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Today we are talking
to two eminent scientists
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Dr. Hugh Ross
and Dr. Fazale Rana
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from Reasons to Believe
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We are going to
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for the great creator God.
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Are we simply
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I have two
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and you are going to
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Dr. Ross, glad to
have you with us today.
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It's always a privilege.
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Dr. Rana, its a
privilege and a pleasure
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to have both of you here today.
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Thank you.
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And today we are
going to talk about
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"Footprints in the sand,
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evidence for the
great creator God"
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and we are glad
to have you with us.
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I want to talk about Darwin.
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Darwin talked about the
transitional life forms.
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I think he used the term
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if my memory is
working well today
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in his book "Origin of Species"
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I think he
spoke about the emerge
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or the discovery
of a innumerable.
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I think that was
the word innumerable.
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That's right.
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Missing links
that would be found
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because of those
missing links were not found.
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If they didn't
exist it would mean
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that the whole idea of evolution
was some how fatally flowed.
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Have they found
them? No, they haven't.
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You know, it's interesting
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Darwin when he
wrote, the Origin of Species
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actually devoted
a couple of chapters
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to objections to his theory
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or he raised
objections to his own theory.
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So he was pretty
honest as a scientist.
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He was groping
for light, wasn't he?
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He was and he pointed
out that the fossil record
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at known in his day
just simply didn't match
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what you would expect
if his theory was valid.
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As you said, he expected
innumerable transitional forms.
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But he said they
are going to be found,
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we haven't found them yet
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because we haven't
had enough time. Right.
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The fossil records is incomplete
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which was a
legitimate rational in his day
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because paleontology
what's in its infancy. Yes.
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But here we are a
150 plus years later.
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Yes, yes and on time.
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And fossil records
still looks the same
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as it did in Darwin's day.
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An absence or near
absence of anything
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that could be considered
genuinely a transitional form
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and we see sudden appearances.
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Every time there is
innovation in life's history
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it happens
explosively without any kind of
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evolutionary
history preceding it.
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And so we see sudden appearances
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and absence of
evolutionary change.
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The patter of the
fossil record doesn't match
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Darwin's expectations. Amazing.
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And Dr. Ross, I'm
gonna read you a statement
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and I would like
you to comment on it.
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This is from Dr. Ian Tattersall,
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the curator of Human Evolution
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at the American
Museum of Natural Histories.
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He says, if the transformational
notion were accurate,
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histories of continuity
should clearly show up
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in the structures of
the paleontological record.
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And if the truth be
told the fossils themselves
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had never really
born out this expectation.
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Indeed, Darwin
himself had been well aware
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that the record was
right with discontinuities.
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He had however
explained way this hope
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would affect with
now familiar claim
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that the expected intermediaries
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had simply not
yet been discovered.
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In Darwin's
day, with a much more
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limited record than we have now
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this was at least
attainable position.
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But it's-- the
doctor here has said
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we are a 150
years down the road.
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But well, over a hundred years
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and many millions of fossils
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later the accentual
picture has not changed at all
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quoted from his book
"The Monkey in the Mirror."
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It's a good title isn't
it? Would you comment on that?
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Well, we would now
have an understanding
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why the fossil
record looks that way.
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Thanks to astronomy
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we realize there will be
frequent interruptions of life
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here on planet earth.
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We call them mass extinction
events or supernova explodes
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or a meteor
collides with the earth
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or some there's some
kind of climate catastrophe
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that's initiated by
an astronomical event.
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What we see in the fossil record
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every mass
extinction event has followed
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by a mass speciation event
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and the mass
speciation event happens quickly
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after the mass extinction event
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and also happens where
the species of life show up
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on the terrestrial scene
with optimized ecologies.
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There is no developmental time
in the optimization of ecology
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its there right away
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and it's exactly
what you would expect
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from the
creator God of the Bible
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that tells us in Psalm 104,
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it's property of
all light to die off
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but God recreates and
renews the face of the earth
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and from an
astronomer's prospective
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that's exactly
what we would expect.
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So now, from the
view point of a biologist
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had you see all of
this working together?
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Now the evolutionary process
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as we all know is that
you go back to non-life
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and then over billions of years
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you have the simple
becoming the complex.
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How do you feel
yourself about the--
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the theory of Darwinian
or Neo Darwinian theory?
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Well, I'm highly skeptical
of the evolutionary paradigm.
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The idea that life
can come from non-life
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that life can
create itself if you will.
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I'm highly skeptical of the idea
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that once you have
life present on the planet
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that one major group can
generate another major group
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that innovation is possible
for this evolutionary mechanism.
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It doesn't mean that
there is no evolution at all.
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There is a
phenomenon called Microevolution
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where species
adapt to the environment.
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All Christians believe in.
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Right, and so we are
not rejecting this idea
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that there is limited evolution
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but to say that
evolution can explain
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the origin of life or
the history of life on earth
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I'm highly
skeptical of that idea.
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Yes, yes, because the evidence
doesn't seem to point to it.
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Yeah, my skepticism
is driven by the science
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not my commitment
towards scripture says. No, no.
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Didn't Darwin made some
other interesting comments.
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He pounded the problem
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of the trust
worthiness of the human mind.
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Now his argument
basically was this,
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if this thing between our ears
is the product of blind chance.
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If we are the product of
time plus matter plus chance
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then how can we trust it?
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I think Darwin
again was very honest
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about the potential
objections to his theory
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and the problems with
theory and this to me is,
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is what is self refuting
if you know about Darwinism.
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In that you
brought that point up
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is that if our mind evolved
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then our mind is not
about discovering truth
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or what's real about the world.
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It's simply giving us
some kind of flame work
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that allows us to survive.
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So what we learn may not be true
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or just may be suitable
in that for us to survive.
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If that's the case
then how do we know
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that Darwin's
theory is valid? Of course.
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How do we know
that anything is valid?
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How can you trust anything?
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It completely undermines
the capacity of human beings
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to have the
ability to discover truth.
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So if a person is
going to cling to evolution
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he is got to be prepared
to look at this terrible doubt
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and this terrible doubt throws
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everything in
doubt, doesn't it? It does.
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If you believe that
things came from nothing.
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And this is the power
of the Christian faith
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is that because we
take what scripture tells us
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and we are made in God's image
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it means that we
have this capacity
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coming from a
Creator who cannot lie.
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He had this capacity to
discover that which is true
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and that we can be confident
that our conclusions have truth
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if we have done our
homework appropriately.
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And this is very different again
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then in evolutionary framework
or an atheistic framework
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and in fact this is what makes
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science itself
possible ironically
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is to believe that we
have the facilities to discover
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that which is true
about the universe.
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And so in a sense
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Darwin is not only
undermining his own theory,
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he is
undermining science itself.
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I have a statement here
from the great professor Leakey.
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He said, "If pressed
about man's ancestry,
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I would have to
unequivocally say
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that all we have is
a huge question mark.
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To date, there has been found
nothing to truthfully purport
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as a transitional
species to man, including Lucy.
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If further pressed, I
would have to state that
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there is more
evidence to suggest
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an abrupt arrival of man
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rather than a gradual
process of evolution."
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So the great Leakey
who found our so called
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"Human Ancestor Lucy" in Africa
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he says when I say
that she was our originator
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or she was one of
our common ancestors.
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He says I was wrong and though
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he said the big
problem is now for us
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is at that the human race
it appears arrived suddenly.
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The fact of the matter
is he is right. He is right.
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I mean when you
look at the fossil record
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there's clearly a fossil record
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and these creatures
are called Hominidaes
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but nobody knows
how the Hominidaes
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relate to each other
in revolutionary sense
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or which them could be
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part of the human
evolutionary linage.
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In fact many of the
key cast of characters
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that are presented to
us in biology textbooks
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when it comes
to human evolution,
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Neanderthal,
Homo-erectus, Homo-habilis,
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Lucy the Taung
child and the list goes on
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and on and on are all considered
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to be evolutionary side branches
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and dead ends and
are no longer considered
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to be part of
the human path way.
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And so nobody can tell you
how human evolution happened.
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So why would we
think that had happened
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if we don't
know how it happened?
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It makes you think
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that this book
just might be true.
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And when we comeback
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I'm going to ask
you the question,
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was there an Adam
and was there an Eve?
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And we will be
back after this message.
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Welcome back to the program.
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We are talking about the
origin of the human race,
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evidence for the Creator.
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My guests are Dr. Hugh
Ross and Dr. Fazale Rana.
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Thank you for joining us today.
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Thank you for having us.
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Was there an Adam and Eve?
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The Bible says,
but we are talking--
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trying to find evidence today
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to say to people, look
there is incredible evidence
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in the scientific world
while we can trust the Bible.
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Was there an Adam and Eve?
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This is something that
is absolutely mind boggling
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that evolutionary biologists
who are trying to explain
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the origin of humanity
through evolutionary means
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have unwittingly
uncovered evidence
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for the
historicity of Adam and Eve
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is being the
progenitors of all humanity.
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And what the
scientists are doing is
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they are looking at
genetic variability of people
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around the world.
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And from that
genetic variability
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you can infer be in for the
very early history of humanity
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and it looks as if
humanity had a recent origin
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in a single location
close to where we think
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the Garden of
Eden would have been.
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Who believes this?
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This is-- this is
the scientific data.
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So whether or what is
an evolutionary biologist
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or what have you this
is what the data says.
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Humanity originates recently
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a single location
close to where we think
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the Garden of
Eden would have been
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from the very small
population of individuals
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and using a special
type of genetic marker
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called Mitochondrial DNA.
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You can literally trace
the origin of every person
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on this planet back to
a single sequence of DNA
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which is called
Mitochondrial Eve
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in the scientific literature.
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And the same thing is
true for like chromosomal DNA
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which reflects the
paternal lineage of humanity
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every man on the planet
can trace an origin back
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to a single ancestor
sequence of Y-chromosomal DNA
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called Y-chromosomal Adam
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which I would take
as the biblical Adam
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and the biblical Eve
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that there is
scientific evidence
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for a recent origin or humanity
from a prime modular earth.
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So there is solid
scientific reasons
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why we can believe?
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Well, a scientific
literature is now compelled
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to use biblical terminology
to describe the discoveries.
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This sort of blows
the mind, doesn't it?
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Yes, referred to as a
Garden of Eden hypothesis
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and they talk about
these Y chromosome Adam
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and Mitochondrial DNA Eve
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and they are talking about dates
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that are consistent
but the biblical date
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for the origin
of the Adam and Eve.
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Is truth discovered in a vacuum?
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No, people have
philosophical presuppositions
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they are bringing for the table.
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All the time. People
had life experiences.
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I find many
people who are atheists
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using science as
an intellectual excuse
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to reject the faith but
there's other issues at play
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often time's
they are angry at God
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or they are angry at
Christians or Christianity
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they have been
hurt by Christians
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or they have been
abused by Christians.
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Yeah, abused by some
pedophile in the church.
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Therefore they
say God doesn't exist.
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I would argue that the passion
of the atheists argues for God
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because if
there really is no God
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they should be
treating the existence of God
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like they were the tooth fairy.
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Yes, of course.
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But the fact that
there is so passionate
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against the
existence of God tells me
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they believe He exists
but they don't like Him.
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So truth is not
discovered in a vacuum
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is it not true
that the great Darwin
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basically went down
the road to unbelief
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because of the death
of his daughter. Yeah.
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He was in an
Anglican family, you know,
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the Church of England
and there were sometime
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when he was even very
much interested in theology.
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He studied to be minister.
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Yes, to be an Anglican
priest but he prayed honestly
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that his daughter would be okay.
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But she wasn't okay
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and this lead to
the terrible doubt
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what can God be
like if my daughter dies.
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And so, I have
discovered in my experience
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as a pastor for
many, many years now
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that truth is
not done in a vacuum.
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People reach
theological ideas as well
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as well as scientific ideas
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because of
what's happen to them,
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because of their background.
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And we were talking during
the break about a scientist
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who shall remain anonymous
who was abused in his church
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by a pedophile
and since that time
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his thinking has been
beyond being agonistic
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but a militant atheistic
and when ever he talks,
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he talks about the bad things
that Christians have done.
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He doesn't talk
about the bad things
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that atheists have done.
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That makes you think
that a lot of his thinking
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he takes the facts
that you and I talk about
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but he turns them
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to somehow fit in with the
hurt that he has gone through.
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Have you found this?
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Yeah, that's true
and along those lines
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when you make an
argument for design
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many times people will point out
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what they claim to be
bad designs in literature
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and try to use this as a way
to undermine the design argument
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and but in a sense its
kind of a an embodiment
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of this very issue
that we are talking about
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is that people see God
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as some how
having disappointed him
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and they see bad things
as a possess to God's glory
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when you look at this nature.
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So there is a
lot of anger there.
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Yes. And sometimes--
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There's also the opportunity
to put it to the test.
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They are saying hey,
this is a bad design in nature
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let's study at more depth.
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Every time we have
done and a scientist
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who we thought
was a bad designed
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turned into a
very elegant design.
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It's a great way to learn things
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you don't already know.
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And so again let's
put our atheistic belief
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to the test and see.
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If your atheism is right
and more scientific research
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will give you more
evidence for your belief.
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But if the
Christian view is right,
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more
understanding is gonna increase
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the evidence for
the Christian faith.
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So let's get back,
tell me more as a biologist
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tell me more about
evidence for the human race.
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Now this sort of
captures my imagination
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I'm astounded
that the Bible says
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the human race appeared
suddenly upon the human sea.
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Wasn't along drown
out evolutionary process?
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They came in a certain place
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that was called
the Garden of Eden
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and we can some what get
an idea of where that is.
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They didn't
appear as human beings
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seven billion,
million years ago.
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They certainly were
not related to Lucy.
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Give me more evidence
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that there was an abrupt
beginning for the human race?
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Well, another way
to think about this
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has to do with the
concept of the image of God.
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You know, we are
made in God's image
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and we are
uniquely made in God's image
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according to scripture.
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And what's interesting is
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when humans show up on the
scene there is what's called
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the socio-cultural big
bang the human revolution
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the great leap forward
these are different ways
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it's described where suddenly
you have these creatures
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that are behaving
unlike anything else
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that is ever
existed on the planet
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including
Neanderthals, including Lucy,
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Homo-erectus and Homo-habilis.
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You had creature
capable of symbolism,
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creatures capable of
making art in music, language,
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advanced
sophisticated societies emerge.
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This is evidence I believe that
human beings bear God's image
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in the fact that
it shows up suddenly
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and coincidentally with humans.
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Again its consentience with what
you would expect from scripture.
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Even evolutionary
biologist studying human origins
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acknowledge that
humans seem to stand distinct
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that were unique
in these special ways
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that I think finds explanation
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in what the
biblical text tells us.
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And so we have
taken quite a journey.
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We have gone from
astronomy down to the cell
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out in the stars we see
amazing balance complexity
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the odds if it all happening
one in so many trillions.
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We talked about the
complexity of the single cell.
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The utter impossibility of
a single cell making itself.
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There seems to be an
overwhelming evidence
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that we should believe in
God and believe in the Bible.
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And you men do,
don't you? Yes, we do.
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And you believe in the
Creator and you trust in God.
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How do you explain
the genetics similarity
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between humans and chimpanzees?
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Well I think the
Bible gives us a clue.
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It tells us that Adam was
made from the dust of the earth
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and that God breathe
the of life into him.
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Genesis 2:19 says,
the animals were made
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from the dust of the earth
as well and so that tells us
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that we are made out of the same
stuff as the other creature.
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So you would expect there
to be biological similarities.
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There have to be.
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But what's also
interesting is it also tells us
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that humans uniquely
received the divine breath.
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I think that our
mission is intentional
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we are made in God's image.
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And so what distinguishes
us from other creatures
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isn't our biology but rather
it's our spiritual make up
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the fact that we
bear God's image.
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And we have the
capacity to worship.
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Yeah, and so the
genetic similarity
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just simply reflects the fact
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we are made out of
same building blocks.
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Now what I have
discovered is this,
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that the chance of life
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and I'm talking from the
view point of evolutionist
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which I'm not but
an evolutionist says,
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that life is got to
arrive and get going and thrive
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in a very short period
of time on this planet.
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Even if its
hundred million years
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in the evolutionary cycle.
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That's not even a
watch in the night,
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it's so very quick isn't it
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and so you have these
arguments from the evolutionists
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but and because
of those arguments
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there is a new theory
that we've talked about before
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it's called
Transpermia, is that right?
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What is that mean?
Yeah it's Panspermia.
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Oh, Panspermia.
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Yeah, it's the
idea of-- Of attitude.
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Well, it's Tanspermia in
the sense of their saying
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that there is
dust that's come to us
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from other planets
and embedded in that dust
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are either bacteria or
the crucial building blocks
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like the sugars and
the DNA and the RNA.
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Is this not an
argument of desperation?
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It is an
argument of desperation,
00:25:57.69\00:25:59.40
it is an argument
that's basically been refuted
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in the scientific literature
00:26:01.84\00:26:03.56
because we know can determine
00:26:03.59\00:26:05.47
number one that dust cannot
travel across in just our space
00:26:05.50\00:26:09.73
although being so
thoroughly destroyed
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as to be useless in the
origin of light paradigm
00:26:11.47\00:26:14.65
but it's
basically showing that one
00:26:14.68\00:26:16.69
from a naturalistic perspective,
00:26:16.72\00:26:18.64
we can't explain the
origin of life on the earth,
00:26:18.67\00:26:21.49
we can't explain in
any solar system bodies,
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it can't come from
another planetary system,
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it can't come from cosmic dust.
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Yeah, we are at an origin
of life research conference
00:26:30.50\00:26:32.95
where a gentleman
came to the microphone
00:26:32.98\00:26:35.28
and said we rule that
all possible explanations
00:26:35.31\00:26:38.18
the origin of life except one
alien came here in spaceships
00:26:38.21\00:26:42.32
and brought life
here to planet earth
00:26:42.35\00:26:44.36
3.8 billion years ago.
00:26:44.39\00:26:46.30
And these people
laugh at Christians.
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Pardon me. They
laugh at Christians.
00:26:47.72\00:26:50.02
They do but we are kind
of at that conference saying,
00:26:50.05\00:26:53.33
I said to Fazale he is
getting close to right answer.
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Yes, I know.
00:26:56.15\00:26:57.18
There came alien
it is intelligent
00:26:57.21\00:26:58.82
but it's a being from beyond
matter, energy, space and time.
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Yeah, so can we agree today
00:27:02.32\00:27:06.83
and I'm sure we do that
we can trust the Bible? Yes.
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And we can trust in God
00:27:12.04\00:27:13.96
because He made
us in His own image
00:27:13.99\00:27:16.41
and the great truths of
the Bible are in harmony
00:27:16.44\00:27:20.48
with the best
discoveries of science
00:27:20.51\00:27:23.38
whether it is in biology
that you rightly represent
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or in astronomy that
you rightly represent.
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And so we would have a message
00:27:33.46\00:27:34.88
to the people watching today
whether they are young or old,
00:27:34.91\00:27:38.12
whether they go to university
they don't go to university
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you can believe in God and
you can believe in the Bible.
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There
are--there's a million reasons
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why you can believe
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and the God who
made you loves you
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and He gave His son
Jesus to die for you.
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Please write to me John Carter,
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PO Box 1900, you
see it on the screen,
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see the address in Australia
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also feel free to
contact these eminent scientists
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at Reasons to Believe
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and their address is
818 South Oak Park road,
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Covina, California 91724.
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Thank you for joining us today
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and until next
time, God bless you.
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