The Carter Report presents, 00:00:08.97\00:00:10.71 The Living Word around the world. 00:00:10.74\00:00:13.58 Hello, friend, I'm John Carter. 00:00:17.58\00:00:20.12 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 00:00:20.15\00:00:22.88 We've got a tremendous program today 00:00:22.92\00:00:25.29 because we've got somebody here 00:00:25.32\00:00:27.72 who is going to tell you the story of a lifetime. 00:00:27.76\00:00:31.16 This man has seen the hand of God in operation. 00:00:31.19\00:00:35.20 There are two types of people in the world 00:00:35.23\00:00:37.27 I have discovered in my pilgrimage, 00:00:37.30\00:00:39.80 people who are big talkers, and people who are big doers. 00:00:39.83\00:00:46.07 We have here for the glory of God 00:00:46.11\00:00:47.74 one of God's big doers, the founder of 3ABN, 00:00:47.78\00:00:53.65 my friend Danny Shelton. 00:00:53.68\00:00:56.32 He is going to tell us how God has used 3ABN 00:00:56.35\00:00:59.29 around the world 00:00:59.32\00:01:00.76 in reaching the lost for Christ. 00:01:00.79\00:01:04.09 Welcome today to The Carter Report. 00:01:04.13\00:01:09.60 God has his time and his place for everything. 00:01:09.63\00:01:14.97 And the time and place now 00:01:15.00\00:01:17.87 is Latin America, including Cuba. 00:01:17.91\00:01:22.38 Time magazine talks about 00:01:22.41\00:01:24.25 the second protestant reformation 00:01:24.28\00:01:27.22 and describes how 100s of 1000s, 00:01:27.25\00:01:30.65 even millions of Latinos are coming 00:01:30.69\00:01:33.99 to the Gospel of Christ. 00:01:34.02\00:01:37.26 I'm not an armchair theologian. 00:01:37.29\00:01:39.83 I'm speaking according to experience, 00:01:39.86\00:01:42.60 I have seen it with my own eyes. 00:01:42.63\00:01:46.17 Recently we went down to El Salvador, 00:01:46.20\00:01:50.34 there I spoke in the largest football stadium 00:01:50.37\00:01:53.58 in Central America, with the biggest crowd that 00:01:53.61\00:01:56.78 that foot ball stadium had ever ever seen. 00:01:56.81\00:02:00.35 They came not to see a football match 00:02:00.38\00:02:03.35 but to hear about the blood of Christ. 00:02:03.39\00:02:06.65 Millions are coming to a knowledge 00:02:06.69\00:02:09.12 of God in Latin America. 00:02:09.16\00:02:12.59 Doors are opening in Cuba. 00:02:12.63\00:02:15.73 Who knows, we may be going to Cuba soon. 00:02:15.76\00:02:19.57 As the doors open by the grace of God, 00:02:19.60\00:02:23.00 we are going to step through those doors, 00:02:23.04\00:02:26.14 and we want you to step through those doors with us, 00:02:26.17\00:02:30.41 and be part of our team. 00:02:30.45\00:02:33.11 For such a time as this. 00:02:33.15\00:02:34.72 Please write to me, friend, don't put it off. 00:02:34.75\00:02:37.65 Write to me John Carter, post office box 1900, 00:02:37.69\00:02:42.32 Thousand Oaks, California 91358. 00:02:42.36\00:02:46.23 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal, New South Wales. 00:02:46.26\00:02:51.53 Be part of the second reformation, 00:02:51.57\00:02:55.17 join us and see the miracles of God. 00:02:55.20\00:02:59.94 Amen. 00:02:59.97\00:03:01.51 Now welcome today to The Carter Report. 00:03:10.39\00:03:12.65 I'm John Carter and my special guest 00:03:12.69\00:03:15.52 is the founder of 3ABN, my old friend Danny Shelton. 00:03:15.56\00:03:20.76 Danny, welcome here today. 00:03:20.80\00:03:22.73 Thank you, Pastor Carter, it's good to here. 00:03:22.76\00:03:24.73 It's a privilege and a pleasure to have you here 00:03:24.77\00:03:27.77 in Southern California. 00:03:27.80\00:03:29.44 I love being here, 00:03:29.47\00:03:30.81 and love being with you most of all 00:03:30.84\00:03:32.17 because you have a vision to go unto all the world. 00:03:32.21\00:03:34.98 I love being around people 00:03:35.01\00:03:37.05 who believe in taking the Gospel to the world. 00:03:37.08\00:03:39.58 And some of the best days we've ever had, 00:03:39.61\00:03:42.18 some of the best days where when 3ABN 00:03:42.22\00:03:45.55 and Carter Report got together and we went overseas to Russia 00:03:45.59\00:03:49.59 to preach the Gospel to the millions that were lost. 00:03:49.62\00:03:52.19 I'm eternally grateful to you for inviting 3ABN to go. 00:03:52.23\00:03:56.56 We just had a great time, and we're thankful to God 00:03:56.60\00:03:59.37 that you accepted the invitation. 00:03:59.40\00:04:01.64 Before 1984 that's when 3ABN was born, was in not? 00:04:01.67\00:04:06.31 Yes, I remember. 00:04:06.34\00:04:07.68 Tell me about your early years, Danny. 00:04:07.71\00:04:10.35 Well, I was raised in a family, we were considered poor. 00:04:10.38\00:04:12.91 Southern Illinois. 00:04:12.95\00:04:14.28 And my father was disabled at 36 years old, 00:04:14.32\00:04:18.02 and my mother and father 00:04:18.05\00:04:19.39 had been country western musicians for a time, 00:04:19.42\00:04:21.86 but after they became Adventist Christians, 00:04:21.89\00:04:24.73 they no longer, of course, went out 00:04:24.76\00:04:26.43 and played in the nights clubs 00:04:26.46\00:04:27.80 and neither one had an education 00:04:27.83\00:04:29.26 beyond the eight grade so, 00:04:29.30\00:04:30.97 they just did whatever work they could do, 00:04:31.00\00:04:33.30 and that's usually with the hands. 00:04:33.34\00:04:35.00 So I was raised, it was five children, 00:04:35.04\00:04:37.21 four boys and a girl and my mother and father, 00:04:37.24\00:04:39.87 and I became a carpenter. 00:04:39.91\00:04:41.44 My brothers and I, we had an uncle 00:04:41.48\00:04:43.35 who is a carpenter so, during our younger years 00:04:43.38\00:04:45.75 we'd go with him on Sundays. 00:04:45.78\00:04:47.12 That's a very honorable trade as you know. 00:04:47.15\00:04:49.25 Well I realize that now. 00:04:49.28\00:04:52.15 There was a very, very famous carpenter. 00:04:52.19\00:04:54.06 Well there was, absolutely. 00:04:54.09\00:04:55.76 Before 1984, in Southern Illinois, 00:04:55.79\00:04:59.83 you could say almost brought up in poverty. 00:04:59.86\00:05:02.96 Yes, but you know what? 00:05:03.00\00:05:04.33 We had what a lot of families around the world don't. 00:05:04.37\00:05:07.17 Yes. 00:05:07.20\00:05:08.54 There was a lot of love in our family. 00:05:08.57\00:05:09.90 Absolutely, that's what we had too. 00:05:09.94\00:05:11.27 So my mom and dad loved Jesus 00:05:11.31\00:05:12.64 and we were raised in a Christian home. 00:05:12.67\00:05:14.01 My mother became an Adventist 00:05:14.04\00:05:16.61 the year I was born. 00:05:16.64\00:05:18.05 She actually, three years before 00:05:18.08\00:05:19.41 that I was born in '51, and '48 she contracted polio. 00:05:19.45\00:05:23.59 And she literally, her arms and legs had drawn 00:05:23.62\00:05:27.09 and she couldn't walk. 00:05:27.12\00:05:28.46 The doctors came and they said, 00:05:28.49\00:05:30.06 you know, it's a German, Jewish doctor, 00:05:30.09\00:05:31.69 named doctor Galula, and he said, 00:05:31.73\00:05:33.80 we're going to have to take her 00:05:33.83\00:05:35.16 to Saint Louis Barnes Jewish hospital. 00:05:35.20\00:05:37.17 And my father said, he asked her, 00:05:37.20\00:05:38.90 how long will she be there? 00:05:38.93\00:05:40.27 He said, I don't know if she'll ever come back. 00:05:40.30\00:05:41.87 My mother had been studying the Adventist message. 00:05:41.90\00:05:44.84 The Bible message-- Yes. 00:05:44.87\00:05:46.21 For two years with an uncle of mine Olan Shelton, 00:05:46.24\00:05:48.74 and Meldrin, and my aunt, 00:05:48.78\00:05:50.51 who had become Seventh-day Adventist, 00:05:50.55\00:05:52.38 but she wouldn't join the church, 00:05:52.41\00:05:54.12 because they were doing their music in the night clubs, 00:05:54.15\00:05:56.62 and doing these things, 00:05:56.65\00:05:57.99 and she said we have to make a living. 00:05:58.02\00:06:00.02 And here she's suddenly down with polio. 00:06:00.06\00:06:03.22 The doctor comes to the house says, 00:06:03.26\00:06:04.83 we're going to have to send her to Saint Louis. 00:06:04.86\00:06:08.20 My mother says, she hears it in the other room, 00:06:08.23\00:06:10.47 she manages to roll of the bed in a position 00:06:10.50\00:06:13.87 and prayed, Lord, if you'll heal me 00:06:13.90\00:06:16.24 I promise to never set foot in another tavern, 00:06:16.27\00:06:19.07 I promise to become a Christian, 00:06:19.11\00:06:21.31 I will join the Adventist church 00:06:21.34\00:06:22.68 and I'll raise my children to do so. 00:06:22.71\00:06:25.05 That's a big prayer. 00:06:25.08\00:06:26.41 She, she had, my uncle came 00:06:26.45\00:06:28.18 and brought the Adventist pastor. 00:06:28.22\00:06:29.98 My father who wasn't a Christian said 00:06:30.02\00:06:31.55 I'll leave the room, 00:06:31.59\00:06:32.92 'cause those of you who believe, pray. 00:06:32.95\00:06:34.62 They laid hands on her, they prayed for her, 00:06:34.66\00:06:36.86 and the story goes that within a matter of hours, 00:06:36.89\00:06:40.06 before the ambulance could get there 00:06:40.10\00:06:41.56 to take her to saint Louis, her arms and legs, 00:06:41.60\00:06:44.27 the color came back, 00:06:44.30\00:06:45.90 she literally was on her feet cleaning house 00:06:45.93\00:06:48.47 because she said my father hadn't done that good a job 00:06:48.50\00:06:51.01 and the few children that she had, 00:06:51.04\00:06:53.48 but I believe in miracles today pastor Carter. 00:06:53.51\00:06:54.84 Yes, it's a miracle of God. 00:06:54.88\00:06:56.21 Because she lived a long life after that, 00:06:56.24\00:06:58.81 and raised all of us to love Jesus. 00:06:58.85\00:07:00.72 Amazing, so here you are, 00:07:00.75\00:07:03.05 you're a carpenter in Southern Illinois 00:07:03.08\00:07:05.75 and you get this, some would say, 00:07:05.79\00:07:08.22 a crazy idea to take this 00:07:08.26\00:07:10.99 three angels' messages to the world. 00:07:11.03\00:07:13.46 Yes. 00:07:13.50\00:07:15.06 Now the church wasn't, 00:07:15.10\00:07:16.46 didn't have a television station in those days, 00:07:16.50\00:07:18.43 hope has come along many years after, 00:07:18.47\00:07:20.77 but the church didn't have 00:07:20.80\00:07:22.14 a worldwide television outreach. 00:07:22.17\00:07:24.01 There was not one Seventh-day Adventist 00:07:24.04\00:07:25.87 television station on planet Earth 00:07:25.91\00:07:27.94 giving the three angels' messages. 00:07:27.98\00:07:29.31 Well, you know, it couldn't be done. 00:07:29.34\00:07:31.61 Well, absolutely. 00:07:31.65\00:07:32.98 It can't be done, so why even try? 00:07:33.01\00:07:35.22 Well, with me, what happened, 00:07:35.25\00:07:36.58 my daughter and my wife Kate at the time, 00:07:36.62\00:07:40.39 she was later killed in an automobile accident. 00:07:40.42\00:07:42.92 Actually in 1982 she was killed, 00:07:42.96\00:07:44.59 but my daughter and I continued to travel 00:07:44.63\00:07:47.00 and we sing, we sing on some 00:07:47.03\00:07:48.56 charismatic television stations and others. 00:07:48.60\00:07:51.67 And everywhere I'd go, I'd say, Lord where are we 00:07:51.70\00:07:53.67 as Seventh-day Adventists in the media? 00:07:53.70\00:07:55.50 The old saying is, the farther you go, 00:07:55.54\00:07:57.24 the behinder we get. 00:07:57.27\00:07:58.61 And so one night I lay there, 00:07:58.64\00:08:00.78 and I had been singing on these networks. 00:08:00.81\00:08:03.41 I came home, turned on a channel 00:08:03.45\00:08:05.68 and I said Lord, I couldn't sleep, 00:08:05.71\00:08:07.68 Lord, why doesn't a church build 00:08:07.72\00:08:09.28 a television station to reach the world? 00:08:09.32\00:08:11.02 Yes, of course. 00:08:11.05\00:08:12.39 And I continued to fuss about this 00:08:12.42\00:08:13.76 with the Lord for a while. 00:08:13.79\00:08:15.16 And John this thought came to me, 00:08:15.19\00:08:16.86 November, late night, early morning. 00:08:16.89\00:08:18.76 November 15th 1984, I want you to build 00:08:18.79\00:08:22.06 a television station that will reach the world 00:08:22.10\00:08:24.53 with an undiluted Three Angels' Messages. 00:08:24.57\00:08:26.74 One that would counteract the counterfeit. 00:08:26.77\00:08:28.94 Now here is the thing, I was a carpenter 00:08:28.97\00:08:30.87 with a high school education, I wasn't a theologian, 00:08:30.91\00:08:33.51 I was an Adventist, knew some of the doctrines, 00:08:33.54\00:08:35.84 but had no idea what undiluted three angels' messages, 00:08:35.88\00:08:40.45 one that would counter act 00:08:40.48\00:08:41.82 the counterfeit to all the world. 00:08:41.85\00:08:43.18 I had no idea what that meant, 00:08:43.22\00:08:45.05 but I finally said, do you what Lord? 00:08:45.09\00:08:47.12 If this is you, I will go forward, 00:08:47.16\00:08:49.66 but I'll go forward on two conditions, 00:08:49.69\00:08:51.46 I'll never beg for money, and I'll never borrow money. 00:08:51.49\00:08:54.10 That's a big dream. 00:08:54.13\00:08:56.20 Southern Illinois, the company. 00:08:56.23\00:08:57.93 You're going to build a television station. 00:08:57.97\00:08:59.90 Of course, you got a lot of help to do that, didn't you? 00:08:59.93\00:09:02.07 A little town of 9,000 people, you know- 00:09:02.10\00:09:04.61 What's the name of the town? 00:09:04.64\00:09:06.34 Thompsonville. Thompsonville. 00:09:06.37\00:09:07.71 Out close to where the station is, 00:09:07.74\00:09:09.08 there is 600 people. 00:09:09.11\00:09:10.45 I know, that's a real metropolis. 00:09:10.48\00:09:12.18 Absolutely, Frankfurt is big compared to that. 00:09:12.21\00:09:14.68 Yeah, I have been to all those places many times. 00:09:14.72\00:09:16.82 You sure have. 00:09:16.85\00:09:18.19 Well, you know, I was surprised, 00:09:18.22\00:09:19.55 I thought that everybody, 00:09:19.59\00:09:20.96 when I would go to Adventist churches 00:09:20.99\00:09:22.69 and say the Lord has impressed me 00:09:22.72\00:09:24.23 to build a television station to reach the world, 00:09:24.26\00:09:26.46 people would jump up and down. 00:09:26.49\00:09:28.43 Praise the Lord. What a great idea. 00:09:28.46\00:09:30.00 One of the first places I came, 00:09:30.03\00:09:31.50 because we were singing. 00:09:31.53\00:09:32.87 My daughter and I were out here to California. 00:09:32.90\00:09:34.47 I won't tell you where, what church, 00:09:34.50\00:09:36.44 but I got up and sang a few songs 00:09:36.47\00:09:38.37 and then I said I have to tell you folks, 00:09:38.41\00:09:40.08 the Lord has impressed me 00:09:40.11\00:09:41.44 to build a television station to reach the world. 00:09:41.48\00:09:43.55 I saw the pastor stand up in the back of the church 00:09:43.58\00:09:46.08 and started doing this, and I said-- 00:09:46.11\00:09:48.82 What does that mean? 00:09:48.85\00:09:50.19 Well, I didn't know, whether he had a problem, 00:09:50.22\00:09:52.45 he was, I thought he was fanning, 00:09:52.49\00:09:53.82 he should do it this way. 00:09:53.86\00:09:55.19 Or else he had an itch. 00:09:55.22\00:09:56.56 He had something going on, 00:09:56.59\00:09:57.93 or he wanted me to stop for some reason. 00:09:57.96\00:09:59.29 It must be. 00:09:59.33\00:10:00.66 I think he said stop, so I took a break. 00:10:00.70\00:10:02.36 They took up an offering, 00:10:02.40\00:10:03.73 did whatever they were going to do. 00:10:03.77\00:10:05.10 He called me into his office, he said listen here, young man. 00:10:05.13\00:10:07.07 I was a young man at that time, 30 years ago. 00:10:07.10\00:10:09.97 I called you to sing, do not be talking about 00:10:10.01\00:10:12.34 building a television station to reach the world. 00:10:12.37\00:10:14.68 Yes, I know. I said why? 00:10:14.71\00:10:16.04 He said 'cause you know it's never going to happen. 00:10:16.08\00:10:17.65 Why get people excited about something 00:10:17.68\00:10:19.78 that's never going to happen. 00:10:19.81\00:10:21.15 And you know what? 00:10:21.18\00:10:22.52 It hadn't occurred to me up to that time, 00:10:22.55\00:10:23.99 because from the day one I have never doubted 00:10:24.02\00:10:26.15 God was going to do what he asked me to do. 00:10:26.19\00:10:28.52 See God has counted his resources in advance 00:10:28.56\00:10:31.89 and found that he's not wanting. 00:10:31.93\00:10:33.26 I learned that from Dr. Walt Thompson, 00:10:33.29\00:10:35.06 former board chairman of mine. 00:10:35.10\00:10:36.87 And when God, where God guides, he provides. 00:10:36.90\00:10:39.40 So it never occurred to me and I thought, 00:10:39.43\00:10:41.30 I thought people would be excited, 00:10:41.34\00:10:43.20 everywhere I went and talk in churches, 00:10:43.24\00:10:45.74 I couldn't get, most of the time, 00:10:45.77\00:10:47.84 a lot of the leaders to support it, 00:10:47.88\00:10:49.68 'cause they said we don't want you to do this you, 00:10:49.71\00:10:51.45 you're going to take away money that should be coming us 00:10:51.48\00:10:54.22 and then it's just going to be gone. 00:10:54.25\00:10:55.65 Danny, there's only one pie, don't you remember? 00:10:55.68\00:10:58.65 Absolutely. There's only one pie. 00:10:58.69\00:11:00.36 I came right out here to the Adventist media center 00:11:00.39\00:11:01.96 and that's what they told me. 00:11:01.99\00:11:03.32 One pie. 00:11:03.36\00:11:04.69 Told a whole group about how, 00:11:04.73\00:11:06.06 how the Lord impressed me to build a television station, 00:11:06.09\00:11:09.10 couldn't get the leadership involved and I said why not? 00:11:09.13\00:11:11.53 One man said here is an Adventist pie, 00:11:11.57\00:11:14.04 it can only be sliced in so many slices, 00:11:14.07\00:11:16.97 and no, I'm not excited about what you are doing. 00:11:17.01\00:11:19.54 He said I'm not excited because every time 00:11:19.57\00:11:22.68 that a new ministry like yours gets up, 00:11:22.71\00:11:24.55 my slice of the pie gets thinner. 00:11:24.58\00:11:26.58 I said look, that may be true, 00:11:26.61\00:11:28.32 but if you look in the refrigerator, 00:11:28.35\00:11:29.68 God's got a lot more pies. 00:11:29.72\00:11:31.35 When Jesus said, go ye unto all the world, 00:11:31.39\00:11:33.76 he is going to supply every need. 00:11:33.79\00:11:35.19 For my God shall supply all of your need 00:11:35.22\00:11:37.53 according to His riches and glory through Christ Jesus. 00:11:37.56\00:11:40.23 We're going to wind up this segment in two minutes, 00:11:40.26\00:11:42.66 but I want to ask you something that's important. 00:11:42.70\00:11:45.50 What's so vital about these three angels' messages? 00:11:45.53\00:11:50.07 Because most folks tell me today, 00:11:50.11\00:11:52.44 they don't even know what they are about, 00:11:52.47\00:11:54.38 and they don't even hear them preached. 00:11:54.41\00:11:56.64 That's wonderful, and I'm glad we named-- 00:11:56.68\00:11:58.58 The Lord impressed us to name this 00:11:58.61\00:12:00.02 Three Angels Broadcasting Network, 00:12:00.05\00:12:01.78 because everywhere I go people say 00:12:01.82\00:12:03.65 where did you get that name? 00:12:03.69\00:12:05.02 You have three children you named after? 00:12:05.05\00:12:06.45 I say no, look in Revelation the fourteenth chapter. 00:12:06.49\00:12:09.02 What's so important about 00:12:09.06\00:12:11.69 the three angels' messages in this minute, time, John? 00:12:11.73\00:12:14.76 It's an end time message, for end time's people. 00:12:14.80\00:12:18.40 Anyone who claims to be a Christian, 00:12:18.43\00:12:20.30 anyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ 00:12:20.34\00:12:23.00 should be concerned because it's telling us 00:12:23.04\00:12:26.21 what is going to happen between now 00:12:26.24\00:12:28.34 and the second coming of Christ. 00:12:28.38\00:12:29.91 Danny, it's a message that starts 00:12:29.94\00:12:31.95 with the everlasting Gospel. 00:12:31.98\00:12:34.12 It calls attention to the great truth 00:12:34.15\00:12:36.22 that God is our creator. 00:12:36.25\00:12:38.42 We do not believe in the doctrine of evolution. 00:12:38.45\00:12:41.26 We don't believe in time plus matter plus chance. 00:12:41.29\00:12:44.13 We believe we came from the hand of God. 00:12:44.16\00:12:47.30 That's right. It's a warning against Babylon. 00:12:47.33\00:12:50.20 And it proclaims a warning about the beast, 00:12:50.23\00:12:54.17 the image of the beast, and the mark of the beast, 00:12:54.20\00:12:56.44 so help us God. 00:12:56.47\00:12:57.81 And it calls upon people to keep 00:12:57.84\00:12:59.24 the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 00:12:59.27\00:13:03.24 And the whole world needs to hear it right now-- 00:13:03.28\00:13:05.08 It is God's message. This hour in Earth's history. 00:13:05.11\00:13:06.98 It's not the most popular message in the world, Danny, 00:13:07.02\00:13:10.59 but it's the most important message in the world. 00:13:10.62\00:13:13.52 And it's the message of God for this time. 00:13:13.56\00:13:16.52 And that's why 3ABN exists, 00:13:16.56\00:13:19.66 to preach the undiluted truths of the three angels' messages. 00:13:19.69\00:13:24.33 My special guest today is my old friend, 00:13:24.37\00:13:27.27 Danny Shelton and we'll be back in a moment. 00:13:27.30\00:13:30.77 Don't go away. 00:13:30.81\00:13:32.87 You can have all the silver 00:13:48.86\00:13:53.09 You can have all the gold 00:13:53.13\00:13:56.60 Just give me Jesus 00:13:56.63\00:14:02.74 You can have all the wisdom 00:14:02.77\00:14:07.01 This earth can hold 00:14:07.04\00:14:10.41 Just give me Jesus 00:14:10.45\00:14:13.21 Give me Jesus when I'm lonely 00:14:13.25\00:14:16.89 And I have nowhere to go 00:14:16.92\00:14:20.32 Give me Jesus 00:14:20.36\00:14:21.92 He's the only one who loves me so 00:14:21.96\00:14:27.30 Give me Jesus 00:14:27.33\00:14:29.23 Because Jesus is all I need 00:14:29.26\00:14:37.14 You can have all the spotlights 00:14:42.34\00:14:45.81 You can have all the fame 00:14:45.85\00:14:49.25 Just give me Jesus 00:14:49.28\00:14:55.59 You can have all the success 00:14:55.62\00:14:59.83 Have your well known name 00:14:59.86\00:15:03.37 Just give me Jesus 00:15:03.40\00:15:06.07 Give me Jesus when I'm lonely 00:15:06.10\00:15:09.60 And I have nowhere to go 00:15:09.64\00:15:13.07 Give me Jesus 00:15:13.11\00:15:14.78 He's the only one who loves me so 00:15:14.81\00:15:20.35 Give me Jesus 00:15:20.38\00:15:22.45 Because Jesus is all I need 00:15:22.48\00:15:29.02 He's my closest friend 00:15:29.06\00:15:31.39 When no one seemed to care 00:15:31.43\00:15:35.56 Welcome back, friend. 00:15:35.60\00:15:36.93 My guest today is Danny Shelton from 3ABN. 00:15:36.97\00:15:41.67 Danny, what is the symbolism 00:15:41.70\00:15:44.74 of three angels flying in the midst of heaven? 00:15:44.77\00:15:48.14 You know, it doesn't talk about 00:15:48.18\00:15:49.91 those angels getting around with the turnips. 00:15:49.94\00:15:54.32 No, absolutely. Or the cabbages. 00:15:54.35\00:15:55.68 No, absolutely. 00:15:55.72\00:15:57.05 But it's a prophetic picture 00:15:57.09\00:15:58.42 of three angels flying in the midst of heaven. 00:15:58.45\00:16:01.22 Of the Gospel going into all the world 00:16:01.26\00:16:03.46 because if you read the three angels' messages 00:16:03.49\00:16:05.79 in Revelation 14-18, 00:16:05.83\00:16:08.26 and it basically talks about a fourth angel, 00:16:08.30\00:16:10.33 and the earth will be lightened with the glory of God. 00:16:10.37\00:16:13.27 Now, John, you and I know that a hundred years ago, 00:16:13.30\00:16:16.20 the earth couldn't be lightened with the glory of God. 00:16:16.24\00:16:18.97 You see, what I say now this is a thus sayeth, 00:16:19.01\00:16:21.04 Danny, not a thus sayeth the Lord. 00:16:21.08\00:16:22.71 But I think John the revelator saw 00:16:22.74\00:16:24.75 satellites in the midst of heaven because... 00:16:24.78\00:16:27.95 An angel-- 00:16:27.98\00:16:29.88 An angel is just a messenger, right? 00:16:29.92\00:16:32.75 And see, three angels' messages are literally around the world. 00:16:32.79\00:16:36.93 And right now 3ABN is sending signals 00:16:36.96\00:16:39.29 22,300 miles to space, covering planet earth, 00:16:39.33\00:16:43.26 going into potentially 2 billion homes. 00:16:43.30\00:16:46.43 People want to watch 3ABN and they can around the world 00:16:46.47\00:16:49.50 but the three angels' messages 00:16:49.54\00:16:51.17 is a message that has to go to the world 00:16:51.21\00:16:53.61 before Jesus comes back. 00:16:53.64\00:16:54.98 Danny, many pastors, many of our beloved church members 00:16:55.01\00:16:59.21 are trying to keep the angels down on the ground. 00:16:59.25\00:17:02.98 I'm telling you, down underneath the cabbages, 00:17:03.02\00:17:05.79 down with the turnips. 00:17:05.82\00:17:07.49 That's called loss of vision. 00:17:07.52\00:17:10.36 Well, there's no vision at all, that's absolutely true 00:17:10.39\00:17:13.63 but this message is portrayed 00:17:13.66\00:17:17.80 as three angels flying in the midst of heaven 00:17:17.83\00:17:20.70 because they can be seen up there. 00:17:20.74\00:17:22.40 Absolutely. 00:17:22.44\00:17:23.77 They can be seen up there. Absolutely. 00:17:23.81\00:17:25.14 This is a worldwide proclamation, 00:17:25.17\00:17:28.11 and one of the great sins that we have today, 00:17:28.14\00:17:31.35 one of the great sins that we face, 00:17:31.38\00:17:33.31 and that we, it afflicts us is the sin of unbelief, 00:17:33.35\00:17:38.02 and not believing the scriptures. 00:17:38.05\00:17:40.06 People say, you know, I want a quite little church, 00:17:40.09\00:17:41.92 I don't want to talk about this, 00:17:41.96\00:17:43.29 we don't want to get people concerned, 00:17:43.32\00:17:44.69 we don't certainly, don't want to upset anybody 00:17:44.73\00:17:47.23 because we're running a big public relations campaign. 00:17:47.26\00:17:50.70 But this message is the proclamation 00:17:50.73\00:17:53.20 of God's last warning message to the world. 00:17:53.23\00:17:56.30 It is God's get ready message before Jesus comes, 00:17:56.34\00:18:00.18 and it is seen as you said, with satellites, 00:18:00.21\00:18:04.01 everything else in the midst of heaven, 00:18:04.05\00:18:06.01 it's the biggest thing in the world. 00:18:06.05\00:18:07.58 John, the beautiful part of it is, 00:18:07.62\00:18:09.68 when people say why you? 00:18:09.72\00:18:11.05 You're a carpenter. 00:18:11.09\00:18:12.42 Yeah, I know why would a carpenter do this? 00:18:12.45\00:18:13.79 You didn't graduate from the seminary. 00:18:13.82\00:18:15.16 People say why you? Why there? 00:18:15.19\00:18:17.29 And I said it's showing us 00:18:17.33\00:18:19.29 God will use anybody who is willing to be used. 00:18:19.33\00:18:21.33 Yes, He will. 00:18:21.36\00:18:22.70 God uses us in spite of us not because of us. 00:18:22.73\00:18:25.23 Sometimes my dad used to say, 00:18:25.27\00:18:27.87 you know what's wrong with that preacher? 00:18:27.90\00:18:29.24 Somebody will be preaching. He's got too smart for God. 00:18:29.27\00:18:32.57 He thinks he knows it all. He is too smart for God. 00:18:32.61\00:18:35.38 But see we have to trust God 00:18:35.41\00:18:36.98 so my message to anyone watching today, 00:18:37.01\00:18:39.41 I don't care who you are, where you are from, 00:18:39.45\00:18:41.32 what your background is, 00:18:41.35\00:18:42.78 if you're willing to be used, God will use you. 00:18:42.82\00:18:45.49 I'm not a theologian you'd do a much better job 00:18:45.52\00:18:48.39 of teaching the three angels' messages 00:18:48.42\00:18:51.36 to the world than I could do but we all play our part. 00:18:51.39\00:18:54.86 God has used me to, and all of those. 00:18:54.90\00:18:57.83 See I couldn't have done this without, 00:18:57.87\00:18:59.83 you asked me did people help, 00:18:59.87\00:19:01.34 laymen began to jump in, 00:19:01.37\00:19:02.87 some church leaders began to support. 00:19:02.90\00:19:04.74 Yeah. And has there been opposition? 00:19:04.77\00:19:06.54 Always been opposition, but you know what? 00:19:06.57\00:19:08.74 This, ever since God said 00:19:08.78\00:19:10.71 build a television station to reach the world, 00:19:10.75\00:19:12.98 John, it's never quit growing 00:19:13.01\00:19:14.58 because all we've done is gone forward, 00:19:14.62\00:19:16.55 the blessing of God is on the go. 00:19:16.58\00:19:19.05 Tell me how difficult was it getting starting? 00:19:19.09\00:19:21.69 Now you're underway now the ship is going 00:19:21.72\00:19:24.69 but how difficult back in 1984? 00:19:24.73\00:19:28.53 Sure in '85. 00:19:28.56\00:19:29.90 Well, first of all I was getting people to believe, 00:19:29.93\00:19:32.33 and here it went from a dream. 00:19:32.37\00:19:34.17 In November 1984, just a dream 00:19:34.20\00:19:37.71 to building the network, putting it on the air by 1986 00:19:37.74\00:19:41.94 which in that itself is a miracle, 00:19:41.98\00:19:43.71 a satellite network shooting signals 00:19:43.75\00:19:45.85 all across at that time, North America, 00:19:45.88\00:19:48.55 now around the world. 00:19:48.58\00:19:49.92 Difficulty was getting people to look past me. 00:19:49.95\00:19:52.62 They would say, those close to me, 00:19:52.65\00:19:54.09 oh, I know him, he couldn't do that, 00:19:54.12\00:19:55.89 he doesn't know anything about television. 00:19:55.92\00:19:58.09 He doesn't, and when I talked to church leaders 00:19:58.13\00:20:00.36 they said this will never happen. 00:20:00.40\00:20:02.36 He's a carpenter, 00:20:02.40\00:20:03.73 that's what they said about the other carpenter. 00:20:03.77\00:20:05.10 They did. 00:20:05.13\00:20:06.47 But they said you'll get the signal up, 00:20:06.50\00:20:07.84 guess what happened? 00:20:07.87\00:20:09.20 Once we got the signal up to the satellite, 00:20:09.24\00:20:10.57 you know what they said? 00:20:10.61\00:20:11.94 They won't keep it up. They'll never get it down. 00:20:11.97\00:20:13.31 No, they said, they'll never get it down into the homes. 00:20:13.34\00:20:14.68 Once it got down into the homes then they said, 00:20:14.71\00:20:16.95 well, that's only for people great big dishes, 00:20:16.98\00:20:19.25 most of the world doesn't have great big dishes 00:20:19.28\00:20:21.78 so what's so special about that. 00:20:21.82\00:20:23.72 But what they didn't see and I didn't see either. 00:20:23.75\00:20:26.02 I just did, and that's what I encourage everybody today, 00:20:26.05\00:20:28.62 John, just do what God's calling you to do. 00:20:28.66\00:20:30.63 Take up one day at a time, just one step at time. 00:20:30.66\00:20:33.29 The blessing is on the go, 00:20:33.33\00:20:34.70 so as I went forward did I know that technology 00:20:34.73\00:20:37.23 would change from a million people 00:20:37.27\00:20:39.27 with big dishes in North America 00:20:39.30\00:20:41.60 to literally now I can take out my phone 00:20:41.64\00:20:44.24 which I have here, my iPhone for instance, 00:20:44.27\00:20:46.68 whatever phone you have, I can go to the appstore, 00:20:46.71\00:20:50.35 get 3ABN on six different networks, 00:20:50.38\00:20:53.52 anywhere in the world I can watch 3ABN on my phone. 00:20:53.55\00:20:55.88 Yeah, can't get away from it. 00:20:55.92\00:20:57.25 Dick Tracy brought to life, right? 00:20:57.29\00:20:58.75 I mean, how amazing is the times 00:20:58.79\00:21:00.79 in which we're living. 00:21:00.82\00:21:02.16 And now through the internet, through cable, 00:21:02.19\00:21:04.63 through downlink stations. 00:21:04.66\00:21:05.99 We're one of the largest owners of T.V. stations in America, 00:21:06.03\00:21:08.80 a network of almost 300 radio stations. 00:21:08.83\00:21:11.23 I didn't do any of that, 00:21:11.27\00:21:12.60 I give God the credit for all of it, 00:21:12.63\00:21:14.67 but I thank God for the people who caught the vision, 00:21:14.70\00:21:17.64 who believed in the undiluted three angels' messages 00:21:17.67\00:21:20.84 and for whatever reason said 00:21:20.88\00:21:22.24 we're going to put our resources there, 00:21:22.28\00:21:24.61 and because of those people, 00:21:24.65\00:21:25.98 and God bringing ministers like you 00:21:26.01\00:21:28.88 that can preach the Gospel with power 00:21:28.92\00:21:31.95 and with an anointing, 00:21:31.99\00:21:33.32 3ABN is literally reaching the world. 00:21:33.36\00:21:36.16 Praise God, Danny, I want to put something to you, 00:21:36.19\00:21:38.79 cause I have people who said to me over the years, 00:21:38.83\00:21:42.66 well this not being run by the church. 00:21:42.70\00:21:45.33 You know, this is not the church. 00:21:45.37\00:21:48.10 That's true. 00:21:48.14\00:21:49.47 But they've got bad theology, 00:21:49.50\00:21:51.51 because the church is never an institution. 00:21:51.54\00:21:53.84 Okay, alright. 00:21:53.88\00:21:55.21 The Church is always the people of God, 00:21:55.24\00:21:57.85 you are the church, you're a part of the church. 00:21:57.88\00:22:00.52 And when people say, well, no, no, 00:22:00.55\00:22:02.12 you're not the church, we're the church 00:22:02.15\00:22:04.05 because we're sitting in an office. 00:22:04.09\00:22:06.02 What they need to do, they need to go 00:22:06.05\00:22:07.99 and read the Bible, they need to read 00:22:08.02\00:22:10.36 what the Bible says about the church. 00:22:10.39\00:22:12.43 They need to read 1 Corinthians 12-14 00:22:12.46\00:22:17.67 where it talks about the organization of the church, 00:22:17.70\00:22:20.37 but the church is the, the Greek word is the laos. 00:22:20.40\00:22:24.47 People say that you got it, that's the laity. 00:22:24.51\00:22:26.61 No, the laos are people of God and 3ABN is the church, 00:22:26.64\00:22:33.78 it's a part of the church as Jesus taught. 00:22:33.82\00:22:38.39 And the Bible tells us, Danny, 00:22:38.42\00:22:40.72 when we are a part of God's church 00:22:40.76\00:22:43.59 the gates of hell will not prevail against it. 00:22:43.63\00:22:47.26 But some people need a little of enlightenment, 00:22:47.30\00:22:50.00 little bit of enlightenment, 00:22:50.03\00:22:51.37 they need to come to understand what the Bible teaches. 00:22:51.40\00:22:54.27 Well, absolutely. 00:22:54.30\00:22:55.64 We, our leaders, administrators 00:22:55.67\00:22:57.11 they're not the church, we're all the church. 00:22:57.14\00:22:58.97 They're part of the church, we're part of the church. 00:22:59.01\00:23:01.74 And Bill Hybels said a terrible heresy, 00:23:01.78\00:23:03.48 you know, he's a church growth expert 00:23:03.51\00:23:04.85 he said not all leaders are administrators, 00:23:04.88\00:23:07.52 and not all administrators are leaders. 00:23:07.55\00:23:09.05 Have mercy. 00:23:09.08\00:23:10.42 I won't comment on that, but I will tell you-- 00:23:10.45\00:23:11.99 No, but it's the truth. 00:23:12.02\00:23:13.36 That in the late 90's the church felt like 00:23:13.39\00:23:15.76 that they should take over 3ABN. 00:23:15.79\00:23:18.56 So you've had a little opposition along the way. 00:23:18.59\00:23:20.00 I had many, many meetings about it. 00:23:20.03\00:23:21.86 Now I'm not saying anything bad about the people, 00:23:21.90\00:23:24.17 I love the people, they are good people, 00:23:24.20\00:23:26.13 but people really thought this is the way it should be. 00:23:26.17\00:23:29.94 But what I said to them was this, 00:23:29.97\00:23:31.97 look, why do you want to take over 3ABN? 00:23:32.01\00:23:34.54 Well, because the tool is so powerful 00:23:34.58\00:23:36.38 it's reaching so many people, you influenced so many people. 00:23:36.41\00:23:39.45 Now you started it, we're going to take it over. 00:23:39.48\00:23:41.62 Well, my question to them 00:23:41.65\00:23:42.98 and statement actually to them was look, 00:23:43.02\00:23:45.09 you have, you know, certain institutions 00:23:45.12\00:23:47.26 and I won't go into it because we're on television 00:23:47.29\00:23:49.66 but there's a lot of things that you're not controlling 00:23:49.69\00:23:52.49 that you pay the people. 00:23:52.53\00:23:54.53 If you can't control what you have, 00:23:54.56\00:23:56.06 why would you want to control this, 00:23:56.10\00:23:57.87 who all it's doing is bringing people into the church, 00:23:57.90\00:24:00.77 thousands of people are being baptized, 00:24:00.80\00:24:02.74 you're getting the tithes from that, 00:24:02.77\00:24:04.44 we're not asking for tithes. 00:24:04.47\00:24:05.87 People send offerings, the church is growing, 00:24:05.91\00:24:08.74 why would you want to control something 00:24:08.78\00:24:10.75 when you don't have things that you have? 00:24:10.78\00:24:12.91 I mean, very simply I'd just say 00:24:12.95\00:24:15.38 why don't you go back and control what you do have? 00:24:15.42\00:24:18.15 And if I see that happening maybe I'll be interested. 00:24:18.19\00:24:20.49 But you don't give away your baby, right? 00:24:20.52\00:24:22.09 No, of course, you don't. 00:24:22.12\00:24:23.46 The Lord impressed me to build this 00:24:23.49\00:24:24.83 so I had no intentions of ever just saying okay were here, 00:24:24.86\00:24:27.76 let me turn this over to somebody and go on, 00:24:27.80\00:24:30.53 because I didn't feel it was the right thing to do. 00:24:30.57\00:24:32.60 No, it wasn't the right thing to do. 00:24:32.63\00:24:33.97 Some of the same leadership at that time 00:24:34.00\00:24:36.37 who I sat for hours and hours in meetings 00:24:36.40\00:24:39.07 and said we believe the church should take over 3ABN-- 00:24:39.11\00:24:42.64 You should have said, but we are the church. 00:24:42.68\00:24:44.01 Has said to me today I'm so thankful 00:24:44.05\00:24:47.12 you didn't listen to us. 00:24:47.15\00:24:48.48 I'm so thankful, 'cause 3ABN is able to do 00:24:48.52\00:24:52.12 more than what we've been able to do 00:24:52.15\00:24:54.02 with all of our resources. 00:24:54.06\00:24:55.52 Danny, I believe the most important thing 00:24:55.56\00:24:58.19 that is taught in the Bible, 00:24:58.23\00:24:59.73 is the preaching of the Gospel of Christ. 00:24:59.76\00:25:01.63 Amen. 00:25:01.66\00:25:03.00 Romans 1 says, "I'm not ashamed of the Gospel, 00:25:03.03\00:25:05.77 because it is the power of God 00:25:05.80\00:25:07.20 for the salvation of everyone who believes, 00:25:07.24\00:25:09.34 to the Jew first and also to the Greek." 00:25:09.37\00:25:12.74 When it says Gospel there, Danny, 00:25:12.77\00:25:14.64 you know and I know it means 00:25:14.68\00:25:16.71 it's the Greek word for good news. 00:25:16.75\00:25:21.08 Good news is about what somebody has done. 00:25:21.12\00:25:24.09 News is not about you, it's not about me, 00:25:24.12\00:25:28.02 it's the good news of what God has done for us, 00:25:28.06\00:25:30.39 it's the story of the Cross. 00:25:30.43\00:25:32.86 And the power of the Gospel is found 00:25:32.89\00:25:35.03 in the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ 00:25:35.06\00:25:37.67 who died for our sins some 2000 years ago now 00:25:37.70\00:25:43.14 but he died for our sins. 00:25:43.17\00:25:45.41 Is 3ABN leading people to the Cross and to Christ? 00:25:45.44\00:25:50.35 Absolutely, John, and that's our whole purpose, 00:25:50.38\00:25:53.18 is not to tell people what you don't know, 00:25:53.21\00:25:55.98 or make people look bad, 00:25:56.02\00:25:57.35 or say let me show you something 00:25:57.39\00:25:58.75 that we know that you don't know. 00:25:58.79\00:26:00.32 All of this, the three angels' messages 00:26:00.36\00:26:02.59 would not be important if it were some doctrine 00:26:02.62\00:26:05.99 over to the side or some do or some don't that people do. 00:26:06.03\00:26:09.86 What's so important about the three angels' messages? 00:26:09.90\00:26:12.70 It's a revelation, 00:26:12.73\00:26:14.44 it's a revealing of Jesus Christ. 00:26:14.47\00:26:16.04 Absolutely. 00:26:16.07\00:26:17.41 So now we're simple unveiling 00:26:17.44\00:26:19.54 or revealing to Jesus Christ to the lost 00:26:19.57\00:26:22.81 and dying world that many folk have never seen. 00:26:22.84\00:26:25.48 So it's all about the good news of Jesus Christ. 00:26:25.51\00:26:29.02 It's very simply this, John, 00:26:29.05\00:26:30.72 we're all born sinners on this world, 00:26:30.75\00:26:33.52 we cannot work our way into heaven. 00:26:33.56\00:26:35.09 No, we can't. 00:26:35.12\00:26:36.46 Jesus says if you confess your sins, 00:26:36.49\00:26:37.96 well, what I'm a sinner? 00:26:37.99\00:26:39.86 All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. 00:26:39.89\00:26:42.03 Then He says but if you confess your sins, 00:26:42.06\00:26:44.57 I will be faithful and just to forgive you 00:26:44.60\00:26:46.63 from your sins and to cleanse you 00:26:46.67\00:26:48.64 from all unrighteousness. 00:26:48.67\00:26:50.41 Then He says this, go and tell what I have done for you. 00:26:50.44\00:26:53.21 I tell everyone, your greatest asset 00:26:53.24\00:26:55.41 that you have today is not your education, 00:26:55.44\00:26:58.45 it's not how rich you are, how poor you are, 00:26:58.48\00:27:01.18 you're greatest asset is your own personal testimony 00:27:01.22\00:27:03.99 of what God has for you. 00:27:04.02\00:27:06.05 Now you go tell others what Jesus has done for you. 00:27:06.09\00:27:09.42 If I be lifted up from this earth 00:27:09.46\00:27:11.36 will draw all men unto me. 00:27:11.39\00:27:13.09 And we're going to continue this our next program 00:27:13.13\00:27:15.66 which is going to be vetted through this program. 00:27:15.70\00:27:18.13 My friend, you're listening to The Carter Report 00:27:18.17\00:27:20.80 and my guest is the founder of 3ABN, Danny Shelton. 00:27:20.84\00:27:25.34 We're going to put some addresses up on the screen, 00:27:25.37\00:27:27.61 I urge you today to support this faith ministry, 00:27:27.64\00:27:32.21 put your money, friend, into the work of God, 00:27:32.25\00:27:35.35 and sow your seed into good soil. 00:27:35.38\00:27:38.49 Write to Danny Shelton at 3ABN 00:27:38.52\00:27:41.29 and the address is now on the screen. 00:27:41.32\00:27:44.33 Support the preaching of the three angels' messages. 00:27:44.36\00:27:47.66 And remember to also write to me John Carter, 00:27:47.70\00:27:50.33 Post office Box 1900, 00:27:50.37\00:27:52.07 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 00:27:52.10\00:27:55.14 Our address for Australia is also on the screen. 00:27:55.17\00:27:58.91 Till next time. 00:27:58.94\00:28:00.28 Goodbye for now, and God bless you. 00:28:00.31\00:28:01.74