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>> FROM ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA,
"THE CARTER REPORT" PRESENTS
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THE LIVING WORD
AROUND THE WORLD.
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>> HELLO, I'M DAVE DENO AND
THIS IS "THE CARTER REPORT."
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TODAY WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL
OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT IS TO GO
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BEHIND THE SCENES OF THIS
PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE WATCHED
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FOR SO MANY YEARS.
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU WHAT
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I KNOW ONE PERSON HAS CALLED
THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD.
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I PREFER TO CALL IT,
"FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT."
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AND THAT IS SIMPLY WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY
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TO TALK WITH JOHN
CARTER ABOUT HIMSELF.
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HE DOESN'T NORMALLY LIKE TO DO
THAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
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LIKE TO KNOW HOW DID YOU
GET STARTED IN THE MINISTRY,
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WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF MINISTRY?
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SO STAY TUNED AS
WE MEET JOHN CARTER.
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>> HELLO, I'M DAVE
DENO FOR JOHN CARTER
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AND "THE CARTER REPORT,"
HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE
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A PART OF THIS MINISTRY,
TO BE A PARTNER IN THIS
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MINISTRY, TO KNOW
THE JOY OF GIVING.
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GOD'S WORD TELLS US THAT IT
IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO
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RECEIVE AND I BELIEVE THAT
IT IS MORE JOYFUL TO GIVE THAN
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TO RECEIVE.
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BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU WILL
KNOW THIS IS TO DO IT YOURSELF,
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TO COME AND JOIN US IN THIS
WONDERFUL MINISTRY OF BRINGING
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THE GOSPEL TO HUNDREDS,
THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS,
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HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
IN AREAS AROUND THE WORLD THAT
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PERHAPS YOU AND I MAY
NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO TRAVEL TO.
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THIS IS A WAY THAT YOU
CAN SUPPORT THE PREACHING OF
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THE GOSPEL, THAT YOU CAN
SUPPORT NEW LIVES IN CHRIST.
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NOW WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR
YOUR PARTICIPATION AND WE WANT
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TO SHOW YOU THAT APPRECIATION
BY SENDING SOMETHING BACK
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TO YOU TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT.
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ONE WOULD BE A
TERRIFIC BOOK THAT IS WRITTEN
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BY JOHN CARTER CALLED
"THE FATE OF THE HEATHEN."
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NOW THIS IS A GREAT BOOK, NOT
ONLY FOR YOU TO READ, BUT ALSO
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TO SHARE WITH FAMILY
MEMBERS AND WITH FRIENDS.
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IT'S VERY DIRECT,
VERY TO THE POINT.
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AND THEN ANOTHER BOOK THAT
JOHN'S A LITTLE SHY ABOUT IS
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THE HISTORY OF JOHN
CARTER AND "THE CARTER REPORT."
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YOU CAN SEND YOUR GIFT
TO THE CARTER REPORT AT
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P.O. BOX 1900, THOUSAND
OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 91358.
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IN AUSTRALIA, YOU CAN SEND
IT TO TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES,
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AND THE BOX IS ON THE SCREEN.
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I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE
A PART OF THIS MINISTRY.
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WRITE TO US AGAIN AT
THE CARTER REPORT, BOX 1900,
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THOUSAND OAKS,
CALIFORNIA, 91358.
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AND IN AUSTRALIA, AT
TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES.
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AGAIN, THE BOX
NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN.
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THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING A PART OF THIS MINISTRY.
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>> LET'S JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
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PASTOR CARTER, IT IS SO GREAT
TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU
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AND TO TALK ABOUT YOUR LIFE.
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LET'S BEGIN WITH "THE
CARTER REPORT" ITSELF.
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HOW DID THIS BEGIN?
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>> DAVE, YEARS AGO,
IN AUSTRALIA--I WAS BORN
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AND BRED IN AUSTRALIA.
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WE WANTED TO REACH
SECULAR PEOPLE BECAUSE AUSTRALIA
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IS NOT A CHURCHY SOCIETY.
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AMERICA IS A VERY RELIGIOUS
SOCIETY, BUT ON THE WHOLE,
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AUSTRALIANS ARE NOT
PARTICULARLY CHURCHY PEOPLE.
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AND WE WONDERED, "HOW CAN
WE REACH SECULAR PEOPLE WITH
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THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST?"
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AND SO WE HAD A LITTLE
THINK TANK IN A LITTLE TOWN IN
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NEW SOUTH WALES CALLED ALBURY.
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AND WE GOT SOME MEDIA PEOPLE
TOGETHER, CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, AND
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WE BRAINSTORMED FOR A FEW DAYS.
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PHIL WARD WAS THERE.
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WARREN JUDD WAS THERE.
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AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE TITLE
"THE CARTER REPORT" BECAUSE
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THIS SOUNDED LIKE SOMETHING
THAT WAS A NEWS PROGRAM,
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SOMETHING WHICH WAS NOT
OVERTLY IN-YOUR-FACE RELIGIOUS.
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THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
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>> WHEN DID YOU
GO INTO THE MINISTRY?
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LET'S TAKE IT BACK EVEN FURTHER.
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>> OH, THAT'S GOING
BACK TO THE DARK AGES.
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[LAUGHING] >> I
GRADUATED FROM AVONDALE
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COLLEGE IN THE END OF 1961,
SORT OF BEFORE YOU WERE BORN,
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DAVE.
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BUT I WENT INTO THE
MINISTRY IN--BEGINNING OF 1962.
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BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
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>> AND "THE CARTER REPORT"
ITSELF, TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT
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ABOUT THE VERY BEGINNING
STAGES, WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH
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TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
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>> WELL, AS I MENTIONED,
OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO COME UP WITH
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AN APPROACH THAT WOULD BE
NOT OFFENSIVE TO SECULAR PEOPLE.
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PHIL WARD SAID TO ME MANY YEARS
AGO, "IF YOU BRING PEOPLE INTO
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A MEETING IN AUSTRALIA
AND THEY SEE THAT IT'S OVERTLY
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RELIGIOUS, YOU KNOW, THEY
THINK YOU'RE A BIBLE BANGER."
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AND WITH MANY AUSTRALIANS, AND
MANY PEOPLE TODAY IN AMERICA,
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RELIGION DOESN'T HAVE
SUCH GOOD CONNOTATIONS.
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TAKE THE SCANDALS THAT
HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CHURCHES,
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PARTICULARLY IN ONE
GREAT CHURCH, THE TERRIBLE
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PEDOPHILE SCANDALS.
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AND SO RELIGION
TURNS A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.
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AND SO, A GROUP OF US GOT
TOGETHER AND WE CAME UP WITH
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THE IDEA THAT WE
WOULD SPECIALIZE IN BIBLICAL
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ARCHAEOLOGY, WITH A POPULAR
TWIST TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE
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BIBLE, AND THEN FROM
THE BIBLE TO CHRIST HIMSELF.
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>> YOU KNOW, ARCHAEOLOGY IS A
TOPIC THAT REALLY CROSSES OVER
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A LOT OF DIFFERENT
LIFESTYLES AND INTERESTS.
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PEOPLE LOVE ARCHAEOLOGY.
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IT'S A GREAT WAY TO ENGAGE
THEM AND TO BRING THEM BACK
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TO GOD'S WORD, ISN'T IT?
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>> THAT'S WHY YOU
GOT THE HISTORY CHANNEL,
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NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC.
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LOT OF THIS
STUFF IS ARCHAEOLOGY.
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>> SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT
YOU COVER, WOULD YOU GIVE US
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AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THEM?
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>> YES, WE WILL PUT ON SUBJECTS
LIKE AMAZING DISCOVERIES
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IN LOST CITIES OF THE DEAD.
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THAT'S ON THE PHARAOHS
AND EGYPT AND THE PROPHECIES
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ABOUT EGYPT.
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MORE RECENTLY, IT
TALKS ABOUT QUEEN HATSHEPSUT.
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SHE WAS JUST DISCOVERED,
YOU KNOW, BY DR. HAWASS, WHOM I
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SPENT SOME TIME WITH IN EGYPT.
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AND JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO,
HE DISCOVERED QUEEN HATSHEPSUT.
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AND IF DR. RANDY YOUNKER OF
ANDREWS UNIVERSITY IS RIGHT,
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AS WELL AS THE
GREAT DR. SIEGFRIED HORN,
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THIS COULD VERY WELL BE
THE PRINCESS WHO WENT DOWN TO
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THE RIVER NILE AND HEARD THE
BABY CRYING AND SHE BECAME HIS
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FOSTER MOTHER.
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SO IT'S QUITE AN AMAZING STORY.
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SO WE OPEN ON THE
AMAZING DISCOVERIES IN THE LAND
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OF EGYPT AS IT
RELATES TO THE BIBLE.
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AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY
SEEN, DAVE, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
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COME THROUGH THE
DOORS TO OUR PROGRAMS.
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AND SO MANY OF THOSE
PEOPLE WERE SECULAR UNBELIEVERS,
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COMMUNISTS, AND ATHEISTS, BUT
ENDED UP BELIEVING IN THE BIBLE
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AND GIVING
THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST.
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SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT
ROAD TO CHRIST, ESPECIALLY PAVED
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FOR SECULAR PEOPLE.
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>> JOHN, YOU'VE TAKEN THIS
ROAD AND TRAVELED THIS LITERALLY
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AROUND THE WORLD.
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>> YES.
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>> YOU HAVE BEEN TO SO
MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
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SOME OF THE COUNTRIES,
WHAT--NAME A FEW OF THEM.
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>> BEFORE I ANSWER
THAT, DAVE, I WOULD SAY THIS.
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I DID NOT
ORIGINATE THIS APPROACH.
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OTHERS WENT BEFORE ME AND TRIED
THIS APPROACH IN AUSTRALIA,
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LIKE JOHN COLTHART,
GEORGE BURNSIDE, SOME GREAT
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PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
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BUT WE WORKED
ON IT A LITTLE BIT.
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WE DEVELOPED IT A LITTLE BIT.
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AND WE DEVELOPED
IT FOR TELEVISION.
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AND WE WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE,
I THINK, IN THE WORLD TO PRODUCE
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RELIGIOUS TELEVISION ADS.
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WE DID THIS
MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
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WE DID THIS WITH
BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY.
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NOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
WE'VE USED THIS APPROACH
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IN RUSSIA.
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ALMOST A COMPLETELY SECULAR
SOCIETY WHEN WE WENT THERE
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IN 1991.
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WE SAW THE
POWER OF GOD REVEALED.
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WE SAW MILLIONS OF
RUSSIANS COME TO THE MEETINGS.
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WE SAW HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS COME TO CHRIST.
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WE USED IT IN UKRAINE,
WHICH IS SIMILAR TO RUSSIA.
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IN KIEV, WE SAW 100,000
PEOPLE NOT GET INTO THE HALL.
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>> WERE YOU NOT ONE OF THE
FIRST EVANGELISTS TO BE ABLE TO
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GAIN ACCESS TO THIS PORTION
OF THE WORLD AFTER THE FALL
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OF THE SOVIET UNION?
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>> EVEN WHEN THE SOVIET UNION
WAS STILL ALIVE, BUT AILING,
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BACK IN 1991, WE CONDUCTED
WHAT SOME PEOPLE TOLD US WAS
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THE FIRST EVER EVANGELISTIC
CAMPAIGN IN THE SOVIET UNION.
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AND WE CONDUCTED CAMPAIGNS
EVERY YEAR UNTIL LAST YEAR.
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WE'VE STILL BEEN RUNNING
CAMPAIGNS THERE EVERY YEAR.
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>> WHAT ABOUT THE
ACCEPTANCE OF THE MESSAGE?
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I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY.
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YOU'VE TRAVELED
ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
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CAN YOU COMPARE THE ACCEPTANCE
OF THOSE MESSAGES IN DIFFERENT
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PARTS OF THE WORLD TO
ACCEPTANCE HERE IN AMERICA?
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>> IN RUSSIA AND
UKRAINE, IT WAS A SENSATION.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE WERE
IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT
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TIME AND WE SAW MASSIVE CROWDS
OF PEOPLE, RECORD BREAKING
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CROWDS OF PEOPLE.
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WE SAW THIS ALSO IN INDIA,
30,000 PEOPLE COMING FORWARD TO
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ACCEPT CHRIST IN AN
ALTAR CALL, HINDUS AND MOSLEMS.
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WE SAW THE SAME
RESPONSE IN AFRICA.
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WE'RE GOING BACK TO
AFRICA IN A FEW WEEKS' TIME.
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WE SAW GREAT SUCCESS IN SYDNEY,
WHICH IS A GREAT CITY, BUT
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ENTIRELY--NO, NOT ENTIRELY
SECULAR, BUT VERY SECULAR.
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TWENTY-THOUSAND PEOPLE
AT THE SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE.
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A BIG CROWD, A
HUGE CROWD IN MELBOURNE.
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SOME SAY, DAVE, THESE
WERE THE BIGGEST SECULAR CROWDS
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ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
IN RELIGIOUS MEETINGS.
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NOW IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA,
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WE SAW 24,000 PEOPLE
AT THE SHRINE AUDITORIUM,
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DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES.
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NOW IT'S NOT EASY ON THE L.A.
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FREEWAYS TO GET DOWNTOWN
TO THE SHRINE AUDITORIUM.
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I BELIEVE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WILL ACCEPT THIS APPROACH ALSO,
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BUT AMERICA DOESN'T
QUITE HAVE THE CHALLENGES OF
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SO MUCH SECULARISM.
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IN MANY PARTS OF AMERICA, IT IS
BECOMING SECULAR, BUT PEOPLE IN
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AMERICA ARE MORE RELIGIOUS
THAN PEOPLE ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE
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FACE OF THE EARTH, AS WE KNOW.
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>> YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF
AMERICA, AND YOU MENTIONED
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INDIA, AND 30,000 HINDU
AND MOSLEMS COMING TO CHRIST--
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>> IN AN ALTAR CALL.
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>> IN AN ALTAR CALL.
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THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT
THAN A PERSON RESPONDING
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TO AN ALTAR CALL IN AMERICA.
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HERE, WE CAN DO THAT FREELY.
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THERE, IT COULD BE A
DANGER TO THEIR LIVES.
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>> YES, IT WAS, INDEED.
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BECAUSE AS I WOULD BE
PREACHING, DAVE, I WOULD HEAR
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THE CALL OF THE MOSLEM PREACHER
BECAUSE THERE WAS A MOSLEM
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MOSQUE A COUPLE HUNDRED YARDS
FROM WHERE WE WERE PREACHING.
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WE SUFFERED--OR
RATHER, WE DIDN'T SUFFER.
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WE EXPERIENCED
TREMENDOUS OPPOSITION IN INDIA.
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THEY DON'T HAVE THE RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY THAT WE HAVE IN THIS
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PART OF THE WORLD.
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AND YOU HAVE EXTREME RELIGIOUS
GROUPS, WHO ARE UTTERLY OPPOSED
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TO THE BIBLE AND CHRIST AND
THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL.
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BUT IN SPITE OF THAT,
PEOPLE TOLD US, "NO ONE'S GOING
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TO COME."
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THEY'VE TOLD US THAT
EVERYWHERE OF COURSE.
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YOU GET PEOPLE WHO SAY
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME.
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THEN THEY SAY
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STAY.
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AND IF YOU BAPTIZE THEM,
IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY
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DIFFERENCE TO THEM.
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BUT IN INDIA, WE SAW
MASSIVE CROWDS OF PEOPLE COMING.
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AND THESE FOLKS
WERE HINDUS AND MOSLEMS.
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SO I BELIEVE THAT THE POWER
OF GOD IS STILL AVAILABLE TODAY.
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I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS ALIVE
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE GREATEST
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TIME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
IS NOT YESTERDAY OR TOMORROW.
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I BELIEVE IT'S NOW.
00:12:45.20\00:12:46.90
>> JOHN, I'M GOING TO ASK
YOU THE DANGEROUS QUESTION.
00:12:46.90\00:12:50.46
AND THAT IS WHY ARE SO
MANY AMERICANS INDIFFERENT TO
00:12:50.46\00:12:55.36
THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL?
00:12:55.36\00:12:57.50
>> SIMPLE.
00:12:57.50\00:12:58.70
PROSPERITY, WEALTH, RICHES.
00:12:58.70\00:13:01.70
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THE BRIGHT
LIGHTS OF THE WORLD IN THEIR
00:13:01.70\00:13:03.93
EYES, THEY CAN'T SEE CHRIST.
00:13:03.93\00:13:06.56
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NEED.
00:13:06.56\00:13:07.70
THE BIBLE SAYS, "RICH
AND INCREASED WITH GOODS
00:13:07.70\00:13:10.76
AND IN NEED OF NOTHING."
00:13:10.76\00:13:13.63
IT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN POOR
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY REACH
00:13:13.63\00:13:18.43
OUT FOR CHRIST.
00:13:18.43\00:13:20.10
YOU COULDN'T GET A SEAT IN THIS
GREAT CHURCH HERE IN ARCADIA,
00:13:20.10\00:13:24.26
THE CHURCH AT WHICH I'M
THE PASTOR, THE WEEK AFTER 9/11
00:13:24.26\00:13:29.40
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAD A NEED.
00:13:29.40\00:13:30.90
SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAD HAPPENED
AND THEIR SECURITY HAD BEEN
00:13:30.90\00:13:33.80
BLOWN AWAY.
00:13:33.80\00:13:36.13
THEY WERE FEARFUL AND THEY
WERE AFRAID AND THEY WANTED
00:13:36.13\00:13:38.86
TO COME TO CHURCH.
00:13:38.86\00:13:40.73
BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE FULL OF
MONEY AND THEY'VE GOT MARVELOUS
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HOMES AND EVERYTHING IS GOING
WELL, THEY'VE GOT HEAVEN NOW.
00:13:46.03\00:13:50.70
AND THIS IS NOT ONLY SO HERE
IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
00:13:50.70\00:13:54.06
IT'S TREMENDOUSLY SO IN
AUSTRALIA, WHICH IS A VERY
00:13:54.06\00:13:57.30
AFFLUENT COUNTRY.
00:13:57.30\00:13:59.26
AND THE UNITED KINGDOM
AND WESTERN EUROPE, AND TODAY
00:13:59.26\00:14:04.00
RUSSIA.
00:14:04.00\00:14:05.46
LAST YEAR, WE RAN A
CAMPAIGN IN VOLGOGRAD.
00:14:05.46\00:14:09.80
IT USED TO BE THE
CITY OF STALINGRAD.
00:14:09.80\00:14:12.80
IT SAW THE GREATEST BATTLE
POSSIBLY IN THE HISTORY OF
00:14:12.80\00:14:15.70
THE HUMAN RACE, WITH UP
TO 3 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED,
00:14:15.70\00:14:20.00
GERMANS AND RUSSIANS.
00:14:20.00\00:14:22.90
BEFORE WE WENT TO VOLGOGRAD,
I ASKED ONE OF THE PASTORS
00:14:22.90\00:14:25.60
OVER THERE, "WHAT
ARE CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE?"
00:14:25.60\00:14:30.56
OH, HE SAID, "THE
PEOPLE ARE VERY POOR."
00:14:30.56\00:14:33.13
WELL, HE OBVIOUSLY
HADN'T BEEN THERE, DAVE.
00:14:33.13\00:14:36.70
WE WENT THERE AND WE FOUND MANY
OF THE PEOPLE WERE VERY, VERY
00:14:36.70\00:14:39.76
WEALTHY.
00:14:39.76\00:14:42.23
IF YOU GOT RUN OVER ON
THE ROAD, YOU GOT RUN OVER
00:14:42.23\00:14:44.10
BY A BMW OR A MERCEDES.
00:14:44.10\00:14:46.10
THIS IS RUSSIA.
00:14:46.10\00:14:47.60
AND THE WOMEN IN
THE LATEST FASHIONS.
00:14:47.60\00:14:50.90
AND SO IT WAS
HARD PREACHING TO THEM.
00:14:50.90\00:14:54.33
I'VE NEVER PREACHED TO
A TOUGHER AUDIENCE THAN
00:14:54.33\00:14:56.83
THE RUSSIANS IN VOLGOGRAD.
00:14:56.83\00:14:59.10
IT WAS OUR BIGGEST BATTLE.
00:14:59.10\00:15:01.23
COMPARE THAT WITH 1992
IN NIZHNY NOVGOROD OR GORKY
00:15:01.23\00:15:07.76
IN RUSSIA, WHERE WE HAD
FOR THE OPENING TWO MEETINGS
00:15:07.76\00:15:14.03
OR THE OPENING WEEKEND,
30,000 OR 40,000 PEOPLE.
00:15:14.03\00:15:16.66
>> WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
00:15:16.66\00:15:17.63
>> THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE TURNED AWAY.
00:15:17.63\00:15:19.70
IN THOSE DAYS, WE HAD TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
00:15:19.70\00:15:23.20
WE WERE RUNNING
TWO SESSIONS A DAY.
00:15:23.20\00:15:25.30
WE HAD TO GO TO
THREE SESSIONS A DAY.
00:15:25.30\00:15:27.46
AND THE PEOPLE WERE
POOR, POOR IN SPIRIT AND POOR
00:15:27.46\00:15:31.70
IN MATERIAL GOODS.
00:15:31.70\00:15:33.93
BUT THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA
TODAY IS THAT WE'RE TOO WEALTHY
00:15:33.93\00:15:37.70
AND TOO SELF-SATISFIED.
00:15:37.70\00:15:39.93
>> SCRIPTURE GIVES US A WARNING
ABOUT THAT, TALKING ABOUT HOW
00:15:39.93\00:15:42.30
HARD IT IS FOR A
RICH MAN TO COME TO GOD.
00:15:42.30\00:15:45.76
>> YES, YES.
00:15:45.76\00:15:47.30
>> HARDER THAN A CAMEL GOING
THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE.
00:15:47.30\00:15:49.96
>> AND I IMAGINE THAT WOULD
BE TOUGH FOR A CAMEL TO GET
00:15:49.96\00:15:52.40
THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE.
00:15:52.40\00:15:53.56
>> WE FORGET THAT SCRIPTURE
ALSO SAYS, AND IT'S KIND OF A
00:15:53.56\00:15:57.06
QUESTION, RHETORICAL QUESTION,
"WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU DID
00:15:57.06\00:16:00.93
NOT RECEIVE FROM GOD?"
00:16:00.93\00:16:03.16
IT'S SO EASY TO FORGET THAT
WHEN WE RECEIVE THE BLESSING.
00:16:03.16\00:16:08.83
>> THAT'S TRUE.
00:16:08.83\00:16:10.06
>> THERE'S A QUESTION THAT
SO MANY CHRISTIANS WRESTLE WITH
00:16:10.06\00:16:13.80
AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
00:16:13.80\00:16:16.23
BECAUSE IT RELATES BACK TO
OUR FAITH, OUR AWARENESS OF THE
00:16:16.23\00:16:19.90
LORD, OUR DEPENDENCE UPON
HIM, OUR REVERENCE FOR HIM.
00:16:19.90\00:16:25.90
MANY, MANY CHRISTIANS WOULD
BE HARD PRESSED TO ANSWER THE
00:16:25.90\00:16:28.60
QUESTION, "CAN YOU ACTUALLY
PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD?"
00:16:28.60\00:16:35.53
>> AS YOU WOULD KNOW, DAVE,
PHILOSOPHICALLY YOU CAN'T PROVE
00:16:35.53\00:16:38.70
ANYTHING.
00:16:38.70\00:16:40.53
PHILOSOPHICALLY, YOU CAN'T EVEN
PROVE THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE
00:16:40.53\00:16:43.46
AT THIS TABLE.
00:16:43.46\00:16:45.10
WE MAY BE DELUDED.
00:16:45.10\00:16:46.83
WE'RE TAKING IN INFORMATION
THROUGH OUR EYES AND IT'S GOING
00:16:46.83\00:16:50.96
TO OUR BRAINS, BUT OUR BRAINS
ARE IMPERFECT, SO OUR KNOWLEDGE
00:16:50.96\00:16:54.60
IS IMPERFECT.
00:16:54.60\00:16:56.00
BUT IF WE'RE USING PROOF IN
THE SENSE OF EVIDENCE, THERE'S
00:16:56.00\00:17:03.03
TREMENDOUS EVIDENCE FOR GOD,
EVIDENCE FROM BIBLE PROPHECY.
00:17:03.03\00:17:09.30
THE HISTORICITY OF THE BIBLE,
I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
00:17:09.30\00:17:15.66
DAVE, TREMENDOUS
EVIDENCE TODAY FROM ASTRONOMY.
00:17:15.66\00:17:21.03
AMAZING STUFF THAT WE'VE GOT
TODAY ON ASTRONOMY, ON HOW, AT
00:17:21.03\00:17:28.03
THE VERY BEGINNING OF CREATION,
ASTRONOMERS TODAY BELIEVE NOW
00:17:28.03\00:17:32.73
THAT GENESIS 1:1 IS TRUE.
00:17:32.73\00:17:35.33
THERE WAS A
BEGINNING TO THE UNIVERSE.
00:17:35.33\00:17:37.56
ONCE UPON A TIME, ASTRONOMERS
BELIEVED IN THE STEADY STATE
00:17:37.56\00:17:40.43
THEORY THAT THERE'D NEVER BEEN
A BEGINNING, AND CONSEQUENTLY
00:17:40.43\00:17:44.93
WOULD NEVER BE AN ENDING.
00:17:44.93\00:17:47.83
BUT NOW VIRTUALLY EVERY
ASTRONOMER BELIEVES--THEY CALL
00:17:47.83\00:17:51.13
IT THE BIG BANG, THAT SO MANY
YEARS AGO THERE WAS NOTHING AND
00:17:51.13\00:17:56.16
THEN THERE WAS A
TREMENDOUS BANG AND THE UNIVERSE
00:17:56.16\00:17:59.36
CAME INTO BEING.
00:17:59.36\00:18:01.60
NOW THEY'VE DISCOVERED THIS.
00:18:01.60\00:18:05.00
A MILLISECOND AFTER THE MOMENT
OF CREATION, THERE WERE FOUR
00:18:05.00\00:18:08.80
FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE.
00:18:08.80\00:18:11.83
AND IF THOSE FORCES
HAD BEEN OUT OF SYNC
00:18:11.83\00:18:15.96
BY ONE QUADRILLIONTH
OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH
00:18:15.96\00:18:20.20
OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH
OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH
00:18:20.20\00:18:23.53
OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH OF
1%, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
00:18:23.53\00:18:32.03
THERE'S GOT TO BE
SOMEBODY BEHIND ALL OF THIS.
00:18:32.03\00:18:36.36
I BELIEVE TODAY THAT WE CAN
GIVE TO HONEST SEEKERS OF THE
00:18:36.36\00:18:39.96
TRUTH OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE WHY
THEY CAN BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE,
00:18:39.96\00:18:44.26
WHY THEY CAN BELIEVE IN GOD,
AND WHY WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE
00:18:44.26\00:18:49.56
CAME FROM, WHY WE ARE
HERE, AND WHERE WE ARE GOING.
00:18:49.56\00:18:54.63
THAT'S THE THEME OF MY MEETINGS.
00:18:54.63\00:18:57.00
>> THE CHALLENGE IS
TO GET THEM TO LISTEN.
00:18:57.00\00:18:59.50
>> YES.
00:18:59.50\00:19:00.60
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE
ARCHAEOLOGY AND ADVERTISE
00:19:00.60\00:19:05.00
THE MEETING ON
TELEVISION AND ON RADIO.
00:19:05.00\00:19:09.96
WHEN WE GO TO AFRICA
SOON, WE'RE GOING TO BOMBARD
00:19:09.96\00:19:14.53
THE TELEVISION.
00:19:14.53\00:19:17.80
IT'S GOING TO BE BOMBARDED.
00:19:17.80\00:19:19.06
AND THE RADIO IS GOING TO
BE BOMBARDED SO THAT WE CAN GET
00:19:19.06\00:19:22.70
VAST CROWDS OF PEOPLE OUT
AND LET THEM HEAR THE EVIDENCE.
00:19:22.70\00:19:27.40
>> THIS IS WHY YOU OPEN
YOUR MEETINGS IN THE WAY
00:19:27.40\00:19:29.76
THAT YOU DO.
00:19:29.76\00:19:30.90
I MEAN, IT'S A VERY
DIFFERENT TYPE OF OPENING.
00:19:30.90\00:19:32.83
>> I KNOW, BUT IT'S--
WE REACH SECULAR PEOPLE.
00:19:32.83\00:19:38.73
WHEN WE WERE IN RUSSIA, THERE
WAS A MAN FROM WASHINGTON D.C.,
00:19:38.73\00:19:43.66
WHO WAS AN AUTHORITY
ON HOW CHURCHES GROW.
00:19:43.66\00:19:49.16
HE SAID TO ME, "DO YOU REALIZE
THAT THESE ARE THE LARGEST
00:19:49.16\00:19:54.46
CROWDS OF SECULAR, UNBELIEVING
PEOPLE ANYWHERE ON THE FACE
00:19:54.46\00:20:02.03
OF THE EARTH?"
00:20:02.03\00:20:03.43
I SAID, "NO, THAT'S NOT SO."
00:20:03.43\00:20:05.16
HE SAID, "NO, WHEN WE HAVE
RELIGIOUS PROGRAMS IN AMERICA,
00:20:05.16\00:20:08.60
WHEN WE HAVE
CAMPAIGNS, 99% OF THE PEOPLE
00:20:08.60\00:20:12.06
ARE PROFESSING CHRISTIANS.
00:20:12.06\00:20:14.00
AND WE GET THEM TO
BRING THEIR FRIENDS."
00:20:14.00\00:20:16.13
I SAID, "WELL, THAT'S GREAT.
00:20:16.13\00:20:17.20
THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO."
00:20:17.20\00:20:18.36
BUT HE SAID, "OVER HERE, 99%
OF THE PEOPLE IN THESE MEETINGS
00:20:18.36\00:20:22.66
ARE UNBELIEVERS, COMMUNISTS,
ATHEISTS, BUT THEY'RE LISTENING
00:20:22.66\00:20:28.36
TO THE WORD OF GOD
FROM A DIFFERENT SLANT,
00:20:28.36\00:20:31.93
FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT."
00:20:31.93\00:20:33.46
>> LET'S FIND OUT A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT IS
00:20:33.46\00:20:36.16
SO INTERESTING TO THEM.
00:20:36.16\00:20:37.33
YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED,
AND I'VE WRITTEN IT DOWN HERE,
00:20:37.33\00:20:40.16
YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THE AMAZING
DISCOVERIES IN THE LOST CITIES
00:20:40.16\00:20:43.93
OF THE DEAD IN EGYPT.
00:20:43.93\00:20:45.33
I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER
TALK THAT YOU GIVE CALLED
00:20:45.33\00:20:47.93
"WONDER CITIES OF THE PAST."
00:20:47.93\00:20:50.06
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
00:20:50.06\00:20:51.46
>> WELL, THAT'S ABOUT SOME OF
THE WONDER CITIES OF THE PAST.
00:20:51.46\00:20:55.60
THAT'S ABOUT BABYLON AND
MEDA-PERSIA, GREECE, AND ROME,
00:20:55.60\00:20:59.36
BUT DAVE, FROM THE
VIEWPOINT OF BIBLE PROPHECY.
00:20:59.36\00:21:03.56
NOW TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND
YEARS AGO, A YOUNG KING FLUSHED
00:21:03.56\00:21:07.40
WITH SUCCESS HAD A
DREAM IN THE CITY OF DREAMS,
00:21:07.40\00:21:11.70
THE CITY OF BABYLON.
00:21:11.70\00:21:13.40
YOU KNOW HIS
NAME, NEBUCHADNEZZAR.
00:21:13.40\00:21:16.13
AND HE DREAMED ABOUT A GREAT
METAL MAN, HEAD OF GOLD, CHEST
00:21:16.13\00:21:19.00
OF SILVER, BELLY AND THIGHS
OF BRONZE, LEGS OF IRON; FEET,
00:21:19.00\00:21:22.03
PART OF IRON, PART OF CLAY.
00:21:22.03\00:21:23.50
AND THEN THERE COMES A
TREMENDOUS STONE AND IT CRASHES
00:21:23.50\00:21:26.76
INTO IT AND THE STONE
BECOMES A MOUNTAIN AND FILLS
00:21:26.76\00:21:29.80
THE WHOLE EARTH.
00:21:29.80\00:21:31.90
THAT DREAM FORETOLD THE
HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE.
00:21:31.90\00:21:38.96
AND SO WE OPEN THIS PROGRAM
BY TAKING PEOPLE TO BABYLON.
00:21:38.96\00:21:43.76
WE SHOW THEM THE WONDERS
OF THE CITY OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR.
00:21:43.76\00:21:48.10
AND THEN WE TAKE THEM INTO THE
THRONE ROOM OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR,
00:21:48.10\00:21:51.50
INTO HIS BEDROOM,
AND WE PRESENT THE DREAM.
00:21:51.50\00:21:55.33
AND WE SHOW PEOPLE THAT
THIS IS A BOOK THAT FORETELLS
00:21:55.33\00:22:00.36
THE FUTURE.
00:22:00.36\00:22:02.03
IT IS NOT AN ORDINARY BOOK.
00:22:02.03\00:22:04.63
IT IS A BOOK THAT TELLS US
WHERE WE CAME FROM, WHY WE ARE
00:22:04.63\00:22:08.80
HERE, WHERE WE ARE GOING.
00:22:08.80\00:22:11.10
IT TELLS US THAT
WE ARE NOT ZEROS.
00:22:11.10\00:22:14.63
A FRIEND OF MINE, WHO'S A
GREAT THEOLOGIAN, SAID, "IF WE
00:22:14.63\00:22:17.70
STARTED WITH A ZERO AND IF
WE END WITH A ZERO, EVERYTHING
00:22:17.70\00:22:21.33
IN BETWEEN IS A ZERO.
00:22:21.33\00:22:22.96
NOTHING COUNTS."
00:22:22.96\00:22:24.96
NOW THAT'S WHAT'S
TAUGHT AT MOST UNIVERSITIES.
00:22:24.96\00:22:30.70
THAT'S WHAT'S TAUGHT BY
VIRTUALLY EVERY PHILOSOPHER.
00:22:30.70\00:22:35.90
THIS IS THE
DOCTRINE OF RICHARD DAWKINS.
00:22:35.90\00:22:39.60
WE'VE ALL HEARD OF HIM.
00:22:39.60\00:22:41.93
BUT WE BELIEVE THERE'S EVIDENCE
TO SHOW THAT GOD MADE US AND WE
00:22:41.93\00:22:47.30
ARE SPECIAL AND MADE IN HIS
IMAGE AND THAT THIS BOOK SHOWS
00:22:47.30\00:22:51.83
US THAT JESUS IS THE
WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE.
00:22:51.83\00:22:55.20
AND ONE DAY, WE
CAN LIVE FOREVER.
00:22:55.20\00:22:57.86
AND UNTIL WE GET TO
HEAVEN, THIS LIFE CAN BE
00:22:57.86\00:23:00.90
MARVELOUSLY TRANSFORMED.
00:23:00.90\00:23:03.03
GOOD NEWS.
00:23:03.03\00:23:04.26
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
BOOK FOR A MOMENT, THE GOOD NEWS
00:23:04.26\00:23:07.23
THAT IS IN THIS BOOK.
00:23:07.23\00:23:09.43
WHAT YOU HAVE JUST STATED ABOUT
THE BIBLE, ABOUT GOD'S WORD IS
00:23:09.43\00:23:12.76
VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT THE WORLD BELIEVES ABOUT
00:23:12.76\00:23:16.03
THIS BOOK, ISN'T IT?
00:23:16.03\00:23:17.16
>> YES.
00:23:17.16\00:23:20.33
SOMEBODY SAID RECENTLY THAT
MOST PEOPLE IN THIS PART OF THE
00:23:20.33\00:23:26.50
WORLD, AND CERTAINLY IN
EUROPE AND, WELL, VIRTUALLY
00:23:26.50\00:23:31.26
EVERYWHERE, MOST PEOPLE
ARE MONUMENTALLY IGNORANT
00:23:31.26\00:23:36.50
CONCERNING WHAT
THIS BOOK IS ABOUT.
00:23:36.50\00:23:39.16
HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW
ACTUALLY KNOW THE MESSAGE OF
00:23:39.16\00:23:44.00
THIS BOOK OR
ACTUALLY READ THIS BOOK?
00:23:44.00\00:23:46.96
NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE.
00:23:46.96\00:23:48.13
AND THIS BOOK HAS BEEN EXPOSED
BY THE SCIENTISTS AS BEING
00:23:48.13\00:23:54.73
UNSCIENTIFIC,
UNRELIABLE, AND NO LONGER WORTHY
00:23:54.73\00:23:59.50
OF OUR EXPLORATION.
00:23:59.50\00:24:01.70
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS.
00:24:01.70\00:24:03.20
I BELIEVE THAT THE EVIDENCE
POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THIS
00:24:03.20\00:24:05.96
BOOK IS THE WORD OF GOD AND
IT SHOWS US HOW TO LIVE AND IT
00:24:05.96\00:24:10.96
SHOWS US WHO WE ARE.
00:24:10.96\00:24:13.00
I BELIEVE IT HAS THE
ANSWER TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.
00:24:13.00\00:24:17.10
>> JOHN, SO MANY OF US AS
CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THE WORDS
00:24:17.10\00:24:21.86
THAT YOU HAVE JUST SPOKEN, THAT
THIS BOOK SHOWS US HOW TO LIVE,
00:24:21.86\00:24:26.30
IT SHOWS US WHO WE ARE, AND YET
STILL SO MANY CHRISTIANS HAVE
00:24:26.30\00:24:30.73
A HARD TIME OPENING
THIS BOOK ON A DAILY BASIS.
00:24:30.73\00:24:34.93
DO YOU?
00:24:34.93\00:24:36.03
DO YOU OPEN THIS EVERY DAY?
00:24:36.03\00:24:38.23
>> BY THE GRACE OF GOD,
I HAVE FOR THE LAST, OH,
00:24:38.23\00:24:41.30
FOR THE LAST--LET
ME BE ACCURATE ON THIS.
00:24:41.30\00:24:45.03
FOR THE LAST 56 YEARS.
00:24:45.03\00:24:48.46
YOU KNOW WHY?
00:24:48.46\00:24:49.56
>> WHY?
00:24:49.56\00:24:50.56
>> I NEED TO.
00:24:50.56\00:24:52.23
I NEED TO.
00:24:52.23\00:24:55.36
I HAVE A SAYING.
00:24:55.36\00:24:56.43
I'M A PASTOR ALSO AND I
TELL PEOPLE, "READ YOUR BIBLE
00:24:56.43\00:25:00.16
EVERY DAY."
00:25:00.16\00:25:02.26
I SAY IT TO THEM
BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I DO.
00:25:02.26\00:25:06.40
JOHN NEWTON SAID--YOU KNOW,
HE'S THE MAN WHO--ENGLISHMAN
00:25:06.40\00:25:09.36
WHO WROTE "AMAZING GRACE."
00:25:09.36\00:25:11.53
AT THE END OF HIS
LIFE, HE SAID, "I HAVE
00:25:11.53\00:25:13.46
TWO GREAT TRUTHS."
00:25:13.46\00:25:14.40
HE SAID, "I AM A GREAT SINNER
AND JESUS IS A GREAT SAVIOR."
00:25:14.40\00:25:20.50
BUT I SAID, "I'M A GREAT SINNER.
00:25:20.50\00:25:22.93
JESUS IS A GREAT SAVIOR.
00:25:22.93\00:25:24.93
AND BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE
THAT I'M A SINNER, I NEED
00:25:24.93\00:25:28.86
THE WORD OF GOD."
00:25:28.86\00:25:30.46
JESUS SAID, "IT IS WRITTEN MAN
SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE,
00:25:30.46\00:25:34.03
BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD."
00:25:34.03\00:25:37.76
I READ IT BECAUSE I NEED TO.
00:25:37.76\00:25:41.53
>> PERHAPS FOR THOSE WHO
STRUGGLE WITH MAKING TIME IN
00:25:41.53\00:25:45.26
THEIR DAY TO OPEN GOD'S WORD,
PERHAPS SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM
00:25:45.26\00:25:49.06
YOU ON HOW TO BEGIN TO WORK
THIS INTO THEIR LIFE SO THAT IT
00:25:49.06\00:25:53.46
CAN NOT JUST BECOME A PART OF
THEIR LIFE, BUT THEIR LIFE CAN
00:25:53.46\00:25:56.76
BE IN THE BOOK AS WELL.
00:25:56.76\00:26:00.16
>> SOMEBODY SAID,
"WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GOOD
00:26:00.16\00:26:03.23
OLD WILLPOWER?"
00:26:03.23\00:26:07.16
THE PERSON MEANT THAT WE
SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
00:26:07.16\00:26:12.30
WHEN I WAS A BOY,
DAVE, I WAS TAUGHT THE TRUTH
00:26:12.30\00:26:15.00
THAT HABITS ARE FORMED.
00:26:15.00\00:26:17.46
BAD HABITS ARE FORMED
AND GOOD HABITS ARE FORMED.
00:26:17.46\00:26:21.86
AND A PERSON HAS TO DEVELOP
WILLPOWER TO FORM GOOD HABITS.
00:26:21.86\00:26:27.46
NOW WE ARE SAVED BY
FAITH ALONE, BUT THAT THE FAITH
00:26:27.46\00:26:30.63
THAT SAVES IS NEVER ALONE.
00:26:30.63\00:26:33.66
WE ARE SAVED BY FAITH
ALONE, BUT THE FAITH THAT SAVES
00:26:33.66\00:26:37.56
IS NEVER ALONE.
00:26:37.56\00:26:40.46
IT IS ACCOMPANIED BY GOOD
WORKS, THE FRUITAGE OF FAITH.
00:26:40.46\00:26:45.50
THERE'S NO SUCH THING
AS FAITH WITHOUT WORKS.
00:26:45.50\00:26:48.10
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT.
00:26:48.10\00:26:49.16
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.
00:26:49.16\00:26:51.93
NOW YOU AND I HAVE
JUST ENJOYED A MEAL.
00:26:51.93\00:26:55.73
I'VE ALSO HAD BREAKFAST TODAY.
00:26:55.73\00:26:57.76
I HAD MY ROLLED OATS AND
MY SOYA MILK AND MY ALMONDS
00:26:57.76\00:27:01.36
AND SOME FRUIT.
00:27:01.36\00:27:02.73
I DID IT BECAUSE I
NEED TO STAY ALIVE.
00:27:02.73\00:27:05.06
I NEED TO EAT.
00:27:05.06\00:27:06.70
I'VE GOT TO EAT
SO THAT I'M STRONG.
00:27:06.70\00:27:10.00
IF A PERSON WANTS TO BE
STRONG SPIRITUALLY, HE'S GOT
00:27:10.00\00:27:13.80
TO EAT THE WORD OF GOD.
00:27:13.80\00:27:17.20
IF YOU DON'T,
YOU STARVE TO DEATH.
00:27:17.20\00:27:20.30
AND THAT'S WHAT JESUS TAUGHT.
00:27:20.30\00:27:22.73
AND THERE'S POWER
IN THE WORD OF GOD.
00:27:22.73\00:27:27.53
>> THAT BEARS
REPEATING BECAUSE THAT IS--
00:27:27.53\00:27:30.30
>> THERE'S POWER
IN THE WORD OF GOD.
00:27:30.30\00:27:32.80
>> IT'S SO OFTEN FORGOTTEN.
00:27:32.80\00:27:34.66
>> I AM--I KNOW THIS IS TRUE
BECAUSE I CAN--I'VE SEEN IT.
00:27:34.66\00:27:39.93
EXPLAIN TO ME--I'M STANDING
IN FRONT OF 10,000 RUSSIANS
00:27:39.93\00:27:44.86
AT 6 O'CLOCK IN THE
EVENING AND THEY ARE ATHEISTS
00:27:44.86\00:27:48.10
AND COMMUNISTS.
00:27:48.10\00:27:49.93
AND THEY'RE SULLEN AND THEIR
HEADS ARE DOWN AND THEY WON'T
00:27:49.93\00:27:53.00
LOOK ME IN THE EYE.
00:27:53.00\00:27:55.43
AND AN HOUR LATER, AFTER THIS
WORD IS PREACHED TO THEM AND
00:27:55.43\00:27:59.76
THE TEXTS OF THE BIBLE ARE
READ WITH POWER AND AUTHORITY,
00:27:59.76\00:28:04.73
AND CHRIST IS UPHELD
AND I HAVE AN ALTAR CALL.
00:28:04.73\00:28:08.20
I'LL HAVE VIRTUALLY 10,000
PEOPLE FIGHTING TO GET DOWN THE
00:28:08.20\00:28:11.93
FRONT WITH THEIR FACES LOOKING
UP AND TEARS RUNNING DOWN
00:28:11.93\00:28:17.06
THEIR CHEEKS.
00:28:17.06\00:28:18.56
IS THAT BECAUSE OF A MAN?
00:28:18.56\00:28:20.43
NO, BECAUSE THE MAN IS A SINNER.
00:28:20.43\00:28:23.66
AND THERE'S NO
GOOD THING IN THAT MAN.
00:28:23.66\00:28:25.86
HE'S GOT NO VIRTUE.
00:28:25.86\00:28:26.96
BUT THERE'S POWER
IN THE WORD OF GOD.
00:28:26.96\00:28:29.40
I URGE PEOPLE TO
READ THE WORD OF GOD.
00:28:29.40\00:28:32.30
>> IS IT FAIR TO SAY TO THOSE
WHO--AND WE HEAR THIS SO OFTEN.
00:28:32.30\00:28:36.86
"I WANT TO KNOW
GOD'S WILL FOR MY LIFE."
00:28:36.86\00:28:39.90
IS IT FAIR TO SAY, "WELL,
PROBABLY THE FIRST POINT OF
00:28:39.90\00:28:43.26
THAT IS THAT GOD WANTS
YOU TO OPEN UP THIS BOOK"?
00:28:43.26\00:28:46.06
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
00:28:46.06\00:28:47.26
YEAH.
00:28:47.26\00:28:48.53
GOD HAS GIVEN US
HIS WILL IN THIS BOOK.
00:28:48.53\00:28:53.23
>> WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT THE MEETINGS.
00:28:53.23\00:28:56.03
WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE
GOAL IN THE MEETING? >>
00:28:56.03\00:28:59.66
WE START IN OUR MEETINGS
GENERALLY WITH SECULAR PEOPLE.
00:28:59.66\00:29:04.00
NO BELIEF SYSTEM.
00:29:04.00\00:29:05.66
OH, THEY DO
HAVE A BELIEF SYSTEM.
00:29:05.66\00:29:07.80
THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM SAYS
YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ANYTHING.
00:29:07.80\00:29:12.23
WE WANT TO LEAD THEM TO
UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH THAT
00:29:12.23\00:29:16.60
THERE IS A GOD AND
THIS GOD LOVES THEM.
00:29:16.60\00:29:20.60
THE GOD WHO MADE THE UNIVERSE
IS NOT AN AWFUL PERSON, BUT
00:29:20.60\00:29:25.80
HE'S A PERSON WHO LOVES
THEM, WHO CARES FOR THEM.
00:29:25.80\00:29:28.80
HE LOVES THEM SO MUCH, HE GAVE
HIS OWN SON TO DIE FOR THEM.
00:29:28.80\00:29:32.50
AND THEN THE PURPOSE OF THE
MEETINGS IS TO INTRODUCE THOSE
00:29:32.50\00:29:35.03
PEOPLE TO JESUS.
00:29:35.03\00:29:36.90
AND THEN EVERY MEETING BECOMES
A CHRIST-CENTERED MEETING.
00:29:36.90\00:29:41.63
IT'S TO LEAD THEM TO HAVE A
SAVING RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST
00:29:41.63\00:29:46.20
THAT'LL MAKE LIFE FOR
THEM ON THIS PLANET, RIGHT NOW,
00:29:46.20\00:29:49.23
WONDERFUL BECAUSE JESUS
SAID, "I'VE COME THAT THEY MAY
00:29:49.23\00:29:52.73
HAVE LIFE AND HAVE
IT MORE ABUNDANTLY."
00:29:52.73\00:29:55.23
NIV SAYS, "HAVE IT TO THE FULL."
00:29:55.23\00:29:58.10
AND SO THAT THEY'LL BE
BETTER PEOPLE, HAPPIER PEOPLE,
00:29:58.10\00:30:01.10
HEALTHIER PEOPLE,
MORE PROSPEROUS PEOPLE.
00:30:01.10\00:30:03.66
AND ULTIMATELY, AT THE END
OF THE ROAD, A PLACE WITH CHRIST
00:30:03.66\00:30:08.46
IN AN INDESCRIBABLY WONDERFUL
LAND THAT IS CALLED HEAVEN.
00:30:08.46\00:30:16.30
>> IT'S SO GREAT TO SIT DOWN
AND TALK WITH YOU AND GET TO
00:30:16.30\00:30:18.86
KNOW YOU BETTER, GET TO
KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES YOU AS YOU
00:30:18.86\00:30:23.60
TRAVEL ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
00:30:23.60\00:30:26.33
AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE
QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND WE'RE
00:30:26.33\00:30:28.93
GONNA GET BACK THOSE QUESTIONS
AS WE CONTINUE WITH A LOOK
00:30:28.93\00:30:33.60
AT THE MAN WHO
FIGHTS THE GOOD FIGHT.
00:30:33.60\00:30:37.63
WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.
00:30:37.63\00:30:39.63
>> HELLO, FRIEND.
00:30:41.86\00:30:42.93
I'M JOHN CARTER OUTSIDE
THE THEATRE COMPLEX HERE IN
00:30:42.93\00:30:47.40
BEAUTIFUL JOHANNESBURG,
RIGHT HERE IN THE VERY HEART
00:30:47.40\00:30:51.33
OF SOUTH AFRICA.
00:30:51.33\00:30:53.06
THIS IS THE THEATRE
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING
00:30:53.06\00:30:55.60
THE MEETINGS.
00:30:55.60\00:30:57.00
WE WANT YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE
THIS GREAT CITY NEEDS THE
00:30:57.00\00:31:00.26
PRAYERS OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:31:00.26\00:31:03.06
I KNOW THAT TIMES ARE TOUGH.
00:31:03.06\00:31:05.30
I KNOW THE
ECONOMY IS NOT THE BEST.
00:31:05.30\00:31:07.73
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW
THE PROMISES OF GOD ARE JUST
00:31:07.73\00:31:11.36
AS STRONG TODAY
AS THEY'VE EVER BEEN.
00:31:11.36\00:31:14.53
AND WHEN THINGS ARE TOUGH,
THAT'S WHEN WE SHOULD STEP OUT
00:31:14.53\00:31:17.73
BY FAITH.
00:31:17.73\00:31:18.86
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD
US, "DON'T RUN A CAMPAIGN
00:31:18.86\00:31:21.33
IN TOUGH TIMES."
00:31:21.33\00:31:22.63
I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS IS
THE TIME TO PREACH THE WORD
00:31:22.63\00:31:25.60
OF GOD AROUND THE WORLD.
00:31:25.60\00:31:28.00
THIS GREAT SERIES IS
GOING TO BE TELECAST RIGHT
00:31:28.00\00:31:31.50
AROUND SOUTH AFRICA.
00:31:31.50\00:31:33.16
NOT ONLY SOUTH AFRICA,
BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE GREAT
00:31:33.16\00:31:36.33
CONTINENT OF AFRICA,
HOME TO A BILLION SOULS.
00:31:36.33\00:31:41.33
WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME,
THE TIME IS RIPE TO PREACH THE
00:31:41.33\00:31:45.36
EVERLASTING GOSPEL AS FOUND
IN THE GREAT TRUTHS OF THE THREE
00:31:45.36\00:31:49.00
ANGELS' MESSAGES.
00:31:49.00\00:31:50.40
WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME.
00:31:50.40\00:31:52.00
PREACH, PREACH, PREACH.
00:31:52.00\00:31:54.23
PLEASE STAND WITH US IN THIS
GREAT AND THIS GLORIOUS WORK.
00:31:54.23\00:31:58.83
PLEASE WRITE TO ME
TODAY, JOHN CARTER,
00:31:58.83\00:32:02.10
POST OFFICE BOX 1900,
THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA,
00:32:02.10\00:32:06.30
91358.
00:32:06.30\00:32:08.26
IN AUSTRALIA, WRITE TO
ME, PLEASE, AT TERRIGAL.
00:32:08.26\00:32:11.63
PRAY FOR SOUTH AFRICA.
00:32:11.63\00:32:13.70
PRAY FOR THE TELECAST.
00:32:13.70\00:32:15.40
PRAY FOR THE PREACHING OF THE
WORD OF GOD IN THIS TREMENDOUS
00:32:15.40\00:32:19.73
HOUR IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY.
00:32:19.73\00:32:22.46
WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.
00:32:22.46\00:32:24.76
PLEASE PRAY FOR US AS WE
STEP OUT BY FAITH RIGHT HERE IN
00:32:24.76\00:32:29.60
AFRICA.
00:32:29.60\00:32:31.90
[MUSIC]
00:32:31.90\00:32:36.26
>> WELCOME BACK TO
"THE CARTER REPORT."
00:32:44.10\00:32:45.90
I'M DAVE DENO, AND TODAY
THE TOPIC IS, YOU MIGHT SAY,
00:32:45.90\00:32:49.06
THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD
OR "FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT."
00:32:49.06\00:32:53.16
AND THAT IS SIMPLY THAT
WE'RE TALKING WITH JOHN CARTER,
00:32:53.16\00:32:55.96
PASTOR JOHN CARTER, ABOUT
HIMSELF, ABOUT THE FOUNDING
00:32:55.96\00:32:59.33
OF "THE CARTER
REPORT," ABOUT HIS OWN FAITH.
00:32:59.33\00:33:03.20
AND WE'RE GONNA TALK VERY
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT JOHN'S FAITH
00:33:03.20\00:33:07.00
IN JUST A MOMENT.
00:33:07.00\00:33:08.16
BUT JOHN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
THESE MEETINGS TODAY THAT YOU
00:33:08.16\00:33:11.40
HAVE HELD AROUND THE WORLD,
AND I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER
00:33:11.40\00:33:13.93
FEEL FOR HOW FAR AND
WIDE YOU HAVE TRAVELED.
00:33:13.93\00:33:17.23
WHAT CITIES HAVE YOU GONE TO?
00:33:17.23\00:33:20.33
>> I WAS BORN IN BRED
IN AUSTRALIA AND SO I RAN
00:33:20.33\00:33:23.83
CAMPAIGNS UP AND DOWN THE
EAST COAST, BUT SPECIFICALLY
00:33:23.83\00:33:29.20
MELBOURNE AND SYDNEY.
00:33:29.20\00:33:31.00
THEN I MOVED TO
THE UNITED STATES,
00:33:31.00\00:33:33.93
WENT TO DALLAS/FORT
WORTH, TO TEXAS, THE GREAT STATE
00:33:33.93\00:33:38.83
OF TEXAS, WHICH I LOVED.
00:33:38.83\00:33:41.00
OVER HERE TO LOS ANGELES WITH
ITS TEEMING MILLIONS, EVERYBODY
00:33:41.00\00:33:45.46
ON THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME.
00:33:45.46\00:33:48.10
RAN A CAMPAIGN DOWNTOWN IN
THE GREAT SHRINE AUDITORIUM,
00:33:48.10\00:33:52.00
HOME OF THE ACADEMY AWARDS.
00:33:52.00\00:33:55.66
AND THEN TO THE GREAT CITIES
OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION,
00:33:55.66\00:33:59.26
MOSCOW, ST. PETERSBURG, IRKUTSK
IN SIBERIA, NIZHNY NOVGOROD,
00:33:59.26\00:34:06.50
THE OLD CITY OF GORKY,
DZERJINSK, FOUNDED AFTER
00:34:06.50\00:34:10.93
THE FOUNDER OF THE KGB.
00:34:10.93\00:34:13.03
UKRAINE, KIEV, THE
CAPITAL OF UKRAINE.
00:34:13.03\00:34:18.13
OTHER PLACES WITH FAR, WAY
OUT NAMES LIKE NYAZEPETROVSK,
00:34:18.13\00:34:24.93
HOROKIV, ZAPORIZHIA,
ODESSA, INDIA, AFRICA.
00:34:24.93\00:34:35.16
NOT EVERYWHERE, BUT
WE'VE HELD MEETINGS IN ASIA
00:34:35.16\00:34:40.30
AND THE PHILIPPINES, MANILA.
00:34:40.30\00:34:42.90
BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, DAVE,
YOU GOT TO REALIZE I'M A CHURCH
00:34:42.90\00:34:46.50
PASTOR AND I DO THE REST
OF THIS STUFF AS MY--I'VE DONE
00:34:46.50\00:34:52.30
THIS FOR MANY YEARS
DURING MY VACATIONS.
00:34:52.30\00:34:56.23
SO I'M A PASTOR AND I'VE LOOKED
AFTER A CHURCH FOR, I DON'T
00:34:56.23\00:34:59.96
KNOW, FOR ABOUT 48 YEARS.
00:34:59.96\00:35:02.16
IT'S A LONG TIME.
00:35:02.16\00:35:03.66
BUT I HAVE A CALL FROM
GOD TO PREACH THE WORD.
00:35:03.66\00:35:07.80
>> I WOULD IMAGINE YOU
HAVE A SUITCASE WITH A LOT OF
00:35:07.80\00:35:10.16
DIFFERENT STICKERS ON IT, SO
TO SPEAK, FROM DIFFERENT PLACES
00:35:10.16\00:35:13.60
IN THE WORLD.
00:35:13.60\00:35:14.70
BUT THERE'S ONE THAT YOU
GET TO ADD VERY SOON AND THAT
00:35:14.70\00:35:18.90
IS SOUTH AFRICA.
00:35:18.90\00:35:20.26
>> SOUTH AFRICA.
00:35:20.26\00:35:21.36
>> YOU'RE GOING TO SOUTH AFRICA?
00:35:21.36\00:35:23.20
TELL US ABOUT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.
00:35:23.20\00:35:25.86
>> JUST CAME BACK
FROM SOUTH AFRICA.
00:35:25.86\00:35:27.26
WENT OVER THERE TO
HAVE A PRELIMINARY LOOK.
00:35:27.26\00:35:30.86
WE'RE INVITED THERE, DAVE, BY
A WONDERFUL GROUP OF CHRISTIANS
00:35:30.86\00:35:35.06
WHO WANT TO SEE THE WORD
OF GOD PREACHED WITH POWER.
00:35:35.06\00:35:38.36
WE'RE GOING TO RUN A BIG
CAMPAIGN WITH THEIR BLESSING
00:35:38.36\00:35:41.30
AND THEIR SUPPORT, THEIR
COOPERATION, IN THE GREAT CITY
00:35:41.30\00:35:44.66
OF JOHANNESBURG.
00:35:44.66\00:35:46.63
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE PICKED
UP BY TELEVISION, BROADCAST
00:35:46.63\00:35:51.33
NIGHTLY RIGHT
THROUGHOUT SOUTH AFRICA.
00:35:51.33\00:35:54.10
AND I'M TOLD RIGHT
THROUGHOUT AFRICA ITSELF.
00:35:54.10\00:35:57.76
AND YOU HAVE A
BILLION PEOPLE IN AFRICA.
00:35:57.76\00:36:00.83
>> WHAT IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF
THE GOSPEL LIKE IN THIS PORTION
00:36:00.83\00:36:04.03
OF THE WORLD?
00:36:04.03\00:36:05.40
>> MANY PEOPLE IN SOUTH
AFRICA ARE SOMEWHAT RELIGIOUS,
00:36:05.40\00:36:09.00
MORE RELIGIOUS I THINK
THAN HERE IN THE GREAT LAND
00:36:09.00\00:36:11.76
OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:36:11.76\00:36:12.80
>> REALLY?
00:36:12.80\00:36:13.86
>> BUT WHILE WE WERE THERE,
DAVE, JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO,
00:36:13.86\00:36:16.36
I PREACHED 20 TIMES.
00:36:16.36\00:36:18.20
JOHANNESBURG, CAPE
TOWN, PORT ELIZABETH,
00:36:18.20\00:36:21.26
AND THEN DURBAN.
00:36:21.26\00:36:22.53
I PREACHED TO A VAST
CROWD OF ZULUS IN DURBAN.
00:36:22.53\00:36:26.60
WOW, I'VE NEVER
PREACHED TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
00:36:26.60\00:36:29.43
AS YOU'RE PREACHING, THEY'RE
CALLING OUT, "COME ON NOW.
00:36:29.43\00:36:32.40
COME ON NOW.
00:36:32.40\00:36:33.43
YES, SIR.
00:36:33.43\00:36:34.60
YES, SIR.
00:36:34.60\00:36:35.56
COME ON NOW."
00:36:35.56\00:36:37.03
AND THE ZULUS HAVE
GOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT
00:36:37.03\00:36:39.73
TO ANYBODY ELSE.
00:36:39.73\00:36:41.26
IT'S GOOD FOR PREACHING.
00:36:41.26\00:36:43.30
>> I'M SMILING BECAUSE
I'M THINKING OF THE CONTRAST
00:36:43.30\00:36:45.73
BETWEEN AN AUDIENCE LIKE THAT
THAT IS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING
00:36:45.73\00:36:49.76
WITH YOU AND SOME OF
THE AUDIENCES WE HAVE HERE.
00:36:49.76\00:36:53.36
>> I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN I
COME BACK HERE AND PREACH HERE,
00:36:53.36\00:36:56.93
YOU WONDER WHO--YOU
KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
00:36:56.93\00:36:59.20
WELL, APPARENTLY NOT A LOT.
00:36:59.20\00:37:00.53
BUT OVER THERE, THE PEOPLE
DO HAVE A FERVENCY AND THEY HAVE
00:37:00.53\00:37:05.10
EMOTIONS FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
00:37:05.10\00:37:06.80
BUT THESE PEOPLE,
BEAUTIFULLY DRESSED, CULTURED,
00:37:06.80\00:37:10.46
NICELY SPOKEN.
00:37:10.46\00:37:12.50
>> WHAT'S YOUR GOAL?
00:37:12.50\00:37:13.80
WHAT'S YOUR
OBJECTIVE FOR SOUTH AFRICA?
00:37:13.80\00:37:16.66
OBVIOUSLY WE BOTH KNOW YOU
WANT TO BRING PEOPLE TO CHRIST.
00:37:16.66\00:37:19.66
>> I WANT TO--WELL,
THAT'S--WHAT MORE CAN ONE DO?
00:37:19.66\00:37:24.40
I HAVE A DESIRE TO
WIN PEOPLE TO CHRIST.
00:37:24.40\00:37:28.20
I WANT TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE
SAVED IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
00:37:28.20\00:37:31.86
THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, DAVE,
WHEN PEOPLE COME TO CHRIST.
00:37:31.86\00:37:34.80
HEAVEN IS NOT JUST
SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE,
00:37:34.80\00:37:37.53
BUT HEAVEN STARTS NOW.
00:37:37.53\00:37:39.96
AND IN SOUTH AFRICA, YOU
HAVE TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS,
00:37:39.96\00:37:42.50
25% OR 26% OF THE
PEOPLE HAVE GOT AIDS.
00:37:42.50\00:37:46.26
THINK OF THE SOCIAL PROBLEM.
00:37:46.26\00:37:48.43
A QUARTER OF THE
PEOPLE HAVE GOT AIDS.
00:37:48.43\00:37:50.73
THEREFORE, THEY'VE
GOT A DEATH SENTENCE.
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.40
YOU'VE GOT A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CRIME.
00:37:53.40\00:37:55.93
EVERY HOME IN SOUTH AFRICA,
AT LEAST IN JOHANNESBURG,
00:37:55.93\00:37:58.83
IS SURROUNDED BY ELECTRIC WIRE.
00:37:58.83\00:38:01.56
>> WAIT A MINUTE, EVERY HOME?
00:38:01.56\00:38:03.46
>> EVERY HOME I SAW.
00:38:03.46\00:38:05.50
EVERY DECENT HOME.
00:38:05.50\00:38:06.63
>> WHY?
00:38:06.63\00:38:07.73
>> BECAUSE OF CRIME.
00:38:07.73\00:38:10.96
>> AMAZING.
00:38:10.96\00:38:12.03
>> YOU HAVE A
TREMENDOUS DISPARITY.
00:38:12.03\00:38:15.66
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE
VERY WEALTHY, PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:38:15.66\00:38:18.06
VERY POOR.
00:38:18.06\00:38:19.36
YOU'VE GOT SHANTYTOWNS.
00:38:19.36\00:38:21.10
NOW I BELIEVE THAT
THERE'S A HEAVEN TO COME.
00:38:21.10\00:38:23.16
I BELIEVE THIS.
00:38:23.16\00:38:24.43
BUT I BELIEVE ALSO THAT
THE PREACHING OF CHRIST AND THE
00:38:24.43\00:38:26.80
PREACHING OF THE GREAT TRUTHS
OF THE BIBLE ELEVATES SOCIETY.
00:38:26.80\00:38:30.90
I WANT TO PEOPLE--I
WANT TO SEE PEOPLE LIFTED UP.
00:38:30.90\00:38:34.86
I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE WHO
WERE SUFFERING IN SICKNESS
00:38:34.86\00:38:38.50
AND DISEASE, I
WANT THEM TO BE HEALED.
00:38:38.50\00:38:42.03
I WANT THEM TO SEE
THAT THERE'S A BETTER WORLD.
00:38:42.03\00:38:45.40
I WANT TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE,
BROWN PEOPLE, AND WHITE PEOPLE
00:38:45.40\00:38:50.40
REALIZE THAT LIFE CAN BE GOOD.
00:38:50.40\00:38:53.83
I WANT TO SEE HOPE
COME BACK INTO THEIR EYES.
00:38:53.83\00:38:57.73
THAT IS WHAT I
BELIEVE WE ARE CALLED TO DO.
00:38:57.73\00:39:00.06
THIS IS THE GOSPEL.
00:39:00.06\00:39:02.16
MEANS GOOD NEWS.
00:39:02.16\00:39:04.40
>> DO YOU FACE ANY CHALLENGES
AS YOU GO TO SOUTH AFRICA?
00:39:04.40\00:39:07.06
[LAUGHING] HAVE I
FACED ANY CHALLENGES?
00:39:07.06\00:39:11.90
I'VE SPENT MY LIFE FACING
CHALLENGES AND OPPOSITION.
00:39:11.90\00:39:17.93
GRAEME BRADFORD IS AN OLD
BUDDY OF MINE BACK IN AUSTRALIA.
00:39:17.93\00:39:20.43
HE SAYS, "YOU
OUGHT TO WRITE A BOOK."
00:39:20.43\00:39:22.50
HE SAID, "NOBODY WOULD
PUBLISH IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
00:39:22.50\00:39:25.56
TOO POLITICALLY INCORRECT."
00:39:25.56\00:39:29.80
WE HAVE RECEIVED TREMENDOUS
OPPOSITION AND FROM PEOPLE
00:39:29.80\00:39:34.43
WHO SHOULD BE SUPPORTING.
00:39:34.43\00:39:37.10
BUT IN SOUTH AFRICA,
DO WE EXPECT OPPOSITION?
00:39:37.10\00:39:40.00
YEAH, IT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
00:39:40.00\00:39:42.13
HAPPENED IN KIEV,
WHERE THE PRELATE SAID,
00:39:42.13\00:39:45.73
"YOU'LL COME INTO THIS
CITY ONLY OVER MY DEAD BODY,"
00:39:45.73\00:39:49.06
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
00:39:49.06\00:39:51.00
>> JOHN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
NUTS AND BOLTS, THE PRACTICAL
00:39:51.00\00:39:53.60
ASPECTS OF A CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS.
00:39:53.60\00:39:56.00
HOW IS A CAMPAIGN
LIKE THIS FINANCED?
00:39:56.00\00:40:01.00
>> IT'S AMAZING.
00:40:01.00\00:40:02.53
IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS
HAPPENED TO ME, BUT THE PEOPLE
00:40:02.53\00:40:05.76
WHERE I'M GOING ARE HELPING.
00:40:05.76\00:40:10.60
A WONDERFUL GROUP OF COMMITTED
CHRISTIANS, AND THEY'VE GOT
00:40:10.60\00:40:13.36
TOGETHER AND BY THE GRACE
OF GOD, THEY'RE RAISING MONEY.
00:40:13.36\00:40:17.23
BUT OF COURSE,
I'M RAISING MONEY TOO.
00:40:17.23\00:40:20.43
EVERY TIME I'VE GONE TO RUSSIA
OR TO INDIA OR THE PHILIPPINES
00:40:20.43\00:40:26.23
OR JAMAICA OR EVEN HERE
IN LOS ANGELES NOW, WE RAISE
00:40:26.23\00:40:32.26
THE MONEY OURSELVES.
00:40:32.26\00:40:34.23
WE DON'T HAVE A CHURCH
ORGANIZATION STANDING BEHIND US
00:40:34.23\00:40:36.86
AND SAYING, "HEY, WE WANT YOU
TO DO THE PREACHING AND WE'RE
00:40:36.86\00:40:41.16
GONNA PAY FOR THE BILLS."
00:40:41.16\00:40:42.20
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
00:40:42.20\00:40:44.96
WE RAISE THE MONEY
WITH THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:40:44.96\00:40:48.76
AND OUT THERE WE'VE GOT LOTS
AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE
00:40:48.76\00:40:51.93
AS WE BELIEVE.
00:40:51.93\00:40:53.63
>> BUT A PERSON
WATCHING US TALKING NOW ABOUT
00:40:53.63\00:40:57.36
SOUTH AFRICA-- >> YES.
00:40:57.36\00:40:59.63
>> HALF A WORLD AWAY.
00:40:59.63\00:41:01.53
WHY SHOULD THEY CARE?
00:41:01.53\00:41:03.33
WHY SHOULD THEY CARE ENOUGH
TO ACTUALLY GIVE SOMETHING
00:41:03.33\00:41:07.96
TO HELP?
00:41:07.96\00:41:08.86
>> THE SAME
REASON THAT I'M GOING.
00:41:08.86\00:41:11.96
THE SAME REASON I'M GOING.
00:41:11.96\00:41:14.73
EVERY PERSON, DAVE, WHO'S BORN
INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS BORN
00:41:14.73\00:41:18.63
AS A MISSIONARY.
00:41:18.63\00:41:20.73
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM TODAY
IN THE CHURCH IS INTROVERSION
00:41:20.73\00:41:26.00
AND SELFISHNESS.
00:41:26.00\00:41:27.70
WE HAVE A
RELIGION OF ME, ME, ME, ME.
00:41:27.70\00:41:32.53
IT'S PSYCHOLOGICALLY SICK.
00:41:32.53\00:41:36.80
IT'S NOT GOOD.
00:41:36.80\00:41:39.06
JESUS TOLD US TO LOOK OUT.
00:41:39.06\00:41:42.36
NOT JUST LOOK OUT FOR OURSELVES
EITHER, BUT TO LOOK OUT
00:41:42.36\00:41:46.00
TO THE WORLD.
00:41:46.00\00:41:47.26
THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE ARE
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REACHING OUT
00:41:47.26\00:41:50.46
FOR OTHERS.
00:41:50.46\00:41:51.86
I'VE GOT LOTS AND LOTS OF
WONDERFUL FRIENDS AROUND THE
00:41:51.86\00:41:54.26
WORLD HAVE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY.
00:41:54.26\00:41:56.30
JESUS SAID, "IT IS MORE BLESSED
TO GIVE--" I PREACHED THIS
00:41:56.30\00:41:59.63
ABOUT SABBATH, "MORE BLESSED
TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE."
00:41:59.63\00:42:02.53
WE HAVE A SOCIETY THAT SAYS,
"IT'S MORE BLESSED TO RECEIVE
00:42:02.53\00:42:05.26
THAN TO GIVE."
00:42:05.26\00:42:06.90
AND WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT
TO GIVE TO US ALL THE TIME.
00:42:06.90\00:42:09.50
SO, THE GOVERNMENT
HAS BECOME LIKE OUR GOD.
00:42:09.50\00:42:12.10
THE GOVERNMENT BAILS
US OUT, TAKES CARE OF US
00:42:12.10\00:42:14.50
FOR EVERYTHING.
00:42:14.50\00:42:15.50
BUT JESUS SAID, "IT'S
MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN
00:42:15.50\00:42:18.00
TO RECEIVE."
00:42:18.00\00:42:19.10
NOW JESUS SAID--NOW EITHER
WE TAKE THE WORDS OF JESUS
00:42:19.10\00:42:23.83
SERIOUSLY OR ELSE
WE JUST STOP TALKING.
00:42:23.83\00:42:27.33
IF I'M GOING TO BE A CHRISTIAN,
IF I'M GOING TO FOLLOW
00:42:27.33\00:42:32.63
MY BIBLE, I NEED
TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
00:42:32.63\00:42:37.00
I TAKE THE WORD
OF GOD SERIOUSLY.
00:42:37.00\00:42:40.66
JESUS SAID, "GO INTO ALL THE
WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL."
00:42:40.66\00:42:45.50
THAT'S WHAT I STAND
FOR, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE
00:42:45.50\00:42:48.60
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
00:42:48.60\00:42:51.36
>> YOU KNOW, JOHN, YOU TALKED
ABOUT IT BEING MORE BLESSED TO
00:42:51.36\00:42:53.73
GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.
00:42:53.73\00:42:55.36
AND I WOULD CONTEND THAT IT
IS ALSO MORE JOYFUL TO GIVE THAN
00:42:55.36\00:43:00.76
TO RECEIVE, THAT YOU ACTUALLY
EXPERIENCE MORE JOY IN THE
00:43:00.76\00:43:04.90
GIVING THAN IN THE RECEIVING.
00:43:04.90\00:43:07.33
BUT WE AS AMERICANS
PARTICULARLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE
00:43:07.33\00:43:10.06
BEEN GIVEN SO MUCH, LITTLE
BY LITTLE BY LITTLE WE TEND TO
00:43:10.06\00:43:15.23
KEEP IT FOR OURSELVES.
00:43:15.23\00:43:17.36
AND WHAT YOU AND I ARE TALKING
ABOUT IS CHANGING THAT--THE OLD
00:43:17.36\00:43:23.10
BIBLICAL WORD,
"REPENT," THAT IS, TURN AROUND
00:43:23.10\00:43:26.40
AND GO A DIFFERENT WAY.
00:43:26.40\00:43:27.80
AND INSTEAD OF KEEPING LITTLE
BY LITTLE, WHY NOT TURN AROUND
00:43:27.80\00:43:32.33
AND START GIVING A LITTLE MORE,
A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE,
00:43:32.33\00:43:37.10
AND LEARN THE JOY OF
GIVING, LEARN THE JOY
00:43:37.10\00:43:41.16
OF BEING INVOLVED?
00:43:41.16\00:43:42.13
>> I KNOW.
00:43:42.13\00:43:44.43
I AGREE WITH
EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, DAVE.
00:43:44.43\00:43:47.83
I MUST SAY THAT I HAVE FOUND IN
THIS PART OF THE WORLD SOME OF
00:43:47.83\00:43:50.76
THE MOST GENEROUS PEOPLE
ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
00:43:50.76\00:43:54.30
I'VE GOT FRIENDS, I SHOULDN'T
MENTION THEM BY NAME, THEY'LL
00:43:54.30\00:43:57.10
BE EMBARRASSED, BUT I'VE
GOT FRIENDS THERE IN TENNESSEE,
00:43:57.10\00:44:00.50
PAM AND JIMMY.
00:44:00.50\00:44:01.93
AND I'VE GOT OTHER
FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD,
00:44:01.93\00:44:04.80
FRIENDS IN AUSTRALIA.
00:44:04.80\00:44:08.30
AND THEY ARE MOTIVATED
TO PREACH CHRIST AND BRING
00:44:08.30\00:44:12.30
SALVATION TO PEOPLE.
00:44:12.30\00:44:13.80
AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,
THEY'RE THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE
00:44:13.80\00:44:17.16
IN THE WORLD.
00:44:17.16\00:44:18.23
>> THEY ARE.
00:44:18.23\00:44:19.16
>> THE SADDEST PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE
00:44:19.16\00:44:20.96
WHO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES.
00:44:20.96\00:44:22.40
THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT
THE GREAT CRISIS UPON AMERICA
00:44:22.40\00:44:24.96
BECAUSE OF THEIR
LUST AND THEIR GREED.
00:44:24.96\00:44:28.53
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT
THESE PEOPLE FROM WALL STREET,
00:44:28.53\00:44:30.93
HOW THEY JUST ABOUT BROUGHT THE
WORLD DOWN, CAUSED THE DEATHS
00:44:30.93\00:44:34.60
OF MILLIONS OF LITTLE CHILDREN.
00:44:34.60\00:44:37.06
THEY DID CAUSE THE DEATHS
OF MILLIONS OF LITTLE CHILDREN
00:44:37.06\00:44:39.83
IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.
00:44:39.83\00:44:41.36
BUT THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE,
DAVE, THAT I'VE MET ANYWHERE
00:44:41.36\00:44:44.06
IN THE WORLD ARE
PEOPLE WHO GIVE FOR OTHERS.
00:44:44.06\00:44:46.96
AND THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN
GIVE IS THE GIFT OF CHRIST.
00:44:46.96\00:44:51.80
>> JOHN, AS A PASTOR AND AS AN
EVANGELIST, YOU BRING A MESSAGE
00:44:51.80\00:44:55.66
THAT SOME PEOPLE
DO NOT WANT TO HEAR.
00:44:55.66\00:44:57.96
YOU STATED A MOMENT AGO THAT
IN YOUR LIFE, YOU HAVE FACED
00:44:57.96\00:45:02.56
A GREAT DEAL OF OPPOSITION.
00:45:02.56\00:45:03.96
EVER HAVE ANY REGRETS
ABOUT BECOMING A PASTOR
00:45:03.96\00:45:06.66
OR AN EVANGELIST?
00:45:06.66\00:45:07.86
>> OH, DURING THE OPPOSITION
I'VE HAD SOME REGRETS.
00:45:07.86\00:45:13.40
NOBODY LIKES OPPOSITION.
00:45:13.40\00:45:15.90
NOBODY LIKES TO BE ATTACKED.
00:45:15.90\00:45:18.56
WHEN THE ATTACKS GO ON MONTH
AFTER MONTH, YEAR AFTER YEAR,
00:45:18.56\00:45:22.66
AND THEY BECOME
PERSONAL, NOBODY LIKES THAT.
00:45:22.66\00:45:26.60
BUT GOD HAS BLESSED ME.
00:45:26.60\00:45:29.60
I DO NOT REGRET FOR A
MOMENT THE MOMENT I GAVE MY LIFE
00:45:29.60\00:45:34.36
TO CHRIST.
00:45:34.36\00:45:36.60
>> TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
00:45:36.60\00:45:38.16
>> OH, I WAS JUST A BOY GOING
TO AVONDALE COLLEGE AND A FRIEND
00:45:38.16\00:45:42.10
OF MINE, A DEAR FRIEND,
TOM LUDOWICI, HE WAS--SAW HIM
00:45:42.10\00:45:46.36
OVER THERE AT
AVONDALE A FEW WEEKS AGO.
00:45:46.36\00:45:49.93
LOVE THE LUDOWICIS,
LOVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
00:45:49.93\00:45:52.66
HE GENTLY LED ME HOME.
00:45:52.66\00:45:55.23
HE SHARED CHRIST WITH ME.
00:45:55.23\00:45:57.00
HE TOOK AN INTEREST IN ME.
00:45:57.00\00:45:59.86
I BECAME APPARENTLY
HIS MISSIONARY PROJECT.
00:45:59.86\00:46:03.30
AND SO HE SOUGHT ME OUT.
00:46:03.30\00:46:06.16
HE WAS KIND TO ME.
00:46:06.16\00:46:07.76
HE HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND
THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION.
00:46:07.76\00:46:11.66
I'M HERE TODAY
BECAUSE SOMEBODY CARED FOR ME.
00:46:11.66\00:46:14.86
WHEN I WAS A BABY, MY MOTHER
WHO WAS NOT A CHURCH MEMBER OF
00:46:14.86\00:46:19.46
ANY CHURCH DEDICATED ME TO GOD
FOR THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY,
00:46:19.46\00:46:26.33
SOLEMNLY DEDICATED ME TO GOD.
00:46:26.33\00:46:28.20
SHE SAID, "THIS BABY IS
GOING TO BE USED BY YOU, GOD."
00:46:28.20\00:46:34.13
SHE ONLY TOLD ME THAT
WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE.
00:46:34.13\00:46:37.03
SO, I'VE HAD A CALLING FROM GOD.
00:46:37.03\00:46:41.66
I HAVE BEEN BLESSED.
00:46:41.66\00:46:42.70
I HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF GOD.
00:46:42.70\00:46:43.96
I'VE SEEN TENS OF THOUSANDS,
OVER AND OVER AND OVER, HUGE
00:46:43.96\00:46:48.36
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME
TO CHRIST AND BE BORN AGAIN.
00:46:48.36\00:46:53.30
I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS.
00:46:53.30\00:46:55.73
I HAVE MY SON WORKING
IN THE MINISTRY, MY WIFE.
00:46:55.73\00:46:59.16
I HAVE WONDERFUL FRIENDS
HERE AT "THE CARTER REPORT."
00:46:59.16\00:47:02.50
I HAVE FRIENDS IN AUSTRALIA,
FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD.
00:47:02.50\00:47:05.53
NOW I'VE GOT
FRIENDS IN SOUTH AFRICA.
00:47:05.53\00:47:08.00
I REGRET THIS?
00:47:08.00\00:47:10.13
HEY, THE PERSECUTION HAS
COME FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE SO
00:47:10.13\00:47:12.93
INSECURE THAT THEY DIDN'T
WANT THE GOSPEL TO BE PREACHED.
00:47:12.93\00:47:16.80
WE SHOULDN'T WORRY
ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
00:47:16.80\00:47:20.10
WE JUST OUGHT TO GO AHEAD
AND DO WHAT GOD TELLS US TO DO.
00:47:20.10\00:47:24.60
>> JOHN, AS A PARENT, I AM
ACUTELY AWARE OF THE NEED TO
00:47:24.60\00:47:29.56
INVEST MYSELF INTO MY CHILDREN.
00:47:29.56\00:47:33.43
AS A PASTOR, I KNOW THAT
YOU FEEL A VERY STRONG DESIRE
00:47:33.43\00:47:38.86
TO INVEST YOURSELF
INTO THE LIVES OF PEOPLE.
00:47:38.86\00:47:43.13
AND YOU TALK ABOUT MASSES
OF PEOPLE, TENS OF THOUSANDS,
00:47:43.13\00:47:47.13
AND YET I KNOW YOU THINK OF
THEM AS INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
00:47:47.13\00:47:50.86
>> I'VE BEEN TO RUSSIA 40 TIMES
IN 20 YEARS, 20 TIMES TO RUN
00:47:50.86\00:47:57.43
BIG CAMPAIGNS AND
20 TIMES TO FOLLOW UP.
00:47:57.43\00:48:02.20
I'VE HAD A POLICY NOW
FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 20 YEARS.
00:48:02.20\00:48:07.43
I'VE GONE BACK EVERY YEAR TO
THE PLACES WHERE I'VE PREACHED
00:48:07.43\00:48:10.20
THE WORD.
00:48:10.20\00:48:13.46
AFTER RUNNING THE
CAMPAIGN IN VOLGOGRAD,
00:48:13.46\00:48:15.93
WENT BACK TO VOLGOGRAD.
00:48:15.93\00:48:17.73
AFTER THE CAMPAIGN IN
KAZAN WHERE WE HAD THE FIRST BIG
00:48:17.73\00:48:21.00
CAMPAIGN IN A MUSLIM CITY
AND BAPTIZED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
00:48:21.00\00:48:24.40
IN FRONT OF THE
MOSQUE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
00:48:24.40\00:48:27.26
IT CAN'T BE DONE.
00:48:27.26\00:48:28.76
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
00:48:28.76\00:48:30.00
AND THESE THINGS CAN'T BE
DONE BECAUSE WE THINK THEY
00:48:30.00\00:48:32.50
CAN'T BE DONE.
00:48:32.50\00:48:35.30
AND TOO MANY CHURCH COMMITTEES
STOP MORE THAN THEY ALLOW TO
00:48:35.30\00:48:39.80
HAPPEN.
00:48:39.80\00:48:42.16
THIS IS A STORY OF
HIERARCHIES AND COMMITTEES.
00:48:42.16\00:48:45.93
THEY'RE LIKE WET
BLANKETS, THEY STOP THINGS.
00:48:45.93\00:48:48.80
BUT I'VE GONE
BACK TO THOSE CHURCHES.
00:48:48.80\00:48:51.10
I'VE GONE BACK
TO NIZHNY NOVGOROD.
00:48:51.10\00:48:54.06
I'VE GONE BACK TO NIZHNY
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES,
00:48:54.06\00:48:57.16
BUT I GO BACK THERE BECAUSE
I BELIEVE IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE
00:48:57.16\00:49:02.53
TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF
CHRIST AND WALK AWAY FROM IT.
00:49:02.53\00:49:08.00
WHEN I READ THE BIBLE,
PAUL WENT BACK TIME AFTER TIME.
00:49:08.00\00:49:11.50
WE HAVE THE SAME POLICY.
00:49:11.50\00:49:17.10
>> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
THE MEETINGS YOU HAVE LED.
00:49:17.10\00:49:20.56
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
YOU COMING TO CHRIST.
00:49:20.56\00:49:24.06
A PERSON WATCHING AT
HOME MAY THINK, "WELL,
00:49:24.06\00:49:27.13
THAT'S JOHN CARTER.
00:49:27.13\00:49:29.80
SOMEHOW HE LED A SO-CALLED
CHARMED LIFE, BUT THAT'S
00:49:29.80\00:49:35.13
NOT FOR ME."
00:49:35.13\00:49:36.26
I MEAN-- >> A BLESSED LIFE,
00:49:36.26\00:49:38.36
BUT NOT A CHARMED LIFE.
00:49:38.36\00:49:41.00
>> BUT DO YOU
EVER HAVE DOWN MOMENTS?
00:49:41.00\00:49:44.26
MOMENTS OF DOUBT?
00:49:44.26\00:49:46.06
>> NOT MOMENTS OF DOUBT,
BUT I DO HAVE DOWN MOMENTS.
00:49:46.06\00:49:50.76
I BELIEVE THAT I
AM BUFFETED BY SATAN.
00:49:50.76\00:49:57.96
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I
HAVE GRAPPLED WITH THE FORCES
00:49:57.96\00:50:00.76
OF DARKNESS, ESPECIALLY
JUST BEFORE A BIG CAMPAIGN.
00:50:00.76\00:50:06.26
AND OFTEN AFTER A BIG CAMPAIGN
WHEN I'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING,
00:50:06.26\00:50:09.20
THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO
BE ANYTHING LEFT IN ME.
00:50:09.20\00:50:12.63
WHEN THE OPPOSITION IS
TREMENDOUS, WHEN WE'RE FINDING
00:50:12.63\00:50:17.90
IT HARD TO PAY THE BILLS AND
RAISE THE MONEY BECAUSE WHEN WE
00:50:17.90\00:50:21.30
START CAMPAIGNS, USUALLY WE
DON'T START WITH THE BUDGET.
00:50:21.30\00:50:25.20
WE GO AHEAD AND START SPENDING
AND PRAY THAT THE MONEY'S
00:50:25.20\00:50:28.60
GOING TO COME.
00:50:28.60\00:50:30.03
NOW WHEN IT COMES,
EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
00:50:30.03\00:50:35.43
AND IT'S NEVER FAILED YET.
00:50:35.43\00:50:37.43
SOME PEOPLE SAY, "WHAT
HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T COME?"
00:50:37.43\00:50:40.06
WELL, IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT.
00:50:40.06\00:50:42.06
WE BELIEVE IN
THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
00:50:42.06\00:50:46.40
YEAH, I HAVE UP DAYS
AND I HAVE DOWN DAYS.
00:50:46.40\00:50:50.83
BUT THANK GOD MY ACCEPTANCE
WITH CHRIST DOESN'T DEPEND
00:50:50.83\00:50:54.66
UPON HOW I FEEL.
00:50:54.66\00:50:56.80
IT DEPENDS UPON HIS
LOVE AND HIS GOODNESS.
00:50:56.80\00:50:59.73
>> GOD HAS GIVEN YOU
A WONDERFUL HELP MATE
00:50:59.73\00:51:02.06
IN YOUR LIFE AS WELL.
00:51:02.06\00:51:03.16
>> MM-HMM, YES.
00:51:03.16\00:51:05.03
>> AND I'M SURE THAT SHE IS A
GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU AND
00:51:05.03\00:51:07.56
INDEED A BALM IN TIMES OF PAIN.
00:51:07.56\00:51:11.30
>> SHE LOVES EVANGELISM
AND SHE HAS A BURDEN FOR SOULS.
00:51:11.30\00:51:18.06
THIS WORK, AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE, DAVE, ENTAILS A LOT
00:51:18.06\00:51:21.43
OF HARD WORK.
00:51:21.43\00:51:23.66
AND THE REASON MORE PEOPLE
DON'T DO IT TODAY IS BECAUSE
00:51:23.66\00:51:26.30
A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON'T LIKE HARD WORK.
00:51:26.30\00:51:29.66
THAT'S ONE REASON SOME
PASTORS DON'T LIKE DOING IT.
00:51:29.66\00:51:32.80
THEY SAY, "OH, NOT
FOR ME, NOT FOR ME."
00:51:32.80\00:51:35.80
BUT IT'S NOT AN OPTION
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
00:51:35.80\00:51:38.36
IT'S NOT AN
OPTION FOR ANY CHRISTIAN.
00:51:38.36\00:51:40.36
SOME PEOPLE COME TO ME
AND THEY SAY, "WELL, YOU KNOW,
00:51:40.36\00:51:42.93
YOU WERE CALLED TO DO THAT.
00:51:42.93\00:51:44.00
WE'RE NOT CALLED TO DO IT."
00:51:44.00\00:51:45.13
I SAY, "NO, NO,
NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
00:51:45.13\00:51:47.40
DON'T TELL ME THAT.
00:51:47.40\00:51:48.56
WE'RE ALL CALLED TO IT."
00:51:48.56\00:51:49.90
BUT SOME HAVE SAID
YES AND SOME HAVE SAID NO.
00:51:49.90\00:51:52.90
SO, WE'RE ALL CALLED TO BE
AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST AND TO
00:51:52.90\00:51:57.06
ENDEAVOR BY THE GRACE OF GOD
TO REACH THE LOST FOR CHRIST.
00:51:57.06\00:52:01.33
>> YOU HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT HEAVEN.
00:52:01.33\00:52:03.16
WHAT'S YOUR CONCEPT OF HEAVEN?
00:52:03.16\00:52:05.13
>> OH, HEAVEN TO ME IS
GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL,
00:52:05.13\00:52:07.63
WONDERFUL PLACE.
00:52:07.63\00:52:08.60
AS YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED--
WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW.
00:52:08.60\00:52:10.76
BUT I'M INTERESTED IN ASTRONOMY.
00:52:10.76\00:52:12.96
I LOVE STUDYING THE STARS.
00:52:12.96\00:52:14.66
I'VE DONE A
LITTLE--NOT A LOT, YOU KNOW.
00:52:14.66\00:52:18.13
I'M NOT AN ASTRONOMER, BUT
I'VE DONE SOME STUDY OF THE
00:52:18.13\00:52:20.96
PHENOMENON THAT ASTRONOMERS
NOW CALL THE BIG BANG.
00:52:20.96\00:52:26.33
YOU DON'T HAVE TO
CALL IT THE BIG BANG.
00:52:26.33\00:52:28.06
THE BIBLE SAYS, "IN
THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED
00:52:28.06\00:52:30.10
THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH."
00:52:30.10\00:52:31.43
AND NOW WITH THE HUBBLE SPACE
TELESCOPE WE CAN LOOK BACK TO
00:52:31.43\00:52:36.86
THE--ALMOST TO
THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
00:52:36.86\00:52:41.26
I BELIEVE THAT HEAVEN'S GOING
TO BE A MILLION TIMES BETTER
00:52:41.26\00:52:46.36
THAN WE CAN COMPREHEND.
00:52:46.36\00:52:48.50
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO
HAVE--WELL, FIGURATIVELY
00:52:48.50\00:52:52.20
SPEAKING, I GUESS,
STREETS OF GOLD AND ALL OF THAT.
00:52:52.20\00:52:58.46
BUT THE BEST PART ABOUT HEAVEN,
I THINK, IS GOING TO BE THAT
00:52:58.46\00:53:01.10
JESUS IS GOING TO BE THERE.
00:53:01.10\00:53:03.93
THE CREATOR OF THE
UNIVERSE IS GONNA BE THERE.
00:53:03.93\00:53:07.00
THE ONE WHO'S GOT MARKS IN
HIS HANDS BECAUSE OF THE NAILS,
00:53:07.00\00:53:13.43
HE'S GONNA BE THERE.
00:53:13.43\00:53:15.43
AND FRIENDS ARE GONNA BE THERE.
00:53:15.43\00:53:18.43
I HEARD THE GAITHERS SING
A SONG--OR NOT THE GAITHERS,
00:53:18.43\00:53:20.66
BUT SOME OF THEIR GROUP SAYING,
"KNOWING YOU'LL BE THERE MAKES
00:53:20.66\00:53:24.80
IT EASY TO GO HOME."
00:53:24.80\00:53:26.93
YOU KNOW THE SONG?
00:53:26.93\00:53:28.06
>> MM-HMM.
00:53:28.06\00:53:29.33
>> KNOWING YOU'LL BE
THERE MAKES IT EASY TO GO HOME.
00:53:29.33\00:53:34.23
I'M GONNA HAVE A LOT
OF FRIENDS IN HEAVEN.
00:53:34.23\00:53:38.20
WE'RE ALL GONNA GET OUT IN
THE COUNTRY AND WE'RE GONNA
00:53:38.20\00:53:41.50
HAVE NICE LITTLE
PLACES-- NO, NICE BIG PLACES.
00:53:41.50\00:53:44.60
WE'RE GONNA HAVE HORSES
AND COWS AND LIONS AND LOTS
00:53:44.60\00:53:48.46
OF FRIENDS.
00:53:48.46\00:53:50.76
IT'S GONNA BE WONDERFUL.
00:53:50.76\00:53:52.73
AND THE BEST PART OF IT
IS JESUS IS GONNA BE THERE.
00:53:52.73\00:53:56.86
>> WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME
OF VISITING AND TALKING ABOUT
00:53:56.86\00:54:00.36
YOUR LIFE, YOUR TRAVELS, SOME
OF YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR VIEWS.
00:54:00.36\00:54:07.90
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE,
GOD WILLING, WHAT YOU SEE
00:54:07.90\00:54:13.03
IN THE YEARS AHEAD.
00:54:13.03\00:54:14.90
WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH?
00:54:14.90\00:54:16.83
WHAT DO YOU FEEL
LED TO ACCOMPLISH?
00:54:16.83\00:54:18.83
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO GO HEAVEN.
00:54:18.83\00:54:21.83
>> YOU SOUND LIKE PAUL.
00:54:21.83\00:54:24.16
>> I WOULD VERY--I'D BE VERY
HAPPY, AS PAUL SAID, TO DEPART
00:54:24.16\00:54:27.30
AND BE WITH CHRIST.
00:54:27.30\00:54:28.73
HE SAID THAT IN
PHILIPPIANS, YOU KNOW.
00:54:28.73\00:54:31.30
I WOULD LOVE TO
GO HOME TO GLORY.
00:54:31.30\00:54:35.33
I'D LIKE TO BE--I
BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION.
00:54:35.33\00:54:38.00
I WOULD LIKE TO BE RESURRECTED
OR TRANSLATED, GO HOME
00:54:38.00\00:54:41.00
TO GLORY.
00:54:41.00\00:54:45.36
I WANT TO KEEP GOING AS
LONG AS GOD GIVES ME STRENGTH.
00:54:45.36\00:54:49.73
NOW I EXERCISE
AND WORKOUT EVERY DAY.
00:54:49.73\00:54:52.20
I'M PRETTY CAREFUL--OH,
WELL, I'M VERY CAREFUL WITH
00:54:52.20\00:54:54.36
WHAT I EAT.
00:54:54.36\00:54:56.60
I WANT TO KEEP ON DOING
WHAT GOD WANTS ME TO DO.
00:54:56.60\00:55:00.73
I'D RATHER WEAR
OUT THAN RUST OUT.
00:55:00.73\00:55:03.73
A LOT OF PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, RUST OUT.
00:55:03.73\00:55:05.73
AND AS THEY RUST OUT,
YOU CAN HEAR THEM RUSTING.
00:55:05.73\00:55:10.10
YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR
THEM GROANING AND MOANING.
00:55:10.10\00:55:16.20
I WANT TO BE LIKE JOHN WESLEY
AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO
00:55:16.20\00:55:19.46
WILL KEEP ON PREACHING WHILE
THE LIGHT IS STILL BURNING.
00:55:19.46\00:55:24.00
THE LAST NIGHT OF JOHN WESLEY'S
LIFE, HE HELD UP A CANDLE.
00:55:24.00\00:55:27.66
HE HAD A CROWD OF PEOPLE THERE
AND THEY WOULDN'T LET HIM GO
00:55:27.66\00:55:29.90
TO BED.
00:55:29.90\00:55:30.90
HE HELD UP THE CANDLE AND
HE PREACHED UNTIL THE CANDLE
00:55:30.90\00:55:33.96
BURNED RIGHT DOWN.
00:55:33.96\00:55:35.66
AND WHEN THE CANDLE WENT
OUT, JOHN WESLEY WENT UP TO BED
00:55:35.66\00:55:39.63
AND WENT TO SLEEP,
FELL ASLEEP IN CHRIST.
00:55:39.63\00:55:43.60
IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR A MINISTER
TO DIE, HOLDING UP THE CANDLE,
00:55:43.60\00:55:48.36
PREACHING THE GOSPEL.
00:55:48.36\00:55:51.46
>> WELL, THE DESIRE, I WOULD
SAY, NOT JUST FOR MYSELF, BUT
00:55:51.46\00:55:55.70
FOR SO MANY WHO ARE
WATCHING TODAY, IS TO HELP YOU
00:55:55.70\00:55:59.33
TO HOLD UP THAT CANDLE.
00:55:59.33\00:56:00.93
>> WELL, I'D LIKE THEM TO.
00:56:00.93\00:56:03.63
>> AND I HOPE THAT
PEOPLE WILL WRITE TO YOU.
00:56:03.63\00:56:05.70
I KNOW YOU LOVE TO RECEIVE
PEOPLE'S LETTERS, DON'T YOU?
00:56:05.70\00:56:08.60
>> I SURE DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN
THEY PUT A CHECK IN IT TO HOLD
00:56:08.60\00:56:11.96
UP THE CANDLE.
00:56:11.96\00:56:14.23
>> AND THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL
WAY TO HELP YOU DO THAT.
00:56:14.23\00:56:16.56
>> AND YOU KNOW,
WE'RE TALKING REALITY HERE.
00:56:16.56\00:56:19.73
>> I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WRITE
TO JOHN AND TO HELP HIM HOLD UP
00:56:19.73\00:56:22.76
THAT CANDLE, TO BE A PART OF
HIS MINISTRY, TO BE A SUPPORT
00:56:22.76\00:56:27.23
PARTNER IN THE MINISTRY.
00:56:27.23\00:56:29.63
YOU CAN DO SO BY WRITING TO
JOHN HERE AT THE CARTER REPORT
00:56:29.63\00:56:33.20
AT P.O. BOX 1900,
THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA 91358.
00:56:33.20\00:56:42.10
IN AUSTRALIA, WRITE TO
THE CARTER REPORT AT TERRIGAL,
00:56:42.10\00:56:47.46
NEW SOUTH WALES.
00:56:47.46\00:56:49.20
THE BOX NUMBER
IS ON YOUR SCREEN.
00:56:49.20\00:56:52.00
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING A PART OF OUR CHAT TODAY.
00:56:52.00\00:56:54.30
JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SHARING YOUR HEART TODAY.
00:56:54.30\00:56:57.06
>> NOW DAVE, THANK YOU.
00:56:57.06\00:56:58.26
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:56:58.26\00:56:59.53
>> JOIN US AGAIN FOR
THE NEXT "CARTER REPORT."
00:56:59.53\00:57:03.53
[MUSIC]
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? THERE IS NO PROBLEM TOO
BIG ? ? GOD CANNOT SOLVE IT. ?
00:57:19.96\00:57:29.83
? THERE IS NO MOUNTAIN TOO
? ? TALL HE CANNOT MOVE IT ?
00:57:29.83\00:57:39.40
? THERE IS NO STORM TOO
DARK ? ? GOD CANNOT CALM IT. ?
00:57:39.40\00:57:48.70
? THERE IS NO SORROW TOO
DEEP ? ? HE CANNOT SOOTHE IT. ?
00:57:48.70\00:57:56.83
? IF HE CARRIED THE WEIGHT ??
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