From Arcadia, California,
the Carter Report Presents
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"The Living
Word" around the world.
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Is the true church
based on the Apostle Peter?
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My name is James Venegas.
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Welcome to the Carter Report.
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Today our topic is
"Fresh Hot Potatoes"
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and our special guest
is Pastor John Carter.
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Jesus said, "Go
into all the world
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and make
disciples of all nations,
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baptizing them in
the name of the Father,
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Son and Holy Spirit."
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The Carter Report
team has therefore
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accepted the challenge
of worldwide evangelism.
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Millions, in Russia, Ukraine,
the Philippines, Africa,
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India,
Australia, the United States
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and the Isles of the Sea have
heard the good news of Christ.
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As John Carter has
proclaimed God's Living Word.
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You're invited to be a
part of the Carter team,
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by praying and by giving
and when God calls, by going.
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Write a note now
to Pastor John Carter,
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PO Box 1900, Thousand
Oaks, California, 91358
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or to PO Box 861,
Terrigal, NSW 2260, Australia.
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Jesus said, "With God
all things are possible."
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Pastor Carter,
welcome to the program.
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Glad to be here.
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We have a lot of
interesting questions coming in
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from our viewing audience
and now from the internet. Yes.
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So are you ready to
answer some of these questions?
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Some of these
Fresh Hot Potatoes.
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Fresh Hot Potatoes
no longer potatoes,
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hot potatoes, they're fresh.
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We live in ever
changing times and our faith
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and faith is trying to find
its place in such fluid times.
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I have questions
coming in based on the church
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and also based on what
is happening in society.
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The first
question comes from Frances
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and it is, "Is the true church
built on the Apostle Peter?"
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Basically Jesus spoke to Peter
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said that I am going to
build this church on you,
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that's what the
Bible seems to say.
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Is that the case?
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I think we should
look at the text. Okay.
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I do not believe for one moment,
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that the church is
build upon Saint Peter. Okay.
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If the church is built upon
Saint Peter, we're all lost.
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I am going to turn
over here, Pastor Venegas,
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to Mathew 16:13 and onwards.
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"When Jesus came to the
region of Caesarea Philippi,
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he asked his disciples, 'Who do
people say the Son of Man is?'
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They replied, "Some
say, John the Baptist,
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others say
Elijah, and still others,
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Jeremiah, one of the prophets.'
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What about you?' he asked.
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'Who do you say I am?'
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Simon Peter answered,"
and here it is, James,
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"You are the Christ,
the Son of the living God."
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This is the great
testimony of Saint Peter.
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"'You are the Christ,
the Son of the living God.'
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Jesus replied, 'Blessed
are you, Simon, son of Jonah,
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for this was not
revealed to you by man,
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but by my Father in heaven.
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And I tell you, you are Peter,
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and on this rock I
will build my church,
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and the gates of Hell
will not prevail against it.'"
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Now any academy would tell me
that the name Peter is Pathros.
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And the name for
the church is Petra
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isn't that a play on
words, isn't that Jesus saying,
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that He's going
to build it on Peter?
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I think what Jesus
is saying here is this,
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you are Peter, and
the word Peter of course
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as you have rightly said
can be interpreted rock. Yes.
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But there are big rocks
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and there are
little rock also you know.
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There are little tiny
rocks that just roll around,
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they're mighty rock,
there's the rock of ages.
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The church was not
built upon Saint Peter
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who later on denied his Lord
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and the gates of hell
prevailed against him.
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It was built upon the great
truth that Peter proclaimed
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you're the Christ the
son of the living God.
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That great truth is the rock
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on which the
Christian church is built.
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The Bible tells me that
Jesus rose from the dead
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and His home in
glory and He's alive,
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but Saint Peter is sleeping,
waiting the resurrection.
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I don't want to
belong to a church
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that is built
upon a sleeping saint,
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I want to belong to a
church that is built upon
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a risen triumphant
very much alive Christ.
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Now, come over here
to 1 Corinthians 10:4.
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The Bible says, "They all
ate the same spiritual food
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and drank the
same spiritual drink,
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for they drank
from the spiritual rock
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that accompanied them,
and that rock was Christ."
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All the way through the Bible,
Christ, God Himself the rock,
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the great rock of ages.
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Peter is not the rock on
which God has built His church.
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God forbid the true
church is not built upon man,
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man's church is
built upon man. Yes.
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God's church is built upon God.
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Now we have another question
flowing on from that one,
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from Xavier, 1.2
billion Catholics in the world
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and they all believe
that these been a sequential
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succession of
Apostles the Bishops.
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Pope Frances is
the latest example.
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Yes. Seems a nice guy.
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Yeah, and he's
doing a lot of good things
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and he says that Peter
was the first Bishop of Rome?
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So was he or was he not?
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Here is the text and
this is the great text
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that Martin Luther quoted.
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1 Corinthians 3, "For no
one can lay any foundation
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other than the one already
laid, which is Jesus Christ."
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No one can lay
any other foundation
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than the one already
laid, which is Jesus Christ.
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In the days of the
Bible, in the days of Peter
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they were no Popes, no Popes.
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The papacy did not
come into existence
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until hundreds of
years after Saint Peter.
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The idea that
Peter was the first Pope
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is simply church tradition
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and is not worth the
paper it is written on.
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What is more, Peter in the
Bible had a mother-in-law. Yes.
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You read about this
where Jesus went and healed
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the
mother-in-law of Saint Peter.
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James, it's
dreadfully had to have
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a mother-in-law without a wife.
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Very true, very
true and impossible.
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So, Peter was a married man.
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And yet one of the
main factors of the papacy,
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is that the Popes and the
priest have got to be celibate
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which is completely opposed to
the teaching of the word of God.
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Now we have got to
make this very plain. Yes.
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We love Roman
Catholic people. Yeah.
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And we respect
Roman Catholic people,
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we respect the
Pope but our authority
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is not the teaching
of the church of Rome
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or the teaching of any church.
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It is solo
scriptura and is scripture
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and the idea that
Peter was the first Pope
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is simply a
tradition of the church
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and it is
completely ironies and false.
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So it's incredible, a
few thousand years now
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so many people, so what would
you say to it a Catholic person
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to help them understand this
difference between tradition
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and scripture, how
can they see the light?
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I find around the world
that millions and millions,
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tens of millions,
probably hundreds of millions
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of Earnest Roman
Catholics are coming to believe
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in the principle of
solo scriptura. Yeah.
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Which means only
scripture because the church,
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every church
frequently contradicts itself.
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The Roman Church is
frequently contradicted itself.
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They have changed
their views and their ideas
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so they don't publicly this.
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But millions of Roman Catholics
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are coming to the view
point that Jesus taught.
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It is written, "Man
shall not live by bread alone
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but by every word that proceeds
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out of the mouth of God."
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We must build
upon the word of God
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not upon the word of
fallible men and women.
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Now a well know Catholic
is Piers Morgan from CNN.
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He's a very
opened Catholic believer.
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But, he's not a very good one.
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He's not a very
good one. But he--
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Because he doesn't
believe what his church teaches.
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Well, basically
he is saying that
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society has
been changing so much
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with the same
sex marriage issue,
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that perhaps the
Bible is deficient
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or needs a mending to
adjust to our cultural times.
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Is that, is that something
that we should be doing?
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That's why I said,
he's maybe a very good man
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and he's excellent
interviewer. I enjoy him.
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But he can't be a
very good Catholic
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because his Catholic
church is automatically
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taken a stand
against same sex marriage.
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If he's a Roman
Catholic and he's sincere one
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he should do what his
church tells him to do
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because that his the
basis of being a Roman Catholic
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to be obedient to the
teachings of the church.
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But James, there's
a text in the Bible
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that I doubt if our dear
English friend knows much about.
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He may but I doubt if he
reads a great deal of the Bible.
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I could be wrong of course.
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Romans 3:2 says,
"Much in every way!
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First of all," he is talking
about the Jewish people. Yes.
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"They have been entrusted
with the very words of God."
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This book here consists
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of the very words of
God but in the words of men.
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But nevertheless the thoughts
are the very thoughts of God.
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This is not an
ordinary book. Yes.
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Now, our friend of CNN
says, I heard him say it,
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he said it to a well
known preacher of this country.
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And he said,
well, don't you think
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we are to just change
the Bible words says things
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that we don't believe anymore.
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No, we need to change
the things that we're doing
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that are concrete
to the word of God.
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Yes, yes.
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But he uses some arguments
that almost make sense.
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He says, in the
Bible it teaches that
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that if a women is caught
in the adultery that we are--
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that person should be stoned,
should be killed for that
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and obviously he says that,
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that is not a
teaching that would make sense.
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Of course, he's not
quoting all the scripture.
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He doesn't quote the
New Testament, does he?
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No, he doesn't.
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And Jesus the
Almighty the Son of God
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interpreted the Old Testament
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and there was a case
where a women was brought
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into the Lord's
presence and she had been caught
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by the Pharisees in
the very act of adultery.
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How would they
catch her? Very true.
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You know, how
did they catch her?
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Well we think that one of there
cronies one of the Pharisees
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was the one committing adultery
with her so it was a set up.
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Jesus said, "He
who is without sin,
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let him be the first
to cast a stone at her."
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Now another thing
that my friend Mr. Morgan
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perhaps should consider is this,
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that the children of
Israel in the Old Testament
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lived under a
different system to us.
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They lived under a system
which is called a theocracy.
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Now many of our Muslims friends
wish to set up a theocracy.
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Some of the
Middle Eastern countries
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are theocracies
like Saudi Arabia.
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God is the actual
head of the country
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and the Quran is the law book
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and so they
judge people by Quran
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because they do not understand
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the separation
of church and state.
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But in the Old
Testament for a period,
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Pastor Venegas,
of some 1500 years,
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you have a system
of church organization
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which doesn't exist today. Yes.
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It was the
system of the theocracy
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and laws were
carried out and enforced.
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So if you murdered
you will put to death.
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If you committed adultery
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which was another
sin, you'll put to death.
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If you willingly openly broke
the Sabbath you'll put to death.
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Now on that
thought, on that thought
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we have some decisions being
made by our own current law
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and we're gonna
discuss that in just a moment
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after some very
important announcements.
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Hello friend, I am
John Carter in Colombia.
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Behind me is the
great city of Bogota
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the capital of
this amazing country.
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This city is a city of
more than eight million souls.
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It's up more than
8,000 feet in the Andes.
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And we've come here
today with one purpose in mind
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to preach the everlasting
gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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We are here because we
have a commission from God.
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Jesus said, "Go
into all the world
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and preach the
Everlasting Gospel,
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baptizing them in
the name of the Father,
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and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit."
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The people here need
the gospel of Christ.
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And I am asking
you today come with us,
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if not in body but
come with us in spirit.
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This is been a
very, very dangerous city.
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A very dangerous
part of the world
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but we believe that we are safe
when we are in the hands of God.
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Therefore I am beseeching
you in the name of Christ
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and in the name of these
eight million plus inhabitants
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And we're back with some more
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"Fresh Hot Potatoes"
with Pastor John Carter.
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Now we have been talking
about Piers Morgan Catholicism
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and the changes that are
happening in our society.
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Well, lets get right
to it, same sex marriage,
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it's been gaining ahead of steam
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and now has
been virtually passed
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this law in the
State of California.
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The Supreme Court
has now revoked Prop 8
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and Christians and
everyone abound now to a law
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that has been
inactive by government.
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You were telling us
that in the Old Testament
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there was a
theocracy and God was the ruler
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and everyone must obey.
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What happens when you
live in a Christian country
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and these laws are
inactive almost in God's name?
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Are we bound to follow suit?
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Jesus said, "Render the Caesar
the things that be Caesar's."
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And to God the
thing that bigots,
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a Christian has, Pastor Venegas,
a true hierarchy of values.
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God first, the law of
God first others next.
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Then you have got the
state and the Supreme Court.
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While we're citizens of
the United of the America
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or Australia or somewhere else
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and while we're loyal citizens
our first loyalty is to God.
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And if the government
should come along and tell us
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to violate out consciousness
we're duty bound to say,
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no, we will serve God
rather then serve men.
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Peter said, I
leave to you to judge.
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Shall we obey you
or shall we obey God?
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Now the
government, the Supreme Court,
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I don't care who, the church,
they do not have the right
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to interfere with
my religious beliefs.
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And if I believe
something according to scripture
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then I will go with scripture
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even though it maybe
country to the law of man
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and the Bible is very plain
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as far as same sex
marriage is concerned.
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It is perfectly plain.
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So it's different to a theocracy
then this is a man made law.
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Or some people would like
to have a theocracy today.
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It is been talked about for
years in the greats, land of
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the United States of
America where we live.
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It will be good if we
had Christ to us as the king.
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That we would have the
laws of God being enforced.
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No, no, that takes
you back to the dark ages.
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That's the very
essence of antichrist.
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The Bible doesn't teach that.
The soul of man must be free.
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And Christians have
got to have the courage
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and the gumption and
the conviction to say
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as for me and my house
we will serve the Lord.
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We respect the Supreme
Court, we respect the presidency
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but the Supreme Court cannot
violate my religious rights.
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Now on this you
mentioned religious rights.
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Some people would say
that the Bible teaches
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that everyone has a
right to be equal. Yes, yes.
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And so same sex marriages
are defended on this basis
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that it's biblical
to respect people right
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and to married to
be equal in every way
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to have all the federal benefits
and everything like that,
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what would you say with that?
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I believe there are
such things as civil rights.
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I believe that we
should respect people.
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I have nothing but abhorrence
for organizations or groups
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that attack
individuals on the basis
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of there race
or there sexuality.
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I think that's abhorrent. Yeah.
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I have seen
churches in this country
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with huge big
signs up in the streets
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calling people terrible names
because of their sexuality.
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I think that is so
unlike the Lord Jesus Christ,
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I believe this. Yeah.
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So I believe in respecting
people's civil rights.
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But as a Christian
who follows the Bible
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I must teach the word of God.
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My wife said to me
sometime back she said,
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the time will come soon when
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there will be people
going to prison again
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because they disagree with
the state or the state church
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or whatever on
certain religious beliefs.
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We must be prepared to die
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rather then give up our
faith in the word of God
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and the teachings of the Bible.
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If the state or the
Supreme Court has a law,
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next week that says
that polygamy is right.
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And they have as much
reason to pass that law
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as I had to pass the
law on same sex marriage.
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As this brought out by--
what was one of U.S. news,
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one of the papers
I read a commentary.
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They have this much right to
pass the law condoning polygamy
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or any of those
things as same sex marriage.
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But whatever they pass that does
not affect by personnel beliefs.
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And as a citizen of this country
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I am at this very moment
protected by the constitutions,
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at this moment how long this
is going to avail I don't know
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but I am told in
the bill of rights
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the church and
state ought to be separate
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and the Congress should not pass
any law favoring one religion
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and they cannot
force down my throat
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some idea that I believe
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is completely
contratery to the word of God.
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Now having said that I believe
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we should respect the
civil rights of all people.
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Homosexuals, I don't care
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who they are we
should love people.
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So you're saying
that respect civil rights
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but they has to be
some moral absolutes.
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Absolutely.
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Now if America which was
once founded by the pilgrims
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and by the puritans,
that let's go off the Bible
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we have got a better
dozen or more states now
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going down this way.
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We turn away from
the Bible completely.
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Do you think that America
will survive, will endure?
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This is the most
contentious controversial issue
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and people like to
have the Pollyanna complex
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where by they say
we're the greatest
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and we will
always be the greatest.
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So said the Romans. Yeah, yeah.
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So said Spain
until the Spanish Armada.
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So said my old motherland
and Mr. Morgan's motherland
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Greater Britain. Yes.
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But she's not so great anymore.
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America's greatness is
not her who nuclear arsenal,
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America's greatness has been
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her feudality to
guard in the laws of God.
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Now even though we
don't believe in theocracy.
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This nation was founded upon
Christian-Judaea principles.
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This is what the
country was based upon.
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You throw out this book
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and if you throw out
the Commandments of God
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America will go down
the same as the Roman Empire
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and every other
empire that is proceeded her.
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That's what Ben
Carson said to the president.
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Let me read here a
little passage here.
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Jeremiah 36:10 and to the people
who are watching out there
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in television land,
listen, verse 10 says.
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"From the room of Gemariah
son of Shaphan the secretary,
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which was in the courtyard
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at the entrance of the
New Gate of the temple,
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Baruch read to all the
people at the Lord's temple
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the words of
Jeremiah from the scroll."
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So he was
reading the word of God.
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And the king heard
about this and the king said,
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bring me this
scroll and let me hear it.
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You know what the scroll said,
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because of the sins
of the people of God
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Jerusalem was
going to be destroyed.
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Wow So what was Jeremiah doing?
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Well in the eyes of the people
he was committing treachery.
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He was saying
that the Babylonians
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were going to come and
destroy the temple of God
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and the city of
Jerusalem, high treason.
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Now, you come to verse 21,
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"The king sent
Jehudi to get the scroll,
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and Jehudi brought
it from the room of--"
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it goes on goes on,
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"It was the ninth month
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and the king was
sitting in the winter apartment
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with a fire burning in
the firepot in front of him.
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When Jehudi had read three
or four columns of the scroll,
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the king cut them
off with a scribe's knife
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and threw them into the firepot,
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until the whole
scroll, the entire scroll
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was burned in the fire."
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And so as the
word of God was read,
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the mighty king
and his presumption
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took the scroll,
cut it with the penknife
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and throw it into the fire.
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Many people
today, Pastor Venegas,
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are taking the word of God
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and cutting it with
their own penknife. Yeah.
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They are
throwing it into the fire.
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You know what
happened to their king?
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What happened? And
Jerusalem, destroyed.
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The city was
completely destroyed
00:26:36.90\00:26:38.66
and the people were eventually
taken as salves into captivity.
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They had an
origin more illustrious
00:26:44.21\00:26:48.05
than the United
State of America.
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Then they were brought
out of Egyptian bondage.
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God gave them
the Ten Commandments,
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wrote it with His own finger.
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They were the chosen people
of God, the chosen city of God.
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They were the Israel of
God and yet they were destroyed
00:27:02.35\00:27:06.90
because they
destroyed the word of God.
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If America, any individual,
any nation, any government
00:27:10.17\00:27:17.03
I don't care you
can give any name to it,
00:27:17.06\00:27:19.96
takes the word of God
and cuts it with penknife.
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They will be responsive.
There will consequences.
00:27:22.78\00:27:25.30
Yeah. Yes.
00:27:25.33\00:27:26.57
So what a tremendous warning
for us living in these days.
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Yeah, we shouldn't mess with God
00:27:29.29\00:27:30.60
and we shouldn't
mess with the word of God.
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And we shouldn't let culture
lowered down the word of God.
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No, but most people will.
00:27:36.66\00:27:38.48
Now Pastor Carter, we have had
so many great questions today
00:27:38.51\00:27:42.82
and really
reflecting where faith is
00:27:42.85\00:27:45.33
and where our culture is and
importance of the word of God.
00:27:45.36\00:27:48.48
We want to thank
you, for your time.
00:27:48.51\00:27:50.35
We love getting these
fresh hot potato questions
00:27:50.38\00:27:53.58
and we love to answer them.
00:27:53.61\00:27:54.95
And there is more to
come. And there is more to come.
00:27:54.98\00:27:56.65
And if you have
any more questions
00:27:56.68\00:27:58.13
that you would like
for Pastor Carter to answer
00:27:58.16\00:28:00.84
please write to us
or go to our website
00:28:00.87\00:28:03.14
at carterreport.org
00:28:03.17\00:28:05.41
and we will present them
here and we will answer them
00:28:05.44\00:28:07.65
and you will be able to hear
what Pastor Carter has to say.
00:28:07.68\00:28:10.24
Thank you, very much for
your time, Pastor Carter.
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My pleasure.
00:28:11.49\00:28:12.53
God bless you, we
will see you next time.
00:28:12.56\00:28:13.92
Thank you. Thank
you for watching.
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