I'm John Carter in Moscow.
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In Havana, Cuba.
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Now in Kiev, the
capital of Ukraine.
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I'm John Carter in Petra.
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Right here in Communist China.
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Reporting from India.
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Hi, I'm John Carter
in the Solomon Islands.
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I'm John Carter in Soweto.
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From El Salvador.
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I'm John Carter
in Sydney, Australia.
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John Carter
investigates a Miracle in Cuba.
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Hello, friend. I'm John Carter.
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Welcome back to
the Carter Report.
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Today, we're talking about
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our man in Havana, Pedro.
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My guests today
are Susie Piraino.
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Delighted to have
you with us today, Susie.
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Glad to be here.
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And Alan De Leon, glad
to have you with us today.
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Thank you.
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You've just come back from Cuba.
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Yes.
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You've been telling us
about the evangelistic campaign
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that Pedro was
conducting and how he was saved
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by the communist official.
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That's right. Pretty amazing.
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Yeah, the communist
official had told him,
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"You can use the
state auditorium."
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That's right, and
at the last moment...
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Because of some pressure
that was placed upon him.
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The communist officials said,
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"We're not gonna
let you have it."
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Yeah, he took it away
from Pedro in the last minute
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and so he had to scramble
to put the program together.
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What a tragedy?
Apparent a tragedy.
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So we thought...
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So Pedro's given
the big heave-ho.
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But he finds the church
about a mile down the road.
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Exactly.
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He's running a
campaign in that church.
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Is it successful?
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Oh! Tremendously, yes.
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Yeah, pack to the doors,
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and are people coming to Christ?
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Oh! Yes, indeed.
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And Pedro's
preaching. Preaching powerfully.
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He got fire in his belly.
He's putting out his heart.
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He's just preaching
and singing his heart out.
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He laid it all out there.
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He's never been
told, "It doesn't work."
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No, obviously not.
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No, he hadn't
even if he did that,
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he wouldn't listen.
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Now, if you come to
this part of the world,
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or to Australia or
Southern California,
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you're gonna to meet
so many people who'll say,
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"Don't do it, doesn't work?
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No one will go. No.
Have you heard this?
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Yes, no one's gonna come.
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I've heard it over.
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No, we don't do
it anymore, brother.
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It doesn't work, brother.
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We don't do evangelism anymore.
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Yeah, fortunately,
Pedro hasn't heard this stuff.
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He's like the
bumblebee. That's right.
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According to the
law of aerodynamics...
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Can't fly. He can't fly.
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But he's never
heard of that law,
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he just goes ahead and fly.
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That's right. That's right.
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So Pedro is
preaching his heart out
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and people are coming to Christ.
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Exactly.
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Oh, and it's just
a beautiful program.
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He put it all together
last minute changing...
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And he's a great singer.
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Great. Oh, he's
a wonderful singer.
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We've taken him
with us to Russia.
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Exactly.
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By the grace of
God, we're gonna take him
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to Manila shortly.
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Yes, indeed. People love Pedro.
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But the old
communist leader up there
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has got in a great singer
putting on a tremendous concert
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and is laughing about Pedro...
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Right. And we
keep the Pedro out.
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He's going to be a
failure. That's right.
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Yeah, they were taking advantage
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of all of the
publicity that Pedro did out.
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Yes, they used our advertising
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that the Carter Report paid for.
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Yeah, exactly. And so
they want to capitalize.
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That even makes me mad.
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They figure they
could capitalize on that
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and just start a concert.
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And so, as they've got
this great communist concept,
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what happens?
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The winds kick
up, and lo and behold,
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a tornado comes right through.
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A tornado? A tornado.
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Now, this is the second
time in the history of Cuba
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that tornadoes have hit Cuba.
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Are you serious? Second time.
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The second time in
the history of Cuba.
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Exactly, and so...
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And where did the tornado go?
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It just happened to go
right over the theater.
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Where the
communist official was?
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With the packed
house. With the packed house.
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With the Cuban
replacement singer.
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I shouldn't be
laughing about this.
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I ought to be
saying this is dreadful.
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And it absolutely blew
the roof off of the place.
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Literally? Literally.
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And then from there
it caused a great panic,
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people were
running all over the place.
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And you told me
they had chandeliers?
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Yes, the chandeliers started
falling from the ceiling,
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they are falling
on top of the people.
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The communists are
big for these chandeliers.
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Oh!
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It was a fancy, it
was a very fancy theater
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that's only used
for certain concerts.
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It's like Jesus said,
"The house came tumbling down."
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Literally, literally.
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And then criminals
came in with knives?
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Yes.
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Yes, they started
robbing all the people
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that were trying to escape.
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And the lights are out? Exactly.
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And the people
are screaming? Yes.
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Yes, it's chaos.
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And it closes down
in chaos and in shame?
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Right, people hurt and trampled,
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there was blood, he
said on the carpets.
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And a mile down the road?
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Is where we were with Pedro.
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And Pedro is preaching? Yes.
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And people in communist
Cuba are coming to Christ?
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Yes. People
started coming forward.
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Can you say
hallelujah, my friend?
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Amen. Can you say hallelujah?
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Carter Report supported,
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because this was a
Carter Report campaign.
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Yes, it was.
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He wouldn't...
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Yeah, he wouldn't have
been able to do any of this
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without the support
of the Carter Report.
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Why not?
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Because...
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They got plenty of
money for evangelism in Cuba,
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haven't they?
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Well, unfortunately not.
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The average salary
for a pastor in Cuba
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is actually only $28 a month.
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And listen to this, my
friend, listen to this,
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$28 a month is
the average salary
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in communist socialistic Cuba.
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Twenty eight
bucks a month? Right.
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How much is Pedro paid?
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Well, Pedro, unfortunately
doesn't even qualify for $28
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because he's
still going to school.
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Yeah, and he's doing evangelism?
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And he's doing
evangelism. I mean, goodness me.
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And he's bringing
souls to Jesus Christ.
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I mean, goodness me.
That's got to be stopped.
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But yet, he only
deserves $13 a month.
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That's his salary.
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It's less than
half. And he's got a wife.
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He's got a wife
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and he's got a beautiful
four-year-old daughter.
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And $13.
Thirteen dollars a month.
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Thirteen dollars a month.
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It's absurd.
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How does he live on $13 a month?
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Oh!
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It's a strong partnership
that he has with his wife
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as well, and she's a dentist.
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Just as well,
she's pulling teeth.
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Yes.
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And she's running
around all over Cuba.
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But how much does
she earn in a month?
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She only makes
about $38 a month.
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So she's...
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As a dentist. As a full dentist.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so unfortunately,
they can't even afford
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to cover their rent.
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So they always
have to scrape and save
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and do other outside activities
in order to make money.
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Alan and Susie, I was
there when communism collapsed
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in Russia.
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I was there.
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I saw it collapsing.
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I saw the great
lines of starving people.
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It's terrible.
I've seen communism.
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Want to tell my American,
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Australian friends
and the rest of you.
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Don't be
enamored with communism.
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Oh, no. Goodness me.
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No, I mean, look
at Cuba. Look at it.
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It's...
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I mean, communism.
Tell me about Cuba?
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I mean, communism, how
can they defend communism
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when you go there
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and the place looks
like it's been bombed.
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A lot of the buildings
are like are devastated,
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crumbling, falling apart.
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Some of them look okay outside.
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Yeah, some of
them have a nice façade
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because they've been
redone by the government,
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certain
buildings, certain areas.
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So they look good.
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So they look
good but certain areas
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where a lot of the people
live are just totally rundown.
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And you go
inside this building...
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I've been inside.
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What do you see
inside those buildings?
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Nothing.
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Inside the structures
are falling apart because...
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And they're empty.
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Exactly because
nobody can afford to visit
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or go out to eat
or do anything really.
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I wanna tell the audience,
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this is the fruitage of atheism.
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People say no, no, no,
no atheism can be great.
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This is the fruitage of atheism.
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And the people look depressed.
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The people...
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Well, who wouldn't be depressed?
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I mean, you're making 28
on the average $28 a month.
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So people... What
do the people live on?
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They have to live
together in families.
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The families live together
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so they pull all
their money together
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and then the government
rations certain staples
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that they get every month.
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So they're on rations. Right.
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Two kilos of sugar...
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What a successful system?
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You get some flours,
you get six eggs per person.
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And that only depends on
what is available to them
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at that time.
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And beans. And beans, and rice.
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It's not enough for
one person for a month.
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So what families
will do is come together,
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pool together what
they get per month,
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and then they try to make
that last as long as they can.
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But let me ask you a question.
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The people are deprived
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as they're living
under complete socialism.
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People have
forgotten that Russian system
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used to be called
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the Union of
Soviet Socialist Republic.
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And we're not
talking politics. Right.
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We're talking
history. That's correct.
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It was a socialistic system.
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And they had a saying over there
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when I was over there
when communism was collapsing.
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They had this
saying, "We pretend to work
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and they pretend to pay us."
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Right.
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We pretend to work and
they pretend to pay us.
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And Pedro is a
Carter Report evangelist.
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He certainly is.
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And while I take my hat
off to Pedro, because...
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Take two hats off.
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He's not only...
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He's going to school full time,
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they've given him a church,
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which they gave him,
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probably the
poorest church there is.
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Yeah. And he's
got a family, a wife.
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Yeah.
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And his mother
lives with them, too.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, that's
a lot of responsibility
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for this young man.
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But he just, he
just marches ahead
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and he keeps going.
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Well, he's got a
fire in his belly.
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He does. He sure does.
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I got to see that firsthand.
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And one of...
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Alan, you're just finishing
your masters in divinity
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in theology, let
me say this to you,
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and all campaigner,
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and some people are
not gonna like this.
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But often on occasions,
the more degrees preachers get,
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the more boring they become.
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I can understand
that. Can you understand it?
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Yeah. And you can see it.
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Yes.
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The more degrees, the
more academic they get.
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Right.
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And then they can't
get outside of an office.
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Right.
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You know, they think
they died and gone to glory,
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because they're
sitting in an office.
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Where they're busy writing books
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of how to win souls
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when they've never won
any souls for themselves.
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They're out of practice.
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I mean, they've
never done it themselves.
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And they're giving
seminars on how to win souls.
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Church growth, and he says,
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how many
churches have you grown?
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Oh, nothing, I'm just
telling you how to grow...
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No, I can tell you how to do it.
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Yeah. It's pretty sad.
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I know, it's
sad, and it's silly.
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It's really.
Yeah, it's terrible.
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It's silly, it's
spiritual sickness.
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Now I guess
Pedro's got a nice car.
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Unfortunately,
not with the money
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that he makes every month,
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it's barely enough
to cover any of the cost
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that they have for their travel.
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But he is a pastor.
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But he is and so the
church that they gave him
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is actually 11 miles
away from where he is,
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which doesn't seem like a
great distance to you and me
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that have cars.
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But for somebody
who doesn't own one
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that's a 22 mile
round trip by foot.
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Twenty two mile round foot.
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Exactly, and I got
to do that with him
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while we were there...
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One thing about
that, he won't be obese.
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Oh, no. Oh, no, definitely not.
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I mean he...
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On beans and...
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Rice. Twenty two miles a day.
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Right. Exactly.
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Because
transportation to the church
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where he lives is rare.
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So he either has to get
someone to help him get there.
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Or on one occasion, it
was 10 o'clock at night
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when he finished his
Wednesday night church.
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Yes.
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And no buses, no one around.
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He ended up having to walk home.
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And it took him
four hours to get home.
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He got home at
two in the morning.
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I understand too
that he was in danger
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one night walking home.
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Yes, he told me
that he was walking home
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and it's where the road to
his church is very isolated.
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It's dark and completely...
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No lights whatsoever. No lights?
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And it's hilly.
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So you're going up
and down these hills.
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And he's walking and
he said these three guys,
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he turned around and
they were following him.
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So he started to walk
faster and so did they,
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obviously so he figured...
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So there is crime in
this communist country,
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isn't it? Yes, yes.
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But he told me fortunately
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I could run faster
than they could so I...
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So he had to run, outrun them.
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He had to outrun them at night.
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This young
preacher of the gospel.
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Yeah, full suit and tie
and he outran three of them.
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So it's pretty...
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And he wears a
suit and a tie? Yes.
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I thought preachers
didn't do that anymore.
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Well, he travels and
every time he goes to church
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and takes any meeting,
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he's always in
full suit and tie.
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I thought preachers
went to their churches
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dressed as though
they've just been to the beach.
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Yeah, in a lot of places.
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That's what they
do in a lot of places.
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Yeah, they're
completely liberated.
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Yeah, they don't need to
dress up to go worship...
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But the politicians
I've noticed in America
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and the sports broadcasters.
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Can you believe they wear suits?
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Exactly, I wonder why.
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Yeah, Pedro takes a
whole level of professionalism
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and respect
while he's preaching.
00:13:02.78\00:13:04.51
And he respects God,
and he respects the people.
00:13:04.55\00:13:07.68
Right, and the
church members love him.
00:13:07.72\00:13:09.65
Now, we've made a
little a little decision,
00:13:09.68\00:13:14.79
and I want the Carter Report
supporters to be in on this.
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We're going to buy
Pedro, a motorbike.
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Oh, that's gonna be
such a salvation for him.
00:13:22.23\00:13:23.87
Now, we can't get him
a car because he'd be...
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So many would be jealous of him.
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Right.
00:13:28.80\00:13:30.14
And they're hard to come by too.
00:13:30.17\00:13:31.51
Exactly, and
they're pretty expensive
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for what they actually are.
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You mean motorcars? Yes.
00:13:34.61\00:13:36.64
So but we can get a...
00:13:36.68\00:13:38.08
We can get a moped.
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We saw a lot of people
driving around in mopeds,
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and he said, wow, he said,
that would be such a blessing,
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if I could have a moped
would save me a lot of time.
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Can I just
sidetrack a little? Yeah.
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I never sidetrack as
you know. No, obviously not.
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You know, I used
to have a motorbike.
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Oh, you do.
00:13:53.70\00:13:55.03
You wouldn't
understand this, Alan.
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Guys who get degrees in theology
00:13:56.83\00:13:58.67
don't drive Harleys,
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but I used to
have a Harley Davidson.
00:14:00.07\00:14:02.27
Yeah.
00:14:02.30\00:14:03.71
There's nothing much better
than riding down a country road
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all by yourself,
early in the morning,
00:14:07.91\00:14:10.95
with the birds flying up
and the air is cool and crisp,
00:14:10.98\00:14:14.68
and you feel the
thunder of a Harley
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between your legs.
00:14:17.79\00:14:19.12
Right. Oh, must be nice.
00:14:19.15\00:14:21.92
It's a long time
since I've had a Harley.
00:14:21.96\00:14:24.13
My wife tells me she thinks
I'm getting a little too old
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to be out on the
freeways on a Harley.
00:14:27.23\00:14:30.83
What sort of bike can we...
00:14:30.87\00:14:32.50
Well, we looked around
and we saw a number of people
00:14:32.53\00:14:36.10
on these electric,
like little vespas.
00:14:36.14\00:14:37.71
Electric bikes.
00:14:37.74\00:14:39.07
Exactly, it's operated
with a lithium battery.
00:14:39.11\00:14:41.08
And they're
pretty fast, aren't they?
00:14:41.11\00:14:42.44
Yeah, and they're
actually very quiet as well.
00:14:42.48\00:14:44.08
They rarely make
any type of noise.
00:14:44.11\00:14:45.45
So that would be...
00:14:45.48\00:14:46.82
Like a Tesla. Exactly.
00:14:46.85\00:14:48.18
Yes.
00:14:48.22\00:14:49.55
Yeah, and that
would be the best option.
00:14:49.58\00:14:50.92
The Cuban Tesla. Exactly.
00:14:50.95\00:14:52.29
And I think they run,
00:14:52.32\00:14:53.66
you can get a used one
for about 1,500 dollars.
00:14:53.69\00:14:56.62
And brand new, I
think they're about $2,000.
00:14:56.66\00:14:58.89
So obviously that's something
that's beyond reach for Pedro.
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And that's US as well.
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The Carter Report supporters
are gonna help with this.
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Oh, that would be so
wonderful. And we're gonna help.
00:15:05.07\00:15:06.53
No, no, our supporters.
00:15:06.57\00:15:08.07
I'm asking you.
00:15:08.10\00:15:09.47
Come on support
the Carter Report.
00:15:09.50\00:15:11.37
So we can support the
Pedro's of this world.
00:15:11.41\00:15:14.21
That's right.
00:15:14.24\00:15:15.58
You know, as my old friend
in Texas Bill May used to say
00:15:15.61\00:15:18.48
for crying out loud.
00:15:18.51\00:15:19.85
Yeah, I know.
And we gotta do this.
00:15:19.88\00:15:21.52
If we can help him.
00:15:21.55\00:15:22.88
You know, there's
a pastor I met there
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from Guantanamo Bay.
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Yes. Yeah, we remember.
00:15:27.49\00:15:28.82
We remember him. Oh!
00:15:28.86\00:15:30.19
Goodness me, he was
so earnest and so pious.
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And he's in Santiago de Cuba,
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which is on the
very southern end.
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And so dedicated.
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Yes.
00:15:37.73\00:15:39.07
And so I actually
left some money with Pedro.
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I'm glad. And I asked...
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Some Carter Report money.
00:15:42.80\00:15:44.14
Yes, and because you
had requested that...
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Yeah, of course.
00:15:45.54\00:15:46.88
To give some money
to this pastor and...
00:15:46.91\00:15:48.24
Yeah, we gotta do this.
00:15:48.28\00:15:49.61
Pedro knows him, so
he's going to find him
00:15:49.64\00:15:51.45
and give him the little
gift that was sent to him.
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We've got to help
the starving pastors.
00:15:53.52\00:15:55.98
Yes.
00:15:56.02\00:15:57.35
Now, people are not
going to hear about this
00:15:57.39\00:15:58.99
except right here.
00:15:59.02\00:16:01.09
That's right.
Exactly and the money...
00:16:01.12\00:16:02.66
We got to help
the starving pastors
00:16:02.69\00:16:05.19
to preach the gospel to
the starving multitudes.
00:16:05.23\00:16:09.03
Now, he's going to the seminary.
00:16:09.06\00:16:12.43
Yes, we got to visit the
campus when we were there.
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Oh, you did?
00:16:14.34\00:16:15.67
Yeah, and it's
actually a beautiful campus.
00:16:15.70\00:16:17.04
We could have sent
you there for $10 a year.
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Probably it would
have been a lot cheaper.
00:16:19.87\00:16:22.38
But he's getting a
good education there
00:16:22.41\00:16:24.11
and it's a fully
functioning, running seminary.
00:16:24.15\00:16:27.45
And he's studying
00:16:27.48\00:16:28.82
and he's finishing
his first year right now.
00:16:28.85\00:16:33.02
Many of the viewers may
not be aware of the fact
00:16:33.05\00:16:35.76
that the Adventist run
a huge educational system
00:16:35.79\00:16:38.59
around the world.
00:16:38.63\00:16:39.96
Right.
00:16:40.00\00:16:41.33
The biggest church educational
system is run by our friends,
00:16:41.36\00:16:45.37
the Roman Catholics,
00:16:45.40\00:16:47.34
and the second
biggest church school system
00:16:47.37\00:16:50.41
is run by the Adventists.
00:16:50.44\00:16:52.11
Lot of people
don't know that. Wow.
00:16:52.14\00:16:53.84
So they got
colleges, universities
00:16:53.88\00:16:56.34
all around the world.
00:16:56.38\00:16:57.71
Right.
00:16:57.75\00:16:59.08
And in Cuba,
they have a seminary.
00:16:59.11\00:17:01.95
I'm told it's a good seminary.
00:17:01.98\00:17:03.75
They've a lot of people.
Yeah, it's a nice campus.
00:17:03.79\00:17:05.22
They have a lot of people
00:17:05.25\00:17:06.59
that travel from
Central and South America
00:17:06.62\00:17:08.36
just to go to this
particular seminary.
00:17:08.39\00:17:11.06
Now think about this.
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Pedro is a pastor.
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Okay, he pastors a church.
00:17:15.36\00:17:16.97
Yes.
00:17:17.00\00:17:18.60
And he's building a church.
00:17:18.63\00:17:19.97
Correct.
00:17:20.00\00:17:21.54
We'll come back to this. Right.
00:17:21.57\00:17:22.90
He's a pastor,
he's an evangelist,
00:17:22.94\00:17:25.34
he's a singer. Yes.
00:17:25.37\00:17:27.04
And he is
studying at the seminary.
00:17:27.08\00:17:28.74
He wears many hats.
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And he's getting $13 a
month, beat that my friend.
00:17:30.15\00:17:33.58
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:33.62\00:17:34.95
That's correct.
00:17:34.98\00:17:36.32
Whenever you
feel like complaining,
00:17:36.35\00:17:38.85
he's got a fire in his belly,
he believes in evangelism,
00:17:38.89\00:17:43.02
and he hasn't
believe the big lie
00:17:43.06\00:17:47.76
that evangelism is finished.
00:17:47.80\00:17:49.53
That's right.
00:17:49.56\00:17:50.90
Because the idea that
evangelism is finished,
00:17:50.93\00:17:53.23
is one of the biggest
lies that came out of hell,
00:17:53.27\00:17:57.64
that's the truth.
00:17:57.67\00:17:59.01
Now, tell them, seminary.
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You know, Pastor Carter
actually, Pedro was influenced
00:18:01.71\00:18:05.15
by the campaign that
you ran there in 2016.
00:18:05.18\00:18:08.35
Yeah.
00:18:08.38\00:18:09.72
That's when we met
him for the first time.
00:18:09.75\00:18:11.95
And after
attending that campaign,
00:18:11.99\00:18:14.26
he actually decided
00:18:14.29\00:18:15.82
that he wanted
to go into seminary
00:18:15.86\00:18:18.06
and to continue and to
go in to become a pastor.
00:18:18.09\00:18:21.43
And we ran a
campaign there, didn't we?
00:18:21.46\00:18:22.80
Yes, in 2016 we went to
the church of the Varadero
00:18:22.83\00:18:26.70
which is the serpent.
00:18:26.74\00:18:28.07
Yeah, they gave us the
toughest church in Cuba
00:18:28.10\00:18:29.97
because they said,
00:18:30.01\00:18:31.41
we'll see how they get on
in the church of the serpent.
00:18:31.44\00:18:33.58
That's right.
00:18:33.61\00:18:34.94
They hadn't had a
baptism at that church
00:18:34.98\00:18:36.31
for 10 years prior.
00:18:36.34\00:18:37.68
Yes, that's right. Yeah.
00:18:37.71\00:18:39.05
Yeah, because the
pastor said, it doesn't work.
00:18:39.08\00:18:41.55
No one's gonna come.
Nobody's going to come.
00:18:41.58\00:18:44.69
I mean it's sad, isn't it?
00:18:44.72\00:18:46.05
And we thought just
the opposite once again.
00:18:46.09\00:18:48.79
We sponsored campaigns
and run campaigns across Cuba,
00:18:48.82\00:18:52.99
and saw the
greatest number of baptisms
00:18:53.03\00:18:55.86
in the history of
our church in Cuba.
00:18:55.90\00:18:59.17
That's right.
00:18:59.20\00:19:00.54
We did 10 campaigns across Cuba.
00:19:00.57\00:19:01.94
Yeah, about a thousand baptisms.
00:19:01.97\00:19:05.27
Right. That can't be done, folk.
00:19:05.31\00:19:07.14
Right. It's impossible.
00:19:07.18\00:19:09.08
But fortunately Cuba has...
00:19:09.11\00:19:12.21
Pedro, a man in Havana
hasn't heard this nonsense
00:19:12.25\00:19:15.08
that it can't be done. Exactly.
00:19:15.12\00:19:16.48
And like the bumblebee
00:19:16.52\00:19:17.92
who doesn't know
that he can't fly.
00:19:17.95\00:19:19.95
He just goes ahead and flies.
00:19:19.99\00:19:22.62
Now he's trying to
build a new church structure.
00:19:22.66\00:19:27.83
So he doesn't have enough to do.
00:19:27.86\00:19:30.07
Exactly.
00:19:30.10\00:19:31.43
When we were there,
00:19:31.47\00:19:32.80
I took three of the
services for him for his church
00:19:32.83\00:19:35.74
so that he could
focus on the campaign.
00:19:35.77\00:19:37.41
How did he do?
00:19:37.44\00:19:38.77
Oh! He did
great. He did all right?
00:19:38.81\00:19:40.58
He preached on Wednesday night,
00:19:40.61\00:19:42.08
Friday night and
Saturday service.
00:19:42.11\00:19:43.45
So we keep paying him still.
00:19:43.48\00:19:44.81
Yeah. Hopefully.
00:19:44.85\00:19:46.18
So he is earning his keep.
00:19:46.21\00:19:47.55
I won't write to his professors
00:19:47.58\00:19:48.92
at the Fuller
Seminary and say he is no good.
00:19:48.95\00:19:50.29
No, no, actually, the
people were very blessed,
00:19:50.32\00:19:52.69
the messages that...
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Are you related
to this young gun?
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A little.
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Yes, you're his
aunt, aren't you?
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Yes, I am.
00:19:58.19\00:19:59.53
So he take what you
say with the pinch of salt.
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But somebody did do good.
00:20:00.93\00:20:02.26
Thank you. Yes.
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And the people were
very warm and inviting,
00:20:03.67\00:20:05.73
but was most shocking
to us is when we arrived,
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his church was a small church,
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probably half the
size of a small house,
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on the inside...
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Like our TV studio.
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Lot smaller. Smaller?
00:20:16.44\00:20:17.78
So a lot smaller.
00:20:17.81\00:20:19.18
It could fit,
00:20:19.21\00:20:20.55
I think the capacity
was about 50-55 people.
00:20:20.58\00:20:23.45
The inside of the
building was just deteriorating,
00:20:23.49\00:20:25.65
falling apart.
00:20:25.69\00:20:27.02
It had a tin roof, held
together by wooden beams.
00:20:27.06\00:20:29.76
And overtime,
the wood began to rot
00:20:29.79\00:20:34.16
and run with termites
and all that and humidity,
00:20:34.20\00:20:37.10
and it started to fall apart.
00:20:37.13\00:20:39.07
But Pedro had noticed
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when he went into the
church for the first time,
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and he was able to raise $9,000
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and start building a new
church behind the old church.
00:20:46.27\00:20:50.15
Now he's got some
help, not from Cuba,
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from out of the country?
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He got an anonymous donation.
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He said, he's told everybody
00:20:56.28\00:20:57.92
that he's trying
to build this church
00:20:57.95\00:20:59.59
and he got an
anonymous donation.
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I want to say to our supporters.
00:21:01.66\00:21:03.56
Let us help Pedro
to build his church
00:21:03.59\00:21:06.26
for the glory of God,
00:21:06.29\00:21:08.96
and for the souls of the people.
00:21:09.00\00:21:10.67
This is our
responsibility. It is.
00:21:10.70\00:21:13.40
Now, you got caught in a storm.
00:21:13.44\00:21:17.21
You and Javier? Yes, we did.
00:21:17.24\00:21:19.31
And Javier is a
great missionary.
00:21:19.34\00:21:20.88
Yes, he is.
00:21:20.91\00:21:22.24
Thank goodness
Javier was there with me.
00:21:22.28\00:21:23.61
Yeah.
00:21:23.65\00:21:24.98
I mean, we headed back to Havana
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on the Sunday night.
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Yes.
00:21:28.48\00:21:29.82
Because it was an
hour from where Pedro was
00:21:29.85\00:21:31.19
to get back to Havana.
00:21:31.22\00:21:32.55
Yeah.
00:21:32.59\00:21:33.92
And little did we know
00:21:33.96\00:21:35.29
that the tornado
was coming that night.
00:21:35.32\00:21:36.66
Yeah. So we...
00:21:36.69\00:21:38.03
It was hard for us to get a taxi
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because there
were none available.
00:21:39.43\00:21:40.76
No taxis. No cars.
00:21:40.80\00:21:42.13
So we went to the
corner and we just stood there
00:21:42.16\00:21:43.80
looking for
someone that could drive us
00:21:43.83\00:21:45.80
into Havana.
00:21:45.83\00:21:47.17
We finally found this
man with this old beater car.
00:21:47.20\00:21:50.91
I mean, you could see
00:21:50.94\00:21:52.41
the ground through
the bottom of the car.
00:21:52.44\00:21:53.78
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:53.81\00:21:55.14
It's rusted an old. Yeah.
00:21:55.18\00:21:56.51
So anyway, as we're
driving into Havana,
00:21:56.54\00:21:57.88
it starts pouring.
00:21:57.91\00:21:59.25
Literally, it starts pouring,
00:21:59.28\00:22:00.62
and he only had
one wiper working.
00:22:00.65\00:22:01.98
Yeah.
00:22:02.02\00:22:03.35
So Javier was
sitting on the right side
00:22:03.39\00:22:04.92
and he couldn't see anything
with this little wiper's going
00:22:04.95\00:22:07.62
and we're thinking,
00:22:07.66\00:22:08.99
Okay, this is not
going to be very safe here.
00:22:09.02\00:22:11.13
So fortunately, further we...
00:22:11.16\00:22:12.99
The closer we got to Havana,
the winds were kicking up,
00:22:13.03\00:22:16.60
the rain was now torrential.
00:22:16.63\00:22:18.63
So we hadn't eaten all day long.
00:22:18.67\00:22:21.04
So Javier said, "Let's
stop at this restaurant"
00:22:21.07\00:22:23.10
that's like eight blocks
from where we were staying.
00:22:23.14\00:22:25.84
And then we'll
just walk to our hotel.
00:22:25.87\00:22:27.74
Yeah. So the guy drops us off.
00:22:27.78\00:22:30.15
And when we got
into the restaurant,
00:22:30.18\00:22:33.38
the lights went
out in all of Cuba,
00:22:33.42\00:22:36.18
it was a blackout.
00:22:36.22\00:22:37.72
So fortunately, we
picked the one restaurant
00:22:37.75\00:22:40.59
that had a generator.
00:22:40.62\00:22:42.06
So the lights came back on,
00:22:42.09\00:22:43.43
we were able to
get something to eat.
00:22:43.46\00:22:45.09
And then Javier
said, "Can you call a taxi,
00:22:45.13\00:22:47.83
so it can take us
back because it's pouring."
00:22:47.86\00:22:50.53
And he said, "I'm sorry,
00:22:50.57\00:22:51.90
no taxis are
allowed to come this way
00:22:51.93\00:22:53.74
because the rains are so bad.
00:22:53.77\00:22:56.44
The water is just
rushing down the street.
00:22:56.47\00:22:58.81
No cars can come in."
00:22:58.84\00:23:00.44
So he said, "What
are we going to do?"
00:23:00.48\00:23:02.01
He said, "Well, you
just gonna have to walk."
00:23:02.04\00:23:04.68
So you did it?
00:23:04.71\00:23:06.05
It's pitch-black. Yeah.
00:23:06.08\00:23:07.42
It's storming and raining. Yeah.
00:23:07.45\00:23:09.48
And there are big
holes in the streets
00:23:09.52\00:23:11.55
everywhere in Cuba.
00:23:11.59\00:23:12.95
So we said, "What
are we going to do?
00:23:12.99\00:23:14.32
We're going to walk."
00:23:14.36\00:23:15.69
So Javier got
out his cell phone,
00:23:15.72\00:23:17.06
and he sort of
lit up the ground.
00:23:17.09\00:23:19.39
And we just, I held on to him
00:23:19.43\00:23:21.13
because the winds were
really roaring by this time.
00:23:21.16\00:23:24.37
We had no idea
there was a tornado
00:23:24.40\00:23:26.17
that was coming
through to Havana.
00:23:26.20\00:23:28.97
So we're walking
almost eight blocks
00:23:29.00\00:23:31.01
to get back to our hotel,
00:23:31.04\00:23:32.37
we're seeing these metal things
just flying across the air
00:23:32.41\00:23:35.08
and we're thinking,
00:23:35.11\00:23:36.44
"Okay, it's just
because of all this garbage
00:23:36.48\00:23:37.91
that's everywhere."
00:23:37.95\00:23:39.28
But fortunately, way down
we saw one building lit up
00:23:39.31\00:23:42.68
and it was our hotel.
00:23:42.72\00:23:44.09
Let me tell you something.
00:23:44.12\00:23:46.02
You are now a missionary.
00:23:46.05\00:23:48.39
You know what a
missioner, who a missionary is?
00:23:48.42\00:23:51.26
A person with
the mission for God.
00:23:51.29\00:23:53.86
That's right.
00:23:53.90\00:23:55.23
Now, let me tell
you, folk, something.
00:23:55.26\00:23:57.00
While you were there,
00:23:57.03\00:23:59.30
my son David was in India.
00:23:59.33\00:24:02.40
Oh, that's great.
00:24:02.44\00:24:03.77
And David was over there
00:24:03.81\00:24:05.44
helping the
work of God in India.
00:24:05.47\00:24:07.31
We're on television in India.
00:24:07.34\00:24:08.98
That's right.
00:24:09.01\00:24:10.41
A lot of people don't know this,
00:24:10.45\00:24:11.78
but we're on
television in India.
00:24:11.81\00:24:13.78
It's terribly
difficult in India.
00:24:13.82\00:24:16.28
And also, we're looking
after some children in India.
00:24:16.32\00:24:19.59
Right, we sponsors
lot of untouchable girls.
00:24:19.62\00:24:23.06
Some untouchable little girls.
00:24:23.09\00:24:25.63
I want to say to the
people who're watching,
00:24:25.66\00:24:27.70
support this work,
00:24:27.73\00:24:29.06
this is the greatest
work, this is the best.
00:24:29.10\00:24:31.90
This is the best investment.
00:24:31.93\00:24:33.87
And then we're
supporting some children down
00:24:33.90\00:24:35.70
in El Salvador too.
00:24:35.74\00:24:37.61
That's right. Keeping them safe.
00:24:37.64\00:24:39.47
That's right. El
Salvador's another country.
00:24:39.51\00:24:41.91
And so, the work goes
on. It certainly does.
00:24:41.94\00:24:45.38
And I want to say...
00:24:45.41\00:24:46.75
I want to say to both you folks,
00:24:46.78\00:24:48.18
well done, good
and faithful servant.
00:24:48.22\00:24:50.85
It was my pleasure.
00:24:50.89\00:24:52.22
You've done well,
and thank God for Pedro.
00:24:52.25\00:24:53.92
Oh, yes.
00:24:53.96\00:24:55.29
And thank God
for you, my friend.
00:24:55.32\00:24:57.93
Thank God for you
because you make this possible.
00:24:57.96\00:25:01.10
Please write to me today,
John Carter, P.O. Box 1900,
00:25:01.13\00:25:05.07
Thousand Oaks, California 91358.
00:25:05.10\00:25:08.74
In Australia, write to me
at the address on the screen.
00:25:08.77\00:25:12.47
Support Pedro.
00:25:12.51\00:25:15.08
Help us to support
the building of churches.
00:25:15.11\00:25:18.91
Help us to support the
preaching of the gospel,
00:25:18.95\00:25:22.28
whether it's in Cuba,
00:25:22.32\00:25:24.49
or in India.
00:25:24.52\00:25:26.55
Support the preaching
of the gospel in India,
00:25:26.59\00:25:29.52
where there's persecution.
00:25:29.56\00:25:32.09
And I just want to thank you,
Susie, and Alan, and Javier,
00:25:32.13\00:25:38.93
for being true
soldiers of the cross.
00:25:38.97\00:25:41.67
Thank you.
00:25:41.70\00:25:43.04
And until next time,
00:25:43.07\00:25:45.47
may the Lord bless
you and watch over you.
00:25:45.51\00:25:48.48
And thank you
for standing with us.
00:25:48.51\00:25:50.51
There's only one thing
00:25:54.98\00:25:56.32
that really
counts in this lifetime,
00:25:56.35\00:25:59.02
your relationship to Christ.
00:25:59.05\00:26:01.86
And then if you
have a right relationship
00:26:01.89\00:26:03.63
with Christ,
00:26:03.66\00:26:05.46
you want to tell
people about Christ.
00:26:05.49\00:26:08.36
That's why Jesus
said, "Go into all the world
00:26:08.40\00:26:10.93
and preach the
gospel to every creature."
00:26:10.97\00:26:14.87
By the grace of God,
we're going to do that,
00:26:14.90\00:26:17.64
we are doing that.
00:26:17.67\00:26:19.64
That is why we're
going back to Cuba,
00:26:19.67\00:26:22.08
to this communist
land, to preach Christ.
00:26:22.11\00:26:26.61
We're accepting an
invitation to go to the vast,
00:26:26.65\00:26:30.89
huge city of Manila,
00:26:30.92\00:26:33.36
the capital of the
Philippines, been there before,
00:26:33.39\00:26:36.46
but by the grace of
God, we're going back.
00:26:36.49\00:26:39.96
Please support us.
00:26:40.00\00:26:41.56
And please stand with us
00:26:41.60\00:26:44.33
in the preaching of
the everlasting gospel.
00:26:44.37\00:26:46.97
You say, "How do you do
it? Who pays the bills?"
00:26:47.00\00:26:50.14
We do.
00:26:50.17\00:26:51.51
"Do you get any help,
00:26:51.54\00:26:52.87
financial help from the church?"
00:26:52.91\00:26:54.34
No, my friend, we don't.
00:26:54.38\00:26:56.21
But we get a lot of help
from God and from His children.
00:26:56.24\00:27:00.65
Please support
us in the preaching
00:27:00.68\00:27:03.72
of the everlasting gospel.
00:27:03.75\00:27:05.49
It's the most
important work in all the world.
00:27:05.52\00:27:08.46
Everything else
is almost trivia.
00:27:08.49\00:27:11.56
So would you please write to me?
00:27:11.59\00:27:15.30
John Carter, P.O. Box 1900,
00:27:15.33\00:27:18.97
Thousand Oaks, California 91358.
00:27:19.00\00:27:23.57
Do your best for Jesus.
00:27:23.61\00:27:25.61
Do your best for the gospel.
00:27:25.64\00:27:28.01
And in Australia,
write to me at Terrigal.
00:27:28.04\00:27:31.85
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this, every dime, every dollar
00:27:31.88\00:27:37.15
is going to be used to win souls
00:27:37.19\00:27:39.42
to our Lord Jesus Christ.
00:27:39.45\00:27:41.79
Please write to me today.
00:27:41.82\00:27:46.39
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00:27:46.43\00:27:47.76
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