Welcome back, glad to see you. 00:00:13.48\00:00:15.24 Let's get started. 00:00:15.28\00:00:17.05 The topic is Shall We Return to Rome? 00:00:17.08\00:00:20.22 And this is part 4 in the series. 00:00:20.25\00:00:22.48 Millions of voices are now urging 00:00:22.52\00:00:25.59 a rapid return to Rome millions of Protestants. 00:00:25.62\00:00:29.02 This is made urgent by deteriorating world conditions, 00:00:29.06\00:00:32.46 example, increasing natural disasters, 00:00:32.49\00:00:36.13 increasing terrorism and violence, 00:00:36.16\00:00:39.43 increasing the increasing risk of nuclear war 00:00:39.47\00:00:43.04 with crazy nations, and collapsing moral standards. 00:00:43.07\00:00:48.31 The cry is heard across America, 00:00:48.34\00:00:50.61 around Australia and Europe. 00:00:50.65\00:00:52.91 We need a father, we need a shepherd to lead us, 00:00:52.95\00:00:57.22 that leader is the Holy Father, the Pope of Rome. 00:00:57.25\00:01:02.19 Now, let it be made very plain, 00:01:02.22\00:01:03.89 there are many good things 00:01:03.93\00:01:06.03 I like about the Pope and the Catholic Church. 00:01:06.06\00:01:10.23 I like, I got to confess this, confession is good for soul. 00:01:10.27\00:01:15.87 The grand ceremonies I like ceremony, 00:01:15.90\00:01:20.38 I like it when they have the coronation in 00:01:20.41\00:01:22.64 or a wedding in Westminster Abbey 00:01:22.68\00:01:25.08 that sort of chokes me up. 00:01:25.11\00:01:26.85 The grand ceremonies, 00:01:26.88\00:01:28.55 the pomp and the display have a strong appeal. 00:01:28.58\00:01:32.82 And Pope Francis God bless him, is a pastor, 00:01:32.85\00:01:37.69 not another church bureaucrat, I like that. 00:01:37.73\00:01:41.66 and so today when we're talking about 00:01:41.70\00:01:44.23 what we like and what we don't like 00:01:44.27\00:01:46.13 let it be made very plain, 00:01:46.17\00:01:47.80 we're not criticizing people, 00:01:47.84\00:01:50.71 because there are good and bad people 00:01:50.74\00:01:52.67 in every church including my own church, 00:01:52.71\00:01:56.34 good and bad people, sheep and goats. 00:01:56.38\00:02:00.22 But we're talking about system 00:02:00.25\00:02:01.58 that I believe rests upon a man made foundation. 00:02:01.62\00:02:04.35 Today we're comparing the teachings 00:02:04.39\00:02:06.35 of the Roman church with the Bible. 00:02:06.39\00:02:09.62 And no offences meant to any sincere 00:02:09.66\00:02:11.99 good Roman Catholic, like my relatives. 00:02:12.03\00:02:18.63 This is essential 00:02:18.67\00:02:20.17 when many Protestants are thinking of returning to Rome. 00:02:20.20\00:02:24.07 They see no differences, 00:02:24.11\00:02:26.61 we need to look below the surface. 00:02:26.64\00:02:29.54 There we come to Doctrine chapter 9 in the series, 00:02:29.58\00:02:32.81 Baptism and the New Birth, why? 00:02:32.85\00:02:38.15 Because Rome invented infant baptism. 00:02:38.19\00:02:42.59 My Roman Catholic relatives wanted me 00:02:42.62\00:02:45.23 as a baby to be baptized by the priest, 00:02:45.26\00:02:49.30 they wanted me to become a Roman Catholic priest. 00:02:49.33\00:02:55.07 That's another story. 00:02:55.10\00:02:57.14 I was later baptized as a young man. 00:02:57.17\00:03:00.11 The Bible teaches the baptism of those 00:03:00.14\00:03:03.38 who are old enough to intelligently 00:03:03.41\00:03:06.72 and willingly accept Christ. 00:03:06.75\00:03:09.38 Now take your Bible and come over here 00:03:09.42\00:03:10.85 to Matthew 3 and verses onwards, 00:03:10.89\00:03:13.36 now we got a little bit here in this chapter, 00:03:13.39\00:03:15.72 read Matthew 3:1 and onwards, 00:03:15.76\00:03:18.19 "In those days 00:03:18.23\00:03:19.63 John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea, 00:03:19.66\00:03:23.47 and saying, 00:03:23.50\00:03:24.83 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!" 00:03:24.87\00:03:27.14 For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah." 00:03:27.17\00:03:31.81 Verse 5 and 6, "Then Jerusalem, all Judea, 00:03:31.84\00:03:35.44 and all the region around the Jordan 00:03:35.48\00:03:37.15 went out to him and were baptized by him", 00:03:37.18\00:03:40.15 what does it say? 00:03:40.18\00:03:41.52 "In the Jordan, confessing their sins." 00:03:41.55\00:03:44.95 Baptized in the river. 00:03:44.99\00:03:47.22 And then verses 13 and onwards, 00:03:47.26\00:03:49.36 "Then Jesus came from Galilee to John 00:03:49.39\00:03:51.33 at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 00:03:51.36\00:03:53.26 But John tried to prevent him, saying, 00:03:53.29\00:03:56.36 "I need to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?" 00:03:56.40\00:04:00.37 But Jesus answered and said to him, 00:04:00.40\00:04:01.94 "Permit it to be so now, 00:04:01.97\00:04:03.30 for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." 00:04:03.34\00:04:06.84 Then he allowed him. 00:04:06.88\00:04:08.41 When he had been baptized, 00:04:08.44\00:04:09.78 Jesus came up immediately from the water and behold, 00:04:09.81\00:04:12.35 the heavens were opened to him, 00:04:12.38\00:04:13.95 and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove 00:04:13.98\00:04:16.48 and a lighting upon him. 00:04:16.52\00:04:18.05 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, 00:04:18.09\00:04:20.42 "This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased." 00:04:20.46\00:04:27.26 " Jesus is our Lord, our savior, 00:04:27.30\00:04:32.83 and was baptized as an adult, in the river Jordan. 00:04:32.87\00:04:39.67 And he was baptized not by sprinkling. 00:04:39.71\00:04:44.31 He was baptized by immersion. 00:04:44.35\00:04:47.92 Come over here to John 3:23, 00:04:47.95\00:04:51.79 John 3 it says, 00:04:51.82\00:04:53.86 and John that's "John the Baptist, 00:04:53.89\00:04:55.66 also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, 00:04:55.69\00:04:58.96 because there was much water there. 00:04:58.99\00:05:02.56 And they came and were baptized." 00:05:02.60\00:05:05.20 If John the Baptists had been sprinkling babies 00:05:05.23\00:05:07.70 he would have needed a cup of water. 00:05:07.74\00:05:10.81 But he was baptizing people by the thousands, 00:05:10.84\00:05:14.31 and I've had the privilege of doing this 00:05:14.34\00:05:15.88 and he was doing it in a river. 00:05:15.91\00:05:19.88 So baptism is only true really my friend, 00:05:19.91\00:05:24.32 when it's done with people who know what they're doing 00:05:24.35\00:05:27.29 and they're totally immersed. 00:05:27.32\00:05:29.16 Baptism is a sign of being born again. 00:05:29.19\00:05:32.73 You say, "What on earth is that?" 00:05:32.76\00:05:34.66 Well, come over here to John 3: 3-7, John 3, 00:05:34.70\00:05:39.43 "Jesus answered and said to Nicodemus, 00:05:39.47\00:05:41.97 "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, 00:05:42.00\00:05:45.57 he cannot see the kingdom of God." 00:05:45.61\00:05:47.14 Nicodemus said to Him, 00:05:47.18\00:05:49.11 "How can a man be born when he is old? 00:05:49.14\00:05:52.45 Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb 00:05:52.48\00:05:54.92 and be born?" 00:05:54.95\00:05:56.28 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, 00:05:56.32\00:06:00.72 unless one is born of water and the spirit, 00:06:00.76\00:06:05.16 he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 00:06:05.19\00:06:07.36 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, 00:06:07.40\00:06:10.00 and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. 00:06:10.03\00:06:12.53 Do not marvel that I say this to you, 00:06:12.57\00:06:15.47 'You must be born again.' 00:06:15.50\00:06:18.47 " Now Jesus said that this baptism in the river, 00:06:18.51\00:06:22.78 this baptism with water is a symbol 00:06:22.81\00:06:26.58 of something a lot bigger. 00:06:26.61\00:06:29.72 Something more profound it is being born again. 00:06:29.75\00:06:34.02 And this is when God gives people new spiritual life 00:06:34.06\00:06:40.00 that doesn't happen when you're a baby. 00:06:40.03\00:06:42.90 It happens when a person comes 00:06:42.93\00:06:45.83 as a penitent sinner to Christ. 00:06:45.87\00:06:48.54 Come over here to John 1: 11-13, 00:06:48.57\00:06:52.27 John 1: 11-13, 00:06:52.31\00:06:56.91 John 1: 11-13, the Bible says, 00:06:56.95\00:07:01.02 "He came to his own, 00:07:01.05\00:07:03.28 and his own did not receive him. 00:07:03.32\00:07:04.92 But as many as received him, 00:07:04.95\00:07:06.89 to them he gave the right to become children of God, 00:07:06.92\00:07:10.96 to those who believe in his name, 00:07:10.99\00:07:12.86 who were born, not of blood, 00:07:12.89\00:07:14.86 nor of the will of the flesh, 00:07:14.90\00:07:16.36 nor of the will of man, but of God." 00:07:16.40\00:07:19.53 The Bible says when I come to Christ in true faith, 00:07:19.57\00:07:24.84 I am born again 00:07:24.87\00:07:27.61 and baptism by total immersion is the symbol 00:07:27.64\00:07:33.82 of coming to Christ and being born again. 00:07:33.85\00:07:37.35 Listen carefully 00:07:37.39\00:07:41.16 when I was boy, 00:07:41.19\00:07:43.43 I attended a meeting at Avondale 00:07:43.46\00:07:45.59 I heard preacher, 00:07:45.63\00:07:47.06 an English preacher speak on that God filled a blank 00:07:47.10\00:07:50.97 after so many years. 00:07:51.00\00:07:52.83 I can see him, hear the sermon. 00:07:52.87\00:07:56.07 He said, "Is a boy here and he's got a blank, 00:07:56.10\00:07:59.44 he's got an emptiness in his soul." 00:07:59.47\00:08:04.01 I thought of myself, how does he know? 00:08:04.05\00:08:06.38 It's me. 00:08:06.41\00:08:08.88 We've all got emptiness in our souls, 00:08:08.92\00:08:11.65 only God can fill the emptiness, you see. 00:08:11.69\00:08:16.69 When I come to Christ in true faith 00:08:16.73\00:08:19.73 he fills the emptiness and I become a new person 00:08:19.76\00:08:26.03 and this is called in the Bible the new birth. 00:08:26.07\00:08:28.97 Listen to this, 00:08:29.00\00:08:30.34 the Roman Catholic Church like some Protestant churches. 00:08:30.37\00:08:35.64 The Roman Catholic Church 00:08:35.68\00:08:37.11 emphasizes union with the church. 00:08:37.15\00:08:42.25 Protestantism emphasizes union with Christ, 00:08:42.28\00:08:46.69 and a personal relationship with Christ. 00:08:46.72\00:08:50.69 You see, you can be united to the church, 00:08:50.73\00:08:53.53 you can be a part of the church, 00:08:53.56\00:08:55.86 but unless you are in Christ, and unless Christ is in you, 00:08:55.90\00:09:01.50 you won't see the kingdom of God. 00:09:01.54\00:09:03.44 That's what Jesus said, so you got be born again. 00:09:03.47\00:09:06.61 Jesus said, you're not gonna see the kingdom of God 00:09:06.64\00:09:10.25 that's true with the Pope and all the priests 00:09:10.28\00:09:12.21 and everybody else, 00:09:12.25\00:09:13.58 that's true with you and me, Jesus said, 00:09:13.62\00:09:15.98 "You've got to be born again." 00:09:16.02\00:09:19.69 Now, number 10 00:09:19.72\00:09:23.06 this is more than a doctrine this is a summary of ideas. 00:09:23.09\00:09:26.43 Number 10 the battle cry, 00:09:26.46\00:09:29.10 the Protestant reformers against the papacy. 00:09:29.13\00:09:34.00 This is very heart and soul of it. 00:09:34.04\00:09:36.64 Number one, Sola Christus, 00:09:36.67\00:09:39.77 it's only Christ. 00:09:39.81\00:09:41.71 John 14:6, Jesus said, 00:09:41.74\00:09:44.61 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. 00:09:44.65\00:09:46.88 No one comes to the Father except through me." 00:09:46.92\00:09:50.29 You don't come to the father through the Pope or a priest, 00:09:50.32\00:09:54.59 you come through Christ, 00:09:54.62\00:09:56.69 because he is the only way we believe in Sola Christus. 00:09:56.73\00:10:03.20 Sola Scriptura only Scripture. 00:10:03.23\00:10:08.70 The Bible is not judged by the church, 00:10:08.74\00:10:10.97 the church is judged by the Bible. 00:10:11.01\00:10:14.11 Look at 2 Timothy 3:15 to 17 00:10:14.14\00:10:16.64 and that includes my church and every other church, 00:10:16.68\00:10:21.32 "And that from childhood 00:10:21.35\00:10:22.68 you have known the Holy Scriptures, 00:10:22.72\00:10:24.22 which are able to make you wise for salvation 00:10:24.25\00:10:26.96 through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 00:10:26.99\00:10:29.19 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, 00:10:29.22\00:10:34.16 and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, 00:10:34.20\00:10:37.83 for correction, 00:10:37.87\00:10:39.20 for instruction in righteousness, 00:10:39.23\00:10:41.34 that the man of God may be complete, 00:10:41.37\00:10:45.44 thoroughly equipped for every good work." 00:10:45.47\00:10:49.11 And doctrines do not come from the church, 00:10:49.14\00:10:51.98 and doctrines come from Holy Scripture. 00:10:52.01\00:10:57.62 Our authority is not the voice of the church, 00:10:57.65\00:11:00.99 my authority is not the voice of my church. 00:11:01.02\00:11:04.96 The authority of the church is the word of God. 00:11:04.99\00:11:09.26 Not the voice of the church fathers, 00:11:09.30\00:11:11.70 not the voice of tradition, 00:11:11.73\00:11:14.50 but the voice of God speaking through his word. 00:11:14.54\00:11:18.21 Sola Christus, 00:11:18.24\00:11:19.91 Sola's not all Protestants believe this, 00:11:19.94\00:11:22.84 because in their own hearts they've got more Catholicism 00:11:22.88\00:11:26.72 than they have the teachings of Luther. 00:11:26.75\00:11:29.18 Sola Christus, Sola Scriptura, number three, 00:11:29.22\00:11:32.32 Sola Gratia only grace. 00:11:32.35\00:11:35.12 Ephesians 2:8 and 9, 00:11:35.16\00:11:38.49 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, 00:11:38.53\00:11:43.00 and that not of yourselves, 00:11:43.03\00:11:44.97 it is the gift of God, not of works, 00:11:45.00\00:11:48.70 lest anyone should boast." 00:11:48.74\00:11:50.41 We're not saved by our human merit all 00:11:50.44\00:11:53.98 because we are good enough 00:11:54.01\00:11:55.88 we are saved by the mercy and the grace of God. 00:11:55.91\00:12:00.75 And then number four Soal Fide, 00:12:00.78\00:12:03.72 that means only Faith, 00:12:03.75\00:12:06.25 not faith in works, Sola Fide. 00:12:06.29\00:12:10.69 Romans 1:17, 00:12:10.73\00:12:15.36 "For in it the righteousness of God is revealed 00:12:15.40\00:12:19.53 from faith to faith, as it is written, 00:12:19.57\00:12:23.61 "The just shall live by faith." 00:12:23.64\00:12:26.24 " I am not saved by faith 00:12:26.27\00:12:28.94 and works I am saved by a faith that works. 00:12:28.98\00:12:34.18 And there's a clear distinction nothing in my hand, 00:12:34.22\00:12:38.42 I bring simply to thy cross I cling. 00:12:38.45\00:12:43.63 Sola Christus, Sola Scriptura, 00:12:43.66\00:12:45.56 Sola Gratia, and Sola Fide. 00:12:45.59\00:12:48.43 Doctrine number 11, 00:12:48.46\00:12:52.07 and now we deal with a doctrine 00:12:52.10\00:12:56.91 which is overwhelming in importance. 00:12:56.94\00:12:59.17 The intercession of the saints and prayers for the dead. 00:12:59.21\00:13:05.08 The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the saints Mary, 00:13:05.11\00:13:09.52 Peter, James and John, 00:13:09.55\00:13:11.92 and more recently 00:13:11.95\00:13:13.39 mother Theresa can intercede for us 00:13:13.42\00:13:16.32 and we can pray to them 00:13:16.36\00:13:17.99 and they have a great power with God. 00:13:18.03\00:13:22.90 But listen 00:13:22.93\00:13:26.20 the Bible teaches that the dead are sleeping. 00:13:26.23\00:13:31.17 I want you to see this John 11: 11-14, 00:13:31.21\00:13:35.58 the words of Christ, 00:13:35.61\00:13:37.45 "These things he said, and after that he said to them, 00:13:37.48\00:13:40.32 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps, 00:13:40.35\00:13:42.62 but I go that I may wake him up." 00:13:42.65\00:13:45.09 Then his disciples said, 00:13:45.12\00:13:46.52 "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well." 00:13:46.55\00:13:48.69 However, Jesus spoke of his death, 00:13:48.72\00:13:52.36 but they thought that he was speaking 00:13:52.39\00:13:53.83 about taking rest in sleep. 00:13:53.86\00:13:55.93 Then Jesus said to them plainly, 00:13:55.96\00:13:58.53 "Lazarus is dead." 00:13:58.57\00:14:01.44 Contrary to the views expressed 00:14:01.47\00:14:04.27 by a thousand theologians, 00:14:04.31\00:14:06.57 the Bible teaches that death is a sleep. 00:14:06.61\00:14:11.15 Therefore the Blessed Virgin Mary, 00:14:11.18\00:14:13.05 and Saint Peter, 00:14:13.08\00:14:14.42 and Saint Paul are not interceding, 00:14:14.45\00:14:17.39 they're sleeping and waiting the resurrection. 00:14:17.42\00:14:20.96 John 5:28 and 29, 00:14:20.99\00:14:23.53 you can see the great significance of this. 00:14:23.56\00:14:26.29 "Do not marvel at this for the hour is coming in 00:14:26.33\00:14:28.46 which all who are in the graves will hear," 00:14:28.50\00:14:31.00 Well, He didn't say all those who are in purgatory and hell. 00:14:31.03\00:14:34.44 "Will here his voice and come forth 00:14:34.47\00:14:36.40 those who have done good, 00:14:36.44\00:14:38.04 to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, 00:14:38.07\00:14:40.98 to the resurrection of condemnation or damnation." 00:14:41.01\00:14:43.88 The Bible teaches that 00:14:43.91\00:14:45.51 the saints are sleeping in the grave, 00:14:45.55\00:14:48.88 are awaiting the life call of Christ. 00:14:48.92\00:14:53.22 Now come over here to 1 Corinthians 15:3-6, 00:14:53.25\00:14:56.19 1 Corinthians 15 00:14:56.22\00:14:57.96 and you can see we use Sola Scriptura. 00:14:57.99\00:15:02.93 And some people when they hear this rejoice, 00:15:02.96\00:15:06.40 others get angry, 00:15:06.43\00:15:09.37 because I wish to hold on to old traditions 00:15:09.40\00:15:13.07 which in the end will damn their souls. 00:15:13.11\00:15:15.34 1 Corinthians 15:3-6, 00:15:15.38\00:15:18.55 "For I delivered to you first of all 00:15:18.58\00:15:20.45 that which I received, that Christ died for our sins 00:15:20.48\00:15:24.32 according to the Scriptures, 00:15:24.35\00:15:26.89 and that he was buried, 00:15:26.92\00:15:28.26 and that he rose again the third day 00:15:28.29\00:15:29.89 according to the Scriptures, 00:15:29.92\00:15:31.66 and that he was seen by Cephas, 00:15:31.69\00:15:33.56 then by the twelve. 00:15:33.60\00:15:34.93 After that he was seen by over 500 brethren at once, 00:15:34.96\00:15:38.77 of whom the greater part remain to the present, 00:15:38.80\00:15:41.67 but some have fallen asleep." 00:15:41.70\00:15:44.97 So the Bible says, 00:15:45.01\00:15:46.54 that some of the saints back in those days 00:15:46.57\00:15:49.44 had already died they had fallen asleep. 00:15:49.48\00:15:53.05 And listen very carefully, 00:15:53.08\00:15:55.92 therefore there are no people in hell, 00:15:55.95\00:16:01.09 no people in purgatory and no people in heaven. 00:16:01.12\00:16:06.56 The dead is sleeping 00:16:06.59\00:16:08.00 awaiting the resurrection of the righteous 00:16:08.03\00:16:10.77 or the damned. 00:16:10.80\00:16:12.13 Everybody is going to be raised. 00:16:12.17\00:16:14.40 The idea that the saints can help us is a great deception, 00:16:14.44\00:16:18.17 thus the true church is built upon the living Christ, 00:16:18.21\00:16:24.78 not upon a dead man. 00:16:24.81\00:16:29.55 Now when the great Catholic Church, 00:16:29.58\00:16:31.65 that we love and respect 00:16:31.69\00:16:33.02 when it says our church is built upon Peter 00:16:33.05\00:16:37.03 they've disqualified themselves 00:16:37.06\00:16:39.33 from being the spouse of Christ. 00:16:39.36\00:16:41.83 Because a dead church is built upon a dead man, 00:16:46.00\00:16:51.21 but the living church is built upon a living Christ 00:16:51.24\00:16:57.45 and Christ is my savior, Christ is my redeemer, 00:16:57.48\00:17:01.28 Christ is my deliverer, 00:17:01.32\00:17:03.35 and Christ is going to resurrect me 00:17:03.39\00:17:05.39 one day from the grave. 00:17:05.42\00:17:08.26 It is vain to pray for the dead, 00:17:08.29\00:17:12.06 because the dead are no longer in a state 00:17:12.09\00:17:16.30 where they can be saved. 00:17:16.33\00:17:18.00 If you want to be saved, you get, 00:17:18.03\00:17:20.40 better get saved while you still can breathe, 00:17:20.44\00:17:24.47 because once you've died, 00:17:24.51\00:17:26.54 your fate is sealed for time and eternity. 00:17:26.57\00:17:32.48 I had an old man come to me once, 00:17:32.51\00:17:36.38 came to my meetings, 00:17:36.42\00:17:37.85 invited me to his home they called him Pops. 00:17:37.89\00:17:41.66 Met his wife later on met his children. 00:17:41.69\00:17:44.09 All this was in the little town of parks on the outer Barcoo 00:17:44.13\00:17:48.50 where the churches are few in Australia. 00:17:48.53\00:17:52.70 Pops died, they asked me to burry him. 00:17:52.73\00:17:57.04 I said, yes, it's my sad privilege. 00:17:57.07\00:18:00.91 The family members came to me 00:18:00.94\00:18:03.41 with ones of pound notes. 00:18:03.45\00:18:08.98 Thousands of pounds take this. 00:18:09.02\00:18:11.59 We want you to pray for Pops to get him out of purgatory. 00:18:11.62\00:18:16.32 I said, no, you're not talking to a Catholic priest. 00:18:16.36\00:18:20.26 Pops is safe in the arms of God 00:18:20.30\00:18:23.00 because he died with his faith in Christ 00:18:23.03\00:18:25.43 and he's going to be raised in the resurrection, 00:18:25.47\00:18:28.47 this idea of praying for the dead 00:18:28.50\00:18:30.97 and charging people is the abomination of desolation. 00:18:31.01\00:18:36.11 Most ungodly most wicked, 00:18:36.14\00:18:41.28 worse than Wall Street. 00:18:41.32\00:18:43.59 That's saying something. 00:18:43.62\00:18:46.59 Now number 12 00:18:46.62\00:18:49.96 the voice of prophecy. 00:18:49.99\00:18:52.96 Come over here to Daniel 7, 00:18:52.99\00:18:55.26 the voice of prophecy. 00:18:55.30\00:18:58.10 We're not referring 00:18:58.13\00:18:59.47 to the great radio program either. 00:18:59.50\00:19:01.50 Daniel 7:7, this is a prophecy 00:19:01.54\00:19:06.54 you can get one of my tapes on this and see it. 00:19:06.57\00:19:08.88 "After this I saw in the night visions, 00:19:08.91\00:19:10.55 and behold, a fourth beast, 00:19:10.58\00:19:11.98 dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. 00:19:12.01\00:19:14.12 It had huge iron teeth; 00:19:14.15\00:19:15.72 it was devouring, breaking in pieces, 00:19:15.75\00:19:17.75 and trampling the residue with its feet. 00:19:17.79\00:19:19.45 It was different from all the beasts 00:19:19.49\00:19:21.16 that were before it, and it had ten horns." 00:19:21.19\00:19:24.36 Verse 8, "I consider the horns, and there was another horn, 00:19:24.39\00:19:27.33 a little one, coming up among them, 00:19:27.36\00:19:29.10 before three of the first horns 00:19:29.13\00:19:31.67 were plucked out by the roots. 00:19:31.70\00:19:33.34 And there, in this horn, 00:19:33.37\00:19:34.70 were eyes like the eyes of a man, 00:19:34.74\00:19:36.34 and a mouth speaking pompous words." 00:19:36.37\00:19:38.77 This is the antichrist that is conceited 00:19:38.81\00:19:42.28 by Catholics and Protestants. 00:19:42.31\00:19:44.81 Look at verse 24 and 25, 00:19:44.85\00:19:48.38 "The ten horns are ten kings 00:19:48.42\00:19:50.12 who shall arise from this kingdom. 00:19:50.15\00:19:51.85 And another shall rise after them, 00:19:51.89\00:19:53.79 He shall be different from the first ones, 00:19:53.82\00:19:55.89 and shall subdue three kings. 00:19:55.92\00:19:57.79 He shall speak pompous words against the most high, 00:19:57.83\00:20:01.80 shall persecute the saints of the most high, 00:20:01.83\00:20:04.83 and shall intend to change times and laws. 00:20:04.87\00:20:07.47 Then the saints shall be given into his hand 00:20:07.50\00:20:09.64 for a time and times and half a time." 00:20:09.67\00:20:12.51 And we cannot go into that. 00:20:12.54\00:20:14.68 Except to say that the dragon beast, 00:20:14.71\00:20:18.41 every commentator agrees, Roman Catholics, Jews, 00:20:18.45\00:20:21.55 everybody Protestant, 00:20:21.58\00:20:23.08 that is pagan Rome. 00:20:23.12\00:20:24.62 And the ten horns are symbolic 00:20:24.65\00:20:28.12 of the breakup of the Roman Empire into the kingdoms 00:20:28.16\00:20:31.66 and the states of Europe. 00:20:31.69\00:20:33.73 And the antichrist arises upon the ruins 00:20:33.76\00:20:39.83 of the Roman Empire in Europe. 00:20:39.87\00:20:42.50 Now who is he? 00:20:46.31\00:20:48.54 Now most people 00:20:48.58\00:20:50.88 know nothing about this subject. 00:20:50.91\00:20:55.72 We've had some of the biggest audiences in the world, 00:20:55.75\00:20:58.95 hear these great topics. 00:20:58.99\00:21:02.06 More recently in the biggest stadium 00:21:02.09\00:21:05.03 in Latin America, 00:21:05.06\00:21:06.43 when I spoke on this subject. 00:21:06.46\00:21:08.93 Now I'll read to you the great church leaders, 00:21:08.96\00:21:11.17 Thomas Cranmer Archbishop of Canterbury, England. 00:21:11.20\00:21:15.07 He said, "As for the Pope, 00:21:15.10\00:21:17.94 I refuse him as Christ's enemy and Antichrist." 00:21:17.97\00:21:22.58 He wrote the book of Come and Pray. 00:21:22.61\00:21:25.71 See also the preference of the King James Version 00:21:25.75\00:21:28.72 where the papacy is called the man of sin. 00:21:28.75\00:21:31.95 John Knox who raised up the Presbyterian judge said, 00:21:31.99\00:21:35.16 "Yeah, we doubt not to prove the kingdom of the Pope 00:21:35.19\00:21:37.79 to be the kingdom and power Antichrist." 00:21:37.83\00:21:40.50 John Wesley in his book, 00:21:40.53\00:21:42.03 Antichrist and his Ten Kingdoms, 00:21:42.06\00:21:44.10 "The Pope is in an emphatic sense the Man of Sin." 00:21:44.13\00:21:49.14 Charles Spurgeon the greatest preachers since Paul, some say. 00:21:49.17\00:21:55.18 "Then the world changed its tactics, 00:21:55.21\00:21:58.55 it became nominally Christian, 00:21:58.58\00:22:01.98 and Antichrist came forth in all its blasphemous glory. 00:22:02.02\00:22:06.89 The Pope of Rome put on the triple crown, 00:22:06.92\00:22:08.99 and called himself the Vicar of Christ. 00:22:09.02\00:22:12.26 Then came in the abomination of the worship of saints, 00:22:12.29\00:22:15.13 angels, images, and pictures, 00:22:15.16\00:22:16.83 then came the mass, and I know not what, 00:22:16.87\00:22:20.00 of detestable error." 00:22:20.04\00:22:25.01 Ellen White the Adventist prophet said this, 00:22:25.04\00:22:29.88 "The papacy is just what prophecy 00:22:29.91\00:22:31.71 declared that she would be, 00:22:31.75\00:22:33.15 the apostasy of the latter times... 00:22:33.18\00:22:36.05 it is prepared for two classes of mankind, 00:22:36.08\00:22:38.75 embracing nearly the whole world 00:22:38.79\00:22:40.66 those who would be saved by their merits, 00:22:40.69\00:22:42.96 and those who would be saved in their sins. 00:22:42.99\00:22:46.73 God's word has given warning of the impending danger, 00:22:46.76\00:22:49.83 let this be unheeded, 00:22:49.86\00:22:51.50 and the Protestant world will learn 00:22:51.53\00:22:53.70 what the purposes of Rome really are, 00:22:53.74\00:22:57.41 only when it is too late to escape the snare. 00:22:57.44\00:23:00.81 She is silently growing in power 00:23:00.84\00:23:04.35 she is piling up her lofty 00:23:04.38\00:23:06.45 and massive structures in the secret recesses 00:23:06.48\00:23:10.75 of which her former persecutions will be repeated." 00:23:10.79\00:23:17.53 Now the question is concerning 00:23:17.56\00:23:19.26 Ellen White and this statement, was she wrong? 00:23:19.29\00:23:25.07 Some would like to think she was wrong, 00:23:25.10\00:23:27.80 because of political correctness 00:23:27.84\00:23:30.21 where today we're not allowed to preach the truth. 00:23:30.24\00:23:35.44 And was she wrong? 00:23:35.48\00:23:37.41 She reflected the thinking of Protestant Bible scholars, 00:23:37.45\00:23:41.78 she was not politically correct. 00:23:41.82\00:23:45.35 She also said that 00:23:45.39\00:23:46.72 the majority of God's true children 00:23:46.76\00:23:48.66 were found in churches beyond her own. 00:23:48.69\00:23:52.56 Especially the Catholic Church 00:23:52.59\00:23:54.66 and she said God was going to bring them out. 00:23:54.70\00:23:57.60 She loved Catholics as we do, 00:23:57.63\00:24:00.10 but was opposed to the papal system. 00:24:00.14\00:24:04.94 Now we come to a conclusion and a resolution, 00:24:08.14\00:24:14.75 therefore 00:24:14.78\00:24:18.12 we will love our Catholic brothers and sisters. 00:24:18.15\00:24:22.96 There'll be no hate speech, and no bigotry. 00:24:22.99\00:24:27.73 We will seek their personal friendship. 00:24:27.76\00:24:32.80 We will do all in our power to help them. 00:24:32.83\00:24:37.87 We will share Christ and God's word with them, 00:24:37.91\00:24:41.71 and we will share with them the true gospel of Christ. 00:24:41.74\00:24:46.25 But we will not return to Rome 00:24:46.28\00:24:52.45 until Rome returns to Christ, 00:24:52.49\00:24:55.96 and the holy Bible, 00:24:55.99\00:24:58.29 amen, amen, amen. 00:24:58.33\00:25:02.96 And there was a great Roman Catholic scholar, 00:25:03.00\00:25:05.07 his name was John Huss who lived in Bohemia. 00:25:05.10\00:25:10.01 And John Huss because of his faith 00:25:10.04\00:25:12.41 was burnt by the Church of Rome at the stake, 00:25:12.44\00:25:15.24 they brunt in their history 00:25:15.28\00:25:17.25 hundreds of thousands even millions, 00:25:17.28\00:25:19.78 of Roman Catholics, Protestants, and Jews. 00:25:19.81\00:25:23.08 Go and get your encyclopedia, 00:25:23.12\00:25:27.96 they burnt him at the stake 00:25:27.99\00:25:29.32 but before they burn him at the stake, 00:25:29.36\00:25:31.69 John Huss sent back this message 00:25:31.73\00:25:34.76 to the Bohemian Protestants. 00:25:34.80\00:25:38.47 All Roman Catholics are standing up for God, 00:25:38.50\00:25:43.20 he said believe the truth, 00:25:43.24\00:25:48.24 love the truth, live the truth, 00:25:48.28\00:25:53.25 therefore I say to the television audience 00:25:53.28\00:25:55.75 and to you, 00:25:55.78\00:25:57.65 believe the truth, 00:25:57.69\00:26:00.16 love the truth, live the truth, 00:26:00.19\00:26:04.46 so help us God. 00:26:04.49\00:26:07.63 Amen. 00:26:07.66\00:26:09.13 We should never say something is impossible 00:26:15.70\00:26:18.67 because Jesus said, 00:26:18.71\00:26:20.51 with God all things are possible. 00:26:20.54\00:26:23.71 It seems impossible to think that a group of Americans 00:26:23.75\00:26:28.38 and Australians could come here to Castro's communist Cuba 00:26:28.42\00:26:33.09 and preach the gospel. 00:26:33.12\00:26:35.69 We're here with the permission of the Cuban Government. 00:26:35.72\00:26:38.56 We've got special visas so we can preach here. 00:26:38.59\00:26:43.10 I've had the privilege 00:26:43.13\00:26:44.47 of preaching in the most difficult places, 00:26:44.50\00:26:46.57 Moscow all across Russia, all around Ukraine, 00:26:46.60\00:26:50.77 dangerous places in Africa, 00:26:50.81\00:26:53.17 but this is one of the biggest miracles of all, 00:26:53.21\00:26:56.31 here we are, 00:26:56.34\00:26:57.68 the Carter Report team, just a little team. 00:26:57.71\00:27:01.92 But we're here by the grace of God, 00:27:01.95\00:27:04.82 because with God all things are possible. 00:27:04.85\00:27:08.72 But God works through people, 00:27:08.76\00:27:10.93 He's working, glory be to God, 00:27:10.96\00:27:13.13 we believe through us, 00:27:13.16\00:27:15.13 but he is also working my friend, 00:27:15.16\00:27:17.33 through you 00:27:17.37\00:27:19.00 because of your prayers and your support, your gifts. 00:27:19.03\00:27:23.54 These people many of them are hearing 00:27:23.57\00:27:26.14 the true gospel of Christ for the first time. 00:27:26.17\00:27:29.64 So my heart is full of thanks to God and to you today. 00:27:29.68\00:27:34.98 Would you please drop me a line 00:27:35.02\00:27:37.32 John Carter P.O. 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