Welcome back. 00:00:13.88\00:00:15.21 Today we're talking about 00:00:15.24\00:00:16.58 what happens when a person dies? 00:00:16.61\00:00:18.85 In the last program, we spoke about 00:00:18.88\00:00:20.55 the reality of Christ's resurrection. 00:00:20.58\00:00:23.72 But there is overwhelming evidence to prove the truth 00:00:23.75\00:00:28.92 that Christ is alive and well in heaven, 00:00:28.96\00:00:31.49 that Christ rose from the dead. 00:00:31.53\00:00:33.26 And our hope today 00:00:33.29\00:00:34.63 is in the resurrection of Christ. 00:00:34.66\00:00:37.90 Question we're going to ask and answer now is this. 00:00:37.93\00:00:40.94 Where do we go at death? What happens when I die? 00:00:40.97\00:00:44.51 Come over here to the Book of Acts 2:29. 00:00:44.54\00:00:48.11 Would you please to the Book of Acts 2:29. 00:00:48.14\00:00:53.52 Where is the Blessed Virgin Mary? 00:00:53.55\00:00:55.78 Let's go, Acts 2:29, "Men and brethren, 00:00:55.82\00:00:59.72 let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, 00:00:59.75\00:01:02.36 that he is both dead and buried, 00:01:02.39\00:01:04.66 and his tomb is with us to this day." 00:01:04.69\00:01:06.76 Now we're talking about David, 00:01:06.80\00:01:08.23 the man who wrote the book of Psalms, 00:01:08.26\00:01:09.96 I mean one of God's great men, one of God's great heroes. 00:01:10.00\00:01:13.34 So if anybody is in heaven, it ought to be David, 00:01:13.37\00:01:16.10 don't you think? 00:01:16.14\00:01:17.47 Now verse 34 says, "For David did not ascend 00:01:17.51\00:01:20.84 into the heavens." 00:01:20.88\00:01:23.24 I mean, how plain can you get it. 00:01:23.28\00:01:25.61 David did not ascend into the heavens 00:01:25.65\00:01:27.98 but he says himself, 00:01:28.02\00:01:29.35 'The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand, 00:01:29.38\00:01:32.25 Till I make your enemies your footstool." 00:01:32.29\00:01:35.02 So the Bible says 00:01:35.06\00:01:36.99 that Saint David is not in heaven. 00:01:37.03\00:01:41.40 Now come over now to the words of Jesus, 00:01:41.43\00:01:43.37 come over here to John 11, 00:01:43.40\00:01:46.23 Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, 00:01:46.27\00:01:48.10 John 11:43 and 44. 00:01:48.14\00:01:54.58 John 11:43 and 44. 00:01:54.61\00:01:59.65 Now this is talking about the resurrection of Lazarus, 00:01:59.68\00:02:04.95 a man who died, who was dead for four days, 00:02:04.99\00:02:07.59 and Jesus went to the tomb and resurrected him. 00:02:07.62\00:02:11.76 Amazing story, amazing because it's true. 00:02:11.79\00:02:15.56 So look at this, John 11:43. 00:02:15.60\00:02:19.37 "Now when He had said these things, 00:02:19.40\00:02:21.47 He cried with a loud voice," Lazarus, come down from heaven. 00:02:21.50\00:02:26.24 He came to the tomb. 00:02:30.68\00:02:32.71 "When he said these things, He cried with a loud voice, 00:02:32.75\00:02:35.38 "Lazarus come forth." 00:02:35.42\00:02:37.65 And he came, you know where Lazarus was? 00:02:37.69\00:02:41.76 He was in the grave, he was in the tomb. 00:02:41.79\00:02:43.79 "And he who had died came out bound hand 00:02:43.83\00:02:47.33 and foot with grave clothes, 00:02:47.36\00:02:49.03 his face was wrapped up with a cloth. 00:02:49.06\00:02:51.43 Jesus said to them, "Loose him, and let him go." 00:02:51.47\00:02:56.81 I want you to know this. 00:02:56.84\00:02:59.11 The Bible says that Lazarus was called from the grave. 00:02:59.14\00:03:04.08 He wasn't called down from haven 00:03:04.11\00:03:06.85 and he wasn't called up from hell, 00:03:06.88\00:03:08.98 and he wasn't called out of purgatory. 00:03:09.02\00:03:11.75 The Bible says he came from the grave. 00:03:11.79\00:03:14.06 Now come over here to John Chapter... 00:03:14.09\00:03:15.59 Now why don't we read the Bible? 00:03:15.62\00:03:17.59 Why don't we believe this text? 00:03:17.63\00:03:19.29 John 5:28 and 29, Jesus said, "Do not marvel at this, 00:03:19.33\00:03:26.17 for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves 00:03:26.20\00:03:29.90 will hear His voice and come forth. 00:03:29.94\00:03:32.61 Those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, 00:03:32.64\00:03:35.71 and those who have done evil, 00:03:35.74\00:03:37.58 to the resurrection of condemnation." 00:03:37.61\00:03:40.12 Now listen to me. 00:03:40.15\00:03:41.62 Look at me, the Bible says, 00:03:41.65\00:03:44.29 "I don't have an immortal soul." 00:03:44.32\00:03:47.12 The Bible says the doctrine of the immortality of the soul 00:03:47.16\00:03:50.33 comes from the devil. 00:03:50.36\00:03:52.03 This is in the Book Genesis. 00:03:52.06\00:03:54.40 The Bible says, "When I die, I go to sleep 00:03:54.43\00:03:58.87 and I rest in the grave." 00:03:58.90\00:04:01.64 Now if the Bible is true. 00:04:01.67\00:04:04.61 Now this is rather delicate, what I'm gonna tell you now. 00:04:04.64\00:04:09.31 I don't want to offend my beloved Catholic friends. 00:04:09.34\00:04:14.38 But Mary is not in heaven, Peter is not in heaven, 00:04:14.42\00:04:19.99 the saints are not in heaven. 00:04:20.02\00:04:23.36 So why should I trust in Mary 00:04:23.39\00:04:28.16 to save my soul, 00:04:28.20\00:04:32.27 when she is in the grave all waiting the resurrection, 00:04:32.30\00:04:35.97 and that's why the Bible teaches 00:04:36.00\00:04:37.51 that only Jesus Christ can save me. 00:04:37.54\00:04:42.21 And you see the true church is not built upon a dead saint. 00:04:42.24\00:04:47.05 The truth church is built upon the living Christ. 00:04:47.08\00:04:50.79 Did you hear this? 00:04:50.82\00:04:53.22 The true church is built upon the living Christ. 00:04:53.25\00:04:56.73 And so the Bible tells me 00:04:56.76\00:04:58.73 that my hope is in the resurrection of Christ. 00:04:58.76\00:05:02.70 Our loved ones are not in pain. 00:05:02.73\00:05:06.77 Our loved ones are not in... 00:05:06.80\00:05:08.44 You say, you don't believe in purgatory. 00:05:08.47\00:05:10.37 No, of course, I don't believe in purgatory. 00:05:10.41\00:05:13.54 Purgatory is not taught in the Bible. 00:05:13.58\00:05:16.64 Purgatory was an invention of the medieval church 00:05:16.68\00:05:22.92 to scare people into going to church 00:05:22.95\00:05:25.95 and supporting the church 00:05:25.99\00:05:27.32 with their silver and their gold. 00:05:27.36\00:05:30.53 It is not taught in the Bible, 00:05:30.56\00:05:32.46 neither is limbo taught in the Bible. 00:05:32.49\00:05:34.43 How many souls are burning today 00:05:34.46\00:05:39.73 in the fires of hell? 00:05:39.77\00:05:42.20 Well, there's none. 00:05:42.24\00:05:45.04 None, the Bible tells us that we sleep in the grave 00:05:45.07\00:05:49.54 until the resurrection. 00:05:49.58\00:05:53.21 Now we come to the next question 00:05:53.25\00:05:55.05 that we have already asked and answered it. 00:05:55.08\00:05:58.69 But we'll do it again. 00:05:58.72\00:06:00.66 Are the dead conscious? 00:06:00.69\00:06:03.12 And this is a very important question, 00:06:03.16\00:06:04.86 because all of my Catholic friends 00:06:04.89\00:06:06.80 and most of my Protestant friends, 00:06:06.83\00:06:08.26 certainly Martin Luther didn't believed 00:06:08.30\00:06:09.83 in the immortality of a soul. 00:06:09.86\00:06:11.53 Hear this Lutherans. 00:06:11.57\00:06:12.90 Martin Luther did not believed in the immortality of the soul, 00:06:12.93\00:06:15.80 but most of my Protestant friends 00:06:15.84\00:06:17.57 believe in the immortality of the soul, 00:06:17.61\00:06:19.77 and they believe that the dead are conscious 00:06:19.81\00:06:23.91 and the dead can come back on occasions 00:06:23.95\00:06:26.18 and talk to you. 00:06:26.21\00:06:27.85 This of course is spiritism. 00:06:27.88\00:06:29.92 I want you to come over here to John 11, 00:06:29.95\00:06:32.35 Matthew, Mark, Luke John, fourth gospel. 00:06:32.39\00:06:34.62 John 11, we're going to notice the words of Jesus 00:06:34.66\00:06:39.39 and the words of John also. 00:06:39.43\00:06:40.90 John 11:1, are the dead conscious? 00:06:40.93\00:06:44.10 "Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of Bethany, 00:06:44.13\00:06:47.64 the town of Mary and her sister Martha." 00:06:47.67\00:06:50.41 So here's a man who get sick 00:06:50.44\00:06:52.44 and he gets so sick this man dies. 00:06:52.47\00:06:55.88 Then if you come to verses 11 to 14, 00:06:55.91\00:06:59.21 "These things He, Jesus said, and after that He said to them, 00:06:59.25\00:07:03.99 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps, 00:07:04.02\00:07:06.96 but I go that I may wake him up." 00:07:06.99\00:07:09.96 Then His disciples said, "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well." 00:07:09.99\00:07:12.99 How be it. 00:07:13.03\00:07:14.36 However, Jesus spoke of his death, 00:07:14.40\00:07:18.77 but they thought that He was speaking about 00:07:18.80\00:07:21.10 taking rest in sleep. 00:07:21.14\00:07:23.54 Then Jesus said to them plainly, 00:07:23.57\00:07:27.51 "Lazarus is dead." 00:07:27.54\00:07:32.78 Now I challenge you. 00:07:32.81\00:07:34.38 You may find this to be a shocking talk, 00:07:34.42\00:07:37.59 some of you may be saying, 00:07:37.62\00:07:38.99 I really don't want to hear this. 00:07:39.02\00:07:40.79 My friend, I'm not here 00:07:40.82\00:07:42.86 to defend the opinions of my church 00:07:42.89\00:07:46.09 or some organization, 00:07:46.13\00:07:47.90 I'm here simply to show you what the Bible teaches, 00:07:47.93\00:07:51.03 and all the way through the New Testament, 00:07:51.07\00:07:53.30 death is likened unto a sleep and Jesus, our blessed Lord, 00:07:53.34\00:07:58.51 and if we can't believe Jesus, we can't believe anybody. 00:07:58.54\00:08:01.44 Jesus said, "Lazarus is sleeping, 00:08:01.48\00:08:04.68 Lazarus is dead." 00:08:04.71\00:08:08.25 And that's why we read a few moments ago, 00:08:08.28\00:08:10.95 Jesus went to the tomb where Lazarus was sleeping 00:08:10.99\00:08:14.99 and Jesus said Lazarus come forth 00:08:15.02\00:08:18.19 and the dead man woke up and came out. 00:08:18.23\00:08:22.66 And I believe that's going to happen 00:08:22.70\00:08:24.03 to God's people one day. 00:08:24.07\00:08:25.40 So I don't believe in the immortality of the soul. 00:08:25.43\00:08:28.30 I don't believe in purgatory. 00:08:28.34\00:08:31.51 I don't believe 00:08:31.54\00:08:32.87 in the edification of the saints, 00:08:32.91\00:08:35.61 because a dead saint cannot save me, 00:08:35.64\00:08:38.81 I need a living Christ. 00:08:38.85\00:08:40.48 Amen. 00:08:40.52\00:08:41.85 Do you hear this, and so Jesus here I say, 00:08:41.88\00:08:46.02 you Peter, you were just a tumbling old stone he said, 00:08:46.05\00:08:50.09 I said you Peter, I'm going to build my church on the rock, 00:08:50.13\00:08:55.53 and the rock is Christ Himself. 00:08:55.56\00:08:58.50 So the true church is built upon a living Christ, 00:08:58.53\00:09:01.84 the false church is built upon a sleeping saint. 00:09:01.87\00:09:05.24 There was a little boy who lost his soldier dad. 00:09:08.54\00:09:13.18 Little boy was grieving. 00:09:13.21\00:09:15.38 The young mother didn't know what to tell him, 00:09:15.42\00:09:18.92 but she thought about it and she prayed about it, 00:09:18.95\00:09:22.22 seems to me that God helped her. 00:09:22.26\00:09:25.63 She said, "Remember how we used to play, 00:09:25.66\00:09:29.33 used to play in the daytime, summertime. 00:09:29.36\00:09:34.17 All right. 00:09:34.20\00:09:35.54 Long summer days, 00:09:35.57\00:09:38.44 then I'd call you in our supper time 00:09:38.47\00:09:40.18 and say come home, come home, it's supper time. 00:09:40.21\00:09:43.95 When you came in late in the day, 00:09:43.98\00:09:48.15 you'd have dinner 00:09:48.18\00:09:50.69 and as you would have dinner you start to nod off. 00:09:50.72\00:09:55.36 And mummy and daddy would pick you up 00:09:55.39\00:09:57.83 and take you into your bedroom 00:09:57.86\00:10:01.23 and we'd undress you and put your pajamas on 00:10:01.26\00:10:05.17 and you'd fall asleep, 00:10:05.20\00:10:09.30 and you'd peacefully sleep unconscious, 00:10:09.34\00:10:14.88 until the sun was shining through the glass windows 00:10:14.91\00:10:18.78 and the birds were singing. 00:10:18.81\00:10:22.42 So she said that's how it is with death. 00:10:22.45\00:10:27.02 Daddy is sleeping. 00:10:27.06\00:10:30.69 And when Jesus comes and the sun is shining, 00:10:30.73\00:10:36.73 Jesus is going to wake him up. 00:10:36.77\00:10:39.93 Just as he woke up Lazarus, Lazarus come forth, 00:10:39.97\00:10:44.04 this man who'd been dead for four days, 00:10:44.07\00:10:46.94 whose body was starting to deteriorate, 00:10:46.98\00:10:50.98 he came out of that tomb... 00:10:51.01\00:10:57.09 same as Jesus did. 00:10:57.12\00:10:59.22 Jesus came out of the tomb. 00:10:59.25\00:11:03.39 Next question, will we see our loved ones 00:11:03.43\00:11:06.59 who died trusting in Christ again? 00:11:06.63\00:11:09.30 For instance, will I see my mother? 00:11:09.33\00:11:12.47 I'm largely here today 00:11:12.50\00:11:13.84 because of my mother teaching me this faith, 00:11:13.87\00:11:16.64 and praying with me as a bit of a delinquent youth. 00:11:16.67\00:11:21.74 Will I see my father again who was brought up 00:11:21.78\00:11:24.05 in the great Roman Catholic Church. 00:11:24.08\00:11:27.08 As a young boy he was an altar boy 00:11:27.12\00:11:29.68 in Australia serving under the priest. 00:11:29.72\00:11:33.52 But later on in life 00:11:33.56\00:11:34.96 after he came to some of my meetings, 00:11:34.99\00:11:37.19 he discovered Christ in the gospel 00:11:37.23\00:11:40.60 and was baptized in the Christ 00:11:40.63\00:11:42.83 and died in the truth of the resurrection, 00:11:42.86\00:11:45.83 will I see them again? That is the question. 00:11:45.87\00:11:49.00 I want you to take your Bible, 00:11:49.04\00:11:50.81 come over here to 1 Thessalonians 4, 00:11:50.84\00:11:54.34 1 Thessalonians 4, 00:11:54.38\00:11:58.31 you folks who are watching in television, 00:11:58.35\00:12:00.38 just listen to this one in the Bible verse 13, 00:12:00.42\00:12:02.98 "But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, 00:12:03.02\00:12:05.12 concerning those who," what? 00:12:05.15\00:12:07.29 Fallen asleep. 00:12:07.32\00:12:08.66 And not talking about people in church either. 00:12:08.69\00:12:11.23 No, I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, 00:12:11.26\00:12:13.70 concerning those who have fallen asleep..." 00:12:13.73\00:12:15.86 What's he talking about? 00:12:15.90\00:12:17.27 "Lest you sorrow as others who have no hope." 00:12:17.30\00:12:20.27 Now there you got it again, 00:12:20.30\00:12:21.77 Jesus spoke about a death 00:12:21.80\00:12:25.27 and Jesus called it a sleep. 00:12:25.31\00:12:29.01 He did this all the way through His teachings. 00:12:29.04\00:12:31.11 When Jesus went into the tomb, Jesus slept for three days. 00:12:31.15\00:12:36.08 He was unconscious, didn't go to purgatory, 00:12:36.12\00:12:38.89 didn't go to any place called hell, 00:12:38.92\00:12:40.26 any of that stuff. 00:12:40.29\00:12:41.62 No, no, no, that's not taught in the Bible. 00:12:41.66\00:12:43.46 He slept and the Bible says, Paul says, 00:12:43.49\00:12:46.70 I don't want you to be ignorant concerning people who've died, 00:12:46.73\00:12:50.83 people who've fallen asleep. 00:12:50.87\00:12:53.13 Now verses 16 and onwards. 00:12:53.17\00:12:54.60 Have a look at this, because this is really terrific, 00:12:54.64\00:12:57.44 verse 16 and onwards. 00:12:57.47\00:12:59.04 Have you got it? 00:12:59.07\00:13:01.01 "For the Lord Himself 00:13:01.04\00:13:02.38 will descend from heaven with a shout, 00:13:02.41\00:13:04.85 with the voice of the archangel, 00:13:04.88\00:13:07.62 and with the trumpet of God. 00:13:07.65\00:13:11.19 The dead in Christ will rise first. 00:13:11.22\00:13:13.86 Then we who are alive and remain 00:13:13.89\00:13:16.02 shall be caught up together 00:13:16.06\00:13:17.39 with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 00:13:17.43\00:13:21.40 And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 00:13:21.43\00:13:24.63 Therefore comfort one another with these words." 00:13:24.67\00:13:28.67 Now the Bible teaches this. 00:13:28.70\00:13:30.04 I just want you to think about this. 00:13:30.07\00:13:33.88 The Bible teaches that Christ is going to come, 00:13:33.91\00:13:36.85 and He's going to come in power and great glory. 00:13:36.88\00:13:41.25 And Christ is the mighty Son of God, 00:13:41.28\00:13:44.42 He died and He came out of that tomb, 00:13:44.45\00:13:47.89 and the Bible says, 00:13:47.92\00:13:49.46 "He is going to come back in magnificent glory. 00:13:49.49\00:13:53.50 And I'm gonna put up a picture on the screen 00:13:53.53\00:13:55.63 and it just moves my heart 00:13:55.66\00:13:58.23 because it's a picture of Christ 00:13:58.27\00:14:01.34 coming with the angels. 00:14:01.37\00:14:05.71 That's going to happen. 00:14:05.74\00:14:07.91 I believe it's going to happen soon, 00:14:07.94\00:14:11.08 I believe the signs of the times tells me 00:14:11.11\00:14:13.75 that we are living in the very last days. 00:14:13.78\00:14:17.82 I believe this. 00:14:17.85\00:14:19.82 I'm convinced that this is true and the Bible says 00:14:19.85\00:14:22.92 when Christ comes back, He is going to give a shout, 00:14:22.96\00:14:27.00 it's gonna be pretty noisy, folks, 00:14:27.03\00:14:29.03 not gonna be a secret rapture. 00:14:29.06\00:14:31.40 No, no, no people said, 00:14:31.43\00:14:32.80 "You believe in secret rapture?" 00:14:32.83\00:14:34.20 No, I can't believe in the secret rapture, 00:14:34.24\00:14:36.71 that's the delusion of the devil, 00:14:36.74\00:14:38.24 it's not taught in the Bible. 00:14:38.27\00:14:39.87 The Bible says Christ comes backs 00:14:39.91\00:14:41.94 with the sound of the trumpet, 00:14:41.98\00:14:44.41 you know, shout of the archangel, 00:14:44.45\00:14:48.48 and then something tremendous is going to happen, 00:14:48.52\00:14:51.05 the graves are going to crack open, 00:14:51.09\00:14:54.22 and people by the millions are going to be resurrected, 00:14:54.26\00:14:58.49 think about that. 00:14:58.53\00:14:59.86 Amen. Think about that. 00:14:59.89\00:15:03.93 So do I expect to see my old dad, 00:15:03.97\00:15:06.90 who is baptized in the Catholic Church? 00:15:06.94\00:15:09.67 I shall do. 00:15:09.70\00:15:11.37 He's not gonna be an old man, 00:15:11.41\00:15:15.04 going to be young man, 00:15:15.08\00:15:17.25 young strong, lost most of hair 00:15:17.28\00:15:21.02 but he's gonna have it all back. 00:15:21.05\00:15:24.25 My mother is going to be a beautiful young woman again. 00:15:24.29\00:15:27.66 I have just come back from Australia. 00:15:27.69\00:15:29.42 For last few days, I have traveled 19,000 miles, 00:15:29.46\00:15:32.69 and every time I go to Australia, 00:15:32.73\00:15:34.46 I can tell you something. 00:15:34.50\00:15:35.83 This must be a scientific truth. 00:15:35.86\00:15:38.00 The continents must be drifting apart 00:15:38.03\00:15:41.27 because it seems to be further to go there each time. 00:15:41.30\00:15:44.47 All the planes are going slower, 00:15:44.51\00:15:46.04 even though I went on a Dreamliner, 00:15:46.07\00:15:47.74 came back on a Dreamliner, 00:15:47.78\00:15:49.34 but it seems though it takes a longer now. 00:15:49.38\00:15:52.51 But I went down to Australia to bury my old friend. 00:15:52.55\00:15:58.59 I guess, perhaps the best friend I ever had, 00:16:01.62\00:16:05.16 Graeme Bradford. 00:16:05.19\00:16:06.63 We traveled the world together, we went to Russia together. 00:16:06.66\00:16:10.17 We went to lots of places, dangerous places together, 00:16:10.20\00:16:13.54 but he got melanoma 00:16:13.57\00:16:15.50 and he fought it for about five years. 00:16:15.54\00:16:18.54 The doctors would see him out, you know, they would say, 00:16:18.57\00:16:21.38 you look remarkable for a man who ought to dead 00:16:21.41\00:16:24.75 because he was running and jogging, 00:16:24.78\00:16:27.22 and preaching and he kept going, going, 00:16:27.25\00:16:29.85 keep, he kept going on 00:16:29.88\00:16:33.12 and we are going to see him again. 00:16:33.15\00:16:35.09 Yes, on the last day at the resurrection. 00:16:35.12\00:16:39.89 When I see him again, he's not going to be a man 00:16:39.93\00:16:43.16 dying of c cancer, nothing like that. 00:16:43.20\00:16:47.87 He's gonna be the same guy, the same Graeme Bradford, 00:16:47.90\00:16:52.54 same sense of humor, 00:16:52.57\00:16:54.88 same child of God, but no cancer, 00:16:54.91\00:16:58.28 no melanoma, no pain, no hospitals, no doctors, 00:16:58.31\00:17:02.85 no morphine. 00:17:02.88\00:17:06.69 That's our hope. 00:17:06.72\00:17:09.26 I want you to think about it. 00:17:09.29\00:17:11.96 If the doctrine of the immortality of the soul 00:17:11.99\00:17:14.06 is really true. 00:17:14.10\00:17:16.46 Just be honest, think about this. 00:17:16.50\00:17:20.94 The Bible says that the way to destruction 00:17:20.97\00:17:23.24 is wide and broad, and most people go there. 00:17:23.27\00:17:27.74 The way to salvation the Bible say 00:17:27.78\00:17:29.64 is narrow and straight, only a few that will find it. 00:17:29.68\00:17:32.58 Now people don't want to hear that. 00:17:32.61\00:17:34.68 They want to think that everybody y 00:17:34.72\00:17:36.35 is going to go to heaven, everybody, 00:17:36.38\00:17:39.39 but the Bible says, 00:17:39.42\00:17:42.16 few there be that find it if that is true. 00:17:42.19\00:17:47.30 And if the doctrine of the immortality of the soul 00:17:47.33\00:17:50.50 is true, 00:17:50.53\00:17:53.10 then right now there are billions of people 00:17:53.13\00:17:55.90 screaming in hell. 00:17:55.94\00:18:01.68 Think about that. 00:18:01.71\00:18:03.81 People say, "Well, you know, it gives a lot of comfort 00:18:03.85\00:18:06.15 to my heart to believe it." 00:18:06.18\00:18:08.05 No, no, no. 00:18:08.08\00:18:09.55 What sort of God would that be? 00:18:09.58\00:18:12.32 So there's nobody in purgatory, there's nobody in hell, 00:18:12.35\00:18:16.66 there's nobody in limbo, 00:18:16.69\00:18:18.03 there is a judgment day when Christ returns. 00:18:18.06\00:18:22.56 There's gonna be a big fire, God is gonna clean up the mess. 00:18:22.60\00:18:26.70 It's going to be a judgment day. 00:18:26.74\00:18:28.90 But right now, our loved ones are sleeping. 00:18:28.94\00:18:34.18 When I was a boy preacher... 00:18:34.21\00:18:36.58 Oh, just a few years ago. 00:18:36.61\00:18:40.15 A family came to me in Australia 00:18:40.18\00:18:41.68 in the little town of Parkes, 00:18:41.72\00:18:43.69 that's it's on the outer Barcoo where the preachers are few, 00:18:43.72\00:18:47.09 and men of religion are scanty, 00:18:47.12\00:18:49.36 on the path seldom crossed, that's an Australian poem. 00:18:49.39\00:18:53.50 I won't say it all because it wouldn't be appropriate. 00:18:53.53\00:18:56.77 A family came to me 00:18:56.80\00:18:58.40 because these people had come to my meetings 00:18:58.43\00:19:01.54 and this old man, they called him Pops, 00:19:01.57\00:19:03.71 he's a dear old man. 00:19:03.74\00:19:06.78 He passed away and the family came to me 00:19:06.81\00:19:08.84 and they said, 00:19:08.88\00:19:10.21 would you bury Pops 'cause you're a pastor. 00:19:10.25\00:19:12.31 I said of course I will. 00:19:12.35\00:19:14.05 And then they brought along their sons, 00:19:14.08\00:19:16.69 this is true story. 00:19:16.72\00:19:19.85 The sons opened up their wallets, 00:19:19.89\00:19:22.32 and took out thousands of dollars, 00:19:22.36\00:19:25.76 they put it down on my desk, and they said pray for Pops 00:19:25.79\00:19:29.66 so he will get out of purgatory. 00:19:29.70\00:19:35.17 What sort of God would he be 00:19:35.20\00:19:38.34 that you could pay him off? 00:19:38.37\00:19:42.31 What are you talking about? 00:19:42.34\00:19:44.11 You mean to say 00:19:44.15\00:19:45.48 that if you pay money to the church, 00:19:45.51\00:19:48.18 God's gonna let somebody out of hell? 00:19:48.22\00:19:50.49 What sort of God? 00:19:50.52\00:19:53.42 He be more crooked than some modern day politicians. 00:19:53.46\00:19:58.13 Now isn't that the truth? 00:19:58.16\00:20:00.00 Yeah. 00:20:00.03\00:20:01.36 So I told them, Pops died with his faith truly in Christ. 00:20:01.40\00:20:06.97 Living according to the truth of the Bible. 00:20:07.00\00:20:10.67 I said, you don't, I wouldn't take your money, 00:20:10.71\00:20:14.58 that would be an offence to me. 00:20:14.61\00:20:16.41 It would be an offence to God. 00:20:16.44\00:20:18.61 I could not belong to a church 00:20:18.65\00:20:20.78 that took money for praise for the dead. 00:20:20.82\00:20:23.95 I couldn't belong to that. 00:20:23.99\00:20:25.99 I think it's disgusting. 00:20:26.02\00:20:29.82 But I said, "I'll pray for you, and I'll bury the old man. 00:20:29.86\00:20:35.30 And one day by the grace of God, 00:20:35.33\00:20:37.73 you'll see him in heaven because it's going to happen, 00:20:37.77\00:20:43.10 which leads people to this question. 00:20:43.14\00:20:45.04 What about the dying thief? 00:20:45.07\00:20:47.28 Come over here to Luke 23, Matthew, Mark, Luke, 00:20:47.31\00:20:51.91 'cause this troubles some people, 00:20:51.95\00:20:53.45 the dying thief, 00:20:53.48\00:20:55.28 Luke 23 00:20:55.32\00:20:58.52 :39-43. 00:20:58.55\00:21:04.89 "Then one of the criminals 00:21:04.93\00:21:06.26 who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, 00:21:06.29\00:21:08.30 "If You are the Christ save yourself and us." 00:21:08.33\00:21:10.63 But the other answering, rebuked him saying, 00:21:10.67\00:21:14.60 'Do you not even fear God 00:21:14.64\00:21:15.97 seeing you are under the same condemnation? 00:21:16.00\00:21:18.47 And we indeed justly, before we received 00:21:18.51\00:21:20.64 the due reward of our deeds, 00:21:20.68\00:21:22.54 but this Man has done nothing wrong." 00:21:22.58\00:21:24.98 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me 00:21:25.01\00:21:28.75 when You come into Your kingdom." 00:21:28.78\00:21:30.29 And Jesus said to him, "Assured, I say to you come, 00:21:30.32\00:21:34.32 today you will be with me in Paradise." 00:21:34.36\00:21:37.63 That text seems to teach 00:21:37.66\00:21:41.60 that Jesus and the thief went to Paradise that day. 00:21:41.63\00:21:45.57 Now I will show you 00:21:45.60\00:21:47.97 an apparent contradiction in the Bible. 00:21:48.00\00:21:50.54 Come over here to John 20:17, 00:21:50.57\00:21:54.38 John 20:17 and this describes 00:21:54.41\00:21:58.45 what happened on the day of the resurrection. 00:21:58.48\00:22:01.18 John 20:17, three days after the Friday 00:22:01.22\00:22:05.85 John 20:17, 00:22:05.89\00:22:07.66 "Jesus said to her, He is talking to Mary, 00:22:07.69\00:22:10.56 "Do not cling to me 00:22:10.59\00:22:11.99 for I have not yet to ascended to my father, 00:22:12.03\00:22:14.56 but go to my brother and say to them 00:22:14.60\00:22:16.50 "I 'm ascending to My Father and your God, 00:22:16.53\00:22:18.97 and to My God and your God." 00:22:19.00\00:22:20.84 Listen, you get it? 00:22:20.87\00:22:24.17 On the Sunday Jesus said, "I haven't been to Paradise, 00:22:24.21\00:22:29.61 said I haven't been there yet." 00:22:29.64\00:22:32.68 So there's a conflict, listen. 00:22:32.71\00:22:38.19 The Bible is a inspired Word of God 00:22:38.22\00:22:41.96 but in the original there are no punctuation marks, 00:22:41.99\00:22:45.79 the commas were placed by the translators 00:22:45.83\00:22:49.36 who believed in the immortality of the soul, 00:22:49.40\00:22:52.37 therefore this text can read this 00:22:52.40\00:22:55.94 "Assuredly, I say to you, 00:22:55.97\00:22:57.84 today you will be with Me in Paradise." 00:22:57.87\00:23:00.61 You see where the comma is? 00:23:00.64\00:23:03.68 Or else it can say this, 00:23:03.71\00:23:06.51 "Assuredly, I say to you today, 00:23:06.55\00:23:11.49 you will be with me in Paradise." 00:23:11.52\00:23:13.86 The thief didn't go that day home. 00:23:17.86\00:23:22.16 He was still alive probably live for another week, 00:23:22.20\00:23:26.00 and Jesus didn't go that day, 00:23:26.03\00:23:30.34 but one day that thief will be with Christ in Paradise 00:23:30.37\00:23:36.98 like Sammy Tannahill. 00:23:37.01\00:23:39.51 Have you heard of him? 00:23:39.55\00:23:41.38 He is a terrible criminal. 00:23:41.42\00:23:43.75 Sammy Tannahill had murdered many, many people. 00:23:43.79\00:23:49.06 He was going to die in the electric chair. 00:23:49.09\00:23:51.89 There is the man, Sammy Tannahill. 00:23:51.93\00:23:56.36 A pastor visited him and gave him a Bible. 00:23:56.40\00:23:58.60 Sammy started to read it, and read it. 00:23:58.63\00:24:03.61 He read it for three days, and three nights 00:24:03.64\00:24:05.61 and couldn't sleep. 00:24:05.64\00:24:07.14 And in the end he got down beside his bed, 00:24:07.18\00:24:09.01 he said God forgive me for every sin in the book 00:24:09.04\00:24:11.78 because I've broken them all. 00:24:11.81\00:24:14.88 And then he was taken 00:24:14.92\00:24:16.25 and put in the electrical chair, 00:24:16.28\00:24:18.69 and the pastor stood in front of him 00:24:18.72\00:24:20.99 and said Sammy have you got anything to say, 00:24:21.02\00:24:23.46 he said only this 00:24:23.49\00:24:25.49 that I have put my life in the hands of Christ, 00:24:25.53\00:24:30.20 and I have asked God to forgive my sins. 00:24:30.23\00:24:32.90 And the pastor let him in saying the Lord's prayer 00:24:32.93\00:24:35.67 and as they were praying, 00:24:35.70\00:24:37.57 they turned on the electricity 00:24:37.61\00:24:43.55 and Sammy fell asleep, 00:24:43.58\00:24:46.38 and he will be with Christ in Paradise 00:24:46.41\00:24:49.88 and so will you be. 00:24:49.92\00:24:52.85 We do not believe that the Bible teaches 00:24:52.89\00:24:55.32 a monstrous doctrine of the immortality of the soul. 00:24:55.36\00:24:59.63 We believe in the resurrection of Christ, 00:24:59.66\00:25:03.37 and we believe 00:25:03.40\00:25:04.97 in the resurrection of God's people. 00:25:05.00\00:25:09.97 Remember the text that God so loved the world. 00:25:10.01\00:25:14.58 So if you believe in Him, you will not perish, 00:25:14.61\00:25:19.01 but you will have everlasting life 00:25:19.05\00:25:22.22 in the resurrection when Jesus comes. 00:25:22.25\00:25:27.06 Amen. 00:25:27.09\00:25:28.59 Now, I just want to do something. 00:25:28.62\00:25:31.86 I want to dedicate this program today, 00:25:31.89\00:25:35.76 and we're gonna put this in the program. 00:25:35.80\00:25:39.10 We lovingly dedicate this program today 00:25:39.13\00:25:42.87 to the memory of my great friend, 00:25:42.90\00:25:49.14 and your great friend, Dr. Graeme Bradford. 00:25:49.18\00:25:54.72 And as I said at his funeral service, 00:25:54.75\00:25:57.62 Graeme rest in peace, 00:25:57.65\00:26:03.59 rise in glory. 00:26:03.63\00:26:04.99 Amen. 00:26:05.03\00:26:06.39 And all the people said amen and amen. 00:26:06.43\00:26:11.33 For a copy of today's program, please contact us 00:28:18.96\00:28:22.13 at P.O. 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