Welcome to Celebrating Life In Recovery, 00:00:11.22\00:00:13.06 I'm Cheri your host and today we are going to talk about 00:00:13.09\00:00:15.46 Teen Challenge, - I love that. 00:00:15.49\00:00:18.44 And I love these guys and you are going to be blessed so 00:00:18.47\00:00:20.65 you have to join us in the café. 00:00:20.68\00:00:21.96 It is going to be too cool. 00:00:21.99\00:00:23.84 You know the season we are talking about step four, and 00:00:52.79\00:00:56.89 remember we had talked about a number of different 00:00:56.92\00:01:00.08 organizations do step four different. 00:01:00.11\00:01:02.32 12 step programs have like you look at your resentments 00:01:02.35\00:01:06.70 and you look at who you're angry at. 00:01:06.73\00:01:08.75 You deal with how that felt, how that felt in your 00:01:08.78\00:01:11.68 pocket book, how that felt in your heart, how that felt 00:01:11.71\00:01:14.27 in your self-esteem, you look at it in all different ways. 00:01:14.30\00:01:17.56 There is other people that look at like the Oxford group. 00:01:17.59\00:01:20.93 They will look at your moral inventory with honesty and 00:01:20.96\00:01:24.37 love and how you trashed yourself in those areas of 00:01:24.40\00:01:27.56 relationships. We look at pride, rebellion, anger, 00:01:27.59\00:01:33.19 with me I was really damaged in my life. 00:01:33.22\00:01:38.13 I was damaged in a lot of different ways. 00:01:38.16\00:01:39.87 I had molestation, I had parents that were self focused 00:01:39.90\00:01:44.49 on their own stuff so I was damaged to the 00:01:44.52\00:01:47.61 point where I became very sensitive, and if my husband 00:01:47.64\00:01:52.93 was here he would be yelling no it is more than that, 00:01:52.96\00:01:56.28 it's much more than that. 00:01:56.31\00:01:57.86 But I became very self focused, my feelings got hurt 00:01:57.89\00:02:00.57 easily and all that stuff. 00:02:00.60\00:02:02.16 So even though I could stop the drugs I had all this kind 00:02:02.19\00:02:05.10 of junk that went along with them. 00:02:05.13\00:02:07.06 I had anger, I could play people and lie better than most. 00:02:07.09\00:02:13.56 I lived on the streets for 10 years so I learned 00:02:13.59\00:02:16.17 how to manipulate and learned and all those things. 00:02:16.20\00:02:18.50 So this season we are talking about not only coming out 00:02:18.53\00:02:21.18 of whatever the addiction is, not only coming out of 00:02:21.21\00:02:24.40 whether you are a shopaholic, whether you are an 00:02:24.43\00:02:27.68 alcoholic, whether you are a workaholic, whether you 00:02:27.71\00:02:29.76 have porn addictions, drug or alcoholism addictions 00:02:29.79\00:02:33.60 whatever your coming out of it is what all the underlying stuff 00:02:33.63\00:02:38.70 You know because that is what is going to trip you up. 00:02:38.73\00:02:40.86 So now I'm going to introduce you to a group that 00:02:40.89\00:02:44.69 I've met while I was in Maine. 00:02:44.72\00:02:46.28 I was doing a high school week of prayer in Portland, Maine. 00:02:46.31\00:02:50.26 I was asked to speak at Teen Challenge which is, 00:02:50.29\00:02:53.91 I love them I'm telling you, this is a ministry that not 00:02:53.94\00:02:58.25 only works with teams but works with adults but keeps 00:02:58.28\00:03:01.55 you until you get it, you may never get out again. 00:03:01.58\00:03:05.90 No it keeps you for a long time. 00:03:05.93\00:03:07.58 But I want to introduce you to Mylynda and Mylynda we 00:03:07.61\00:03:11.60 met a few months ago, maybe not even two months ago. 00:03:11.63\00:03:14.89 Yeah it was two months ago. 00:03:14.92\00:03:16.50 Okay and you were at Teen Challenge. - yes. 00:03:16.53\00:03:19.17 We are studying right now on this season, we are 00:03:19.20\00:03:21.43 studying on step four, that fearless moral inventory. 00:03:21.46\00:03:24.62 Have you ever really started to look at your own stuff? 00:03:24.65\00:03:27.21 Um, yeah I've looked at my own stuff and like I'm pretty 00:03:27.24\00:03:32.52 scared of it. Okay. 00:03:32.55\00:03:34.65 For a lot of people even step, they decide not to do 00:03:34.68\00:03:38.95 this step because it is scary to look at. 00:03:38.98\00:03:41.27 But before we talk about that with you let's talk about 00:03:41.30\00:03:43.85 who are you? Where you came from? And all that stuff. 00:03:43.88\00:03:47.60 You look to me like an angel. 00:03:47.63\00:03:54.10 Yeah I look like an angel I'm trying to be like one but 00:03:54.13\00:03:59.44 I really wasn't one before. 00:03:59.47\00:04:00.90 So I grew up in a home with both my mom and my dad. 00:04:00.93\00:04:04.82 - where at? - in New York City - okay. 00:04:04.85\00:04:08.07 My dad and my mom were Christians and they're a good 00:04:08.10\00:04:12.24 happy family and everybody looks at us. 00:04:12.27\00:04:13.79 I never had people living at my house there was just me, 00:04:13.82\00:04:17.02 my mom and my dad. 00:04:17.05\00:04:18.43 My dad was always constantly verbally abusing my mom. 00:04:18.46\00:04:22.04 - and you watched that, I don't think they thought 00:04:22.07\00:04:25.58 you watched them, but you watched them. 00:04:25.61\00:04:27.49 No they knew I was watching them. 00:04:27.52\00:04:29.62 I used to crawl underneath my table which was like my 00:04:29.65\00:04:32.58 secret spot and just to get away from everything while 00:04:32.61\00:04:36.17 they would be arguing and all this violence in my house. 00:04:36.20\00:04:39.33 And when I was eight years old my dad cheated on my mom 00:04:39.36\00:04:44.87 and they separated and that really affected me bad but 00:04:44.90\00:04:51.06 at the same time I was happy because I knew no more 00:04:51.09\00:04:54.07 arguing. - exactly, the house wouldn't be so crazy. 00:04:54.10\00:04:57.15 Yeah, I was always in the middle of all their arguments. 00:04:57.18\00:04:59.93 So when they divorced I hadn't got to 00:04:59.96\00:05:04.10 see my dad until another two years. 00:05:04.13\00:05:06.01 I had got pretty good grades in school and I was okay with 00:05:06.04\00:05:09.82 everything had innocent friends and innocent fun. 00:05:09.85\00:05:14.09 I was pretty humble, but I was always out there crazy, but 00:05:14.12\00:05:17.74 a good crazy. - like to play, like to laugh? - yeah. 00:05:17.77\00:05:21.68 I love laughing, so I got to finally see my dad when 00:05:21.71\00:05:25.64 I was 10 years old and I had like not much problems, 00:05:25.67\00:05:29.92 I was so happy to be with him, I always been a daddy's girl. 00:05:29.95\00:05:32.85 So when was 12 years old I started hanging out with the 00:05:32.88\00:05:37.95 wrong crowd. - why, what happened? 00:05:37.98\00:05:40.07 Because it sounded like until then it was like? 00:05:40.10\00:05:43.21 It's just like my mom always try to warn me about drugs, 00:05:43.24\00:05:46.60 alcohol and never to try it, if you try it your hooked on it. 00:05:46.63\00:05:50.72 I never believed her, I'm like alright nothing looks mean. 00:05:50.75\00:05:54.93 Still innocent, so I got into a group of friends that were 00:05:54.96\00:06:00.71 just having fun with their life but not my type of fun. 00:06:00.74\00:06:05.03 But I found their fun like drinking, using drugs, having 00:06:05.07\00:06:09.33 fun and going out every night having fun. 00:06:09.36\00:06:11.75 So I told my mom about them and my mom didn't agree with 00:06:15.08\00:06:19.46 them, but she was like I know my daughter she would never 00:06:19.49\00:06:22.05 do this because I explained to her all the things. 00:06:22.08\00:06:23.96 But while my mom and my dad broke up it was like my mom, 00:06:23.99\00:06:27.44 they were married for 24 years, so she felt like out of 00:06:27.47\00:06:31.98 a cage like she could do and have fun. 00:06:32.01\00:06:34.73 So she went kind of wild? - yeah she went kind of wild 00:06:34.76\00:06:37.12 and plus my dad was around to watch me. 00:06:37.15\00:06:39.86 So my mom would leave me at her best friend's house 00:06:39.89\00:06:42.73 and I hated it there. 00:06:42.76\00:06:44.14 So I felt like my mom whatever she wants to get away 00:06:44.17\00:06:47.37 she would just leave me there and come back whenever 00:06:47.40\00:06:50.03 she wanted, or whatever and I just hated it there. 00:06:50.06\00:06:52.59 So I felt like I wasn't much cared for, like of course 00:06:52.62\00:06:55.91 she would be there for me but I don't know how to explain 00:06:55.94\00:06:58.74 it. - well I got a great picture is that everything 00:06:58.77\00:07:03.36 you thought of, your dads gone but it's going to be okay 00:07:03.39\00:07:06.24 not realizing that now mom is gone too, but she is gone 00:07:06.27\00:07:09.15 for different reason. 00:07:09.18\00:07:10.43 She is just partying and saying I want to have fun. 00:07:10.46\00:07:12.52 - yeah. - yeah. - so I started to do my own thing. 00:07:12.55\00:07:15.50 I started hanging out with that crowd and then when I was 00:07:15.53\00:07:19.95 12 years old and a half I started being with my dad more 00:07:19.98\00:07:24.81 at his house. 00:07:24.84\00:07:26.34 I started getting close to him but then again he had a 00:07:26.37\00:07:29.44 girlfriend that he constantly abused, physically abused 00:07:29.47\00:07:32.65 and verbally abused. - so you are watching it all over again? 00:07:32.68\00:07:35.10 Yeah, and at the same time my little sister and 00:07:35.13\00:07:37.11 my little brother was born. 00:07:37.14\00:07:38.33 So I always have to take care of them, so that 00:07:38.36\00:07:41.90 was the only reason I went to his house was to watch 00:07:41.93\00:07:43.92 them to be with them and have fun with them. 00:07:43.96\00:07:46.59 I'm their sister and I just hated that girl. 00:07:46.63\00:07:49.20 So at 13 years old, on December 8, 2008- when you say 13 I'm 00:07:49.23\00:07:54.84 thinking, and I know that it is your life so you don't feel like 00:07:54.87\00:08:00.44 that, so 13 is a baby. Have you ever looked at a 13- 00:08:00.48\00:08:03.33 year-old and think I was doing that at 13 and she looks 00:08:03.36\00:08:05.72 like the baby. - yeah, it's like when you are in high 00:08:05.76\00:08:08.01 school and you are in tenth grade ninth-grade and look 00:08:08.04\00:08:10.63 at eighth graders and they look so baby, well again you 00:08:10.66\00:08:13.90 were just there a year before, so I know how you mean. 00:08:13.94\00:08:17.11 But before December 8, 2008, my mom was in the hospital with 00:08:17.14\00:08:23.42 kidney stones, she suffers with kidney stones. 00:08:23.45\00:08:25.96 - I heard that is really painful. - yeah. 00:08:25.99\00:08:28.96 Yeah she says is like worse than having a baby. 00:08:29.00\00:08:31.25 She would rather have a baby and I'm like wow. 00:08:31.29\00:08:33.47 So I had to be with my dad, and I don't really want to 00:08:33.50\00:08:37.42 go because I hated the arguing in the place, I want to just be 00:08:37.46\00:08:42.28 with him but some thing told me to go with him. 00:08:42.31\00:08:44.92 So I went with him and my brother offered to come 00:08:44.95\00:08:47.50 pick me up instead of staying there with my dad, some 00:08:47.53\00:08:50.35 thing told me to turn it down so I ended up with my dad. 00:08:50.39\00:08:54.07 One day I was sleeping and my dad's girlfriend, her name 00:08:54.10\00:08:57.75 is Julie, she woke me up she said Mylynda wake up, 00:08:57.78\00:09:00.76 your dad is on the floor, wake up, wake up. 00:09:00.80\00:09:02.89 So I woke up and came to the living room and found 00:09:02.92\00:09:05.80 my dad dead on the floor. - dead? - yeah! 00:09:05.84\00:09:08.32 I didn't know how to deal with this. 00:09:08.35\00:09:11.46 - liked that shocked me even just hearing it, it's like 00:09:11.49\00:09:16.39 nothing, nothing makes sense with that. 00:09:16.43\00:09:21.42 And my dad always had asthma and high blood pressure, 00:09:21.46\00:09:25.79 but he was always one to keep us strong and he would have 00:09:25.82\00:09:30.12 a pump and it would be over and done with. 00:09:30.16\00:09:32.79 So I'm like it's okay, the day before he really had bad 00:09:32.83\00:09:37.52 asthma but I was like he was going to be okay and that night 00:09:37.55\00:09:40.19 he was gone, so I guess he wasn't really that strong. 00:09:40.22\00:09:44.59 She was just in complete shock and me being so young 00:09:44.62\00:09:48.92 I had to be the one to call the cops, I had to be the one 00:09:48.95\00:09:51.84 to do everything while she was just in complete shock. 00:09:51.88\00:09:55.05 So after that - well you did, sounded like you did. 00:09:55.09\00:09:58.19 - yeah I did it. - Did you allow yourself to feel at all? 00:09:58.23\00:10:01.40 Like what was happening the fact that this is my dad? 00:10:01.43\00:10:04.57 At the same time I was in shock myself but I was 00:10:04.60\00:10:08.54 working myself through it and I was going with the flow 00:10:08.58\00:10:12.28 whatever the cops told me to say and do, I would do it. 00:10:12.32\00:10:15.95 While she was just there, so at the same time I'm so young and 00:10:15.99\00:10:19.81 she is like 25 and my dad was like 60 or something so 00:10:19.85\00:10:23.77 that was a big age difference, so she was really in shock. 00:10:23.81\00:10:27.08 Even when they're on the phone telling you is he breathing? 00:10:27.11\00:10:30.03 Is he doing all that kind of stuff, and you are the one 00:10:30.06\00:10:32.94 that is checking all that? - yeah. - wow. 00:10:32.98\00:10:34.72 So my little sister and my little brother came out to see 00:10:34.75\00:10:37.71 what was happening and they see their dad on the floor. 00:10:37.75\00:10:41.53 So my little sister is like my daddy's sleeping, its okay. 00:10:41.56\00:10:44.79 She goes daddy isn't sleeping he's dead, he's dead and 00:10:44.82\00:10:48.11 I didn't know how to explain so I had to plan my dad's 00:10:48.14\00:10:51.39 funeral with my mother and Julie. 00:10:51.43\00:10:54.30 That was really hard for me, I missed school and every 00:10:54.34\00:10:57.79 body found out about it and plus going back to school 00:10:57.82\00:11:01.24 was just so hard. 00:11:01.28\00:11:02.86 So I had standards for myself before my dad died, like even 00:11:02.89\00:11:06.23 hanging out with the wrong crowd I didn't let myself get 00:11:06.27\00:11:09.57 to that point where they were at. 00:11:09.61\00:11:11.67 I began getting angry, but not much, because I didn't notice 00:11:11.71\00:11:15.08 it do till now that I can see why I really did this before. 00:11:15.11\00:11:18.44 I used to smoke cigarettes but not very often. 00:11:18.48\00:11:21.81 A drink here and there. - just to fit in? 00:11:21.85\00:11:24.46 - Not enough to that point I had to you know? 00:11:24.50\00:11:27.08 - right. - so you know after my dad died 00:11:27.11\00:11:29.33 everything went like I didn't care about anything at all. 00:11:29.36\00:11:32.77 I started using weed, started smoking weed and drinking 00:11:32.81\00:11:36.49 and just everything, violent and angry towards everyone 00:11:36.52\00:11:40.88 around me so in the summer of 2009 I became an alcoholic. 00:11:40.91\00:11:45.75 How old were you? - I was 14, yeah and I started moving 00:11:45.79\00:11:50.59 up to bigger crowds and older crowds. 00:11:50.63\00:11:53.63 So when you say alcoholic, in my mind I'm thinking that 00:11:53.66\00:11:57.65 you had an awareness that you had to drink, you had to be 00:11:57.68\00:12:01.68 high, that you could tell when I didn't have this my body 00:12:01.72\00:12:05.58 couldn't kick in. - I felt weak, I felt like I had to have 00:12:05.62\00:12:10.42 it and then so my mom wasn't really aware of anything that 00:12:10.45\00:12:14.61 was going on much, but like she knew something was wrong with 00:12:14.65\00:12:18.78 me and she couldn't really figure it out. 00:12:18.81\00:12:22.83 So one day she drug tested me when I came home and the 00:12:22.87\00:12:26.48 results didn't come back in until a long time after. 00:12:26.51\00:12:30.05 By then I was so mixed up myself I was lost, I didn't care, 00:12:30.09\00:12:34.90 I thought I was okay, like this is normal teenager life, 00:12:34.94\00:12:39.68 but it really wasn't. - right because now you are drinking and 00:12:39.72\00:12:43.07 doing whatever? - yeah, so I was hardly home and my mom 00:12:43.11\00:12:47.47 trusted me and she trusted her daughter would not use drugs, 00:12:47.51\00:12:51.26 trusted her daughter to not drink alcohol because that 00:12:51.30\00:12:54.29 was everything my mom taught me. 00:12:54.33\00:12:55.85 So she was really wrong about that and the results came 00:12:55.89\00:12:59.74 back and she punished me for two months, which I feel 00:12:59.78\00:13:03.59 that was worth it - you're in the house. - yeah. 00:13:03.63\00:13:05.99 You're not going anywhere. - not going anywhere, no 00:13:06.03\00:13:08.74 phone, no computer, no nothing, no TV I'm stuck in the 00:13:08.78\00:13:11.46 house for two months. 00:13:11.49\00:13:12.83 She said a year but I hardly thought that was going to happen 00:13:12.87\00:13:15.65 but it happened for two months. 00:13:15.68\00:13:17.07 Was her hope that somehow she could get you disconnected 00:13:17.10\00:13:21.97 from whatever group and clean out your body? 00:13:22.00\00:13:24.76 I don't really think that was her purpose, her purpose 00:13:24.79\00:13:29.63 was to teach me not to do it and by figuring that by 00:13:29.66\00:13:34.39 her punishing me it would like just have me not do it 00:13:34.43\00:13:39.12 anymore. - okay. 00:13:39.15\00:13:40.29 Just to learn my lesson. - because to me I would be 00:13:40.32\00:13:42.76 thinking it is a detox and you are going to eat 00:13:42.80\00:13:45.17 watermelon and you're going to have fruit and water and 00:13:45.21\00:13:48.44 I would think that you are really going to start pumping 00:13:48.48\00:13:51.64 you with good healthy things but hers was this is a punishment. 00:13:51.68\00:13:55.48 I want you to know that what you did is not okay. 00:13:55.51\00:13:58.09 - yeah. So instead of helping me I really thought from 00:13:58.13\00:14:01.50 the beginning, like I always wanted to go and do what 00:14:01.54\00:14:05.07 ever I wanted to do and by her having me in the house 00:14:05.10\00:14:08.54 it just made me want to rebel when I actually got out of 00:14:08.58\00:14:11.82 the house, so whatever I would do I would do it triple 00:14:11.86\00:14:15.04 times worse because I'm never, home, I'm never outside. - right 00:14:15.07\00:14:19.29 So after she found out I started having sex when I was 14 years 00:14:19.32\00:14:23.50 old, and she found out and I ended up telling her 00:14:23.54\00:14:27.26 and she flipped out about it a lot. 00:14:27.29\00:14:29.70 That's when she punched me also the same time she found 00:14:29.74\00:14:33.75 out what my results came back from my drug test. 00:14:33.79\00:14:36.37 So she like just freaked out. - yeah, her little girl is 00:14:36.41\00:14:41.59 doing all of this, so she was really like freaking out. 00:14:41.62\00:14:46.67 So in October I got off punishment and she still didn't 00:14:46.70\00:14:51.71 trust me after finding all these things out. 00:14:51.74\00:14:53.72 - because she's smart. - she's a little more aware 00:14:53.76\00:14:57.60 of what her daughter was doing. 00:14:57.63\00:14:59.28 Even though that she would love to be in denial she 00:14:59.31\00:15:01.59 couldn't. - yet she knew she couldn't, not anymore. 00:15:01.63\00:15:04.32 She could not trust me, I would tell them here and she 00:15:04.36\00:15:07.01 would catch me a lie in a second, I'm not here 00:15:07.05\00:15:09.54 I'm over there. 00:15:09.57\00:15:10.54 So in October I started really get into unhealthy 00:15:10.55\00:15:14.66 relationships and doing whatever I wanted to do. 00:15:14.69\00:15:18.76 Can I ask you something Mylynda because I know in my own 00:15:18.79\00:15:23.81 life the answer to this, but in your life, when you 00:15:23.85\00:15:28.40 realized that now I can lie at the drop of a hat. 00:15:28.43\00:15:32.92 I can play people, I can steal from you, I can do all that 00:15:32.95\00:15:36.99 kind of stuff, did you ever think at this point, not later 00:15:37.03\00:15:41.00 on in your recovery, but at this point did you ever think I don't 00:15:41.03\00:15:43.73 know if I want to be that person? 00:15:43.76\00:15:46.46 Um I always knew I was different from others, like I still feel 00:15:46.49\00:15:53.10 like I'm different from others and my mom every time I did 00:15:53.14\00:15:57.12 something wrong she would be like you are not normal, 00:15:57.15\00:15:59.07 you are not a really normal teenager. 00:15:59.10\00:16:00.89 And the point is I'm not a normal teenager, I always saw 00:16:00.93\00:16:03.67 it different whether it was a bad different or a good 00:16:03.71\00:16:06.90 different. So I always knew there was good in me and 00:16:06.93\00:16:10.05 I wanted to be good, it just I couldn't find where it was 00:16:10.09\00:16:13.86 and how to be it. - You had lost it. 00:16:13.90\00:16:15.80 Yeah but I knew I had potential I was just too lazy 00:16:15.83\00:16:19.62 and just wanted to do what I wanted to do. 00:16:19.65\00:16:21.81 I didn't listen to anybody. - so what happened? 00:16:21.84\00:16:24.92 So in October I got into an unhealthy relationship where 00:16:24.95\00:16:29.34 I was physically abused and I just felt like worthless. 00:16:29.37\00:16:33.73 Like I felt like this is it, I'm hopeless. 00:16:33.76\00:16:37.29 I am here getting abused and I see my mom was verbally abused 00:16:37.33\00:16:41.44 and I see my dad hitting his girlfriends. 00:16:41.48\00:16:43.44 And now you're that? That's what you hated - yeah. 00:16:43.48\00:16:46.43 I hate, I used to run from it. I went under the table and 00:16:46.47\00:16:49.39 pretend nothing is happening. 00:16:49.42\00:16:51.00 I'm like in this whole other world but now 00:16:51.03\00:16:53.84 I am living it so I began to cut myself. 00:16:53.88\00:16:56.62 So what did cutting do for people that don't know? 00:16:56.65\00:17:00.60 Well cutting now I look at that and didn't do anything 00:17:00.64\00:17:04.56 for me, it just made it worse and just may me more angry 00:17:04.60\00:17:08.10 and more just like I feel it would take away the pain, 00:17:08.13\00:17:11.60 but in fact it just brought more pain back then. 00:17:11.64\00:17:14.21 So I ran away also, a few times while I was home just 00:17:14.24\00:17:19.24 to get away from my problems and from my mom and it just 00:17:19.27\00:17:24.23 didn't work out and left me emptier. 00:17:24.27\00:17:26.08 So in December of 2009, yeah 2009 I start hanging out with 00:17:26.11\00:17:31.29 the crowd from New Jersey and they got me into cocaine, 00:17:31.32\00:17:36.46 I got myself into cocaine. 00:17:36.50\00:17:37.94 - right because we really, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:17:37.98\00:17:41.53 So I got into cocaine and that was like nobody really 00:17:41.57\00:17:45.39 knew about it, like my close friends or people I used to 00:17:45.43\00:17:49.22 hang out with just beside that crowd. 00:17:49.25\00:17:51.22 I felt embarrassed to tell them, like how far I'd gone 00:17:51.26\00:17:54.97 and got into. - because they would say really you're doing 00:17:55.00\00:17:58.51 Coke? - but then again they are smoking weed and I look 00:17:58.54\00:18:02.37 at them like what, that's cool nowadays but it really 00:18:02.40\00:18:06.97 isn't cool, so I started using cocaine and just started 00:18:07.00\00:18:11.53 rebelling even more. 00:18:11.57\00:18:13.47 And my mom felt out of it, like her daughter and not her 00:18:13.50\00:18:17.59 daughter and she started punishing me more and more. 00:18:17.62\00:18:21.64 The more she would punish me the more I would want to get 00:18:21.67\00:18:24.11 out. - because she didn't know what else to do, she was 00:18:24.15\00:18:26.55 feeling like my only recourse, the only thing 00:18:26.59\00:18:30.30 I could do is punish you, but it wasn't working. 00:18:30.33\00:18:33.98 Yeah punishment for me I felt wasn't working because like 00:18:34.01\00:18:37.51 it would make me want to do even more. 00:18:37.54\00:18:39.86 It's like if you tell me sit down, I just want to stand up. 00:18:39.90\00:18:43.81 So that spirit of rebellion gets in us, I don't think people 00:18:43.85\00:18:48.64 realize how strong that is, that is I am angry and I'm going 00:18:48.67\00:18:52.57 to do the opposite of everything you say and I'm going to smile. 00:18:52.60\00:18:56.47 Um hmmm, and I always wanted to love from a guy the way my 00:18:56.50\00:19:01.66 dad would give it to me. - but dad wasn't around. 00:19:01.69\00:19:05.67 Dad wasn't around, like my mom had her fiancé now and 00:19:05.70\00:19:09.06 he has been in my life since eight years old after my mom 00:19:09.09\00:19:12.33 and dad broke up. At first out I was like I didn't really 00:19:12.37\00:19:15.57 like him, but I love him to death now. 00:19:15.60\00:19:17.72 I just wanted that attention from a guy still. 00:19:17.75\00:19:21.64 So I never really found it much, I can say that now. 00:19:21.68\00:19:26.26 Right, so with all of this what got you in a place where 00:19:26.30\00:19:30.84 all of a sudden, what got you to Teen Challenge? 00:19:30.88\00:19:34.37 And did you ever come to a place where you are saying 00:19:34.40\00:19:39.06 I think I get it, I think I'm coming back to myself? 00:19:39.09\00:19:44.45 Well in May of 2010 my mom landed in the hospital with 00:19:44.48\00:19:48.84 almost kidney failure and I decided to run away and 00:19:48.87\00:19:53.19 abandon her there in the hospital. 00:19:53.23\00:19:55.12 That was my mom's reassurance of her daughters needing 00:19:55.15\00:19:59.05 help so I came to Teen Challenge on June 21. 00:19:59.08\00:20:02.88 Because if she is saying I am in the hospital and sick 00:20:02.92\00:20:05.86 and you are not going to be here that must mean that you 00:20:05.90\00:20:08.81 are really out of control? - yeah. 00:20:08.84\00:20:10.33 - so they physically brought you to Teen Challenge? 00:20:10.37\00:20:13.89 Did you fight it? 00:20:13.92\00:20:14.96 I was living with my brother for a few months because mom didn't 00:20:15.00\00:20:19.02 know how to control me so she figured Paul her brother 00:20:19.06\00:20:22.49 I could have a better type of relationship with her and 00:20:22.53\00:20:26.40 help her, because he's a guy and she knew I needed a guy, 00:20:26.44\00:20:30.28 - like a Father figure. - like a Father figure. 00:20:30.32\00:20:33.10 Yeah that didn't work very much. 00:20:33.14\00:20:36.03 So on Father's Day I was at my moms house and my mom told 00:20:36.06\00:20:40.81 me we were going to my brothers house, so I thought 00:20:40.84\00:20:43.30 we were supposed to go to my dad's cemetery and visit him 00:20:43.33\00:20:46.22 there but we ended up going to my brothers house and 00:20:46.25\00:20:49.04 they told me there I was walking into Teen Challenge 00:20:49.07\00:20:51.82 the next day and I was like so mad. 00:20:51.86\00:20:58.61 I just didn't know how to deal with it, so I left it 00:20:58.65\00:21:03.13 alone and said okay I'll go. 00:21:03.17\00:21:05.48 The next day they were driving me to Massachusetts from 00:21:05.52\00:21:09.40 New York and we passed by Six Flags in Springfield and 00:21:09.43\00:21:12.47 I thought this was a joke, I thought they were taking me 00:21:12.50\00:21:15.47 to Six Flags instead. Yeah like this is really going to be fun! 00:21:15.51\00:21:18.95 Yeah I'm like you guys got it, I understand. 00:21:18.98\00:21:23.23 They were like know you are really going so I went 00:21:23.27\00:21:26.13 Teen Challenge and the first thing I saw was this sign 00:21:26.17\00:21:29.00 saying that we believe in miracles. 00:21:29.03\00:21:30.32 I didn't think that was going to happen to me, 00:21:30.35\00:21:33.29 I didn't believe a miracle could happen in me because 00:21:33.32\00:21:36.07 I felt so hopeless - hopeless in what? 00:21:36.10\00:21:39.49 Hopeless to my mom like she punishes me, my mom tried so 00:21:39.53\00:21:43.01 hard and I don't think this is going to work like my mom 00:21:43.05\00:21:46.24 has tried - like I'll never be able to change? - yeah. 00:21:46.27\00:21:49.43 Like I'm stuck in this is who I am. 00:21:49.47\00:21:51.00 As I said I want to change, I just never felt like I 00:21:51.03\00:21:54.63 could change, so I became a Christian a month after that. 00:21:54.66\00:22:00.04 - no way. - I always knew there was a God. 00:22:00.08\00:22:03.69 - what happened, did the program did they, did you go to church? 00:22:03.73\00:22:09.84 Did you have Bible studies? - we went to church 00:22:09.87\00:22:12.02 on Sunday and we do a chapel like three times a week. 00:22:12.05\00:22:16.02 They enforce God a lot in us, they enforced it but 00:22:16.06\00:22:19.73 I wanted it - you wanted it in your heart. - um hmmm. 00:22:19.76\00:22:23.40 I felt like I wanted to know God, I wanted to have that 00:22:23.44\00:22:27.05 relationship that everybody here has. - I love that 00:22:27.08\00:22:29.78 because that is the ultimate Father, so that everything 00:22:29.81\00:22:32.79 you craved God is. - He showed me His unconditional love 00:22:32.82\00:22:35.77 God the Father which I always wanted 00:22:35.80\00:22:38.14 I wanted to feel at peace with Him and I finally found it. 00:22:38.18\00:22:43.71 Yeah I was actually on my bed that night on July 14 and 00:22:43.74\00:22:48.37 I just cried out to God and let Him know everything I did 00:22:48.40\00:22:52.39 and what I wanted and I felt like He could give it to me. 00:22:52.42\00:22:56.37 So I gave myself to Him. 00:22:56.41\00:22:57.90 - Amen, what changes, like did you notice changes that 00:22:57.93\00:23:02.50 happened within you? 00:23:02.54\00:23:03.87 I didn't want those things I had before anymore. 00:23:03.91\00:23:08.09 Like at the time while doing those things I felt like 00:23:08.13\00:23:11.29 I needed alcohol or I needed a relationships, guys, 00:23:11.33\00:23:14.42 drugs, all these things and I just don't want it anymore. 00:23:14.45\00:23:18.52 I just don't. - so you know of a lot of people that 00:23:18.55\00:23:21.21 have not met God, or that has some kind of understanding 00:23:21.24\00:23:25.60 with God but on a head level. 00:23:25.63\00:23:29.66 They don't realize when God says I will change your 00:23:29.70\00:23:32.93 desires, and when the Bible says I will change your very 00:23:32.96\00:23:36.21 desires, we think is that really how You do it, 00:23:36.24\00:23:39.06 and it is isn't it? - hmmm, and when I was younger and 00:23:39.09\00:23:41.68 my mom always told me that she wanted to be my best 00:23:41.72\00:23:44.65 friend when I am older, and when I got to the point or 00:23:44.69\00:23:47.82 my problems start kicking in, like I tried going to her with 00:23:47.86\00:23:50.68 minor problems and I realized she couldn't handle them like 00:23:50.72\00:23:54.51 she would end up punishing me, so I knew she couldn't handle 00:23:54.54\00:23:58.30 my bigger problems? I could imagine how she would 00:23:58.33\00:24:00.56 react to them. 00:24:00.60\00:24:01.96 So now like me and her are talking a lot more and 00:24:02.00\00:24:04.74 she is actually becoming that type of mother that 00:24:04.77\00:24:07.73 I always wanted. - that's awesome. - I know sometimes 00:24:07.77\00:24:10.90 I might be a little hard on her, but I know she does 00:24:10.94\00:24:14.02 everything that is best for me. - exactly, you can love 00:24:14.05\00:24:16.85 her and understand what she is trying to do anyway. 00:24:16.88\00:24:19.49 And she's putting the effort in to try to understand 00:24:19.53\00:24:22.06 her daughter as well, because I never felt like she could 00:24:22.10\00:24:25.20 understand me, but now we are trying to understand each 00:24:25.24\00:24:28.45 other and He is just healing me and my relationship with 00:24:28.49\00:24:32.12 her and with my family and helping me to depend on Him and 00:24:32.16\00:24:35.09 not drugs. - how long have you been in Teen Challenge? 00:24:35.13\00:24:37.64 I have been in Teen Challenge, it is going to be nine 00:24:37.67\00:24:41.56 months, it's been so far along party, but I still have 00:24:41.60\00:24:45.46 a long way to go. 00:24:45.50\00:24:46.84 So you are not planning on getting out any time real soon? 00:24:46.87\00:24:50.10 I always felt like when I first walked in that my mom was 00:24:50.13\00:24:53.32 going to miss me because now she is home alone, 00:24:53.35\00:24:54.90 she doesn't live with her fiancé. 00:24:54.93\00:24:57.23 She's all alone and I know she's going to need me and 00:24:57.26\00:25:01.21 she's going to come and give me any day now, but that day, 00:25:01.25\00:25:03.67 I used to look out the window because I had this top 00:25:03.70\00:25:06.64 bunk so I would look out the window waiting for my mom's 00:25:06.68\00:25:09.26 car to come up the driveway, - because she needs me. 00:25:09.29\00:25:11.89 - because she needs me and I've been here for 9 months 00:25:11.93\00:25:14.57 and she hasn't came and I'm not expecting her to come. 00:25:14.60\00:25:17.20 What she really needs is for you to get well. 00:25:17.24\00:25:19.62 She wants me to get well, and even if she told me do 00:25:19.66\00:25:22.75 you want to come home, I don't want to come home, 00:25:22.78\00:25:25.80 I want to finish this for the first time. - that's amazing. 00:25:25.84\00:25:29.74 I want to thank you for sharing that, your journey with 00:25:29.78\00:25:33.68 us and I know that you are not done but my prayer for you 00:25:33.71\00:25:37.19 and what you had said when I met you at Teen Challenge is 00:25:37.22\00:25:40.66 that you really see yourself someday even going into 00:25:40.70\00:25:43.71 ministry? - yeah, I want to help others because I know 00:25:43.74\00:25:46.56 there's billions and billions of people out there with 00:25:46.60\00:25:50.17 something that I struggled with and by the testimony God 00:25:50.20\00:25:53.73 has given me and the love that He is shown me 00:25:53.77\00:25:55.80 I can help others to bring them towards Him. 00:25:55.83\00:25:57.79 - that's incredible, that's incredible and we are going 00:25:57.83\00:26:00.40 to go ahead and take a break. 00:26:00.44\00:26:01.53 When we take a break I want to introduce you to one of 00:26:01.57\00:26:04.46 the other girls that are in Teen Challenge that I met 00:26:04.49\00:26:08.52 when I was out there and I just love the journeys, 00:26:08.55\00:26:13.03 I love these girls, I love from where, I love God and 00:26:13.06\00:26:17.47 I love the fact that He can pull us out of all this stuff. 00:26:17.51\00:26:19.65 So stay with us, we will be right back. 00:26:19.68\00:26:20.92 And I will introduce you to Megan. 00:26:20.96\00:26:23.83