"The Carter Report" presents,
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The Living Word
around the world.
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Hello, friend, I'm John Carter.
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Welcome today to
the Carter Report.
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Our ministry it's
only a little ministry,
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that has a vision
as big as the world
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and that is preaching
the everlasting gospel
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in some of the
toughest places in the world.
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We've had the
privilege of going 42 times
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to the old Soviet Union,
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that bastion of
atheism and communism.
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And more recently
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we've gone down
south of the border,
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down to El Salvador
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and there we've seen
tens of thousands of souls
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accept the Lord Jesus Christ.
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I have two special guests today,
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Susan Piraino and Alan De Leon.
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Welcome today, my
friend, to the Carter Report.
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You can have all the silver
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You can have all the gold
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Just give me Jesus
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You can have all the
wisdom this earth can hold
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Just give me Jesus
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Give me Jesus
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When I'm lonely
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And I've nowhere to go
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Give me Jesus
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He's the only
one who loved me so
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Give me Jesus because
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Jesus is all I need
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You can have all the spotlight
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You call have all the fame
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Just give me Jesus
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You can have all the success
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Have your well known name
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Just give me Jesus
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Give me Jesus
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When I'm lonely
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And I've nowhere to go
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Give me Jesus
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He's the only
one who loved me so
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Give me Jesus because
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Jesus is all I need
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He is my closest friend
when no one seem to care
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Welcome to the Carter Report.
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I'm John Carter.
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Susan Piraino, we're delighted
to have you with us today.
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Glad to be here
today, Pastor Carter.
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Alan De Leon, we are glad
to have you with us today.
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Thank you very
much, Pastor Carter.
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You're both members of
the Carter Report team.
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Yes. Yes.
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Recently Alan, you went
with us to what country?
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We went to El Salvador
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and it was an amazing
life changing experience.
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Having the opportunity
to go and witness to people,
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who were hungry to hear the
word of God, was life changing.
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And watching them
learn and begin to understand
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and put together why we
do the things that we do,
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it's all right there
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and I got to
witness it in person.
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Tell me about El Salvador?
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I was so
impressed just by the people
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and the organization in general.
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Arriving there and
seeing the team work
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of all the local pastors,
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including all the
local pathfinders as well,
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just organizing all the people,
done in such a organized,
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well mannered sense
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and that itself
just blew me away
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and the fact
that they were willing
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and ready to hear our word.
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And it is a land
that has suffered
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incredible
suffering, has it not?
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Yes, it has.
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During the days of the gangs
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and the fighting
with the militia,
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more than 70,000 people
put to death by hit squads
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and awful
happenings in El Salvador.
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Terrible earthquakes
and famines and pestilences
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and we discovered
they were the people
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who are hungry for God.
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Yes. Indeed.
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Susan, what were your
impressions of El Salvador?
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This inter-American country,
what does it mean El Salvador?
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El Salvador means
the savior and so...
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So it's a Roman
Catholic country?
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Yes, very much so.
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And it was exciting for me
because this is the first time
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that the Carter Report
has gone into Latin America
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and I was excited to be able to
now communicate with the people
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because
normally Russia, Ukraine,
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we always have
to have translators
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and so since we speak Spanish,
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it was so nice to
be able to just talk
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directly to the people.
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What did you see in El Salvador
that moved in your heart
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and touched your soul?
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Well, there were a
lot of things actually
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that touched my soul.
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One of the most important is,
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when you see the
people being baptized
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and we saw
thousands being baptized
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and just the fact
that they were coming
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and they were
with the translation
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they were able to hear
the gospel, the true gospel.
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That was, that was wonderful
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to be able to
see in Latin America.
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It's a very difficult
thing to hear the true gospel.
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Now once upon a
time in Latin America,
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people like us
couldn't go there and preach.
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Right, right.
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So where were the
meetings held, Alan?
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Uh, those meetings were
held in a large stadium,
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Estadio Cuscatlan, one
of the largest stadiums...
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Say it again. Estadio Cuscatlan.
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You say it better than me.
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Yeah.
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Well, thankfully
we got to utilize
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our Spanish
skills being down there
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and it was just
great having to hear
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by the people
themselves from them uh,
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what they were experiencing,
how they were feeling,
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getting to speak
to them one on one
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and just to witness with
them, uh, it was tremendous.
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And to let our viewers know,
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that's the biggest football
stadium in inter-America.
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And the place
was it half filled,
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quarter filled or... Packed.
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It was packed.
Yeah, packed to the doors.
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That was exciting to see
it, to see it start filling up.
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Did you know that,
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one of the leaders of
another denomination said,
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"If they get a
hundred people in there,
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I'll eat my hat."
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He's got a lot of hats to eat.
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We've heard that a few
times I think, haven't we?
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Yes.
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And so we saw the
great power of God
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and we saw tens of
thousands of people
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packed the biggest football
stadium in Central America.
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Yes, indeed.
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Susan, for how many years
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have you been
with the Carter Report?
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I have been with
the Carter Report
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now for 22 years.
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Uh, what about you, Alan?
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I've only been
working for the Carter Report
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for about a year and half.
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So, 22 years and
about a year and half.
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Susan, you've
done a special work
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with the Carter Report ministry.
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You've traveled
to Russia and Ukraine
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and Siberia and Solomon Islands.
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Give me some others.
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Uh, South Africa to
PNG, Papua New Guinea,
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of course El
Salvador, India, we went to...
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Of course, let's
not forget India.
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Hong Kong, China,
we went through China.
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So I've been through, every year
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that we've run a campaign,
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I've had the privilege
of being part of the team.
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So how did you
become a Christian?
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Were you brought
up in the church?
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I was brought up in the church
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but I left as soon as I had
the ability to choose not to go.
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Why did you leave the church?
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Well, I didn't see a purpose
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and I have never
really heard the gospel.
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And what turned you
around as a young ex-Christian?
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What turned me around
was that I got married,
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had children and now I was,
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in my heart there was
a burden for my children.
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So, I needed to
come closer to the Lord,
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and I didn't know how to.
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And so you went along
to a series of meetings?
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My mother invited me
to the Shrine Auditorium,
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in which you were holding
a campaign there in 1990...
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And then tell us, Alan,
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do you know
anything about the Shrine?
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Uh, I know that
it was in downtown,
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LA and that it used to...
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Big theater downtown LA.
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Exactly, yes,
and that used to host
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the Academy awards I believe.
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Yes, you're right.
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And it was a pretty famous venue
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for a long, long time in LA.
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And do you know about the seats?
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I believe it's
somewhere around...
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I think it was over 6,000.
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Exactly, yeah. 6,600.
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Yeah, it's a big
venue and it's famous.
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When you say the
Shrine Auditorium,
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every one knew what
you are talking about.
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And by the grace of God,
it was packed four times over.
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That was that
impressed me the most,
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which is to see the people.
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So it was a great
evangelistic series
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that most people
said it wouldn't work.
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They said nobody would
go to the Shrine Auditorium
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to hear the
preaching of the gospel
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at downtown Los Angeles.
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People just don't
do that in Los Angeles.
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But we saw it was
packed four times over.
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And when you came
into the meetings,
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an evangelistic
series of meetings,
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such as we've had in
Russia, Ukraine, Johannesburg,
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Papua New Guinea,
Solomon Islands, India,
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you came into a meeting that
is similar to what we do today?
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Correct, and...
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So what happened to you, there?
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Well, first of
all, I was intrigued
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by the
information you were sharing,
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the history, archeology,
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I had never heard that and
then tying it in with the Bible.
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It was just, for
me it was eye opening
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and I was able to put
all the pieces together.
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Now, what you know,
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people are going to
hear this stuff though.
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They can hear astronomy
and we specialize in that
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and archeology and prophecy,
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you are going to
hear these things
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but that it just
becomes an exercise of academia
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and intellectual thing.
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What touched your heart?
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When you talked about
Jesus Christ and the gospel
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and the fact that I
didn't have to do anything,
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that He had done
it already for me
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'cause I grew up thinking I
had to be in a certain a way
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before Christ
would even accept me
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and so um, I heard
that Christ accepted me
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no matter what
condition I was in
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and that changed it all for me.
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And then there
was an altar call.
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Alan, have you
seen an altar call
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in some of the big campaigns?
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Yes, I've seen them all in video
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and I was lucky
enough to witness it
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firsthand in El Salvador.
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Tell me about the altar
call in El Salvador, please.
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You can start to feel
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the energy
building in the stadium.
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Uh, as soon as you
start to make that appeal
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you get a sense
in there and being
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and well, I was
actually very thankful
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to be in the
middle of all of that
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and you start to see the
people come down in droves
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from all over the stadium.
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And they're just
moving like water
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straight through to the front.
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And the energy just
builds and the anticipation,
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the people are
rushing to get to the front
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and witnessing that
and feeling that energy,
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is just something that
is almost indescribable.
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It's amazing, isn't it?
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It certainly is.
It is, it really is.
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Is it the work of man?
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No. Definitely not.
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No, it's the work of God. I
can give you testimony today.
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On occasions, when we
have been having an altar call,
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I have felt in a
very definite way
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and presence of the Holy Spirit.
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I'm not just talking talk here.
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I'm talking about a
flooding of warm power.
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I can sense that He is there.
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I can sense the
personal presence
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of the third
person of the Godhead
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and I have felt
that presence in Russia
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and Ukraine and in India.
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Susan, tell us about
the altar call in India?
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Were you there for
that? Oh, yes, indeed.
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Um, that was
amazing because we had uh,
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I think it was
like 35,000 people.
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Hindus and Muslims?
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Hindus and Muslims
and you were preaching
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and like Alan said,
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there comes like a stillness
and silence over the crowd.
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Even though it is
filled with children
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and little kids running
and there was no running.
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They were all listening. Yes.
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So you know, that's the
power of the Holy Spirit.
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And then all of a sudden it
was like a wave of murmuring
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that came from the crowd.
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And you could hear
it build from the back
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towards the
front of the stadium.
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And it was, it was sort
of chilling to witness that
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and to see all of these
people sort of mesmerized
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by what they were listening
to and to hear the gospel.
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And the Holy
Spirit was drawing them
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with chords of love
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and we saw at
least 10,000 people,
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Hindus and Muslims
move down the front
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in this land of India
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because of the
preaching of what?
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The gospel.
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What is the gospel?
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It's the power of God.
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It's the everlasting message.
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What's the gospel
to you, Alan, tell me?
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It's the love
that God has for us
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and Him explaining to us
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that we don't need
to be anything more
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than just His children to
be accepted and loved by Him.
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And Christ died for us.
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We preach Christ crucified.
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We do not set
just, we don't preach
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just a set of
orthodox doctrines.
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We believe in doctrine
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because doctrine
simply means teaching
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but we believe in the
preaching of the Cross of Christ
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and we believe
that the preaching
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of the blood of
Christ is the power of God
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for the
salvation of men and women.
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That's why it's
called the good news
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'cause it's really
Good news, isn't it?
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It's the good news
of God. That's right.
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And we're going to be
back after this brief message.
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I'm talking to Susan
Piraino and Alan De Leon
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and we're talking
about the power of God
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around the world to save lives.
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You're tuned to
the Carter Report.
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Stay with us.
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God has His time and
His place for everything.
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And the time and the place now
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is Latin
America, including Cuba.
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Time Magazine talks about
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the Second
Protestant Reformation
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and describes how
hundreds of thousands,
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even millions of Latinos
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are coming to
the gospel of Christ.
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I'm not an armchair theologian.
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I'm speaking
according to experience.
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I've seen it with my own eyes.
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Recently, we went
down to El Salvador.
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There I spoke in the
largest football stadium
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in Central America
with the biggest crowd
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that that football
stadium had ever, ever seen.
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They came not to
see a football match,
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but to hear about
the blood of Christ.
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Millions are coming
to a knowledge of God
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in Latin America.
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Doors are opening in Cuba.
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Who knows, we may
be going to Cuba soon.
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As the doors open
by the grace of God,
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we are going to
step through those doors.
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And we want you to step
through those doors with us
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and be part of our team
for such a time as this.
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Please write to me, friend.
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Don't put it off.
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Write to me, John
Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
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Thousand Oaks,
California, 91358.
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In Australia, write to me
at Terrigal, New South Wales.
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Be part of the
Second Reformation,
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join us and see
the miracles of God.
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Amen.
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Welcome back to
the Carter Report.
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Today we're talking about
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the power of the blood of Jesus.
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We're talking about the power
of the preaching of the gospel
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and how we have
seen millions of people
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come to a knowledge of God
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when the gospel is preached
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with the power
of the Holy Spirit.
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We have with us Susan
Piraino, Alan De Leon.
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Alan, tell me did we have
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a security
problem in the meetings?
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Were we afraid of
being shot down by gangs?
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No, not at all.
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I was-- I felt very welcomed
there during the meetings,
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all the people
were just very friendly.
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They wanted to come up
to us and ask us questions,
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personal
questions in regards to us,
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how we were working
for the Carter Report
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but there was never a moment
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where I felt
like I was in danger
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or any of the
members for that matter.
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The safest place to be
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is in the place
where God wants you to be.
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Because the will of
God will never take you
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where the grace of
God cannot keep you.
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That's correct.
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And if you are
in the right place,
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you don't have to be
worried about getting shot.
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Right.
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I've walked out hundred of times
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in pitch darkness
with spotlights on me.
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I mean, that makes
you a target, doesn't it?
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Sometimes with a white suit on
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and you walk out
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and you are in a
dangerous country
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like Papua New
Guinea, and they say that,
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Port Moresby, I maybe
somebody would correct me
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but I read recently that,
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that is the most
dangerous city in the world.
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I saw that.
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And you can walk out on a
stage in the most dangerous city
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in the world and you are safe.
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Susan, back to El Salvador,
do you know how many buses?
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Yes, there were 700
buses that were hired.
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I think we started of saying
they were going to hire 500
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and then it grew to 600.
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Guess who was
paying for these buses?
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We were.
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So they, because
they brought people
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from all over the country.
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Yes, all over.
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It wasn't just a
thing in the capital city.
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These buses came
from all over the country.
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So they were
bringing people from every
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north, south, east and west.
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So there were 700 buses.
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I'm told 700 plus
because as the need arose,
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they just went out
and hired more buses.
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I've never seen
700 buses before.
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Right. I had neither.
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That's a huge number of buses.
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They told me,
pardon my saying this,
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they told me, well,
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those Latinos down there
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won't pay and organize anything.
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Oh, yeah, it'll be a mess.
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And they said it
is going to be a mess,
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you just got to recognize that.
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But we saw such
great organization
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by this whole team of people
working, working really hard
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and they put together
wouldn't you say, uh...
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Every one
involved in the program
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had their own specific rule
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and everybody participated
with full responsibility
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and we were able to
have a very smooth program
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because of all
that organization.
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I've never seen
such good organization.
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I hadn't either.
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I haven't seen it in
America, in the church,
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I haven't seen it in Australia.
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I didn't know there
were 700 buses in El Salvador
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I didn't know
there were 700 buses.
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Okay, 700 buses,
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can you tell me about
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where the people were
seated from those buses?
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I think it was 750
or something buses,
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but we'll say 700.
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Where were the people allocated?
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Do you know about this?
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I do know that all the
people had specific sections
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and that it was
divided by their region
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and their
particular home church.
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Can you believe this? Yeah.
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It was amazing
and I believe that
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each particular church had
their own set of pathfinders
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that would lead them to
their particular section
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in the stadium to sit.
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They had flags to point
people on the right direction.
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And specific pathfinders
are wearing specific colors
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in coordination with
what church they were with.
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So, that type of organization
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was really,
really impressive to see.
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I saw some people are
holding up signs, 553, 649.
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They were some of the
regions I think they got,
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they got divided into regions
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and what they
did was the regions
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that were further away,
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were the ones that they
put closest to the exits.
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So when we finished,
they'd be the first ones out,
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first ones on the
bus to start their truck.
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Sometimes three to four hours
back to where they came from.
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And remember,
the skeptics, skeptic
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who said to our
friends down there,
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the organizers of
this great campaign
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for the Carter
Report, they said,
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"I'd be surprised if you
got a hundred people in there."
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Right.
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"You're not going to
have any people come.
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You folks, you're just
not going to have a crowd."
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I'm told we had
the biggest crowd
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in the history of the stadium.
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The stadium was
over flowing with people.
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And then when they had a
football match after we left,
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did you know what happened then?
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Yeah, I understood that
00:21:18.07\00:21:19.71
there was a football
match schedule for that Sunday
00:21:19.74\00:21:22.94
and the crowd was not
even half for the big,
00:21:22.98\00:21:27.28
and it was an
international game.
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Let's, uh, some folks
told me it was around 10,000
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for the glory of God.
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Amen.
00:21:37.89\00:21:39.23
What brought the
people, do you think?
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That was the
power of the Holy Spirit
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bringing the
people influencing them
00:21:42.23\00:21:44.40
through the
preaching of the local pastors
00:21:44.43\00:21:46.80
and just the buzz that was
created by this large venue
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and the organization of it all
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just played a huge part in that.
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Now, Susan, you are
00:21:54.84\00:21:56.34
the product of
public evangelism.
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You came to Christ
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in the Shrine Auditorium
downtown, Los Angeles.
00:22:00.02\00:22:03.95
We know, looking
back to the people,
00:22:03.99\00:22:06.15
back there said it won't happen.
00:22:06.19\00:22:08.86
If they, they are
not going to come,
00:22:08.89\00:22:10.73
when they came, they said,
00:22:10.76\00:22:12.09
well, they are
not going to stay.
00:22:12.13\00:22:14.00
After they were
baptized, they said,
00:22:14.03\00:22:15.66
well, they're all
going to be apostatized.
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How long ago was that for you?
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That was 1990.
00:22:19.37\00:22:21.77
Goodness, 15, 20
some odd years ago, 25...
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Can I whisper it to you,
00:22:26.74\00:22:28.44
that's a quarter of the
century that you have...
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25 years ago.
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And you're still going.
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I'm still going.
You still believe.
00:22:32.58\00:22:34.05
Still believe and still
want to be a part of the work
00:22:34.08\00:22:37.15
that's making a
difference in the world.
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What do you think about
public evangelism, Alan?
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Now you are a young person.
00:22:41.16\00:22:42.66
You've been with the
ministry for a bit over a year.
00:22:42.69\00:22:45.93
We appreciate you ever so much.
00:22:45.96\00:22:48.56
After going to El Salvador,
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say something that
maybe will touch the hearts
00:22:51.00\00:22:54.14
of the young people
00:22:54.17\00:22:55.50
who are watching
this television program
00:22:55.54\00:22:57.11
because many of
them have been told
00:22:57.14\00:22:59.74
the days of
evangelism have finished.
00:22:59.77\00:23:02.54
It's kaput.
00:23:02.58\00:23:03.95
Well, I think
growing up in the church
00:23:03.98\00:23:05.88
for young people
for the most part,
00:23:05.91\00:23:07.38
they are taken by,
00:23:07.42\00:23:09.45
against their
will by their parents
00:23:09.48\00:23:11.65
and they are
just not necessarily,
00:23:11.69\00:23:13.56
well, they are spoon-fed
tit bits of information
00:23:13.59\00:23:16.73
and going to these
types of evangelical meetings,
00:23:16.76\00:23:20.16
hearing the Bible
tied into history, science,
00:23:20.20\00:23:24.07
it all, it
gives our young people
00:23:24.10\00:23:26.53
tools to defend themselves
when they do go to university
00:23:26.57\00:23:29.70
or out in the secular world
00:23:29.74\00:23:31.47
to be able to
prove with actual facts,
00:23:31.51\00:23:35.34
facts that a lot of
people try to use against them,
00:23:35.38\00:23:38.41
that the Bible
is very much real.
00:23:38.45\00:23:40.08
It's very much
powerful and it's more relevant
00:23:40.12\00:23:42.52
now I believe than
ever for young people.
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Would you agree
with this statement
00:23:44.89\00:23:46.45
that we have faith in
the Bible as the word of God
00:23:46.49\00:23:51.39
because we believe that
it is based upon evidence?
00:23:51.43\00:23:54.13
Exactly, yes.
00:23:54.16\00:23:55.50
We don't believe
in faith in faith.
00:23:55.53\00:23:57.83
Do you understand
what I'm saying, Susan?
00:23:57.87\00:23:59.50
We don't believe
in faith in faith.
00:23:59.53\00:24:02.14
We believe in the evidence
and Jesus spoke about this.
00:24:02.17\00:24:06.44
Jesus said, "You
will know the truth
00:24:06.47\00:24:09.24
and the truth
will make you free."
00:24:09.28\00:24:11.28
Jesus said
00:24:11.31\00:24:12.75
I'm not asking you to just
to believe in a foolish way.
00:24:12.78\00:24:16.72
But I'm going to
give you evidence
00:24:16.75\00:24:18.42
and you can build your
faith upon the evidence.
00:24:18.45\00:24:21.56
We believe in the
resurrection of Jesus Christ,
00:24:21.59\00:24:24.19
not because we
feel like believing,
00:24:24.23\00:24:26.39
well, because
we want to believe.
00:24:26.43\00:24:28.13
We believe because of
the overwhelming evidence.
00:24:28.16\00:24:33.60
Alan, do you want to go again?
00:24:33.64\00:24:36.50
Oh, I'd love to go
at the drop of a hat.
00:24:36.54\00:24:38.77
I feel like it would just
be a tremendous experience
00:24:38.81\00:24:41.21
to be able to go out
there and participate
00:24:41.24\00:24:43.91
and use your hands to just
work and witness to the people,
00:24:43.95\00:24:48.78
to affect them in a way
that will last for eternity
00:24:48.82\00:24:51.89
and to be able to
witness to someone
00:24:51.92\00:24:54.56
and to see them come to Jesus
in such a powerful, real way,
00:24:54.59\00:25:00.00
I believe it's one
of the biggest blessings
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that you can have.
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Susan, cast your mind back.
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It was only a few
months ago, but visualize,
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tell the audience
about the people who came.
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What was the audience like?
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Well, I think we
covered the whole spectrum,
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from the vendor in the street
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to the Vice
President of the nation.
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I mean, she actually attended.
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We saw her there several nights
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and she came to thank you
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I believe for
coming to her country
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and for the message
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that you were
bringing to the people
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and then I met a young
girl by the name of Carla,
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do you remember Carla,
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she was the
physician, she was a doctor?
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Tell us about
Carla, the physician.
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Carla had started
attending some of the meetings
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and it was her first time
to hear the gospel as well.
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And so she was excited and then
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when she saw
that the culmination
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was in the stadium and she came
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and she saw the impact
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that this message
was having in the nation,
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she said, this
was the best thing
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that she's ever heard
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and she gave her life to Christ.
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Carla told me, I met Carla too.
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She came to the hotel. Yes.
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And Carla told
me she was attending
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one of the preliminary
meetings in San Salvador.
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Correct.
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We sponsored as you
know about 90 campaigns
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before big campaigns.
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That's right.
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So there were 90
smaller campaigns
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running right across the nation
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and she came along,
well, she didn't come along,
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she was walking down the street
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and she went
past one of the places
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where the meetings...
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Were taking place.
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Yeah, and she heard some music.
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That's right.
00:26:39.86\00:26:41.20
And she'd just gone
through a dreadful divorce
00:26:41.23\00:26:42.86
and she was hurting.
00:26:42.90\00:26:44.23
She was very sad and depressed,
00:26:44.27\00:26:47.04
she told me and she heard
this uplifting music coming.
00:26:47.07\00:26:49.74
So she decided to walk in
and see what was going on.
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And it was one of the
meetings, preliminary meetings
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and they were
preaching about the gospel
00:26:55.78\00:26:58.58
and she heard Jesus mentioned
and so she was drawn in.
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She said, "I was
literally drawn in to listen."
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Doesn't this tell us
that there is a God in heaven?
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Of course it does. Absolutely.
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Doesn't it tell us,
in this age of unbelief,
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there is a God in heaven
who still cares for people?
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Yes.
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And He saw Carla
just as He sees you today.
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And the Good news of the
Bible is that God loves you
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and Christ died for
you and He has a plan
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and a purpose
for you, my friend.
00:27:31.91\00:27:34.02
I want you to know today
that God is interested in you
00:27:34.05\00:27:37.59
and that God loves you and
He wants you to come to Him
00:27:37.62\00:27:42.32
and He wants to come
into your heart today.
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Please write to me today.
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John Carter,
Post Office Box 1900,
00:27:46.90\00:27:49.53
Thousand Oaks, California,
00:27:49.56\00:27:51.13
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Australia at Terrigal.
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00:28:09.58\00:28:12.85
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Dear friend, believe in
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