Hello, friend, I am John Carter just back from Ukraine, 00:00:01.33\00:00:04.47 where for the glory of God, 00:00:04.50\00:00:05.93 we had the largest Christian baptism 00:00:05.97\00:00:09.14 in the history of the nation. 00:00:09.17\00:00:11.54 That was back a few years ago. 00:00:11.57\00:00:13.44 But I'm going to tell you today the real situation, 00:00:13.48\00:00:17.51 the inside story, 00:00:17.55\00:00:19.58 of what is happening today in Ukraine. 00:00:19.61\00:00:23.25 Welcome to the Ukrainian Experience. 00:00:23.28\00:00:26.59 I am John Carter. Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:00:26.62\00:00:29.79 Hello friend, I'm John Carter in Moscow. 00:00:32.43\00:00:35.96 I'm standing here 00:00:36.00\00:00:37.33 at the very center of the Russian nation. 00:00:37.40\00:00:39.87 I'm in Red Square. 00:00:39.90\00:00:41.77 Behind me is St. Basil's Cathedral. 00:00:41.80\00:00:45.31 And over here is the Kremlin. 00:00:45.34\00:00:48.21 It's amazing, I'm able to talk to you 00:00:48.24\00:00:51.18 from Red Square today. 00:00:51.21\00:00:52.85 This is by the grace of God. 00:00:52.88\00:00:55.48 I'm here today to preach 00:00:55.52\00:00:56.92 the everlasting gospel of Christ. 00:00:56.95\00:00:59.75 I first came here in 1991. 00:00:59.79\00:01:04.03 It was my privilege 00:01:04.06\00:01:05.39 to run the first ever evangelistic campaign 00:01:05.43\00:01:09.90 in the old Soviet Union. 00:01:09.93\00:01:12.03 And we saw thousands of people come to Christ. 00:01:12.07\00:01:16.04 I've been back here 43 times. 00:01:16.07\00:01:20.04 We have run campaigns right across Russia 00:01:20.08\00:01:23.41 and all around Ukraine. 00:01:23.45\00:01:26.38 We've seen millions of people come to our meetings 00:01:26.41\00:01:30.45 and hundreds of thousands of people come to Christ. 00:01:30.49\00:01:34.59 I'm asking you today 00:01:34.62\00:01:36.39 to continue to support the work of God 00:01:36.42\00:01:39.83 here in the lands of the former Soviet Union. 00:01:39.86\00:01:44.10 The need is greater than ever before. 00:01:44.13\00:01:48.14 In the name of Jesus, please write to me, 00:01:48.17\00:01:52.01 John Carter, Po Box 1900, 00:01:52.04\00:01:55.84 Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 00:01:55.88\00:01:59.28 In Australia, 00:01:59.31\00:02:00.85 please write to me at the address at Terrigal. 00:02:00.92\00:02:06.12 I've been taking meetings the last few days. 00:02:06.15\00:02:08.12 And from here, I go on to Ukraine 00:02:08.16\00:02:11.86 to preach the gospel of Christ. 00:02:11.89\00:02:14.36 Thank you for your magnificent support. 00:02:14.40\00:02:18.23 Please write to me today. 00:02:18.27\00:02:20.34 And I want to say to you in the name of Jesus, 00:02:20.40\00:02:23.97 thank you, thank you and thank you. 00:02:24.01\00:02:27.74 Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:02:33.38\00:02:35.58 We're talking today about Ukraine. 00:02:35.62\00:02:38.42 And what's going on in that nation. 00:02:38.45\00:02:41.29 They're sort of being torn to pieces 00:02:41.32\00:02:43.26 because of the war. 00:02:43.29\00:02:45.16 I'm so glad to have with me today, 00:02:45.19\00:02:47.00 my wife Beverley. 00:02:47.03\00:02:48.66 Beverley, welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:02:48.70\00:02:51.67 Thank you for having me here. 00:02:51.70\00:02:53.77 You've been my partner in this great work 00:02:53.80\00:02:55.60 for many, many years. 00:02:55.64\00:02:58.44 Do you remember the great campaign 00:02:58.47\00:03:00.18 we had in Ukraine? 00:03:00.21\00:03:01.54 I certainly do. 00:03:01.58\00:03:02.91 Kiev, it was such an exciting time. 00:03:02.94\00:03:05.71 As always we advertise on T.V. 00:03:05.75\00:03:08.18 for a couple of weeks before the actual program begins. 00:03:08.22\00:03:11.72 And because of that, 00:03:11.75\00:03:13.09 we had thousands of people coming to the meetings. 00:03:13.12\00:03:15.76 An actual fact, they told us, now we didn't go out 00:03:15.79\00:03:18.96 and count one by one ourselves, but we were told 00:03:18.99\00:03:21.90 that there were about 100,000 people 00:03:21.93\00:03:24.40 outside the Palace of Sport trying to get in. 00:03:24.43\00:03:27.64 That's what the government said. 00:03:27.67\00:03:29.30 Yeah, and there were so many people 00:03:29.34\00:03:31.11 they had to stop the train from running 00:03:31.14\00:03:33.84 that which was nearby the Palace of Sport, 00:03:33.88\00:03:36.11 so that normal people could come. 00:03:36.14\00:03:38.18 But that, that was just something, 00:03:38.21\00:03:39.65 it was the hand of God. 00:03:39.68\00:03:41.42 And it was amazing. 00:03:41.45\00:03:42.78 Now, this is going to test your memory, Beverley, 00:03:42.82\00:03:44.95 which I'm sure is better than mine. 00:03:44.99\00:03:47.62 Do you remember the turmoil that shook the nation 00:03:47.66\00:03:51.33 as we commenced those meetings? 00:03:51.36\00:03:53.70 Well, because of the television ads 00:03:53.76\00:03:56.90 that brought the attention 00:03:56.93\00:03:58.27 and all the newspapers were talking about it. 00:03:58.30\00:04:00.84 And of course, this in turn upset the Orthodox Church, 00:04:00.87\00:04:05.44 which wanted to prevent the meetings. 00:04:05.47\00:04:08.11 And in the video which we have just shown, 00:04:08.14\00:04:11.05 you were there on the streets of the bishop 00:04:11.08\00:04:13.92 who actually said, "These meetings will not take place, 00:04:13.95\00:04:17.95 only over my dead body. 00:04:17.99\00:04:19.85 And you can tell that story 00:04:19.89\00:04:21.26 because you were actually there. 00:04:21.29\00:04:22.76 Yeah, yeah that was not a good thing he said. 00:04:22.79\00:04:24.33 No, it wasn't. 00:04:24.36\00:04:25.69 He said, "The meetings will go ahead 00:04:25.73\00:04:27.03 only over my dead body." 00:04:27.10\00:04:29.13 And in the video that we've shown, 00:04:29.16\00:04:30.83 that's exactly what happened, it was over his dead body. 00:04:30.87\00:04:34.44 But those meetings went ahead for the glory of God. 00:04:34.47\00:04:37.81 And, Beverley, you remember because you were there. 00:04:37.84\00:04:41.44 We had the largest baptism 00:04:41.48\00:04:43.65 in the history of the Ukrainian nation 00:04:43.71\00:04:46.28 when 3,500 precious souls were baptized 00:04:46.31\00:04:49.82 in the cold polluted waters of the Dneiper River. 00:04:49.85\00:04:54.42 Glory be to God, what days. 00:04:54.46\00:04:56.36 Now, you've just come back as you said, 00:04:56.39\00:04:58.26 can you tell us how the believers are doing? 00:04:58.29\00:05:01.06 When I go back, 00:05:01.10\00:05:02.43 and I've been to these countries 00:05:02.46\00:05:03.80 now 43 times. 00:05:03.87\00:05:05.20 You've been dozens and dozens of times. 00:05:05.23\00:05:08.64 You've been tremendously faithful. 00:05:08.67\00:05:10.91 When I go back, my heart is just about torn out of my chest 00:05:10.94\00:05:16.38 because of the love and the, 00:05:16.41\00:05:20.05 the emotion that is generated, when I go to these places. 00:05:20.12\00:05:25.82 I go to their churches now that we help to establish. 00:05:25.85\00:05:29.26 I meet with thousands and thousands of people 00:05:29.29\00:05:33.19 that we baptized. 00:05:33.23\00:05:35.00 A beautiful young people, old people, 00:05:35.03\00:05:39.10 I'm just overwhelmed and I just want to say to our supporters, 00:05:39.13\00:05:43.24 who are watching the telecast. 00:05:43.27\00:05:44.94 Under God, you made it possible. 00:05:44.97\00:05:48.58 Now, we may not agree 00:05:48.61\00:05:49.94 with the policies of the Russian government 00:05:50.01\00:05:52.01 or the policies of the Ukrainian government, 00:05:52.05\00:05:54.32 that doesn't matter. 00:05:54.35\00:05:55.72 We go for the saving of souls 00:05:55.75\00:05:59.29 and you my dear, friend, made it possible. 00:05:59.32\00:06:02.69 And you hope to make it possible to, Beverley. 00:06:02.72\00:06:04.96 Now, you were telling me 00:06:04.99\00:06:06.33 that we have a shortage of churches. 00:06:06.36\00:06:08.90 Now, tell us about that, how some of the people 00:06:08.93\00:06:10.87 have to worship in these very difficult situations. 00:06:10.90\00:06:14.74 When I would say, it was cold. 00:06:14.77\00:06:16.50 Now, I know we don't live in, we live in Southern California, 00:06:16.54\00:06:19.67 we don't know whatever cold is. 00:06:19.71\00:06:21.38 If the gate stand are freezing here, 00:06:21.41\00:06:22.94 we think it's, you know terrible. 00:06:22.98\00:06:25.78 But when I left Kiev just a few days ago, 00:06:25.81\00:06:29.98 it was minus 18 degrees. 00:06:30.02\00:06:33.59 When I was speaking out of doors in Russia, 00:06:33.66\00:06:36.42 only two weeks ago it was minus 25. 00:06:36.46\00:06:40.80 Your eyes freeze over 00:06:40.83\00:06:44.13 and saliva runs from your mouth 00:06:44.17\00:06:47.77 then it turns into a ice. 00:06:47.80\00:06:50.07 And instead of articulating clearly I ended up. 00:06:50.11\00:06:54.98 And anybody would where you find it hard, 00:06:55.01\00:06:58.15 you find it hard to talk because you're freezing. 00:06:58.18\00:07:03.18 Can you imagine worshiping in a church? 00:07:03.22\00:07:05.85 No, no, I'm sorry, it's not a church. 00:07:05.89\00:07:08.76 Because in Russia and Ukraine, 00:07:08.79\00:07:10.66 most of our believers don't have churches. 00:07:10.69\00:07:13.96 Why is that? Why don't we have more churches? 00:07:14.00\00:07:17.37 Well, you tell me? 00:07:17.40\00:07:18.73 They don't have churches, they don't have the money. 00:07:18.77\00:07:20.67 Now, there are some people who are tremendously wealthy. 00:07:20.74\00:07:23.71 But as David pointed out to me an obvious truth, 00:07:23.74\00:07:28.18 our people, 00:07:28.21\00:07:30.85 the middle class are poor. 00:07:30.88\00:07:36.22 There, a lot of them are almost starving to death. 00:07:36.25\00:07:39.12 They don't have churches. 00:07:39.15\00:07:41.26 Now, we have helped to build some beautiful churches. 00:07:41.29\00:07:44.43 Our supporters helped the Carter Report 00:07:44.46\00:07:46.80 to build some magnificent churches 00:07:46.83\00:07:49.10 which is centuries of hope in those desolate lands. 00:07:49.13\00:07:54.00 Do you think this is one of the reasons 00:07:54.04\00:07:55.77 we lose some people 00:07:55.80\00:07:58.41 because of that, they're sitting at homes? 00:07:58.44\00:08:00.61 Let me tell you what the pastor told me. 00:08:00.64\00:08:03.08 He said, they rent, not churches, 00:08:03.11\00:08:06.58 they rent buildings, movie theaters, they're creped. 00:08:06.61\00:08:10.32 We've been in these dirty old holes, and he said, 00:08:10.35\00:08:13.89 "It was minus 10 outside on this Sabbath morning. 00:08:13.92\00:08:17.26 And it was minus 10 inside the building." 00:08:17.29\00:08:21.23 Our believers are sitting in a building 00:08:21.26\00:08:23.97 that is minus 10 degrees. 00:08:24.00\00:08:26.63 And then the electricity went off. 00:08:26.67\00:08:29.47 He said to me, "The power failed." 00:08:29.50\00:08:31.34 He said, I was sitting there in total blackness. 00:08:31.37\00:08:35.44 It amazes me that anyone stays. 00:08:35.48\00:08:36.98 How many Americans, how many Australians would go to church 00:08:37.05\00:08:43.08 even inside the building, it was minus 10 degrees, 00:08:43.12\00:08:46.29 and they had no electricity. 00:08:46.32\00:08:48.39 It was in total blackness. 00:08:48.42\00:08:52.33 Now, we need in Australia 00:08:52.36\00:08:55.93 and in this great land of America, 00:08:55.96\00:08:58.07 where we are privileged to live. 00:08:58.10\00:09:01.64 We need to help the struggling church 00:09:01.67\00:09:05.27 in Russia and Ukraine. 00:09:05.31\00:09:07.41 And don't say to me, you know, the government is bad. 00:09:07.44\00:09:11.35 We're not interested in the government. 00:09:11.38\00:09:14.48 We're not interested in the politics. 00:09:14.52\00:09:17.02 We're interested in the souls of the people. 00:09:17.05\00:09:19.95 Just imagine, if Jesus said, 00:09:19.99\00:09:21.82 "I'm not going to go down to that planet, 00:09:21.86\00:09:23.36 because I don't like the Roman government." 00:09:23.39\00:09:26.36 We all would have gone to hell. 00:09:26.39\00:09:28.73 Jesus came to seek and to save the lost, 00:09:28.76\00:09:31.43 and He came into hostile territory. 00:09:31.47\00:09:36.54 And therefore, we need to be doing more 00:09:36.57\00:09:40.38 to give these people sanctuaries of hope. 00:09:40.41\00:09:44.61 I agree, and I've always felt 00:09:44.65\00:09:46.61 and I know other people feel the same way 00:09:46.65\00:09:49.08 that when you go to these places. 00:09:49.12\00:09:51.02 And you see the needs and you come back home 00:09:51.05\00:09:53.76 to such wonderful countries that we live in. 00:09:53.79\00:09:55.69 Yeah, we are blessed. 00:09:55.72\00:09:57.06 And you think, you know, why were they born there? 00:09:57.13\00:09:59.63 Why was I born here? 00:09:59.66\00:10:01.16 And that's, and the reason, you know, we don't know why. 00:10:01.20\00:10:04.83 But I do know that as Christians 00:10:04.87\00:10:07.10 we have a responsibility to help those people 00:10:07.14\00:10:10.57 that live in other places. 00:10:10.61\00:10:12.47 Beverley, last Sunday I think it was, 00:10:12.51\00:10:16.58 the believers took me to a building that we can buy. 00:10:16.61\00:10:21.45 We're gonna run video of this. I want the folks to see this. 00:10:21.48\00:10:25.19 We can buy this. 00:10:25.22\00:10:26.55 We can make it a sanctuary for three churches. 00:10:26.59\00:10:29.72 Get these people out of minus 10 degrees. 00:10:29.76\00:10:32.76 Get them into a place where the children can come, 00:10:32.79\00:10:35.23 where the old women can come. 00:10:35.26\00:10:36.90 Where the young people can come. 00:10:36.93\00:10:39.07 We can buy it for $350,000. 00:10:39.10\00:10:42.60 Well, that's not so much. 00:10:42.64\00:10:44.57 It's a lot if you don't have. To us in America. 00:10:44.61\00:10:46.91 No, but it's a lot if you don't have it. 00:10:46.94\00:10:49.04 I'm just appealing to our people, 00:10:49.08\00:10:51.01 who are watching the telecast. 00:10:51.05\00:10:52.88 Help us in the name of God, to provide a sanctuary of hope 00:10:52.91\00:10:58.09 for, for our believers in the former Soviet Union. 00:10:58.12\00:11:01.89 Some of them are worshipping in church, not churches, 00:11:01.92\00:11:04.63 but in buildings were it's-- 00:11:04.66\00:11:07.30 Beverley he told me, "Minus 10." 00:11:07.30\00:11:11.17 I spoke out of doors, where it's minus 10. 00:11:11.20\00:11:15.14 I went to church in Russia 00:11:15.17\00:11:16.91 when one, one day, it was minus 25. 00:11:16.97\00:11:20.84 Yeah, that's cold. 00:11:20.88\00:11:23.31 You and I would freeze. 00:11:23.35\00:11:24.68 Thank God, 3 ABN in Russia, 00:11:24.71\00:11:28.68 established the Christian Cultural Center. 00:11:28.72\00:11:32.35 Thank God for the vision of Danny Shelton. 00:11:32.39\00:11:36.32 They've got a church there now, and I preached in that church. 00:11:36.36\00:11:40.36 More than a thousand people there, 00:11:40.40\00:11:43.90 all these beautiful young people. 00:11:43.93\00:11:46.67 By the grace of God, we must be the servants of Christ, 00:11:46.70\00:11:52.67 and we must seek to save that which was lost. 00:11:52.71\00:11:56.71 Yeah, well, as you often say, God blesses us, 00:11:56.78\00:11:59.11 so that we can bless others. 00:11:59.15\00:12:00.55 Yes. 00:12:00.62\00:12:01.95 And we take with one hand, 00:12:01.98\00:12:03.32 but we give with the other hand, 00:12:03.35\00:12:04.69 that's why God gave us two hands. 00:12:04.72\00:12:06.39 Yes, let me try to answer your question. 00:12:06.42\00:12:09.06 You asked me why do people leave the church. 00:12:09.09\00:12:12.66 Well, we know there are many reasons 00:12:12.69\00:12:14.10 why people leave the church. 00:12:14.10\00:12:16.87 But I have returned to Russia 00:12:16.93\00:12:18.87 and you've gone with me most of the occasions. 00:12:18.90\00:12:20.90 I've gone back 43 times. 00:12:20.94\00:12:23.27 Because I don't believe in evangelism 00:12:23.30\00:12:26.21 that just goes to a place and makes a big noise. 00:12:26.24\00:12:30.71 Takes a lot of pictures, 00:12:30.75\00:12:32.75 comes back and publishes it all in church papers 00:12:32.78\00:12:37.55 and never goes back. 00:12:37.59\00:12:39.69 So, we've run, 00:12:39.72\00:12:42.19 I think we've run 15 or 16 major evangelistic campaigns 00:12:42.22\00:12:47.83 in the former Soviet Union. 00:12:47.86\00:12:49.60 And that's not talking about smaller campaigns 00:12:49.63\00:12:52.17 that only lasted for a week or two. 00:12:52.20\00:12:54.80 But by the grace of God, we keep going back. 00:12:54.84\00:12:58.77 We have not only in evangelistic interest 00:12:58.81\00:13:01.44 in the souls of these people. 00:13:01.48\00:13:03.45 You and I Beverley, 00:13:03.48\00:13:04.81 have a pastoral interest in their souls. 00:13:04.85\00:13:07.45 And that's what it's all about, isn't it? 00:13:07.52\00:13:08.98 To tell them about Jesus. 00:13:09.02\00:13:11.12 And to give them hope for the future. 00:13:11.15\00:13:13.12 Because many of them still don't have a lot of hope. 00:13:13.15\00:13:15.99 There's a lot of wealthy people and they're doing okay. 00:13:16.02\00:13:19.29 But the average person 00:13:19.33\00:13:21.00 still has a battle from day to day. 00:13:21.03\00:13:23.67 And they're the ones we need 00:13:23.73\00:13:25.07 to tell about Jesus to give them hope 00:13:25.10\00:13:26.90 that there is a better future ahead. 00:13:26.94\00:13:29.84 You're watching the Carter Report 00:13:29.87\00:13:31.21 and we're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 00:13:31.24\00:13:34.71 I've just come back from Russia and Ukraine. 00:13:34.74\00:13:38.05 We don't go to these countries, 00:13:38.08\00:13:39.45 because we believe in their governments. 00:13:39.48\00:13:42.15 We go there, because we believe in the gospel of Christ 00:13:42.18\00:13:46.52 and we believe in the people. 00:13:46.55\00:13:49.09 I'm asking you, friend, in the name of Jesus, 00:13:49.12\00:13:51.46 please support this work. 00:13:51.49\00:13:53.76 Help us to build a church. 00:13:53.80\00:13:56.90 I can buy it for 300, I can buy a building for $350,000 now. 00:13:56.93\00:14:03.64 And get our believers in out of the cold 00:14:03.71\00:14:07.38 where they're worshiping in dirty buildings, 00:14:07.41\00:14:10.45 where the temperature is minus 10 degrees. 00:14:10.48\00:14:15.92 Please write to me. 00:14:15.95\00:14:17.85 And we'll be back after this special message. 00:14:17.89\00:14:21.82 I've just come from Russia via Switzerland. 00:14:24.99\00:14:28.23 And I'm now in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. 00:14:28.26\00:14:32.37 This place has got huge memories for me 00:14:32.40\00:14:36.47 because back in '95, we ran a campaign in the city 00:14:36.50\00:14:40.84 and in spite of terrific opposition, 00:14:40.88\00:14:43.85 by the grace of God, we baptized 00:14:43.91\00:14:45.95 3,530 precious souls in the Dneiper River. 00:14:45.98\00:14:52.82 I'm back here today, because I believe 00:14:52.85\00:14:55.82 that we need to take care of the people we baptized. 00:14:55.86\00:14:59.89 I don't believe it's right to baptize people, 00:14:59.96\00:15:03.13 and then to walk away, 00:15:03.16\00:15:05.03 and to leave them literally in the cold. 00:15:05.07\00:15:08.80 When I read my Bible, 00:15:08.84\00:15:10.51 I find where the Apostle Paul went back time after time 00:15:10.54\00:15:15.14 to visit the people that he had baptized. 00:15:15.18\00:15:18.51 And so, I'm back here today, for the 43rd time 00:15:18.55\00:15:23.99 in Russia and Ukraine together to visit the people. 00:15:24.02\00:15:28.26 I'm back here to preach the gospel of Christ. 00:15:28.29\00:15:31.36 I'm back here to explain the word of God. 00:15:31.39\00:15:34.00 And let these people know that they are not forgotten 00:15:34.00\00:15:37.83 and never will be forgotten. 00:15:37.87\00:15:41.30 We believe that there's a tremendous opportunity 00:15:41.34\00:15:45.61 for the preaching of the gospel of Christ 00:15:45.64\00:15:48.54 in this part of the world. 00:15:48.58\00:15:50.71 The soul hunger still exists. 00:15:50.75\00:15:54.92 And the Carter Report has got a goal 00:15:54.95\00:15:58.25 to take the gospel of Christ to the people of Russia 00:15:58.29\00:16:02.29 and the people of Ukraine. 00:16:02.32\00:16:04.63 I just want to say to you dear friend. 00:16:04.66\00:16:07.03 My heart is overwhelmed with thankfulness 00:16:07.03\00:16:10.27 for your magnificent support. 00:16:10.30\00:16:12.30 Thank you in Jesus name. 00:16:12.33\00:16:15.00 Welcome back to the Carter Report. 00:16:25.88\00:16:27.85 We're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 00:16:27.88\00:16:31.55 I've just come back from an extended visit 00:16:31.59\00:16:34.36 to Russia and Ukraine. 00:16:34.39\00:16:37.13 So glad to have you with me, Beverley. 00:16:37.16\00:16:39.29 You're such a great blessing to this ministry 00:16:39.33\00:16:42.43 and to the people of Russia and Ukraine. 00:16:42.46\00:16:45.57 Do you remember what happened at Chernobyl? 00:16:45.60\00:16:49.47 Well, I wasn't actually there when the disaster happened 00:16:49.50\00:16:53.38 but we were there not long after. 00:16:53.44\00:16:56.04 And when we were in Kiev, 00:16:56.08\00:16:58.05 I met with one of our young pastors 00:16:58.08\00:17:00.75 who pastored the church just outside of Chernobyl, 00:17:00.78\00:17:04.22 there was of course a big perimeter around it. 00:17:04.25\00:17:07.09 But outside of that people were still living. 00:17:07.12\00:17:09.86 It was still dangerous. 00:17:09.89\00:17:11.29 Dangerously high in its radiation. 00:17:11.33\00:17:13.86 Hell hole. 00:17:13.93\00:17:15.23 And he s looks sickly and I said to him, 00:17:15.26\00:17:16.67 you know how's your health? 00:17:16.70\00:17:18.03 And he said, it's not good and my doctor has told me, 00:17:18.07\00:17:21.37 he was only young I'd say probably in his 30s. 00:17:21.40\00:17:24.57 He said that, "My doctor has told me, 00:17:24.61\00:17:26.41 if I want to have a long life that I need to leave." 00:17:26.44\00:17:29.28 And I said, "Well, why don't you leave?" 00:17:29.31\00:17:31.05 And he said, "How can I leave the people?" 00:17:31.08\00:17:33.05 He said, "I can't." He said, "These are my people. 00:17:33.08\00:17:36.35 If they have lost everything and they have no money to move 00:17:36.38\00:17:40.06 so I will stay with them." 00:17:40.09\00:17:42.36 And unfortunately I mean, I don't know 00:17:42.39\00:17:44.79 whether he is still alive but I probably, I doubt it. 00:17:44.83\00:17:47.50 I'll never forget him, 00:17:47.50\00:17:48.83 because he brought a bus load of people 00:17:48.86\00:17:50.53 every night to the Kiev campaign. 00:17:50.57\00:17:53.40 As you know, we baptized glory be to God, 00:17:53.44\00:17:55.60 3,500 people in that campaign. 00:17:55.64\00:17:59.67 We had so many people come to the meeting 00:17:59.71\00:18:02.31 you know, 100,000 turned away. 00:18:02.34\00:18:04.71 But, let's get back to Chernobyl. 00:18:04.75\00:18:07.18 Can you tell me about the babies? 00:18:07.25\00:18:10.45 Yes, well, the young pastor took me to children's hospital 00:18:10.52\00:18:15.39 and an orphanage. 00:18:15.42\00:18:16.96 Close again to the perimeter, just outside the perimeter, 00:18:16.99\00:18:20.33 where people could still live which they shouldn't have been 00:18:20.36\00:18:22.73 but they still were. 00:18:22.76\00:18:24.50 And I was taken into this round room 00:18:24.53\00:18:27.70 I'll never forget it. 00:18:27.74\00:18:30.04 In most of the orphanages and hospitals 00:18:30.11\00:18:32.17 that I visited in every city that we went to, 00:18:32.21\00:18:35.31 they were clean and usually quite well looked after 00:18:35.34\00:18:38.98 even they were in great need of medications 00:18:39.01\00:18:41.15 and other supplies. 00:18:41.18\00:18:42.52 But this one, it had a round table 00:18:42.55\00:18:45.89 and I could hear the babies were moaning and crying. 00:18:45.92\00:18:51.26 And it was just so sad, 00:18:51.29\00:18:53.06 and there was a stench in this room 00:18:53.09\00:18:55.26 that I'll never forget. 00:18:55.30\00:18:56.63 Goodness. 00:18:56.67\00:18:58.00 And, the lady with me, the director, she said, 00:18:58.03\00:19:00.40 "These babies all have some kind of brain damage" 00:19:00.47\00:19:04.14 because of the radiation that have had affected the parents. 00:19:04.17\00:19:07.71 And there was nothing they could do for them. 00:19:07.74\00:19:10.58 And in that, at that time I mean I don't know, 00:19:10.61\00:19:13.75 whether things have gotten any better. 00:19:13.78\00:19:15.92 But that was, you know, very bad then. 00:19:15.95\00:19:18.82 So, then I went, they took me over to the orphanage. 00:19:18.85\00:19:21.99 And where a lot of the children that were young ones too 00:19:22.02\00:19:26.26 who had heart defects and other defects 00:19:26.29\00:19:30.77 because of the radiation from their parents. 00:19:30.80\00:19:34.44 And when I got back to the hotel that night 00:19:34.47\00:19:36.50 I told you about what I had seen here. 00:19:36.54\00:19:39.17 And we both decided when we got back to the States 00:19:39.21\00:19:42.18 we said, "We're going to try to do something 00:19:42.21\00:19:44.61 to help this orphanage and this hospital." 00:19:44.65\00:19:47.65 And so we got back to the States. 00:19:47.68\00:19:49.58 And we had some good friends in Oregon. 00:19:49.62\00:19:52.15 And they had contact with some hospitals, 00:19:52.19\00:19:56.49 and pharmaceutical companies, and together, 00:19:56.52\00:20:00.10 we were able to get 24,000 pounds worth of medications 00:20:00.13\00:20:05.27 and medical supplies. 00:20:05.30\00:20:07.04 But then of course, we thought well, 00:20:07.10\00:20:08.44 how do we get them to Kiev. 00:20:08.47\00:20:10.17 And in defense they also had some contacts 00:20:10.21\00:20:13.11 with the U.S. military. 00:20:13.14\00:20:15.21 And so they contacted the U.S. military, 00:20:15.24\00:20:18.05 the air force, and a message came back to us. 00:20:18.08\00:20:20.48 "Well, if you can get permission 00:20:20.52\00:20:21.92 to land in Ukraine in Kiev" 00:20:21.95\00:20:23.99 because it hadn't done before. 00:20:24.05\00:20:25.39 Asking us. Then we'll go. 00:20:25.42\00:20:27.26 The U.S. Air Force asking us? Yeah, asking us. 00:20:27.32\00:20:29.72 And then I think, you know the rest of the story 00:20:29.76\00:20:31.49 because you helped to get permission. 00:20:31.53\00:20:34.00 Well, we got permission, for the first ever landing 00:20:34.03\00:20:38.40 since communism 00:20:38.43\00:20:40.37 of a U.S. military aircraft in Ukraine. 00:20:40.40\00:20:44.37 It was a Hercules. It was amazing, a miracle. 00:20:44.41\00:20:47.74 And a huge plane and the staff, 00:20:47.78\00:20:50.61 the captain and all of those Americans 00:20:50.68\00:20:53.28 were mighty ambassadors for God and for the nation. 00:20:53.35\00:20:59.35 And they brought over, what was it 24,000. 00:20:59.39\00:21:01.72 24,000 pounds. 24,000 pounds. 00:21:01.76\00:21:04.56 Now, I couldn't get back... 00:21:04.59\00:21:05.93 For the suffering people. 00:21:05.96\00:21:07.30 But you went back on a commercial flight 00:21:07.30\00:21:08.70 and you were there. 00:21:08.73\00:21:10.07 At the airport, when the plan 00:21:10.13\00:21:12.53 with some of that Kiev dignitaries 00:21:12.57\00:21:15.44 and their church leaders when the Hercules came in. 00:21:15.47\00:21:18.57 This big U.S plane and that was really something worth seeing, 00:21:18.61\00:21:22.08 and I've got some pictures of that. 00:21:22.11\00:21:23.65 Glory be to God. 00:21:23.71\00:21:25.38 Beverley, let me bring you into a dirty little secret. 00:21:25.41\00:21:30.49 I hope it's not too dirty. 00:21:30.55\00:21:32.02 Well, it's dirty in the sense that it's, 00:21:32.05\00:21:37.76 it shows the extent of the awfulness of sin. 00:21:37.79\00:21:42.03 In Russia and Ukraine, 00:21:42.06\00:21:43.50 you've got about one or two percent at the top. 00:21:43.53\00:21:46.97 And they're wealthy, 00:21:47.00\00:21:48.40 they have great motor cars and great homes. 00:21:48.44\00:21:51.61 But the vast majority of the people 00:21:51.64\00:21:54.94 are in poverty. 00:21:54.98\00:21:58.65 So, that's the dirty little secret. 00:21:58.68\00:22:00.35 People don't realize this, they don't realize it 00:22:00.42\00:22:02.72 either the terrible poverty 00:22:02.75\00:22:05.15 that our believers still are even in these countries. 00:22:05.19\00:22:09.12 Yeah. 00:22:09.16\00:22:10.53 And I was talking to a man 00:22:10.56\00:22:11.89 who is running a wonderful Christian outreach in Kiev. 00:22:11.93\00:22:16.16 And he told me, he's got these young people working for him. 00:22:16.20\00:22:19.67 And I said, "How can you pay them? 00:22:19.70\00:22:23.10 He said, "With great difficulty." 00:22:23.14\00:22:26.31 I said, "How much are you paying them?" 00:22:26.34\00:22:28.11 He said, "Some of them $40 a month. 00:22:28.14\00:22:31.31 Some of them $50 a month." 00:22:31.35\00:22:34.08 But when you go down to the supermarket, 00:22:34.12\00:22:36.15 it's like going to America. 00:22:36.18\00:22:38.45 Everything's expensive? 00:22:38.49\00:22:39.82 Yes and so, it's, it's burning in my soul, 00:22:39.85\00:22:43.89 I'm not going to give up on these people 00:22:43.93\00:22:45.59 because God didn't give up on me. 00:22:45.63\00:22:48.00 That's right. 00:22:48.03\00:22:49.36 And I know the poverty, and I know the hunger, 00:22:49.40\00:22:51.90 and I know the awful distress of people 00:22:51.93\00:22:56.77 worshipping in dirty holes, that's how dirty it gets. 00:22:56.84\00:23:01.94 And outside it's minus 10, inside it's minus 10. 00:23:01.98\00:23:06.05 And they've got no electricity. 00:23:06.08\00:23:08.38 And they took me to a place that we can buy 00:23:08.42\00:23:12.09 for three churches for $350,000. 00:23:12.12\00:23:15.76 And so, I say to the people watching in the name of God 00:23:15.79\00:23:18.96 is there not a course. 00:23:18.99\00:23:21.50 As it says in the Bible, "Is it nothing to you, 00:23:21.53\00:23:23.93 or you who passed by." 00:23:23.97\00:23:26.40 We need to do something for our young people 00:23:26.43\00:23:29.64 and the babies. 00:23:29.67\00:23:32.04 Don't worry about these governments, 00:23:32.07\00:23:33.44 these governments may be bad. 00:23:33.48\00:23:35.08 We don't care about the governments. 00:23:35.11\00:23:36.64 We care about the people. 00:23:36.71\00:23:38.05 And that's right. 00:23:38.08\00:23:39.41 And we ask God for help and He-- 00:23:39.45\00:23:40.78 And God never fails. And God is faithful. 00:23:40.82\00:23:44.09 We've run campaigns as you know 00:23:44.15\00:23:46.12 in most of the Great Russian cities, 00:23:46.15\00:23:49.82 also in Kiev, Odessa. 00:23:49.86\00:23:54.83 Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov, 00:23:54.83\00:23:58.10 Zaporizhia, what experience? 00:23:58.13\00:24:02.70 What does it bring into your mind? 00:24:02.74\00:24:04.57 Well, mostly of course, it brings in the people. 00:24:04.61\00:24:07.68 Because once they hear the good message 00:24:07.71\00:24:10.15 that they hear the gospel message, 00:24:10.18\00:24:11.95 it just changes them. 00:24:11.98\00:24:13.62 And these people even though, they haven't got much, 00:24:13.65\00:24:16.79 they're so generous and they're so loving, 00:24:16.82\00:24:19.02 I don't know this is one thing 00:24:19.05\00:24:20.39 that we, we didn't speak about back 00:24:20.46\00:24:23.19 when you were preaching. 00:24:23.22\00:24:25.03 On this, or on the stages they will bring flowers 00:24:25.06\00:24:28.00 by the bucketsful with tulips and roses, 00:24:28.03\00:24:31.80 I love their gardens. 00:24:31.83\00:24:33.70 And they're always full of flowers. 00:24:33.74\00:24:36.37 Now, another thing in Dnipropetrovsk. 00:24:36.40\00:24:39.17 I went to an orphanage there, and I had 300 babies. 00:24:39.21\00:24:43.61 In Kiev, Ukraine and Russia they had their orphanages, 00:24:43.65\00:24:47.98 they would keep the children from, 00:24:48.02\00:24:49.68 right from birth to three, three to six, six and so forth. 00:24:49.72\00:24:52.99 And on this, in this one, they needed a hot water system, 00:24:53.02\00:24:57.43 a sterilizer and some diapers. 00:24:57.49\00:24:59.89 And we were able to help them with that. 00:24:59.96\00:25:01.86 Now, I know you also in Odessa, 00:25:01.90\00:25:04.17 you had something that happened miraculously with a baby. 00:25:04.20\00:25:07.54 Could you tell us about that? They took me to a hospital. 00:25:07.57\00:25:10.21 It's cold, and dark, and damp, and dreary. 00:25:10.24\00:25:13.68 They brought out a little baby boy, 00:25:13.71\00:25:15.18 they said he's going to die in the next few hours. 00:25:15.21\00:25:18.31 And the mother was there, 00:25:18.35\00:25:19.71 and the old Babushkan nurse gave me the baby, 00:25:19.75\00:25:23.82 and the dean Butov was with me 00:25:23.89\00:25:25.32 and we anointed that baby in the name of the Lord. 00:25:25.35\00:25:29.42 And when I went back a little while later, 00:25:29.46\00:25:31.79 I was met by the mother 00:25:31.83\00:25:33.60 and the little baby boy who was then running around. 00:25:33.63\00:25:37.43 Healed by God, Beverley. 00:25:37.47\00:25:40.50 Can I tell you a secret? Yes. 00:25:40.54\00:25:44.07 Here's the secret, just between you and me. 00:25:44.11\00:25:45.77 Don't you folks listen? 00:25:45.81\00:25:47.98 We need to do something for these young people. 00:25:48.01\00:25:51.85 We've seen thousands of young people come to Christ. 00:25:51.88\00:25:56.45 But these young people need desperately spiritual help 00:25:56.48\00:26:00.92 they've asked me to go back 00:26:00.99\00:26:03.59 and run a series of evangelistic meetings, 00:26:03.66\00:26:07.23 especially focused on the needs of young people 00:26:07.30\00:26:13.47 in Russia and Ukraine. 00:26:13.54\00:26:15.40 And they're so eager to workout 00:26:15.44\00:26:16.84 because as you said at 3ABN in Russia 00:26:16.91\00:26:19.61 and then Hope in Ukraine. 00:26:19.64\00:26:21.54 They're mostly young people that are doing the work. 00:26:21.58\00:26:24.45 And the Hope and 3ABN working together over there. 00:26:24.48\00:26:28.48 But I want to say to the people watching the program. 00:26:28.52\00:26:31.75 Listen my, friend, we've got to build sanctuaries of hope. 00:26:31.79\00:26:36.62 Are you listening to me? 00:26:36.66\00:26:38.23 We've get the believers in out of this arctic conditions. 00:26:38.26\00:26:43.13 I can buy a building now 00:26:43.16\00:26:44.87 that will take care of three churches in Kiev. 00:26:44.90\00:26:49.00 It will cost $350,000. 00:26:49.04\00:26:52.14 Please in the name of God help me. 00:26:52.17\00:26:55.78 And something else, 00:26:55.81\00:26:57.51 help us to run a big evangelistic campaign, 00:26:57.55\00:27:00.98 not only for old folks but for the young people. 00:27:01.02\00:27:06.35 The young people, who are becoming mesmerized 00:27:06.39\00:27:09.26 by the lights of the world. 00:27:09.29\00:27:12.43 But I spoke to so many young people, 00:27:12.46\00:27:14.50 I saw their faces, they came to me. 00:27:14.56\00:27:18.57 Please support this work, support the work of God 00:27:18.60\00:27:22.97 in the lands of the former Soviet Union please. 00:27:23.00\00:27:26.04 Write to me, John Carter and Beverly Carter. 00:27:26.07\00:27:29.88 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 00:27:29.91\00:27:35.05 My Aussie friends, I want to hear from you. 00:27:35.08\00:27:38.62 Please write to me John Carter and to my wife Beverley Carter 00:27:38.65\00:27:43.26 at the address in Terrigal. 00:27:43.29\00:27:45.96 Help us to build sanctuaries of hope 00:27:45.99\00:27:49.40 in the former Soviet Union 00:27:49.43\00:27:51.47 and help us to light a gospel fire 00:27:51.50\00:27:55.54 for the salvation of thousands of souls. 00:27:55.57\00:28:00.51 Help us to save the babies. 00:28:00.54\00:28:03.78 Help us to save these beautiful young people. 00:28:03.81\00:28:07.65 Jesus said, "I've come to seek, and to save 00:28:07.68\00:28:12.82 that which was lost." 00:28:12.85\00:28:14.79 Thank you for your partnership in the gospel of Christ. 00:28:14.82\00:28:19.19 God bless you. 00:28:19.23\00:28:20.56