come to the schools, 08:24 they weren't allowed to speak, they couldn't say anything. 08:27 They just put a couple of boxes on our teacher's desk and left, 08:30 but I took only Gideon Bible, 08:33 it stayed on my bookshelf untouched for six years. 08:36 Goodness! 08:37 And then finally I have picked it up, 08:39 began to go through it 08:40 and realized this book is unlike any other book 08:43 I've ever looked at. 08:44 While it took me 18 months to become completely convinced 08:48 this is a supernatural, inspired 08:50 inerrant word of the one that created the universe. 08:54 And I got to give great credit to the Gideon's. 08:56 They tell you what you need to do 08:59 once you've become convinced of that truth, 09:01 so I followed their instructions... 09:03 Thank God for the Gideon's! 09:04 And they don't let you off the hook. 09:06 They got a place in their Gideon Bibles 09:08 where you sign your name and date it, 09:10 committing your life to Jesus Christ 09:12 as Creator Lord and Savior. 09:14 So I did that 09:16 and it still took me quite a few years after that 09:18 before I claim that Christians. 09:20 I was looking again at all the wrong places 09:22 to find Christians, 09:24 but eventually I found them. 09:25 And then you went to university. 09:28 In Canada, it's hard to find Bible believing churches 09:31 so I found a lot of churches 09:33 but people there didn't believe. 09:35 The Bible's a word of God. That's the same in America. 09:37 Lot of churches, 09:39 not such a huge amount of Christianity 09:40 but then you went, what university did you go to? 09:43 I got my PhD at the University of Toronto, 09:46 I did meet some committed Christians 09:48 here just a few weeks before 09:50 I was scheduled to leave to go to Caltech, 09:53 so I get a little inkling there. 09:54 When I arrived at Caltech, 09:56 that's where I met 09:58 really strong Bible believing Christians 10:01 in the astronomy department at Caltech... 10:03 That's not far from here. 10:05 And they showed me how to find a good church. 10:08 Within seven months that church put me on their pastoral staff, 10:12 to equip people to use science as a tool. 10:15 And so you found 10:17 genuine committed Christians at Caltech? 10:21 Very committed Christians, 10:23 although I found a lot of them weren't equipped 10:25 to share their faith with their peers. 10:28 There's a lot of atheists at Caltech too. 10:29 Yes, of course. 10:31 And that's how it's discovered. 10:32 Christian astronomers there saw me 10:35 sharing with these atheists 10:37 and using science to convince them there is a God. 10:40 Actually, I got to see some atheist astronomers 10:42 come to Christ... 10:44 That's amazing. There in Caltech. 10:45 It's a great story. 10:47 Now, what did you study at Caltech? 10:49 What did you do at Caltech? 10:50 I was doing research 10:52 on distant quasars and galaxies at short radio wavelengths. 10:55 Yeah, that's a big help. 10:57 Okay. 10:58 Well, I was studying the energy mechanisms 11:01 inside these big galaxy and quasars, 11:04 trying to figure out why they're so bright 11:07 and why they bury in brightness the way they do. 11:10 We now know it's all due to super massive black holes. 11:14 Back then, it was considered a mystery. 11:17 And so you were brought up in a home of unbelief, 11:19 a moral home but unbelief. 11:21 You read a Gideon's Bible, 11:24 God spoke to you through the reading of the Word 11:27 because you discovered that the Word 11:29 was in harmony with science. 11:31 Then you become a specialist in studying 11:33 the fine tuning of the universe, 11:36 and you've discovered that the universe 11:38 not only fined tuned out there, 11:40 it's fine tuned right here in the planet. 11:43 Its fine tuned everywhere, 11:44 all the way down to the fundamental particles. 11:46 No matter what size scale you look at, 11:49 you see overwhelming evidence for fine tuning 11:52 to make our existence possible, 11:54 but especially 11:56 to take our redemption from evil possible. 11:58 I believe the whole universe, 12:00 everything on the earth has been fine tuned by God 12:04 to eradicate evil and suffering once and for all. 12:06 Yeah, we say amen to this 12:08 and our friends at Loma Linda would say amen to this. 12:12 We believe that there's a great God 12:15 and he has ended human history 12:18 in the person of His Son... 12:19 Yes. 12:21 Who is the active agent in creation. 12:23 He's the creator. He did all this. 12:24 Yes, He is. Right. 12:26 Yes. 12:27 The world was made by Him and through Him. 12:29 Let's get back now 12:31 to climate change on the planet. 12:34 Yes. 12:35 Now, for a period of time, 12:36 during the period of human civilization 12:38 through fine tuning, 12:41 the temperature has been wonderfully matched. 12:45 But during the last 100 years, 12:47 the temperature has gone up 1 degree Celsius, 12:50 is it one degree or more? 12:52 One degree Celsius. 12:53 Not more than that? 12:55 Well, it's continuing to go up but as of 2019 12:59 compared to the year 1900 one degree centigrade. 13:03 And this can throw us into a disaster, 13:07 if it continues to go up? 13:09 All, for example about half of the summer 13:11 ice of the Arctic ice cap has disappeared 13:14 in the last 35 years. 13:16 Now I want you to say this again 13:18 because I have some folks 13:19 who they say to me, "No you can't believe this. 13:22 This is sort of a fake news." 13:25 The Arctic ice cap has decreased by how much? 13:28 By about half. 13:30 And if that were to continue, in other words, 13:32 if we continue to warm the planet, 13:35 it could completely disappear. 13:37 If it completely disappears, 13:39 we're gonna get a lot more snow 13:41 falling on the Canadian north and Siberia. 13:44 Both of those regions today are deserts. 13:46 They only get about 10 inches of precipitation per year, 13:50 which is why they don't have accumulating ice. 13:53 But if we were to double that to 20 inches, 13:56 even though both those regions become warmer, 13:59 you're gonna get an accumulation 14:01 of snow and ice. 14:03 And the last time that happened, 14:04 all of Canada was covered 14:06 with more than 3000 feet thickness of ice. 14:09 How many feet? 14:10 Three thousand feet thickness 14:11 and the ice actually came all the way down 14:13 into Southern California. 14:14 And now this is not fiction, is it? 14:17 We have evidence that this did happen. 14:19 Well, just look at your Samahni Valley. 14:20 Of course. 14:22 That was carved out, yeah, by the ice stage melting. 14:26 So the evidence is everywhere and we've known, 14:29 we've been in this ice age cycle, 14:32 but one of the good news is this, 14:34 there are things we can do to maintain climate stability, 14:39 at least for another 1000 years, 14:41 maybe 1500 years, 14:44 hence we can do 14:45 that would actually boost the world economy, 14:48 stabilize the climate, everybody wins 14:52 and there's no need for the politicians 14:53 to get involved in it. 14:55 That'd be great. 14:56 Let me just give you a text here. 14:58 Sure. 15:00 And I got no idea what you think about this, 15:01 but I was reading this, this morning. 15:05 It says in Revelation 11:18. 15:09 Now, I don't know what you think about this 15:12 but personally from the study of the scriptures, 15:14 I believe that we're living in the last era. 15:17 Now, this is my personal belief, 15:18 that's why I do what I do. 15:21 It says here, "The nations were angry, 15:23 and Your wrath has come, 15:25 and the time of the dead, that they should be judged," 15:28 Revelation 11:18, 15:29 "and that You should reward Your servants the prophets 15:32 and the saints, and those who fear Your name, 15:35 small and great, 15:37 " now you notice as well as I do, I'm sure, 15:39 "and should destroy those who destroy the earth." 15:44 Bible prophecy seem to indicate that man would get the capacity 15:51 to interfere with the earth to the extent that he would put 15:56 the very survivability of the earth in question. 16:01 Well, Isaiah speaks about this as well 16:03 and I believe that could really happen. 16:06 It could be a lot more damage to our environmental life 16:10 to take place before people wake up to their senses. 16:13 I'm pre-millennial, 16:14 so maybe it's gonna take the return of the Lord 16:17 to actually bring into affect 16:19 these things are would actually stabilize the climate 16:22 while boosting the world economy. 16:24 So yes, it's possible that things could get worse 16:27 before they get better. 16:28 And so when people say, 16:31 there's no such thing as climate change, 16:36 they're not really giving 16:37 a great deal of consideration to this text at least. 16:40 Yeah, I think what's interesting, 16:42 in the last year 16:43 I've seen that people across the political spectra 16:46 are now agreeing the global warming is real, 16:50 where the debate is what's causing that? 16:53 There's still a big debate 16:55 whether human activity is mostly responsible, 16:59 but I'm finding at least in the scientific community, 17:02 there's now a consensus that human activity 17:05 is the predominant factor, but not the only factor. 17:07 So you think that human activity 17:10 in the last 100 years, 17:13 during the days of the industrial age 17:15 could be pushing us over the edge 17:18 as far as climate change is concerned? 17:20 That's possible, 17:21 but it's a whole lot more complicated 17:23 than just looking at carbon dioxide. 17:24 Oh, it is? 17:26 I think that's where 17:27 there's been a lot of confusion. 17:28 So what should we look at beside this stuff we got on? 17:31 Well, you should be looking at methane, 17:33 you should be looking at nitrous oxide, 17:35 you should be looking at certain carbon. 17:37 I think one reason why the polar ice cap is melting 17:40 as fast as it is, 17:41 it's not just the greenhouse gases, 17:43 it's all that black carbon substance deposited on the ice 17:47 which absorbs heat from the sun. 17:49 And there's other factors as well. 17:51 That's one of things that I'm trying to make clear 17:53 in my book "Weather and Climate Change." 17:54 But these are human factors? 17:56 They're all human factors but they're complicated 17:59 and I think we're at great risk 18:00 in trying to stabilize the climate 18:03 of putting into effect something 18:05 that has unintended consequences. 18:08 So again, I think we need 18:09 an interdisciplinary approach to this. 18:12 In fact we're giving away 18:13 a free chapter in Weather and Climate Change, 18:16 which basically talks about 18:18 how we need to be careful about unintended consequences 18:21 of what we think are good actions. 18:24 And be specific. 18:25 What could be some of the bad things 18:27 that people could do 18:29 to try to stabilize the climate? 18:31 Well, one is we need to stop all lumbering 18:34 and preserve the forest 18:35 'cause they soak up greenhouse gases, 18:38 and when they're not taking into the account is, 18:41 old trees are dying and when they die, 18:44 they release carbon dioxide to the atmosphere 18:47 and they don't grow that fast. 18:49 We actually should be careful 18:51 of our harvesting at least some of these old trees, 18:54 while they are still healthy, 18:55 turn them into furniture and wood at homes 18:58 and then make sure we replace those 19:01 with the younger trees 19:02 that are much more efficient 19:04 at pulling greenhouse gas of the atmosphere. 19:06 This is a very balanced concept. 19:07 It is. 19:08 Well, for one thing you make the most money 19:10 if you use this approach in lumbering. 19:12 Because some people say, 19:13 we should stop all lumbering 19:16 and stop cutting down old trees. 19:19 What about what's happening down 19:21 in Brazil and so forth? 19:22 Well, it's a mistake to cut down 19:24 the Amazon forest and replace with pasture land. 19:27 That's the worst thing we can do. 19:29 That's disaster, isn't it? That's disaster. 19:30 The soil can't support that 19:32 and the greenhouse gases your pull level 19:35 will be much reduced. 19:36 And this is happening, isn't it? 19:37 It's happening. 19:39 But what I'm arguing for is we can have 19:40 what I call responsible lumbering 19:42 of the Amazon forest 19:44 where we're pulling out these old trees, 19:46 replacing with the young trees, 19:48 we can actually make the Amazon 19:50 more productive in terms of the Brazilian economy 19:54 they are more productive in pulling greenhouse gases. 19:56 What do the young trees do that the old trees can't do? 19:59 Well, they grow much faster 20:00 than the older trees, therefore, 20:02 they're pulling more greenhouse gas 20:04 of the atmosphere. 20:06 They're also less susceptible to pass a lightning strokes 20:10 and droughts which means they're less likely to die. 20:14 Keep in mind, when a tree dies, 20:15 it decays and releases greenhouse gases. 20:17 Of course, yes. 20:18 You want to harvest the tree before it gets to that point. 20:22 Now this is a very delicate point 20:25 that I'm going to bring up. 20:28 What about the cows? 20:30 We like cows. 20:32 My wife said, she was brought up 20:33 on a cow farm in Australia. 20:35 She said, "Don't say anything about the cows." 20:38 She said, "I like the cows." 20:40 Well, I am with her in that sense 20:42 is that one reason 20:43 why we have this period of climate stability, 20:46 while the astronomical cycles were cooling the planet, 20:49 we domesticated cows 20:52 and cows release a lot of greenhouse gases 20:54 in the atmosphere. 20:56 And that caused the warming effect 20:58 that counterbalanced the cooling effect. 21:00 Now, however given that 21:02 we have industrial activity that's pushing 21:04 a lot more of these greenhouse gas 21:06 in the atmosphere, 21:08 we might be wise to consider 21:10 replacing the cows with say ostriches and emus. 21:14 Australia's got emus. 21:16 Yeah, millions of them. 21:19 And so because... 21:20 How much stuff do the cows put out? 21:24 I'm told they're big polluter, are they not? 21:27 They are a major contributor to the global warming 21:30 that we see on planet. 21:31 Really major? 21:33 They're significant. 21:34 I'm not saying they're the biggest factor, 21:36 but they are a large factor. 21:38 And if we were to replace our dependence on beef 21:42 with say ostrich meat. 21:43 Number one, the ostrich meat 21:45 is just as iron rich as the beef, 21:47 it's healthier for you... 21:49 Less fat. 21:50 Lot less fat, lot less cholesterol 21:52 and they emit less than 2% 21:54 of the greenhouse gases that cows emit. 21:57 Moreover, you don't need to cut down as many... 21:58 Two percent? 22:00 Less than 2%. 22:01 Less than 2% of the cows? 22:02 Right. Amazing. 22:04 You don't need as much land to raise these ostriches, 22:06 so you don't have to cut down forest to raise them. 22:09 However, there's one caveat. 22:11 They need human attention. 22:14 Cows, you can ignore. 22:15 Yeah, not ostriches. Not ostriches. 22:17 Certainly not emus. 22:18 But if you give them human attention, 22:21 they'll be healthy, they'll be productive, 22:23 you'll make a lot of money. 22:25 Yes. And it's much healthier. 22:26 This is a win-win example. 22:28 It's a great idea. 22:29 People get more money, 22:31 it's healthier for the human population, 22:33 and it'll be a big factor in restoring climate stability. 22:35 Let me just say a few words and if you could comment on, 22:39 if you don't mind. 22:40 Coal burning electricity plants, 22:44 vehicles, planes, reflectors in space, 22:50 whales, the Sahara Desert etc, etc. 22:54 Well, I have two chapters... 22:56 I got these out of your book. 22:57 Yes. It's in Weather and Climate Change 22:58 and basically making a point. 23:00 There's a number of things we can do 23:03 that will restore climate stability 23:06 and actually produce more income 23:08 for the peoples of the world. 23:10 I think was driving this debate, 23:12 we got politicians and scientists saying, 23:15 we have an impending catastrophe here, 23:19 we need to be prepared to make Draconian economic sacrifices. 23:22 Stop driving cars, shut down all of our factories, 23:25 stop burning coal, you can't enforce that. 23:28 No, you can't. 23:30 Telling people to live on less money 23:31 really doesn't work very well. 23:33 But if you can provide them the solutions 23:36 that will increase our standard of living, 23:38 at the same time stabilize the climate, 23:41 I don't know what politician in the world 23:43 that's gonna vote against that. 23:44 Let's go for and we do that, and I would also argue, 23:48 this is a biblical principle. 23:50 God told us in Genesis and Job, 23:53 we're responsible to manage the planet for our benefit 23:57 and the benefit of all life. 23:59 What He tells us in Job is He's provided us 24:02 with the resources to fulfill that command. 24:05 We need to trust God and look for those solutions 24:08 that are simultaneously, 24:10 ethically beneficial and economically beneficial. 24:14 Tell me about the whales 24:16 'cause that's sort of blew me away, the whales. 24:19 Well, people look at whales and say, 24:21 they are the biggest animals in the planet, 24:23 look at all the carbon dioxide they blew 24:25 breathing of the atmosphere. 24:27 Maybe it's a good thing. 24:28 We were close to wiping out the whales, 24:31 maybe we should start trying to restore the whales. 24:33 It was an Australian study that revealed, 24:36 yes, whales breathe out a lot of carbon dioxide, 24:40 but they also defecate soluble iron minerals 24:43 on the surface of the ocean 24:45 that fertilizes the phytoplankton. 24:48 And for every ton of carbon dioxide 24:50 they breathe into the atmosphere, 24:52 they remove 4 tons of carbon dioxide 24:55 by fertilizing the phytoplankton. 24:56 Astounding. 24:57 And when you fertilize the phytoplankton, 25:00 you get more zooplankton, you get more fish. 25:03 So there's more food for the whales, 25:06 there's more food for us, 25:07 there's more food 25:08 for the entire marine ecosystem. 25:10 This is an economic benefit. 25:12 Let's bring the whales back 25:13 to where they were 300 years ago. 25:15 This is evidence for the creator. 25:16 It is. It's all been designed. 25:18 Now, as a Christian and as a scientist, Dr. Ross, 25:24 what is your hope for the future? 25:26 Oh, my hope for the future is that we'd be able to sustain 25:30 this climate stability long enough 25:32 that we could see 25:34 every people group in the world hear and respond to the gospel. 25:39 I mean, this is the biblical message. 25:41 God created this planet 25:43 so that the full number of humans 25:46 He intends to redeem would be redeemed. 25:49 I'm convinced we need climate stability to fulfill 25:52 the great commission 25:53 to take the good news of salvation, 25:55 to all the people groups of the world. 25:57 You plan one day to live forever? 25:59 Yes. 26:01 Not in this life, but the next life. 26:02 We need to realize 26:03 what's unique about Christianity, 26:05 it's a two creation model. 26:07 One creation that God uses to eradicate 26:10 evil and suffering once and for all 26:13 to be replaced by second creation 26:15 where evil and suffering will never exist again. 26:18 That's our eternal home. 26:20 We're simply passing through. 26:22 We say amen and amen. 26:25 And it's been our great privilege 26:27 to have you with us today 26:28 and we thank you with all our hearts. 26:31 Been great having you with us today, friend, 26:33 you've been listening to The Carter Report 26:35 and our special guest has been Dr. Hugh Ross. 26:39 We've been talking about climate change, 26:42 and we've been talking about 26:44 the coming of a brand new world. 26:46 Please write to me John Carter, 26:49 P.O. 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