From Arcadia,
California, the Carter report
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presents "The Living
Word" around the world.
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Hello, and
welcome to the program.
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I am James Venegas.
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Today we are dealing with one
of the most controversial issues
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of our day, 'Same sex marriage.'
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The president of the
United States of America
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has come out recently in
support of same sex marriage.
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So it is without much importance
that we ask the question.
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What does the
Bible say about marriage
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and the
homosexual lifestyle today?
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My guest is
undoubtedly the most recognized
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evangelist of our time.
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He is the president of the
Carter Report, John Carter,
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we will hear what he has to say
in just a moment, stay tuned.
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Hello friend, I am John Carter.
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I am here today to tell
you the most amazing news.
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I want to thank you
firstly in Jesus' name
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for your magnificent support.
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We are on our
way to Port Moresby,
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the capital of Papua New Guinea.
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We are going to see
the amazing power of God.
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We are going there to
preach the everlasting gospel.
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I will be preaching every night
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outdoors in the
national stadium.
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The locals tell us we will have
over 100,000 people a night,
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some say a 150,000 people.
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A few have said, maybe 200,000
but I want you to know this.
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We go in the name of Christ
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to preach the
gospel and to save souls.
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And I am saying today,
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I can't do this
without your help.
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I have got to raise right now
$500,000 for this great campaign
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that is going to shake
an entire nation for God.
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Please be my partner.
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Write to me, John
Carter, PO Box 1900,
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Thousand Oaks,
California, 91358.
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In Australia, my Aussie friends,
please write to Terrigal.
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The address is now
appearing on the screen.
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Please stand with me in
this tremendous outreach
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to the people of
Papua New Guinea.
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We used to talk
about mission impossible.
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All of a sudden it has
become mission possible.
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This is an opportunity to reach
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an entire nation for
the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Please write to me
today and I want to say
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to you from my heart to
yours, thank you in Jesus' name.
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Pastor Carter,
welcome to the program.
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I am glad to be here.
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Now you've
known for your candor,
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your passion, your
straightforwardness.
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I never knew. And recently,
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the president of
the United States
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was quoted to saying
this, "I've always been adamant
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that gay and lesbian Americans
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should be treated
fairly and equally.
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It is important for me" he says,
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"To go ahead and
affirm that I think,
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same sex couples should
be able to get married."
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And for me that's
an incredible statement
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from a very influential man.
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Firstly, let me ask you.
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What do you
think about gay people?
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I think we got
to love gay people,
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because they
are children of God.
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Treating people
badly for whatever reason
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is unchristian and bad. Yes.
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I saw recently or some time
ago, there was a gay parade,
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and I think in one of the
cities of the United States.
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Okay. And there were
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Christians
standing on the sidelines
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with big placards that
said, "burn" word "burn"
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and they are doing
this in the name of God.
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The Bible tells us that
"God so loved that world
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that He gave His only Son.
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So that whoever believes
in Him shall not perish,
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but have everlasting life."
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God loves homosexual people.
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He loves lesbians.
He loves gay people.
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God loves people and
we should love them too.
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Yes, yes. So the president
has said that he supports it.
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What does the
Bible say about marriage
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and the homosexual lifestyle?
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With all respect
to the president,
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I think the
president is completely wrong.
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I don't know if I said
that plain enough, but-
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Hearing it loud and clear.
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I am a Bible believing
Christians, a Christian.
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I am naive enough to believe
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that a Christian
believes the Bible.
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And so I believe
that the Bible is above
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the constitution
of the United States,
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it is above the White
House, it is above the Vatican,
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it is above any
church organization,
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it is above any committee.
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This is what is called
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the Protestant
Principle of Sola Scriptura.
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Yes. Only scripture.
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And so while I love homosexuals,
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I cannot deny
what the Bible says.
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Leviticus 20:13, "If
a man lies with a man,
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as one lies with a
woman, both of them
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have done what is detestable."
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And you can read on
because it even gets stronger.
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And then Pastor
Venegas, when I turn over here
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to the New
Testament, some people say,
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well, that's
just the Old Testament
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and we don't go by
the Old Testament anymore.
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Well, Jesus did you know.
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And Jesus was the Son of God
and the only Bible that Jesus
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used was the Old Testament.
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Romans 1:26
says, "Because of this,
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God gave them
over to shameful lusts.
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Even their women
exchanged natural sexual
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relations for unnatural ones.
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In the same way,
men also abandoned
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natural relations with
women and were inflamed
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with lust for one another.
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Men committed
indecent acts with other men,
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and received in themselves
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the due penalty
for their perversion."
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And that is of course, St. Paul.
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Now you are the pastor of
that church and a good pastor.
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Thank you. Not only a
good pastor, we like you.
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Thank you. It's always
good to like the church pastor.
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You are a pastor now. Yes.
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Now Pastor Venegas.
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It says in the
gospels, Jesus says these words,
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in the beginning God
made the male and female
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and said for this
reason, a man will leave
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his father and his
mother and be joint to his wife
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and they shall become one flesh.
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As it has been said,
God made Adam and Eve,
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not Adam and Steve and
you know that it serves.
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Absolutely. The very term
gay marriage is incorrect.
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It's an oxymoron.
Two men joined together
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don't have a marriage.
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A marriage is
between a man and a woman,
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and I don't say
this to insult the gays
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whom I appreciate and
I love, I have met them,
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I have talked to them,
I've associated with them.
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I find so many of them
such beautiful, kind people.
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But I say to them
in the fear of God,
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my conscience is bound
according to the Word of God.
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Yes. So how is it, just a
flowing from that question
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that we are in
a Christian nation
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and this president is
a Christian president,
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that he could
uphold such a view?
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Well, I don't wish
to judge the president,
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I am sure he's a good man. Yeah.
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But he certainly not
upholding the scriptures.
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In fact he made the comment
that you may be aware of,
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that his Christian principles
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let him to make
such a declaration.
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Well, because he
is saying, you know,
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we ought to love
people and we ought to. Yes.
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I have said over and
over again in this church
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when I preached here.
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The doors of
this church are open
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to homosexuals to any person.
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Jesus loves people.
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And Jesus died for
sinners, we all sinners.
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Yes, yes. And some of us
and remember this too my friend.
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Jesus taught that the
sins of the spirit were worse
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than the sins of the flesh.
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So Jesus said, "The
pride of the church people
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is a lot worse
than the adulteries
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and the fornications
of the prostitutes."
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Boy, you know, you know,
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I'm running for office obviously
myself but listen to this. Yeah.
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The president is
being guided by his feelings
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and he is not going
according to the Word of God,
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that's his problem. Yes.
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So let's bring this
down to an individual,
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well, we have viewers
that are struggling themselves
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with issues like this
one and issues with sin.
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I have a viewer
that writes in and says,
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"I sometimes feel that I
have committed unpardonable sin.
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Is there any hope for
me," this person writes.
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If a person asks that question,
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he or she has not
committed the unpardonable sin.
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The people who don't
ask it are most likely
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the ones who have or may have.
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Now if you come to Mathew 12:31,
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"So I tell you,
every sin and blasphemy
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shall be
forgiven men and women."
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Now there's no
sin too bad for God.
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That should give
hope to every person.
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And the church exists to say,
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that Christ died
for the ungodly. Yes.
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But Jesus says,
"But the blasphemy
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against the spirit
will not be forgiven."
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The unpardonable sin is when
we sin away the Spirit of God.
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The Spirit of God is
the agent of salvation.
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He comes from God through Christ
and he speaks to our hearts.
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Now it's possible to so
resist the Holy Spirit of God
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and to say no to God
so often that we build
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a barrier
around our hearts. Yes.
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And when our hearts
are as hard as this table
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and I'm feeling
and I'm moving then
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it's a sign for great cause.
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The Bible says, "Grieve
not the Holy Spirit of God."
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You can grieve the
Spirit of God by your lifestyle
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and by your
impenitence and by your hardness
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and the best place
of course to commit
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the unpardonable
sin is in church.
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That's right.
Especially if you got
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a good preacher like you.
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See, if you got a good preacher,
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and he is
preaching for his word,
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and he's got the
Spirit of God in him,
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then people will be
convicted of their sins.
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Yes. If they
resist that continually,
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they will harden their
hearts and that can lead
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to the unpardonable
sin for that person.
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Yes, so what you're
saying is this person
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in even
wrestling with the guilt.
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Yes, that shows they
haven't committed it.
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They haven't gone
beyond the point of no return.
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No, no, but they
better get back to reading
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their Bibles
and repent and start
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going to a good church
where Christ is the Lord.
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Absolutely. Now I
have another parson
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that writes in,
her name is Penina.
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She says, I am a
newly baptized Christian.
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My baptism was at your
mission in the Solomon Islands,
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she says. Alleluia.
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How can I grow and
deepen my spiritual life
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when I face so many temptations?
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Jesus said, quoted in Mathew 4,
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what's her name? Penina.
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What a nice name. Hello, Penina.
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I am so glad that
you came to Christ
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in those meetings,
in the Solomon Islands.
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God bless you Penina.
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God loves you, so do I, Penina.
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Now Jesus said in Mathew 4,
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"Man shall not
live by bread alone,
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but by every word that proceeds
out of the mouth of God.
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Yes. Weak, weak, weak
insipid Christians own Bibles
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and spend their
time on their computers,
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playing computer games
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and watching television. Yes.
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You become what you feed on.
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If you feed on junk, you'll
become junk inside your head.
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And a person grows
in grace by reading
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the scriptures and by
praying and by coming,
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going to church and
keeping the Lord stay holy,
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that's the Sabbath.
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And I have another question
from another lady Caroline.
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She asks a very
similar, very similar question.
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I am sure she is
not from the Solomon's
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although but she might be.
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She says, "Will I be saved if
I only read my Bible at church?"
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And I guess that's the
same thing that you're saying.
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Well, you know, that's sort
of a little legalistic attitude,
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God bless her,
Caroline is it? Caroline.
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Caroline you ought to
read your Bible at church
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but you ought to read it more.
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Do you only eat once a weekend
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after you come home
from church, Caroline?
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If you want to live, you got
to eat food, you got to drink
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and you got to do it on a
regular basis, like every day.
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I read my Bible
every day, you know why?
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Because I need to.
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I've been a pastor 50 years.
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Of course, you could never tell
by just looking at me, do you?
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But what I am
telling you is this.
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I've seen so many
people come to Christ
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and I've seen a lot
of them losetheir way.
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Yes. And the ones who lose
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their way do so,
because of spiritual indolence.
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They say, don't
tell me what to do.
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Nobody tells me what to do.
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And they are pretty good
at putting their carbs down.
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Yeah. And they think they got
00:14:35.59\00:14:36.85
to do that too, to
live and they have to,
00:14:36.88\00:14:38.63
they don't read
the scriptures. Yes.
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You need to read the scriptures,
00:14:41.09\00:14:42.45
soak yourself in the scripture.
00:14:42.48\00:14:43.88
Spurgeon, more than
a 100 years ago said,
00:14:43.91\00:14:47.08
lean Christians own
Bibles and feed on newspapers.
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He said lean Christians
own Bibles we say it today.
00:14:50.59\00:14:54.11
Yes. And spend all their
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time on the Internet.
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Or in front of the one-eyed
monster who sits in Aberdeen.
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Very sure, very true.
00:15:01.37\00:15:03.24
Now another lady,
we have all the ladies
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running at the
moment, not sure that's about
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your good looks
or not, she says--
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Well, let's say it is.
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She says and
her name is Glennis.
00:15:11.74\00:15:13.71
"I was watching
your program recently
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and so many
people being baptized,
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it is good to see,
you are doing a great job
00:15:18.00\00:15:20.42
of work for God, but why
doesn't this happen in Australia
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and of course
you're from Australia.
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Why don't we see these things
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happening back
home in Australia.
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Okay, I'm going
to talk to Glennis.
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Yes. Glennis, better listen
00:15:34.79\00:15:36.65
to this young lady.
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It can happen in Australia,
it can happen anywhere
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where people having
vision and faith in God.
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The Bible says, about Jesus.
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He did not many mighty works
there because of their unbelief.
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And unbelief is found
particularly among people
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who look like us in a western
world in England, Australia
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and other places,
they say, it can't be done.
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Oh it can't be done.
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It's because they don't
have faith and if it s done,
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they say, people
have said to me when I ran
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in the Sydney Opera House,
I had 20,000 people there.
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They said
firstly, they won't come.
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Yeah. Then secondly,
00:16:20.23\00:16:21.37
when they came they
said, they won't stay.
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So they have no faith in God,
00:16:24.39\00:16:27.10
they do not have a
relationship with Christ,
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a meaningful
relationship with Christ.
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Let me read you a
text out of the Bible here.
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and onwards,
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"And I saw another angel flying
in mid air" Kings James Version.
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"In the midst of heaven,
and he had the eternal gospel
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to proclaim to those who live
on the earth to every nation,
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tribe, and language and people."
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The three angels are seen
flying in a midst of heaven,
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that's a worldwide proclamation,
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some people and
some religious people,
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would like to
keep the angels down
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among the
cabbages and the squirrels.
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They have a limited
view and understanding
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of what is this talking about.
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God does things in a
big way and the message
00:17:24.87\00:17:28.85
is proclaimed in
the midst of heaven.
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We are going shortly to
run a campaign in a great city.
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They say we will have more
than a 100,000 people a night.
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People have said,
"It can't be done."
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Well, we have seen it happen.
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We've seen it happen.
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We believe it will happen again,
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but you got to
have faith in God.
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And I would say to the
people in England or Australia,
00:17:52.33\00:17:55.50
or the United States of
America, if it's not happening
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in your town, you
were to ask yourself
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a question,
what's wrong with me.
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Because for too long I think
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we blamed the
atheists and called them.
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Yeah, got nothing to do with it.
00:18:07.42\00:18:08.79
But there's nothing
we can do to change.
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I baptized
thousands of atheists,
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I baptized tens of
thousands of communists,
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even members of the KGB.
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So it all starts with our faith.
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It starts with the church. Yes.
00:18:19.58\00:18:22.68
And too often the church is like
the text in-there's a Proverbs
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where there is no
vision the people perish.
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People have little vision.
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Remember, the great saying,
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"Attempt great things for God,
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expect great things from God."
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Now we have to pay for
these great campaigns ourselves,
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hundreds of thousands, millions.
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People say, "It's impossible."
00:18:46.89\00:18:47.92
No, it's not.
Soon as we embark upon
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a great campaign,
before as we start to preach
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as we move out into the Red Sea,
00:18:54.14\00:18:56.81
the money comes in.
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I know churches and
conferences will say,
00:18:58.56\00:19:00.89
"We don't do anything till
we have the money in the bank."
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That's why they
don't do anything.
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You don't get it
until you move out by faith.
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So friend have faith in God.
00:19:07.68\00:19:10.71
Now moving along
we have another lady,
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her name is Denise.
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And she says, I often heard
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pastors refer to
Enoch, Moses and Elijah
00:19:15.55\00:19:18.92
as having gone to
heaven and then she says
00:19:18.95\00:19:21.41
where in the Bible
does it actually said,
00:19:21.44\00:19:23.09
that they are in fact in heaven.
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Well the Bible
says about Enoch, Enoch
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walked with God and
he was not because God
00:19:27.92\00:19:31.19
took him or where
would God take him.
00:19:31.22\00:19:33.91
And then it says
in the New Testament,
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it's the Book of Jude I think
it says, "Enoch did not die."
00:19:36.29\00:19:42.11
It said he escaped
death, while he certainly living
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on this earth and
being thousands of years old
00:19:45.63\00:19:49.13
and so he is
obviously gone somewhere else,
00:19:49.16\00:19:52.32
and I think he would
got to be with the Lord
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and I think that's
a logical conclusion.
00:19:54.90\00:19:56.97
Yes and in Mathew
chapter, no the one that says,
00:19:57.00\00:20:02.75
he didn't dies,
I find it in Hebrew
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I believe, about Hebrews 11.
00:20:05.12\00:20:07.04
But in Mathew 17, Jesus
meets with Elijah and Moses.
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Transfiguration.
Yeah, you can read
00:20:14.54\00:20:16.35
that with your own
blue eyes or brown eyes.
00:20:16.38\00:20:21.56
Jesus met with Elijah and Moses
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and He talked with them
while they were in the grave.
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Now Elijah had been
caught up in the fiery chariot,
00:20:29.55\00:20:32.37
taken home to
glory, he never died.
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Zoom, went home to glory.
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And Moses died and
we're told in the Book of Jude
00:20:36.95\00:20:42.03
that the devil tried to
keep his body in the grave.
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There was a dispute
over the body of Moses
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read it in the Book of
Jude, Moses was resurrected.
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Yes. To the home and glory.
00:20:52.96\00:20:54.66
So basically, what
you're saying is that,
00:20:54.69\00:20:56.55
it doesn't actually
say it, but by implication
00:20:56.58\00:20:58.31
where else would they be.
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Yes, where else would they be.
00:20:59.67\00:21:00.81
Well, Jesus was talking to them.
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Exactly, exactly. We have a
gentleman by the name of Jim,
00:21:02.68\00:21:06.23
and he writes in
along the similar lines,
00:21:06.26\00:21:08.81
he says "You preach
that when a person dies,
00:21:08.84\00:21:11.65
he or she sleeps
until the Lord's return.
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Moses died, and he had appeared
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with the larger of
the transfiguration"
00:21:16.62\00:21:17.98
we'd just talked
about that now, yeah.
00:21:18.01\00:21:20.14
He says, "Is Moses
now in heaven with Jesus
00:21:20.17\00:21:22.76
and not in the grave." Yes.
00:21:22.79\00:21:24.16
And for this person
it's obviously important,
00:21:24.19\00:21:25.75
he says, "I've been taught
that your spirit goes to heaven
00:21:25.78\00:21:28.98
until the Lord's return.
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And then your body
comes out of the grave."
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You don't believe that?
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Jim, I should
read a text to you.
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Now people say, you
teach that death is a sleep.
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Well, I only
teach it, because Jesus
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taught it and still teaches it.
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Now I'm turning
to John 11:11-14,
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"After he said these,
he went onto tell him,
00:21:53.35\00:21:56.68
our friend
Lazarus has fallen asleep,
00:21:56.71\00:22:02.11
but I am going
there to wake him up.
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His disciples replied to, "Lord,
00:22:03.87\00:22:05.54
if he sleeps,
he will get better.
00:22:05.57\00:22:07.85
Jesus had been
speaking of his death,
00:22:07.88\00:22:11.60
but his disciples
thought he meant natural sleep.
00:22:11.63\00:22:15.53
So then He told them
plainly, Lazarus is dead."
00:22:15.56\00:22:20.32
And then you read on
in verse 38 and onwards
00:22:20.35\00:22:23.71
he goes to the tomb and He
wakes up the sleeping Lazarus.
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Jesus said that
death was a sleep.
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All the way through
the Bible, time after time,
00:22:32.65\00:22:36.63
death is referred to as
a sleep and people sleep.
00:22:36.66\00:22:41.74
Now Jim, listen
to this my friend.
00:22:41.77\00:22:44.28
Go read through
1 Corinthians 15,
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it is the one
entire chapter in the Bible
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that talks about
the state of the dead.
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Yes. And it says
that the last enemy
00:22:51.52\00:22:53.26
to be destroyed is death.
00:22:53.29\00:22:56.30
Christians make
death their friend.
00:22:56.33\00:22:58.87
1 Corinthians 15
says, it's the last enemy
00:22:58.90\00:23:01.97
to be destroyed and it's
destroyed when Jesus comes.
00:23:02.00\00:23:06.08
You think it's
because, it's a bit
00:23:06.11\00:23:07.88
of a coping mechanism to
deal with the reality of death.
00:23:07.91\00:23:11.36
Yeah, people don't like to
think that the dead are dead.
00:23:11.39\00:23:15.94
They want to think
that the dead are alive.
00:23:15.97\00:23:18.73
But the dead are
sleeping in the grave awaiting
00:23:18.76\00:23:21.76
the resurrection,
same as Jesus did.
00:23:21.79\00:23:24.09
Yeah. He slept in the
grave until His resurrection.
00:23:24.12\00:23:27.57
Jesus said in John 5 and John 6,
00:23:27.60\00:23:30.12
all those who are in their
graves will hear His voice,
00:23:30.15\00:23:33.33
and will come forth.
00:23:33.36\00:23:35.05
Well, people say,
it's only their body.
00:23:35.08\00:23:36.46
No, he said,
those people there. Yes.
00:23:36.49\00:23:39.46
Now the spirit returns to
God that is the breadth of life,
00:23:39.49\00:23:44.84
goes back to God and the person
sleeps in the grave, peaceful.
00:23:44.87\00:23:52.17
You can't contact the dead.
00:23:52.20\00:23:54.54
And when Jesus comes,
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17,
00:23:54.57\00:24:00.31
1 Corinthians 15:51 and onward,
00:24:00.34\00:24:03.33
it tells us that
the dead become immortal
00:24:03.36\00:24:06.67
and are raised to life again,
at the second coming of Christ.
00:24:06.70\00:24:10.49
The second coming of
Christ is our hope, not death.
00:24:10.52\00:24:14.17
Now, John, just
on a personal note,
00:24:14.20\00:24:15.65
I had lost my
father a few years ago,
00:24:15.68\00:24:17.54
and I found a lot
of comfort in knowing
00:24:17.57\00:24:19.43
that he is resting
in peace, rest in peace.
00:24:19.46\00:24:21.72
Good console.
Awaiting the resurrection.
00:24:21.75\00:24:23.35
Yes. Now on this question,
00:24:23.38\00:24:24.83
Alonzo takes us a
little bit deeper into this.
00:24:24.86\00:24:26.94
Alonzo! Alonzo.
Thats a good name.
00:24:26.97\00:24:29.11
Yeah, he asks, "If
we sleep when we die,
00:24:29.14\00:24:31.79
what about the
verse, and I think it's kind
00:24:31.82\00:24:34.57
of misquoted here, he says,
00:24:34.60\00:24:35.89
'To be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord."
00:24:35.93\00:24:39.07
I am not sure
that's the exact quote.
00:24:39.10\00:24:40.16
Oh, that's pretty right.
00:24:40.19\00:24:41.64
"To be absent with the body
is to be present with the Lord,
00:24:41.67\00:24:43.97
how about
Abraham's bosom in the story
00:24:44.00\00:24:45.99
of the rich man and Lazarus'?
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All right. A
troubling text. Alonzo,
00:24:47.59\00:24:50.63
you're doing good
and it's a good question.
00:24:50.66\00:24:53.35
Let me give you an
answer from the Bible.
00:24:53.38\00:24:57.72
Now what you gonna
to do in the Bible,
00:24:57.75\00:25:00.86
Alonzo is not just take
one text you got to take
00:25:00.89\00:25:03.64
the whole lot of them, you see.
00:25:03.67\00:25:05.26
Yes, yes. Let me
read Jesus' text.
00:25:05.29\00:25:07.87
"Therefore we
are always confident,
00:25:07.90\00:25:10.45
and know that as long as
we are at home in the body,
00:25:10.48\00:25:15.33
we are away from the Lord."
00:25:15.36\00:25:18.18
And verse 2, "Meanwhile,
00:25:18.21\00:25:20.95
we groan longing to be clothed
with our heavenly dwelling."
00:25:20.98\00:25:26.84
While we are in the
sinful mortal bodies,
00:25:26.87\00:25:31.30
James, we groan. Yes.
00:25:31.33\00:25:34.31
And the older we
get, the more we groan
00:25:34.34\00:25:37.32
Okay. Your
groaning is still to come.
00:25:37.35\00:25:40.93
It's still to come.
But as time goes by,
00:25:40.96\00:25:42.61
as the bodies wear out,
we groan in these bodies.
00:25:42.64\00:25:46.07
Yes. And we longed
00:25:46.10\00:25:47.35
to be clothed
with a new body. Yes.
00:25:47.38\00:25:49.73
Now we are going
to get a new body,
00:25:49.76\00:25:51.66
but we don't get
it at death. Yes.
00:25:51.69\00:25:55.01
The body is in the
grave, we get a new body
00:25:55.04\00:25:57.94
when Jesus comes.
00:25:57.97\00:25:59.14
Now I'm going to come,
this is pretty important
00:25:59.17\00:26:01.63
because most
people don't get this,
00:26:01.66\00:26:04.37
and most people don't read
their Bibles and most people
00:26:04.40\00:26:07.02
just say what they
believe what the preacher says.
00:26:07.05\00:26:10.42
We will not all
sleep, there it is again,
00:26:10.45\00:26:13.14
"We are not all going to sleep,
00:26:13.17\00:26:15.56
but we will all be
changed in a flash,
00:26:15.59\00:26:17.93
in the twinkling of an
eye, at the last trumpet."
00:26:17.96\00:26:20.34
It's not death.
00:26:20.37\00:26:22.00
"For the trumpet will
sound-- like out of the,
00:26:22.03\00:26:26.45
the great part of the, Messiah,
you know the great music.
00:26:26.48\00:26:32.52
I won't try to be
it from the beginning.
00:26:32.55\00:26:34.48
That's right, thank you.
00:26:34.51\00:26:35.71
"The dead will be
raised imperishable,
00:26:35.74\00:26:38.05
and we will be changed.
00:26:38.08\00:26:40.50
For the perishable must clothe
it self" here's the clothing.
00:26:40.53\00:26:44.95
"Clothe yourself
with the imperishable
00:26:44.98\00:26:46.98
and the mortal with immortality.
00:26:47.01\00:26:49.25
When the perishable has been
clothed with the imperishable
00:26:49.28\00:26:53.02
and the mortal
with the immortality,
00:26:53.05\00:26:55.09
then the saying that
is written will come true,
00:26:55.12\00:26:57.42
'Death has been
swallowed up in victory.'"
00:26:57.45\00:27:00.19
And that happens not at
death, but when Jesus comes.
00:27:00.22\00:27:03.92
Such an important truth. Yes.
00:27:03.95\00:27:06.01
So many of our viewers
still wrestling with this issue,
00:27:06.04\00:27:08.49
and I have another one.
00:27:08.52\00:27:10.04
Bill, who writes," John,
00:27:10.07\00:27:12.32
is that true that you don't
believe in an eternal hell,
00:27:12.35\00:27:15.02
which is in adjunct to this.
00:27:15.05\00:27:16.56
Thank you, Bill.
00:27:16.59\00:27:17.94
And he says, didn't Jesus talk
more about hell than heaven.
00:27:17.97\00:27:21.54
How about the biblical passage,
00:27:21.57\00:27:23.12
again the 'Richman and Lazarus'
00:27:23.15\00:27:25.35
who was in hell
asking for Abraham
00:27:25.38\00:27:27.46
to dip his finger in
the cool or cool water,
00:27:27.49\00:27:31.15
to cool his tongue
in the fires of hell?
00:27:31.18\00:27:33.12
Yes. Can you also ask
00:27:33.15\00:27:34.76
that his brother be
warned so his problem
00:27:34.79\00:27:38.40
was that he wouldn't
believe even in hell.
00:27:38.43\00:27:41.35
What's your view on hellfire?
00:27:41.38\00:27:43.14
Well, it's not my view at
all, it's the biblical view,
00:27:43.17\00:27:45.66
but James, Bill
is doing very well.
00:27:45.69\00:27:48.83
Yes. And he's asked a very,
00:27:48.86\00:27:50.42
very good question, I
wish every body who watch
00:27:50.45\00:27:52.98
their television program,
was as good as the people
00:27:53.01\00:27:55.92
who are asking these questions,
00:27:55.95\00:27:57.43
because these
people are thinking.
00:27:57.46\00:27:59.75
And I commend
them with all my heart.
00:27:59.78\00:28:02.07
Exactly. I am proud of
my television audience,
00:28:02.10\00:28:05.44
because they are second to none,
00:28:05.47\00:28:08.86
so I believe in hell.
00:28:08.89\00:28:12.03
Oh yes, I believe
in a red hot hell.
00:28:12.06\00:28:14.64
I believe in a hell
that's going to burn up sinners
00:28:14.67\00:28:16.99
and sin and the
devil and everybody else.
00:28:17.02\00:28:19.75
Now Jude says in a
similar way, "Sodom and Gomorrah
00:28:19.78\00:28:24.53
and the surrounding
towns gave themselves up
00:28:24.56\00:28:27.40
to sexual
immorality and perversion."
00:28:27.43\00:28:32.37
You better go and read
and see what that perversion
00:28:32.40\00:28:35.04
was and our
president, our beloved president
00:28:35.07\00:28:39.59
ought to go and read
about it too in his Bible,
00:28:39.62\00:28:42.45
in the Book of Genesis,
Mr. President God bless you.
00:28:42.48\00:28:46.32
"In a similar
way, Sodom and Gomorrah
00:28:46.35\00:28:48.16
and the surrounding towns gave
00:28:48.19\00:28:49.58
themselves up to sexual
immorality and perversion.
00:28:49.61\00:28:54.34
They serve as an
example of those who suffer
00:28:54.37\00:28:56.73
the punishment of eternal fire."
00:28:56.76\00:28:59.47
I have been to the
sites of Sodom and Gomorrah,
00:28:59.50\00:29:02.42
the southern
part of the Dead Sea.
00:29:02.45\00:29:03.95
I've been there,
I felt the ashes run
00:29:03.98\00:29:06.61
through my fingers.
00:29:06.64\00:29:08.36
I looked at the little
pieces of the human bone,
00:29:08.39\00:29:11.63
those places are
not burning today.
00:29:11.66\00:29:14.45
The fire came down and
it was an imperishable fire.
00:29:14.48\00:29:18.30
It was unquenchable fire.
00:29:18.33\00:29:20.46
And it burns for ever and ever
00:29:20.49\00:29:23.17
while there was
anything there to burn.
00:29:23.20\00:29:26.62
But when the fire
has done its work,
00:29:26.65\00:29:28.70
the fire went out and
hell would go out too.
00:29:28.73\00:29:32.86
And the Bible says,
Sodom and Gomorrah are a type,
00:29:32.89\00:29:36.61
are an illustration of hell.
00:29:36.64\00:29:39.30
So it's pretty hard now, I'm
going to give you another text.
00:29:39.33\00:29:42.58
Yes please. Bill,
00:29:42.61\00:29:44.27
you better look at the text,
Bill because you are a thinker,
00:29:44.30\00:29:48.21
but the problem is, many
people are not like you, Bill.
00:29:48.24\00:29:51.98
I get a few texts on
Sunday and on the weekends
00:29:52.01\00:29:55.20
from preacher that's all I hear.
00:29:55.23\00:29:58.29
But I don't hear the rest.
00:29:58.32\00:29:59.68
Mathew 13, Jesus
talks about hell,
00:29:59.71\00:30:03.78
"As the weeds are pulled
up and burned in the fire,
00:30:03.81\00:30:07.84
so it will be, at death,
00:30:07.87\00:30:11.00
no, so it will be
at the end of the age.
00:30:11.03\00:30:16.47
The Son of Man will
send out his angels,
00:30:16.50\00:30:18.41
and they will
weed out of his kingdom
00:30:18.44\00:30:19.88
everything that causes
sin and all who do evil.
00:30:19.91\00:30:22.77
They will throw them into
the fiery furnace, that's hell,
00:30:22.80\00:30:25.55
where there will be
weeping and gnashing of teeth.
00:30:25.58\00:30:27.76
Then the righteous
will shine like the sun
00:30:27.79\00:30:29.85
in the kingdom of their Father.
00:30:29.88\00:30:31.24
Whoever has
ears, let them hear?"
00:30:31.27\00:30:32.81
There is hell at
the end of the world.
00:30:32.84\00:30:36.51
And the fire's going to go out.
00:30:36.54\00:30:38.26
Now the story of the
rich man and Lazarus.
00:30:38.29\00:30:41.06
Well, you can
take it on or two ways.
00:30:41.09\00:30:43.40
I prefer to take it in the
way that the Bible teaches.
00:30:43.43\00:30:47.35
The Bible in Luke 16,
00:30:47.38\00:30:50.56
not going to look
it up, don't have time.
00:30:50.59\00:30:52.14
Luke 16:19 and onwards
00:30:52.17\00:30:54.24
talks about the
rich man going to hell.
00:30:54.27\00:30:58.95
And it talks
about Lazarus the beggar
00:30:58.98\00:31:01.90
going to Abraham's bosom.
00:31:01.93\00:31:04.48
Now he must have a big bosom
00:31:04.51\00:31:05.78
to take all the
righteous if it's true.
00:31:05.81\00:31:08.76
I mean, if it's literal. Yes.
00:31:08.79\00:31:10.38
The Bible is not
always to be taken literally,
00:31:10.41\00:31:14.96
if someone says,
there are parables,
00:31:14.99\00:31:18.62
that old passage of the
Bible is full of parables.
00:31:18.65\00:31:23.06
And so the Bible
even uses stories
00:31:23.09\00:31:26.85
that are not literally true
to teach great central truths,
00:31:26.88\00:31:31.52
and so what is it teaching.
00:31:31.55\00:31:32.59
Now if the story
is literally true,
00:31:32.62\00:31:35.41
if it's literally
true, some people would urge,
00:31:35.44\00:31:37.81
and heaven and
hell are so close,
00:31:37.84\00:31:39.70
that the people in hell
and the people in heaven
00:31:39.73\00:31:42.17
can talk like you and me. Yes.
00:31:42.20\00:31:43.83
They are so close together.
00:31:43.86\00:31:45.39
One of us is burning like mad
and the other one is enjoying,
00:31:45.42\00:31:48.30
we won't talk about who is and--
00:31:48.33\00:31:50.00
but the other one is
enjoying the bliss of paradise,
00:31:50.03\00:31:53.20
the Bible doesn't
teach such nonsense. Yes.
00:31:53.23\00:31:57.81
The Bible doesn't teach that.
00:31:57.84\00:32:00.62
What would a drop of
water in your tongue do for you
00:32:00.65\00:32:04.47
if you are
screaming and blazing? Yes.
00:32:04.50\00:32:07.32
This was an idea that was
held by some of the Jews. Yes.
00:32:07.35\00:32:11.63
And the story teaches this.
00:32:11.66\00:32:13.39
Here's the punch line as
you find in old parables.
00:32:13.42\00:32:16.78
After death, that's it.
00:32:16.81\00:32:20.08
Don't pray for the dead,
their fate is sealed. Yes.
00:32:20.11\00:32:24.50
And once you die, after death
00:32:24.53\00:32:26.94
it's going to be heaven
and hell that's for sure,
00:32:26.97\00:32:29.49
and the rest of the
Bible tells you when.
00:32:29.52\00:32:32.04
But accept God
and accept Christ now,
00:32:32.07\00:32:34.93
because once you
die, it's too late,
00:32:34.96\00:32:37.83
that's the point of the parable.
00:32:37.86\00:32:39.80
So it's important for
us to take the whole Bible,
00:32:39.83\00:32:41.59
not to just grab
one, little bit--
00:32:41.62\00:32:42.78
The text without a
context is a pretext.
00:32:42.81\00:32:45.99
Now we have a very big question
00:32:46.02\00:32:47.99
that we want to
answer in just a moment.
00:32:48.02\00:32:49.38
It is--it says there
is increasing concern
00:32:49.41\00:32:51.48
over the use of NIV
Bible, in our churches,
00:32:51.51\00:32:55.23
where people claim
that there are lot of words
00:32:55.26\00:32:57.00
and passages missing.
00:32:57.03\00:32:58.76
And the question I want to
put to you in just a moment,
00:32:58.79\00:33:00.66
is should we stop using
this translation altogether
00:33:00.69\00:33:02.97
and go back to the faithful KJV.
00:33:03.00\00:33:06.01
And we will hear what
Pastor Carter has to say on that
00:33:06.04\00:33:09.34
in just a moment
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Welcome back.
00:35:15.69\00:35:16.72
We are talking
with Pastor Carter
00:35:16.75\00:35:17.95
about some extraordinary
controversial issues
00:35:17.98\00:35:20.63
and at the moment
we've led on the table
00:35:20.66\00:35:22.08
the issue of the NIV Bible.
00:35:22.11\00:35:25.14
Should we be doing away
with this Bible altogether
00:35:25.17\00:35:27.95
because people are saying
00:35:27.98\00:35:29.30
that there are
words and phrases missing?
00:35:29.33\00:35:30.89
Should we go back
to the KJV exclusively?
00:35:30.92\00:35:33.70
What do you have to say
about that, Pastor Carter?
00:35:33.73\00:35:35.48
Many sincere Christians
ask that question. Yes.
00:35:35.51\00:35:40.05
I love them, God love them.
00:35:40.08\00:35:42.04
I had somebody
write to me and said,
00:35:42.07\00:35:44.52
we sure hope you use the
King James Version in Russia.
00:35:44.55\00:35:48.03
You preached to millions there
00:35:48.06\00:35:49.22
and hope you're using the
King James Version in Russia.
00:35:49.25\00:35:53.03
Well, I have a Russian
Bible there. True, true.
00:35:53.06\00:35:55.59
And it's not for
greatest translation
00:35:55.62\00:35:58.30
but God can use
it to save souls.
00:35:58.33\00:36:01.97
What people ought to stop doing
00:36:02.00\00:36:03.92
is they need to stop debating
00:36:03.95\00:36:05.97
about the
relative merits of the NIV
00:36:06.00\00:36:09.93
and they got to
start to read their Bible,
00:36:09.96\00:36:12.28
and practice it, you see. Yes.
00:36:12.31\00:36:14.35
But what people
don't understand is
00:36:14.38\00:36:17.54
how the Bible is translated.
00:36:17.57\00:36:21.19
Now the King James Version
is my favorite translation.
00:36:21.22\00:36:25.17
I am so glad that Americans
00:36:25.20\00:36:27.02
love the Bible of
the Church of England.
00:36:27.05\00:36:30.49
They say what?
00:36:30.52\00:36:32.05
Yes, it's the Bible
of the Church of England,
00:36:32.08\00:36:34.64
the Church of England
gave it to you with love. True.
00:36:34.67\00:36:39.17
It was translated
in '60 the King James,
00:36:39.20\00:36:42.90
well we don't have a
king over here. Yeah.
00:36:42.93\00:36:45.58
I'm crying out loud
as they say in Texas.
00:36:45.61\00:36:51.15
It was translated in 1611.
00:36:51.18\00:36:54.12
People in the days of the Bible
00:36:54.15\00:36:56.05
did not call themselves
'the' and 'thou' and 'thine'
00:36:56.08\00:37:00.76
they used normal
language like 'you' and 'me'
00:37:00.79\00:37:05.13
the others are
completely out of issue,
00:37:05.16\00:37:06.93
there's something else.
00:37:06.96\00:37:09.17
What the NIV does and some other
00:37:09.20\00:37:11.22
modern speech translations
like the American Standard. Yes.
00:37:11.25\00:37:16.25
They have access to a
greater number of manuscripts,
00:37:16.28\00:37:18.89
there are no
original manuscripts. Yes.
00:37:18.92\00:37:21.49
It is an art and a science
00:37:21.52\00:37:23.46
to find the most
ancient manuscripts,
00:37:23.49\00:37:27.18
and so they by a
comparisons of the manuscripts
00:37:27.21\00:37:30.56
like the Dead Sea scrolls,
brought out to be recent,
00:37:30.59\00:37:34.49
you know only 60
years ago or something. Yes.
00:37:34.52\00:37:37.23
They can find the clearest text,
00:37:37.26\00:37:42.80
the most accurate text. Yes.
00:37:42.83\00:37:45.16
Now some people have asked me.
00:37:45.19\00:37:46.41
What about the
New World Translation.
00:37:46.44\00:37:50.40
Isn't that the Bible that
the Jehovah's Witnesses use?
00:37:50.43\00:37:52.16
Well, God bless
those Jehovah's Witnesses,
00:37:52.19\00:37:53.94
but they don't
have a good translation.
00:37:53.97\00:37:56.91
It's a biased translation.
00:37:56.94\00:37:58.50
It is not an
accurate translation.
00:37:58.53\00:38:00.48
But one of the most
accurate translations
00:38:00.51\00:38:02.22
on the market is the Bible
00:38:02.25\00:38:03.50
I've got here the New
International Version.
00:38:03.53\00:38:05.92
If you don't read it,
read the Kings James Version.
00:38:05.95\00:38:08.34
And if you don't like that,
read the New King James Version.
00:38:08.37\00:38:11.11
But the most
important thing that you can do
00:38:11.14\00:38:13.81
is to read your Bible everyday.
00:38:13.84\00:38:16.99
Don't talk about
it, read it and obey it.
00:38:17.02\00:38:21.05
Excellent.
00:38:21.08\00:38:22.11
Now we have another writer
00:38:22.14\00:38:23.62
who I guess is asking a
more prophetic question,
00:38:23.65\00:38:26.37
his name is Joseph. Good name.
00:38:26.40\00:38:28.19
Yeah, very good
name, biblical name.
00:38:28.22\00:38:30.22
How close are we to
the king of the south
00:38:30.25\00:38:33.90
arriving on the scene?
00:38:33.93\00:38:35.14
I believe Christ
is returning soon,
00:38:35.17\00:38:37.01
but the king of the
south has to appear first.
00:38:37.04\00:38:39.37
Yeah, that's a rather
profound prefigure question,
00:38:39.40\00:38:42.64
I-- I can talk on that,
00:38:42.67\00:38:44.96
you know, for a long time
or as they say in Australia,
00:38:44.99\00:38:47.02
till the cows come home.
00:38:47.05\00:38:50.11
In Daniel 11, you
have the battle between
00:38:50.14\00:38:53.29
the King of the North
and the King of the South.
00:38:53.32\00:38:56.98
It is generally conceded today
00:38:57.01\00:38:58.78
that the term
'King of the North'
00:38:58.81\00:39:00.44
refers to the
last great antichrist.
00:39:00.47\00:39:03.71
The power of the
little horn of Daniel 7,
00:39:03.74\00:39:06.67
a little horn of Daniel 8
and the power of Revelation 13.
00:39:06.70\00:39:10.41
We won't go into
that in depth. Yes.
00:39:10.44\00:39:13.02
The King of South
originally was Egypt.
00:39:13.05\00:39:16.71
It's King of the South.
Yeah the physical King of South.
00:39:16.74\00:39:19.07
And the north was Babylon.
00:39:19.10\00:39:21.16
So the King of the North
is spiritual Babylon today
00:39:21.19\00:39:24.39
and the King of the
South today is spiritual Egypt.
00:39:24.42\00:39:30.42
Egypt was
idolatry, and blasphemy,
00:39:30.45\00:39:34.30
and a power that
said, who is Jehovah
00:39:34.33\00:39:36.60
that I should obey him.
00:39:36.63\00:39:39.02
It refers to a power
00:39:39.05\00:39:40.60
that is belligerently
opposed to the living God.
00:39:40.63\00:39:44.75
Some would say, it's
the atheistic communism,
00:39:44.78\00:39:48.81
or militant communism.
00:39:48.84\00:39:51.01
And the Bible
says, in the last days,
00:39:51.04\00:39:53.49
this great militant
communism, spiritual Egypt,
00:39:53.52\00:39:57.85
the spirit of the old pharaohs
00:39:57.88\00:39:59.51
will become a
tremendous force in the world.
00:39:59.54\00:40:02.50
It's happening today,
it already has happened.
00:40:02.53\00:40:05.15
And history is repeating itself.
00:40:05.18\00:40:07.54
I believe that we are
living in the last days.
00:40:07.57\00:40:12.25
So these things are opponents--
Yes, I think so, yes.
00:40:12.28\00:40:15.40
Now this one you'll
find very interesting.
00:40:15.43\00:40:17.19
Her name is
Pratibha. Nice name, Pratibha.
00:40:17.22\00:40:19.95
I think it's a she.
Let's hope it's a man.
00:40:19.98\00:40:21.87
Yeah, well it
could be a he or she.
00:40:21.90\00:40:24.12
Pratibha is the
person who is asking,
00:40:24.15\00:40:26.49
they write,
"Dear, Pastor Carter,
00:40:26.52\00:40:28.42
I am a Hindu
convert from South Africa
00:40:28.45\00:40:32.18
and I am of Indian descent,
00:40:32.21\00:40:34.50
I've been told that
my customary sari dress--
00:40:34.53\00:40:37.38
it's a lady. It's a lady.
00:40:37.41\00:40:39.17
It's a lady. There we go.
00:40:39.20\00:40:40.40
She asks, whether a
sari dress is improper
00:40:40.43\00:40:43.76
and not
appropriate or inappropriate
00:40:43.79\00:40:46.50
and whether she's
clinging to tradition,
00:40:46.53\00:40:47.93
I think she's been told that,
00:40:47.96\00:40:49.64
and she says, I
would appreciate your view
00:40:49.67\00:40:51.57
on this kind of a dress.
00:40:51.60\00:40:52.86
I've worn it for a long time,
00:40:52.89\00:40:54.09
if it's not allowed, what
is appropriate dress in church.
00:40:54.12\00:40:58.09
For her. For her.
00:40:58.12\00:41:00.15
A sari. Okay.
00:41:00.18\00:41:02.39
Now bless her, here's a woman
who has come from Hinduism,
00:41:02.42\00:41:09.40
a pagan religion
with all these Gods,
00:41:09.43\00:41:12.74
but they have a
national costume, it's a sari.
00:41:12.77\00:41:17.62
It's modest. It's beautiful.
00:41:17.65\00:41:19.76
I've preached in India there
00:41:19.79\00:41:22.00
and when the ladies
come by the thousands
00:41:22.03\00:41:24.30
to the meetings they have saris.
00:41:24.33\00:41:26.88
They look
beautiful, they look dignified,
00:41:26.91\00:41:29.98
that's what she ought to wear.
00:41:30.01\00:41:32.54
And people in
the church would say,
00:41:32.57\00:41:35.18
she's following tradition.
00:41:35.21\00:41:38.93
Well, she is not
following tradition
00:41:38.96\00:41:41.00
like her critics are.
00:41:41.03\00:41:43.99
Who says that the
western dress came
00:41:44.02\00:41:47.74
and solid from
the hand of God. Yeah.
00:41:47.77\00:41:51.57
It is simply a
narrow minded concept.
00:41:51.60\00:41:54.22
So I want to say to
this beautiful lady,
00:41:54.25\00:41:56.38
who has come
from a Hindu church.
00:41:56.41\00:41:58.79
You are welcome in our
church any day wearing your sari
00:41:58.82\00:42:04.01
because God loves you
and so do we. Amen. Amen.
00:42:04.04\00:42:08.61
I totally agree, Pastor Carter.
00:42:08.64\00:42:10.29
Now the next question is I
assume this is a gentleman,
00:42:10.32\00:42:13.61
but it could go either
way. His name is Pokie.
00:42:13.64\00:42:15.50
No, it's got to be
definitely a gentleman.
00:42:15.53\00:42:17.40
You've come
across Pokie's before?
00:42:17.43\00:42:19.26
I-- not for many years,
but when I grew up in Brisbane,
00:42:19.29\00:42:23.80
one of my best
friends, who is called Pokie.
00:42:23.83\00:42:28.75
He is a great guy. Yes.
00:42:28.78\00:42:30.48
He may be the
one sending this out.
00:42:30.51\00:42:31.73
It could be him. Everybody--
00:42:31.76\00:42:33.18
but they didn't call it to
him, unkindly or sarcastically,
00:42:33.21\00:42:36.38
it was sort of an
affectionate term.
00:42:36.41\00:42:38.63
So Pokie, with a
lot of affection,
00:42:38.66\00:42:41.36
we thank you for the question.
00:42:41.39\00:42:42.77
And he asks, and it's
an important question.
00:42:42.80\00:42:45.26
Is Sunday the true
day of worship, Sunday?
00:42:45.29\00:42:49.58
Well, Pokie, let me try to
give you some text in the Bible.
00:42:49.61\00:42:55.59
Of course,
Sunday is not mentioned
00:42:55.62\00:42:56.96
in the Bible by name. Yeah.
00:42:56.99\00:42:59.43
The Sabbath is, but
Sunday is the day of the sun.
00:42:59.46\00:43:03.74
We got it from the Romans,
00:43:03.77\00:43:05.65
the pagan Romans who
worship their gods on Sunday.
00:43:05.68\00:43:10.34
But it isn't the day that
Jesus resurrected from the tomb.
00:43:10.37\00:43:12.08
Yes, it is, it is
the first day of the week
00:43:12.11\00:43:14.03
and when people
want to dispute that,
00:43:14.06\00:43:16.48
you just say to them, go
and look up any encyclopedia,
00:43:16.51\00:43:20.23
the Sabbath is the seventh day
00:43:20.26\00:43:22.30
and that is the day we
call Saturday today. Yes.
00:43:22.33\00:43:25.10
Sunday is the
first day of the week.
00:43:25.13\00:43:26.95
All of the
Christians believe that
00:43:26.98\00:43:28.65
Jesus rose from the dead
00:43:28.68\00:43:29.88
on the first
day. On the first day.
00:43:29.91\00:43:31.20
And that's why they keep Sunday
00:43:31.23\00:43:32.63
even though the
Bible doesn't tell you to.
00:43:32.66\00:43:34.47
Revelation 1:10 says,
00:43:34.50\00:43:38.05
"On the Lord's day
I was in the spirit."
00:43:38.08\00:43:40.31
So the first truth we are
going to establish is this,
00:43:40.34\00:43:44.02
there is a Lord's Day.
00:43:44.05\00:43:46.36
Okay. Yes.
00:43:46.39\00:43:47.61
Not every day is the
same, there is the Lord's day.
00:43:47.64\00:43:50.62
Now which day is the Lord's day,
00:43:50.65\00:43:52.74
we go to the
Bible that Jesus used
00:43:52.77\00:43:56.57
and that's the Book of Isaiah
00:43:56.60\00:43:58.84
and it is, this tells
us which is the Lord's day.
00:43:58.87\00:44:02.62
Isaiah 58:13, in my NIV.
00:44:02.65\00:44:10.62
It says, "If you keep your
feet from breaking the Sabbath
00:44:10.65\00:44:14.94
and from doing as you
please on my holy day"
00:44:14.97\00:44:19.68
he's got a holy
day, it's the Sabbath.
00:44:19.71\00:44:22.36
"If you call the
Sabbath a delight
00:44:22.39\00:44:24.95
and the Lord's
holy day honorable."
00:44:24.98\00:44:27.78
Let me give you some
facts, Pastor Venegas.
00:44:27.81\00:44:31.28
Sunday is never
called the Sabbath.
00:44:31.31\00:44:34.54
The first day of the week
is never called the Sabbath.
00:44:34.57\00:44:36.99
There's no record of Jesus
or the disciples keeping Sunday
00:44:37.02\00:44:43.81
or the first day of the week
in honor of the resurrection.
00:44:43.84\00:44:47.01
That is the myth. Okay.
00:44:47.04\00:44:48.71
It is not taught
in the scriptures.
00:44:48.74\00:44:50.52
The first day of the week
00:44:50.55\00:44:51.64
is mentioned 8
times in the New Testament
00:44:51.67\00:44:53.53
and I can reel them off,
00:44:53.56\00:44:54.79
but not one of those
texts says it's a holy day.
00:44:54.82\00:44:57.70
Sunday or the
first day of the week
00:44:57.73\00:44:59.68
is never called
the Lord's day. Okay.
00:44:59.71\00:45:02.85
Where do we get this from?
00:45:02.88\00:45:03.93
From the Roman
Catholic church fathers.
00:45:03.96\00:45:06.83
But you can't find with Sunday
00:45:06.86\00:45:08.53
or the first of the week
is called the Lord's day.
00:45:08.56\00:45:12.06
I believe as an old
fashioned Bible Christian,
00:45:12.09\00:45:15.14
I believe in the
Gospel of Christ,
00:45:15.17\00:45:17.88
I believe I am
saved by Christ alone.
00:45:17.91\00:45:20.52
I believe in the blood of Christ
00:45:20.55\00:45:22.06
and I believe in
the Ten Commandments.
00:45:22.09\00:45:24.83
And the fourth commandment says,
00:45:24.86\00:45:26.22
"Remember the
Sabbath day to keep it holy."
00:45:26.25\00:45:29.02
The seventh day is the
Sabbath of the Lord, your God.
00:45:29.05\00:45:34.96
You and I by the grace of God
00:45:34.99\00:45:36.94
ought to show our love to Jesus,
00:45:36.97\00:45:38.47
by keeping His commandments,
00:45:38.50\00:45:40.30
including the Lord
's Day, the Sabbath.
00:45:40.33\00:45:45.69
And on now that we
have another person
00:45:45.72\00:45:47.45
by the name of Kendroy
who accepts the fact that
00:45:47.48\00:45:50.44
we keep the seventh day Sabbath,
00:45:50.47\00:45:52.74
but he's asking, how
about the other holy days,
00:45:52.77\00:45:55.45
he says that in
Leviticus 23, it states
00:45:55.48\00:45:57.83
that "the weekly as
well as the annual Sabbaths
00:45:57.86\00:45:59.90
are feasts of the Lord and
then he mentions Pentecost,
00:45:59.93\00:46:03.78
the day of unleavened bread
00:46:03.81\00:46:05.43
in Acts and 1 Corinthians 16,
00:46:05.46\00:46:08.29
one that also be keeping
00:46:08.32\00:46:09.84
the holy feast of
the Old Testament.
00:46:09.87\00:46:11.15
All right, good question,
Kendroy, great question.
00:46:11.18\00:46:14.17
You are not the
first person to ask it.
00:46:14.20\00:46:16.86
In fact there
was the whole church,
00:46:16.89\00:46:18.40
the worldwide church,
took out the Armstrong church,
00:46:18.43\00:46:21.91
you know, they used to
keep all of those feast days.
00:46:21.94\00:46:24.92
I don't think they do now.
00:46:24.95\00:46:29.71
Let me tell you something,
00:46:29.74\00:46:31.22
let me share you
something, it may be better.
00:46:31.25\00:46:33.04
I'm going to turn over
here, to the Book of Hebrews 9
00:46:33.07\00:46:36.39
and if you want
to keep those days,
00:46:36.42\00:46:38.29
that's between you and God,
00:46:38.32\00:46:40.42
but you're certainly
going in the right direction,
00:46:40.45\00:46:43.12
at least you want
to keep God's holy days
00:46:43.15\00:46:46.20
and that's good.
00:46:46.23\00:46:48.74
Hebrews 9:9-10 says,
00:46:48.77\00:46:51.95
"This is an illustration
for the present time
00:46:51.98\00:46:55.55
indicating that the gifts
00:46:55.58\00:46:57.14
and the
sacrifices being offered,
00:46:57.17\00:46:59.89
were not only, were not able
00:46:59.92\00:47:01.93
to clear the
conscience of the worshipper.
00:47:01.96\00:47:06.99
They are only a
matter of food and drink
00:47:07.02\00:47:08.97
and various ceremonial washings.
00:47:09.00\00:47:12.65
External regulations applying
to the time of the new order.''
00:47:12.68\00:47:19.04
Now the Bible
talks about a new order.
00:47:19.07\00:47:21.61
I believe in the
two aspects of the Lord,
00:47:21.64\00:47:24.45
God the moral law
and the ceremonial law.
00:47:24.48\00:47:27.93
I believe in the decal and
this is mainstream theology,
00:47:27.96\00:47:31.87
every church is taught.
00:47:31.90\00:47:33.64
If the churches say
no, it's not what we teach,
00:47:33.67\00:47:36.03
you just have to say
look at your prayer books.
00:47:36.06\00:47:37.96
That's true.
00:47:37.99\00:47:39.02
The ceremonial
aspects of the law of God
00:47:39.05\00:47:41.70
were done away with.
00:47:41.73\00:47:43.30
For instance, circumcision
as a religious right.
00:47:43.33\00:47:48.15
The special Sabbath
days like the Passover
00:47:48.18\00:47:53.83
and the Day of Atonement,
00:47:53.86\00:47:56.40
Feast of First Fruits, Trumpets,
00:47:56.43\00:47:58.86
they pointed the people
to the coming of Christ.
00:47:58.89\00:48:02.94
That's why it says in the Bible,
00:48:02.97\00:48:04.10
Christ Passover
has sacrifice for us.
00:48:04.13\00:48:06.87
To the first coming of Christ.
00:48:06.90\00:48:08.29
Yes, so when Jesus died,
00:48:08.32\00:48:11.15
he died at Passover time. Yeah.
00:48:11.18\00:48:12.97
We know this and he
fulfilled the Passover feast
00:48:13.00\00:48:17.48
and so these
feasts were sign points
00:48:17.51\00:48:21.38
to point the people
to the coming of Christ.
00:48:21.41\00:48:24.27
They pointed forward
00:48:24.30\00:48:27.33
and I believed they
finished at the cross.
00:48:27.36\00:48:30.33
And they were
merged out after the cross.
00:48:30.36\00:48:32.29
But the Sabbath points us
00:48:32.32\00:48:33.82
back to creation of
the seventh day Sabbath.
00:48:33.85\00:48:36.54
Keep the Sabbath
because God made you
00:48:36.57\00:48:40.41
and so the ceremony of
Sabbaths point forward,
00:48:40.44\00:48:43.28
the seventh day Sabbath
points back to creation.
00:48:43.31\00:48:46.49
And I believe that
with the new order,
00:48:46.52\00:48:49.26
the ceremonial
law is done away with.
00:48:49.29\00:48:51.98
And remembering
to that God wrote
00:48:52.01\00:48:53.80
the Ten
Commandments with His hand,
00:48:53.83\00:48:56.17
as opposed to the ceremonial--
00:48:56.20\00:48:57.25
Spoke them with His own mouth,
00:48:57.28\00:48:58.48
He never did that
about the Passover. Exactly.
00:48:58.51\00:49:01.62
We have another
lady called Karen
00:49:01.65\00:49:04.07
who writes and
she knows you well.
00:49:04.10\00:49:06.81
She says dear Pastor
Carter I'm an avid listener
00:49:06.84\00:49:09.97
and a fan of your
straightforward telling truth.
00:49:10.00\00:49:12.94
I don't know where
people get this idea from.
00:49:12.97\00:49:16.29
And she says, I love
my evangelical friends,
00:49:16.32\00:49:19.12
obviously she
tells like it is to,
00:49:19.15\00:49:21.16
but they drive me crazy
with their total obsession
00:49:21.19\00:49:24.74
with the state of Israel
00:49:24.77\00:49:26.47
and their
rebuilding of the temple. Yeah.
00:49:26.50\00:49:29.35
She says, she asks,
00:49:29.38\00:49:30.66
is the nation of
Israel still relevant?
00:49:30.69\00:49:32.89
What part does Israel play
in this time in earth's history?
00:49:32.92\00:49:36.62
Aren't God's
promises unconditional,
00:49:36.65\00:49:39.38
sorry conditional?
00:49:39.41\00:49:40.71
So she is asking aren't
God's promises conditional
00:49:40.74\00:49:43.70
with reference to
the state of Israel?
00:49:43.73\00:49:46.39
Karen is, Karen,
you are very observant
00:49:46.42\00:49:50.22
and what you are
saying is very pertinent
00:49:50.25\00:49:52.53
and relevant. Yes.
00:49:52.56\00:49:53.73
The vast
majority of evangelicals
00:49:57.10\00:49:59.72
look at the Bible as
though Christ did never come
00:49:59.75\00:50:03.25
and that's a shock to them.
00:50:03.28\00:50:05.50
They look upon the
fulfillment of Bible prophecy
00:50:05.53\00:50:08.35
and everything as though
they had never been a cross.
00:50:08.38\00:50:11.86
Now the Bible teaches--
00:50:11.89\00:50:13.95
now I'll read
you what Jesus said
00:50:13.98\00:50:15.76
because it appears a lot of them
00:50:15.79\00:50:17.92
haven't read these texts
but over here in Matthew 21,
00:50:17.95\00:50:24.16
Jesus is talking to the
leaders of the Jewish nation
00:50:24.19\00:50:29.59
and he talks about
how they would reject Him
00:50:29.62\00:50:33.79
and nail Him to the cross.
Now that was the sin of sins.
00:50:33.82\00:50:38.26
Crucifying the Son
of God and then he said.
00:50:38.29\00:50:40.97
"Therefore I tell you,
00:50:41.00\00:50:42.87
that the kingdom of God
will be taken away from you,
00:50:42.90\00:50:49.71
and given to a people
who will produce its fruit."
00:50:49.74\00:50:53.65
They were the
people, the Gentiles
00:50:53.68\00:50:55.63
and believing Jews
who accepted Christ.
00:50:55.66\00:50:59.29
When the Jews as a nation
nailed Christ to the cross,
00:50:59.32\00:51:04.30
they ceased to be
the Israel of God.
00:51:04.33\00:51:09.14
And God had a new
Israel. Who is the new Israel?
00:51:09.17\00:51:12.25
Every person Jew and Gentile
who put his faith in Christ.
00:51:12.28\00:51:16.95
And Romans 9 says it.
00:51:16.98\00:51:19.33
Now, I'm amazed
that evangelicals
00:51:19.36\00:51:21.52
and so many
people don't seem to know
00:51:21.55\00:51:23.82
that these texts
are in the Bible,
00:51:23.85\00:51:26.13
Romans 9: 6-8,
00:51:26.16\00:51:27.55
that's why I urge
people to think for themselves.
00:51:27.58\00:51:30.30
It says, "It is not as
though God's word had failed.
00:51:30.33\00:51:33.84
For not all who are descended
from Israel are Israel.
00:51:33.87\00:51:38.75
Nor because they
are his descendants
00:51:38.78\00:51:40.58
are they all Abraham's children.
00:51:40.61\00:51:42.23
On the contrary,
it is through Isaac
00:51:42.26\00:51:44.19
that your
offspring will be reckoned".
00:51:44.22\00:51:46.54
In other words, it is
not the natural children
00:51:46.57\00:51:48.97
who are God's children,
00:51:49.00\00:51:50.03
but it is the
children of the promise
00:51:50.06\00:51:52.45
who are regarded as
Abraham's offspring.
00:51:52.48\00:51:56.04
If you are a
child of the promise,
00:51:56.07\00:51:58.54
you are an Israelite
and it says in Galatians,
00:51:58.57\00:52:02.35
it is not the male or female
00:52:02.38\00:52:04.09
neither Jew nor Gentile,
but all are one in Christ Jesus.
00:52:04.12\00:52:09.11
And if you belong to Christ,
00:52:09.14\00:52:12.64
these are the
words in Galatians,
00:52:12.67\00:52:14.27
you are Abraham's seed.
00:52:14.30\00:52:16.89
How about the
reference in Revelation to Zion
00:52:16.92\00:52:19.67
or the New Jerusalem,
00:52:19.70\00:52:20.87
it isn't that what
they are looking for.
00:52:20.90\00:52:21.93
It must be interpreted of course
00:52:21.96\00:52:24.73
in a spiritual context. Yes.
00:52:24.76\00:52:27.41
God has an
Israel today absolutely
00:52:27.44\00:52:30.00
but its' not over
there in the Middle East,
00:52:30.03\00:52:31.88
no not at all.
00:52:31.91\00:52:33.39
The Israel today is
made up of Jews and Gentiles,
00:52:33.42\00:52:38.18
black and white every person
who has his true faith in Christ
00:52:38.21\00:52:42.49
and if people
would understand this,
00:52:42.52\00:52:44.61
then they would be less involved
00:52:44.64\00:52:46.43
in the politics of Middle East.
00:52:46.46\00:52:50.63
And more interested
00:52:50.66\00:52:51.91
in the
proclamation of the gospel
00:52:51.94\00:52:54.95
to build the
kingdom of God. Amen.
00:52:54.98\00:52:57.65
I have another
fellow by the name of Hants
00:52:57.68\00:53:00.51
who writes, and this is a
very personal question for him.
00:53:00.54\00:53:04.12
He says, why kneel at the tree
the cross or even look at it,
00:53:04.15\00:53:08.51
why not at the grave
where Jesus rose from the dead?
00:53:08.54\00:53:11.79
Has the wooden cross
become our idol he asked?
00:53:11.82\00:53:15.17
I don't want to
kneel at the foot of a tree
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which is only a
creation from our Creator.
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Hants, good
question, good attitude.
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You are talking I
think about idolatry.
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You go to some countries,
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I was down south
of the border here,
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down Mexico way.
00:53:31.92\00:53:34.56
I went into a
vast cathedral there,
00:53:34.59\00:53:37.81
watched everything,
kneeling before images
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also you find it in so
called protestant countries,
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but particularly
in catholic countries.
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Earnest, good, fine people
00:53:49.81\00:53:52.58
but kneeling down before images,
00:53:52.61\00:53:54.17
maybe that's what
Hants is talking about.
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But the Apostle Paul said
in the cross of Christ I glory.
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The hymn writer wrote
in the cross of Christ
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I glory towering
all the wrecks of time.
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But we are not to kneel at
the foot of a literal cross,
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we have to kneel at the
foot of the spiritual Christ.
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Some people just worship
the nails and the splinters
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but we need to worship
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the living
Christ who died for us.
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And we need to have a
personal experience with Christ.
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Good question.
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Now, I want to fit this one
in, we don't have a lot of time,
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it's from Denise, he says
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I'm a grandpa to a sweet girl,
00:54:33.56\00:54:36.36
Me too, me too.
But unlike yours.
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Who asked me recently why
we say by scripture alone.
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Why do we say Sola
scriptura, what does that mean?
00:54:44.75\00:54:47.31
Sola Scripture means
that our faith is based
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not upon the
teachings of the church.
00:54:49.71\00:54:52.35
Our faith is not based
upon a conference. Yes.
00:54:52.38\00:54:55.46
Our faith is not based upon a
hierarchy or in establishment.
00:54:55.49\00:54:59.82
It's not based upon the papacy,
00:54:59.85\00:55:01.76
it's not based upon
any earthly organization
00:55:01.79\00:55:06.02
it is based upon the
Word of God, this is it. Yes.
00:55:06.05\00:55:09.26
Now the Protestants had a
great saying we have it too.
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Sola scriptures only Christ,
00:55:12.27\00:55:13.98
Sola scripture, Sola
scriptura only the Bible,
00:55:14.01\00:55:18.06
Sola gratia only
grace, Sola fide only faith.
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Now, too often you
go into churches though
00:55:22.66\00:55:24.75
and they say this but
they don't practice it.
00:55:24.78\00:55:27.01
They quote every other author
00:55:27.04\00:55:28.98
and they have other authorities
00:55:29.01\00:55:31.33
rather than the
authority of the Bible.
00:55:31.36\00:55:33.73
When we have
theological discussions,
00:55:33.76\00:55:35.95
we should be
quoting scripture alone
00:55:35.98\00:55:38.88
because this is
a source of truth,
00:55:38.91\00:55:41.46
I belong to a church that says
00:55:41.49\00:55:43.71
in its doctrinal
statement the Bible
00:55:43.74\00:55:47.97
and the Bible
alone is the word--
00:55:48.00\00:55:51.15
is our word of
faith and practice.
00:55:51.18\00:55:54.29
I stand by that
00:55:54.32\00:55:55.98
and I would
encourage every person
00:55:56.01\00:55:57.93
not to build upon sinking sand
00:55:57.96\00:56:01.12
but to build
upon the living word
00:56:01.15\00:56:03.08
of the living
God, so help us God.
00:56:03.11\00:56:04.25
So, grandpa, let's
keep teaching the young girl
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to be open and heard
all of it. Absolutely.
00:56:06.68\00:56:08.51
Not, just believe
what others have to say
00:56:08.54\00:56:10.09
but opening the scriptures.
00:56:10.12\00:56:11.68
Pastor Carter, we thank you
for being on the program today.
00:56:11.71\00:56:14.33
It's a pleasure to be
able to interview you.
00:56:14.36\00:56:16.61
Oh, pleasure to talk to you.
00:56:16.64\00:56:17.93
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