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>> FROM ARCADIA,
CALIFORNIA, "THE CARTER REPORT"
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PRESENTS THE LIVING
WORD AROUND THE WORLD.
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>> HELLO, I'M DAVE DENO
AND THIS IS "THE CARTER REPORT"
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WITH PASTOR JOHN CARTER.
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TODAY OUR TOPIC IS
"SEEING THE HAND OF GOD,"
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THE STORY OF THE MOST
EXCITING EVENTS AND HAPPENINGS
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IN YOUR LIFE,
DANGERS, OPPOSITIONS, THREATS,
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AND TRIUMPHS.
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THIS IS GONNA BE AN EXCITING
PROGRAM, LOOKING NOT ONLY
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INTO THE PAST, BUT
ALSO INTO THE FUTURE.
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STAY WITH US.
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>> HELLO, I'M DAVE
DENO FOR JOHN CARTER
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AND "THE CARTER
REPORT," HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU
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TO BE A PART OF THIS MINISTRY,
TO BE A PARTNER IN THIS
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MINISTRY, TO KNOW
THE JOY OF GIVING.
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GOD'S WORD TELLS US THAT IT
IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO
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RECEIVE AND I BELIEVE THAT
IT IS MORE JOYFUL TO GIVE THAN
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TO RECEIVE.
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BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU WILL
KNOW THIS IS TO DO IT YOURSELF,
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TO COME AND JOIN US IN THIS
WONDERFUL MINISTRY OF BRINGING
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THE GOSPEL TO HUNDREDS,
THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS,
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HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
IN AREAS AROUND THE WORLD THAT
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PERHAPS YOU AND I MAY
NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO TRAVEL TO.
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THIS IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN
SUPPORT THE PREACHING OF THE
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GOSPEL, THAT YOU CAN
SUPPORT NEW LIVES IN CHRIST.
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NOW WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR
YOUR PARTICIPATION AND WE WANT
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TO SHOW YOU THAT APPRECIATION
BY SENDING SOMETHING BACK
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TO YOU TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT.
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ONE WOULD BE A
TERRIFIC BOOK THAT IS WRITTEN
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BY JOHN CARTER CALLED
"THE FATE OF THE HEATHEN."
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NOW THIS IS A GREAT BOOK, NOT
ONLY FOR YOU TO READ, BUT ALSO
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TO SHARE WITH FAMILY
MEMBERS AND WITH FRIENDS.
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IT'S VERY DIRECT,
VERY TO THE POINT.
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AND THEN ANOTHER BOOK THAT
JOHN'S A LITTLE SHY ABOUT IS
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THE HISTORY OF JOHN
CARTER AND "THE CARTER REPORT."
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YOU CAN SEND YOUR GIFT
TO THE CARTER REPORT AT
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P.O. BOX 1900, THOUSAND
OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 91358.
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IN AUSTRALIA, YOU CAN SEND
IT TO TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES,
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AND THE BOX IS ON THE SCREEN.
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I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE
A PART OF THIS MINISTRY.
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WRITE TO US AGAIN
AT THE CARTER REPORT,
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BOX 1900, THOUSAND
OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 91358.
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AND IN AUSTRALIA, AT
TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES.
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AGAIN, THE BOX
NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN.
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THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING A PART OF THIS MINISTRY.
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>> PASTOR CARTER, IT IS SO GOOD
TO JUST SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND
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TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LORD HAS IN
STORE FOR YOU AND THE MINISTRY
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OF "THE CARTER REPORT" AND
TO LOOK BACK AND SEE GOD'S HAND
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UPON THIS MINISTRY AND,
INDEED, IN THE LIVES OF SO MANY.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SITTING DOWN WITH US.
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>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
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>> I STATED THAT WE'RE GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT SEEING GOD'S
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HAND AND WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING
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EVENTS AND
HAPPENINGS IN YOUR LIFE.
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AND SOME OF THOSE ARE
GREAT EVENTS, JOYFUL EVENTS.
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SOME OF THEM INVOLVE
SOME THREATS AND SOME DANGERS
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IN YOUR LIFE.
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BUT I WANT TO LOOK AHEAD
FOR JUST A MOMENT BEFORE WE LOOK
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BACK, AND THAT IS YOU HAVE
A SERIES OF MEETINGS COMING UP
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IN SOUTH AFRICA.
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TELL US ABOUT THAT.
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THAT'S GOT TO BE
VERY EXCITING FOR YOU.
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>> DAVE, I'M GLAD
YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
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WE'RE GOING BY THE GRACE OF GOD
VERY SHORTLY TO THE GREAT CITY
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OF JOHANNESBURG, OR AS
WE CALL IT NOW, JOBURG.
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IT'S A BIG CITY, MULTICULTURAL.
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SOME MONTHS AGO, WE GOT AN S-O-S
FROM SOME BELIEVERS OVER THERE.
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BUNCH OF PEOPLE GOT
TOGETHER, WORKING HARD.
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THEY INVITED US TO COME.
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THEY'D SEEN US ON TELEVISION
AND SO THEY, WITH US, HAVE
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HIRED A MAGNIFICENT AUDITORIUM,
BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL THEATER.
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IN FACT, THE GAITHERS
WERE THERE NOT VERY LONG AGO.
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IT'S A PLACE WHERE THEY
HAVE NOT "AMERICAN IDOL," BUT,
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COULD YOU BELIEVE IT, THEY HAVE
"AFRICAN IDOL" IN THIS PLACE.
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BUT WE, WE'VE HIRED THIS PLACE
FOR THE BEST PART OF A MONTH
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AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
THE MEETINGS THERE AND THEY ARE
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GOING TO BE TELEVISED EVERY
NIGHT AND TAKEN RIGHT ACROSS
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SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH IS A LAND
OF SOME 49-50 MILLION PEOPLE.
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AND THEN THEY'RE GOING
TO BE TELECAST TO HUNDREDS
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OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
RIGHT ACROSS THE VAST CONTINENT
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OF AFRICA ITSELF.
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>> I HOPE THAT OUR VIEWERS CAN
SEE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF
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THE FLIERS THAT IS BEING
GIVEN OUT IN SOUTH AFRICA IN
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PREPARATION FOR
YOUR MEETINGS THERE.
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AND AS I LOOK AT THIS, IF
YOU WERE HOLDING THESE MEETINGS
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HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
I WOULD BE ON THE DOORSTEP
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OF WHEREVER YOU'RE HOLDING
THE MEETINGS BECAUSE THIS IS
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AN AMAZING TOPIC.
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>> WELL, IT'S
DIFFERENT, ISN'T IT?
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>> IT IS.
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YOU'VE GOT A PICTURE OF
THE MASK OF TUTANKHAMEN.
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THE TOPIC IS
"AMAZING DISCOVERIES
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OF LOST CITIES OF THE DEAD."
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SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT I
KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO COVER,
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"WONDER CITIES OF THE
PAST," "THE JEW, THE ARAB,
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AND JERUSALEM,"
"VISITORS FROM OTHER WORLDS."
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>> YEAH, A PROGRAM ON ASTRONOMY.
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>> AND "THE GREATEST
ARCHAEOLOGICAL DISCOVERY
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OF ALL TIME."
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WHAT IS THAT?
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CAN YOU GIVE US A HINT?
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>> OH, YOU OUGHT TO COME, BUT
OH NO, I WON'T BE SO DIFFICULT.
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THAT'S TALKING ABOUT
THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS.
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YEAH.
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>> WELL, LET'S GO
BACK FOR A MOMENT.
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LET'S GO BACK TO
SOME OF THE EARLY YEARS
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OF "THE CARTER REPORT" AND
SOME OF THE EARLY MEETINGS.
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AND I WANT TO START OUT
WITH THE CITY OF KIEV BECAUSE
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THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING
STORY THAT I AM TOLD ABOUT THE
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POWERFUL PRELATE WHO SWORE
THAT "THE CARTER REPORT" WOULD
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NEVER, EVER COME TO KIEV.
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>> YEAH.
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THIS IS QUITE AN AMAZING STORY.
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I SAW THE HAND
OF GOD THERE, DAVE.
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THIS IS GOING BACK A NUMBER
OF YEARS AGO, BACK TO THE DAYS
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JUST AFTER THE FALL OF
THE COMMUNISTS IN THAT PART
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OF THE WORLD.
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WE WERE INVITED THERE AND
WE HIRED THIS HUGE AUDITORIUM
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DOWNTOWN.
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SEATS ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE.
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AND WE HIRED IT FOR ABOUT A
MONTH, EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK.
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AND THIS POWERFUL CHURCH
LEADER, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL
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HIM A PRELATE.
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ONLY A RELATIVELY YOUNG
MAN IN ROBUST HEALTH, STRONG.
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HE MADE THE STATEMENT, HE SAID,
"THE CARTER REPORT TEAM WILL
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COME TO KIEV AND
PREACH OVER MY DEAD BODY."
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>> THAT'S A
DANGEROUS PREDICTION.
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>> WELL, I WOULDN'T
SAY THINGS LIKE THAT.
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HE SAID, "THEY WILL
COME OVER MY DEAD BODY."
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NOW THE BELIEVERS WHO WERE
SUPPORTING US SAID, "WE'VE GOT
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A PROBLEM BECAUSE THIS
MAN'S GOT TREMENDOUS POWER AND
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AUTHORITY, AND THE GOVERNMENT
OF KIEV WON'T DO ANYTHING
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WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION,"
BECAUSE HE REPRESENTED
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THE STATE CHURCH,
MILLIONS OF THEIR BELIEVERS.
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BUT 10 DAYS BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN
STARTED, WHAT HE HAD PROPHESIED
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IN A THREAT CAME TO
PASS AND HE DROPPED DEAD.
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IT CAUSED SHOCK WAVES
THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
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HIS BELIEVERS, HIS FOLLOWERS
TRIED TO BURY HIM INSIDE THE
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GREAT STATE CATHEDRAL,
BUT THE GOVERNMENT SAID, "NO,
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WE DON'T THINK HE
OUGHT TO BE BURIED ANYWHERE.
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IN A STATE
CATHEDRAL, THE LAST PLACE."
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THEY SAID, "IF YOU WANT TO BURY
THIS MAN, THEN YOU CAN BURY HIM
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ON THE FOOTPATH, THE SIDEWALK."
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AND THE PRIESTS OF THAT
ORGANIZATION CAME OUT AND THEY
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BATTLED THE KIEV MILITIA.
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THEY CAME OUT WITH CROSSES THAT
THEY USED AS CLUBS, STRIKING AT
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THE POLICEMEN AND THE
POLICEMEN SHOT THEM DOWN.
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AND BLOOD RAN IN THE STREETS
OF KIEV JUST BEFORE WE STARTED.
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HE WAS NOT BURIED
INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL, BUT
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AS THE GOVERNMENT SAID, HE
WAS BURIED ON THE FOOTPATH,
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ON THE SIDEWALK.
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AND IF YOU GO THERE TODAY, YOU
CAN SEE HIS COFFIN, COVERED IN
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CONCRETE, AND A PICTURE
OF THE PRELATE WHO SAID,
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"THE GOSPEL IS NOT
GONNA BE PREACHED HERE."
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HE'S LYING ON THE SIDEWALK.
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TO ME, IT WAS AN INDICATION
THAT GOD IS GREATER THAN MAN.
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AND EVEN THOUGH THIS VAST
RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION HAD
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SAID, "THE MESSAGE OF GOD IS
NOT GOING TO BE PREACHED," GOD
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SAID, "NO, IT IS GOING TO
BE PREACHED, EVEN IF I'VE GOT
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TO TAKE YOU ASIDE IN DEATH."
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I SAW THE HAND OF GOD THERE.
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>> WHAT ABOUT HIS SUCCESSOR?
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>> THAT WAS AN
INTERESTING STORY BECAUSE ONCE
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THE MEETINGS STARTED,
WE HAD TREMENDOUS CROWDS.
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I CAME DOWN ABOUT 2 HOURS
BEFORE THE MEETING WAS DUE
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TO START.
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I COULDN'T GET
IN THE SAME STREET.
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A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE
WERE OUTSIDE AND THE AUDITORIUM
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WAS PACKED INSIDE.
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>> ONE HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE OUTSIDE--
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>> YEAH, 100,000 TURNED AWAY.
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THE GOVERNMENT CALLED A
STATE OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY,
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HALLELUJAH, AND CLOSED--THEY
WANTED TO CLOSE DOWN THE
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MEETINGS, BUT THEY
CLOSED DOWN THE RAILWAY SYSTEM.
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THEY SAID, "WE'RE NOT
GOING TO RUN THE TRAINS.
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WE'LL STOP THE MEETINGS BECAUSE
FOLKS WON'T BE ABLE TO COME."
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BUT THE MEETINGS
STARTED WITH--WHAT SHOULD I SAY?
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WITH GREAT CONTROVERSY.
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SOME PEOPLE TRYING TO STOP
THE MEETINGS, BUT THOUSANDS
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OF PEOPLE IN THE MEETINGS.
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A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE
OUTSIDE BEGGING TO GET INSIDE,
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THEY BROKE DOWN ALL THE
DOORS OF THIS GREAT BUILDING,
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DESTROYED THE
BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE.
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AND AFTER THE MEETINGS HAD
BEEN GOING FOR A FEW WEEKS, THE
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SUCCESSOR OF THIS MIGHTY AND
POWERFUL PRELATE, WHO WAS NOW
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BURIED ON THE
FOOTPATH, SEND ME A MESSAGE.
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HE SAID, "WOULD YOU BE
KIND ENOUGH TO COME AND SEE ME
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AT MY PALACE?"
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I WENT TO SEE HIM AT HIS
PALACE WITH SOME OF MY FRIENDS
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AND SUPPORTERS.
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HE PUT HIS ARMS AROUND ME
AND KISSED ME ON BOTH CHEEKS AND
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HE SAID, "IN THE NAME
OF GOD, I WELCOME YOU."
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I GUESS HE DIDN'T WANT
TO END UP ON THE FOOTPATH.
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I DON'T KNOW.
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BUT GOD IS GREAT AND GOD IS
POWERFUL AND GOD CAN TURN BACK
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THE FORCES OF DARKNESS.
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>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
OPPOSITION BEFORE THE MEETINGS.
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DID YOU RUN INTO
ANY DURING THE MEETINGS?
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>> YES.
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I'VE OFTEN HAD OPPOSITION TO
MY MEETINGS FROM BELIEVERS AND
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NON-BELIEVERS, FROM PRELATES
AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T CALL
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THEMSELVES PRELATES, BUT
THEY HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE.
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AND AFTER THE MEETINGS HAD BEEN
GOING FOR JUST A FEW WEEKS--NO,
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A FEW DAYS, THE
CROWDS INTENSIFIED.
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WE WERE RUNNING TWO SESSIONS
A DAY AND THE PLACE WAS PACKED
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TO THE DOORS AND PEOPLE TRYING
TO GET IN FROM OUTSIDE, PEOPLE
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STANDING AROUND THE WALLS.
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AND THEN I RECEIVED A SUMMONS
FROM THE STATE OFFICIALS,
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DOWNTOWN KIEV.
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IT WAS THE MINISTER OF RELIGION.
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AND I WENT DOWN THERE WITH
SOME OF MY FRIENDS, WITH MY
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TRANSLATOR.
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IN FACT, MY FRIENDS WERE
NOT ALLOWED TO ACCOMPANY ME.
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I HAD TO GO IN BY MYSELF,
ALONE, BUT GOD WAS WITH ME,
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AND A TRANSLATOR.
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AND THE STATE MINISTER
OF RELIGION--NOT A RELIGIOUS
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PERSON.
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HE WAS AN
ATHEIST, AN OLD COMMUNIST.
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HE SAID TO ME,
"CLOSE DOWN THE MEETINGS."
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NOW THESE GUYS ARE USED TO
MINISTER SAYING, "YES, SIR."
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>> YOU KNOW, THIS HAS A
FAMILIAR RING FROM A CERTAIN
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SECTION OF THE BOOK OF ACTS.
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>> YES, I KNOW.
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HE SAID, "CLOSE
DOWN THE MEETINGS."
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I SAID, "NO."
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WELL, THAT WAS SORT
OF SOMETHING HE'D NEVER
00:11:57.33\00:11:59.50
HEARD BEFORE.
00:11:59.50\00:12:00.56
THEY'D NEVER HEARD
THE WORD NO BEFORE.
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EVERYBODY HAD ALWAYS SAID YES.
00:12:02.56\00:12:03.90
SO I TAUGHT HIM A NEW WORD.
00:12:03.90\00:12:05.20
I SAID, "NO."
00:12:05.20\00:12:06.50
HE SAID, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN, NO?"
00:12:06.50\00:12:08.43
I SAID, "JUST WHAT I SAY, NO.
00:12:08.43\00:12:11.23
IT'S BETTER TO OBEY
GOD THAN IT IS TO OBEY MEN.
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NO.
00:12:14.16\00:12:15.16
THE ANSWER IS NO.
00:12:15.16\00:12:16.10
WHAT DON'T YOU
UNDERSTAND ABOUT NO?"
00:12:16.10\00:12:18.20
HE SAID, "WELL, WE
WILL WITHDRAW OUR PROTECTION
00:12:18.20\00:12:22.13
AND YOU WON'T BE SAFE.
00:12:22.13\00:12:24.46
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU?
00:12:24.46\00:12:26.10
PEOPLE MAY WANT
TO TAKE YOU OUT."
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I SAID, "GOD IS GREAT.
00:12:28.36\00:12:30.56
GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF ME."
00:12:30.56\00:12:33.03
"WELL, WE
MAY--WHAT ABOUT PRISON?"
00:12:33.03\00:12:35.86
I SAID, "IF YOU PUT ME IN
PRISON, THEN GOD WILL TAKE CARE
00:12:35.86\00:12:40.46
OF ME.
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BUT WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU?
00:12:41.70\00:12:44.00
WE WILL NOT CLOSE DOWN
THE MEETINGS BECAUSE GOD
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HAS CALLED US HERE.
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AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, WE
ARE GOING TO FINISH OUR COURSE."
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AND THEN I LEFT AND THE LEADERS
OF MY CHURCH IN KIEV WERE
00:12:53.26\00:12:59.20
WAITING OUTSIDE.
00:12:59.20\00:13:01.03
AND WHEN THEY SAW ME,
THEY SAID, "WHAT DID YOU SAY?"
00:13:01.03\00:13:03.83
"I SAID NYET, NO."
00:13:03.83\00:13:06.33
THEY SAID, "THANK GOD.
00:13:06.33\00:13:07.63
WE THOUGHT, BECAUSE YOU CAME
FROM THE WEST, YOU MIGHT HAVE
00:13:07.63\00:13:10.93
GIVEN IN AND YOU
MIGHT HAVE SURRENDERED.
00:13:10.93\00:13:13.76
WE WERE AFRAID THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE GONE WEAK AND RUN AWAY."
00:13:13.76\00:13:18.73
>> BUT YOU WERE FACING A VERY
POWERFUL GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL.
00:13:18.73\00:13:22.20
>> YES, I WAS.
00:13:22.20\00:13:23.30
>> ANY CONCERN?
00:13:23.30\00:13:24.63
ANY FEAR THERE?
00:13:24.63\00:13:27.43
>> I SAY THIS,
DAVE, TO THE GLORY OF GOD.
00:13:27.43\00:13:30.43
I FELT NO FEAR.
00:13:30.43\00:13:34.33
I FELT THE PRESENCE OF GOD.
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I BELIEVE THAT I WAS
STANDING ON HOLY GROUND.
00:13:36.76\00:13:40.40
I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE
IMMORTAL UNTIL OUR WORK ON EARTH
00:13:40.40\00:13:43.26
IS DONE.
00:13:43.26\00:13:45.30
I BELIEVE THAT NOBODY COULD
TOUCH ME WHILE GOD WAS WITH ME.
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AND THEN THEY SAID, "YOU CANNOT
HAVE MEETINGS UNLESS THE POLICE
00:13:49.76\00:13:53.70
ARE THERE TO GUARD THE MEETINGS.
00:13:53.70\00:13:56.46
AND WE CONTROL THE POLICE AND
IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR YOU
00:13:56.46\00:13:59.46
TO HAVE MEETINGS IF
THE POLICE ARE NOT THERE."
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THEY DISMISSED ALL THE POLICE.
00:14:02.50\00:14:05.33
AND SOME OF MY FRIENDS,
UKRAINIANS, WENT OUT INTO
00:14:05.33\00:14:07.60
THE STREETS AND IN THE TOWNS
AROUND KIEV, AND THEY FOUND
00:14:07.60\00:14:11.03
A POLICEMAN WHO WAS A COLONEL
AND THEY TOLD HIM THE STORY.
00:14:11.03\00:14:16.36
AND THE MAN SAID, "WE
NEED THIS MAN TO BE HERE.
00:14:16.36\00:14:19.23
WE NEED JOHN CARTER TO BE
PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD.
00:14:19.23\00:14:21.46
I'M GOING TO BRING ALL OF MY
POLICEMEN FROM OUTSIDE KIEV."
00:14:21.46\00:14:24.90
SO THEY CAME AND THEY PATROLLED
THE MEETINGS AND THE GOVERNMENT
00:14:24.90\00:14:28.96
COULDN'T CLOSE US DOWN.
00:14:28.96\00:14:31.70
BUT EVERY DAY, WE GOT
A SUMMONS FROM TOWN HALL.
00:14:31.70\00:14:34.03
"CLOSE DOWN THE MEETINGS."
00:14:34.03\00:14:35.70
AND EACH DAY, WE
SENT THEM BACK A MESSAGE.
00:14:35.70\00:14:38.00
IT WASN'T VERY LONG.
00:14:38.00\00:14:39.36
"NO."
00:14:39.36\00:14:40.90
>> JOHN, HOW MANY PEOPLE?
00:14:40.90\00:14:43.40
ALL--AFTER ALL OF THE, "CLOSE
DOWN THE MEETINGS," AFTER ALL
00:14:43.40\00:14:46.36
THE TIMES OF YOU SAYING
NO, HOLDING ALL THESE MEETINGS,
00:14:46.36\00:14:50.26
HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU
ESTIMATE HEARD THE GOSPEL,
00:14:50.26\00:14:54.26
THE GOOD NEWS?
00:14:54.26\00:14:55.43
>> OH, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS
AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
00:14:55.43\00:15:00.40
WE WOULD HAVE TENS OF
THOUSANDS IN ALTAR CALLS.
00:15:00.40\00:15:05.23
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHURCHY
PEOPLE OR RELIGIOUS PEOPLE
00:15:05.23\00:15:09.26
OR PIOUS PEOPLE.
00:15:09.26\00:15:10.46
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
COMMUNISTS AND ATHEISTS.
00:15:10.46\00:15:13.60
THEY WERE EVEN
BRINGING BUSLOADS FROM THE AREA
00:15:13.60\00:15:16.13
OF CHERNOBYL.
00:15:16.13\00:15:19.23
THE PASTOR OF A
CHURCH THERE BROUGHT PEOPLE.
00:15:19.23\00:15:21.80
THEY TOLD HIM, "YOU OUGHT
TO GET OUT OF CHERNOBYL BECAUSE
00:15:21.80\00:15:24.36
IT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU SICK."
00:15:24.36\00:15:25.63
HE SAID, "AND
FORSAKE THESE PEOPLE?
00:15:25.63\00:15:27.90
I WILL NEVER
FORSAKE THESE PEOPLE."
00:15:27.90\00:15:29.93
THAT'S COURAGE.
00:15:29.93\00:15:30.96
HOW COULD WE FORSAKE THESE
PEOPLE WHEN THESE PEOPLE WERE
00:15:30.96\00:15:33.23
SHOWING SUCH COURAGE?
00:15:33.23\00:15:37.83
THEN THEY WENT TO THE
DIRECTOR OF THE PALACE THAT WE
00:15:37.83\00:15:40.70
WERE USING.
00:15:40.70\00:15:42.86
AND THE GOVERNMENT SAID TO
THE DIRECTOR, AN OLD COMMUNIST,
00:15:42.86\00:15:45.86
"WE GIVE YOU AN ULTIMATUM."
00:15:45.86\00:15:47.50
THAT'S WHAT ALL
COMMUNISTS ARE GOOD AT DOING,
00:15:47.50\00:15:49.80
GIVING ULTIMATUMS.
00:15:49.80\00:15:51.06
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THEY'VE
NEVER HEARD OF THE WORD NO.
00:15:51.06\00:15:53.16
AND SO THEY GAVE
HIM AN ULTIMATUM.
00:15:53.16\00:15:55.70
THEY SAID, "KICK CARTER OUT
AND CLOSE DOWN THE MEETINGS."
00:15:55.70\00:15:59.96
AND HE SAID TO THEM, "NO."
00:15:59.96\00:16:03.20
THEY SAID, "WHAT?"
00:16:03.20\00:16:05.03
HE SAID, "NO,
THESE PEOPLE ARE NEEDED.
00:16:05.03\00:16:10.63
THESE PEOPLE HAVE
A CONTRACT WITH US.
00:16:10.63\00:16:13.26
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT
BREAKING THE LAW, BUT YOU ARE.
00:16:13.26\00:16:16.26
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE BREAKING THE LAW.
00:16:16.26\00:16:18.63
WE WILL NOT CLOSE
DOWN THE MEETINGS.
00:16:18.63\00:16:21.70
AND THEN, ON THE FINAL SABBATH,
WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BIG
00:16:21.70\00:16:26.26
BAPTISM AND THE GOVERNMENT
SAID, "WELL, ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN
00:16:26.26\00:16:30.40
HAVE A BAPTISM," LIKE PHARAOH.
00:16:30.40\00:16:33.13
THEY SAID, "BUT YOU CAN
ONLY BAPTIZE 100 PEOPLE."
00:16:33.13\00:16:36.76
WE SAID, "THANK YOU.
00:16:36.76\00:16:38.26
WE WILL BAPTIZE 100 PEOPLE
AND WE WILL KEEP BAPTIZING."
00:16:38.26\00:16:43.56
THEY SAID, "YOU MUST
DO WHAT WE TELL YOU."
00:16:43.56\00:16:45.66
WE SAID, "NO, IT'S
BETTER TO OBEY GOD THAN MEN."
00:16:45.66\00:16:51.06
AND THEN THEY SAID, "WE
FORBID ANYBODY TO BRING BUSSES."
00:16:51.06\00:16:55.46
AND SO THEY STOPPED THE
BUS PEOPLE FROM KIEV COMING
00:16:55.46\00:16:58.26
WITH THEIR BUSSES.
00:16:58.26\00:17:00.16
BUT MY FRIENDS WENT OUT
TO THE OUTLYING DISTRICTS,
00:17:00.16\00:17:02.80
TOWNS 100 MILES
AWAY, AND HIRED BUSSES.
00:17:02.80\00:17:07.03
AND THAT SABBATH, WE TOOK
TO THE RIVER DNIEPER, THE GREAT
00:17:07.03\00:17:11.50
RIVER DNIEPER, THOUSANDS
AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FOR
00:17:11.50\00:17:15.43
THE BIGGEST BAPTISM INTO
CHRIST IN THE HISTORY OF UKRAINE
00:17:15.43\00:17:21.26
FOR 1000 YEARS.
00:17:21.26\00:17:25.13
SO I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW
THAT GOD IS GREAT AND GOD IS
00:17:25.13\00:17:27.73
POWERFUL AND WE SHOULD
SAY NO TO EVIL MEN AND WOMEN.
00:17:27.73\00:17:32.63
AND WE SHOULD SAY YES TO
GOD BECAUSE WE DO NOT SERVE MEN.
00:17:32.63\00:17:37.23
WE SERVE THE LIVING CHRIST.
00:17:37.23\00:17:39.30
>> JOHN, AS YOU TALK ABOUT
THAT, IT'S NOT ONLY A LESSON IN
00:17:39.30\00:17:43.06
THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE
WORLD THAT YOU HAVE GONE TO.
00:17:43.06\00:17:47.86
IT'S A LESSON FOR US IN OUR
OWN LIVES, IN OUR OWN PERSONAL
00:17:47.86\00:17:50.73
FAITH AS WELL.
00:17:50.73\00:17:51.76
>> OF COURSE.
00:17:51.76\00:17:53.53
IT'S A LESSON FOR ME.
00:17:53.53\00:17:57.33
THE BIBLE SAYS, "YOU
SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD.
00:17:57.33\00:18:00.50
HIM ONLY SHALL YOU SERVE.
00:18:00.50\00:18:03.63
YOU SHALL HAVE NO
OTHER GODS BEFORE ME."
00:18:03.63\00:18:06.43
UNLESS CHRIST IS LORD OF
ALL, HE'S NOT LORD AT ALL.
00:18:06.43\00:18:12.06
AND THEREFORE, NO, WE KNOW WHAT
IT IS TO FACE OPPOSITION, BUT
00:18:12.06\00:18:16.00
WE ALSO KNOW WHAT IT IS TO HAVE
THE POWER OF CHRIST WITH US.
00:18:16.00\00:18:19.76
>> YOU'RE WATCHING
"THE CARTER REPORT."
00:18:19.76\00:18:21.46
I'M DAVE DENO AND WE'RE
TALKING WITH PASTOR JOHN CARTER.
00:18:21.46\00:18:24.16
AND ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND
SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT MOST
00:18:24.16\00:18:27.60
FASCINATES ME IS THE
SERIES OF MEETINGS YOU HELD
00:18:27.60\00:18:30.76
IN THE SOVIET UNION.
00:18:30.76\00:18:31.96
YOU HELD THE FIRST EVANGELISTIC
MEETINGS IN THE SOVIET UNION?
00:18:31.96\00:18:36.36
>> SO I'M TOLD.
00:18:36.36\00:18:38.30
>> HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT?
00:18:38.30\00:18:41.90
>> BECAUSE ON THAT
OCCASION I DIDN'T SAY NO.
00:18:41.90\00:18:44.40
[LAUGHING] >>
IT WAS IN '91, WHEN
00:18:44.40\00:18:50.00
GORBACHEV WAS STILL IN POWER,
THAT I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL
00:18:50.00\00:18:54.76
FROM A FRIEND
IN WASHINGTON D.C.,
00:18:54.76\00:18:57.83
AND HE SAID, "HOW WOULD
YOU LIKE TO GO TO MOSCOW
00:18:57.83\00:19:01.40
AND TRY OUT THE WATERS?
00:19:01.40\00:19:02.63
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN AND THEREFORE WE WOULD
00:19:02.63\00:19:05.66
LIKE YOU TO GO BECAUSE WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
00:19:05.66\00:19:09.70
AND IF YOU WILL GO
AND TRY OUT THE WATERS--"
00:19:09.70\00:19:12.96
I SAID, "YES, ABSOLUTELY.
00:19:12.96\00:19:15.13
YES."
00:19:15.13\00:19:16.26
>> AMAZING.
00:19:16.26\00:19:17.30
>> "IF GOD HELPS ME, I WILL GO."
00:19:17.30\00:19:19.36
AND GOD HELPED US
TO RAISE THE BUDGET.
00:19:19.36\00:19:22.20
3ABN HELPED ME TO RAISE
THE BUDGET WHEN NOBODY ELSE
00:19:22.20\00:19:24.93
WOULD HELP.
00:19:24.93\00:19:26.30
3ABN HELPED ME RAISE THE BUDGET.
00:19:26.30\00:19:28.76
>> PEOPLE.
00:19:28.76\00:19:29.73
PEOPLE SENT IN SUPPORT.
00:19:29.73\00:19:30.96
>> YES, YES THEY DID.
00:19:30.96\00:19:32.03
>> TO HELP YOU GO.
00:19:32.03\00:19:33.16
>> THIS IS HOW
THE CAMPAIGNS ARE RUN.
00:19:33.16\00:19:35.23
WE DON'T HAVE A CHURCH
ORGANIZATION THAT'S STANDING
00:19:35.23\00:19:37.30
BEHIND US TO GIVE US MONEY.
00:19:37.30\00:19:39.40
THE PEOPLE OF GOD,
THAT IS THE CHURCH.
00:19:39.40\00:19:42.93
SOME PEOPLE THINK THE CHURCH IS
A HIERARCHY OR IT'S A BUILDING.
00:19:42.93\00:19:47.06
THE CHURCH IS MADE
UP OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:19:47.06\00:19:50.23
WE WENT TO MOSCOW IN '91.
00:19:50.23\00:19:52.66
WE HELD A MEETING IN A
BEAUTIFUL THEATER JUST A
00:19:52.66\00:19:56.13
STONE'S THROW FROM THE KREMLIN.
00:19:56.13\00:19:59.53
THE MEETINGS WOULD START AT
10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND
00:19:59.53\00:20:02.30
FINISH AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
00:20:02.30\00:20:04.83
YOU HEAR THAT, DAVE?
00:20:04.83\00:20:06.13
THEY EXPECTED ME TO PREACH FOR
12 HOURS BECAUSE THEY GAVE ME
00:20:06.13\00:20:10.43
AN HOUR OFF IN
SHIFTS DURING THE DAY.
00:20:10.43\00:20:13.23
THEY GAVE ME SOME BREAD
AND WATER AND GET ME GOING SO I
00:20:13.23\00:20:16.10
COULD KEEP ON PREACHING,
BUT THE HUNGER OF THE PEOPLE
00:20:16.10\00:20:18.53
WAS SO GREAT.
00:20:18.53\00:20:20.90
THE PLACE WAS FILLED AT 10 IN
THE MORNING AND I WOULD PREACH
00:20:20.90\00:20:23.60
RIGHT THROUGH.
00:20:23.60\00:20:24.63
AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME
OUT THE DOORS UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK
00:20:24.63\00:20:26.83
AT NIGHT.
00:20:26.83\00:20:27.93
I SAW THE GLORY OF GOD.
00:20:27.93\00:20:29.20
I SAW THE POWER OF GOD.
00:20:29.20\00:20:30.73
>> JOHN, WHEN YOU WERE THERE,
YOU BOOKED THE FAMOUS HALL OF
00:20:30.73\00:20:33.66
CONGRESSES AT THE
KREMLIN IN MOSCOW.
00:20:33.66\00:20:37.13
BUT YOU DIDN'T GO.
00:20:37.13\00:20:38.16
WHY NOT?
00:20:38.16\00:20:39.26
>> OH, ONCE AGAIN--I SAID
WHEN YOU INTERVIEWED ME BEFORE,
00:20:39.26\00:20:44.53
"THERE'S SOME THINGS
THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER
00:20:44.53\00:20:47.06
THAT I DON'T TALK ABOUT."
00:20:47.06\00:20:49.63
BUT WE HIRED IT.
00:20:49.63\00:20:52.23
WE WERE GIVEN THE ASSURANCE
THAT WE WERE GOING THERE.
00:20:52.23\00:20:55.86
WE PAID THE DEPOSIT.
00:20:55.86\00:20:57.93
WE HAD IT SIGNED, SEALED,
BUT IT WAS NEVER DELIVERED.
00:20:57.93\00:21:02.50
BUT SOME CHURCH BUREAUCRATS
IN WASHINGTON SAID, "NO, WE'RE
00:21:02.50\00:21:09.93
GOING TO SEND SOMEBODY ELSE."
00:21:09.93\00:21:12.23
AND THEY SENT SOMEBODY ELSE
AND WE PRAYED FOR THAT PERSON.
00:21:12.23\00:21:15.73
WE WISHED HIM WELL, BUT--IT WAS
RATHER DEVASTATING FOR A WHILE,
00:21:15.73\00:21:20.33
BUT THEY SENT US TO THE PLACE
WHERE THEY SENT SAKHAROV, WHERE
00:21:20.33\00:21:24.23
THEY SENT THE FAMOUS DISSIDENT.
00:21:24.23\00:21:26.16
>> GORKY.
00:21:26.16\00:21:27.26
>> TO THE CITY OF GORKY.
00:21:27.26\00:21:28.40
>> NEW NAME.
00:21:28.40\00:21:29.43
>> YES, NIZHNI NOVGOROD.
00:21:29.43\00:21:30.73
AND THAT WAS BETTER THAN
ANYTHING THE KREMLIN COULD EVER
00:21:30.73\00:21:33.20
HAVE BEEN 'CAUSE WE HAD
DOUBLE THE SUCCESS THEY HAD
00:21:33.20\00:21:36.26
IN THE KREMLIN.
00:21:36.26\00:21:38.06
SO GOD IS GREAT, IS HE NOT?
00:21:38.06\00:21:40.06
AND GOD, DAVE, CAN
OVERTURN THE POLITICKING OF MEN.
00:21:40.06\00:21:48.03
HE CAN OVERTURN CHURCH POLITICS.
00:21:48.03\00:21:50.33
HE CAN OVERTURN ALL
THESE TWISTINGS AND TURNINGS
00:21:50.33\00:21:53.56
AND MANIPULATIONS.
00:21:53.56\00:21:55.96
AND IF WE DO WHAT--IF WE
SAY YES TO GOD AND NO TO MEN,
00:21:55.96\00:22:00.16
GOD IS GONNA BLESS US.
00:22:00.16\00:22:01.73
>> JUST A VERY QUICK ENDING OF
THIS PORTION OF OUR QUESTIONING
00:22:01.73\00:22:05.03
AND THAT IS WHAT WAS THE
EXPECTATION OF THE RUSSIAN
00:22:05.03\00:22:09.16
AUTHORITIES IN
SENDING YOU TO GORKY?
00:22:09.16\00:22:12.06
WHAT WAS THEIR EXPECTATION
AS TO WHAT THAT WOULD DO
00:22:12.06\00:22:14.30
TO THE CROWDS?
00:22:14.30\00:22:15.30
>> WELL, THE LEADER OF
THE CHURCH IN WASHINGTON D.C.
00:22:15.30\00:22:18.13
TOLD A FRIEND OF MINE, "WELL,
IF JOHN GOES THERE AND BAPTIZES
00:22:18.13\00:22:22.06
50 OR 60 PEOPLE, WE'LL BE
SO HAPPY WITH HIM AND WE'LL BE
00:22:22.06\00:22:25.90
SO HAPPY WITH HIM."
00:22:25.90\00:22:27.10
BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
00:22:27.10\00:22:28.23
WE BAPTIZED, BY THE GRACE OF
GOD, 2,530 PEOPLE IN THE WATERS
00:22:28.23\00:22:35.20
OF THE GREAT RIVER
THERE, THE VOLGA RIVER.
00:22:35.20\00:22:38.16
>> WOW.
00:22:38.16\00:22:39.16
>> AND THEY WERE
COMMUNISTS AND ATHEISTS.
00:22:39.16\00:22:41.56
>> ANY OPPOSITION THERE?
00:22:41.56\00:22:45.50
>> I'VE HAD OPPOSITION WHEREVER
I'VE GONE, BUT THE GREAT
00:22:45.50\00:22:49.90
CAMPAIGN IN NIZHNI
NOVGOROD WAS A FORETASTE OF THE
00:22:49.90\00:22:54.33
OUTPOURING OF THE SPIRIT OF
GOD JUST BEFORE JESUS COMES.
00:22:54.33\00:22:59.26
WE SAW WHAT SOME CALL
THE LATTER RAIN, THE MIGHTY
00:22:59.26\00:23:03.36
OUTPOURING OF THE SPIRIT
OF GOD IN THESE LAST DAYS.
00:23:03.36\00:23:08.53
WHEN WE WENT DOWN TO BOOK
THE HALL, I CAN REMEMBER THE OLD
00:23:08.53\00:23:11.13
COMMUNIST OFFICIAL
SITTING UNDER A STATUE OF LENIN.
00:23:11.13\00:23:15.93
HE SAID TO ME, "THEY WON'T COME.
00:23:15.93\00:23:18.30
THEY WON'T COME.
00:23:18.30\00:23:19.83
NOBODY'S GONNA COME.
00:23:19.83\00:23:20.90
WE'VE TAUGHT PEOPLE IN
THIS PART OF THE WORLD NOT EVEN
00:23:20.90\00:23:22.96
TO THINK OF HIM.
00:23:22.96\00:23:24.83
WE DON'T THINK OF HIM ANYMORE.
00:23:24.83\00:23:26.06
HE DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE."
00:23:26.06\00:23:29.50
BUT WE HIRED THIS MASSIVE
THEATER, THE BIGGEST THEATER IN
00:23:29.50\00:23:31.96
THAT PART OF THE WORLD, IN THAT
PART OF THE TOWN, AND THAT OLD
00:23:31.96\00:23:35.23
COMMUNIST OFFICIAL WAS ALMOST
TRAMPLED TO DEATH BY THE CROWDS
00:23:35.23\00:23:38.33
THAT CAME THROUGH THE DOORS.
00:23:38.33\00:23:40.66
WHEN THE CROWDS CAME THROUGH
THE DOORS, THEY DESTROYED
00:23:40.66\00:23:42.76
THE DOORS.
00:23:42.76\00:23:44.80
THOUSANDS UPON
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
00:23:44.80\00:23:47.20
I COULDN'T GET TO
THE BUILDING MYSELF.
00:23:47.20\00:23:49.50
THE RUSSIAN ARMY HAD TO PUT
ME IN A RUSSIAN MILITARY VEHICLE
00:23:49.50\00:23:54.00
AND TAKE ME TO THE MEETING.
00:23:54.00\00:23:55.26
I COULDN'T HAVE GOT THERE.
00:23:55.26\00:23:56.40
>> THAT'S QUITE AN ARRIVAL.
00:23:56.40\00:23:57.66
>> YES, IT IS.
00:23:57.66\00:23:59.83
VAST CROWDS OF PEOPLE HUNGRY.
00:23:59.83\00:24:03.50
VAST CROWDS.
00:24:03.50\00:24:04.53
PEOPLE STANDING IN THE WINDOWS,
STANDING IN THE DOORWAYS.
00:24:04.53\00:24:07.83
AN OLD MAN STANDING OUTSIDE,
CRYING OUT, "I'VE WAITED
00:24:07.83\00:24:11.16
70 YEARS FOR JESUS.
00:24:11.16\00:24:12.60
LET ME IN."
00:24:12.60\00:24:14.93
WE SAW THE HAND OF GOD.
00:24:14.93\00:24:16.76
AND EVEN THOUGH MAN
PROPOSES, GOD DISPOSES.
00:24:16.76\00:24:22.93
THEY STOPPED US FROM GOING
TO THE KREMLIN, BUT GOD HAS
00:24:22.93\00:24:26.10
SOMETHING BETTER FOR US.
00:24:26.10\00:24:28.63
AND WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN,
DAVE, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP SWEET,
00:24:28.63\00:24:32.86
AND WE'VE GOT TO PRAY
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE
00:24:32.86\00:24:35.66
THOSE THINGS TO US.
00:24:35.66\00:24:38.00
YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
00:24:38.00\00:24:40.40
JOSEPH SAID TO HIS BROTHERS,
"YOU MEANT IF FOR EVIL, BUT GOD
00:24:40.40\00:24:45.83
MEANT IT FOR GOOD, FOR
THE SAVING OF MANY SOULS."
00:24:45.83\00:24:51.06
AND I CAN SAY TO THOSE
THAT STOPPED US GOING TO THE
00:24:51.06\00:24:53.33
KREMLIN, "MAYBE YOU MEANT
IT FOR EVIL, BUT GOD MEANT IT
00:24:53.33\00:24:58.23
FOR GOOD AND FOR THE
SAVING OF MANY SOULS."
00:24:58.23\00:25:02.96
I THANK GOD I DIDN'T GO TO
THE KREMLIN, BUT THAT I WENT TO
00:25:02.96\00:25:08.16
NIZHNI NOVGOROD BECAUSE
THERE I SAW THE POWER OF GOD.
00:25:08.16\00:25:14.93
>> WE'RE TALKING WITH
PASTOR JOHN CARTER HERE
00:25:14.93\00:25:16.83
ON "THE CARTER REPORT"
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
00:25:16.83\00:25:18.80
THE HAND OF GOD AND AS
JOHN HAS SEEN IT IN HIS TRAVELS.
00:25:18.80\00:25:23.16
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
THE SOVIET UNION, THE UKRAINE.
00:25:23.16\00:25:28.03
PEOPLE SUPPORTED YOU.
00:25:28.03\00:25:30.00
THEY PROVIDED, IN VERY
PRACTICAL TERMS, MONEY TO MAKE
00:25:30.00\00:25:33.96
IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO GO.
00:25:33.96\00:25:36.13
BUT THE QUESTION
TODAY MAY BE, "BUT WHY?
00:25:36.13\00:25:39.50
WHY CARE?
00:25:39.50\00:25:40.73
IT'S ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE WORLD.
00:25:40.73\00:25:42.90
IT'S PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW."
00:25:42.90\00:25:44.80
AND SOME MIGHT EVEN SAY
IT'S PEOPLE WE DON'T EVEN FEEL
00:25:44.80\00:25:47.23
A THREAT FROM ANYMORE.
00:25:47.23\00:25:48.93
>> BUT WE DON'T GO BECAUSE WE
DON'T FEEL A THREAT FROM THEM.
00:25:48.93\00:25:53.16
AND WE DON'T NOT GO BECAUSE
THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE
00:25:53.16\00:25:57.50
OF THE WORLD.
00:25:57.50\00:25:58.93
WE GO BECAUSE JESUS TOLD US TO.
00:25:58.93\00:26:03.00
THIS WAS THE GREATEST
OPPORTUNITY I CAN THINK OF.
00:26:03.00\00:26:06.36
PEOPLE WHO'D BEEN KEPT IN
DARKNESS FOR 70 YEARS, WHO'D
00:26:06.36\00:26:10.83
SUFFERED MORE THAN ANY OTHER
PEOPLE PROBABLY IN THE HISTORY
00:26:10.83\00:26:13.66
OF THE WORLD.
00:26:13.66\00:26:14.73
FIFTY MILLION OF
THEM PUT TO DEATH.
00:26:14.73\00:26:17.56
FIFTY MILLION PEOPLE WITHOUT
GOD, WITHOUT HOPE IN THE WORLD,
00:26:17.56\00:26:23.06
LOCKED UP IN A PRISON.
00:26:23.06\00:26:24.56
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU CAN GO.
00:26:24.56\00:26:28.36
AND PEOPLE ARE
CRYING OUT FOR GOD.
00:26:28.36\00:26:32.53
I'VE SEEN THE HAND OF GOD.
00:26:32.53\00:26:34.80
I'VE SEEN THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE IN DARKNESS, IN PAIN, IN
00:26:34.80\00:26:40.03
SUFFERING, NO HOPE AT ALL,
GOING DOWN INTO CHRIST-LESS
00:26:40.03\00:26:44.90
GRAVES.
00:26:44.90\00:26:46.76
AND I'VE GONE AND I'VE
PREACHED THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST.
00:26:46.76\00:26:51.13
SURE, I STARTED ON BIBLICAL
ARCHAEOLOGY AND PROPHECY
00:26:51.13\00:26:57.00
BECAUSE THAT'S
HOW WE GOT THE CROWDS.
00:26:57.00\00:26:59.66
AND THIS IS A METHODOLOGY
THAT GOD HAS BLESSED.
00:26:59.66\00:27:02.70
BUT THEN, AS SOON AS WE COULD,
I TOLD THEM ABOUT CALVARY.
00:27:02.70\00:27:08.03
I TOLD THEM ABOUT JOHN 3:16.
00:27:08.03\00:27:10.83
I GOT THEM TO STAND, THOUSANDS
OF THEM, AND REPEAT AFTER ME,
00:27:10.83\00:27:16.16
"FOR GOD SO LOVED
THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE--"
00:27:16.16\00:27:19.83
THEY SAID IT IN RUSSIAN.
00:27:19.83\00:27:20.93
"THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON,
THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM
00:27:20.93\00:27:25.60
SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT
HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE."
00:27:25.60\00:27:28.60
THERE'S POWER IN JESUS.
00:27:28.60\00:27:31.63
AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE
COME FORWARD BY THE TENS OF
00:27:31.63\00:27:34.56
THOUSANDS, HARDENED
COMMUNISTS, MEMBERS OF THE KGB.
00:27:34.56\00:27:40.36
I'M TOLD I'M THE ONLY
PROTESTANT MINISTER IN HISTORY
00:27:40.36\00:27:44.40
WHO HAS PREACHED TO THE KGB.
00:27:44.40\00:27:46.70
>> TELL US ABOUT THAT.
00:27:46.70\00:27:48.36
>> I'VE SEEN
THEM MELTED IN TEARS.
00:27:48.36\00:27:51.30
HALFWAY THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN IN
NIZHNI NOVGOROD, A KGB COLONEL
00:27:51.30\00:27:55.10
CAME AND SAID, "WE WANT
YOU TO COME AND PREACH TO US."
00:27:55.10\00:27:58.70
THE CHURCH LEADERS
SAID, "AH, RUSSIAN JOKE.
00:27:58.70\00:28:03.26
THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO COME."
00:28:03.26\00:28:05.10
BUT THEY DID.
00:28:05.10\00:28:06.33
THE GENERAL WAS
COMING EVERY NIGHT.
00:28:06.33\00:28:08.96
THE GENERAL MET ME, PUT
HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART,
00:28:08.96\00:28:11.40
AND HE SAID, "DON'T FORGET US.
00:28:11.40\00:28:13.16
WE, TOO, HAVE HEARTS.
00:28:13.16\00:28:14.73
WE, TOO, HAVE SOULS.
00:28:14.73\00:28:16.53
WE MAY BE BAD PEOPLE,
BUT WE NEED WHAT YOU SAY."
00:28:16.53\00:28:21.46
TWICE I WENT TO KGB
HEADQUARTERS, ATE WITH THE
00:28:21.46\00:28:24.70
GENERALS AND THEIR STAFF AND
THE COLONELS, AND THEN PREACHED
00:28:24.70\00:28:28.73
TO MORE THAN 1000 KGB OFFICERS.
00:28:28.73\00:28:32.13
WHO CAN DOUBT THE POWER OF GOD?
00:28:32.13\00:28:34.70
WHO CAN DOUBT THE POWER OF GOD
WHEN YOU HAVE AN ALTAR CALL FOR
00:28:34.70\00:28:37.70
THE KGB AND 1000 COME
FORWARD, WEEPING COPIOUSLY?
00:28:37.70\00:28:43.13
AND WHEN I GAVE OUT BIBLES, I
WAS ALMOST CRUSHED BY THE MOB.
00:28:43.13\00:28:47.76
I TELL PEOPLE THESE STORIES
IN AUSTRALIA AND IN AMERICA
00:28:47.76\00:28:50.80
AND THEY SAY, "WE
CAN'T BELIEVE THIS."
00:28:50.80\00:28:53.36
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY
SEEM TO SERVE A LITTLE GOD.
00:28:53.36\00:28:56.86
>> WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE
ABOUT GOD AND ABOUT WHAT HE HAS
00:28:56.86\00:29:00.40
DONE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF
THE WORLD AS WE CONTINUE IN JUST
00:29:00.40\00:29:06.40
A FEW MOMENTS.
00:29:06.40\00:29:07.56
I'M DAVE DENO AND WE'RE TALKING
WITH PASTOR JOHN CARTER HERE ON
00:29:07.56\00:29:10.43
"THE CARTER REPORT."
00:29:10.43\00:29:11.83
DON'T GO AWAY.
00:29:11.83\00:29:12.83
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
00:29:12.83\00:29:14.83
>> HELLO, FRIEND.
00:29:16.63\00:29:17.53
I'M JOHN CARTER OUTSIDE
THE THEATER COMPLEX HERE
00:29:17.53\00:29:21.83
IN BEAUTIFUL JOHANNESBURG,
RIGHT HERE IN THE VERY HEART
00:29:21.83\00:29:26.13
OF SOUTH AFRICA.
00:29:26.13\00:29:27.70
THIS IS THE THEATER
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING
00:29:27.70\00:29:30.23
THE MEETINGS.
00:29:30.23\00:29:31.43
WE WANT YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE
THIS GREAT CITY NEEDS THE
00:29:31.43\00:29:34.80
PRAYERS OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:29:34.80\00:29:37.76
I KNOW THAT TIMES ARE TOUGH.
00:29:37.76\00:29:40.16
I KNOW THE
ECONOMY IS NOT THE BEST.
00:29:40.16\00:29:42.53
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW
THE PROMISES OF GOD ARE JUST
00:29:42.53\00:29:46.00
AS STRONG TODAY
AS THEY'VE EVER BEEN.
00:29:46.00\00:29:49.23
AND WHEN THINGS ARE TOUGH,
THAT'S WHEN WE SHOULD STEP OUT
00:29:49.23\00:29:52.36
BY FAITH.
00:29:52.36\00:29:53.53
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD
US, "DON'T RUN A CAMPAIGN
00:29:53.53\00:29:55.93
IN TOUGH TIMES."
00:29:55.93\00:29:57.16
I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS IS
THE TIME TO PREACH THE WORD
00:29:57.16\00:30:00.30
OF GOD AROUND THE WORLD.
00:30:00.30\00:30:02.83
THIS GREAT SERIES IS GOING
TO BE TELECAST RIGHT AROUND
00:30:02.83\00:30:06.70
SOUTH AFRICA.
00:30:06.70\00:30:08.00
NOT ONLY SOUTH AFRICA,
BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE GREAT
00:30:08.00\00:30:11.20
CONTINENT OF AFRICA,
HOME TO A BILLION SOULS.
00:30:11.20\00:30:16.16
WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS
COME, THE TIME IS RIPE TO PREACH
00:30:16.16\00:30:19.96
THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL
AS FOUND IN THE GREAT TRUTHS
00:30:19.96\00:30:23.46
OF THE THREE ANGELS' MESSAGES.
00:30:23.46\00:30:25.13
WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME.
00:30:25.13\00:30:26.76
PREACH, PREACH, PREACH.
00:30:26.76\00:30:29.00
PLEASE STAND WITH US IN THIS
GREAT AND THIS GLORIOUS WORK.
00:30:29.00\00:30:33.70
PLEASE WRITE TO ME
TODAY, JOHN CARTER,
00:30:33.70\00:30:36.93
POST OFFICE BOX 1900,
THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA,
00:30:36.93\00:30:41.16
91358.
00:30:41.16\00:30:42.96
IN AUSTRALIA, WRITE TO
ME, PLEASE, AT TERRIGAL.
00:30:42.96\00:30:46.56
PRAY FOR SOUTH AFRICA.
00:30:46.56\00:30:48.43
PRAY FOR THE TELECAST.
00:30:48.43\00:30:50.13
PRAY FOR THE PREACHING OF THE
WORD OF GOD IN THIS TREMENDOUS
00:30:50.13\00:30:54.33
HOUR IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY.
00:30:54.33\00:30:57.10
WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.
00:30:57.10\00:30:59.50
PLEASE PRAY FOR US AS WE
STEP OUT BY FAITH RIGHT HERE
00:30:59.50\00:31:04.33
IN AFRICA.
00:31:04.33\00:31:06.86
[MUSIC]
00:31:07.76\00:31:11.70
>> WELCOME BACK TO
"THE CARTER REPORT."
00:31:18.73\00:31:20.56
I'M DAVE DENO.
00:31:20.56\00:31:21.46
WE'RE TALKING WITH
,PASTOR JOHN CARTER
00:31:21.46\00:31:23.33
AND TODAY THE TOPIC IS
"SEEING THE HAND OF GOD."
00:31:23.33\00:31:26.13
WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME
TALKING ABOUT HOW JOHN HAS HAD
00:31:26.13\00:31:30.56
GOD'S PROMPTING AND THE GREAT
PRIVILEGE OF GOD'S PROMPTING
00:31:30.56\00:31:34.46
TO GO TO THE UKRAINE AND THE
SOVIET UNION, INDEED PERHAPS TO
00:31:34.46\00:31:39.03
BE THE FIRST EVANGELIST TO
BE ALLOWED IN THE SOVIET UNION.
00:31:39.03\00:31:42.96
AND JOHN, I WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND
00:31:42.96\00:31:45.86
SOME SUBSEQUENT CAMPAIGNS.
00:31:45.86\00:31:47.80
BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO STICK AROUND BECAUSE
00:31:47.80\00:31:51.16
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN
JUST A FEW MOMENTS AND THAT IS
00:31:51.16\00:31:54.13
ABOUT HOW YOU ARE
SOON TO GO TO SOUTH AFRICA.
00:31:54.13\00:31:57.80
>> JOHANNESBURG.
00:31:57.80\00:31:58.93
>> FOR A SERIES OF AMAZING
MEETINGS, AMAZING DISCOVERIES
00:31:58.93\00:32:02.50
IN LOST CITIES OF THE DEAD.
00:32:02.50\00:32:04.33
AS I SAID BEFORE, IF YOU WERE
DOING THIS SERIES HERE, I WOULD
00:32:04.33\00:32:07.60
BE AT THE MEETINGS.
00:32:07.60\00:32:09.06
YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:32:09.06\00:32:10.00
IT'S NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION
THAT YOU MIGHT GET ME TO GO TO
00:32:10.00\00:32:12.36
SOUTH AFRICA JUST TO
HEAR SOMETHING THIS SPECIAL.
00:32:12.36\00:32:15.13
>> THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.
00:32:15.13\00:32:16.50
>> LET'S GO BACK, THOUGH,
TO YOUR EXPERIENCES THAT YOU'VE
00:32:16.50\00:32:18.90
DESCRIBED.
00:32:18.90\00:32:20.00
I MEAN, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
00:32:20.00\00:32:24.03
HEARING THE MESSAGE OF
THE GOSPEL IN THE UKRAINE
00:32:24.03\00:32:27.00
AND IN THE SOVIET UNION.
00:32:27.00\00:32:29.13
YOU'VE BROUGHT THIS MESSAGE
IN SPITE OF A GREAT DEAL OF
00:32:29.13\00:32:33.06
OPPOSITION AND EVEN
SOME DANGERS, SOME THREATS.
00:32:33.06\00:32:37.10
YOU'VE FACED KGB OFFICERS WHO
TOLD YOU THAT THEY WANTED TO BE
00:32:37.10\00:32:44.13
CONSIDERED AS
WELL FOR THE GOSPEL.
00:32:44.13\00:32:46.36
THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU
TO FORGET THEM AS WELL.
00:32:46.36\00:32:49.16
ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I
HAD AS YOU WERE DESCRIBING THAT
00:32:49.16\00:32:52.23
WAS, "WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY
CAREFUL NOT TO JUDGE PEOPLE BY
00:32:52.23\00:32:57.90
THE OUTWARD APPEARANCE."
00:32:57.90\00:32:58.93
NOW THAT MAY SEEM
LIKE ALMOST A CLICHE--
00:32:58.93\00:33:01.06
>> BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.
00:33:01.06\00:33:02.06
>> IT IS.
00:33:02.06\00:33:03.03
>> NEEDS TO BE SAID.
00:33:03.03\00:33:04.10
>> I MEAN, THE KGB,
THAT'S PRETTY FORMIDABLE.
00:33:04.10\00:33:07.10
>> OH, SOME OF
THE BIGGEST THUGS.
00:33:07.10\00:33:10.26
>> AND YET, THEY
WANTED TO HEAR THE GOSPEL.
00:33:10.26\00:33:13.26
>> YES.
00:33:13.26\00:33:14.26
THE KGB LEADER,
GENERAL VLADIMIR,
00:33:14.26\00:33:18.10
HAD ME AT HIS PALACE,
LOOKED AFTER ME, WAS VERY
00:33:18.10\00:33:22.46
GRACIOUS TO ME.
00:33:22.46\00:33:23.96
THEN, AT THE END OF THIS
MAGNIFICENT MEAL, HE PASSED ME
00:33:23.96\00:33:26.73
A GLASS OF VODKA.
00:33:26.73\00:33:28.03
HE SAID, "NOW DRINK THIS
VODKA BECAUSE THIS WILL MAKE YOU
00:33:28.03\00:33:31.03
A STRONG MAN LIKE ME."
00:33:31.03\00:33:33.03
I SAID, "GENERAL,
I DON'T DRINK VODKA.
00:33:33.03\00:33:35.80
I DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL."
00:33:35.80\00:33:37.90
"YOU DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL?
00:33:37.90\00:33:39.46
EVERY RUSSIAN--MOST
RUSSIAN DRINKS, YOU KNOW.
00:33:39.46\00:33:42.46
IT'S A STRANGE THING TO MEET A
MAN WHO DOESN'T DRINK ALCOHOL."
00:33:42.46\00:33:45.53
I SAID, "NO, NO, NO.
00:33:45.53\00:33:47.06
I DON'T DRINK THE STUFF.
00:33:47.06\00:33:48.16
I HAVE A GREATER POWER AND
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE POWER
00:33:48.16\00:33:51.86
OF GOD DISPLAYED."
00:33:51.86\00:33:53.00
AND WE WENT IN AND SPOKE
TO ALL OF HIS KGB OFFICERS,
00:33:53.00\00:33:55.83
1000 OF THEM.
00:33:55.83\00:33:58.10
>> DID THESE
EVENTS DEEPEN YOUR FAITH?
00:33:58.10\00:34:01.46
>> YES, INDEED.
00:34:01.46\00:34:03.50
NOT ONLY DEEPEN MY
FAITH, BUT BROADEN MY FAITH.
00:34:03.50\00:34:08.90
WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR A
VAST BAPTISM IN THE RIVER VOLGA,
00:34:08.90\00:34:15.03
THE NIGHT BEFORE--THIS
IS A TERRIBLE CONFESSION.
00:34:15.03\00:34:18.56
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
"SHOULD I BE BAPTIZING ALL THESE
00:34:18.56\00:34:22.80
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE?
00:34:22.80\00:34:24.46
THIS DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT."
00:34:24.46\00:34:26.43
BECAUSE WE DON'T
BAPTIZE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
00:34:26.43\00:34:28.53
IN AUSTRALIA.
00:34:28.53\00:34:29.80
WE DON'T BAPTIZE
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
00:34:29.80\00:34:33.23
IN FACT, A PERSON WHO WAS
A SPIRITUAL LEADER IN THIS
00:34:33.23\00:34:38.80
COUNTRY SENT ME A MESSAGE.
00:34:38.80\00:34:40.50
"DON'T BAPTIZE ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
00:34:40.50\00:34:43.50
CAN'T BE RIGHT.
00:34:43.50\00:34:45.70
SO MANY PEOPLE WANTING TO
FOLLOW GOD, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
00:34:45.70\00:34:50.53
WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT,
SO IT CAN'T BE RIGHT."
00:34:50.53\00:34:54.26
>> WERE YOU CONCERNED AS TO
WHETHER THEY REALLY UNDERSTOOD
00:34:54.26\00:34:56.90
YOUR MESSAGE?
00:34:56.90\00:34:58.03
>> I WAS CONCERNED THAT I
WAS DOING THE WILL OF GOD.
00:34:58.03\00:35:01.46
THESE PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM
HAD COME TO MEETINGS TWICE A DAY
00:35:01.46\00:35:04.70
FOR 6 WEEKS, BLESS YOUR HEART.
00:35:04.70\00:35:07.90
AND I'D PREACHED TO
THEM STRONG BIBLE MESSAGES.
00:35:07.90\00:35:12.80
I'D PREACHED HERE AND
HERE AND HERE AND THE PEOPLE
00:35:12.80\00:35:17.20
HAD BEEN GIVEN BIBLES.
00:35:17.20\00:35:18.46
WE GAVE OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF BIBLES IN THAT CAMPAIGN
00:35:18.46\00:35:21.93
AND PEOPLE ARE READING
IT IN A RUSSIAN VERSION.
00:35:21.93\00:35:25.80
I BELIEVE THAT THE SPIRIT
OF GOD HAD BROUGHT THE WORDS OF
00:35:25.80\00:35:29.23
HOLY SCRIPTURE AND THE TRUTH OF
SALVATION HOME TO THESE PEOPLE.
00:35:29.23\00:35:34.06
AND WHO WAS I TO FORBID BAPTISM?
00:35:34.06\00:35:37.90
YOU SEE, GOD DOESN'T DO THINGS
ACCORDING TO OUR POLICY BOOKS
00:35:37.90\00:35:42.93
ALWAYS.
00:35:42.93\00:35:44.50
WE'VE GOT IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN,
HOW A PERSON COMES TO CHRIST,
00:35:44.50\00:35:49.06
HOW A PERSON IS
GOING TO BE SAVED.
00:35:49.06\00:35:51.80
WELL, GOD NEVER
WROTE ANY OF THOSE BOOKS.
00:35:51.80\00:35:53.93
HE WROTE THIS BOOK HERE.
00:35:53.93\00:35:56.13
AND SO OFTEN WE HAVE OUR OWN
TRADITIONS AND OUR OWN IDEAS,
00:35:56.13\00:36:00.86
BUT THE TIME IS GOING TO COME
WHEN THE CHURCH OF GOD IS GOING
00:36:00.86\00:36:03.16
TO BREAK FREE FROM--AND
WHATEVER CHURCH YOU BELONG TO,
00:36:03.16\00:36:06.43
I'M SAYING THIS TO.
00:36:06.43\00:36:07.60
THE CHURCH WILL BREAK FREE
FROM THE HINDRANCES OF MANMADE
00:36:07.60\00:36:11.83
TRADITIONS AND LET GOD BE GOD.
00:36:11.83\00:36:14.60
>> I'M REMINDED BY YOUR WORDS
OF JESUS AND HIS MINISTRY HERE
00:36:14.60\00:36:18.03
ON EARTH, AND HOW, AT TIMES,
NOT JUST BY THE OPPOSITION, BUT
00:36:18.03\00:36:23.46
BY THOSE WHO WERE HIS DISCIPLES
HE WAS TOLD, "WELL, LORD,
00:36:23.46\00:36:28.10
YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T
BE DOING IT THAT WAY."
00:36:28.10\00:36:30.13
>> YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
00:36:30.13\00:36:33.70
THE CHURCH HAS ALWAYS
HAD BETTER WAYS OF DOING IT
00:36:33.70\00:36:35.96
THAN GOD HAS.
00:36:35.96\00:36:38.96
>> YOU ALSO PREACHED, AND THIS
SORT OF RELATES BACK TO WHERE
00:36:40.63\00:36:47.53
WE ARE TODAY IN SOME OF THE
THREATS ON OUR SOCIETY AND OUR
00:36:47.53\00:36:51.26
FAITH TODAY, BUT BACK THEN,
YOU ALSO PREACHED TO A GATHERING
00:36:51.26\00:36:55.43
IN A CITY THAT WAS
MOSTLY A GROUP OF MUSLIMS.
00:36:55.43\00:36:59.73
>> YES.
00:36:59.73\00:37:00.83
THAT WAS IN THE CITY OF
KAZAN, WHICH IS THE CAPITAL OF
00:37:00.83\00:37:04.56
TATARSTAN.
00:37:04.56\00:37:06.36
TATARSTAN, THE
COUNTRY OF THE TATARS.
00:37:06.36\00:37:09.30
THE TATARS WERE ONCE A FIERCE,
BARBARIC, NOMADIC TRIBE OF
00:37:09.30\00:37:13.70
PEOPLE WHO FLOODED INTO
RUSSIA AND CHASED A LOT OF
00:37:13.70\00:37:17.06
THE RUSSIANS OUT.
00:37:17.06\00:37:18.20
THEY WERE FORMIDABLE PEOPLE.
00:37:18.20\00:37:20.63
AND WE RECEIVED, BY THE GRACE
OF GOD, AN AMAZING INVITATION
00:37:20.63\00:37:24.70
TO GO AND PREACH THERE.
00:37:24.70\00:37:26.50
AND IT CAME THROUGH A MAN
WHO WATCHED OUR VIDEO PROGRAMS,
00:37:26.50\00:37:29.70
THE "CARTER
REPORT" VIDEO PROGRAMS,
00:37:29.70\00:37:31.86
WHO WAS THE LEADER OF THE
RUSSIAN MAFIA IN THAT PART
00:37:31.86\00:37:34.86
OF THE WORLD.
00:37:34.86\00:37:36.10
>> SAY THAT AGAIN.
00:37:36.10\00:37:37.33
>> THE LEADER OF
THE RUSSIAN MAFIA.
00:37:37.33\00:37:39.80
HE HAD AN ARMY OF
400 PEOPLE WITH AK-47s
00:37:39.80\00:37:43.86
AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
00:37:43.86\00:37:45.23
AND THIS MAN WATCHED ONE
TELEVISION PROGRAM, AND DURING
00:37:45.23\00:37:48.03
THE TELEVISION PROGRAM,
HE WAS CONVERTED TO CHRIST.
00:37:48.03\00:37:51.20
AND THEN HE WATCHED THE REST.
00:37:51.20\00:37:53.33
HE SOLD HIS TREMENDOUS HOUSE,
WHICH HE'D MADE OUT OF DRUGS
00:37:53.33\00:37:56.90
AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND
BUILT US A MAGNIFICENT CHURCH.
00:37:56.90\00:38:01.10
THIS MAN WAS FRIENDS OF
THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF KAZAN.
00:38:01.10\00:38:07.16
HE WENT TO HIM AND HE SAID,
"I WANT YOU TO ALLOW JOHN CARTER
00:38:07.16\00:38:10.46
TO COME AND PREACH HERE."
00:38:10.46\00:38:11.56
HE SAID, "NEVER."
00:38:11.56\00:38:13.30
HE DIDN'T SAY,
"OVER MY DEAD BODY."
00:38:13.30\00:38:15.43
HE SAID, "NO."
00:38:15.43\00:38:19.23
ILDAR SAID TO HIM,
"IN THE NAME OF GOD.
00:38:19.23\00:38:23.13
REMEMBER, WE ARE FRIENDS.
00:38:23.13\00:38:25.56
WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS."
00:38:25.56\00:38:27.20
THEY WERE IN THE
SAME ORGANIZATION.
00:38:27.20\00:38:29.23
HE SAID, "PLEASE."
00:38:29.23\00:38:30.56
THE MAYOR SAID,
"GIVE ME THE PAPER."
00:38:30.56\00:38:32.60
HE TOOK THE PAPER, HE
SIGNED HIS NAME FOR IT.
00:38:32.60\00:38:34.80
HE SAID, "THIS MAY
BE MY DEATH SENTENCE."
00:38:34.80\00:38:37.13
BUT HE SIGNED HIS NAME ON THE
PIECE OF PAPER AND THAT'S HOW
00:38:37.13\00:38:40.16
WE CAME TO THE CITY OF KAZAN.
00:38:40.16\00:38:42.03
BUT THEN WE
COULDN'T GET THE AUDITORIUM,
00:38:42.03\00:38:44.93
THE BIG AUDITORIUM DOWNTOWN.
00:38:44.93\00:38:46.20
IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET.
00:38:46.20\00:38:48.93
BUT THIS MAN, THE LEADER OF THE
MAFIA, WHO IS NOW AN EVANGELIST
00:38:48.93\00:38:53.90
BECAUSE OF THE POWER
OF GOD, HE HAD A BUDDY.
00:38:53.90\00:38:57.70
HIS NAME WAS VASILY AND HE
WAS BAPTIZED ALSO BECAUSE OF OUR
00:38:57.70\00:39:02.40
TELEVISION PROGRAMS.
00:39:02.40\00:39:04.60
HIS WIFE HAD A GIRLFRIEND AND
SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF THE MAN
00:39:04.60\00:39:09.63
WHO OWNED THE AUDITORIUM.
00:39:09.63\00:39:11.96
AND SHE WENT TO HER FATHER
AND SAID, "LET JOHN CARTER
00:39:11.96\00:39:15.20
HAVE THIS AUDITORIUM."
00:39:15.20\00:39:17.20
HE SAID, "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE."
00:39:17.20\00:39:19.26
BUT SHE SAID, "FATHER, PLEASE."
00:39:19.26\00:39:21.56
AND HE SAID, "ALL RIGHT."
00:39:21.56\00:39:23.90
AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT
THE AUDITORIUM AND THAT'S HOW
00:39:23.90\00:39:26.20
WE CAME TO KAZAN.
00:39:26.20\00:39:28.83
AND NOW WE WERE TALKING
IN A PROGRAM SOME TIME BACK.
00:39:28.83\00:39:32.66
I WAS INTERVIEWING AN
ATTORNEY AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL
00:39:32.66\00:39:37.76
INTERVIEW AND IT'LL BE SEEN
ON--LATER ON ON THIS TELEVISION
00:39:37.76\00:39:41.86
STATION.
00:39:41.86\00:39:44.66
ALAN REINACH IS THE ATTORNEY
AND WE'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE
00:39:44.66\00:39:48.70
MOSLEMS AND HOW YOU HAVE SOME
FOLKS WHO ARE TERRIBLY EXTREME
00:39:48.70\00:39:53.70
AND YOU HAVE
FOLKS WHO ARE MODERATES.
00:39:53.70\00:39:56.90
THE LEADER OF THE MOSLEM FAITH
CAME TO OUR MEETINGS IN KAZAN
00:39:56.90\00:40:01.96
AND HE CAME WITH ALL OF HIS
DEPUTIES AND THEY SAT THERE.
00:40:01.96\00:40:06.73
AND WHEN I HAD AN ALTAR CALL
AND I TALKED ABOUT COMING TO
00:40:06.73\00:40:10.53
GOD AND I ALSO--I QUOTED--I
WAS QUOTING THE BIBLE AND I WAS
00:40:10.53\00:40:14.80
PREACHING AS HARD AS I COULD,
PREACHING AS HARD AS I COULD
00:40:14.80\00:40:18.20
WITH THE POWER OF THE
SPIRIT OF GOD, NOT HOLDING BACK.
00:40:18.20\00:40:20.70
AND THEN I WOULD
QUOTE A BIT FROM THE KORAN.
00:40:20.70\00:40:24.23
YOU KNOW, I QUOTED A BIT
FROM THE KORAN AND HE RESPONDED.
00:40:24.23\00:40:28.66
HE RAISED HIS HAND FOR PRAYER
AND HE SENT ME--HE CAME TO ME
00:40:28.66\00:40:33.16
AT THE MESSAGE.
00:40:33.16\00:40:34.23
HE SAID, "WE DO NOT
OPPOSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
00:40:34.23\00:40:37.50
YOU ARE DOING A GOOD WORK.
00:40:37.50\00:40:39.93
YOU'RE A GIFT FROM HEAVEN."
00:40:39.93\00:40:43.06
AND WE BAPTIZED HUNDREDS OF
MOSLEMS IN FRONT OF THE MOSQUE,
00:40:43.06\00:40:48.16
ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
MOSQUES IN THE WORLD, BUILT
00:40:48.16\00:40:51.43
WITH MONEY FROM SAUDI ARABIA.
00:40:51.43\00:40:53.80
IT IS AN OIL
RICH PLACE, IS KAZAN.
00:40:53.80\00:40:57.16
AND THE BAPTISM WAS
HELD IN FRONT OF THE MOSQUE
00:40:57.16\00:41:00.36
IN THE RIVER.
00:41:00.36\00:41:02.00
SO AS THE MOSLEMS
SAY, GOD IS GREAT.
00:41:02.00\00:41:04.76
I WANT TO SAY TO THE CHURCH
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THE
00:41:04.76\00:41:07.66
PROGRAM, WHERE IS YOUR FAITH?
00:41:07.66\00:41:10.76
SOMETIMES WHEN GOD WANTS
TO DO SOMETHING, YOU STOP IT.
00:41:10.76\00:41:14.40
YOU SAY, "IT CAN'T BE DONE."
00:41:14.40\00:41:16.03
AND MAYBE YOU'RE ON A
CHURCH COMMITTEE THAT TALKS DOWN
00:41:16.03\00:41:18.66
EVERYTHING.
00:41:18.66\00:41:19.86
YOU SAY, "CAN'T BE DONE."
00:41:19.86\00:41:22.30
WE NEED TO STOP THIS
SINFUL BEHAVIOR AND SAY NO
00:41:22.30\00:41:27.23
TO THE DEVIL AND YES TO GOD.
00:41:27.23\00:41:30.46
>> JOHN, I REMEMBER VERY EARLY
IN MY YEARS IN WORKING IN RADIO
00:41:30.46\00:41:37.63
A YOUNG, FERVENT CHRISTIAN.
00:41:37.63\00:41:41.33
I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS,
BUT I REMEMBER THE LESSON.
00:41:41.33\00:41:44.70
SOMEONE WANTED US TO WRITE
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
00:41:44.70\00:41:49.73
A CERTAIN WAY AND I
WAS RESISTANT TO IT.
00:41:49.73\00:41:54.30
AND MY STATION MANAGER CAME TO
ME AND HE SAID, "WELL DAVE, WHY
00:41:54.30\00:41:58.66
WOULDN'T YOU WRITE IT THAT WAY?
00:41:58.66\00:42:01.23
WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM?
00:42:01.23\00:42:02.93
WHAT WOULD BE THE HARM?"
00:42:02.93\00:42:04.20
"WELL, WE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY."
00:42:04.20\00:42:06.56
"WHO SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO
DO ANYTHING A CERTAIN WAY?"
00:42:06.56\00:42:10.13
>> THE POLICY BOOK SAYS IT.
00:42:10.13\00:42:12.20
>> AND IT WAS A
GREAT LESSON FOR ME.
00:42:12.20\00:42:14.86
YOU KNOW, AS YOU LOOK BACK
AND YOU SEE EVENTS LIKE THIS
00:42:14.86\00:42:18.03
AND YOU SEE THE TREMENDOUS
OUTPOURING OF NEED AND RESPONSE
00:42:18.03\00:42:23.53
TO THE GOSPEL, WE SEE TIME
AFTER TIME IN THE WORD OF GOD
00:42:23.53\00:42:28.03
HOW MEN OF GOD ARE OVERWHELMED
AT SEEING THE HAND OF THE LORD.
00:42:28.03\00:42:34.20
YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN
OVERWHELMED AT TIMES IN YOUR
00:42:34.20\00:42:38.23
LIFE, LITERALLY DRIVEN TO
YOUR KNEES IN AWE OF WHAT GOD
00:42:38.23\00:42:42.46
HAS DONE.
00:42:42.46\00:42:43.53
>> YEAH, BUT DRIVEN TO
MY KNEES BECAUSE OF MY OWN,
00:42:43.53\00:42:48.03
PERSONAL NEED.
00:42:48.03\00:42:49.63
NOW DID I SAY IT TO YOU?
00:42:49.63\00:42:52.80
JOHN NEWTON, WHO GAVE US
THE HYMN "AMAZING GRACE,'
00:42:52.80\00:42:55.23
SAID AT THE END OF HIS LIFE,
"MY MEMORY IS ALMOST GONE."
00:42:55.23\00:42:59.63
HE SAID, "I AM BLIND.
00:42:59.63\00:43:00.86
AND--I WAS
BLIND, BUT NOW I SEE."
00:43:00.86\00:43:03.90
HE SAID, "I WAS BLIND, BUT
NOW I SEE SPIRITUAL TRUTH."
00:43:03.90\00:43:08.16
AND HE SAID, "I CAN
REMEMBER TWO GREAT TRUTHS.
00:43:08.16\00:43:11.23
I AM A GREAT SINNER.
00:43:11.23\00:43:13.23
CHRIST IS A GREAT SAVIOR."
00:43:13.23\00:43:15.70
GOD CAN'T USE US
UNTIL WE SEE THOSE TRUTHS.
00:43:15.70\00:43:19.50
MOST OF US DO NOT CONFESS
THAT WE ARE GREAT SINNERS.
00:43:19.50\00:43:24.30
WE'RE SELF-RIGHTEOUS.
00:43:24.30\00:43:26.23
WE THINK THAT OUR POMPOUS
RELIGIOSITY IS GOING TO SAVE US
00:43:26.23\00:43:31.30
WHEN POMPOUS RELIGIOSITY
IS GOING TO KEEP US OUT OF
00:43:31.30\00:43:34.40
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
00:43:34.40\00:43:36.90
AND ONE OF OUR GREAT--OUR
GREATEST NEED IS TO SAY FROM
00:43:36.90\00:43:40.80
OUR HEARTS, "I AM A GREAT
SINNER AND JESUS IS A GREAT
00:43:40.80\00:43:43.83
SAVIOR."
00:43:43.83\00:43:45.23
NOW I'M A GREAT SINNER.
00:43:45.23\00:43:47.60
THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID,
"I AM THE CHIEF OF SINNERS."
00:43:47.60\00:43:52.90
THAT'S HOW HE SAW HIMSELF.
00:43:52.90\00:43:55.83
NOW THE CHURCH OF LAODICEA
DOESN'T SEE ITSELF THIS WAY.
00:43:55.83\00:43:59.10
IT SAYS, "I AM RICH
AND INCREASED WITH GOODS
00:43:59.10\00:44:02.10
AND IN NEED OF NOTHING."
00:44:02.10\00:44:03.90
THAT'S THE CRY OF THE
PHARISEE AND THE PHARISEES
00:44:03.90\00:44:07.33
CRUCIFIED CHRIST.
00:44:07.33\00:44:10.80
BUT I'M VERY CONSCIOUS THAT
I AM A GREAT SINNER AND CHRIST
00:44:10.80\00:44:14.10
IS A GREAT SAVIOR.
00:44:14.10\00:44:16.50
AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS
MIGHTY TO SAVE AND I JUST WISH
00:44:16.50\00:44:20.36
THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD
COULD CAST ASIDE ALL OF THEIR
00:44:20.36\00:44:26.86
DOUBTINGS AND HAVE FAITH AND
BELIEVE AND BELIEVE THAT JESUS
00:44:26.86\00:44:34.23
IS COMING SOON AND THIS GOSPEL
OF THE KINGDOM WILL BE PREACHED
00:44:34.23\00:44:38.50
IN ALL THE WORLD.
00:44:38.50\00:44:39.80
NOTHING, NOTHING,
NOTHING CAN STOP IT.
00:44:39.80\00:44:42.93
AND WE NEED TO SAY NO TO
THE DEVIL AND YES TO GOD.
00:44:42.93\00:44:46.46
>> JOHN, YOU MADE REFERENCE
TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE HANDED
00:44:46.46\00:44:49.36
OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS, MAYBE BY
THIS TIME HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
00:44:49.36\00:44:53.36
OF COPIES OF THE BIBLE IN
ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ALL AROUND
00:44:53.36\00:44:57.63
THE WORLD.
00:44:57.63\00:44:58.70
>> HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
00:44:58.70\00:45:00.10
>> IT IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT
FOR A PERSON TO COME TO CHRIST,
00:45:00.10\00:45:03.20
TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO
TURN THEIR LIFE OVER TO CHRIST,
00:45:03.20\00:45:06.73
TO GIVE THEIR HEART TO CHRIST.
00:45:06.73\00:45:08.70
BUT THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN
THAT AND THAT'S WHY YOU GIVE
00:45:08.70\00:45:11.56
THEM THE BIBLE.
00:45:11.56\00:45:12.56
>> YEAH.
00:45:12.56\00:45:13.63
JESUS SAID, "IT IS WRITTEN MAN
SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE,
00:45:13.63\00:45:20.16
BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD."
00:45:20.16\00:45:24.30
SPURGEON, THE PRINCE OF
PREACHERS FROM THE LONDON
00:45:24.30\00:45:28.96
TABERNACLE, DURING
THE 19TH CENTURY SAID--
00:45:28.96\00:45:33.43
THESE ARE QUAINT WORDS.
00:45:33.43\00:45:34.90
"LEAN CHRISTIANS OWN
BIBLES, BUT FEED ON NEWSPAPERS."
00:45:34.90\00:45:40.03
SKINNY
CHRISTIANS, ANEMIC CHRISTIANS.
00:45:40.03\00:45:43.53
IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY,
HE'D SAY, "ANEMIC CHRISTIANS OWN
00:45:43.53\00:45:46.86
BIBLES AND FEED ON
TELEVISION AND OTHER JUNK."
00:45:46.86\00:45:54.76
AND SO CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE
NOT MUCH DIFFERENT TO THE PEOPLE
00:45:54.76\00:45:57.93
IN THE WORLD.
00:45:57.93\00:45:59.73
THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
ARE CONSUMED BY THE THINGS
00:45:59.73\00:46:02.50
OF THE WORLD.
00:46:02.50\00:46:04.26
SO ARE THE CHRISTIANS.
00:46:04.26\00:46:05.53
THEY LOOK AT THE SAME
TELEVISION PROGRAMS, GO TO THE
00:46:05.53\00:46:07.66
SAME SHOWS, AND HARDLY
KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE THE BIBLE.
00:46:07.66\00:46:11.93
WE ARE BIBLICALLY ILLITERATE.
00:46:11.93\00:46:13.90
AND BECAUSE WE ARE BIBLICALLY
ILLITERATE, WE ARE ROBBED OF
00:46:13.90\00:46:17.56
THE POTENCY AND THE FORCE AND
THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
00:46:17.56\00:46:21.56
WE NEED THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
00:46:21.56\00:46:23.46
>> MOST OF THOSE WATCHING
US TODAY HAVE THIS BOOK,
00:46:23.46\00:46:27.36
THE BIBLE, GOD'S
WORD IN THEIR HOME.
00:46:27.36\00:46:29.76
>> YES, EVERYBODY.
00:46:29.76\00:46:30.76
>> AND YET, FOR SO
MANY IT IS RARELY OPENED.
00:46:30.76\00:46:34.96
PERHAPS IN TIMES OF
NEED, BUT MAYBE THEN MORE
00:46:34.96\00:46:39.06
THAN ANY OTHER TIME.
00:46:39.06\00:46:40.46
WHAT'S IN THIS
BOOK WAITING FOR THEM?
00:46:40.46\00:46:44.13
>> IT'S THE WORD OF GOD.
00:46:44.13\00:46:45.76
THE WORD OF GOD
MADE THE UNIVERSE.
00:46:45.76\00:46:48.76
YOU KNOW WHEN LAZARUS
DIED, HE WAS RESURRECTED.
00:46:48.76\00:46:52.26
JESUS SAID, "TAKE
OFF THE GRAVE CLOTHES.
00:46:52.26\00:46:54.76
LET HIM GO."
00:46:54.76\00:46:56.03
THAT'S WHAT THE
CHURCH NEEDS TO DO.
00:46:56.03\00:46:58.13
TAKE OFF THE
GRAVE CLOTHES AND GO.
00:46:58.13\00:47:01.66
AND WE NEED TO BE RESURRECTED
BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
00:47:01.66\00:47:05.33
THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY BOOK.
00:47:05.33\00:47:07.43
THIS IS THE WORD
OF THE LIVING GOD.
00:47:07.43\00:47:10.33
IT IS THE LIVING
WORD OF THE LIVING GOD.
00:47:10.33\00:47:13.63
THIS WORD IS WITH POWER.
00:47:13.63\00:47:16.76
PEOPLE ARE LIVING IMPOTENT,
SHALLOW, FEEBLE, SINFUL, SICK,
00:47:16.76\00:47:22.26
LITTLE LIVES BECAUSE
THEY ARE ROBBING THEMSELVES OF
00:47:22.26\00:47:25.33
THE POTENCY OF THE WORD OF GOD.
00:47:25.33\00:47:27.50
THAT'S WHY I HAVE A
SAYING IN THIS CHURCH.
00:47:27.50\00:47:29.83
SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE ME AND
I GUESS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.
00:47:29.83\00:47:33.20
READ YOUR BIBLE EVERY DAY.
00:47:33.20\00:47:34.80
I SAY IT TO THEM.
00:47:34.80\00:47:35.76
READ YOUR BIBLE.
00:47:35.76\00:47:36.66
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST LOOK
AT ME AND I KNOW THEY'RE GOING
00:47:36.66\00:47:39.66
TO GO HOME AND THEY'RE GONNA
SPEND 40 OR 50 HOURS THIS WEEK
00:47:39.66\00:47:43.40
WATCHING TELEVISION AND MAYBE
THE ONLY EXPOSURE THEY'RE GOING
00:47:43.40\00:47:46.90
TO GET TO THE WORD OF GOD
WAS WHEN I WAS PREACHING IT.
00:47:46.90\00:47:51.13
AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY'VE
GOT NO POWER IN THEIR LIVES.
00:47:51.13\00:47:54.46
NOW I KNOW THERE'S
POWER IN THIS BOOK.
00:47:54.46\00:47:56.60
I'D LIKE TO THINK I'M AN
OLD FASHIONED BIBLE PREACHER.
00:47:56.60\00:47:59.73
I'VE GONE INTO PLACES AND
PREACHERS HAVE BEEN IN THE
00:47:59.73\00:48:02.76
AUDIENCE AND THEY'VE TOLD
ME, "WE DON'T BRING OUR BIBLES
00:48:02.76\00:48:05.23
TO CHURCH ANYMORE."
00:48:05.23\00:48:06.33
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?
00:48:06.33\00:48:07.90
THEY REALLY NEED A SHAKEUP.
00:48:07.90\00:48:09.90
THEY NEED THEIR HEADS TO BE
INVESTIGATED AND THEIR SOULS
00:48:09.90\00:48:13.16
TO BE EXPLORED.
00:48:13.16\00:48:16.33
I HAVE USED THIS BOOK AND
STOOD BEFORE VAST AUDIENCES
00:48:16.33\00:48:19.20
OF UNBELIEVERS.
00:48:19.20\00:48:20.46
IN INDIA, I STOOD BEFORE
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HINDUS
00:48:20.46\00:48:23.86
AND MOSLEMS, THE
HARDEST PEOPLE IN
00:48:23.86\00:48:26.70
THE WORLD TO REACH,
AND I PREACHED THE TEXTS
00:48:26.70\00:48:28.93
OF THE BIBLE.
00:48:28.93\00:48:30.50
LISTEN, I'M JUST A POOR SINNER.
00:48:30.50\00:48:32.26
I'M NOT A GREAT PREACHER.
00:48:32.26\00:48:34.13
I'M NOT GREAT AT ANYTHING,
JUST AN ORDINARY PERSON.
00:48:34.13\00:48:38.43
BUT I PREACHED THIS WORD
IN INDIA WITH POWER AND I SAW
00:48:38.43\00:48:42.70
TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MOVED.
00:48:42.70\00:48:46.96
I SAW THE SPIRIT
OF GOD MANIFESTED.
00:48:46.96\00:48:49.63
THE SPIRIT OF GOD, DAVE,
DOES NOTHING IN OPPOSITION TO
00:48:49.63\00:48:54.80
THE WORD, NOTHING CONTRARY
TO THE WORD, AND NOTHING APART
00:48:54.80\00:48:59.60
FROM THE WORD.
00:48:59.60\00:49:00.96
PEOPLE SAY, "OH, I
GOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD."
00:49:00.96\00:49:03.70
WELL, YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT
OF GOD IF YOU HAVE THE WORD
00:49:03.70\00:49:06.16
BECAUSE THE WORD AND
THE SPIRIT WORK TOGETHER.
00:49:06.16\00:49:08.90
SO I'VE SEEN IT IN AFRICA.
00:49:08.90\00:49:11.76
I'VE SEEN IT IN AUSTRALIA.
00:49:11.76\00:49:13.16
I'VE SEEN IT IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
00:49:13.16\00:49:15.86
I'VE SEEN IT IN THE PHILIPPINES.
00:49:15.86\00:49:17.73
I'VE SEEN IT IN JAMAICA.
00:49:17.73\00:49:19.46
I SAW IT RECENTLY WHEN I
WAS PREACHING IN HONG KONG
00:49:19.46\00:49:22.60
AND MADE AN ALTAR CALL.
00:49:22.60\00:49:24.26
I'VE SEEN IT IN RUSSIA, UKRAINE.
00:49:24.26\00:49:27.36
I'VE SEEN IT IN SO MANY
PLACES THAT THE POWER IS NOT
00:49:27.36\00:49:29.96
IN THE MAN, THE POWER
IS IN THE WORD OF GOD.
00:49:29.96\00:49:33.03
>> YOU HAVE GIVEN OUT
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BIBLES.
00:49:33.03\00:49:35.40
WHERE DO YOU GET THEM FROM?
00:49:35.40\00:49:37.13
WHERE'S THE MONEY COME FROM?
00:49:37.13\00:49:39.90
>> THE MONEY COMES FROM
THE PEOPLE OF GOD, THE LAOS.
00:49:39.90\00:49:43.73
THE WORD LAOS IS
A NEW TESTAMENT TERM
00:49:43.73\00:49:46.50
THAT WE CALL ABOUT THE LAITY.
00:49:46.50\00:49:48.70
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS
LAITY IN THE SENSE THAT YOU GOT
00:49:48.70\00:49:51.96
THE LAITY AND THE CLERGY.
00:49:51.96\00:49:53.70
THAT IS AN ABOMINABLE TEACHING.
00:49:53.70\00:49:56.43
IT'S NOT TAUGHT
IN THE BIBLE AT ALL.
00:49:56.43\00:49:59.26
THERE'S ONLY THE
LAOS, THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:49:59.26\00:50:01.53
PEOPLE SAY,
"WELL, THE CHURCH SAYS.
00:50:01.53\00:50:06.30
THE CHURCH SAYS THIS
AND--" WHAT'S THE CHURCH?
00:50:06.30\00:50:09.86
THE CHURCH IS MADE
UP OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:50:09.86\00:50:12.93
IT'S PEOPLE WHO TRULY BELIEVE
IN JESUS AND, BY THE GRACE
00:50:12.93\00:50:18.53
OF GOD, FOLLOW HIS WORD.
00:50:18.53\00:50:20.40
THAT'S THE CHURCH.
00:50:20.40\00:50:21.80
THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW JESUS,
WHO FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD.
00:50:21.80\00:50:26.33
AND I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE
MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH
00:50:26.33\00:50:28.66
OF GOD, THE LAOS, THE
TRUE LAITY, THEY'VE SAID,
00:50:28.66\00:50:33.10
"WE BELIEVE YOUR VISION.
00:50:33.10\00:50:34.66
WE BELIEVE IN
WHAT YOU'RE DOING."
00:50:34.66\00:50:36.83
I WAS OVER IN THE CITY OF
CANBERRA, WENT TO THE GREAT NEW
00:50:36.83\00:50:40.23
PARLIAMENT HOUSE THAT THE
AUSSIES HAVE BUILT IN CANBERRA,
00:50:40.23\00:50:44.00
SPENT MORE THAN A BILLION
DOLLARS ON THAT BUILDING.
00:50:44.00\00:50:47.50
CAN'T SEE WHERE THEY PUT
IT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
00:50:47.50\00:50:49.96
BUT I WAS THERE AND I MET
SOME FRIENDS THAT I HADN'T SEEN
00:50:49.96\00:50:53.33
FOR 30 YEARS,
EDDIE AND NANCY PEETS.
00:50:53.33\00:50:56.56
THEY'D BEEN MISSIONARIES
IN PAKISTAN AND OTHER PLACES
00:50:56.56\00:50:59.26
AROUND THE WORLD.
00:50:59.26\00:51:00.56
AS WE STARTED TALKING, EDDIE,
WHO WAS A TREASURER OF THE
00:51:00.56\00:51:05.76
ORGANIZATION--NOW THE
TREASURERS ARE USUALLY THE
00:51:05.76\00:51:09.36
TOUGHEST PEOPLE BECAUSE
THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU AS LITTLE
00:51:09.36\00:51:12.30
AS THEY CAN GIVE YOU.
00:51:12.30\00:51:13.76
I DON'T GET ANYTHING
FROM THE TREASURERS ANYMORE.
00:51:13.76\00:51:16.16
THEY'RE NOT
INTERESTED IN HELPING THIS WORK.
00:51:16.16\00:51:18.23
BUT EDDIE SAID TO ME, HE
SAID, "THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD,
00:51:18.23\00:51:22.20
PREACHING THE GOSPEL."
00:51:22.20\00:51:23.20
HE SAID, "THAT'S
WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT."
00:51:23.20\00:51:25.30
HE SAID, "A LOT OF PEOPLE
HAVE LOST SIGHT OF THAT VISION,
00:51:25.30\00:51:27.50
BUT PREACHING THE GOSPEL
AND PREACHING IT WITH POWER
00:51:27.50\00:51:31.90
AND PREACHING THE BIBLE
IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT."
00:51:31.90\00:51:34.73
EDDIE'S RIGHT.
00:51:34.73\00:51:35.73
THAT'S WHAT JESUS SAID.
00:51:35.73\00:51:36.83
WHY DON'T WE BELIEVE JESUS?
00:51:36.83\00:51:39.16
>> IT'S A GREAT
CHALLENGE TO THOSE WHO LISTEN
00:51:39.16\00:51:44.50
TO WHAT YOU TEACH.
00:51:44.50\00:51:45.86
IT'S A GREAT CHALLENGE TO THOSE
WHO WATCH US TODAY TO ACTUALLY
00:51:45.86\00:51:50.26
GET INVOLVED, TO BE A PART
OF THIS, AND TO SEE THE HAND
00:51:50.26\00:51:54.46
OF GOD IN THEIR OWN LIFE
AND TO SEE THE HAND OF GOD
00:51:54.46\00:51:58.56
IN WHAT THEY SUPPORT.
00:51:58.56\00:52:01.26
I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN THE HAND
OF GOD OVER ALL THESE YEARS.
00:52:01.26\00:52:04.43
IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR
SO MANY OTHERS TO COME ALONG
00:52:04.43\00:52:07.30
WITH YOU IN THIS WAY.
00:52:07.30\00:52:08.63
>> I'VE TAKEN HEAPS AND HEAPS
OF--HUNDREDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE,
00:52:08.63\00:52:11.80
OLDER PEOPLE TO
RUSSIA, UKRAINE, JAMAICA,
00:52:11.80\00:52:14.50
THE PHILIPPINES.
00:52:14.50\00:52:15.53
I'M TAKING
PEOPLE TO JOHANNESBURG.
00:52:15.53\00:52:19.80
I TRY TO TAKE PEOPLE WITH
ME SO THEY'LL SEE THE FIRE AND
00:52:19.80\00:52:23.86
THEY'LL GET SOME FIRE INSIDE.
00:52:23.86\00:52:25.76
AND IF THEY GET SOME
FIRE INSIDE, WHEN THEY GO BACK
00:52:25.76\00:52:28.20
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO
LIGHT SOME OTHER FIRES.
00:52:28.20\00:52:31.50
>> I WANT TO TALK FOR A MOMENT
BECAUSE YOU MADE REFERENCE
00:52:31.50\00:52:33.63
TO JOHANNESBURG.
00:52:33.63\00:52:34.76
AND AGAIN I WANT TO
SHOW THIS TO OUR VIEWERS THAT
00:52:34.76\00:52:37.83
THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP.
00:52:37.83\00:52:39.13
>> YES, IT IS.
00:52:39.13\00:52:40.20
>> AND I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THIS AND THE POSSIBILITIES
00:52:40.20\00:52:43.10
FOR JUST A MOMENT.
00:52:43.10\00:52:45.13
JOHANNESBURG.
00:52:45.13\00:52:46.56
THIS IS ONE OF THE FLIERS
THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE.
00:52:46.56\00:52:49.86
>> FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND OF THOSE.
00:52:49.86\00:52:52.16
>> LOOK AT THIS GOOD
LOOKING GUY ON THE BACK.
00:52:52.16\00:52:54.23
>> OH YEAH, YEAH.
00:52:54.23\00:52:55.50
>> THEY'RE GIVING A PREVIEW
OF WHO THEY'RE GOING TO SEE.
00:52:55.50\00:52:58.00
>> HIS GOOD
LOOKING DAYS ARE OVER.
00:52:58.00\00:53:00.10
SOMEBODY SAID THIS.
00:53:00.10\00:53:01.20
"TIME MIGHT BE A GREAT
HEALER, BUT IT'S NOT A GREAT
00:53:01.20\00:53:03.13
BEAUTIFIER."
00:53:03.13\00:53:05.66
>> I'LL LET THAT GO.
00:53:05.66\00:53:06.80
>> OKAY.
00:53:06.80\00:53:08.03
>> BECAUSE WHAT IS INTRIGUING
TO ME IS THE TOPICS THAT YOU'RE
00:53:08.03\00:53:12.66
GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
AND WHAT THESE ARE GOING TO MEAN
00:53:12.66\00:53:15.83
TO THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH AFRICA.
00:53:15.83\00:53:17.66
"AMAZING DISCOVERIES IN
LOST CITIES OF THE DEAD."
00:53:17.66\00:53:21.13
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
00:53:21.13\00:53:22.36
>> THAT'S ON THE LAND
OF EGYPT, THE PROPHECIES.
00:53:22.36\00:53:26.06
IT'S ABOUT QUEEN HATSHEPSUT
AND THUTMOSIS III, WHO WE THINK
00:53:26.06\00:53:30.86
WAS PROBABLY THE
PHARAOH OF THE EXODUS.
00:53:30.86\00:53:34.23
>> WHAT IS THE
SPIRITUAL SOIL IN SOUTH AFRICA?
00:53:34.23\00:53:38.73
>> WELL, I'LL HAVE
TO FIND OUT, I'D GUESS.
00:53:38.73\00:53:41.20
BUT WHEN I WAS OVER THERE
RECENTLY, PREACHING, GETTING
00:53:41.20\00:53:43.83
READY FOR THESE
MEETINGS, I FOUND THERE WAS
00:53:43.83\00:53:46.06
A GREAT RECEPTIVITY.
00:53:46.06\00:53:47.96
THE ADVERTISING PEOPLE WHO
CAME WHO WERE GOING TO PUT OUR
00:53:47.96\00:53:51.03
TELEVISION ADS ON JOHANNESBURG
TELEVISION--IN FACT, 50 MILLION
00:53:51.03\00:53:56.86
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE.
00:53:56.86\00:53:58.53
OUR ADS, WHEN THEY GO
TO AIR RIGHT ACROSS SOUTH
00:53:58.53\00:54:01.60
AFRICA--THERE WAS A
JEWISH MAN WHO WAS PRETTY MUCH
00:54:01.60\00:54:05.50
IN CHARGE OF THE GROUP.
00:54:05.50\00:54:07.00
HE STARTED ASKING ME QUESTIONS.
00:54:07.00\00:54:09.26
"WHERE DID WE COME FROM?"
00:54:09.26\00:54:10.96
HE SAID, "I DON'T
KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE.
00:54:10.96\00:54:14.16
WHERE ARE WE GOING?"
00:54:14.16\00:54:16.33
I SAID, "THIS IS
WHY WE'RE COMING.
00:54:16.33\00:54:18.56
LET ME TELL YOU A
FEW LITTLE THINGS."
00:54:18.56\00:54:20.83
HE SAID TO ME, "I'LL BE THERE."
00:54:20.83\00:54:23.53
THE REST OF HIS STAFF
SAID, "WE'LL BE THERE.
00:54:23.53\00:54:26.63
WE WANT TO KNOW
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW."
00:54:26.63\00:54:32.63
SO MANY PEOPLE
TODAY ARE AIMLESS.
00:54:32.63\00:54:36.30
THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS
TO THE BIG QUESTIONS OF LIFE.
00:54:36.30\00:54:41.30
MY ORIGIN,
WHERE DID I COME FROM?
00:54:41.30\00:54:43.46
WHO AM I?
00:54:43.46\00:54:44.76
AM I SIMPLY A THING?
00:54:44.76\00:54:47.10
AM I AN ANIMAL?
00:54:47.10\00:54:48.56
THAT'S WHAT THE
COMMUNISTS TOLD THEM.
00:54:48.56\00:54:50.70
I USED TO PREACH IN
RUSSIA AND SHOUTED OUT, WHEN I
00:54:50.70\00:54:53.46
PREACHED ON THE CREATION,
"YOU ARE NOT AN ANIMAL.
00:54:53.46\00:54:56.13
YOU ARE NOT A MACHINE.
00:54:56.13\00:54:57.60
YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD.
00:54:57.60\00:55:00.06
YOU'RE NOT A THING.
00:55:00.06\00:55:01.03
GOD LOVES YOU.
00:55:01.03\00:55:02.80
EVERY PERSON HERE IS
DISTINCT AND GLORIOUS.
00:55:02.80\00:55:05.80
YOU WERE MADE IN
THE IMAGE OF GOD.
00:55:05.80\00:55:08.00
YOU ARE UNSPEAKABLY IMPORTANT."
00:55:08.00\00:55:11.36
THAT'S WHAT I SAY TO EVERY
PERSON WATCHING THE TELEVISION
00:55:11.36\00:55:13.36
PROGRAM.
00:55:13.36\00:55:14.23
YOU ARE UNSPEAKABLY IMPORTANT.
00:55:14.23\00:55:16.83
AND SO THAT'S
WHERE WE CAME FROM.
00:55:16.83\00:55:19.86
WHY ARE WE HERE?
00:55:19.86\00:55:21.00
WE HAVE A PURPOSE.
00:55:21.00\00:55:22.20
WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:55:22.20\00:55:23.23
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
00:55:23.23\00:55:25.90
I PICKED UP A MAGAZINE IN
NEW YORK AND IT SHOWED A BIG
00:55:25.90\00:55:29.86
ESCALATOR, THE HUMAN RACE
STARTING OFF AS NOTHING AND
00:55:29.86\00:55:32.33
THEN BECOMING A PRINCE AND
A PHARAOH AND 20TH CENTURY,
00:55:32.33\00:55:36.23
21ST CENTURY MAN
AND WALL STREET-ER
00:55:36.23\00:55:39.06
AND ALL THE REST OF IT.
00:55:39.06\00:55:40.30
AND THEN AT THE END OF
THE ESCALATOR, IT HAD A CLIFF.
00:55:40.30\00:55:43.83
EVERYBODY WAS
FALLING OFF INTO OBLIVION.
00:55:43.83\00:55:46.60
THAT'S WHAT THIS
MAGAZINE WAS--I THINK IT WAS
00:55:46.60\00:55:48.90
THE NEW YORKER.
00:55:48.90\00:55:50.03
I MAY BE WRONG.
00:55:50.03\00:55:52.33
BUT WE DON'T GO OVER THE CLIFF.
00:55:52.33\00:55:54.96
IF WE CAN GET TO KNOW THE
CREATOR GOD, WE'RE NOT GOING
00:55:54.96\00:55:57.80
TO GO OVER THE CLIFF.
00:55:57.80\00:55:59.36
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PARADISE.
00:55:59.36\00:56:01.23
>> AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE
PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN
00:56:01.23\00:56:04.00
YOU IN DOING SOMETHING AND
IN ACCOMPLISHING A GREAT WORK
00:56:04.00\00:56:07.53
IN SOUTH AFRICA.
00:56:07.53\00:56:09.46
I KNOW YOU LOVE TO GET
LETTERS FROM THOSE WHO WATCH.
00:56:09.46\00:56:12.56
YOU LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME
AND BE A PARTNER WITH YOU IN
00:56:12.56\00:56:16.06
THIS MINISTRY AND THEY
CAN DO SO BY WRITING HERE TO
00:56:16.06\00:56:20.30
THE CARTER REPORT.
00:56:20.30\00:56:21.96
THE ADDRESS IS P.O. BOX
1900, THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA.
00:56:21.96\00:56:29.23
AND THE ZIP CODE IS 91358.
00:56:29.23\00:56:33.53
IN AUSTRALIA, YOU CAN WRITE
TO THE CARTER REPORT, TERRIGAL,
00:56:33.53\00:56:40.10
NEW SOUTH WALES.
00:56:40.10\00:56:42.10
AND WE'VE PUT THE P.O.
BOX NUMBER UP ON THE SCREEN
00:56:42.10\00:56:45.20
FOR YOU.
00:56:45.20\00:56:46.53
JOHN, THIS HAS
BEEN A GREAT VISIT.
00:56:46.53\00:56:48.76
THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SHARING YOUR HEART.
00:56:48.76\00:56:50.60
>> THANK YOU.
00:56:50.60\00:56:51.56
THANK YOU.
00:56:51.56\00:56:52.43
>> THANK YOU FOR
WATCHING AND JOINING US HERE
00:56:52.43\00:56:54.40
ON "THE CARTER REPORT."
00:56:54.40\00:56:55.30
JOIN US AGAIN.
00:56:55.30\00:56:58.06
[MUSIC]
00:56:59.23\00:57:03.83
? WHEN I TRUST,
? ? IF I TRUST, ?
00:57:08.30\00:57:11.36
? I'LL SEE YOUR HAND ?
? GUIDING ME PERFECTLY ?
00:57:11.36\00:57:17.40
? INTO YOUR PURPOSE. ? ? I
WILL BELIEVE IN YOUR WORD. ?
00:57:17.40\00:57:27.66
? PROMISES THAT YOU
GIVE ? ? ANCHOR MY HEART. ?
00:57:27.66\00:57:33.06
? WHEN I TRUST, YES I'LL
TRUST ? ? I'M IN YOUR KEEPING. ?
00:57:33.06\00:57:39.40
? TEACH ME TO FOLLOW MY
HEART ? ? TO YOUR HEART. ?
00:57:39.40\00:57:48.96
? WHEN I FOLLOW MY HEART, ?
? WHEN I FOLLOW MY DREAMS ??
00:57:48.96\00:57:59.70