Hello, friend, I am John Carter just back from Ukraine, 00:00:01.36\00:00:04.53 where for the glory of God, 00:00:04.57\00:00:06.00 we had the largest Christian baptism 00:00:06.03\00:00:09.20 in the history of the nation. 00:00:09.24\00:00:11.61 That was back a few years ago. 00:00:11.64\00:00:13.48 But I'm going to tell you today the real situation, 00:00:13.51\00:00:17.58 the inside story, 00:00:17.61\00:00:19.65 of what is happening today in Ukraine. 00:00:19.68\00:00:23.32 Welcome to the Ukrainian Experience. 00:00:23.35\00:00:26.65 I am John Carter. Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:00:26.69\00:00:29.86 Hello friend, I'm John Carter in Moscow. 00:00:32.49\00:00:36.06 I'm standing here 00:00:36.10\00:00:37.43 at the very center of the Russian nation. 00:00:37.47\00:00:39.97 I'm in Red Square. 00:00:40.00\00:00:41.87 Behind me is St. Basil's Cathedral. 00:00:41.90\00:00:45.41 And over here is the Kremlin. 00:00:45.44\00:00:48.31 It's amazing, I'm able to talk to you 00:00:48.34\00:00:51.28 from Red Square today. 00:00:51.31\00:00:52.95 This is by the grace of God. 00:00:52.98\00:00:55.58 I'm here today to preach 00:00:55.62\00:00:56.99 the everlasting gospel of Christ. 00:00:57.02\00:00:59.85 I first came here in 1991. 00:00:59.89\00:01:04.06 It was my privilege 00:01:04.09\00:01:05.43 to run the first ever evangelistic campaign 00:01:05.46\00:01:09.96 in the old Soviet Union. 00:01:10.00\00:01:12.10 And we saw thousands of people come to Christ. 00:01:12.13\00:01:16.10 I've been back here 43 times. 00:01:16.14\00:01:20.11 We have run campaigns right across Russia 00:01:20.14\00:01:23.48 and all around Ukraine. 00:01:23.51\00:01:26.45 We've seen millions of people come to our meetings 00:01:26.48\00:01:30.52 and hundreds of thousands of people come to Christ. 00:01:30.55\00:01:34.66 I'm asking you today 00:01:34.69\00:01:36.46 to continue to support the work of God 00:01:36.49\00:01:39.89 here in the lands of the former Soviet Union. 00:01:39.93\00:01:44.17 The need is greater than ever before. 00:01:44.20\00:01:48.24 In the name of Jesus, please write to me, 00:01:48.27\00:01:52.11 John Carter, Po Box 1900, 00:01:52.14\00:01:55.94 Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 00:01:55.98\00:01:59.38 In Australia, 00:01:59.41\00:02:00.88 please write to me at the address at Terrigal. 00:02:00.92\00:02:06.15 I've been taking meetings the last few days. 00:02:06.19\00:02:08.16 And from here, I go on to Ukraine 00:02:08.19\00:02:11.89 to preach the gospel of Christ. 00:02:11.93\00:02:14.43 Thank you for your magnificent support. 00:02:14.46\00:02:18.30 Please write to me today. 00:02:18.33\00:02:20.40 And I want to say to you in the name of Jesus, 00:02:20.44\00:02:24.01 thank you, thank you and thank you. 00:02:24.04\00:02:27.81 Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:02:33.42\00:02:35.65 We're talking today about Ukraine. 00:02:35.68\00:02:38.49 And what's going on in that nation. 00:02:38.52\00:02:41.36 They're sort of being torn to pieces 00:02:41.39\00:02:43.32 because of the war. 00:02:43.36\00:02:45.23 I'm so glad to have with me today, 00:02:45.26\00:02:47.06 my wife Beverley. 00:02:47.10\00:02:48.76 Beverley, welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:02:48.80\00:02:51.77 Thank you for having me here. 00:02:51.80\00:02:53.84 You've been my partner in this great work 00:02:53.87\00:02:55.70 for many, many years. 00:02:55.74\00:02:58.54 Do you remember the great campaign 00:02:58.57\00:03:00.18 we had in Ukraine? 00:03:00.21\00:03:01.54 I certainly do. 00:03:01.58\00:03:02.91 Kiev, it was such an exciting time. 00:03:02.94\00:03:05.75 As always we advertise on T.V. 00:03:05.78\00:03:08.22 for a couple of weeks before the actual program begins. 00:03:08.25\00:03:11.75 And because of that, 00:03:11.79\00:03:13.12 we had thousands of people coming to the meetings. 00:03:13.15\00:03:15.79 An actual fact, they told us, now we didn't go out 00:03:15.82\00:03:18.99 and count one by one ourselves, but we were told 00:03:19.03\00:03:21.96 that there were about 100,000 people 00:03:22.00\00:03:24.47 outside the Palace of Sport trying to get in. 00:03:24.50\00:03:27.70 That's what the government said. 00:03:27.74\00:03:29.37 Yeah, and there were so many people 00:03:29.40\00:03:31.17 they had to stop the train from running 00:03:31.21\00:03:33.91 that which was nearby the Palace of Sport, 00:03:33.94\00:03:36.18 so that normal people could come. 00:03:36.21\00:03:38.25 But that, that was just something, 00:03:38.28\00:03:39.71 it was the hand of God. 00:03:39.75\00:03:41.48 And it was amazing. 00:03:41.52\00:03:42.85 Now, this is going to test your memory, Beverley, 00:03:42.88\00:03:45.02 which I'm sure is better than mine. 00:03:45.05\00:03:47.66 Do you remember the turmoil that shook the nation 00:03:47.69\00:03:51.39 as we commenced those meetings? 00:03:51.43\00:03:53.76 Well, because of the television ads 00:03:53.80\00:03:57.00 that brought the attention 00:03:57.03\00:03:58.37 and all the newspapers were talking about it. 00:03:58.40\00:04:00.87 And of course, this in turn upset the Orthodox Church, 00:04:00.90\00:04:05.47 which wanted to prevent the meetings. 00:04:05.51\00:04:08.14 And in the video which we have just shown, 00:04:08.18\00:04:11.08 you were there on the streets of the bishop 00:04:11.11\00:04:13.95 who actually said, "These meetings will not take place, 00:04:13.98\00:04:17.99 only over my dead body. 00:04:18.02\00:04:19.89 And you can tell that story 00:04:19.92\00:04:21.29 because you were actually there. 00:04:21.32\00:04:22.79 Yeah, yeah that was not a good thing he said. 00:04:22.82\00:04:24.33 No, it wasn't. 00:04:24.36\00:04:25.69 He said, "The meetings will go ahead 00:04:25.73\00:04:27.06 only over my dead body." 00:04:27.10\00:04:29.20 And in the video that we've shown, 00:04:29.23\00:04:30.87 that's exactly what happened, it was over his dead body. 00:04:30.90\00:04:34.50 But those meetings went ahead for the glory of God. 00:04:34.54\00:04:37.87 And, Beverley, you remember because you were there. 00:04:37.91\00:04:41.51 We had the largest baptism 00:04:41.54\00:04:43.71 in the history of the Ukrainian nation 00:04:43.75\00:04:46.35 when 3,500 precious souls were baptized 00:04:46.38\00:04:49.88 in the cold polluted waters of the Dneiper River. 00:04:49.92\00:04:54.49 Glory be to God, what days. 00:04:54.52\00:04:56.42 Now, you've just come back as you said, 00:04:56.46\00:04:58.33 can you tell us how the believers are doing? 00:04:58.36\00:05:01.10 When I go back, 00:05:01.13\00:05:02.46 and I've been to these countries 00:05:02.50\00:05:03.83 now 43 times. 00:05:03.87\00:05:05.20 You've been dozens and dozens of times. 00:05:05.23\00:05:08.67 You've been tremendously faithful. 00:05:08.70\00:05:10.94 When I go back, my heart is just about torn out of my chest 00:05:10.97\00:05:16.41 because of the love and the, 00:05:16.44\00:05:20.08 the emotion that is generated, when I go to these places. 00:05:20.12\00:05:25.85 I go to their churches now that we help to establish. 00:05:25.89\00:05:29.29 I meet with thousands and thousands of people 00:05:29.32\00:05:33.23 that we baptized. 00:05:33.26\00:05:35.06 A beautiful young people, old people, 00:05:35.10\00:05:39.17 I'm just overwhelmed and I just want to say to our supporters, 00:05:39.20\00:05:43.30 who are watching the telecast. 00:05:43.34\00:05:45.01 Under God, you made it possible. 00:05:45.04\00:05:48.64 Now, we may not agree 00:05:48.68\00:05:50.01 with the policies of the Russian government 00:05:50.05\00:05:52.08 or the policies of the Ukrainian government, 00:05:52.11\00:05:54.38 that doesn't matter. 00:05:54.42\00:05:55.78 We go for the saving of souls 00:05:55.82\00:05:59.35 and you my dear, friend, made it possible. 00:05:59.39\00:06:02.69 And you hope to make it possible to, Beverley. 00:06:02.72\00:06:04.96 Now, you were telling me 00:06:04.99\00:06:06.33 that we have a shortage of churches. 00:06:06.36\00:06:08.93 Now, tell us about that, how some of the people 00:06:08.96\00:06:10.90 have to worship in these very difficult situations. 00:06:10.93\00:06:14.77 When I would say, it was cold. 00:06:14.80\00:06:16.54 Now, I know we don't live in, we live in Southern California, 00:06:16.57\00:06:19.71 we don't know whatever cold is. 00:06:19.74\00:06:21.41 If the gate stand are freezing here, 00:06:21.44\00:06:22.98 we think it's, you know terrible. 00:06:23.01\00:06:25.81 But when I left Kiev just a few days ago, 00:06:25.85\00:06:30.02 it was minus 18 degrees. 00:06:30.05\00:06:33.62 When I was speaking out of doors in Russia, 00:06:33.66\00:06:36.46 only two weeks ago it was minus 25. 00:06:36.49\00:06:40.83 Your eyes freeze over 00:06:40.86\00:06:44.17 and saliva runs from your mouth 00:06:44.20\00:06:47.84 then it turns into a ice. 00:06:47.87\00:06:50.11 And instead of articulating clearly I ended up. 00:06:50.14\00:06:55.04 And anybody would where you find it hard, 00:06:55.08\00:06:58.21 you find it hard to talk because you're freezing. 00:06:58.25\00:07:03.18 Can you imagine worshiping in a church? 00:07:03.22\00:07:05.85 No, no, I'm sorry, it's not a church. 00:07:05.89\00:07:08.76 Because in Russia and Ukraine, 00:07:08.79\00:07:10.66 most of our believers don't have churches. 00:07:10.69\00:07:13.96 Why is that? Why don't we have more churches? 00:07:14.00\00:07:17.40 Well, you tell me? 00:07:17.43\00:07:18.77 They don't have churches, they don't have the money. 00:07:18.80\00:07:20.70 Now, there are some people who are tremendously wealthy. 00:07:20.74\00:07:23.74 But as David pointed out to me an obvious truth, 00:07:23.77\00:07:28.21 our people, 00:07:28.24\00:07:30.88 the middle class are poor. 00:07:30.91\00:07:36.25 There, a lot of them are almost starving to death. 00:07:36.28\00:07:39.15 They don't have churches. 00:07:39.19\00:07:41.29 Now, we have helped to build some beautiful churches. 00:07:41.32\00:07:44.46 Our supporters helped the Carter Report 00:07:44.49\00:07:46.80 to build some magnificent churches 00:07:46.83\00:07:49.16 which is centuries of hope in those desolate lands. 00:07:49.20\00:07:54.04 Do you think this is one of the reasons 00:07:54.07\00:07:55.84 we lose some people 00:07:55.87\00:07:58.47 because of that, they're sitting at homes? 00:07:58.51\00:08:00.58 Let me tell you what the pastor told me. 00:08:00.61\00:08:03.08 He said, they rent, not churches, 00:08:03.11\00:08:06.58 they rent buildings, movie theaters, they're creped. 00:08:06.61\00:08:10.32 We've been in these dirty old holes, and he said, 00:08:10.35\00:08:13.89 "It was minus 10 outside on this Sabbath morning. 00:08:13.92\00:08:17.26 And it was minus 10 inside the building." 00:08:17.29\00:08:21.26 Our believers are sitting in a building 00:08:21.30\00:08:23.97 that is minus 10 degrees. 00:08:24.00\00:08:26.67 And then the electricity went off. 00:08:26.70\00:08:29.50 He said to me, "The power failed." 00:08:29.54\00:08:31.37 He said, I was sitting there in total blackness. 00:08:31.41\00:08:35.48 It amazes me that anyone stays. 00:08:35.51\00:08:37.01 How many Americans, how many Australians would go to church 00:08:37.05\00:08:43.12 even inside the building, it was minus 10 degrees, 00:08:43.15\00:08:46.32 and they had no electricity. 00:08:46.35\00:08:48.42 It was in total blackness. 00:08:48.46\00:08:52.36 Now, we need in Australia 00:08:52.39\00:08:56.00 and in this great land of America, 00:08:56.03\00:08:58.13 where we are privileged to live. 00:08:58.17\00:09:01.64 We need to help the struggling church 00:09:01.67\00:09:05.27 in Russia and Ukraine. 00:09:05.31\00:09:07.38 And don't say to me, you know, the government is bad. 00:09:07.41\00:09:11.35 We're not interested in the government. 00:09:11.38\00:09:14.48 We're not interested in the politics. 00:09:14.52\00:09:17.02 We're interested in the souls of the people. 00:09:17.05\00:09:19.95 Just imagine, if Jesus said, 00:09:19.99\00:09:21.82 "I'm not going to go down to that planet, 00:09:21.86\00:09:23.36 because I don't like the Roman government." 00:09:23.39\00:09:26.36 We all would have gone to hell. 00:09:26.39\00:09:28.76 Jesus came to seek and to save the lost, 00:09:28.80\00:09:31.47 and He came into hostile territory. 00:09:31.50\00:09:36.57 And therefore, we need to be doing more 00:09:36.60\00:09:40.38 to give these people sanctuaries of hope. 00:09:40.41\00:09:44.65 I agree, and I've always felt 00:09:44.68\00:09:46.65 and I know other people feel the same way 00:09:46.68\00:09:49.12 that when you go to these places. 00:09:49.15\00:09:51.05 And you see the needs and you come back home 00:09:51.09\00:09:53.76 to such wonderful countries that we live in. 00:09:53.79\00:09:55.72 Yeah, we are blessed. 00:09:55.76\00:09:57.09 And you think, you know, why were they born there? 00:09:57.13\00:09:59.66 Why was I born here? 00:09:59.69\00:10:01.23 And that's, and the reason, you know, we don't know why. 00:10:01.26\00:10:04.90 But I do know that as Christians 00:10:04.93\00:10:07.17 we have a responsibility to help those people 00:10:07.20\00:10:10.61 that live in other places. 00:10:10.64\00:10:12.54 Beverley, last Sunday I think it was, 00:10:12.57\00:10:16.64 the believers took me to a building that we can buy. 00:10:16.68\00:10:21.52 We're gonna run video of this. I want the folks to see this. 00:10:21.55\00:10:25.25 We can buy this. 00:10:25.29\00:10:26.62 We can make it a sanctuary for three churches. 00:10:26.65\00:10:29.79 Get these people out of minus 10 degrees. 00:10:29.82\00:10:32.83 Get them into a place where the children can come, 00:10:32.86\00:10:35.33 where the old women can come. 00:10:35.36\00:10:37.00 Where the young people can come. 00:10:37.03\00:10:39.17 We can buy it for $350,000. 00:10:39.20\00:10:42.70 Well, that's not so much. 00:10:42.74\00:10:44.67 It's a lot if you don't have. To us in America. 00:10:44.71\00:10:47.01 No, but it's a lot if you don't have it. 00:10:47.04\00:10:49.14 I'm just appealing to our people, 00:10:49.18\00:10:51.11 who are watching the telecast. 00:10:51.15\00:10:52.98 Help us in the name of God, to provide a sanctuary of hope 00:10:53.01\00:10:58.19 for, for our believers in the former Soviet Union. 00:10:58.22\00:11:01.92 Some of them are worshipping in church, not churches, 00:11:01.96\00:11:04.66 but in buildings were it's-- 00:11:04.69\00:11:07.30 Beverley he told me, "Minus 10." 00:11:07.33\00:11:11.23 I spoke out of doors, where it's minus 10. 00:11:11.27\00:11:15.20 I went to church in Russia 00:11:15.24\00:11:16.97 when one, one day, it was minus 25. 00:11:17.01\00:11:20.91 Yeah, that's cold. 00:11:20.94\00:11:23.38 You and I would freeze. 00:11:23.41\00:11:24.75 Thank God, 3 ABN in Russia, 00:11:24.78\00:11:28.75 established the Christian Cultural Center. 00:11:28.78\00:11:32.42 Thank God for the vision of Danny Shelton. 00:11:32.45\00:11:36.39 They've got a church there now, and I preached in that church. 00:11:36.42\00:11:40.40 More than a thousand people there, 00:11:40.43\00:11:44.00 all these beautiful young people. 00:11:44.03\00:11:46.77 By the grace of God, we must be the servants of Christ, 00:11:46.80\00:11:52.77 and we must seek to save that which was lost. 00:11:52.81\00:11:56.81 Yeah, well, as you often say, God blesses us, 00:11:56.85\00:11:59.21 so that we can bless others. 00:11:59.25\00:12:00.58 Yes. 00:12:00.62\00:12:01.95 And we take with one hand, 00:12:01.98\00:12:03.32 but we give with the other hand, 00:12:03.35\00:12:04.69 that's why God gave us two hands. 00:12:04.72\00:12:06.42 Yes, let me try to answer your question. 00:12:06.45\00:12:09.09 You asked me why do people leave the church. 00:12:09.12\00:12:12.69 Well, we know there are many reasons 00:12:12.73\00:12:14.13 why people leave the church. 00:12:14.16\00:12:16.93 But I have returned to Russia 00:12:16.97\00:12:18.93 and you've gone with me most of the occasions. 00:12:18.97\00:12:20.94 I've gone back 43 times. 00:12:20.97\00:12:23.34 Because I don't believe in evangelism 00:12:23.37\00:12:26.27 that just goes to a place and makes a big noise. 00:12:26.31\00:12:30.78 Takes a lot of pictures, 00:12:30.81\00:12:32.81 comes back and publishes it all in church papers 00:12:32.85\00:12:37.59 and never goes back. 00:12:37.62\00:12:39.75 So, we've run, 00:12:39.79\00:12:42.26 I think we've run 15 or 16 major evangelistic campaigns 00:12:42.29\00:12:47.90 in the former Soviet Union. 00:12:47.93\00:12:49.70 And that's not talking about smaller campaigns 00:12:49.73\00:12:52.27 that only lasted for a week or two. 00:12:52.30\00:12:54.90 But by the grace of God, we keep going back. 00:12:54.94\00:12:58.87 We have not only in evangelistic interest 00:12:58.91\00:13:01.48 in the souls of these people. 00:13:01.51\00:13:03.48 You and I Beverley, 00:13:03.51\00:13:04.85 have a pastoral interest in their souls. 00:13:04.88\00:13:07.48 And that's what it's all about, isn't it? 00:13:07.52\00:13:09.02 To tell them about Jesus. 00:13:09.05\00:13:11.15 And to give them hope for the future. 00:13:11.19\00:13:13.15 Because many of them still don't have a lot of hope. 00:13:13.19\00:13:16.02 There's a lot of wealthy people and they're doing okay. 00:13:16.06\00:13:19.33 But the average person 00:13:19.36\00:13:21.06 still has a battle from day to day. 00:13:21.10\00:13:23.73 And they're the ones we need 00:13:23.77\00:13:25.10 to tell about Jesus to give them hope 00:13:25.13\00:13:26.94 that there is a better future ahead. 00:13:26.97\00:13:29.90 You're watching the Carter Report 00:13:29.94\00:13:31.27 and we're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 00:13:31.31\00:13:34.78 I've just come back from Russia and Ukraine. 00:13:34.81\00:13:38.11 We don't go to these countries, 00:13:38.15\00:13:39.51 because we believe in their governments. 00:13:39.55\00:13:42.22 We go there, because we believe in the gospel of Christ 00:13:42.25\00:13:46.59 and we believe in the people. 00:13:46.62\00:13:49.16 I'm asking you, friend, in the name of Jesus, 00:13:49.19\00:13:51.53 please support this work. 00:13:51.56\00:13:53.80 Help us to build a church. 00:13:53.83\00:13:56.97 I can buy it for 300, I can buy a building for $350,000 now. 00:13:57.00\00:14:03.67 And get our believers in out of the cold 00:14:03.71\00:14:07.41 where they're worshiping in dirty buildings, 00:14:07.44\00:14:10.48 where the temperature is minus 10 degrees. 00:14:10.51\00:14:15.95 Please write to me. 00:14:15.98\00:14:17.89 And we'll be back after this special message. 00:14:17.92\00:14:21.86 I've just come from Russia via Switzerland. 00:14:25.03\00:14:28.30 And I'm now in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. 00:14:28.33\00:14:32.43 This place has got huge memories for me 00:14:32.47\00:14:36.54 because back in '95, we ran a campaign in the city 00:14:36.57\00:14:40.88 and in spite of terrific opposition, 00:14:40.91\00:14:43.91 by the grace of God, we baptized 00:14:43.95\00:14:46.01 3,530 precious souls in the Dneiper River. 00:14:46.05\00:14:52.89 I'm back here today, because I believe 00:14:52.92\00:14:55.89 that we need to take care of the people we baptized. 00:14:55.92\00:14:59.96 I don't believe it's right to baptize people, 00:15:00.00\00:15:03.16 and then to walk away, 00:15:03.20\00:15:05.07 and to leave them literally in the cold. 00:15:05.10\00:15:08.84 When I read my Bible, 00:15:08.87\00:15:10.51 I find where the Apostle Paul went back time after time 00:15:10.54\00:15:15.18 to visit the people that he had baptized. 00:15:15.21\00:15:18.55 And so, I'm back here today, for the 43rd time 00:15:18.58\00:15:23.99 in Russia and Ukraine together to visit the people. 00:15:24.02\00:15:28.29 I'm back here to preach the gospel of Christ. 00:15:28.32\00:15:31.39 I'm back here to explain the word of God. 00:15:31.43\00:15:34.03 And let these people know that they are not forgotten 00:15:34.06\00:15:37.90 and never will be forgotten. 00:15:37.93\00:15:41.37 We believe that there's a tremendous opportunity 00:15:41.40\00:15:45.67 for the preaching of the gospel of Christ 00:15:45.71\00:15:48.61 in this part of the world. 00:15:48.64\00:15:50.75 The soul hunger still exists. 00:15:50.78\00:15:54.98 And the Carter Report has got a goal 00:15:55.02\00:15:58.32 to take the gospel of Christ to the people of Russia 00:15:58.35\00:16:02.29 and the people of Ukraine. 00:16:02.32\00:16:04.63 I just want to say to you dear friend. 00:16:04.66\00:16:07.03 My heart is overwhelmed with thankfulness 00:16:07.06\00:16:10.30 for your magnificent support. 00:16:10.33\00:16:12.33 Thank you in Jesus name. 00:16:12.37\00:16:15.04 Welcome back to the Carter Report. 00:16:25.91\00:16:27.88 We're talking about the Ukrainian Experience. 00:16:27.92\00:16:31.59 I've just come back from an extended visit 00:16:31.62\00:16:34.39 to Russia and Ukraine. 00:16:34.42\00:16:37.16 So glad to have you with me, Beverley. 00:16:37.19\00:16:39.33 You're such a great blessing to this ministry 00:16:39.36\00:16:42.50 and to the people of Russia and Ukraine. 00:16:42.53\00:16:45.63 Do you remember what happened at Chernobyl? 00:16:45.67\00:16:49.54 Well, I wasn't actually there when the disaster happened 00:16:49.57\00:16:53.44 but we were there not long after. 00:16:53.48\00:16:56.11 And when we were in Kiev, 00:16:56.14\00:16:58.11 I met with one of our young pastors 00:16:58.15\00:17:00.72 who pastored the church just outside of Chernobyl, 00:17:00.75\00:17:04.19 there was of course a big perimeter around it. 00:17:04.22\00:17:07.06 But outside of that people were still living. 00:17:07.09\00:17:09.86 It was still dangerous. 00:17:09.89\00:17:11.29 Dangerously high in its radiation. 00:17:11.33\00:17:13.86 Hell hole. 00:17:13.90\00:17:15.23 And he s looks sickly and I said to him, 00:17:15.26\00:17:16.70 you know how's your health? 00:17:16.73\00:17:18.07 And he said, it's not good and my doctor has told me, 00:17:18.10\00:17:21.40 he was only young I'd say probably in his 30s. 00:17:21.44\00:17:24.61 He said that, "My doctor has told me, 00:17:24.64\00:17:26.44 if I want to have a long life that I need to leave." 00:17:26.47\00:17:29.31 And I said, "Well, why don't you leave?" 00:17:29.34\00:17:31.08 And he said, "How can I leave the people?" 00:17:31.11\00:17:33.08 He said, "I can't." He said, "These are my people. 00:17:33.11\00:17:36.38 If they have lost everything and they have no money to move 00:17:36.42\00:17:40.06 so I will stay with them." 00:17:40.09\00:17:42.39 And unfortunately I mean, I don't know 00:17:42.42\00:17:44.83 whether he is still alive but I probably, I doubt it. 00:17:44.86\00:17:47.50 I'll never forget him, 00:17:47.53\00:17:48.86 because he brought a bus load of people 00:17:48.90\00:17:50.60 every night to the Kiev campaign. 00:17:50.63\00:17:53.47 As you know, we baptized glory be to God, 00:17:53.50\00:17:55.67 3,500 people in that campaign. 00:17:55.70\00:17:59.74 We had so many people come to the meeting 00:17:59.77\00:18:02.31 you know, 100,000 turned away. 00:18:02.34\00:18:04.71 But, let's get back to Chernobyl. 00:18:04.75\00:18:07.18 Can you tell me about the babies? 00:18:07.22\00:18:10.45 Yes, well, the young pastor took me to children's hospital 00:18:10.49\00:18:15.39 and an orphanage. 00:18:15.42\00:18:16.96 Close again to the perimeter, just outside the perimeter, 00:18:16.99\00:18:20.30 where people could still live which they shouldn't have been 00:18:20.33\00:18:22.76 but they still were. 00:18:22.80\00:18:24.53 And I was taken into this round room 00:18:24.57\00:18:27.74 I'll never forget it. 00:18:27.77\00:18:30.07 In most of the orphanages and hospitals 00:18:30.11\00:18:32.21 that I visited in every city that we went to, 00:18:32.24\00:18:35.34 they were clean and usually quite well looked after 00:18:35.38\00:18:39.01 even they were in great need of medications 00:18:39.05\00:18:41.18 and other supplies. 00:18:41.22\00:18:42.55 But this one, it had a round table 00:18:42.58\00:18:45.92 and I could hear the babies were moaning and crying. 00:18:45.95\00:18:51.29 And it was just so sad, 00:18:51.33\00:18:53.09 and there was a stench in this room 00:18:53.13\00:18:55.33 that I'll never forget. 00:18:55.36\00:18:56.70 Goodness. 00:18:56.73\00:18:58.07 And, the lady with me, the director, she said, 00:18:58.10\00:19:00.40 "These babies all have some kind of brain damage" 00:19:00.44\00:19:04.11 because of the radiation that have had affected the parents. 00:19:04.14\00:19:07.71 And there was nothing they could do for them. 00:19:07.74\00:19:10.58 And in that, at that time I mean I don't know, 00:19:10.61\00:19:13.72 whether things have gotten any better. 00:19:13.75\00:19:15.92 But that was, you know, very bad then. 00:19:15.95\00:19:18.82 So, then I went, they took me over to the orphanage. 00:19:18.85\00:19:21.99 And where a lot of the children that were young ones too 00:19:22.02\00:19:26.26 who had heart defects and other defects 00:19:26.29\00:19:30.80 because of the radiation from their parents. 00:19:30.83\00:19:34.47 And when I got back to the hotel that night 00:19:34.50\00:19:36.54 I told you about what I had seen here. 00:19:36.57\00:19:39.21 And we both decided when we got back to the States 00:19:39.24\00:19:42.21 we said, "We're going to try to do something 00:19:42.24\00:19:44.65 to help this orphanage and this hospital." 00:19:44.68\00:19:47.68 And so we got back to the States. 00:19:47.72\00:19:49.62 And we had some good friends in Oregon. 00:19:49.65\00:19:52.19 And they had contact with some hospitals, 00:19:52.22\00:19:56.52 and pharmaceutical companies, and together, 00:19:56.56\00:20:00.13 we were able to get 24,000 pounds worth of medications 00:20:00.16\00:20:05.33 and medical supplies. 00:20:05.37\00:20:07.10 But then of course, we thought well, 00:20:07.14\00:20:08.47 how do we get them to Kiev. 00:20:08.50\00:20:10.21 And in defense they also had some contacts 00:20:10.24\00:20:13.17 with the U.S. military. 00:20:13.21\00:20:15.28 And so they contacted the U.S. military, 00:20:15.31\00:20:18.11 the air force, and a message came back to us. 00:20:18.15\00:20:20.55 "Well, if you can get permission 00:20:20.58\00:20:21.98 to land in Ukraine in Kiev" 00:20:22.02\00:20:24.05 because it hadn't done before. 00:20:24.09\00:20:25.42 Asking us. Then we'll go. 00:20:25.45\00:20:27.32 The U.S. Air Force asking us? Yeah, asking us. 00:20:27.36\00:20:29.79 And then I think, you know the rest of the story 00:20:29.82\00:20:31.56 because you helped to get permission. 00:20:31.59\00:20:34.06 Well, we got permission, for the first ever landing 00:20:34.10\00:20:38.50 since communism 00:20:38.53\00:20:40.44 of a U.S. military aircraft in Ukraine. 00:20:40.47\00:20:44.47 It was a Hercules. It was amazing, a miracle. 00:20:44.51\00:20:47.84 And a huge plane and the staff, 00:20:47.88\00:20:50.71 the captain and all of those Americans 00:20:50.75\00:20:53.38 were mighty ambassadors for God and for the nation. 00:20:53.42\00:20:59.45 And they brought over, what was it 24,000. 00:20:59.49\00:21:01.76 24,000 pounds. 24,000 pounds. 00:21:01.79\00:21:04.59 Now, I couldn't get back... 00:21:04.63\00:21:05.96 For the suffering people. 00:21:05.99\00:21:07.33 But you went back on a commercial flight 00:21:07.36\00:21:08.76 and you were there. 00:21:08.80\00:21:10.13 At the airport, when the plan 00:21:10.17\00:21:12.60 with some of that Kiev dignitaries 00:21:12.63\00:21:15.50 and their church leaders when the Hercules came in. 00:21:15.54\00:21:18.64 This big U.S plane and that was really something worth seeing, 00:21:18.67\00:21:22.14 and I've got some pictures of that. 00:21:22.18\00:21:23.71 Glory be to God. 00:21:23.75\00:21:25.45 Beverley, let me bring you into a dirty little secret. 00:21:25.48\00:21:30.55 I hope it's not too dirty. 00:21:30.59\00:21:32.09 Well, it's dirty in the sense that it's, 00:21:32.12\00:21:37.83 it shows the extent of the awfulness of sin. 00:21:37.86\00:21:42.13 In Russia and Ukraine, 00:21:42.16\00:21:43.57 you've got about one or two percent at the top. 00:21:43.60\00:21:47.04 And they're wealthy, 00:21:47.07\00:21:48.50 they have great motor cars and great homes. 00:21:48.54\00:21:51.71 But the vast majority of the people 00:21:51.74\00:21:55.04 are in poverty. 00:21:55.08\00:21:58.75 So, that's the dirty little secret. 00:21:58.78\00:22:00.38 People don't realize this, they don't realize it 00:22:00.42\00:22:02.75 either the terrible poverty 00:22:02.78\00:22:05.19 that our believers still are even in these countries. 00:22:05.22\00:22:09.16 Yeah. 00:22:09.19\00:22:10.53 And I was talking to a man 00:22:10.56\00:22:11.89 who is running a wonderful Christian outreach in Kiev. 00:22:11.93\00:22:16.23 And he told me, he's got these young people working for him. 00:22:16.26\00:22:19.73 And I said, "How can you pay them? 00:22:19.77\00:22:23.17 He said, "With great difficulty." 00:22:23.20\00:22:26.37 I said, "How much are you paying them?" 00:22:26.41\00:22:28.18 He said, "Some of them $40 a month. 00:22:28.21\00:22:31.38 Some of them $50 a month." 00:22:31.41\00:22:34.12 But when you go down to the supermarket, 00:22:34.15\00:22:36.22 it's like going to America. 00:22:36.25\00:22:38.52 Everything's expensive? 00:22:38.55\00:22:39.89 Yes and so, it's, it's burning in my soul, 00:22:39.92\00:22:43.93 I'm not going to give up on these people 00:22:43.96\00:22:45.66 because God didn't give up on me. 00:22:45.69\00:22:48.10 That's right. 00:22:48.13\00:22:49.46 And I know the poverty, and I know the hunger, 00:22:49.50\00:22:52.00 and I know the awful distress of people 00:22:52.03\00:22:56.87 worshipping in dirty holes, that's how dirty it gets. 00:22:56.91\00:23:01.98 And outside it's minus 10, inside it's minus 10. 00:23:02.01\00:23:06.08 And they've got no electricity. 00:23:06.11\00:23:08.42 And they took me to a place that we can buy 00:23:08.45\00:23:12.12 for three churches for $350,000. 00:23:12.15\00:23:15.79 And so, I say to the people watching in the name of God 00:23:15.82\00:23:18.99 is there not a course. 00:23:19.03\00:23:21.56 As it says in the Bible, "Is it nothing to you, 00:23:21.60\00:23:23.97 or you who passed by." 00:23:24.00\00:23:26.47 We need to do something for our young people 00:23:26.50\00:23:29.70 and the babies. 00:23:29.74\00:23:32.11 Don't worry about these governments, 00:23:32.14\00:23:33.51 these governments may be bad. 00:23:33.54\00:23:35.14 We don't care about the governments. 00:23:35.18\00:23:36.71 We care about the people. 00:23:36.75\00:23:38.08 And that's right. 00:23:38.11\00:23:39.45 And we ask God for help and He-- 00:23:39.48\00:23:40.82 And God never fails. And God is faithful. 00:23:40.85\00:23:44.15 We've run campaigns as you know 00:23:44.19\00:23:46.19 in most of the Great Russian cities, 00:23:46.22\00:23:49.89 also in Kiev, Odessa. 00:23:49.92\00:23:54.90 Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov, 00:23:54.93\00:23:58.20 Zaporizhia, what experience? 00:23:58.23\00:24:02.74 What does it bring into your mind? 00:24:02.77\00:24:04.61 Well, mostly of course, it brings in the people. 00:24:04.64\00:24:07.71 Because once they hear the good message 00:24:07.74\00:24:10.15 that they hear the gospel message, 00:24:10.18\00:24:11.98 it just changes them. 00:24:12.01\00:24:13.62 And these people even though, they haven't got much, 00:24:13.65\00:24:16.79 they're so generous and they're so loving, 00:24:16.82\00:24:19.05 I don't know this is one thing 00:24:19.09\00:24:20.42 that we, we didn't speak about back 00:24:20.46\00:24:23.22 when you were preaching. 00:24:23.26\00:24:25.06 On this, or on the stages they will bring flowers 00:24:25.09\00:24:28.06 by the bucketsful with tulips and roses, 00:24:28.10\00:24:31.87 I love their gardens. 00:24:31.90\00:24:33.77 And they're always full of flowers. 00:24:33.80\00:24:36.44 Now, another thing in Dnipropetrovsk. 00:24:36.47\00:24:39.24 I went to an orphanage there, and I had 300 babies. 00:24:39.27\00:24:43.65 In Kiev, Ukraine and Russia they had their orphanages, 00:24:43.68\00:24:48.05 they would keep the children from, 00:24:48.08\00:24:49.75 right from birth to three, three to six, six and so forth. 00:24:49.78\00:24:53.05 And on this, in this one, they needed a hot water system, 00:24:53.09\00:24:57.49 a sterilizer and some diapers. 00:24:57.53\00:24:59.96 And we were able to help them with that. 00:25:00.00\00:25:01.90 Now, I know you also in Odessa, 00:25:01.93\00:25:04.20 you had something that happened miraculously with a baby. 00:25:04.23\00:25:07.57 Could you tell us about that? They took me to a hospital. 00:25:07.60\00:25:10.24 It's cold, and dark, and damp, and dreary. 00:25:10.27\00:25:13.71 They brought out a little baby boy, 00:25:13.74\00:25:15.21 they said he's going to die in the next few hours. 00:25:15.24\00:25:18.35 And the mother was there, 00:25:18.38\00:25:19.75 and the old Babushkan nurse gave me the baby, 00:25:19.78\00:25:23.85 and the dean Butov was with me 00:25:23.89\00:25:25.35 and we anointed that baby in the name of the Lord. 00:25:25.39\00:25:29.46 And when I went back a little while later, 00:25:29.49\00:25:31.83 I was met by the mother 00:25:31.86\00:25:33.60 and the little baby boy who was then running around. 00:25:33.63\00:25:37.47 Healed by God, Beverley. 00:25:37.50\00:25:40.57 Can I tell you a secret? Yes. 00:25:40.60\00:25:44.11 Here's the secret, just between you and me. 00:25:44.14\00:25:45.84 Don't you folks listen? 00:25:45.87\00:25:48.04 We need to do something for these young people. 00:25:48.08\00:25:51.91 We've seen thousands of young people come to Christ. 00:25:51.95\00:25:56.52 But these young people need desperately spiritual help 00:25:56.55\00:26:00.92 they've asked me to go back 00:26:00.96\00:26:03.59 and run a series of evangelistic meetings, 00:26:03.63\00:26:07.26 especially focused on the needs of young people 00:26:07.30\00:26:13.50 in Russia and Ukraine. 00:26:13.54\00:26:15.44 And they're so eager to workout 00:26:15.47\00:26:16.87 because as you said at 3ABN in Russia 00:26:16.91\00:26:19.64 and then Hope in Ukraine. 00:26:19.67\00:26:21.58 They're mostly young people that are doing the work. 00:26:21.61\00:26:24.48 And the Hope and 3ABN working together over there. 00:26:24.51\00:26:28.52 But I want to say to the people watching the program. 00:26:28.55\00:26:31.79 Listen my, friend, we've got to build sanctuaries of hope. 00:26:31.82\00:26:36.66 Are you listening to me? 00:26:36.69\00:26:38.26 We've get the believers in out of this arctic conditions. 00:26:38.29\00:26:43.20 I can buy a building now 00:26:43.23\00:26:44.93 that will take care of three churches in Kiev. 00:26:44.97\00:26:49.07 It will cost $350,000. 00:26:49.10\00:26:52.21 Please in the name of God help me. 00:26:52.24\00:26:55.84 And something else, 00:26:55.88\00:26:57.58 help us to run a big evangelistic campaign, 00:26:57.61\00:27:00.98 not only for old folks but for the young people. 00:27:01.02\00:27:06.35 The young people, who are becoming mesmerized 00:27:06.39\00:27:09.26 by the lights of the world. 00:27:09.29\00:27:12.43 But I spoke to so many young people, 00:27:12.46\00:27:14.53 I saw their faces, they came to me. 00:27:14.56\00:27:18.60 Please support this work, support the work of God 00:27:18.63\00:27:23.00 in the lands of the former Soviet Union please. 00:27:23.04\00:27:26.07 Write to me, John Carter and Beverly Carter. 00:27:26.11\00:27:29.91 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 00:27:29.94\00:27:35.08 My Aussie friends, I want to hear from you. 00:27:35.12\00:27:38.65 Please write to me John Carter and to my wife Beverley Carter 00:27:38.69\00:27:43.29 at the address in Terrigal. 00:27:43.32\00:27:45.99 Help us to build sanctuaries of hope 00:27:46.03\00:27:49.46 in the former Soviet Union 00:27:49.50\00:27:51.53 and help us to light a gospel fire 00:27:51.57\00:27:55.60 for the salvation of thousands of souls. 00:27:55.64\00:28:00.48 Help us to save the babies. 00:28:00.51\00:28:03.75 Help us to save these beautiful young people. 00:28:03.78\00:28:07.62 Jesus said, "I've come to seek, and to save 00:28:07.65\00:28:12.82 that which was lost." 00:28:12.85\00:28:14.79 Thank you for your partnership in the gospel of Christ. 00:28:14.82\00:28:19.19 God bless you. 00:28:19.23\00:28:20.56