From Arcadia, California, the Carter Report presents 00:00:07.46\00:00:10.47 "The Living Word" around the world. 00:00:10.50\00:00:12.76 Hello, I'm Dave Deno. 00:00:17.13\00:00:18.24 And this is the Carter Report 00:00:18.27\00:00:20.39 with pastor and evangelist, John Carter. 00:00:20.42\00:00:23.42 This is where we talk about the issues of life and faith. 00:00:23.45\00:00:28.63 Today, our topic is one 00:00:28.66\00:00:30.93 that is right out of the headlines of the news. 00:00:30.96\00:00:33.67 We're gonna be talking about "ISIS and the Rapture," 00:00:33.70\00:00:37.42 how do they go together, we'll tell you in a moment. 00:00:37.45\00:00:40.32 I wish you would come with me 00:00:43.32\00:00:46.11 to a land of more than a billion souls 00:00:46.14\00:00:51.02 all in need of hearing the Gospel of Christ. 00:00:51.05\00:00:53.63 Did you know this, my friend? 00:00:53.66\00:00:56.59 It is the duty of the Christian 00:00:56.62\00:00:59.34 to take the Gospel of Christ to a lost world. 00:00:59.37\00:01:03.75 And the lost world I'm talking about 00:01:03.78\00:01:05.10 right now is India, 00:01:05.13\00:01:07.78 land of millions and millions of pagan gods 00:01:07.81\00:01:12.80 but more than a billion lost souls. 00:01:12.83\00:01:18.30 India cries out for God. 00:01:18.33\00:01:20.98 We are now back on India TV. 00:01:21.01\00:01:24.26 We're broadcasting on prime time in India. 00:01:24.29\00:01:27.42 We need your prayers, we need your support. 00:01:27.45\00:01:30.90 Is it easy in India? 00:01:30.93\00:01:32.74 No, it's the hardest place we've ever worked. 00:01:32.77\00:01:36.28 Harder than Russia? Harder than Russia. 00:01:36.31\00:01:38.65 Harder than America? Harder than America. 00:01:38.68\00:01:41.22 Harder than Australia? Harder than Australia. 00:01:41.25\00:01:44.45 Because it is a land that's given over almost 00:01:44.48\00:01:47.17 totally to demonism. 00:01:47.20\00:01:50.30 Now I could tell you about those demons, 00:01:50.33\00:01:52.26 I could tell you about the false gods 00:01:52.29\00:01:54.14 but what I want to tell you today 00:01:54.17\00:01:55.59 is about the true God 00:01:55.62\00:01:56.88 and the true God who told us 00:01:56.91\00:01:58.43 go into all the world 00:01:58.46\00:02:00.06 and preach the gospel to every creature. 00:02:00.09\00:02:02.46 We're back in India, yes, we're back in India. 00:02:02.49\00:02:06.27 And by the grace of God, we're back in India to stay. 00:02:06.30\00:02:09.80 We want you to come with us. 00:02:09.83\00:02:11.29 We want you to pray for India. 00:02:11.32\00:02:13.18 We want you to give for India and do it today. 00:02:13.21\00:02:16.92 Please write to me, John Carter, 00:02:16.95\00:02:18.93 Post Office Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California. 00:02:18.96\00:02:22.22 Write to me at Terrigal in Australia. 00:02:22.25\00:02:24.51 Email me, contact me 00:02:24.54\00:02:26.29 and say, "Yes, I'm going to stand with you 00:02:26.32\00:02:29.33 in the preaching of the gospel to the lost souls of India." 00:02:29.36\00:02:33.20 Thank you in Jesus' name and God bless you. 00:02:33.23\00:02:35.84 Welcome to the Carter Report. 00:02:44.00\00:02:46.06 Today, as I said earlier, 00:02:46.09\00:02:47.64 we're going to be talking about ISIS, 00:02:47.67\00:02:49.72 I-S-I-S and the Rapture. 00:02:49.75\00:02:52.94 And we're gonna find out how these two subjects 00:02:52.97\00:02:56.22 go together. 00:02:56.25\00:02:58.02 I've written a few things for myself 00:02:58.05\00:02:59.62 because I want you to know that 00:02:59.65\00:03:00.85 we're discussing events and beliefs 00:03:00.88\00:03:03.32 that are shaping the lives and the destinies 00:03:03.35\00:03:05.96 of millions of people. 00:03:05.99\00:03:08.59 ISIS and the other militants are spreading terror 00:03:08.62\00:03:12.31 all around the world. 00:03:12.34\00:03:14.12 Truly we do live in perilous times, 00:03:14.15\00:03:17.50 as the Bible describes them. 00:03:17.53\00:03:20.62 The question may be, "Will the church be raptured, 00:03:20.65\00:03:24.00 be raptured home to glory before great tribulation?" 00:03:24.03\00:03:28.68 John, this is a subject that is on everyone's mind. 00:03:28.71\00:03:33.08 We see it in the headlines of our newspaper, 00:03:33.11\00:03:35.41 we see it on the evening news. 00:03:35.44\00:03:38.64 There are some unfortunate events, 00:03:38.67\00:03:41.12 terrible events 00:03:41.15\00:03:42.74 that are being played out before us right now 00:03:42.77\00:03:45.55 in the Middle East. 00:03:45.58\00:03:47.12 Let's get right into it, I-S-I-S, ISIS, who are they? 00:03:47.15\00:03:51.79 These are Muslim fanatics. 00:03:51.82\00:03:55.79 They believe with all their hearts 00:03:55.82\00:03:57.43 that they are the only true faith. 00:03:57.46\00:03:59.71 They have a, you could call it, 00:03:59.74\00:04:01.62 Dave, a Messianic Seal for God. 00:04:01.65\00:04:04.78 They believe it is the will of Allah for them 00:04:04.81\00:04:07.35 to takeover not only the Middle East, 00:04:07.38\00:04:09.54 but to takeover the whole wide world, 00:04:09.57\00:04:12.20 including the United States of America. 00:04:12.23\00:04:15.47 They say, they will not be satisfied 00:04:15.50\00:04:20.14 until their flag flies over the White House. 00:04:20.17\00:04:24.45 Why are they so anti-Christian? 00:04:24.48\00:04:28.68 They are anti-Christian because they believe-- 00:04:28.71\00:04:32.01 now of course, they're not mainstream Muslims, Dave. 00:04:32.04\00:04:36.38 But they believe that we are infidels, 00:04:36.41\00:04:39.89 heretics and enemies of God. 00:04:39.92\00:04:42.83 They believe that when we invaded 00:04:42.86\00:04:44.83 Iraq and Afghanistan 00:04:44.86\00:04:47.71 and when we've gone into other countries 00:04:47.74\00:04:49.82 where there are Muslims, 00:04:49.85\00:04:51.48 that we have desecrated sacred soil. 00:04:51.51\00:04:54.76 And so they are on a holy crusade 00:04:54.79\00:04:58.89 to bring about the Muslim faith 00:04:58.92\00:05:00.50 right around the world. 00:05:00.53\00:05:01.76 But, John, you talk about them 00:05:01.79\00:05:03.18 having this zeal for their faith, 00:05:03.21\00:05:06.85 don't we as Christians 00:05:06.88\00:05:08.52 have an equal zeal for our faith? 00:05:08.55\00:05:11.39 We would--we would hope that we have a zeal for our faith 00:05:11.42\00:05:15.08 but a zeal that is motivated by the love of God. 00:05:15.11\00:05:20.22 Jesus said, "You shall love the Lord 00:05:20.25\00:05:21.75 your God with all your heart and all your soul 00:05:21.78\00:05:23.90 and your neighbor as yourself." 00:05:23.93\00:05:26.50 You don't go ahead and behead your neighbor. 00:05:26.53\00:05:29.11 You don't rape the people. 00:05:29.14\00:05:30.96 You don't do these unspeakable abominations and atrocities. 00:05:30.99\00:05:36.37 So many times though, these acts are excused by them 00:05:36.40\00:05:42.03 saying, well, we are the enemy, we are the great Satan. 00:05:42.06\00:05:47.64 They look upon us-- the fanatics, too, 00:05:47.67\00:05:51.54 as the enemy and the great Satan. 00:05:51.57\00:05:55.10 But there's no doubt about it, Dave, 00:05:55.13\00:05:57.30 they are on a crusade to spread their religion 00:05:57.33\00:06:01.21 around the world. 00:06:01.24\00:06:02.66 And they're going to spread it with a sword, with a gun, 00:06:02.69\00:06:06.11 with a bomb, with a terrorist, whatever it takes. 00:06:06.14\00:06:09.52 Let's talk about the attitude. 00:06:09.55\00:06:10.71 I want to stay on this for just a moment longer. 00:06:10.74\00:06:13.29 Because as Christians, we are taught 00:06:13.32\00:06:16.89 that you are either for Christ or you are against Christ. 00:06:16.92\00:06:19.40 Yes. 00:06:19.43\00:06:20.47 You are either in His camp, you are either a believer 00:06:20.50\00:06:24.20 or you are a tool of the enemy. 00:06:24.23\00:06:27.44 What is so different in that belief 00:06:27.47\00:06:30.72 on the part of Christians 00:06:30.75\00:06:32.15 than what we hear from radical Muslims? 00:06:32.18\00:06:35.56 There are radical Christians 00:06:35.59\00:06:38.62 and they have been always radical Christians. 00:06:38.65\00:06:41.69 Christians in the dark ages went on the crusades 00:06:41.72\00:06:44.99 against the Muslims to take the city of Jerusalem 00:06:45.02\00:06:49.19 and they killed, and they plundered 00:06:49.22\00:06:51.30 and they did all these, these dreadful things. 00:06:51.33\00:06:54.37 And so, Dave, in history, 00:06:54.40\00:06:57.42 there have been radical Christians. 00:06:57.45\00:07:00.41 Undoubtedly in some places today, 00:07:00.44\00:07:02.95 there are radical Christians who would do the same 00:07:02.98\00:07:06.65 if they had the opportunity and the power. 00:07:06.68\00:07:10.54 Wow. 00:07:10.57\00:07:12.07 But this--this is not the teaching of the Bible. 00:07:12.10\00:07:15.18 It is not the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. 00:07:15.21\00:07:18.24 What Jesus taught us, to love our enemies 00:07:18.27\00:07:21.31 and to do good to those who hurt us 00:07:21.34\00:07:23.58 and those who despise us. 00:07:23.61\00:07:26.10 The teachings of Jesus Christ will make a person kind 00:07:26.13\00:07:29.82 and gracious and forgiving. 00:07:29.85\00:07:32.80 Christ gives us freedom. 00:07:32.83\00:07:35.56 Yes. 00:07:35.59\00:07:37.33 Let's talk about that for just a moment. 00:07:37.36\00:07:39.72 True belief this whole area of religious freedom 00:07:39.75\00:07:45.57 because the radical Muslims are saying, no. 00:07:45.60\00:07:49.67 You need to believe as we do and that is it. 00:07:49.70\00:07:52.41 No religious liberty at all. 00:07:52.44\00:07:54.63 What is religious liberty? How do you define that? 00:07:54.66\00:07:56.86 I believe, Dave, that God made us in His own image 00:07:56.89\00:08:00.50 and God made us to be free. 00:08:00.53\00:08:02.73 God made us to have a clear conscience. 00:08:02.76\00:08:05.53 God made us to either serve Him or not to serve Him. 00:08:05.56\00:08:08.87 But God gave us the awesome ability of choice to say 00:08:08.90\00:08:14.50 I will choose God or else I will not choose God. 00:08:14.53\00:08:17.94 And so God has put in the soul of man 00:08:17.97\00:08:20.47 this amazing ability to choose 00:08:20.50\00:08:24.53 and so God has given us freedom. 00:08:24.56\00:08:26.31 And of course, this freedom can be perverted. 00:08:26.34\00:08:30.79 And people are perverting this freedom 00:08:30.82\00:08:32.54 all the time around the world. 00:08:32.57\00:08:34.01 ISIS is perverting the freedom of choice 00:08:34.04\00:08:37.24 that God has given to every person. 00:08:37.27\00:08:39.54 In other words for us, as Christians, 00:08:39.57\00:08:42.84 we can say to people, here's the gospel. 00:08:42.87\00:08:45.32 Yes. Here's the message. 00:08:45.35\00:08:47.99 It is up to you to decide whether you accept it or not. 00:08:48.02\00:08:52.33 The only motivation that a Christian should use 00:08:52.36\00:08:55.98 is the motivation of persuasion in the love of God. 00:08:56.01\00:09:01.31 We have the right to express our opinions 00:09:01.34\00:09:04.73 and to argue and to debate 00:09:04.76\00:09:07.17 which we may even do here on this program today. 00:09:07.20\00:09:10.16 But we don't have the right to force people to see it 00:09:10.19\00:09:13.80 as we see it. 00:09:13.83\00:09:15.02 God says, "Come let us reason together." 00:09:15.05\00:09:16.47 Yes, He does. 00:09:16.50\00:09:17.61 Book of Isaiah Chapter 1. Yeah, right. 00:09:17.64\00:09:20.58 You have been to the Middle East several times-- 00:09:20.61\00:09:23.38 Heaps of times. 00:09:23.41\00:09:24.50 It is a mystery to many of us. 00:09:24.53\00:09:27.08 Yes. We don't understand the people. 00:09:27.11\00:09:28.74 We don't understand the culture at all. 00:09:28.77\00:09:32.69 Give me if you would, I'm gonna just take you through 00:09:32.72\00:09:35.36 some of the countries of the Middle East. 00:09:35.39\00:09:37.44 Give me if you would maybe in a sentence or so 00:09:37.47\00:09:39.74 a snapshot of these countries, Egypt. 00:09:39.77\00:09:43.94 I've been to Egypt many, many times. 00:09:43.97\00:09:45.97 I think I've got the-- 00:09:46.00\00:09:47.80 a bit of the Nile River in my blood. 00:09:47.83\00:09:50.45 I love Egypt. 00:09:50.48\00:09:52.35 Some would call it the birthplace of civilization, 00:09:52.38\00:09:56.03 the home of the Pharaohs. 00:09:56.06\00:09:58.24 I love the land of Egypt, but today, of course, 00:09:58.27\00:10:01.05 it is ruled largely by a totalitarian system. 00:10:01.08\00:10:05.65 The Egyptians themselves are warm, wonderful people. 00:10:05.68\00:10:09.63 But the present government has thrown out 00:10:09.66\00:10:11.76 the Muslim brotherhood 00:10:11.79\00:10:13.37 whom they saw as a threat to their security. 00:10:13.40\00:10:16.92 And so Egypt today now has a military government, 00:10:16.95\00:10:19.49 virtually. 00:10:19.52\00:10:20.55 What about Syria? 00:10:20.58\00:10:21.61 It's in the news here and there. 00:10:21.64\00:10:23.86 For many, many years 00:10:23.89\00:10:25.16 it has been a place of suffering 00:10:25.19\00:10:27.25 for the people of God. 00:10:27.28\00:10:29.19 I remember, Dave, driving through the City of Homs 00:10:29.22\00:10:32.80 and my guide saying to me, 00:10:32.83\00:10:34.91 thousands and thousands of people 00:10:34.94\00:10:37.57 have been put to death in this city. 00:10:37.60\00:10:40.86 But today, it is in a terrible state of chaos. 00:10:40.89\00:10:45.41 You have the government and it is besieged, 00:10:45.44\00:10:49.30 they're fighting terrorists 00:10:49.33\00:10:50.87 and people say the government is a terrorist state anyhow. 00:10:50.90\00:10:54.04 And so it's very, very difficult. 00:10:54.07\00:10:55.74 And Christians in all of these countries, 00:10:55.77\00:10:58.62 I just praying to God that 00:10:58.65\00:10:59.99 He'll give them a time of security 00:11:00.02\00:11:02.32 and a time of peace. 00:11:02.35\00:11:03.99 Let's talk about the other country 00:11:04.02\00:11:06.28 that is always in the news from the Middle East 00:11:06.31\00:11:08.56 and that is, Israel. 00:11:08.59\00:11:10.64 Israel, of course is quite different in many ways. 00:11:10.67\00:11:14.27 It is a free democracy 00:11:14.30\00:11:16.69 and a great ally of the United States. 00:11:16.72\00:11:18.67 Israel is a Jewish state that means that it is a state 00:11:18.70\00:11:23.74 for the Jewish people, it is their homeland. 00:11:23.77\00:11:27.57 And I certainly love the land of Israel. 00:11:27.60\00:11:31.76 But you have a very interesting view 00:11:31.79\00:11:36.22 of Israel's place in God's plan. 00:11:36.25\00:11:40.27 That's a little bit different 00:11:40.30\00:11:41.62 than we perhaps hear from many others in the ministry, 00:11:41.65\00:11:45.92 tell me about that. 00:11:45.95\00:11:48.31 That is an understatement, is it not, Dave? 00:11:48.34\00:11:52.74 Let me say this... I love Israel. 00:11:52.77\00:11:57.60 I love the Jewish people. 00:11:57.63\00:11:59.80 Goodness, I've got two doctors. They're both Jewish. 00:11:59.83\00:12:04.20 Some of my best friends are Jewish. 00:12:04.23\00:12:06.82 I have a Jewish attorney, would you ever have any other 00:12:06.85\00:12:10.14 if you could so choose, the best attorneys. 00:12:10.17\00:12:13.14 And so some Jewish people-- some of these people, 00:12:13.17\00:12:16.53 Jewish people, are very close to my heart. 00:12:16.56\00:12:19.71 I believe this that Israel 00:12:19.74\00:12:23.42 the same as the United States of America, 00:12:23.45\00:12:26.06 and Australia, and England, and France, and Germany, 00:12:26.09\00:12:30.37 Israel has the sacred right to exist. 00:12:30.40\00:12:35.61 She has the right to determine the national identity. 00:12:35.64\00:12:39.75 But that's a different thing to saying that Israel 00:12:39.78\00:12:42.70 is the focus of Bible prophecy 00:12:42.73\00:12:45.42 and that the land of Israel is the holy land 00:12:45.45\00:12:50.10 as far as God is concerned. 00:12:50.13\00:12:52.76 Can I read you a text? I'd love to hear it. 00:12:52.79\00:12:54.96 Now this, this is a big subject, Dave. 00:12:54.99\00:12:59.52 But I think it's worth looking at today. 00:12:59.55\00:13:02.52 I think you're gonna get a few letters on this. 00:13:02.55\00:13:04.42 Oh, I'm sure I will but-- 00:13:04.45\00:13:05.69 and I welcome all of the letters, 00:13:05.72\00:13:09.13 because it's not what I think, it's what the Bible says. 00:13:09.16\00:13:13.47 This is a parable. 00:13:13.50\00:13:14.90 "Listen to another parable, there was a landowner 00:13:14.93\00:13:17.36 who planted a vineyard," that's what the land of Israel. 00:13:17.39\00:13:20.93 "He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it 00:13:20.96\00:13:24.47 and built a watchtower," that was the city of Jerusalem. 00:13:24.50\00:13:28.14 "Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers, 00:13:28.17\00:13:30.75 went away on a journey, " that is to the Jewish people. 00:13:30.78\00:13:34.71 "When the harvest time approached, 00:13:34.74\00:13:36.36 he sent his servants to the tenants 00:13:36.39\00:13:38.60 to collect his fruit. 00:13:38.63\00:13:40.41 The tenants seized his servants, they beat one, 00:13:40.44\00:13:43.29 killed another, and stoned a third." 00:13:43.32\00:13:45.53 This is the persecution of the great prophets 00:13:45.56\00:13:48.17 of the Old Testament, as you and I know. 00:13:48.20\00:13:50.42 "Then he sent other servants to them, 00:13:50.45\00:13:52.38 more than the first time, 00:13:52.41\00:13:54.15 and the tenants treated them the same way. 00:13:54.18\00:13:57.55 Last of all, he sent his son to them. 00:13:57.58\00:13:59.82 'They will respect my son,' he said." Who was that, 00:13:59.85\00:14:03.27 who was that, Dave? 00:14:03.30\00:14:04.33 That would be Jesus. That's, that's Jesus. 00:14:04.36\00:14:05.92 Yeah, that's Jesus. 00:14:05.95\00:14:07.78 Before we, we take our break, 00:14:07.81\00:14:09.87 I want people to know about a brand new magazine 00:14:09.90\00:14:12.20 that we have, it's called Ebenezer. 00:14:12.23\00:14:14.52 And this magazine is available absolutely free 00:14:14.55\00:14:17.62 and some of the subjects that we're talking about today 00:14:17.65\00:14:20.40 are in this magazine. 00:14:20.43\00:14:22.77 It is yours to have free simply by going to our website 00:14:22.80\00:14:27.62 www.cartereport.org, 00:14:27.65\00:14:32.80 take a look at this, we'll be back in a moment. 00:14:32.83\00:14:35.08 Did you ever have a sense of destiny? 00:14:38.10\00:14:41.58 Did you ever feel that God has put His hand upon you 00:14:41.61\00:14:44.29 for some tremendous task that you really got a purpose, 00:14:44.32\00:14:48.83 that God has called you for such a time as this? 00:14:48.86\00:14:52.77 I have that sense, that conviction today 00:14:52.80\00:14:56.29 because God is opening up doors for us in Latin America. 00:14:56.32\00:15:01.69 And in Latin America, my good friend, 00:15:01.72\00:15:04.48 There's a revolution going on. 00:15:04.51\00:15:07.21 It's not a revolution in the streets. 00:15:07.24\00:15:09.58 It is a revolution in the hearts 00:15:09.61\00:15:12.92 of men and women. 00:15:12.95\00:15:15.95 That's why, the Carter Report is going to go to El Salvador. 00:15:15.98\00:15:20.94 We are renting an outdoor stadium 00:15:20.97\00:15:23.18 with room for more than 60,000 souls. 00:15:23.21\00:15:28.31 And we're planning a baptism in the-- 00:15:28.34\00:15:30.32 on the Sabbath afternoon 00:15:30.35\00:15:31.80 of more than 5,000 born again souls 00:15:31.83\00:15:36.89 in El Salvador, in Latin America 00:15:36.92\00:15:41.39 where there's a revolution going on, 00:15:41.42\00:15:43.24 where the Holy Spirit is being poured out. 00:15:43.27\00:15:45.92 Don't you want to be a part of this great purpose, 00:15:45.95\00:15:51.75 this great task, this God-designed outreach, 00:15:51.78\00:15:57.15 the Latin America. 00:15:57.18\00:15:59.40 Would you please write to me, John Carter, 00:15:59.43\00:16:01.14 Post Office Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California. 00:16:01.17\00:16:04.44 Tell me, I'm going to support you. 00:16:04.47\00:16:06.88 Write to me in Australia, tell me, 00:16:06.91\00:16:08.86 I'm going to support the preaching of the gospel. 00:16:08.89\00:16:12.14 Write to me today and support 00:16:12.17\00:16:14.58 the preaching of the Word of God 00:16:14.61\00:16:16.97 around the world 00:16:17.00\00:16:18.60 but right now, in Latin America. 00:16:18.63\00:16:22.22 Thank you and God bless you. 00:16:22.25\00:16:23.89 Welcome back to the Carter Report 00:16:38.92\00:16:40.79 with pastor and evangelist John Carter, I'm Dave Deno. 00:16:40.82\00:16:43.59 And today, we're talking about two subjects 00:16:43.62\00:16:46.49 that may not necessarily seem to be related. 00:16:46.52\00:16:49.73 But in a moment, you will see the connection. 00:16:49.76\00:16:52.61 ISIS, I-S-I-S, 00:16:52.64\00:16:54.91 the militant group in the Middle East 00:16:54.94\00:16:57.28 and the great tribulation, the rapture as well. 00:16:57.31\00:17:02.41 John, before we paused, 00:17:02.44\00:17:05.22 I had asked you to talk about your view of Israel. 00:17:05.25\00:17:08.21 You talked about their right to exist politically, 00:17:08.24\00:17:11.24 but you also said, that you don't necessarily agree 00:17:11.27\00:17:14.48 with what a lot of people say about the Holy Land, 00:17:14.51\00:17:17.74 about it being God's chosen place 00:17:17.77\00:17:20.44 in prophetic history. 00:17:20.47\00:17:21.97 You have read to us a scripture, 00:17:22.00\00:17:23.75 a parable, from the Bible. 00:17:23.78\00:17:25.76 Can you explain that for us? 00:17:25.79\00:17:26.98 Yes, Dave, thank you. 00:17:27.01\00:17:28.49 Let me take this a little bit further. 00:17:28.52\00:17:30.97 We got up to the place where it says, 00:17:31.00\00:17:34.16 He send, God sends His Son. 00:17:34.19\00:17:37.10 "They will respect my son," this is Matthew 21, 00:17:37.13\00:17:40.83 "But when the tenants saw the son, 00:17:40.86\00:17:42.30 they said to each other, 'This is the heir. 00:17:42.33\00:17:45.34 Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance.' 00:17:45.37\00:17:49.70 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard 00:17:49.73\00:17:52.70 and killed him.'" 00:17:52.73\00:17:54.44 This is the cross. 00:17:54.47\00:17:56.03 This is when the Jewish people put our Lord on the cross, 00:17:56.06\00:18:00.08 and of course, our sins putting on the cross 00:18:00.11\00:18:02.02 we know this. 00:18:02.05\00:18:03.19 "Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, 00:18:03.22\00:18:06.29 what will he do to those tenants?" 00:18:06.32\00:18:08.82 Jesus said, 00:18:08.85\00:18:09.89 "'He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,' 00:18:09.92\00:18:13.43 they replied, 00:18:13.46\00:18:14.55 'and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, 00:18:14.58\00:18:17.78 who will give him his share of the crop 00:18:17.81\00:18:20.01 at harvest time.' 00:18:20.04\00:18:21.31 Jesus said to them, 00:18:21.34\00:18:22.57 'Have you never read in the Scriptures, 00:18:22.60\00:18:25.14 The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, 00:18:25.17\00:18:29.75 the Lord has done this, 00:18:29.78\00:18:31.38 and it is marvelous in our eyes?' 00:18:31.41\00:18:33.58 Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God 00:18:33.61\00:18:37.14 will be taken away from you 00:18:37.17\00:18:41.98 and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 00:18:42.01\00:18:47.23 When the chief priests and the Pharisees 00:18:47.26\00:18:49.32 heard Jesus' parables, 00:18:49.35\00:18:50.92 they knew he was talking about them." 00:18:50.95\00:18:53.12 Jesus said, 00:18:53.15\00:18:54.92 that because of the rejection of Christ 00:18:54.95\00:18:58.14 and His crucifixion, 00:18:58.17\00:19:00.89 the kingdom of God would be taken from those people 00:19:00.92\00:19:05.65 and given to a people who will bring forth 00:19:05.68\00:19:08.40 the fruits of salvation. 00:19:08.43\00:19:11.64 Now who are those people? 00:19:11.67\00:19:13.72 That refers to the church. 00:19:13.75\00:19:16.87 It's made up of Russians and Americans 00:19:16.90\00:19:21.09 and Jews and Arabs, 00:19:21.12\00:19:25.81 Germans and Mexicans, 00:19:25.84\00:19:28.24 any person who has true faith in Jesus 00:19:28.27\00:19:32.79 is considered to be, by God, the true Israel of God. 00:19:32.82\00:19:39.14 So the church becomes the Israel of God. 00:19:39.17\00:19:43.37 So this is the most anti-racial idea 00:19:43.40\00:19:50.95 that you could think of. 00:19:50.98\00:19:52.60 That the-- everybody now is a part of the Israel of God. 00:19:52.63\00:19:57.97 We've talked about ISIS, we've talked about 00:19:58.00\00:20:00.30 the perilous times that we live in. 00:20:00.33\00:20:02.06 Yes, yes. 00:20:02.09\00:20:03.18 We've talked a little bit about the Middle East. 00:20:03.21\00:20:06.04 And some of the different countries in the Middle East 00:20:06.07\00:20:09.28 and sort of the role that they are playing 00:20:09.31\00:20:11.90 in modern times 00:20:11.93\00:20:14.11 and even toward prophetic times as we look ahead. 00:20:14.14\00:20:20.21 Let's talk about the great tribulation. 00:20:20.24\00:20:23.85 And let's see how these come together. 00:20:23.88\00:20:28.35 There are a lot of different theories 00:20:28.38\00:20:30.35 about the rapture. 00:20:30.38\00:20:31.83 And its relationship to tribulation, 00:20:31.86\00:20:35.52 how do you see these two coming together? 00:20:35.55\00:20:39.37 Dave, I believe this and people are free of course 00:20:39.40\00:20:44.55 to disagree with me, they do all the time. 00:20:44.58\00:20:47.04 But I want my faith to be built upon 00:20:47.07\00:20:49.36 not the teachings of the church 00:20:49.39\00:20:50.78 but the teachings of the Word of God. 00:20:50.81\00:20:54.01 I believe that the great tribulation, 00:20:54.04\00:20:57.18 the great time of trouble 00:20:57.21\00:20:58.90 comes before the second coming of Christ. 00:20:58.93\00:21:04.93 And for many believers in the world today, 00:21:04.96\00:21:08.37 they are already in the tribulation. 00:21:08.40\00:21:11.88 How much worse can it get 00:21:11.91\00:21:14.02 than it is for Christians believers 00:21:14.05\00:21:17.76 in a place like, like Nineveh. 00:21:17.79\00:21:20.18 There were 60,000 Christians in Nineveh 00:21:20.21\00:21:24.34 and ISIS said, "If you stay, we're going to kill you. 00:21:24.37\00:21:29.87 But you can stay and we won't kill you 00:21:29.90\00:21:32.08 if you convert to Islam. 00:21:32.11\00:21:34.69 But if you want to save your lives you got to go," 00:21:34.72\00:21:36.59 so they left with the clothes that they were wearing. 00:21:36.62\00:21:40.72 That for them is a time of trouble. 00:21:40.75\00:21:43.67 Can I please read a text about this, Dave, 00:21:43.70\00:21:46.45 with your permission? 00:21:46.48\00:21:48.34 Because let me a read a text on the great tribulation. 00:21:48.37\00:21:53.41 It is believed by most Christians, 00:21:53.44\00:21:56.38 I think, in this part of the world 00:21:56.41\00:21:59.36 that the church is going to be raptured onto glory. 00:21:59.39\00:22:03.28 And then the tribulation is going to come 00:22:03.31\00:22:05.86 after the church is raptured home to glory, 00:22:05.89\00:22:09.06 that's very comfortable. 00:22:09.09\00:22:10.79 Yeah, we feel many of us have been taught to feel-- 00:22:10.82\00:22:14.85 we're gonna get out of here before the bad stuff happens. 00:22:14.88\00:22:16.95 What about the believers in Iraq? 00:22:16.98\00:22:19.32 What about the believers in Syria? 00:22:19.35\00:22:21.46 What about the believers in Nineveh? 00:22:21.49\00:22:24.78 They haven't been raptured home to glory. 00:22:24.81\00:22:26.63 They're in the midst of a great tribulation now. 00:22:26.66\00:22:28.76 Now Jesus said, Matthew 24 00:22:28.79\00:22:32.83 verse, let me see, 18, 00:22:32.86\00:22:37.17 "Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 00:22:37.20\00:22:40.83 How dreadful it'll be in those days 00:22:40.86\00:22:43.38 for pregnant women and nursing mothers. 00:22:43.41\00:22:46.34 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter 00:22:46.37\00:22:49.53 or on the Sabbath. 00:22:49.56\00:22:51.41 For then there'll be great distress, 00:22:51.44\00:22:54.98 unequaled from the beginning of the world until now-- 00:22:55.01\00:22:59.24 never to be equaled again. 00:22:59.27\00:23:02.73 If those days had not been cut short, 00:23:02.76\00:23:05.77 no one would survive, 00:23:05.80\00:23:07.99 but for the sake of the elect 00:23:08.02\00:23:11.60 those days will be shortened." 00:23:11.63\00:23:16.07 Therefore the elector on the earth, 00:23:16.10\00:23:20.17 during this great tribulation. 00:23:20.20\00:23:22.44 The Bible says, "If it were not for the sake of the elect, 00:23:22.47\00:23:26.91 nothing would be left on the earth. 00:23:26.94\00:23:28.41 But for the sake of the elect 00:23:28.44\00:23:29.96 those days are going to be shortened. " 00:23:29.99\00:23:32.66 And then it goes on to say this, so I believe 00:23:32.69\00:23:36.12 on the basis of the teachings 00:23:36.15\00:23:38.72 of the greatest Jew of all, Jesus, 00:23:38.75\00:23:42.80 that God's church is going to be right here on the earth 00:23:42.83\00:23:44.92 during the great tribulation. Then Jesus said, 00:23:44.95\00:23:47.92 "Immediately after the distress of those days," 00:23:47.95\00:23:50.54 after the distress of those days, 00:23:50.57\00:23:52.62 "'the sun will be darkened, 00:23:52.65\00:23:53.70 and the moon will not give its light, 00:23:53.73\00:23:56.16 the stars will fall from the sky, 00:23:56.19\00:23:57.22 heavenly bodies will be shaken.' 00:23:57.25\00:23:59.02 At that time the sign of the Son of Man 00:23:59.05\00:24:01.44 will appear in the sky, 00:24:01.47\00:24:02.67 all the nations of the earth will mourn, 00:24:02.70\00:24:04.62 they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky 00:24:04.65\00:24:07.65 with power and great glory. 00:24:07.68\00:24:09.89 And he will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, 00:24:09.92\00:24:12.86 and they will gather His elect from the four winds." 00:24:12.89\00:24:17.21 Now, Dave, I put it to you, 00:24:17.24\00:24:20.50 Jesus said, He is going to come at terrible time of trouble. 00:24:20.53\00:24:24.15 He said, the elect are going to be right there 00:24:24.18\00:24:26.18 in the midst of that time of trouble. 00:24:26.21\00:24:27.44 He said, but, but for the elect, 00:24:27.47\00:24:29.92 he actually talks about the elect. 00:24:29.95\00:24:32.48 The days are going to be shortened 00:24:32.51\00:24:34.00 because of the elect. 00:24:34.03\00:24:35.26 God's children, God's church and then it says, 00:24:35.29\00:24:39.36 after this, you're gonna have these celestial signs. 00:24:39.39\00:24:42.80 And then they're going to see the Son of Man 00:24:42.83\00:24:44.18 coming on the clouds of the sky 00:24:44.21\00:24:45.85 and He's going to send his angels 00:24:45.88\00:24:48.20 and they're going together his elect. 00:24:48.23\00:24:50.06 Therefore, this is gonna get worse, Dave. 00:24:50.09\00:24:54.06 And I tell you what I believe, I don't believe in the rapture. 00:24:54.09\00:24:57.96 I don't believe in a secret rapture. 00:24:57.99\00:25:00.61 I believe that Jesus comes in power and glory 00:25:00.64\00:25:07.04 and with a tremendous noise. 00:25:07.07\00:25:10.05 I believe the dead are resurrected 00:25:10.08\00:25:12.82 and the living saints are caught up in the clouds. 00:25:12.85\00:25:16.18 And they're taken home to glory. 00:25:16.21\00:25:19.20 So I believe that what's happening 00:25:19.23\00:25:21.27 in the Middle East today 00:25:21.30\00:25:23.34 with ISIS is a taste 00:25:23.37\00:25:28.91 of what is going to come upon the whole wide world. 00:25:28.94\00:25:32.35 And just as God's believers in the Middle East 00:25:32.38\00:25:35.18 are going through a great tribulation now, 00:25:35.21\00:25:37.85 so the church is going to go through a great tribulation 00:25:37.88\00:25:41.59 before the return of Christ. 00:25:41.62\00:25:45.90 This is, for many, 00:25:45.93\00:25:47.90 a very difficult message to hear. 00:25:47.93\00:25:49.80 It's a hard one, isn't it? 00:25:49.83\00:25:51.25 It's not comfortable. 00:25:51.28\00:25:52.52 I mean, we like to believe I've come to Christ 00:25:52.55\00:25:55.21 and therefore, 00:25:55.24\00:25:56.81 well, I'm not so Pollyannaish to believe that 00:25:56.84\00:25:59.98 I'm not gonna have anymore problems. 00:26:00.01\00:26:01.58 But not much. But not a lot. 00:26:01.61\00:26:03.28 But what about the believers who suffered in Russia? 00:26:03.31\00:26:06.17 Millions put to death. 00:26:06.20\00:26:08.24 You see the gospel, that is taught over here, Dave, 00:26:08.27\00:26:11.33 is not always the gospel that is taught elsewhere. 00:26:11.36\00:26:15.70 Now if you went to the believers, 00:26:15.73\00:26:16.93 60,000 of them in the city of Mosul 00:26:16.96\00:26:20.50 which is the old city of Nineveh 00:26:20.53\00:26:22.57 and if you said to them, "Hey, you don't need to worry, 00:26:22.60\00:26:25.86 you're gonna be raptured home to glory," 00:26:25.89\00:26:29.62 you say, you're gonna go home to glory, 00:26:29.65\00:26:31.48 you're gonna be raptured home 00:26:31.51\00:26:32.75 and then the trouble's going to start. 00:26:32.78\00:26:35.13 Dave, it isn't so. 00:26:35.16\00:26:38.11 The church has always gone through 00:26:38.14\00:26:41.60 tribulation and trouble. 00:26:41.63\00:26:43.91 Jesus said, "In the world you will have trouble 00:26:43.94\00:26:47.91 or tribulation," Jesus said that. 00:26:47.94\00:26:50.87 We're called in weakness 00:26:50.90\00:26:52.86 but we're not called for weakness, I'm sorry. 00:26:52.89\00:26:54.86 But He also tells us in His scriptures 00:26:54.89\00:26:57.36 that He never allows anything to come upon us. 00:26:57.39\00:26:59.25 Absolutely. 00:26:59.28\00:27:00.32 That He does not give us the power through the spirit 00:27:00.35\00:27:03.99 to be able to handle. 00:27:04.02\00:27:05.23 That's the only way we can face the future. 00:27:05.26\00:27:07.77 Unfortunately, our time has come 00:27:07.80\00:27:10.22 far too quickly to an end. 00:27:10.25\00:27:11.59 It has. 00:27:11.62\00:27:12.82 Some of the topics that we've talked about today 00:27:12.85\00:27:15.48 and I want people to know about this 00:27:15.51\00:27:17.39 are available in our new magazine, 00:27:17.42\00:27:18.99 the Carter Report Ebenezer. 00:27:19.02\00:27:21.99 Many of the subjects that we've talked about 00:27:22.02\00:27:24.04 are in here. 00:27:24.07\00:27:25.87 Some of the articles, "Can Bad Be Good", 00:27:25.90\00:27:29.43 "Nothing Is Too Hard for God", "Signs of the Times." 00:27:29.46\00:27:32.92 Here's one that I really want to read, 00:27:32.95\00:27:34.45 "John Carter's Amazing Health Secrets." 00:27:34.48\00:27:37.58 I can't wait to get into that one. 00:27:37.61\00:27:39.47 Well, how about this? 00:27:39.50\00:27:40.75 "Why They Buried the Bishop on the Sidewalk." 00:27:40.78\00:27:45.18 This magazine is free, it's yours for the asking. 00:27:45.21\00:27:48.58 Just go to our website www.cartereport.org. 00:27:48.61\00:27:54.81 Now also, we'd love for you to write to us 00:27:54.84\00:27:57.80 and if you'd like to support this program, 00:27:57.83\00:28:00.86 we are entirely viewer supported. 00:28:00.89\00:28:03.86 The address is on the screen, you can write to us here 00:28:03.89\00:28:06.48 at the Carter Report at P.O. 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