The Carter Report presents Plain Talk with John Carter. 00:00:04.37\00:00:09.10 Welcome, today, to Plain Talk. 00:00:17.05\00:00:19.78 We're so glad that you joined us today. 00:00:19.81\00:00:22.78 Now we get hundreds of questions 00:00:22.82\00:00:25.19 that are coming from our viewers 00:00:25.22\00:00:27.36 and they are all great questions. 00:00:27.39\00:00:29.82 What we've done today, 00:00:29.86\00:00:31.19 we've taken all of these questions, 00:00:31.23\00:00:33.56 some of them are going to be just as they came in 00:00:33.60\00:00:36.67 and some of them are going to be joined 00:00:36.70\00:00:38.67 with some other questions 00:00:38.70\00:00:40.57 so we can get through them. 00:00:40.60\00:00:42.60 And the first question today is going to be read by a person 00:00:42.64\00:00:46.31 who is going to be the spokesperson 00:00:46.34\00:00:48.48 for the thousands of people who've sent us questions. 00:00:48.51\00:00:51.81 Alan De Leon is going to ask the questions. 00:00:51.85\00:00:55.48 Alan is going to be you today. 00:00:55.52\00:00:59.72 So do you believe public evangelism is dead? 00:00:59.75\00:01:03.73 You got to be kidding. 00:01:03.76\00:01:06.33 I believe that public evangelism is dead? 00:01:06.36\00:01:11.40 I couldn't believe that public evangelism is dead anymore 00:01:11.43\00:01:15.37 than I believe that marriage is dead. 00:01:15.40\00:01:18.64 Some folks tell me that marriage is dead. 00:01:18.67\00:01:21.08 They tell me all sorts of things are dead. 00:01:21.11\00:01:24.05 I guess it's dead to the people who think it's dead. 00:01:24.08\00:01:27.15 But I could not believe that public evangelism is dead 00:01:27.18\00:01:31.75 because of the texts of the Bible. 00:01:31.79\00:01:33.79 I'm a person who believes in the Bible 00:01:33.82\00:01:37.73 and I believe in the words of Christ. 00:01:37.76\00:01:40.63 And Jesus, in Matthew 24, said these words. 00:01:40.66\00:01:46.10 Matthew 24, 00:01:46.13\00:01:48.27 you good folks can turn to the text to Matthew 00:01:48.30\00:01:51.57 24:14, 00:01:51.61\00:01:57.58 it says, "This gospel of the kingdom 00:01:57.61\00:01:59.81 will be preached in all the world 00:01:59.85\00:02:02.08 as a witness to all the nations, 00:02:02.12\00:02:04.45 then the end will come." 00:02:04.49\00:02:07.79 I believe in Jesus 00:02:07.82\00:02:09.92 and I believe in the words of this great prophecy, 00:02:09.96\00:02:12.73 what Jesus said, 00:02:12.76\00:02:14.10 the Gospel is going to be preached in all the world 00:02:14.13\00:02:16.43 as a witness to all of the nations 00:02:16.46\00:02:18.53 and then the end is going to come. 00:02:18.57\00:02:22.77 I've seen with my own eyes 00:02:22.80\00:02:25.74 scenes like this one here. 00:02:25.77\00:02:30.75 People tell me, they say, John Carter, 00:02:30.78\00:02:33.72 public evangelism is dead. 00:02:33.75\00:02:36.79 Well, that's because they're living in a little, 00:02:36.82\00:02:40.49 pardon me, a little bubble. 00:02:40.52\00:02:44.89 Maybe it's a little bubble in a college somewhere, 00:02:44.93\00:02:48.03 some little church, 00:02:48.06\00:02:49.66 and haven't seen the power of God. 00:02:49.70\00:02:51.80 But I've seen the power of God. 00:02:51.83\00:02:55.80 On the screen here, 00:02:55.84\00:02:57.17 we've got a crowd of at least 150, 000 people. 00:02:57.21\00:03:03.41 That's what you can see. 00:03:03.45\00:03:05.41 And down the road, they had started up 00:03:05.45\00:03:07.15 some other meetings ahead, other big stadiums, 00:03:07.18\00:03:10.89 we weren't in control all those stadiums 00:03:10.92\00:03:13.09 but there were tens of thousands of people 00:03:13.12\00:03:15.42 in those stadiums 00:03:15.46\00:03:17.06 and they were listening to the Word of God. 00:03:17.09\00:03:20.00 And I've seen this around the world. 00:03:20.03\00:03:21.96 This was in Papua New Guinea, 00:03:22.00\00:03:24.17 but I've seen it in El Salvador, 00:03:24.20\00:03:27.04 where we saw the largest crowds in the football stadium 00:03:27.07\00:03:31.77 bigger than they'd had for their 00:03:31.81\00:03:33.27 great football matches. 00:03:33.31\00:03:36.64 You know, bigger than a huge grand final. 00:03:36.68\00:03:39.71 So I believe in the great power of God. 00:03:39.75\00:03:43.18 But this costs money. 00:03:43.22\00:03:45.55 And one reason people don't like evangelism. 00:03:45.59\00:03:48.09 I cannot tell you the story, is hard work. 00:03:48.12\00:03:54.93 It takes an immense amount of work 00:03:54.96\00:03:57.07 and it takes an immense amount of money. 00:03:57.10\00:04:02.60 I'm talking here of an immense amount of money. 00:04:02.64\00:04:06.21 But how can you value a human soul? 00:04:06.24\00:04:10.38 And I've seen with my own eyes, millions of people, Russia, 00:04:10.41\00:04:15.88 Ukraine, around the world, 00:04:15.92\00:04:19.82 I've seen it in so many different countries, 00:04:19.85\00:04:24.13 I've seen millions of people come to a knowledge of God 00:04:24.16\00:04:28.33 and a knowledge of Christ in the truth. 00:04:28.36\00:04:31.27 And we're told this all the time, 00:04:31.30\00:04:32.63 it certainly may work in such a place, 00:04:32.67\00:04:34.94 somebody might say 00:04:34.97\00:04:36.30 it's a gracious concession to our foolishness, 00:04:36.34\00:04:39.91 they'd say, "Oh, well, you know, yes, 00:04:39.94\00:04:41.54 it may work in Papua New Guinea, 00:04:41.58\00:04:43.55 it may work there, 00:04:43.58\00:04:44.91 but it certainly wouldn't work in India." 00:04:44.95\00:04:48.72 And so they said to me, won't work in India, 00:04:48.75\00:04:52.05 even the people who invited us to come to India 00:04:52.09\00:04:54.29 and run a big campaign, they said, 00:04:54.32\00:04:55.82 "Well, we know you're terribly enthusiastic, 00:04:55.86\00:04:58.93 but don't expect too much 00:04:58.96\00:05:00.30 because this is not gonna work here." 00:05:00.33\00:05:03.33 But in India, we saw crowds like this crowd here of Hindus 00:05:03.37\00:05:09.60 and Muslims coming to a knowledge of God 00:05:09.64\00:05:14.14 and being filled with the Holy Spirit 00:05:14.18\00:05:16.64 as they came down the front and broke out spontaneously 00:05:16.68\00:05:20.32 and prayed to Christ. 00:05:20.35\00:05:22.32 Do I believe public evangelism is dead? 00:05:22.35\00:05:24.62 No, but I believe that many in the church are. 00:05:24.65\00:05:28.69 I believe this but I believe that 00:05:28.72\00:05:30.99 when the Spirit of God comes upon us, 00:05:31.03\00:05:33.60 we're gonna see the miracles of God. 00:05:33.63\00:05:35.20 Now fortunately, today we have a president in the church, 00:05:35.23\00:05:38.63 his name is Ted Wilson and he believes 00:05:38.67\00:05:42.24 that public evangelism is very much alive, 00:05:42.27\00:05:46.71 and he should believe it because Jesus said 00:05:46.74\00:05:49.48 this Gospel is going to be preached in all the world 00:05:49.51\00:05:52.01 and then the end is going to come. 00:05:52.05\00:05:55.32 So no, I don't believe 00:05:55.35\00:05:57.62 that public evangelism is dead. 00:05:57.65\00:06:02.96 How can you keep the Sabbath on a round world? 00:06:02.99\00:06:07.00 Well, I've never tried to keep it on a flat world. 00:06:07.03\00:06:11.37 How can you keep the Sabbath on a round world? 00:06:11.40\00:06:13.84 Now that is a serious question. 00:06:13.87\00:06:18.14 Would you folks like to turn with me to Genesis 2:1-3. 00:06:18.17\00:06:24.51 Dear hearts and gentle people, 00:06:24.55\00:06:26.31 Genesis is the first book in the Bible. 00:06:26.35\00:06:29.08 It means the beginning. 00:06:29.12\00:06:30.99 Genesis 2:1-3, 00:06:31.02\00:06:36.02 "Thus the heavens and the earth, 00:06:36.06\00:06:38.36 all the host of them, were finished. 00:06:38.39\00:06:40.60 And on the seventh day God ended His work 00:06:40.63\00:06:42.76 which He had done, 00:06:42.80\00:06:44.13 and He rested on the seventh day 00:06:44.17\00:06:45.50 from all His work which He had done 00:06:45.53\00:06:47.07 and God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, 00:06:47.10\00:06:50.44 because in it He rested from all His work 00:06:50.47\00:06:53.68 which God had created and made." 00:06:53.71\00:06:56.24 Now Sabbath doesn't belong to any church, 00:06:56.28\00:07:01.68 some people say, "Well, that's your Sabbath." 00:07:01.72\00:07:03.42 No, no, no, come on, don't give me this. 00:07:03.45\00:07:05.69 It's not my Sabbath. 00:07:05.72\00:07:07.12 It's the Sabbath of the Lord our God. 00:07:07.16\00:07:11.19 He made the Sabbath. 00:07:11.23\00:07:14.60 Have you heard of Karl Barth? 00:07:14.63\00:07:17.37 Perhaps the greatest theologian of the 20th century. 00:07:17.40\00:07:21.27 In his book, he quotes these words... 00:07:21.30\00:07:25.24 Better try to get the molecules moving this morning 00:07:25.27\00:07:27.48 so I don't forget what Karl Barth said, 00:07:27.51\00:07:29.38 but he quoted I think, 00:07:29.41\00:07:33.45 I can't think of the man he quoted De Quervain 00:07:33.48\00:07:36.05 or something like this. 00:07:36.08\00:07:37.42 And this man said, 00:07:37.45\00:07:39.39 "When the Holy day becomes the day of man, 00:07:39.42\00:07:45.09 society and humanity whither away 00:07:45.13\00:07:49.86 and the demon's rule." 00:07:49.90\00:07:52.93 You want to know why the demons are ruling in the world today, 00:07:52.97\00:07:55.67 it's because people have gotten away from God 00:07:55.70\00:07:58.47 and they've gotten away from the Holy Sabbath. 00:07:58.51\00:08:02.14 The Holy Sabbath was to be 00:08:02.18\00:08:03.75 God's super antidote against liberalism 00:08:03.78\00:08:08.85 and every other ism which is against God. 00:08:08.88\00:08:13.42 So Karl Barth said, 00:08:13.46\00:08:15.06 "When the Holy day becomes the man, 00:08:15.09\00:08:19.26 society in humanity whither away, the demons rule." 00:08:19.29\00:08:24.00 They are ruling today in the world 00:08:24.03\00:08:26.30 and they're ruling today in America. 00:08:26.33\00:08:29.84 Now how can keep the Sabbath on a round world? 00:08:29.87\00:08:33.61 Well, the Bible doesn't tell us to keep a seventh part of time. 00:08:33.64\00:08:40.12 I've just come back from Australia 00:08:40.15\00:08:41.98 from taking a funeral over there. 00:08:42.02\00:08:44.95 It's a long way to Australia. 00:08:44.99\00:08:47.32 It's fifteen hours in the Dreamliner. 00:08:47.36\00:08:51.16 It's a long way. 00:08:51.19\00:08:53.03 And you cross over the date line. 00:08:53.06\00:08:55.76 And so when you leave on Sunday night 00:08:55.80\00:08:58.97 here in Los Angeles, 00:08:59.00\00:09:01.40 you miss out Monday all together. 00:09:01.44\00:09:03.84 So if you don't like Mondays, it's the way to go. 00:09:03.87\00:09:06.47 If you're not a Monday person, 00:09:06.51\00:09:07.84 you go to Australia on Sunday night 00:09:07.88\00:09:09.94 and you get there on Tuesday morning. 00:09:09.98\00:09:11.98 But if you look at the globe, as the earth turns on its axis, 00:09:12.01\00:09:18.85 so the day travels around the world. 00:09:18.89\00:09:22.92 Isn't that easy? 00:09:22.96\00:09:24.43 And you can find the seventh day 00:09:24.46\00:09:27.96 on any part of the world if you want to. 00:09:28.00\00:09:31.73 And a person said to me, this is funny. 00:09:31.77\00:09:35.24 Years ago, this person said to me, 00:09:35.27\00:09:37.94 "You can't keep the Sabbath on a round world." 00:09:37.97\00:09:40.38 Oh, I said, "Is that so? 00:09:40.41\00:09:42.98 I understand that you keep Sunday." 00:09:43.01\00:09:45.81 Well, you can keep Sunday 00:09:45.85\00:09:47.62 and you can keep Sunday on a round world, 00:09:47.65\00:09:49.32 yeah, sure can, but you can't keep the Sabbath. 00:09:49.35\00:09:54.32 Yeah, you know, Lord have mercy. 00:09:54.36\00:09:57.33 The day travels around the world 00:09:57.36\00:10:00.46 and the seventh day or the first day 00:10:00.50\00:10:02.63 of any day you like can be found on a round world. 00:10:02.66\00:10:08.74 And remember, the God who gave us the Sabbath 00:10:08.77\00:10:12.07 was the god who made a round world. 00:10:12.11\00:10:17.38 Do you like the Pope? 00:10:17.41\00:10:20.35 Do I like the Pope? 00:10:20.38\00:10:23.18 Oh, bless your heart. I don't know the Pope. 00:10:23.22\00:10:25.55 I've seen the Pope on television 00:10:25.59\00:10:27.92 and it seems to be, 00:10:27.96\00:10:29.52 he seems to be a very nice person, 00:10:29.56\00:10:34.70 he drives a little tiny Fiat. 00:10:34.73\00:10:36.93 Have you seen the little car he drives? 00:10:36.97\00:10:39.50 Ever seen it? 00:10:39.53\00:10:40.87 Oh, you know, the previous Popes 00:10:40.90\00:10:43.20 had got into these big limousines, 00:10:43.24\00:10:46.04 but even when the Pope came to the United States, 00:10:46.07\00:10:49.44 he insisted on having this tiny little Fiat. 00:10:49.48\00:10:52.91 So you know, he is a big man, but he gets, 00:10:52.95\00:10:56.62 he gets into the little Fiat car and off he goes. 00:10:56.65\00:10:59.42 I like those things about the Pope. 00:10:59.45\00:11:02.06 Seems to be a man of the people, 00:11:02.09\00:11:05.56 but when we're talking about truth, 00:11:05.59\00:11:07.43 we are not talking about personalities. 00:11:07.46\00:11:11.53 Now this is very important. 00:11:11.57\00:11:15.90 Whatever the Pope is or whoever the pope is, 00:11:15.94\00:11:18.17 and he seems to be a nice person, 00:11:18.21\00:11:20.74 I don't really believe 00:11:20.78\00:11:24.71 in many of the things that he teaches. 00:11:24.75\00:11:27.98 He talks about helping the poor, 00:11:28.02\00:11:31.02 I believe that's great. 00:11:31.05\00:11:34.56 I believe that unbridled capitalism 00:11:34.59\00:11:36.79 can be a curse, and so can socialism. 00:11:36.83\00:11:42.53 So I believe in some of the things he says 00:11:42.56\00:11:44.80 but I want you to come over here 00:11:44.83\00:11:46.17 to Matthew 7:15, Matthew 7:15. 00:11:46.20\00:11:52.97 Now the Pope as you know is a Jesuit. 00:11:53.01\00:11:55.28 And they're about the smartest people 00:11:55.31\00:11:56.91 on the face of the earth, 00:11:56.95\00:11:58.81 the Jesuits, and he is a super Jesuit. 00:11:58.85\00:12:01.92 Matthew 7:15 Jesus said, 00:12:01.95\00:12:07.22 "Beware of false prophets 00:12:07.26\00:12:09.96 who come to you in sheep's clothing, 00:12:09.99\00:12:13.83 but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." 00:12:13.86\00:12:18.97 So you don't judge a clergy man on how he looks 00:12:19.00\00:12:25.97 or the car he drives 00:12:26.01\00:12:28.74 or his pleasing manner of speech. 00:12:28.78\00:12:33.95 You judge a church or a pope on what he teaches the people. 00:12:33.98\00:12:40.36 And there are some things, many things 00:12:40.39\00:12:42.66 that the Pope teaches 00:12:42.69\00:12:44.43 that I believe are totally opposed to the Word of God, 00:12:44.46\00:12:48.60 for instance, mass, the mass. 00:12:48.63\00:12:54.00 He believes that the priest has the power 00:12:54.04\00:12:59.61 to take that little piece of bread 00:12:59.64\00:13:02.24 and through the doctrine of transubstantiation, 00:13:02.28\00:13:06.58 turn into the actual body of Christ. 00:13:06.61\00:13:09.85 Did you know that? 00:13:09.88\00:13:11.25 That's the doctrine of the mass transubstantiation. 00:13:11.29\00:13:14.89 Do I believe this? No. 00:13:14.92\00:13:16.99 He believes that the mass is a sacrifice. 00:13:17.03\00:13:21.20 No, no, no. 00:13:21.23\00:13:22.56 The Church, yes, yes, yes. 00:13:22.60\00:13:24.87 The Roman church does teach that the mass is a sacrifice, 00:13:24.90\00:13:29.70 like Calvary, but the Bible says 00:13:29.74\00:13:33.68 that Christ died for our sins once and for all. 00:13:33.71\00:13:39.48 So I do not believe in the mass, 00:13:39.51\00:13:42.55 even though the Pope may have a smiling face. 00:13:42.58\00:13:45.55 I believe the mass is a terrible blasphemy 00:13:45.59\00:13:51.29 and God has opposed it. 00:13:51.33\00:13:52.76 I do not believe in the eternal hell 00:13:52.79\00:13:55.56 that he teaches. 00:13:55.60\00:13:57.00 I do not believe that God is going to torment sinners 00:13:57.03\00:14:01.17 for billions and billions of years. 00:14:01.20\00:14:04.04 I do not believe in purgatory such as he teaches. 00:14:04.07\00:14:07.78 You know what purgatory is? 00:14:07.81\00:14:09.64 You know what it is? 00:14:09.68\00:14:11.01 Well, if you're not good enough, 00:14:11.05\00:14:12.38 when you die and nobody is good enough in himself, 00:14:12.41\00:14:15.05 then you got to go into a place and be purged. 00:14:15.08\00:14:18.75 That's why they call it purgatory, 00:14:18.79\00:14:21.42 the purging of your sins. 00:14:21.46\00:14:23.56 And so you may have to spend time, you know, 00:14:23.59\00:14:25.76 a million years getting burnt and tortured 00:14:25.79\00:14:29.23 before you're good enough to go into the presence of God. 00:14:29.26\00:14:31.23 I don't believe in purgatory. 00:14:31.27\00:14:33.80 I don't believe in the Gospel that the Pope teaches, 00:14:33.84\00:14:36.47 'cause I don't believe it is a Gospel. 00:14:36.50\00:14:39.17 He believes that the Gospel is when Spirit of God comes into 00:14:39.21\00:14:45.58 and makes you like God and makes you good enough. 00:14:45.61\00:14:49.15 And he knows that nobody in this lifetime is good enough 00:14:49.18\00:14:52.29 to go to heaven, so therefore he's got to go into purgatory. 00:14:52.32\00:14:55.96 So I don't believe in this. I don't believe in that Gospel. 00:14:55.99\00:14:59.46 I don't believe in the veneration 00:14:59.49\00:15:02.90 of the Blessed Virgin Mary. 00:15:02.93\00:15:06.27 And the Pope is a great venerator of the Virgin Mary. 00:15:06.30\00:15:08.97 You know why I don't believe in praying to the Virgin Mary? 00:15:09.00\00:15:13.07 Because the Bible tells me, 00:15:13.11\00:15:14.44 the Virgin Mary is sleeping in the grave 00:15:14.48\00:15:18.48 and she is waiting the resurrection. 00:15:18.51\00:15:20.55 I don't believe in prayers to the saints 00:15:20.58\00:15:23.49 because I don't believe that the saints can save us. 00:15:23.52\00:15:27.92 Don't believe in any of that stuff. 00:15:27.96\00:15:29.59 So while I would like to believe 00:15:29.62\00:15:33.29 the Pope is a nice man and all the rest of it, 00:15:33.33\00:15:36.30 we're not talking about nice people, 00:15:36.33\00:15:38.17 we're talking about what does the Bible teach. 00:15:38.20\00:15:43.04 What do you know about Malachi Martin? 00:15:43.07\00:15:46.37 What do I know about Malachi Martin? 00:15:46.41\00:15:48.08 I know lot. 00:15:48.11\00:15:51.68 I'll tell you what I know. 00:15:51.71\00:15:54.05 Malachi Martin was a Jesuit. 00:15:54.08\00:15:59.02 Now the Jesuits are about 00:15:59.05\00:16:00.79 the smartest people in the world. 00:16:00.82\00:16:04.29 And the Jesuits have infiltrated 00:16:04.33\00:16:07.96 almost every organization 00:16:08.00\00:16:10.00 and almost every church on the face of the earth. 00:16:10.03\00:16:15.54 And so if you are in a church that seems to be going against 00:16:15.57\00:16:18.64 what the Bible teaches and stopping the preaching 00:16:18.67\00:16:24.35 and the prophecies, maybe you've got a mole. 00:16:24.38\00:16:30.05 So the Jesuits have infiltrated virtually every organization. 00:16:30.09\00:16:34.26 Malachi Martin wrote the book, the books, let me think now. 00:16:34.29\00:16:39.09 He wrote the book "The Jesuits" 00:16:39.13\00:16:41.53 that talks about the work of the Jesuits 00:16:41.56\00:16:43.33 in the world today. 00:16:43.37\00:16:45.80 And the secret war of the Jesuits 00:16:45.83\00:16:47.70 against the hierarchy. 00:16:47.74\00:16:49.64 And he wrote also an amazing book 00:16:49.67\00:16:52.21 that I recommend to you, "The Keys of this Blood." 00:16:52.24\00:16:57.45 And it's the story of how he believes 00:16:57.48\00:17:00.65 that the great Vatican is going to take over the world. 00:17:00.68\00:17:06.65 He's put it in writing. 00:17:06.69\00:17:08.66 A great minister by the name of N.C. Wilson, Neal Wilson, 00:17:08.69\00:17:15.16 said to me many, many years ago, 00:17:15.20\00:17:17.90 this book is the inside story 00:17:17.93\00:17:22.30 of the working of the mystery of inequity. 00:17:22.34\00:17:27.71 "The Keys of this Blood." 00:17:27.74\00:17:31.15 Before his death, he also claimed. 00:17:31.18\00:17:35.18 And you can get this on the internet, 00:17:35.22\00:17:37.82 he claimed that there was an enthronement 00:17:37.85\00:17:41.52 in the Vatican of the fallen archangel, 00:17:41.56\00:17:45.99 super angel, and this was Lucifer. 00:17:46.03\00:17:50.20 It is what this Jesuit said 00:17:50.23\00:17:52.50 that he was totally opposed to it. 00:17:52.53\00:17:54.47 And said that was the reason 00:17:54.50\00:17:56.50 that some other popes were having 00:17:56.54\00:17:58.01 such a tremendous problem 00:17:58.04\00:18:00.01 in the Vatican controlling the pedophilia. 00:18:00.04\00:18:04.05 And he said that after this enthronement 00:18:04.08\00:18:06.15 that took place in the secret part 00:18:06.18\00:18:08.72 of the Vatican led by some cardinals, 00:18:08.75\00:18:12.25 there was a terrible wave of child abuse 00:18:12.29\00:18:16.79 that swept around the world. 00:18:16.83\00:18:19.43 So that is Malachi Martin, 00:18:19.46\00:18:21.73 a Jesuit who gave the inside story. 00:18:21.76\00:18:26.60 Can we tell which day is the Sabbath day? 00:18:26.63\00:18:30.11 Oh, yes, it's pretty easy actually. 00:18:30.14\00:18:32.17 Which day is the Sabbath day? 00:18:32.21\00:18:36.18 This comes down to another question 00:18:36.21\00:18:38.61 has time been lost. 00:18:38.65\00:18:39.98 Now would you come over here 00:18:40.02\00:18:41.35 to Exodus 16:4? 00:18:41.38\00:18:47.26 This talks about the children of Israel 00:18:47.29\00:18:50.86 when they had just come up out of the land of Egypt. 00:18:50.89\00:18:53.40 It's talking about the Exodus, the coming out, 00:18:53.43\00:18:56.46 Exodus 16:4, 00:18:56.50\00:19:00.47 "Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Behold, 00:19:00.50\00:19:02.44 I will rain bread from heaven for you. 00:19:02.47\00:19:04.84 And the people shall go out 00:19:04.87\00:19:06.21 and gather a certain quota every day, 00:19:06.24\00:19:09.04 that I may test them, 00:19:09.08\00:19:10.58 whether they will walk in My law or not." 00:19:10.61\00:19:13.98 Verse 5, "And it shall be on the sixth day 00:19:14.02\00:19:16.95 that they shall prepare what they bring in, 00:19:16.99\00:19:19.45 and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily." 00:19:19.49\00:19:23.59 This is the story of the giving of the manna. 00:19:23.63\00:19:25.99 Verse 23, "Then he said to them, 00:19:26.03\00:19:29.23 'This is what the Lord has said: 00:19:29.26\00:19:31.30 Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord..." 00:19:31.33\00:19:35.94 and it talks then about the giving of the manna. 00:19:35.97\00:19:39.41 My friends, the children of Israel 00:19:39.44\00:19:43.38 were in the wilderness as you know for how long? 00:19:43.41\00:19:47.02 About forty years. 00:19:47.05\00:19:48.65 Forty years. 00:19:48.68\00:19:50.22 And to sustain them, God gave them angel's food. 00:19:50.25\00:19:55.69 It wasn't that sort of cake that you buy today 00:19:55.72\00:19:57.76 down at the super market. 00:19:57.79\00:19:59.33 But it was a special food that God prepared for them. 00:19:59.36\00:20:03.57 Now the Bible says, it would fall on the first day, 00:20:03.60\00:20:07.54 second day, third day, the fourth day, the fifth day, 00:20:07.57\00:20:10.64 on the sixth day, there would be double the portion, 00:20:10.67\00:20:14.84 double portion, but on the seventh day, zero. 00:20:14.88\00:20:18.95 And the Bible tells the story 00:20:18.98\00:20:20.32 how the children of Israel went out, 00:20:20.35\00:20:22.25 collected on the first day, the second day, 00:20:22.28\00:20:24.12 the third day, fourth day, the fifth day, 00:20:24.15\00:20:25.75 then the sixth day, then they got some more. 00:20:25.79\00:20:29.72 And if you got it on the first day 00:20:29.76\00:20:31.63 and if you got too much, 00:20:31.66\00:20:33.19 it went bad by the time the second day came. 00:20:33.23\00:20:36.56 But if you collected it on the sixth day, 00:20:36.60\00:20:39.13 even if you got a lot of it, 00:20:39.17\00:20:40.84 it was preserved on the Holy Sabbath day. 00:20:40.87\00:20:45.34 Yeah, it was a miracle. 00:20:45.37\00:20:48.51 And there were miracles, seven miracles, at least, 00:20:48.54\00:20:51.91 seven miracles a week for forty years, 00:20:51.95\00:20:56.48 telling the people which was the first day 00:20:56.52\00:20:58.79 and the second day and sixth day 00:20:58.82\00:21:00.16 and which day was the Sabbath day. 00:21:00.19\00:21:03.06 I think the dumbest person 00:21:03.09\00:21:06.39 should have been able to work out 00:21:06.43\00:21:07.90 which day was the Sabbath. 00:21:07.93\00:21:09.26 Don't you think? 00:21:09.30\00:21:10.90 Because when they went out of the, out of the camp 00:21:10.93\00:21:13.80 and when they went out on the seventh day, 00:21:13.84\00:21:16.07 there was none, 00:21:16.10\00:21:17.97 but a double portion on the sixth day. 00:21:18.01\00:21:21.71 So people tell me, time has been lost. 00:21:21.74\00:21:25.65 Let me tell you a little story that goes back to the days 00:21:25.68\00:21:28.18 when I was in Australia. 00:21:28.22\00:21:29.55 I had some people coming to one of my campaigns. 00:21:29.58\00:21:32.35 And this lady said to me, you can't keep the Sabbath 00:21:32.39\00:21:37.66 because time has been lost. 00:21:37.69\00:21:40.70 I said, "Oh, is that so?" 00:21:40.73\00:21:42.40 So I told her about this text. 00:21:42.43\00:21:44.17 She said, "No, no, no. 00:21:44.20\00:21:45.53 Time has been lost." 00:21:45.57\00:21:47.77 So you can't tell which is the seventh day? 00:21:47.80\00:21:49.67 She said, "No, it's absolutely impossible." 00:21:49.70\00:21:52.27 I said that she was a strict Sunday keeper. 00:21:52.31\00:21:56.08 This was going back a few years, 00:21:56.11\00:21:58.35 going back a few years. 00:21:58.38\00:21:59.71 I said, "Do you keep Sunday?" 00:21:59.75\00:22:02.98 She said, "Absolutely." 00:22:03.02\00:22:04.89 I said, "Why?" 00:22:04.92\00:22:06.25 She said, "Because the Lord rose 00:22:06.29\00:22:07.62 on the first day of the week." 00:22:07.66\00:22:09.89 I said, "So you can tell which is the first day, 00:22:09.92\00:22:13.26 tell which is the first day, 00:22:13.29\00:22:14.96 but you can't tell which is the seventh day." 00:22:15.00\00:22:16.80 "No," she said because time has been lost. 00:22:16.83\00:22:20.44 I mean, what are you gonna say? 00:22:20.47\00:22:22.54 So when the children of Israel come out of Egypt, 00:22:22.57\00:22:26.78 God made it very plain which was the first day, 00:22:26.81\00:22:28.84 the second day, and all the way through which was a Sabbath. 00:22:28.88\00:22:31.38 And when Jesus came, 00:22:31.41\00:22:33.28 we're not gonna take time to read the text 00:22:33.31\00:22:35.12 but in Luke 23:52 and onwards, 00:22:35.15\00:22:38.79 it actually tells you 00:22:38.82\00:22:41.26 that Jesus died on the preparation day, 00:22:41.29\00:22:44.76 that's Friday. 00:22:44.79\00:22:46.29 And He rose dead on the first day, 00:22:46.33\00:22:49.53 which is Sunday. 00:22:49.56\00:22:51.23 And the day between Sunday 00:22:51.27\00:22:54.47 and the sixth day in this passage, 00:22:54.50\00:22:56.74 in Luke 23, that is the Sabbath according to the commandment. 00:22:56.77\00:23:00.81 It is the Sabbath that Jesus kept 00:23:00.84\00:23:03.21 and all the apostles kept. 00:23:03.24\00:23:04.88 So it's as plain as the nose on your face. 00:23:04.91\00:23:11.79 Luke 16:22, 23 say's that the wicked rich people 00:23:11.82\00:23:17.23 will go to hell at death. 00:23:17.26\00:23:18.93 What do you think? 00:23:18.96\00:23:22.50 The question is that it seems as though Jesus said 00:23:22.53\00:23:27.54 that wicked rich people 00:23:27.57\00:23:30.81 are going to go to hell when they die. 00:23:30.84\00:23:33.74 This is the story of the rich man and Lazarus. 00:23:33.78\00:23:38.88 Would you come over here to Luke 15:3? 00:23:38.91\00:23:44.59 Matthew, Mark, Luke. 00:23:44.62\00:23:46.65 Luke 15:3, 00:23:46.69\00:23:50.96 now this is an area in the Bible 00:23:50.99\00:23:54.06 where you've got lots and lots of parables. 00:23:54.10\00:23:57.60 "So He spoke this parable to them..." 00:23:57.63\00:24:00.54 you see and chapter 16:1 "He also said to his disciples: 00:24:00.57\00:24:05.54 'There was a certain rich man who had a steward..." 00:24:05.57\00:24:08.58 These are parables or illustrations. 00:24:08.61\00:24:13.11 And then if you come to chapter 16:19, 00:24:13.15\00:24:18.75 "There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple 00:24:18.79\00:24:21.96 and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 00:24:21.99\00:24:25.69 And there was certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, 00:24:25.73\00:24:29.16 who was laid at his gate, 00:24:29.20\00:24:31.00 desiring to be fed with the crumbs 00:24:31.03\00:24:32.83 which fell from the rich man's table." 00:24:32.87\00:24:35.04 And verse 22, "And so it was that the beggar died, 00:24:35.07\00:24:38.24 and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. 00:24:38.27\00:24:40.94 The rich man also died and was buried 00:24:40.98\00:24:43.45 and being in torments in Hades, 00:24:43.48\00:24:46.18 he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, 00:24:46.21\00:24:49.62 and Lazarus in his bosom." 00:24:49.65\00:24:51.92 And listen very carefully, 00:24:51.95\00:24:54.76 listen, this is a parable, 00:24:54.79\00:25:01.26 and the details of the parable should not be pressed. 00:25:01.30\00:25:07.30 A parable teaches one great truth 00:25:07.34\00:25:10.64 and this parable teaches this 00:25:10.67\00:25:13.48 that you better turn to God while you're living 00:25:13.51\00:25:15.98 because there's coming a time, if you don't, 00:25:16.01\00:25:18.01 there's going to be a judgment day. 00:25:18.05\00:25:20.65 So this is a parable. 00:25:20.68\00:25:23.39 And parables teach one great central truth, 00:25:23.42\00:25:27.72 but the Bible teaches... 00:25:27.76\00:25:29.09 And I can give you a bunch of texts on this, 00:25:29.12\00:25:32.06 bunch of texts. 00:25:32.09\00:25:33.43 The Bible teaches 00:25:33.46\00:25:35.60 that people do not go to hell when they die. 00:25:35.63\00:25:39.80 They don't go to heaven when they die, 00:25:39.83\00:25:42.90 but the Bible teaches the people sleep in the grave 00:25:42.94\00:25:48.04 until the resurrection. 00:25:48.08\00:25:51.21 But the Bible teaches when Jesus comes, 00:25:51.25\00:25:54.28 there is a judgment day. 00:25:54.32\00:25:56.28 And on that day, the righteous will go to glory 00:25:56.32\00:26:01.32 and the wicked will be destroyed by fire. 00:26:01.36\00:26:06.13 Much more in our next segment of Plain Talk. 00:26:06.16\00:26:12.00 Hello, friend. 00:26:24.55\00:26:26.05 I'm John Carter in Havana, Cuba. 00:26:26.08\00:26:29.45 I'm standing here in Revolutionary Square. 00:26:29.48\00:26:33.82 This straight square is dedicated 00:26:33.86\00:26:35.99 to the great communist revolution under Fidel 00:26:36.02\00:26:39.23 that came to this country back 50, 60 years ago. 00:26:39.26\00:26:43.43 This place is still undergoing a revolution. 00:26:43.47\00:26:47.54 We've come to check out the reality of the situation. 00:26:47.57\00:26:52.17 Freedom of speech is not allowed here still, 00:26:52.21\00:26:55.68 preaching the Gospel out of doors 00:26:55.71\00:26:58.01 is not allowed here still, 00:26:58.05\00:27:00.15 whatever you hear about reconciliation, 00:27:00.18\00:27:02.88 nothing has really changed. 00:27:02.92\00:27:05.92 We've been told we cannot run public campaigns 00:27:05.95\00:27:10.59 in Cuba in any part of this world. 00:27:10.63\00:27:14.46 We can run meetings in churches. 00:27:14.50\00:27:16.97 That's allowed. 00:27:17.00\00:27:18.33 So what are we gonna do? 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