The Carter Report presents Plain Talk with John Carter. 00:00:04.33\00:00:09.00 Welcome back to Plain Talk. 00:00:17.31\00:00:19.71 Our television program is seen around the world 00:00:19.75\00:00:21.82 and thousands of people sending their questions. 00:00:21.85\00:00:25.25 Today we are answering these questions 00:00:25.29\00:00:28.36 with some plain talk. 00:00:28.39\00:00:31.23 Allen Deleon is your spokesman and the first question is, 00:00:31.26\00:00:35.56 here it comes. 00:00:35.60\00:00:37.53 What is the unpardonable sin? 00:00:37.57\00:00:40.24 Well, that's the sin that God cannot forgive, 00:00:40.27\00:00:42.50 that's why it's called the unpardonable sin. 00:00:42.54\00:00:44.87 How do you know if you've committed the unpardonable sin? 00:00:44.91\00:00:47.94 Please take your Bible, 00:00:47.98\00:00:49.38 come over here to Matthew 12:31, 00:00:49.41\00:00:53.52 dear hearts and gentle people, 00:00:53.55\00:00:55.08 Matthew 12:31 is we think about the unpardonable sin, 00:00:55.12\00:01:01.62 Matthew 12. 00:01:01.66\00:01:02.99 Welcome today, 00:01:03.02\00:01:04.39 ladies and Gentlemen to Plain Talk. 00:01:04.43\00:01:06.70 Matthew Chapter 12, what did I say, 31? 00:01:06.73\00:01:10.97 "Therefore I say to you, 00:01:11.00\00:01:12.37 every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men." 00:01:12.40\00:01:15.80 Well, somebody got to say hallelujah, 00:01:15.84\00:01:17.64 that's good news. 00:01:17.67\00:01:19.11 "Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, 00:01:19.14\00:01:22.98 but the blasphemy against the Spirit 00:01:23.01\00:01:26.31 shall not be forgiven men." 00:01:26.35\00:01:29.38 The Bible says God will forgive every sin. 00:01:29.42\00:01:32.12 Every sin that is confessed and forsaken. 00:01:32.15\00:01:36.76 That means that God will forgive murder, 00:01:36.79\00:01:40.10 adultery, lying, 00:01:40.13\00:01:42.46 cheating, stealing, every sin. 00:01:42.50\00:01:46.00 Now listen to this, every sin that you confess to God, 00:01:46.03\00:01:50.94 every sin you repent off to God, 00:01:50.97\00:01:53.81 every sin that you repudiate. 00:01:53.84\00:01:57.11 But the unpardonable sin is unpardonable, 00:01:57.15\00:02:01.72 because it isn't confessed to God. 00:02:01.75\00:02:04.52 It's not confessed to God. 00:02:04.55\00:02:06.86 And the reason it isn't confessed to God 00:02:06.89\00:02:10.06 because it's the sin against the Holy Spirit, 00:02:10.09\00:02:14.00 Jesus said. 00:02:14.03\00:02:15.50 If you sin against the Holy Spirit, 00:02:15.53\00:02:17.53 Jesus said, you never, never going to get forgiveness. 00:02:17.57\00:02:22.40 Now who is the Holy Spirit? 00:02:22.44\00:02:24.94 He is the third person of the Godhead. 00:02:24.97\00:02:28.68 There's the Father, the Son and there is the Holy Spirit, 00:02:28.71\00:02:32.35 and the Holy Spirit is the person 00:02:32.38\00:02:34.98 who comes from God and who... 00:02:35.02\00:02:37.95 No, wait for this. 00:02:37.99\00:02:39.72 He comes and he talks to our minds, 00:02:39.75\00:02:44.26 he talks to our souls. 00:02:44.29\00:02:46.86 So if I'd been sinning against God. 00:02:46.90\00:02:50.00 All of a sudden, 00:02:50.03\00:02:51.90 I feel something inside that is stirring, 00:02:51.93\00:02:55.30 it is stirring, what is it? 00:02:55.34\00:02:57.04 It's conscience. 00:02:57.07\00:02:58.84 So he works through the conscience. 00:02:58.87\00:03:01.91 Now if I'm wise, I will go to God and I'll say, 00:03:01.94\00:03:05.25 "God, I've sinned against heaven 00:03:05.28\00:03:08.22 and I've sinned against you. 00:03:08.25\00:03:10.09 I'm no longer worthy to be known as your son." 00:03:10.12\00:03:14.52 If you read in Luke Chapter 15, 00:03:14.56\00:03:18.36 but there is an alternative that I can do 00:03:18.39\00:03:20.40 and many people do it. 00:03:20.43\00:03:21.76 I say, God, no, not now 00:03:21.80\00:03:27.44 and I hardened my heart. 00:03:27.47\00:03:31.27 Every time I say no to God, 00:03:31.31\00:03:34.28 it makes it easier to say no to God the next time. 00:03:34.31\00:03:39.15 Now, look at these hands, 00:03:39.18\00:03:41.95 they're not very callused, are they? 00:03:41.98\00:03:44.45 When I was a boy, I used to drive a big bulldozer 00:03:44.49\00:03:46.89 up in North Queensland, 00:03:46.92\00:03:48.32 and I had some calluses on my hands 00:03:48.36\00:03:50.59 because if you're driving a huge big bulldozer 00:03:50.63\00:03:53.09 and you're pulling the levers, 00:03:53.13\00:03:54.80 your hands get a little callused. 00:03:54.83\00:03:58.23 But if I were to go back to doing that work again, 00:03:58.27\00:04:01.27 I would build up calluses. 00:04:01.30\00:04:03.84 And as I build up the calluses, 00:04:03.87\00:04:06.31 my hands loose their sensitivity. 00:04:06.34\00:04:12.18 When I say no to God, my friends, 00:04:12.21\00:04:16.38 my heart starts to build up calluses 00:04:16.42\00:04:21.26 and I lose my spiritual sensitivity, 00:04:21.29\00:04:26.76 so that God can be speaking 00:04:26.80\00:04:28.80 in my ear like thunder 00:04:28.83\00:04:34.70 and I don't hear him. 00:04:34.74\00:04:37.67 So when God comes and talks to me, 00:04:37.71\00:04:39.81 the first time it sounds like a thunder. 00:04:39.84\00:04:44.68 It seems as though I'm right there at Mount Sinai. 00:04:44.71\00:04:50.15 When I say no, 00:04:50.19\00:04:53.72 I build up a little callus. 00:04:53.76\00:04:55.62 I say no and the callus gets thicker. 00:04:55.66\00:04:58.99 And if I keep saying no to God, 00:04:59.03\00:05:02.60 the time will come 00:05:02.63\00:05:05.07 when I'll build up so many spiritual calluses 00:05:05.10\00:05:10.21 that God will speak with a voice of thunder 00:05:10.24\00:05:14.11 but I won't hear Him. 00:05:14.14\00:05:18.15 When Beverley and I were first married, 00:05:18.18\00:05:20.92 we were sent to a town in Australia 00:05:20.95\00:05:23.35 by the name of Wagga Wagga. 00:05:23.39\00:05:27.09 That's all right, Americans got funny names too, 00:05:27.12\00:05:29.29 but anyhow, we are sent to a town 00:05:29.32\00:05:32.23 by the name of Wagga Wagga. 00:05:32.26\00:05:34.86 You know why? 00:05:34.90\00:05:36.23 Well, I helped a man by the name 00:05:36.26\00:05:38.10 of George Bernard Shaw, 00:05:38.13\00:05:39.47 a great evangelist run an evangelistic campaign. 00:05:39.50\00:05:42.07 We stayed in the house, not on the railway track, 00:05:42.10\00:05:46.27 but right next to it. 00:05:46.31\00:05:49.38 And at midnight the Southern Aurora came through. 00:05:49.41\00:05:52.21 In those days there were steam trains, 00:05:52.25\00:05:53.85 they are the best trains. 00:05:53.88\00:05:55.62 You know, blowing lots of steam, 00:05:55.65\00:05:57.19 making lots of noise and the Southern Aurora 00:05:57.22\00:05:59.72 would come thundering through Wagga. 00:05:59.75\00:06:01.82 When it came thundering through Wagga, 00:06:01.86\00:06:04.33 we thought it came through our bedroom. 00:06:04.36\00:06:07.33 We both jumped up so fast, we hid ourselves, 00:06:07.36\00:06:10.57 we bumped into each other in the middle. 00:06:10.60\00:06:13.50 The train was about 100 yards away, 00:06:13.54\00:06:15.34 where you now came roaring through 00:06:15.37\00:06:17.31 and blowing this tremendous whistle. 00:06:17.34\00:06:19.61 You know, 00:06:19.64\00:06:21.71 we were the only people in Wagga who woke up. 00:06:21.74\00:06:24.95 You know why? 00:06:24.98\00:06:28.12 They had build up calluses to the Southern Aurora train. 00:06:28.15\00:06:32.15 The next night we woke up too, and the next night we woke up 00:06:32.19\00:06:36.09 and the next night we almost didn't wake up 00:06:36.12\00:06:38.63 but we woke up a bit. 00:06:38.66\00:06:40.00 But the next night in the week or so time, 00:06:40.03\00:06:42.83 the train would come through, 00:06:42.86\00:06:45.07 we didn't even know if it's coming through. 00:06:45.10\00:06:48.47 You know why? 00:06:48.50\00:06:49.84 We had become desensitized. 00:06:49.87\00:06:54.54 Now, let me tell you something very important. 00:06:54.58\00:06:58.65 You don't get a suntan sitting inside a refrigerator, do you? 00:06:58.68\00:07:02.88 You don't get a suntan sitting inside a refrigerator. 00:07:02.92\00:07:05.92 You get a suntan sitting out in the sun. 00:07:05.95\00:07:09.16 But sitting out in the sun is a great place 00:07:09.19\00:07:12.59 to get a suntan but it is also dangerous. 00:07:12.63\00:07:16.56 When you go to a place 00:07:16.60\00:07:18.47 where the sun shine of God's love 00:07:18.50\00:07:21.00 is streaming forth, it's pleasant 00:07:21.04\00:07:24.61 and it's wonderful but it is also dangerous, 00:07:24.64\00:07:29.51 because you are being exposed 00:07:29.54\00:07:32.21 to the rays of God's Holy Spirit. 00:07:32.25\00:07:36.35 Now, if you are sitting in a meeting like this 00:07:36.38\00:07:39.85 and somebody one of us, 00:07:39.89\00:07:41.22 and we are committing a sin against God. 00:07:41.26\00:07:46.46 Say somebody is fornicating, that's very common today. 00:07:46.49\00:07:52.07 As the text of the Bible are read, 00:07:52.10\00:07:54.94 there will be a voice that is speaking to my heart. 00:07:54.97\00:08:00.38 It will worry me in my stomach. 00:08:00.41\00:08:02.74 When I get to bed at night, I'll find it hard to sleep. 00:08:02.78\00:08:06.45 Southern Aurora will be pounding down. 00:08:06.48\00:08:10.99 And if I keep saying no to God, 00:08:11.02\00:08:12.82 the time will come when God will speak 00:08:12.85\00:08:15.96 the voice of the Southern Aurora but I won't hear, 00:08:15.99\00:08:19.96 not because God is not speaking, 00:08:20.00\00:08:21.90 but because I've closed my mind. 00:08:21.93\00:08:25.40 Therefore, the unpardonable sin 00:08:25.43\00:08:28.14 is the sin that I do not confess, 00:08:28.17\00:08:32.37 because I've closed my mind. 00:08:32.41\00:08:34.34 Will God torment sinners forever? 00:08:34.38\00:08:38.21 Well, that's what the pope says. 00:08:38.25\00:08:41.45 So if you believe the pope, I guess you would say yes. 00:08:41.48\00:08:44.45 Now that's what the great churches teach, 00:08:44.49\00:08:47.26 the Catholic Church teaches 00:08:47.29\00:08:48.76 that God is going to torment sinners forever. 00:08:48.79\00:08:51.19 The great Protestant Churches, 00:08:51.23\00:08:52.56 my beloved friends in the Baptist Church say yes, 00:08:52.59\00:08:56.26 God is going to burn sinners for all eternity. 00:08:56.30\00:08:59.33 I want you to think about this. 00:08:59.37\00:09:01.20 I want you to think about it 00:09:01.24\00:09:02.57 'cause we can throw these statements away, 00:09:02.60\00:09:04.51 you know just like glib statements. 00:09:04.54\00:09:06.78 Have you ever put your finger 00:09:06.81\00:09:08.71 over a flame of fire by mistake? 00:09:08.74\00:09:12.35 Ever done it? 00:09:12.38\00:09:13.72 I have, you know, even a candle. 00:09:13.75\00:09:17.45 Your finger, you smell, you smell the burning flesh. 00:09:17.49\00:09:23.46 Could you imagine if for one second, 00:09:23.49\00:09:25.83 your whole body was immersed in fire? 00:09:25.86\00:09:29.76 Flame, not for a minute but for an hour, 00:09:29.80\00:09:34.94 inconceivable torture for a day, 00:09:34.97\00:09:38.64 for a day, for a week, for a year. 00:09:38.67\00:09:44.28 People tell me that God is going to work 00:09:44.31\00:09:47.12 a trillion miracles to keep the body of the damned. 00:09:47.15\00:09:52.32 He's going to work these miracles 00:09:52.35\00:09:54.09 and keep the bodies or the souls 00:09:54.12\00:09:56.56 so sensitive that He can torture them 00:09:56.59\00:09:59.03 for trillions of years. 00:09:59.06\00:10:02.83 That's why, Ingersoll said, 00:10:02.86\00:10:04.57 if there is a God then he became a great skeptic. 00:10:04.60\00:10:07.04 He said, if there is a God, that he is the devil. 00:10:07.07\00:10:11.14 I do not believe that God is a torturer. 00:10:11.17\00:10:13.84 I believe that the doctrine of eternal torment 00:10:13.88\00:10:17.01 is based upon misunderstanding of the text of the Bible. 00:10:17.05\00:10:22.48 And let me give you a text that should help you. 00:10:22.52\00:10:24.79 Come over here to Jude 7. 00:10:24.82\00:10:27.19 That's one book before the Book of Revelation. 00:10:27.22\00:10:30.99 One book, Revelation is the last book in the Bible. 00:10:31.03\00:10:34.56 If you come to Jude and Jesus said, 00:10:34.60\00:10:37.60 "It is written man shall not live by bread alone 00:10:37.63\00:10:40.34 but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." 00:10:40.37\00:10:43.94 Jude verse 7, you got it, 00:10:43.97\00:10:46.78 my audience, and you folks watching on television. 00:10:46.81\00:10:50.65 Listen up. 00:10:50.68\00:10:52.01 "As Sodom and Gomorrah, 00:10:52.05\00:10:53.75 and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, 00:10:53.78\00:10:57.69 having given themselves over to sexual immorality 00:10:57.72\00:11:02.36 and gone after strange flesh, sexual version, 00:11:02.39\00:11:06.86 and set forth..." 00:11:06.90\00:11:08.23 as what, say it to me, 00:11:08.26\00:11:10.13 "as an example, suffering the vengeance..." 00:11:10.17\00:11:13.20 of what, "eternal fire." 00:11:13.23\00:11:15.47 Well, I've been to that area, I've been down to Numirah, 00:11:15.50\00:11:20.38 been down to the southern part of the Dead Sea. 00:11:20.41\00:11:23.01 I have actually felt in these hands, 00:11:23.04\00:11:26.92 the ashes of the great fires 00:11:26.95\00:11:29.82 that destroyed that civilization. 00:11:29.85\00:11:31.52 I picked out little pieces of human bone 00:11:31.55\00:11:35.09 but those places are not burning today. 00:11:35.12\00:11:38.99 Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with eternal fire, 00:11:39.03\00:11:42.70 with hellfire, with fire that burnt for ever 00:11:42.73\00:11:46.43 and ever and ever, 00:11:46.47\00:11:48.14 while there was anything there to burn. 00:11:48.17\00:11:52.57 But when everything that could be burned was burned, 00:11:52.61\00:11:57.05 the fire went out. 00:11:57.08\00:12:00.22 And that's how it's going to be, 00:12:00.25\00:12:01.58 God is going to create a new heaven and a new earth. 00:12:01.62\00:12:04.69 The punishment of the wicked will take place upon the earth. 00:12:04.72\00:12:09.59 It's going to burn with fire, hellfire. 00:12:09.62\00:12:12.86 God is going to bring judgment upon America, 00:12:12.89\00:12:15.53 going to bring judgment upon Australia. 00:12:15.56\00:12:17.47 There is a judgment day coming. 00:12:17.50\00:12:19.77 God is just. 00:12:19.80\00:12:21.14 Justice cannot sleep forever, don't forget it. 00:12:21.17\00:12:24.47 There's going to be a judgment day, 00:12:24.51\00:12:25.87 there's going to be hell, 00:12:25.91\00:12:27.24 there's going to be fire. 00:12:27.28\00:12:29.18 But after the fire has done the cleansing, 00:12:29.21\00:12:31.45 the fire is going to go out. 00:12:31.48\00:12:34.48 And sin and sinners will be no more, 00:12:34.52\00:12:38.09 because God is a just God but He is also a loving God. 00:12:38.12\00:12:44.76 God is not a terrorist. 00:12:44.79\00:12:48.46 Where do you disagree 00:12:48.50\00:12:49.83 with the teachings of Pope Francis? 00:12:49.86\00:12:53.64 Lot of people have been obliviously 00:12:53.67\00:12:55.87 influenced by Pope Francis 00:12:55.90\00:12:57.41 because he is a very charismatic person, 00:12:57.44\00:13:01.18 seems to be such a nice person. 00:13:01.21\00:13:03.38 But we are not talking about nice people. 00:13:03.41\00:13:06.61 We don't join churches 'cause we like... 00:13:06.65\00:13:09.08 or some people do, but that's not really good reason 00:13:09.12\00:13:11.75 to join a church or I like the pastor. 00:13:11.79\00:13:14.29 I like the way, the curl in his hair 00:13:14.32\00:13:16.39 and all the rest in. 00:13:16.42\00:13:17.76 You don't go to a church because you like the pastor. 00:13:17.79\00:13:22.80 Oh, now the question was where do I disagree 00:13:22.83\00:13:25.13 with the teachings of Pope Francis. 00:13:25.17\00:13:26.94 Well, I'll tell you the main one, 00:13:26.97\00:13:28.30 come over here to Matthew 16:15-19. 00:13:28.34\00:13:31.24 It's in the New Testament. 00:13:31.27\00:13:33.01 Matthew Chapter 16, and folks, 00:13:33.04\00:13:35.84 this is the book that you got to get inside your heart, 00:13:35.88\00:13:40.28 Matthew 16:15 00:13:40.32\00:13:44.29 and onwards, 00:13:44.32\00:13:48.19 Verse 14 said, "So they said, 'Some say John the Baptist, 00:13:48.22\00:13:51.33 who are you, some Elijah, 00:13:51.36\00:13:53.36 others Jeremiah, one of the prophets. 00:13:53.40\00:13:55.13 Jesus said, 'who do people say that I am?' 00:13:55.16\00:13:57.90 And then, verse 15, he said to them, 00:13:57.93\00:14:00.57 'But who do you say that I am? 00:14:00.60\00:14:03.07 Simon Peter, you got the text, he answered and said, 00:14:03.10\00:14:06.47 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 00:14:06.51\00:14:09.74 ' That was a great testimony. 00:14:09.78\00:14:13.08 Who are you, Christ, you are the Son of living God 00:14:13.11\00:14:18.09 and Peter got it right, Peter got it right. 00:14:18.12\00:14:21.62 Verse 17, "Jesus answered and said to him, 00:14:21.66\00:14:24.43 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, 00:14:24.46\00:14:26.63 for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, 00:14:26.66\00:14:29.03 but My Father who is in heaven. 00:14:29.06\00:14:31.23 And I say to you that you are Peter, 00:14:31.27\00:14:34.20 and on this rock I will build my church, 00:14:34.24\00:14:37.37 and the gates of Hades or hell shall not prevail against it." 00:14:37.41\00:14:41.74 Let me tell you where I disagree with the pope, 00:14:41.78\00:14:45.08 where I believe that pope is dead wrong. 00:14:45.11\00:14:49.28 The pope believes that he is Peter, 00:14:49.32\00:14:53.22 when he is made the pope, 00:14:53.25\00:14:54.86 they say to him in Latin, "You are Peter." 00:14:54.89\00:14:58.83 The Pope believe if they sit in the chair of Saint Peter, 00:14:58.86\00:15:03.70 and they believe that Peter was first pope. 00:15:03.73\00:15:07.70 I don't believe that. 00:15:07.74\00:15:09.50 There is no evidence at all, 00:15:09.54\00:15:12.41 no evidence at all that Peter was a pope. 00:15:12.44\00:15:16.91 And if he was, it makes it more difficult for the pope, 00:15:16.95\00:15:19.71 because Peter was a married man. 00:15:19.75\00:15:23.39 So if Peter was the first pope, first pope was married. 00:15:23.42\00:15:29.66 Okay, I say to you that you're Peter, 00:15:29.69\00:15:34.13 and on this rock I will build my church. 00:15:34.16\00:15:37.47 What did he just say? 00:15:37.50\00:15:38.83 He said, You are the Christ, Son of the living God. 00:15:38.87\00:15:44.44 The true church is not build upon Peter 00:15:44.47\00:15:47.58 but upon Peter's confession 00:15:47.61\00:15:50.01 that Christ was the Son of God. 00:15:50.05\00:15:55.08 The church is built upon the rock 00:15:55.12\00:15:59.12 and not Peter because Peter was not a rock. 00:15:59.15\00:16:02.99 Peter was a tumbling stone 00:16:03.02\00:16:06.16 and he denied the Lord with cursing and swearing. 00:16:06.19\00:16:09.86 And more than this Peter is asleep in the grave 00:16:09.90\00:16:13.87 awaiting the resurrection. 00:16:13.90\00:16:15.80 The true church is build upon the living Christ, 00:16:15.84\00:16:20.54 the false church is build upon a dead man. 00:16:20.58\00:16:23.71 Don't forget it. 00:16:23.75\00:16:25.08 Now come over here, 00:16:25.11\00:16:26.45 I want to show you a text, another text. 00:16:26.48\00:16:27.85 Come over here, 1 Corinthians 10:4. 00:16:27.88\00:16:30.62 Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, 1 Corinthians 10:4. 00:16:30.65\00:16:34.16 I love the Bible, don't you? 00:16:34.19\00:16:36.36 Yeah. 00:16:36.39\00:16:37.73 You are really good audience, you really are. 00:16:37.76\00:16:40.70 1 Corinthians... 00:16:40.73\00:16:42.06 and we have a great television audience, 00:16:42.10\00:16:43.83 We just got a great television audience. 00:16:43.87\00:16:45.83 1 Corinthians 10:4, 00:16:45.87\00:16:47.57 " And all drank the same spiritual drink. 00:16:47.60\00:16:50.01 For they drank of that spiritual 00:16:50.04\00:16:51.87 Rock that followed them..." 00:16:51.91\00:16:53.27 Now what does it say, dear hearts? 00:16:53.31\00:16:55.98 Come on, that rock, that rock was who? 00:16:56.01\00:16:59.45 That rock was Peter. 00:16:59.48\00:17:01.62 No, no, no, no. 00:17:01.65\00:17:03.65 That rock was Christ, Christ is the rock. 00:17:03.69\00:17:06.79 The church is not built upon Saint Peter, 00:17:06.82\00:17:10.26 the church is built upon Christ, 00:17:10.29\00:17:12.49 He is the rock. 00:17:12.53\00:17:15.23 Now Peter doesn't save, Jesus saves. 00:17:15.26\00:17:19.73 And so the pope says, he is the successor of Peter. 00:17:19.77\00:17:23.37 I don't believe that for a moment, 00:17:23.41\00:17:25.61 even if he was, 00:17:25.64\00:17:27.71 it wouldn't be a compliment, because Peter is a dead man. 00:17:27.74\00:17:32.01 I want to belong to a church that is built upon Christ. 00:17:32.05\00:17:37.49 So that's where I disagree with the good pope. 00:17:37.52\00:17:41.12 I also disagree on these subjects. 00:17:41.16\00:17:43.93 Sola Scriptura, I don't believe 00:17:43.96\00:17:47.60 in the authority of church councils, 00:17:47.63\00:17:51.87 including my own church. 00:17:51.90\00:17:55.60 I don't believe, I'm talking spiritually now, 00:17:55.64\00:17:58.24 I'm talking about the doctrine. 00:17:58.27\00:18:00.28 I do not believe 00:18:00.31\00:18:02.44 in the authority of church council. 00:18:02.48\00:18:05.48 I believe in the authority of Holy Scripture. 00:18:05.51\00:18:09.45 That's what Martin Luther talks, 00:18:09.48\00:18:10.92 solo scriptura, Solus Christus, 00:18:10.95\00:18:12.95 only Christ, Sola gratia, only grace, 00:18:12.99\00:18:15.72 Sola Fide, only faith. 00:18:15.76\00:18:18.19 That's why I'm a Protestant, you see, I'm a Protestant. 00:18:18.23\00:18:23.30 I disagree with the pope on the gospel. 00:18:23.33\00:18:27.47 Do I need to be perfect to be saved? 00:18:27.50\00:18:30.24 Do I need to be perfect to be saved? 00:18:30.27\00:18:33.54 Yes, you do. 00:18:33.58\00:18:35.58 One hundred percent perfect. 00:18:35.61\00:18:39.41 Oh, wow, no, no, no good, 00:18:39.45\00:18:42.28 you're shaking heads that means thinking out, 00:18:42.32\00:18:43.92 I told you big heresy. 00:18:43.95\00:18:45.42 I told you the truth. 00:18:45.45\00:18:48.02 Yeah, God demands absolute, complete perfection, 00:18:48.06\00:18:54.90 a 100 percent obedience, don't get disturbed, 00:18:54.93\00:18:59.23 don't get...listen, 00:18:59.27\00:19:01.30 I'm telling you the truth. 00:19:01.34\00:19:04.14 God demands a 100 percent obedience, 00:19:04.17\00:19:07.54 a 100 percent love, 00:19:07.58\00:19:10.01 all the way through 00:19:10.05\00:19:11.41 from the moment of conception until now. 00:19:11.45\00:19:14.32 The only problem is none of us have got it. 00:19:14.35\00:19:18.95 Now you're not gonna understand the good news 00:19:18.99\00:19:23.02 until you understand the bad news. 00:19:23.06\00:19:25.33 And the bad news tells me that I'm a sinner 00:19:25.36\00:19:27.80 and I'm not good in myself. 00:19:27.83\00:19:30.93 Come over here to Romans 3:10. 00:19:30.97\00:19:33.10 Now, it seems to me most folks don't understand this gospel. 00:19:33.13\00:19:36.71 Romans 3:10, that's because they don't read, 00:19:36.74\00:19:40.61 that's because they don't study the Bible, 00:19:40.64\00:19:42.51 that's because they're ignorant of scripture. 00:19:42.54\00:19:44.91 You know, just a lot of religion. 00:19:44.95\00:19:46.65 Romans 3:10 "As it is written:" 00:19:46.68\00:19:49.35 what does it say? 00:19:49.38\00:19:50.79 'There is none righteous, no, not one..." 00:19:50.82\00:19:53.99 Listen. 00:19:54.02\00:19:55.82 Somebody comes to you and says 00:19:55.86\00:19:59.29 "I am sinless," 00:19:59.33\00:20:01.66 well that person is a liar. 00:20:01.70\00:20:04.70 That's what the Bible says. 00:20:04.73\00:20:06.07 There is no person righteous, not one. 00:20:06.10\00:20:10.01 The Bible tells us, we have all sinned and we fall short. 00:20:10.04\00:20:15.44 Come over here to verse 23, 00:20:15.48\00:20:18.08 "For all have sinned... " 00:20:18.11\00:20:19.45 that's past tense, 00:20:19.48\00:20:21.48 "and fall short of the glory of God..." 00:20:21.52\00:20:24.32 that's present perfect continuous. 00:20:24.35\00:20:27.32 The Bible says, I fall short of the glory of God. 00:20:27.36\00:20:30.73 It's like this, there is an abyss here, 00:20:30.76\00:20:33.26 you see, and I jump over the abyss 00:20:33.29\00:20:36.93 and I miss it by this much 00:20:36.97\00:20:40.27 and I fall down into hell. 00:20:40.30\00:20:43.97 Doesn't matter if I miss it by this or this, 00:20:44.01\00:20:45.97 I've missed it. 00:20:46.01\00:20:47.44 The Bible says, 00:20:47.48\00:20:48.81 "We fall short of glory of God." 00:20:48.84\00:20:50.71 That means we continue to fall short 00:20:50.75\00:20:53.82 of the glory of God. 00:20:53.85\00:20:55.18 That means there are no perfect people in themselves. 00:20:55.22\00:21:01.32 There are no sinless people 00:21:01.36\00:21:04.26 but the Bible says God demands perfection. 00:21:04.29\00:21:08.73 So what a dilemma? 00:21:08.76\00:21:10.70 Now unless you understand the issues, 00:21:10.73\00:21:13.27 the judicial issues, 00:21:13.30\00:21:16.50 you'll have a superficial view of the character of God 00:21:16.54\00:21:20.58 and the justice of God and Christ. 00:21:20.61\00:21:23.98 So the Bible says, it's unrighteous, 00:21:24.01\00:21:26.11 that's the whole lot. 00:21:26.15\00:21:28.25 Okay, verse 24, Romans 3:24, got it. 00:21:28.28\00:21:32.89 Here we go, "Being justified freely by His grace 00:21:32.92\00:21:38.43 through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus..." 00:21:38.46\00:21:41.13 Being justified. 00:21:41.16\00:21:43.57 And look here, look at me, 00:21:43.60\00:21:47.70 the word "justify" means to declare righteous. 00:21:47.74\00:21:54.24 It doesn't mean as the Pope teaches to make righteous. 00:21:54.28\00:21:58.68 Because if it means to make righteous, 00:21:58.71\00:22:01.68 I never come to the place 00:22:01.72\00:22:03.05 where I have enough righteousness. 00:22:03.08\00:22:04.42 That's why the pope says I got to go to purgatory. 00:22:04.45\00:22:07.56 Now this is the great issue in the gospel. 00:22:07.59\00:22:12.69 So it says, being justified, declare righteous. 00:22:12.73\00:22:17.47 It means this, if I come to Christ as a sinner 00:22:17.50\00:22:23.24 and come and face at His cross, 00:22:23.27\00:22:26.57 I come as the sinner and I trust fully in Christ 00:22:26.61\00:22:32.55 and rely upon Him, because He died for me. 00:22:32.58\00:22:36.95 God has to judge then declares that I'm righteous. 00:22:36.99\00:22:43.12 Not because I am but because he is. 00:22:43.16\00:22:46.73 And his righteousness is given to me as a free gift. 00:22:46.76\00:22:52.07 You see, that's the gospel, I can't earn it, 00:22:52.10\00:22:57.41 you see, I can't pay for it. 00:22:57.44\00:22:59.41 It's the gift of God because Christ did it for me. 00:22:59.44\00:23:06.01 How long does it take to be saved? 00:23:06.05\00:23:08.55 Oh, how long does it take to be saved? 00:23:08.58\00:23:10.59 You know these are all good questions. 00:23:10.62\00:23:13.86 Come over here to Luke Chapter 17, 00:23:13.89\00:23:15.69 I'll give you an illustration. 00:23:15.72\00:23:17.43 Luke 17:12 and onwards. 00:23:17.46\00:23:21.43 The miracles of Jesus were given 00:23:25.73\00:23:28.27 to teach spiritual truths. 00:23:28.30\00:23:31.74 Now, look at me, hear this. 00:23:31.77\00:23:34.18 The miracles of Jesus were given 00:23:34.21\00:23:36.64 to teach spiritual truths as in nature so in grace. 00:23:36.68\00:23:43.59 Now look at this text. 00:23:43.62\00:23:46.02 Luke 17:12, 00:23:46.05\00:23:48.89 "Then as He entered a certain village, 00:23:48.92\00:23:50.89 there met Him ten men who were lepers, 00:23:50.93\00:23:53.86 who stood afar off." 00:23:53.90\00:23:55.23 Lepers, that represents us. 00:23:55.26\00:23:57.97 And in ourselves, because we are sinners, 00:23:58.00\00:24:00.10 we stand afar off from God. 00:24:00.14\00:24:02.70 You see, we are born lepers. 00:24:02.74\00:24:05.44 This is the hardest truth for a sinner to see 00:24:05.47\00:24:08.18 because leprosy or spiritual leprosy 00:24:08.21\00:24:11.51 makes us blind. 00:24:11.55\00:24:13.55 We are blind to our sinfulness. 00:24:13.58\00:24:16.75 "And they lifted up their voice and said, 00:24:16.79\00:24:18.65 'Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!' 00:24:18.69\00:24:21.12 ' Mercy, this is grace. 00:24:21.16\00:24:23.43 "So when he saw them, He said to them, 00:24:23.46\00:24:25.33 'Go, show yourselves to the priests.' 00:24:25.36\00:24:28.03 And so it was that as they went, 00:24:28.06\00:24:29.96 they were cleansed." 00:24:30.00\00:24:32.17 You see, 00:24:32.20\00:24:34.54 they went and that was an act of believing. 00:24:34.57\00:24:39.21 People say, "Why do you ask people to come down to front 00:24:39.24\00:24:41.51 when you campaigned. 00:24:41.54\00:24:42.94 Why do you do this? 00:24:42.98\00:24:44.48 Because it helps people to believe. 00:24:44.51\00:24:48.28 It's the action that they can do. 00:24:48.32\00:24:49.85 It shows that they're relying and they have faith. 00:24:49.88\00:24:53.42 Now these lepers who represent us. 00:24:53.46\00:24:57.49 As the leper went to Christ in faith, 00:24:57.53\00:25:02.80 he was healed and immediately he had 100 percent perfection. 00:25:02.83\00:25:09.64 100 percent perfection by God's mercy. 00:25:09.67\00:25:12.84 How long did it take? 00:25:12.87\00:25:15.51 As long as it took to believe in Christ. 00:25:15.54\00:25:20.58 Now you come to this meeting today 00:25:20.62\00:25:24.09 and you feel like a leper. 00:25:24.12\00:25:26.79 You know you are not good enough. 00:25:26.82\00:25:28.36 None of us are good enough. 00:25:28.39\00:25:31.53 But the good news is that Christ is good enough. 00:25:31.56\00:25:34.43 And you come to Him and you truly believe. 00:25:34.46\00:25:39.77 And as you truly believe, 00:25:39.80\00:25:42.87 so you are healed of the leprosy of sin. 00:25:42.90\00:25:46.78 And there is another name written down in glory. 00:25:46.81\00:25:50.55 And it's mine as the hymn says, Oh, yes, it's mine. 00:25:50.58\00:25:53.78 God says, I no longer look upon you as a person, 00:25:53.82\00:25:57.75 who's going to hell, 00:25:57.79\00:25:59.22 I look upon you just like I look upon Jesus, 00:25:59.25\00:26:02.79 and you are saved. 00:26:02.82\00:26:05.53 That is the gospel and that is the gospel we teach, 00:26:05.56\00:26:10.37 and that is the gospel we believe 00:26:10.40\00:26:13.67 and that is the gospel that saves our souls. 00:26:13.70\00:26:17.01 For a copy of today's program, please contact us 00:28:24.43\00:28:27.70 at P.O. 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