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How should
Christians treat gays?
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Welcome, to the Carter
Report and Fresh Hot Potatoes.
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My name is James Venegas
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and our special guest
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Pastor Carter, welcome
to the program. Thank you.
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Fresh Hot Potatoes once again.
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Glad to be
here, glad to see you.
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Yes, its good to see you too
and of course the hot potatoes
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that we are talking
about are the questions
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that are coming
in from our viewers.
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We really appreciate that,
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it helps to
really gauge our viewers
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and our internet audience.
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And we great
audience. And we do.
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We have a wonderful audience
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and we love the fact that
they are thinking audience. Yes.
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And they are not afraid
to ask the big questions.
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Very hot potato. Big hot potato.
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How should we as Christians
be treating homosexuals, gay's?
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In our current climate,
its a reality that we live in.
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How should we be reacting?
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We should treat
them with respect. Okay.
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And with dignity
and with love. Yes.
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Jesus said, "You shall
love your neighbor as yourself."
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I cannot say this too strongly
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that the attitude of
treating people badly
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because of their race,
their color or their sexuality.
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That is unchristian. We
are to know what we believe.
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I don't have to
believe the same as they do
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but every person is a
child born in the image of God.
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Every person is
distinct and glorious.
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Every person is important
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and therefore I should
treat with respect every person
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and I should do more on this,
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I should love them
as Christ love them.
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Now some Christians may say,
that sounds all well and good
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but could we be condoning
of that if it's not biblical?
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I don't have to condone
what I believe is wrong.
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I believe from scripture
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that a marriage is
between a man and a woman.
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Though I have the
right to say that,
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you better believe that.
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Now I know that
there are some people
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who would stop by saying this.
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I know this, there is a trouble
and tolerance out there today
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and some people would drain
out the voice of a preacher
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who preaches the word of God.
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I have the right to my believes
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but at the same time
I should respect those
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who think differently to me.
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They should respect me too.
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Yes, doesn't
God do that with us?
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Yes, He does. He
doesn't force himself on us.
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So that-- so you
are saying basically
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that we should remember
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the importance
of loving everybody
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regardless of their decisions.
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Now speaking of our
decisions, does God forgive us
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and if so are they
conditions to that forgiveness?
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Yes, the very basis
of the gospel is that
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Christ died for
us to bring us to God
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and to forgive us.
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So forgiveness is
taught in the Bible.
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But there is a
difference between
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genuine
forgiveness and cheap cries.
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Grace tells us
that Christ died for us,
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but it's not
cheap it cost the blood
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of the Son of the God.
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How could it be
cheap? It costs something.
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And the Bible tells me that God
will forgive any and every sin.
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There is no sin too bad for God.
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So God will forgive every sin.
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Murder, lying,
cheating, adultery
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but the Bible
tells me that there are--
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now, this where it gets a
little tough on some people.
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The Bible tells me, there
are conditions for forgiveness.
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Now, let me
please turn over here
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to the Book of
Ezekiel Chapter 33.
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Now, you know, Jesus
taught from the Book of Ezekiel.
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Jesus preached
from the Old Testament
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and so we really
don't need to apologies
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when we go to the Old Testament.
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Ezekiel 33:12 and onwards. Okay.
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Now, I'm gonna read this
slowly, we can talk about it.
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"Therefore, son of
man, say to your countrymen,
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'The righteousness
of the righteous man
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will not save
him when he disobeys,
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and the
wickedness of the wicked man
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will not cause him to
fall when he turns from it.'"
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And so, just because I
have been a righteous person,
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if I turn from that
righteousness and I do evil,
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my righteous deeds
are not going to save me.
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And the wicked
knows of a wicked man,
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is not going to dam him
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if he turns
from this wickedness.
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So the Bible says,
I have got to turn.
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Well, that people
murdering legalism there?
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Well, I guess if you
misinterpret the text,
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but legalism is not obeying God.
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Legalism is trust in our
own righteousness for salvation.
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"The righteous man, if he sins,
will not be allowed to live
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because of his
former righteousness.
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If I tell the righteous
man that he will surely live
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and then he trusts
in his righteousness
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and does evil, none
of the righteous things
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he has done will be remembered,
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he will die for
the evil he has done.
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And if I say to the wicked man,
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'You will surely
die,' it's a death sentence,
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You will surely die, but he
then turns away from his sin
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and does what is just
and right he gives back
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what he took in
pledge for a loan,
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returns what he has stolen,
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follows the
decrees that give life,
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and does no evil,
he will surely live,
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he will not die."
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Even though he is been a thief
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and a murder and a
crook, remember the mafia.
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"None of the
sins he has committed
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will be remembered against him.
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He has done what is just
and right he will surely live."
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Now, James, he got a
righteous man goes to church,
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keeps all the
commandments outwardly
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but then he turns away from God.
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The Bible says,
all his righteousness
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is not gonna save him,
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because of the evil is
done he is going to die.
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But then he says
here is an evil mind,
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he is been breaking
the commandments of God
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may be he is a murderer,
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he is an
adulterer, he is a fornicator,
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he is a thief.
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But this man comes to Christ,
and he turns from his evil way
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and his life is
transformed by the power of God
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and he lives a righteous life.
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The Bible says he is side.
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None of his evil
deeds are going to kick him
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out of the kingdom of God.
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And that's good
news. That is good news.
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But it teaches that
forgiveness is not cheap.
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Forgiveness is
given to the person
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who turns to God in repentance.
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And that seems to the
key word that turning,
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the turning and repentance. Yes.
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Yeah, it's not
just a put on, you know.
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Now, question that
flows on from that is
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once saved always saved.
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Just as following from that
there are Christians out there
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that believe that once
you made a decision for Christ
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how could you
turn away if you have,
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if you have made that decision?
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Now you could said that,
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you could be
righteous and then turned away.
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Well, that's what
the Bible says. Okay.
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All right, Ezekiel says that.
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I didn't believe in the doctrine
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"once saved always saved." Okay.
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I believe that if I
come to Christ in true faith,
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I'm saved. I believe this.
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I believe that I
passed from death on to life.
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I believe that this is the act
of God's glorious justification.
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A justification means
that I'm declared righteous
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and this happens in a moment,
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not because of my goodness
but because of God's goodness,
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because of Christ,
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because of His death
from being on the cross.
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This is the gospel. Yes, yes.
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Now, when I come to Christ,
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and I'm saved
then I return from sin,
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I will hate the sin of course
the death of the Son of God.
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And so there is
hope for every person,
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there is hope of every sinner.
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But often people are
told at doctrine that
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free from the law--
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oh, happy
condition, sin all you like
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and then get free mission.
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That's not the
teaching of the Bible.
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And it's preached
from many of pulpits.
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So, I believe that we can have
completely eternal security.
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I know, I believe that you
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and I can know
today that we are saved
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and that we are
going home to glory
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but I believe
that this salvation
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is dependent upon God.
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It depends all upon God
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but God doesn't take
from me Pastor Venegas,
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freedom of choice.
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I can turn from
God when I want to
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and if turn from
God then I will be lost.
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Lucifer in the
beginning was saint.
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Yeah, yeah. He
was a covering cherub.
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He was right
with God, he was saved
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but he became the devil. Yes.
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Now, I believe,
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I think Moody said
"holding, I'm held." Yes.
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As I hold I am held, I
do not need to fear hell
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but if I turn from
God if I turn from Christ,
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all the
righteousness will be gone.
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Yes, and of course that's
the argument from the negative,
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but let's-- let's
wrap up on the positive.
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Those of us that are struggling
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and the good news that
we can turn away from that,
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there is one
person that written in,
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his name is John actually.
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He says, most
people look at pornography.
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How dangerous is that
to ones spiritual life
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and how good is that
news, that--that we can--
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we can be released from that?
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You know this guy, Castro
who kidnapped those women?
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You know
unspeakable acts of evil.
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I heard him say my
problem was pornography.
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Pornography destroys people.
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In fact if we go
by these statistics
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it seems that most people
today are watching pornography
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that is why they can't
understand the Scriptures.
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That is why there is
so much evil in the world.
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You cannot look at filth
and not be made filthy inside.
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If I turn to God,
say if I'm a person
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I'm watching pornography I
know it's got a hold on you.
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You can't get away
from it in your own strength
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but God can help you.
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God can get you away from it.
Despair in the blood of Jesus.
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And Pastor Venegas,
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what we got to do
the power is in the word.
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A person has to turn from sin
and he is got to turn to Christ
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and start to read the Bible.
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You are a Bible
preacher, thank God.
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And I say every time
I preach to the people,
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read your Bible everyday.
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If people don't
read their Bibles
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they are going to fall into sin.
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But we can have
deliverance over sin
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and we can have victory
and we can have an assurance
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that we are going home to
glory in Christ. Praise God.
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So if we just turn from
that wicked ways to the Bible
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to the Lord of the Bible
we can find that freedom.
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Yes, and feed on the Scriptures.
Feed on the Scriptures.
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Now, we got many more
questions to answer here
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but we need to
just take a few moments
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to listen to this
very important message.
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Hello friend, I am
John Carter in Colombia.
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Behind me is the
great city of Bogota
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the capital of
this amazing country.
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This city is a city of
more than eight million souls.
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It's up more than
8,000 feet in the Andes
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and we've come here
today with one purpose in mind
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to preach the everlasting
gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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We are here because we
have a commission from God.
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Jesus said, "Go
into all the world
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and preach the
everlasting gospel
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baptizing them in
the name of the Father,
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and of the Son and
or the Holy Spirit."
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The people here need
the Gospel of Christ.
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And I am asking
you today come with us,
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if not in body but
come with us in spirit.
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This is been a
very, very dangerous city.
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A very dangerous
part of the world
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but we believe that we are safe
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when we are in the hands of God.
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Therefore I am beseeching
you in the name of Christ
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and in the name of these
eight million plus inhabitants
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in the city of Bogota to come
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and help us to
preach the word of God.
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Please support the preaching
of the word of God in Columbia.
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Please write to me John Carter,
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PO Box 1900,
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the night is coming
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Please, write to me today.
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Thank you and God bless you.
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And welcome back
to Fresh Hot Potatoes
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with Pastor John Carter.
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We are asking
questions about forgiveness
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and about sin and pornography
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and how all you need
to do is turn to Christ
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and its great news,
and we praise God for that.
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I just want to change
the angle over a little bit.
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We have a question
that's coming from Ron.
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He asks, why is there so
much violence in America?
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And I guess we
have spoken about this
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before we are Christian nation,
why is so much violence here?
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We were a Christian nation.
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This nation was
founded on the Bible.
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It was founded on
the Commandments of God
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and the early American's
where of that Godly people,
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many still are.
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We have a violence society
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that is why millions
of America's keep guns.
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And you know I'll
be the last person
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to criticize them
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because there is
so much violence. Yes.
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I think one of the main
reasons we have so much violence
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is because of the
television movie culture
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and the video culture. Okay.
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Children are looking at videos
that are absolutely violent,
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killing people,
chopping of their heads.
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Parents have got no idea
what their kids are looking at.
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And if you turn
on television today,
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it is difficult to
get a decent movie.
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There is so much quarrel
and blood and immorality.
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Now what people
look at they will become.
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Now people don't
like to think this
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but you become what you eat,
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what you feed on
is what you become.
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If a person
feeds on pornography,
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he will become a
pornographic person. Yes.
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And if a person
feeds on violence,
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even though many
people in Hollywood hate
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what I'm going to say now,
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if you feed on violence
you are feeding the violence
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in your own nature. Wow.
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You are making yourself most
acceptable to violent thought
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and violent acts and deeds.
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So it's kind of
numbing our conscientious.
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More than that it is,
it is changing man soul.
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Wow, but some would say that
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it's really just
art imitating life,
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but you don't think that.
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I don't believe
that at all. Okay.
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No, I believe by
beholding we are changed.
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The Bible says, let me read
you a text Pastor Venegas here,
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and you see I go by the Bible,
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I believe in the old
American way of thinking.
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I believe in this. I
believe in the constitution.
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I believe in the bill of rights.
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I believe in the great America
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that was founded by
the Pilgrim Fathers.
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I don't believe or have
any tolerance for this--
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this insane culture of
violence that we are breeding.
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And that, that is of
course so much suffering.
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I won't talk
about the statistics
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of the tens of
thousands of woman
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who are raped in America
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of the thousands
and the thousands
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who are shot to death.
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I think more than ten
thousand murders a year.
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And then you have got
tens of thousands of others
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who are killed
not through murders
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but another ways,
suicides and so forth.
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This is a part of
the culture of violence.
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And we have got to
say enough is enough
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and we are not
going to be a part of this
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and that we are
going to return to God
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and we are going to return
to the America of a yesterday.
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This seems
terribly old fashioned
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but it's the only solution.
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The Bible says
this, "Finally, brothers,"
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Philippians 4,
"Whatever is true, noble,
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right, pure, lovely, admirable--
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if anything is
excellent or praiseworthy--
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think about such things."
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The Bible says,
think about good things.
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You know why?
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If you look at good things
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and if you think
about good things
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that goodness
will get inside you.
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If you think about purity
and if you dwell on purity,
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the purity will get inside you.
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If you think about
things that are excellent
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you will become
an excellent person.
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But if you feed on violence,
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make my day in
crime and pornography,
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instead of these good things
being reflected in your life
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those evil things will
be reflected in your life
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and that is why it
is two minutes to 12
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it is time to return
to the God of our fathers.
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The God of the Bible.
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And I can here the amen's
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from the older
folks out here but--
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And plenty of
the young people too.
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But, we need those young people
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to understand the subtleness
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those who are at
there watching these things
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to see the subtleness
of what they are watching.
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Now, we mentioned that we
are getting questions from--
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from the internet,
we are now on Facebook
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and we have got a lot
of followers on Facebook
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and we are very
glad for to that.
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Tremendous number
in the Philippines.
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Yes, and we are very
grateful for our viewers
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and they--our friends
there and they interact
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and we got some really
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insightful
questions here for you.
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This is a question
from Phil from Facebook,
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he says, please
explain Luke 14:26
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"If anyone comes to me
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and does not hate
his father and mother,
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his wife and children,
his brothers and sisters--
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yes, even his own life--
he cannot be my disciple."
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Hate, what is that--
what is that verse mean?
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God has never told us to
hate out father and mother,
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He tells us love
your father and mother.
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The Greek word
means loveless. Loveless.
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Yes, and in parallel passages,
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Jesus said unless you
love Me more than these,
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therefore He's talking
about a hierarchy of values.
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Number one, you got to have God.
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If you don't have a
hierarchy of values,
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you gonna be
messed up in your mind.
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So, its got to be God
first, got to be others next.
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Then it's got to
be, yourself after that,
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and then it's got to be cars
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and all the rest
of that junk after.
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And so the Bible says,
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you got to love
these things less
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God is got to be the
supreme person in my life.
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So this is a good
reminder again of making sure
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that we understand the scripture
and what they are saying.
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Now, the scripture
wouldn't contradict itself
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and teach hatred.
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And if I love God the most,
I will love my wife the most.
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You see, if God is first
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my love for others will
be greatly enhanced. Yes.
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And that turns
into our last question,
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violence and all those things,
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we need to love God
first before all of the media
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and all the
pornography and all of that,
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of course these to be
first and foremost in our lives.
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Another question that
comes from the internet
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a really good questions.
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This from
Marcus, he wants to know
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your thoughts on
Matthew 10:26-28,
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Matthew 10:26-28 and it reads,
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"So do not be afraid of them.
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There is nothing concealed
that will not be disclosed,
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or hidden that
will not be made known.
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What I tell you in the dark,
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speak in the daylight
what is whispered in your ear,
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proclaim it from the house tops.
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Do not be afraid of
those who kill the body
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but cannot kill the soul.
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Rather, be afraid of
the One who can destroy
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both soul and body in hell."
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I guess the implication here is,
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what is it mean
there which says body
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and the soul, kill
the body but not the soul?
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Firstly, it's quite plain
from the words of our Lord,
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that this soul can be destroyed.
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Now people would teach
the immortality of the soul
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should give it up straight away.
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Because the Bible
says, "Soul can be destroyed"
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and when it says here body
and soul it is talking soul,
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it is talking
about great life force
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that God has put
with in us. Okay.
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Sometimes the word soul,
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well not sometimes it is
often used in different ways.
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The Hebrew word for living
soul as know is Nephesh chayah,
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Nephesh chayah.
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In the King James
Version it says, a living soul.
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In the NIV it
says, a living being.
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So, sometimes the
soul means a person,
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sometimes in the Old Testament
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and the New Testament it
means that great life force
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that God has put with in us.
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The Bible says,
don't be afraid of people,
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who can kill your body
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because your life
is in the hands of God.
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But be afraid of the
person who can destroy your body
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and your soul in hell
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and the person who can do
that of course is God himself.
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And therefore, we
shouldn't be afraid of men,
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but we should respect God
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who has that
destiny in His holy hands.
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Now, I want to
expose a little bit further
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because for some
people out there,
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they've always
believed that we have--
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An immortal soul.
An immortal soul. Yeah.
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That's a very
important fundamental belief.
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My grandmother--it now
lives on for example. I do.
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In heaven and it's a--
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That's a basis
of Roman Catholicism
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that Peter is in
heaven, everybody is in heaven.
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So, can you, just
break this time a little bit
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for those really trying to
wrestle with that question,
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what is the negatives
of believing that the,
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the soul is immortal?
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Ezekiel 18:4 says, "The
soul that sins will die".
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Ezekiel 18:4 "The
soul that sins will die."
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The Nephesh that lives will die.
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The Bible teaches that the soul
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is capable of
experience of death.
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Now, if you don't believe this,
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you believe in
the dreadful doctrine
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of the eternal
torment of the damned
00:25:58.96\00:26:02.46
that God is the
torturer-in-chief.
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You know why some people in
the dark ages tortured people
00:26:06.16\00:26:09.08
in the
Inquisition. I don't know why?
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Because, they wanted
to be like their God.
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They said God tortures
people for trillions of years.
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He put some of them in purgatory
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for million of years
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but most people He burns
and burns and burns and burns.
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It's enough to give
you a nervous breakdown
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to think of this
dreadful concept of life
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with out end in a burning,
00:26:33.58\00:26:37.23
horrible hell where
people are screaming
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and screaming and screaming.
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An un-baptized baby is screaming
00:26:41.79\00:26:44.30
for trillions of years.
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That's why Ingersoll said,
00:26:46.26\00:26:48.90
after he heard a
sermon on this doctrine
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"If that's God then I hate Him."
00:26:52.21\00:26:54.72
And another man said,
00:26:54.75\00:26:55.89
if that's God
then He is the devil.
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Even Billy Graham used to teach
00:26:59.01\00:27:02.14
eternal torment
the all of this stuff,
00:27:02.17\00:27:05.40
the immortality of the soul.
00:27:05.43\00:27:07.10
He said no, I
don't think that is soul.
00:27:07.13\00:27:09.81
The Bible teaches
that the righteous
00:27:09.84\00:27:12.68
are going to go to heaven
00:27:12.71\00:27:14.61
and they are
going to live with Jesus
00:27:14.64\00:27:15.93
for ever and ever. Praise God.
00:27:15.96\00:27:17.31
But, the Bible says
00:27:17.34\00:27:19.70
that the wicked are
going to die for ever and ever.
00:27:19.73\00:27:24.35
They are going to
be consumed by fire
00:27:24.38\00:27:27.18
but the fire is going to go out
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and I can give you a
thousand texts on it.
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I believe in the justice of God,
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I also believe in
his love and his mercy.
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Amen and I think
that's a good place to finish.
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The importance of
knowing the scriptures
00:27:40.77\00:27:42.04
is knowing the love of God.
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The mercy and the
goodness of God. Amen.
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And so Pastor Carter,
we just want to thank you
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for your time. Thank you.
00:27:47.47\00:27:48.58
We want to thank you too
for watching Fresh Hot Potatoes
00:27:48.61\00:27:51.80
and we would love
to see you next time,
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keep those questions
coming in. God bless you.
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