"The Carter Report" presents,
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The Living Word
around the world.
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Hello, friend, I'm John Carter.
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Welcome today to
the Carter Report.
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The topic is "The Inside Story."
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We've had the privilege
of traveling the world,
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preaching the gospel.
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We've seen hundreds
of thousands of people
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steeped in darkness,
superstition, heathenism,
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come to the knowledge of Christ,
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come to the
knowledge of the light.
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We've got two team
members here with us today,
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Susan Piraino and Alan De Leon.
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They've got some
tremendous stories,
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hot from the heart of
God to share with you today.
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Welcome, my friend,
to the Carter Report.
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You can have all the silver
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You can have all the gold
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Just give me Jesus
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You can have all the wisdom
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This earth can hold
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Just give me Jesus
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Give me Jesus when I'm lonely
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And I've nowhere to go
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Give me Jesus
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He's the only
One who loves me so
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Give me Jesus
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Because Jesus is all I need
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You can have all the spotlights
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You can have all the fame
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Just give me Jesus
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You can have all the success
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Have your well-known name
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Just give me Jesus
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Give me Jesus,
Jesus When I'm lonely
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And I've nowhere to go
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Give me Jesus He's the only
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One who loves
me so Give me Jesus
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because Jesus is all I need
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He's been my closest friend
when no one seemed to care
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Hi, friend, I'm John Carter.
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Welcome today to
the Carter Report.
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Two special
guests are with me today
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here in the
Carter Report Studio.
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Susan Piraino,
welcome today, Susan.
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Thank you, Pastor Carter.
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Alan De Leon,
welcome today, Alan.
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Thank you so
much, Pastor Carter.
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You're two super team
members and we love you to death
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and you've made a
great contribution
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to the cause of God.
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You've traveled
with me now overseas.
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Alan, recently you
went down to where?
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El Salvador.
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We were setting
up in the stadium,
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the Cuscatlan Stadium.
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This is the largest
venue that they do have
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available in El Salvador.
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Did you know, it's the
largest one in Inter America?
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Yes, as well.
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Yes, I mean, we're talking
here about a big stadium.
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And of course, Susan, we
only had a few people come.
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We had a packed house.
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Praise God. Yeah.
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And it was wonderful to see--
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Bigger than the crowds
often for football matches.
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That's correct and, you
know, I-- at the same time
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they were having some big
concert across the nation,
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but it didn't--
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I never knew this.
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It didn't seem
to affect us at all
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because we were
to capacity so...
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Why did people come
in El Salvador, Alan,
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to the biggest football
stadium in Central America?
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What was the pulling
power? Tell me, please.
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I definitely feel like it
was the Holy Spirit at work.
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Just through all the small
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sponsored
Carter Report campaigns
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that were--
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that took place
throughout the country
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in the months before,
the anticipation was building
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and the venue itself just
drew all of these people here.
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But the organization
of all the members there,
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the local churches,
all the pastors as well,
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they did a tremendous job,
just to drag all of the people,
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not necessarily drag, but
they enticed them to come,
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because the Holy Spirit
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really was working
in all of these areas.
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Yeah, they were
just breaking their necks
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to get in, these people.
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Right.
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You know, they
wanted to be there,
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because this was something.
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Susan, what
impressed you the most?
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You were there. Yes.
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Yes, we were there
and we were able to meet
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with a lot of the local people.
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We were able to talk to them.
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We were able to mix a
bit, as you might think,
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because before we can't,
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because there
were language barriers.
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But this time we
were able to meet
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and people were just telling
us that they were so excited
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because they never realized
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that the-- the gospel
or the message of Christ
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would attract so many people
and this stadium would be full.
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And usually the stadium--
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a lot of people didn't
have an opportunity to go there,
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they couldn't afford
to enter the stadium.
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So...
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Now tell me about the
vice-president who came.
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The vice-president, the
young lady, I don't know.
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Were you able to
see her? Very charming.
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Yes, very.
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She had some of her family. Yes.
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And she came and she
was up in the special boxes
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that they have, private
boxes and she was up there
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and she just was
eating up everything
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that she was hearing
about the gospel and the Bible.
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Well, I met a party
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and that included the
Mayor of San Salvador.
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Correct.
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And she was the--
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a person who'd serve the country
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as the vice-president
for a number of years.
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She said this,
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"I want to thank you
and your team for coming,
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because these messages are just
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what our nation
needs at this time."
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And it's what's needed
around the world at this time.
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And she said, "We
need to hear the gospel."
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Think of the
suffering, my friends,
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that this
country has gone through.
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You know, the tens of thousands
of people who've been murdered.
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Right.
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Now, think of the gangs
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and then think of
the natural disasters,
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the earthquakes and--
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Oh, right. And
the terrible famines.
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Even volcanoes.
And the volcanoes.
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There was a lot of negativity
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surrounding the
area at that time,
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and I believe that we were
able to go and provide relief
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and much needed
love to the people.
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Alan, when we drove
around the city, though,
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did you see people with guns?
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Yes. Lot of guns?
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There was definitely a
lot of people who had guns.
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Shotguns. Yeah, that's right.
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Yes, very big guns.
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Everywhere you went.
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Yes, it did seem like that.
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A lot of people had some
type of firearm with them.
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Obviously, the security
team that we had with us also,
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but there was
never really a sense that
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we were gonna be attacked.
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We never felt unsafe
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and we just felt
this calming sense
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that we could go
and get the work done
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and not feel nervous at all.
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And what was amazing,
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in the meeting, it
seemed so peaceful.
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Right.
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You know, I'd walk
out there every night,
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a huge crowd of people.
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Sometimes walk out in
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pitch blackness with spotlights.
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Yeah.
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I was in the
safest place in the world.
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That's right. You know why?
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'Cause the Lord
had His hands over you.
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God wanted us to be
there. That's right.
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And none of us were in a place
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where we were
afraid for one moment.
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I mean, where do
you go in a stadium
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where there's
55,000-60,000 people
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and there's not
some kind of problem?
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You know, where there's
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fighting
breaking out or anything
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and we never had any
sort of news of any problems
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within the stadium.
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The Bible tells us
this that the gospel
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is the power of
God unto salvation
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to everyone who believes,
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to the Jew first
and also to the Greek.
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So the gospel is
the power of God.
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And if you have the
gospel in your heart,
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you got the power of God
and you don't have to be afraid
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because Jesus said,
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"I'll never leave
you nor forsake you."
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Amen. That's correct.
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Now we specialize in
going to dangerous places.
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We sure have.
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Susan, you
didn't go at that time,
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Alan, because you've only
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just been with
us for a short time.
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Yes.
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Tell me about
PNG and Port Moresby.
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Yeah, I wish Alan would've
been able to be with us then
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because that was a
different experience
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in terms of the people.
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And as you said,
I think it's listed
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as one of the most
dangerous places in the world.
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It's supposed to be
the most dangerous city.
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Right and-- Port Moresby.
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But, you know, once
again, I never felt afraid.
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I never felt that I needed
to be worried about my safety.
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There always seemed to be
a sense of calm and just--
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there was nothing
to be worried about
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while you were in the stadium.
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Now some nights
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and as we got towards
the close of the meetings,
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how many people were sitting
out there in the stadium?
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Goodness, I think we
had over 150,000 people.
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And you're right, and have
you heard that there were--
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Other, other venues. Yes.
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I think there
were two other venues
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outside of the stadium itself.
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Yes.
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Because
obviously we couldn't see.
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It is kind of far away,
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but there were
two separate areas
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where the people
were also congregating
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because they could
hear the message from there.
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It's amazing.
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And they said a
lot of these groups
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were a lot of the gangs
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and the, and the different gangs
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and lot of different
groups and gangs in PNG
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and so the gangs kind of
were in their area together
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but they were all
listening to the gospel,
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which was pretty
amazing if you think about it.
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Alan, today you're
going to discover this
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that some of the
biggest opposition we get,
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to this work, is not out
there in the wicked bad world,
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it's inside the church.
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And people come to me--
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some of my peers
come to me and they say,
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"John, don't you realize
that this is out of date?
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We don't do it any more."
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I have a message for them.
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Listen, my friend, the
church in the western world,
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the best church growth,
experts say, is a dying church.
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And you know why
they don't do it?
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Because it's a lot of hard work.
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It's terrible lot of hard work
and it costs a lot of money.
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Right. Exactly.
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But we do it and I would
tell the people out there
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who are watching
the television program,
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I'll tell you why we do it.
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We do it because
the Bible commands it.
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That's right.
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You say, "No, no,
no, you got it wrong,
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the Bible doesn't command it."
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Jesus said something like this,
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"Go into all the world,
and do this and do that."
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He said, "Preach."
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What did he say, Susie?
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He said, "Go into all the world
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and preach the
everlasting gospel."
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Yes. And so what does that mean?
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Does that mean we stay home
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and we just go to
church and talk to each other?
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No. It says, "Go out."
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So it means sometimes
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you got to leave
your comfort zone.
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And we all have
that responsibility
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as Christians to
be able to do that
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to any capacity that we have.
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Susie, tell the people about
the night of the white dove.
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Because the white dove came on,
I'm told, on three occasions.
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Correct.
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And a person who was up there
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sent me a little video
that he took with his iPhone.
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Yeah, that was amazing.
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Tell us about that.
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Well, he wrote in,
just recently actually--
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Yes, he did.
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And said that he would
come and he had his iPhone on,
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because he wanted
to record the music.
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So it was going
on. He just left it on.
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And unbeknownst to him,
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it was on when he
heard the crowd sort of roar,
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because when it
flew over the stadium,
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the crowd sort of roared
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and he actually
captured it on his phone
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and he sent us the
link to the little video
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that he actually
recorded of the dove,
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which was pretty amazing.
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Did you know the dove came
at the time of the baptism,
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out in the ocean
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when thousands of people
were baptized out in the ocean.
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It came on two different
nights to the meetings.
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Correct.
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Alan, the amazing thing is this,
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listen to this.
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All of the locals say,
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they had never seen
that white dove before
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in the history of PNG.
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Which made it all
the more impressive
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that it was there.
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They believed that
this was a visitation of God
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to tell them that surely
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the presence of the
Lord is in this place.
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And it was an
impressive email, even to read.
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I remember receiving that
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and going through
all the information,
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clicking on the link
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and watching the
video for myself.
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It was just amazing to see that
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that one person who
decided to write to us
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that information
actually had all the video,
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and you could see
it, plain and clear,
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and I just had
to bring it to you.
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It was actually
really exciting to see.
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So we believe, it's in our souls
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that we are living in
the day of God's power.
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Definitely.
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We believe that
the power of the gospel
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is unequalled in the world.
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The problem is we
hold on to it ourselves
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and we don't let
it go into the world.
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That's right.
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But when the gospel is preached
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with the presence
of the Holy Spirit,
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the white dove comes.
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You know, that's a
powerful thing to know
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that, you know, here God is,
you know, showing us His power
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and saying, you
know, "Here I am.
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You've stepped out. You've gone.
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You've done what
I've asked you to do
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and now I'll show you
that I'm there with you."
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And that's what the
pow-- the dove showed to us,
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and He was there.
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You're watching
the Carter Report,
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I'm John Carter.
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Stay with us, we'll
back in just a moment
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with other
stories from the inside.
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God has His time and
His place for everything.
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And the time and the
place now is Latin America,
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including Cuba.
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Time Magazine talks about
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the Second
Protestant Reformation
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and describes how
hundreds of thousands,
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even millions of Latinos are
coming to the gospel of Christ.
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I'm not an armchair theologian.
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I'm speaking
according to experience.
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I've seen it with my own eyes.
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Recently we went
down to El Salvador.
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There I spoke in the
largest football stadium
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in Central America
with the biggest crowd
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that that football
stadium had ever, ever seen.
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They came, not to
see a football match,
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but to hear about
the blood of Christ.
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Millions are coming
to a knowledge of God
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in Latin America.
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Doors are opening in Cuba.
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Who knows? We may
be going to Cuba soon.
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As the doors open
by the grace of God,
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we are going to
step through those doors
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and we want you to step
through those doors with us
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and be part of our team
for such a time as this.
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Please write to me,
friend, don't put it off.
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Write to me, John
Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
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Thousand Oaks,
California, 91358.
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In Australia, write to me
at Terrigal, New South Wales.
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Be part of the
Second Reformation.
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Join us and see
the miracles of God.
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Amen.
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You're watching
the Carter Report.
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I'm John Carter.
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Welcome back to
this great program,
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The Inside Story.
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Susie? Yes.
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Some people think
we're sort of crazy,
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because we do evangelism.
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Alan, you're a new
member of the team.
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You've been with
us to El Salvador.
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We hope that soon
we'll be going to where?
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Cuba. Cuba.
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Cuba, yes. Hear
that, my friend? Cuba.
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We've got our eyes on Cuba.
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Cuba is opening up.
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We like going to new places.
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That's right. And tough places.
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That's right and
that would be tough.
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I would be
waiting. Don't you think?
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Oh, it's gonna be
amazing going to Cuba.
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Yeah, it's gonna be amazing.
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We're gonna see the
power of God in Cuba.
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Praise God.
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I feel like the
people are ready.
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Absolutely.
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Susie, why do you do this work?
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Why do I do it?
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Yeah, 'cause people
say, "Why do evangelism?
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Nobody does evangelism anymore."
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People will write to
me, "Why do evangelism?"
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Why do you do it?
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Because I love the Lord
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and I've seen what He
can do in my life personally
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and I would love to see that,
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give that opportunity
to everybody out there.
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Now here's a tough one.
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What's the biblical
basis for public evangelism?
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Well, it's God's word and
it's the great commission.
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You know, in Mathew I
think it's 28, where He says,
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"Go into all the
world and preach."
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I mean, it's
pretty plain, isn't it?
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Preach.
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He doesn't say, "Go into
the world and make friends
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or go into the
world and, you know,
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share that-- share something."
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But he says, "Preach."
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And when you
preach, what does that do?
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It allows God's word to
be spread among His people
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and it's not a responsibility
that falls on a select few,
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but everyone.
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Do you believe, Alan,
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that there is a
biblical-theological basis
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for public and
private evangelism?
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Definitely.
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It allows your life
to be influenced by God
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in a very serious
and very personal way
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and in turn that allows you
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to affect others for
God's greater purpose
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and it allows you to be a light,
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a beacon of
reflecting Jesus' personality
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in all things that you do.
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And it allows
you to affect others
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and I believe that's just
an amazing thing to experience.
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Alan, Susan, let me
share with you a little heresy.
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It's a heresy in the
eyes of the unbelieving.
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Not only the unbelieving,
but sincere, good people
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who do not really understand
the truth of the Bible.
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The Bible teaches that
without Christ we're lost.
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That's right.
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I believe that
with all my heart.
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You believe that? Yes, indeed.
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Why would you
believe such a heresy?
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Because I hear some
preachers who tell me,
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"All you've got
to do is be sincere."
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Well, if that were the case
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then why would be
bothered to preach the gospel?
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If we're just good
people and just go around--
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Well, that's what they say,
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they say, "There's no
need to preach the gospel."
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Then there was no need
for Jesus to die on the cross,
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was there?
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Can you think of any text
in the Bible that tells me
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that we're lost
without Christ, Jesus Christ?
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There's a text
that says that exactly,
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"We're lost without Christ."
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I can't think
of the particular--
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You're thinking
of Ephesians 2. Yes.
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I think it says--
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It says that pretty
much straightforward.
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It says-- We are--
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"Without hope and
without God in the world."
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That's right.
That's Ephesians 2.
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And isn't that--
that's as plain as can be,
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"Without hope and
without God in the world."
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That's Ephesians 2.
Did you hear that, friend?
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That's Ephesians 2.
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You may not get that
on the church manual,
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but you'll get it in the Bible.
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I think the church
manual would support it too.
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Ephesians 2 says
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that people without
Christ are without God
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and without hope in the world
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and that is why we go into all
the world to preach the gospel.
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Don't believe the heresy
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that every person is
saved without Christ.
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No.
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Can you think of
what Jesus said, Alan?
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You know, I'm putting
you folks on the spot.
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Oh, well, I would say
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it's to go out into the world
and preach, preach His gospel
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and that's just
the great commission
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as you mentioned before.
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It's something that all
of us have the ability to do.
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There are only select people
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that us as Christians
have the ability to reach
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through our personal
interactions with them,
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through relationships
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and it's our
responsibility to teach
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as many people as
possible about the love of God
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and it's not so much to advance
but it's to help and improve
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the lives of others
that we come across.
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You know, Jesus
said, these are His words.
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Jesus said, "I am the way.
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I am the truth.
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I am the life."
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Not the religion
of some other person,
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not some other prophet.
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No, Jesus is
the way, the truth--
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And the life. And the life.
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That's the end of case.
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Can I tell you a little story?
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I went out to Australia
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some time ago
back to my homeland.
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I was picked up at the
airport by a taxi driver
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who started to tell me
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.26
the good news
about the Islamic faith.
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I got it all
the way to my hotel.
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He did it
engagingly, lovingly, he said,
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"I want to see you
in the kingdom of God."
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He said, "I believe in one God
and Mohammad is his prophet."
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Then he gave me CDs, DVDs.
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He hugged me.
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I never met a single
Christian in Australia
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who tried to win me to Christ.
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That's an unfortunate--
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And that is why the
Muslim faith is roaring ahead
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and the Christian church,
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my friend, in the western
world is marching backwards
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and that is why there needs
to be a change in our thinking.
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Definitely.
Right. Don't you think?
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He obviously had a
passion, didn't he?
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Yeah, he had a passion.
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Because he believed
that he was onto something.
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Now, Susie and Alan,
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you both went to El Salvador.
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Alan, you've
just joined our team.
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You're gonna go to other places.
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We hope Cuba.
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Yes, certainly,
and we're excited
00:22:13.60\00:22:15.20
and we're really hoping
that God opens the doors for us
00:22:15.23\00:22:17.23
to go there.
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But think of the toughness
of the place we went to,
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the land of more
than a billion souls
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and a hundred million gods.
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India. India. India.
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What happened in India?
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That was a
different place altogether.
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I mean, talk about lots of gods
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and the worship
of many, many gods
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and boy, confusion
and just people that--
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and people are
looking to worship something.
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And, you know,
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when you're presenting
the gospel of Jesus Christ
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then there's no
need for other gods.
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You have the only God you need
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and we saw the
impact that this ministry
00:22:48.50\00:22:52.17
that the Carter
Report made in India
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in sharing the gospel
00:22:54.10\00:22:55.44
and thousands upon thousands
coming night after night,
00:22:55.47\00:22:58.14
and once again we heard
it's not gonna work here
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and people won't come.
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No, impossible.
00:23:01.58\00:23:02.91
It can't be done. Won't be done.
00:23:02.94\00:23:04.28
No one's gonna come. No, no, no.
00:23:04.31\00:23:05.65
And we saw the opposite.
00:23:05.68\00:23:07.02
We've seen that
every single time.
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So we know that God
has His hand upon the work
00:23:08.55\00:23:10.79
that we're doing here.
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The tough question
towards you, Alan, now.
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These campaigns costs hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
00:23:14.22\00:23:16.76
People say that's too much.
00:23:16.79\00:23:18.66
That's a terrible thing to say.
00:23:18.69\00:23:20.03
Definitely.
00:23:20.06\00:23:21.40
How much is a soul worth?
00:23:21.43\00:23:22.76
But who pays the
bills for these campaigns?
00:23:22.80\00:23:24.60
El Salvador, India,
where David goes to work.
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David has a passion for India,
Papua New Guinea, The Solomon.
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Who pays the bills? Well, we do.
00:23:31.97\00:23:35.11
Being able to work
here and see firsthand
00:23:35.14\00:23:37.41
everything that moves in
and out of this ministry,
00:23:37.45\00:23:40.32
you'd be surprised
to witness all the money
00:23:40.35\00:23:42.78
that we do have to spend
on these types of things.
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A lot of people seem to see
the final product of what we do
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and they think it just kind
of all comes together magically.
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But there is a lot of work
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and a lot of time
and a lot of money
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that goes into
putting all of this together
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and having it
done professionally,
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which is very
important and I believe that
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that all culminates into
winning souls for Christ.
00:24:03.64\00:24:06.74
Now, Alan and Susan,
when you went to El Salvador,
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and, Susan, when you
went to Russia and India
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and David was in
charge of the preparation.
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Preparing for the meetings,
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is that a big
deal or is it easy?
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Tell me about that.
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It's a lot of
work that goes unseen.
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You arrive and you expect
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a certain amount
of work to be done
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and you expect your
progress to be smooth
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or you're hoping it's smooth.
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But there are many challenges
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and a lot of things
that you can't prepare for.
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What would you compare it unto?
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Any big rock
concert, any big stadium show,
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anything that
involves a lot of moving pieces
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'cause that's
exactly what happens.
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Now more people
come to these campaigns
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than go to a general conference.
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Yes, and
there's-- Many, many times.
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And there's thousands of people
there and you want to make sure
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that the program
is delivered in a way
00:24:55.76\00:24:57.79
that attracts them
and engages them as well.
00:24:57.83\00:25:01.73
How many people,
often, at the meeting, Susan?
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Oh, in El Salvador we had
every night it was packed.
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So and every
place we've been to--
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Now we're talking
about tens of thousands
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or hundreds of
thousands of people.
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Exactly.
00:25:13.38\00:25:14.71
And a tremendous job
00:25:14.74\00:25:16.71
that my team does
with local people,
00:25:16.75\00:25:20.05
building a huge stage.
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Building the stage, the sound,
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everything, the
whole environment,
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the entire setup
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and normally we have
three days to do this in.
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So you're
looking at a huge setup,
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which is-- it means
round the clock working
00:25:31.29\00:25:33.63
for teams of people to be able
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to have this done
in a timely manner.
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Why do people do this
and why do people support us
00:25:37.50\00:25:41.07
and why do they send offerings?
00:25:41.10\00:25:42.54
Why do people do this?
00:25:42.57\00:25:43.91
Because they see the
difference that we're making,
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I see.
00:25:45.81\00:25:47.14
Yeah, they can see in
the work that we're doing
00:25:47.18\00:25:48.61
that we're affecting lives.
00:25:48.64\00:25:49.98
And if it wasn't productive,
I believe that those stadiums
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wouldn't be as
full as they were.
00:25:53.52\00:25:55.75
They're packed to the rafters
with people who're just hungry
00:25:55.78\00:25:57.92
to hear the gospel.
00:25:57.95\00:25:59.29
And seeing souls saved
and we've seen it in Australia
00:25:59.32\00:26:04.29
at the Opera
House, The Dallas Brooks.
00:26:04.33\00:26:06.56
We've seen it
downtown at the Shrine.
00:26:06.59\00:26:09.30
We've seen it in
Africa. We've seen it in India.
00:26:09.33\00:26:12.97
We've seen it in
Russia and Ukraine
00:26:13.00\00:26:15.57
and the isles of the sea.
00:26:15.60\00:26:17.01
So nobody tell
me it doesn't work.
00:26:17.04\00:26:20.08
If it doesn't work, it's
because you and I don't work.
00:26:20.11\00:26:23.11
But it's time for us to work.
00:26:23.14\00:26:24.61
That's right.
00:26:24.65\00:26:25.98
We have a big job to do still
00:26:26.01\00:26:27.35
and God is
opening the doors for us
00:26:27.38\00:26:29.38
and we're praying now that
he's opened the doors for us
00:26:29.42\00:26:31.25
to go to Cuba.
00:26:31.29\00:26:32.62
Time is running out.
Tell me about Cuba, fast.
00:26:32.65\00:26:34.42
Well, Cuba, as you
know, has been closed
00:26:34.46\00:26:36.19
and campaigns
have not existed there.
00:26:36.22\00:26:39.53
I preached there, though.
You preached at a church.
00:26:39.56\00:26:41.83
But this time we hope
to go to a public venue.
00:26:41.86\00:26:43.37
Yes.
00:26:43.40\00:26:44.73
And open to the
general public. Yes.
00:26:44.77\00:26:46.60
And that I think would have
00:26:46.63\00:26:47.97
such a dramatic impact
on the population there,
00:26:48.00\00:26:50.77
it would be incredible.
00:26:50.81\00:26:52.14
All the people are there waiting
00:26:52.17\00:26:53.51
and I believe that we
can have a tremendous effect
00:26:53.54\00:26:55.81
just because of the isolation
00:26:55.84\00:26:57.18
that they've
experienced for so many years.
00:26:57.21\00:26:58.55
Okay, I've got to wind this up.
00:26:58.58\00:26:59.91
Tell me quickly,
Alan, are you pleased,
00:26:59.95\00:27:02.12
are you glad that you're
a part of an organization
00:27:02.15\00:27:05.25
that believes in evangelism?
00:27:05.29\00:27:06.62
Tremendously.
00:27:06.65\00:27:07.99
I believe that it
affects my life personally
00:27:08.02\00:27:09.52
and by allowing
me to affect others
00:27:09.56\00:27:11.59
and it's a great blessing.
00:27:11.63\00:27:12.96
I'm just so thankful
to be able to do that.
00:27:12.99\00:27:14.33
Susan, you've been
with me now for 22 years.
00:27:14.36\00:27:16.93
As I said, I didn't
know you're 22 years, okay,
00:27:19.13\00:27:21.34
but has it been
a blessing to you?
00:27:21.37\00:27:23.37
The biggest blessing in my life
00:27:23.41\00:27:24.87
and God has turned my life
around through this ministry
00:27:24.91\00:27:27.28
and I'm eternally
grateful and I pray that
00:27:27.31\00:27:29.31
we can give that
opportunity to many others.
00:27:29.34\00:27:31.31
Thank you.
00:27:31.35\00:27:32.68
You've been two
super really good guests.
00:27:32.71\00:27:35.52
And I want to thank you
00:27:35.55\00:27:36.89
for being a part
of our program today.
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.85
You've been
watching the Carter Report
00:27:38.89\00:27:40.89
with Susan
Piraino, Alan De Leon.
00:27:40.92\00:27:44.13
We believe in Christ.
00:27:44.16\00:27:45.59
We believe in the
preaching of the gospel.
00:27:45.63\00:27:47.96
We believe in the Word of God.
00:27:48.00\00:27:50.73
This is in our souls.
00:27:50.77\00:27:53.50
And we ask you
in the name of Jesus
00:27:53.54\00:27:56.24
support the preaching of Christ.
00:27:56.27\00:27:59.57
This is not a secondary work.
00:27:59.61\00:28:01.58
This is the most important
work in all of the world.
00:28:01.61\00:28:05.35
Stand with us.
00:28:05.38\00:28:06.72
Write to me please.
00:28:06.75\00:28:08.08
John Carter,
Post Office Box 1900,
00:28:08.12\00:28:10.39
Thousand Oaks, California.
00:28:10.42\00:28:11.99
In Australia
write to me, Terrigal.
00:28:12.02\00:28:14.52
You can contact us online.
00:28:14.56\00:28:17.46
But remember that Jesus said,
00:28:17.49\00:28:19.83
"Go into all the
world, preach the gospel.
00:28:19.86\00:28:23.13
He who believes and is
baptized will be saved."
00:28:23.16\00:28:27.94
Believe it.
00:28:27.97\00:28:29.30
It is the Word of God.
00:28:29.34\00:28:30.67
God bless you.
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