Hello, friend.
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I'm John Carter.
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Welcome today to
the Carter Report.
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We have two special
guests here with us today,
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Susan Piraino, Alan De Leon.
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They've just come back
as missionaries to Cuba,
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Communist Cuba.
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And they've got a
tremendous story to tell.
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Stay with us and
welcome to the Carter Report.
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I'm John Carter in Moscow.
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In Havana, Cuba.
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Now in Kiev, the
capital of Ukraine.
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I'm John Carter in Petra.
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Right here in Communist China.
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Reporting from India.
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Hi, I'm John Carter
in the Solomon Islands.
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I'm John Carter in Soweto.
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From El Salvador.
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I'm John Carter
in Sydney, Australia.
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John Carter
investigates a Miracle in Cuba.
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Welcome back to
the Carter Report.
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We have a
tremendous program today.
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I have two special guests
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who have just come
back from Communist Cuba.
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Susan Piraino,
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we're so glad to have
you with us today, Susie,
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and Alan De Leon.
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Now, Susie, how
long have you worked
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for the Carter Report for?
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I am now in my 25th
year with the Carter Report.
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I never knew you
were 25 years old,
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25 years with the Carter Report.
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Twenty five years, yes.
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You are the
Director of Communications
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for the Carter Report,
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Evangelistic
Worldwide Association.
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Yes.
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Alan, you're
doing a degree right now
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at Fuller Seminary, aren't you?
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Yes. Correct.
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What are you doing it in?
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I'm doing it in
theology and ministry,
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and I'm currently
finishing my last year.
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Ah, this is tremendous, Alan,
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we're very, very proud of
you, a degree in theology.
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Yes.
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You know, you didn't
have to do that degree.
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You just had to talk to me.
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It's right? I'd
be a lot cheaper.
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We're glad to have you with us.
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You've just come
back from Havana, in Cuba.
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Yes, indeed.
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Now, while you
were Havana, Cuba,
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you're helping to run on
behalf of the Carter Report
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an evangelistic campaign...
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Indeed. To preach
the Gospel of Christ.
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Yes. Mm-hmm.
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And the roof blew off.
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Yeah, it's a pretty
amazing story actually...
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Tell me about the
roof that blew off?
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Well, we were meant to run
this campaign in a theater.
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It's a public theater
that Pedro was able to
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get from the government.
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And who is this Pedro?
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Pedro is a young Cuban,
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who is now presently
going to seminary as well.
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And he's working
towards his degree in theology.
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He came with us to Russia.
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Yes.
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And he's a bit of a
firebrand, isn't he?
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Oh, Pedro is pretty incredible.
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He's bit of a
preacher, isn't it?
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Yeah, very much so.
He got some dunamis.
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Oh, yeah. Exactly.
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Okay, tell us about
the roof that blew off?
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Well, the theater
that we were meant
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to run the campaign
and beautiful theater.
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And Pedro has worked very hard.
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But I understand in Cuba,
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you can only run
campaigns in church building.
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You can.
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Yeah, but because Pedro
is recognized as an artist,
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a musical artist in
Cuba for his singing,
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he was able to get a contract
for a government building,
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which was this
hall that we originally
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intended to do the campaign in.
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And it's a nice place.
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Oh, it was
beautiful. It's a theater.
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And it's in Havana.
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It's outside of
Havana, actually.
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Oh, I never knew this.
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It's in a city called Guines.
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And so, this is where Pedro,
it's two hours from his home.
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And so it's a
little track for him,
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but he was able to find it.
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How did he get permission
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and from whom did
he get the permission?
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Well, because he's
recognized as an artist,
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he gets special permission
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to rent out government
owned halls to do performances.
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So he was able to get in contact
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with one of the
commanding officials of that
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hall in Guines.
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Because that's
pretty rare, isn't it?
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Oh, it is extremely.
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To run an evangelistic campaign
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in a public hall
in communist Cuba.
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It is.
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And he was able to
convince the government
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that it was in
fact more of a concert
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than it would be
an outreach program.
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See, I can never do that.
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Yeah. No.
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Because of his recognition
as a good singer in Cuba.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They were more inclined
to let him use the hall.
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And so because of
that, he was able to get
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all the paperwork
settled to do the campaign.
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And so he's going
to run this campaign
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and you're over there
with Javier, your husband.
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Javier came with us. Yeah.
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So there's a team
of three Americans.
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And then there's
Pedro, our young preacher.
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And his wife and his
beautiful little Dora.
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Yes. Yes.
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Has a beautiful family. Yeah.
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And so he's got permission
from the communist government
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to run this
campaign for Christ and truth
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in this auditorium,
just outside Havana.
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Yes.
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And so the story begins
where we're getting ready to go
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and obviously,
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this hall is
already he's advertised,
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he's prepared
10,000 invitations.
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How did he? How
can he advertise?
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Well, we sponsored him.
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He said he wanted to do
certain number of things.
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And so we said how much
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and we said we
could help him do this.
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We said, let's double it.
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Well, thankfully, with
the help from the donors,
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specifically donating
for evangelism in Cuba.
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Yes. Right.
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You were able
to take those funds
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and directly
submit them to Pedro.
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So that he could get
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all of these small cost theater.
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What sort of advertising?
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He did print advertising,
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and I believe he also did,
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well, just a
large print campaign.
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He was able to
send all of those out
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to all over that city of Guines.
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Yeah.
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He also prepared a banner.
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It's about six
feet across. Yeah.
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So he had a
banner for the church
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and he did posters,
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and he told me he
did 5,000 invitations.
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And I just want to
say to the audience,
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I've met Pedro.
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He came with us to
Russia, and he's a great singer.
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And Pedro has got something
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that a lot of
preachers don't have.
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You know what he's got?
He got fire in his belly.
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Yeah, he does. And his singing.
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You don't have to
wind him up, do you?
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No, no.
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You got to hold him back.
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Yeah, you got to
say okay, take it easy.
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Yeah. Take it easy.
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And his wife is
a great supporter.
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Oh, she is his...
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She's by his
side, and she helps him
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and he can't do it without her.
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So he's got
permission from the communist
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authorities in Cuba.
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He's got this big
public auditorium.
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And he's given out
all of these handbills
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and he's ready to go.
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Right.
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And this theater
seats 800 people.
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Well, that's not bad for Cuba.
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So that's not a little theater.
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It's not bad
inside. It's pretty big.
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So he's excited
because 800 people
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we're for sure gonna fill it up.
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It's a great theater,
too bad it had a weak roof.
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That's right. Okay.
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But it wasn't
counting on the bad weather.
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Yeah, tell us what happened?
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So tell us,
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he's about ready
to start the campaign.
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Right.
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We arrived on the Tuesday
and we were getting ready,
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helping him with all the preps.
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And it was to start on Saturday.
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And so we didn't know that
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there was going to be
a change in the weather.
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And so it took place.
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And because we didn't
have any communication,
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there's no TV, no
internet, nothing,
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we were clueless
other than looking up
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at the sky and
saying it's cloudy.
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You were in splendid isolation.
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Yeah, a little bit
different, wasn't it?
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It definitely was.
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And so as soon as or as
a result of the weather,
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it knocked out power completely
in the area where we were.
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But what happened
to opening in the hall,
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the communist hall?
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Well, we were
with him on Thursday
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and word had gotten
out from some people
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that we're
working closely with him,
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that us as Americans,
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we're going to
participate in the campaign.
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So there was a
lot of misinformation
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and miscommunication.
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But the person that he
originally had spoke to,
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to rent the hall
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found out that Americans
were going to be attending
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and possibly speaking.
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So they called him on Thursday
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to ask for our
passport information.
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He was a little weary in
terms of giving it to them.
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But the person had threatened
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to completely
cancel the campaign
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unless we handed over
our passport information.
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Once we did,
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he called back
within the hour saying
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that the entire
campaign was cancelled
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and that Pedro would no
longer be able to use the hall.
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That's pretty
disappointing, isn't it?
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He was devastated
because obviously,
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he'd been preparing for months.
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And it wasn't,
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you couldn't have felt too good
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because now
you've gone to help him.
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Yeah. Right.
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And it was potentially our fault
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that we were unable
to do anything there.
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You heard the story
of Jonah, haven't you?
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Yes.
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That's what we told him, we say,
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well, if need
be, we won't attend.
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We won't even go to the hall.
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So they won't see
us there if that helps.
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And so I
understand that he went then
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and played with
the top man there...
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Yes, he was the
political leader of the...
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The communist official. Exactly.
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And I was with him all day
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as he was going through
this process on Thursday
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and I witnessed it firsthand.
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He was essentially
shackled to his phone
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trying to get all
of this information
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and communicate the idea across.
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He was even
trying to go out there
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and physically speak
to them face to face.
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But they kept putting him off
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because all they
said was it was cancelled
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and nothing was gonna happen.
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So that's what happens
in a communist country.
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Right.
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You've got all of
these faithless bureaucrats.
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Right.
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If you think we got a
bureaucracy in America,
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try going to a
communist country.
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Right.
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And he had been cleared
by all the other officials
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of the city, so everybody knew.
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Except one person.
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Except one
because he had been sick.
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And so apparently,
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it wasn't shared with him that
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it was gonna be that weekend.
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So he was upset
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because he wasn't in
the loop so to speak.
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So, you know, we have a little
team come from California,
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little part of
the Carter Report,
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three important people
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that go over
there to support Pedro.
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And they've got
this great auditorium
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and they're ready to go,
this is history in the making.
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And a communist
official the headman,
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what do you call him in Spanish?
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The Headman?
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Yeah, it says.
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The head honcho
but... Oh, the head honcho.
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Yeah. That's pretty much.
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Wants you folks to know
that I'm up on my Spanish.
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So the head honcho
the communist says?
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No. No.
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In Russia, he
would have said what?
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Nyet. That's right.
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We've heard that
many times. Yes, we have.
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You know.
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Unfortunately
Pedro was very devastated
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and we were too
for being responsible.
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And so a credit to his intuition
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and his craftiness to
figure out another solution.
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Craftiness? Exactly.
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Wisdom. Exactly.
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Wisdom exactly and
he was able to speak
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to a pastor that had a church
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within a mile of
the original hall.
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That was a blessing, yeah.
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And so because of that
he was slightly disappointed
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that it wasn't
able to hold the 1400.
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And this was an
Adventist church, was it not?
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Yes, correct. Yeah.
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Exactly.
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And so by the end
of Friday morning,
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Pedro had stayed up
that entire day Thursday,
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the night prior trying to
organize this new campaign
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and so we were essentially
able to lock in this church.
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And we had moved
the entire campaign
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to this smaller church,
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which was a mile from
the original location.
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But the church
was packed, wasn't it?
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Oh, it was.
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There wasn't enough
room for the people.
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I mean, I went
upstairs to the balcony,
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and they had to
bring in more benches.
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And they kept
bringing out more benches
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and it was just jam packed.
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Pedro's preaching away. Yes.
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Pedro's going full steam.
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Did he sing too? Yes.
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And, you know, Pedro,
his campaign he had a choir,
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he had a violinist.
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Oh, he did.
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And he gave his
opening, he shared about Russia.
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He had video of
himself singing in Russia.
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And so he had quite
an elaborate program.
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Yeah, he's a doer.
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We were pretty amazed. Yes.
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We were impressed
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and he had so many different
aspects to his program.
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And all of them were organized
through him and by him.
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So he singlehandedly
put all of this together.
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So he's
preaching, and he's teaching,
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and he's singing in,
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in this auditorium and
he's got how many people?
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He's got... In
the church you mean?
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In the church, yeah.
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Yeah, there were over
450 more, no more could fit.
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In Cuba, that's a
big crowd... Right.
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Going to a religious meeting.
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And he had an audio team.
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He brought in lighting,
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see how all of this
prepared for the theater.
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So they had to move
all of that equipment.
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I'd like to give him a job.
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Oh, I know. Yeah.
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He's deserving. Quite a doer.
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I'm telling you,
he's pretty impressive.
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And so the
logistics of just having
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to move everything in
itself was a huge undertaking.
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So I'm told that he went
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and spoke to this
communist official,
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but maybe there was more
to it than meets the eye.
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But somebody or
some people were out to,
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to do this young man in.
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Yes.
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And to stop him
preaching the gospel.
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Goodness me.
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Who is Pedro? Yeah.
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He's got a bit of
a nerve, hasn't he?
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Right.
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He's hired this big auditorium,
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and he's got the
backing of the government.
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I think he was
too successful. Yeah.
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It doesn't pay my
friend to get too successful.
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I'm just being facetious.
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Yeah, no. It's true.
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I mean, he had a
lot of attention.
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Yes.
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And so especially the fact
that three foreigners had come.
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I mean, that was
sort of unheard of,
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for this little local pastor.
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So he's given the
big heave-ho. Yes.
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You say, no,
you're not gonna do it.
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So we said, "Okay,
let's make the best of this.
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Let's just move to the church."
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And he even got a couple of
our deacons from the church,
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and they printed up
flyers on the last minute.
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So he had those
deacons go to the theater.
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In night of,
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he had those deacons
night of the campaign
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standing at the
original venue directing people
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to the new venue of the church.
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So he had organized
all of this on the fly.
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And so you told me
this when you came back,
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the communist official
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put on a special
opposition program.
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Program, a program.
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Yeah, they got on
a national singer.
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That's right.
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Because they saw that
there was a lot of people
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coming in and wanting to
see something happen there.
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We're going to
beat these people,
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these Christians who
are preaching the gospel.
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That's right.
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We're going to
beat him bad. Yeah.
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And we're going to
put on a big concert.
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Oh, and it's gonna be popular,
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and we're gonna
make a lot of money
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because they were
gonna charge for each seat.
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And this little
Pedro, he's down the road,
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and nobody's gonna
hear about this Pedro.
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That's right,
that's what they thought.
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Yes.
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So they actually
hired a famous Cuban singer
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that does Cuban music.
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Pretty
well-known, Pedro told me.
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And this singer was
then to come in on Sunday.
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Because since Saturday,
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there was no one and
the people were there.
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So they thought, oh, well,
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we'll give them
something on Sunday.
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So they hired
that special singer
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to come in on Sunday.
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And that was... And that was...
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I understand that was
really a great program.
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Yeah, they said it was packed.
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Pedro is
preaching down the road.
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A mile down the road.
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And he's got a
packed church. Yes.
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And he's got
people coming to Christ
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and the communist
official, he's up there.
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And he's got this
beautiful Cuban singer.
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And they're going to have
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the greatest
concert in the history
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of that part of the world.
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That's right.
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Unfortunately, they didn't
take into account the weather.
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No.
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Tell me about it too?
Tell me what happened?
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Well, it's started to get cloudy
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and it started to
rain pretty badly.
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I mean, we thought, oh, boy,
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this is gonna affect people
even coming to the church.
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And we didn't realize
just how bad the weather was.
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Did it affect people
coming into the church?
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I don't think so because
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there wasn't enough room anyhow.
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You can only have
it full, can't you?
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Yeah, I mean,
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they were outside and
they were at the windows,
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on the side so
they could listen.
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You know, I'm getting impatient,
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tell me what
happened up the road?
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So anyway we had no
clue what the weather,
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what's gonna happen,
whether it was gonna happen
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and all of a
sudden the wind started,
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the rain started
and it was a downpour,
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and Cuba is not
known for tornadoes.
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No.
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And there was a tornado
that actually took place.
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A tornado came through
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and you're not
gonna believe this,
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but it came through
right over the theater
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and the roof was
blown off this theater.
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Now, I'm just
restraining saying hallelujah.
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So I'm not gonna say
that. I know, I know...
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So tell me, what,
the roof got blown off.
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The roof got actually
blown off the theater.
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With the old communist
official sitting there.
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With a full house.
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Packed to the
doors. People just...
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The lights were gone,
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because all the lights
were gone in the whole city.
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So they're in darkness.
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So it's in darkness,
the tornado, the wind,
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and the rain.
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And the roof is
gone. The roof is gone.
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Chandeliers are
sort of just bursting.
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Did chandeliers came down? Yes.
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Yeah, that's, this is horrible.
And what else did they say?
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Yeah.
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Because of that it
caused such a stir,
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the people started
running out of the building.
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People were
starting to get robbed
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and there was a
couple of stabbings also,
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as people were
trying to leave the theater.
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And so us down the road,
we were only a mile away.
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The only thing
that happened to us
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is as Pedro was preaching,
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the power was completely
knocked out inside the church.
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But people
didn't get up to leave.
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Actually,
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people ended up taking
out their cell phone lights,
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using that to light up the stage
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and with no sound equipment,
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Pedro preached just
loudly using his voice.
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And people came to Christ.
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Oh! Yes indeed
after the program.
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By now it's 10:30,
almost 11 o'clock at night.
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And because it started
late, he did an altar call,
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and 53 people came
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and decided to give
their life to Jesus Christ.
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Now, praise God. Hallelujah.
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If you folks had been
up in the other hall...
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Exactly.
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What would have happened?
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The tornado would have blown
that roof off of the campaign.
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The chandeliers would
have come down on your heads.
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Exactly.
00:17:51.63\00:17:52.97
And it would have
been a packed house.
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And I understand
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robbers actually
came into the audience...
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Right, right.
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Started stabbing people.
00:17:58.47\00:17:59.81
Yeah, two people were
stabbed, Pedro told me.
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And our people were
safe down in the church?
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Nothing happened in our
church. And praising Jesus.
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Yes.
00:18:05.75\00:18:07.08
And being saved. Exactly.
00:18:07.12\00:18:08.75
And the people who
stopped the meetings...
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And that theater got
destroyed completely.
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This theater that they wouldn't
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let us use was totally
and completely destroyed.
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Yes, I mean,
00:18:20.93\00:18:22.26
we say praise God
that we weren't there.
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Yes, hallelujah.
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Even though we
were disappointed,
00:18:26.10\00:18:27.50
and we didn't understand
why God was allowing us
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to have to go somewhere else.
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Yes, yes.
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And, you know, it was
devastating for Pedro,
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but...
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Only temporarily.
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Looking back,
00:18:37.85\00:18:39.18
we're now thankful
that we didn't go there.
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It was a tremendous blessing.
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You Know, Susie and
Alan and my dear friends,
00:18:41.95\00:18:45.79
who are watching this telecast,
there's a text in the Bible,
00:18:45.82\00:18:49.69
Romans 8:28, you know the text.
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That's right.
00:18:52.99\00:18:54.33
Yes, for we know that
"God works on all things."
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Yeah. That's right.
00:18:56.63\00:18:57.97
Yeah, God works on all things
00:18:58.00\00:19:00.57
for the good of
those who would love Him.
00:19:00.60\00:19:03.34
You've been called
according to His, what?
00:19:03.37\00:19:05.31
You know the word. Purpose.
00:19:05.34\00:19:06.68
Yeah, God's got a purpose.
00:19:06.71\00:19:08.04
That's right. God had
a purpose to you folks.
00:19:08.08\00:19:10.05
God has got a
purpose for you, my friend.
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Yes, He's got a purpose for you.
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Right, and I think God
has His hand over His people.
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Yes, He does.
00:19:17.45\00:19:18.79
He keeps us safe and sometimes
00:19:18.82\00:19:20.16
we don't understand why
things happen the way they do.
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This cancellation turned
out to be a tremendous blessing.
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It sure did.
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This cancellation was
a part of God's purpose.
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Yes.
00:19:31.47\00:19:32.80
This disappointment was a
part of God's sovereign grace,
00:19:32.83\00:19:38.74
a part of His blessing.
00:19:38.77\00:19:40.61
He was protecting us the
entire time and thankfully,
00:19:40.64\00:19:43.41
He was able to grant us
perspective to look back
00:19:43.45\00:19:45.48
and notice that at that time.
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I'm just thinking,
if you'd been up there,
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you stay with this little church
00:19:50.49\00:19:52.55
and he is in this
place, just visualize it
00:19:52.59\00:19:55.59
and he's preaching,
the roof is going off,
00:19:55.62\00:19:58.69
the chandeliers
are crashing down
00:19:58.73\00:20:00.60
on the heads of the people,
00:20:00.63\00:20:02.60
and the lights are off,
00:20:02.63\00:20:04.80
and robbers
rushing in with knives,
00:20:04.83\00:20:08.00
that could have
been but for Romans 8:28.
00:20:08.04\00:20:11.61
Exactly, total chaos.
00:20:11.64\00:20:13.64
And God foresaw this.
00:20:13.68\00:20:15.34
Exactly, and thankfully He know.
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And He used the
communist leader.
00:20:17.38\00:20:18.98
Oh!
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Yeah the communist leader
was used in that, used by God.
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Used by God.
00:20:22.82\00:20:24.15
Yeah, pretty
amazing, it's amazing.
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We were none the wiser
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being in the other
church doing Pedro's campaign
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'cause we had no idea
about that until we got back.
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No, the wonderful thing
is this that all people,
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even including communist leaders
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are in the
hands of Almighty God.
00:20:39.23\00:20:41.17
That's right. That's right.
00:20:41.20\00:20:42.54
They may not believe in God,
00:20:42.57\00:20:43.94
they may not share
God or think of God,
00:20:43.97\00:20:47.51
but God is aware of that.
00:20:47.54\00:20:48.94
Yeah, they can't get
away from God, can they?
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No. No way, indeed.
00:20:50.85\00:20:52.18
It doesn't matter
who the leader is.
00:20:52.21\00:20:54.58
God is the
leader, God is in charge.
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Yes. Right.
00:20:56.35\00:20:58.55
Alan, tell me what
was Pedro's reaction?
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Initially he was devastated,
he had put so much work,
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months and months of work
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into putting this
campaign together,
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only to have it taken away
from him in the last moment.
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Yeah.
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And I just watched him
go from strength to strength
00:21:12.97\00:21:15.04
as he continued to pray
and rely on God for strength
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to get through
this circumstance.
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And because of that he
was able to put together
00:21:22.28\00:21:25.38
and take heed of all of these
moving parts for his campaign
00:21:25.41\00:21:29.82
and have a great,
powerful, successful campaign
00:21:29.85\00:21:33.05
in the midst of all
of this seeming tragedy.
00:21:33.09\00:21:36.32
And I'm sure, he
saw the hand of God.
00:21:36.36\00:21:39.09
He really did. Yeah.
00:21:39.13\00:21:40.46
It was a powerful
experience for him.
00:21:40.50\00:21:41.83
When man closes a door,
God always opens a window.
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Exactly.
00:21:45.60\00:21:47.44
We've seen some
tremendous defeats apparently,
00:21:47.47\00:21:54.34
awful defeats
where doors have closed.
00:21:54.38\00:21:58.55
And then we've seen
the mighty hand of God,
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as He has open a window
00:22:02.12\00:22:03.62
that has been much bigger
than the door that man closed.
00:22:03.65\00:22:06.15
That's right. That's right.
00:22:06.19\00:22:08.46
I just want to
say to the audience
00:22:08.49\00:22:10.76
watching today,
00:22:10.79\00:22:12.13
you should never
give up or be discouraged
00:22:12.16\00:22:16.67
when a door closes.
00:22:16.70\00:22:18.47
God closes the door so
He can open a better door.
00:22:18.50\00:22:24.54
God never takes anything away
from you that is really good,
00:22:24.57\00:22:28.78
unless He's got
something that's really better.
00:22:28.81\00:22:30.71
That's right. Exactly.
00:22:30.75\00:22:32.08
And I think this was a
pivotal moment for Pedro.
00:22:32.11\00:22:35.38
Oh, yes, he'll
never forget this.
00:22:35.42\00:22:37.52
In his work, this
has just given an impetus
00:22:37.55\00:22:39.85
for him to continue to do more
00:22:39.89\00:22:41.92
and to keep going in
spite of all the obstacles
00:22:41.96\00:22:44.03
that he faces on a daily basis.
00:22:44.06\00:22:46.09
And he's got...
He's got tons of those.
00:22:46.13\00:22:47.76
He sure does.
00:22:47.80\00:22:49.13
We're gonna talk a
little bit about his life
00:22:49.16\00:22:51.37
and the people in Cuba.
00:22:51.40\00:22:52.87
Why does Pedro do evangelism?
00:22:52.90\00:22:55.90
Because I'm told today,
00:22:55.94\00:22:57.34
we don't need to do evangelism
anymore, it doesn't count.
00:22:57.37\00:23:00.24
Why does he do evangelism?
00:23:00.28\00:23:01.74
I think it's
because he believes God,
00:23:01.78\00:23:03.28
he believes the Word
00:23:03.31\00:23:04.65
and he believes
that taking it out.
00:23:04.68\00:23:06.01
But what does
the Word say though?
00:23:06.05\00:23:07.38
Oh, to take out your...
00:23:07.42\00:23:08.75
To go out and preach
and teach the gospel.
00:23:08.78\00:23:10.12
Preach!
00:23:10.15\00:23:11.49
You see, I'm in
a part in the world
00:23:11.52\00:23:12.85
in Southern California,
00:23:12.89\00:23:14.22
where I'm told
over and over again,
00:23:14.26\00:23:15.99
you can't do evangelism.
00:23:16.02\00:23:17.36
It doesn't work,
it's not important.
00:23:17.39\00:23:19.73
That's crazy, that's crazy...
00:23:19.76\00:23:21.13
You think it's crazy.
00:23:21.16\00:23:22.50
We've seen it, we see it work,
00:23:22.53\00:23:24.40
we've seen how its transformed
lives around the world.
00:23:24.43\00:23:27.87
And what hope do people have,
00:23:27.90\00:23:29.24
what hope do people have in Cuba
00:23:29.27\00:23:30.91
without God's
Word and His promises?
00:23:30.94\00:23:32.91
Now, folks, I'm
going to do something here,
00:23:32.94\00:23:35.01
I'm going to turn
to a text in the Bible.
00:23:35.04\00:23:38.08
I'm going to turn
to a different text
00:23:38.11\00:23:40.42
than the text I said
I was going to turn to.
00:23:40.45\00:23:42.18
Okay. You see.
00:23:42.22\00:23:43.55
Yes. Can turn to Romans 1.
00:23:43.59\00:23:45.12
Okay.
00:23:45.15\00:23:46.49
Gonna look at verse 14,
and this is the Apostle Paul.
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Alan, you're doing
a degree in theology.
00:23:49.29\00:23:52.29
Yes.
00:23:52.33\00:23:53.66
But let me tell you something
00:23:53.70\00:23:55.03
that degree in
theology is worth nothing,
00:23:55.06\00:23:58.27
unless you have a commitment
to go into all the world
00:23:58.30\00:24:01.74
and preach the gospel.
00:24:01.77\00:24:03.10
Right. You know.
00:24:03.14\00:24:05.61
What good is a
degree if you don't use it
00:24:05.64\00:24:07.78
for the purpose
that is intended?
00:24:07.81\00:24:09.51
Absolutely.
00:24:09.54\00:24:11.08
Now, the greatest
theologian in the world
00:24:11.11\00:24:13.92
since Christ was
the Apostle Paul.
00:24:13.95\00:24:16.28
That's right.
00:24:16.32\00:24:17.65
That people, lot of people
don't realize this, my friend.
00:24:17.69\00:24:19.95
He was not an
armchair theologian.
00:24:19.99\00:24:21.89
Sure, he wasn't.
00:24:21.92\00:24:23.26
He was a preacher,
he was an evangelist.
00:24:23.29\00:24:26.63
And when you have
people tell you that
00:24:26.66\00:24:28.10
evangelism doesn't work,
00:24:28.13\00:24:29.56
and we shouldn't do it,
00:24:29.60\00:24:31.10
they're going against
the teachings of the Bible.
00:24:31.13\00:24:35.34
That's right.
They're fighting God.
00:24:35.37\00:24:38.91
Now, listen to this
text, Paul say, verse 14,
00:24:38.94\00:24:41.41
"I'm a debtor both to
Greeks and to barbarians,
00:24:41.44\00:24:45.28
both to wise and unwise."
00:24:45.31\00:24:47.88
He's a debtor
because he's been saved.
00:24:47.92\00:24:50.15
Yes.
00:24:50.19\00:24:51.52
Therefore he got to share.
00:24:51.55\00:24:53.89
He says,
00:24:53.92\00:24:55.26
"As much as is in me,
00:24:55.29\00:24:56.62
I am ready to
preach the gospel to you
00:24:56.66\00:24:58.73
who are in Rome also."
00:24:58.76\00:25:01.70
I'm a debtor. That's right.
00:25:01.73\00:25:03.33
I'm ready and then he says,
00:25:03.37\00:25:05.03
"I'm not ashamed of
the gospel of Christ,
00:25:05.07\00:25:07.47
for it is the
power of God to salvation
00:25:07.50\00:25:10.71
for everyone who believes."
00:25:10.74\00:25:13.07
Now, we believe it.
00:25:13.11\00:25:15.68
Yes.
00:25:15.71\00:25:17.05
You believe it? Definitely.
00:25:17.08\00:25:18.58
Listen, my
friend, Pedro believes it.
00:25:18.61\00:25:21.38
The question is,
do you believe it?
00:25:21.42\00:25:23.92
The Bible says
00:25:23.95\00:25:25.29
that gospel is the
power of God to salvation.
00:25:25.32\00:25:28.46
And if you go
into all the world,
00:25:28.49\00:25:30.43
and we've done this
00:25:30.46\00:25:31.79
and we have seen
the power of God.
00:25:31.83\00:25:33.19
We certainly have
00:25:33.23\00:25:35.00
and it's been
evident every single time,
00:25:35.03\00:25:37.87
it never fails.
00:25:37.90\00:25:39.23
So the people that
say it doesn't work,
00:25:39.27\00:25:41.74
it's because they've never
done it, and they've never...
00:25:41.77\00:25:43.30
And because they don't work.
00:25:43.34\00:25:44.67
Right, and they've
never experienced the power.
00:25:44.71\00:25:46.04
And because they
don't have faith.
00:25:46.07\00:25:47.41
Exactly.
00:25:47.44\00:25:48.78
And because they've
never seen the power of God.
00:25:48.81\00:25:50.15
That's right.
That's right, so...
00:25:50.18\00:25:51.65
Thank God, we have one Pedro.
00:25:51.68\00:25:55.58
Our man in
Havana. Our man in Havana.
00:25:55.62\00:25:58.55
That's right.
00:25:58.59\00:25:59.92
Who was not been
taken in by these lies.
00:25:59.95\00:26:01.59
No.
00:26:01.62\00:26:02.96
And who believes the
gospel is still the power.
00:26:02.99\00:26:04.66
Yes.
00:26:04.69\00:26:06.19
And when the roof blew
off, Pedro was not there.
00:26:06.23\00:26:11.50
He was preaching the
gospel, and saving souls.
00:26:11.53\00:26:14.84
Amen.
00:26:14.87\00:26:16.20
And we have more
tremendous stories
00:26:16.24\00:26:19.24
to share with you
from the land of Cuba,
00:26:19.27\00:26:22.41
this communist bastion.
00:26:22.44\00:26:25.45
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