Welcome to
Celebrating Life In Recovery,
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I'm Cheri your host,
today we are going to talk about
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your organization
Teen Challenge. - yes.
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You've got to join us in,
it's an incredible organization
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and you get to
meet some of the kids,
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that's my favorite part.
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You know I travel a lot,
and what is really fun about
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traveling is that I get
to meet some folks that have
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incredible stories, you get
to meet them as I meet them.
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If they have good story
I bring them right here.
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But some of my favorite
things to do are treatment
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facilities and so today I
get to bring in Teen Challenge.
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I loved them, Teen Challenge
is, well I'm going to let
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them explain what it is.
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But I get to meet people
in recovery, sometimes I look
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at the girls or the young
men that are in Teen Challenge
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and I think you know what
they are me, that's exactly
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what I would have
said at that time.
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If they cuss me out, or
if they are excited about the
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recovery, either one you
may run into and I just think
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oh that was me,
how cute are you.
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I love it and so I'm going
to introduce you to a couple
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today and we are going to
have some more on the program
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next week so I just be
blessed, just be blessed.
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I'm going to start Apryl
with you, and the first time
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I came to Teen Challenge
and I came in and I saw you and
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I wanted to hear your story.
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You know what is,
where did you come from?
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I was surprised when you
said no really it's not me,
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it's my family.
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So start us out about
your family and how did you get
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involved in this organization?
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Okay, well I can
definitely do that.
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Both of my parents are
actually recovered drug
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and alcohol addicts.
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My mother was an alcoholic
for many years, up until the
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age of 22, she struggled
on and off and finally entered
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treatment at a Teen Challenge
program actually located in
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Garrison New York which is
called The Walter Hoving Home.
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Were you born yet? - no,
no I wasn't, this was all
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before I was born.
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My father at 18 years old
also entered the Teen Challenge
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program, he tried every
drug there was, he stole cars,
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and was a mess at 18 and
had nowhere else to go and Teen
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Challenge was the only
program that would accept him.
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So both of them, that is
how their journey started.
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From there God
transformed their lives.
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Which is what I love,
what I love too about some
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organizations like Teen
Challenge, is when you say
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nobody else would even
want to touch him. - right.
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Yet there are programs
that will say, you know what?
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You don't scare us,
come on in and sit down.
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They will come in angry
and rebellious and lying and
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manipulating and trying
to play everybody and within
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a short period of time
they get their life back.
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And God does that,
it is so fantastic.
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My first home was the
Boston Teen Challenge which was
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then called Boston Outreach
and my parents started it.
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- you was born there. -
Well I was born close by.
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My first home, I was brought
home from the hospital was
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to see the Boston Outreach
Team Challenge on Bloomfield
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Avenue in
Dorchester Massachusetts.
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So you never saw your
parents acting out, using, or
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- no. - they probably
have the stuff because we all
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have stuff. - right,
right absolutely no family is
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perfect but at the same
time I saw God shine through my
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parents, they are amazing
example to me as a kid and
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even now as an adult,
it's somebody I can look to.
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When I hear your story, I
know my daughter was born way
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after my recovery and I
do ministry so I feel like
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I am looking at
Jackie my daughter.
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I feel like she has the
same story, so I want to ask you
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things that maybe I would
love to even ask her is that
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when you hear your parents,
cause you hear them tell their
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story, you gave me a book
the story was in the book.
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Like when you
hear them tell you your
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story what do you think?
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Were you ever ashamed
of where they came from?
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Absolutely not, to me
it is the greatest miracle.
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I wouldn't be here if it
weren't for the power of God,
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think about it, both of
my parents met God and they
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would have never met if
it weren't for the fact that
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they went through
treatment and recovery.
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Met at a school designed
specifically for graduates of
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the Teen Challenge
program. That is where they met.
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Then later on they married
and four years later I show
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up, and so if it weren't
for the power of God I wouldn't
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be here, my life wouldn't exist.
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So there is a joy in
their journey? - absolutely.
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When you first recognize,
like when you were little,
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for a long time and I'm
sure you didn't even know they
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could tell their story and
it would even realize that they
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were different, or had a
different background than some.
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But if you were
raised in Teen Challenge
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maybe they didn't, - right.
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But when you first heard
it and realized there was
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a difference and they had
all this chaos and all this
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craziness or was all this
rebellion, anything, did you
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think about that? Did
you think about you know?
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You know what, my thoughts
whenever I thought about my
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parents, I mean as I was
growing up well my parents were
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really interesting, not
that other people's parents were
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boring, but kind of. I mean
come on, your average church
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family, I'm kind of
going to be that boring parent
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just a little because I had that
crazy testimony in the back.
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Now my testimony I think
is awesome because I was able
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to at a young age to grow
up in the Lord and trust Him
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and know He would take care me
the rest of my life and walk in
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love with Him, but at the
same time looking at my parents
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and looking at their testimony
and where they came from
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no, to me it was
great. Now all the time people
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are going your dad thought
he was Geronimo, that's part
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of this testimony.
- he did? - Oh he did.
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He was high on something,
stole a van, ended up he was
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surrounded by police and he
thought people were after him.
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He was one of those crazy
stories, now everybody's like
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yeah but what
about your dad Geronimo.
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He used to have long hair in
braids and now he has a short
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flat top, but to me that's
like a movie when I hear his
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story, it's hard for me to
imagine that that was my dad,
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but that was his story
and to me it's like hey look,
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I want you to hear my
dad, I have never been ashamed.
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If there was a day when
they can come in, I remember a
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couple of times they came
when I went to a Christian
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school, they came in and
spoke, my father did chapel,
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to me I was so proud that
day, because their story, well
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their story is the miracle
of my life, but their story
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shows more than just me,
people around the world that
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God is still in the
business of miracles.
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They weren't done, Jesus
wasn't the end of miracles.
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The disciples were
at the end of miracles,
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but God is still doing
that, so their lives are
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at testimony of that.
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And as you can see I
just love it, I just love it.
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I mean I love the fact
that I get to work in a place
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that I know every day
whether it be the turnaround of
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not getting the ump, the
attitude from a teenager to.
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- because you do. - oh
I do let me tell you but
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at the same time it is getting
that response that I know,
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even if it's small step,
to see that turn, that change,
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to see that young lady
kneeling during her prayer time
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and really just
seeking the Lord.
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- that has never
prayed before. - right.
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- That's huge, you know
what is amazing to me is the
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joy that you have in your
face and the love that you have
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for your parents it's so
tangible. And I love that.
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Did you ever feel
like you wanted to act out?
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Did you ever feel
like you wanted to go out
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and kind of be that crazy?
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I had moments when I thought
about it, but the thing is
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that, well you can ask my
parents, I was a rebellious
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teenager at one point
too. Maybe not to the extreme,
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I definitely wasn't the
easiest kid at 13-14-15, but I
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knew even then I can
remember being at a convention
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and they had a prayer time
for those who felt called into
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ministry and I wouldn't go,
I wouldn't go down, I wouldn't
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go down and I could feel
like my heart was beating out
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of my chest. I could feel
it and I knew, and I knew.
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Finally I was just like
God, I haven't shared this yet,
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but I grew up eight
years of my life I spent on the
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mission field in
Parquet South America.
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They were opening Teen Challenge
there, those were the first
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rehabilitation programs that
ever existed in the country.
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So in my mind, here I was
14 years old, I didn't need
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any more, I already did my
Ministry, did you know Lord
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I grew up in the mission field?
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But you know what, it was
then that I really knew in that
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calling that my heart was
just beating, and I knew, okay
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God if this is what you
want from me than this is what
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I'll do, and from there
birth a desire and a love.
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I mean I grew up
around it and I just love it.
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Yeah, so you end up and
take that call and you come in
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and you start to work in
the lives of these, I call
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them kids, I know sometimes
they hate me saying that.
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These kids, we
don't come in very easy.
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Some come in kicking and
screaming and we want to run
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away, we hate you and all that
stuff, nobody has ever been in
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some of the stories, nobody
has ever been there for this
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child and they just don't
trust anybody and so they come
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in not pleasant at all. -
chuckle, chuckle you're right.
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I am, I am in our house in
Teen Challenge, it is an active
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one, but it is also a
home that we pray, when I pray
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for our house is that
even as a new student walks in
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with their lives
filled with chaos, unrest,
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that they would
feel the peace of God.
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Just to surround them, Heh
we have girls who have moments,
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whether it be on their first
day are they make it through
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a couple weeks and they hop
on a window and we have to go
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find them, Heh it
happens, that does happen.
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At the same time I think
it's only the Lord because
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I feel like even
when my heart breaks,
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He just mends it back together.
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There are times when you
hear the stories of the these
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ladies and my heart is
just broken for them because
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I know that their lives
were in shambles, but to know
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when somebody walks in and
you have heard their story,
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many of our girls to come
to us because their parents
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placed them with us in
our program. - yeah, right.
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But to read their story
you know on paper and to know
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the brokenness, and the
chaos and to watch them walk in,
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the greatest part about my
job is knowing that that is not
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the girl I'm going to see
leave Teen Challenge. - Amen!
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And you know that - I know
it, I watch them walk across
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the stage, whether they
walk across the stage or they
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don't make it to the
stage - it's almost like
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a graduation? - yes, yes,
yeah they have a graduation.
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But when they do that
it's then if they're up there
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I am still amazed, every
time I know God is going to do
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something amazing, but
it's like I never, I never cease
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to be amazed by the power
of God in watching these young
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ladies really
become someone that
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I couldn't even Envision.
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And I have watched
it over and over again.
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So what really is, your faith
because you saw it with your
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parents, like I know this
is true, I know this is going
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to happen, and the
more you see it the more
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you have faith in that.
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Could you tell us a story
that really got to you from
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the beginning to the end.
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Okay, a story that
really got to me, well.
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I guess I'll talk
about my husband's story.
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My husband is a graduate
of Teen Challenge as well.
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Walked through the doors of
Teen Challenge at 20 years old,
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a heroine addict hopeless,
no one else would take him,
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same type of the
story, nobody would take him.
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He had too many court dates,
too many charges, it wasn't
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going to happen, armed
robbery, his life was a mess.
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He didn't believe, - look
at your sweet face and I'm
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thinking, God that
is an incredible pair.
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So he didn't believe in
anything and was very jaded?
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I mean just to the core,
nothing, to him religion and
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God is a crutch.
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How weak, he tells stories
about one time he worked in
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a deli and there was a
lady there who was a Christian
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and he used to just
berate her, and berate her.
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I can't even believe it
knowing the man that he is now.
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But he came through the door of
the Teen Challenge, six months
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in he really gave his life
to the Lord and started to get
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his life on track and met
God and felt love, felt peace.
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- for the first time.
For the first time, yeah
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Things that he had
been searching for his
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whole life, in drugs, in
relationships and the people
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around him, but they
weren't going to fulfill that.
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He had that deep nagging
feeling, but he kept filling it
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with all the wrong things.
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So here a hopeless heroine
addict, as I say a heroine
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addict for ever, hopeless.
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He went through the program
at Teen Challenge, finish
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the program and we met in
the span of the end of him
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being at the program.
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To me I just said oh look
he's a nice guy, he was a friend
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of a friend and whatever.
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He says that that moment
he knew that I was the one.
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I don't know I guess so.
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What is really interesting
is that as God changes us,
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and one time I was in the
restroom and this girl was
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crying and I went up and I
said to her can I help you?
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She was so sad and just in
tears, she said you probably
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wouldn't understand a
thing that I'm going through.
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I thought stop I'm homeless,
heroine addict, and have all
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that background, but even
like with your husband as God
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changes us you could hardly
see our background because
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God really says let me
take all those grave clothes off
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of you and dress you.
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It's amazing. - so he
sees you, he knows you are the
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one, what did you think?
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Well I thought he's a funny
guy, he's nice I like him but
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there was no thought
beyond that at that point.
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I mean come on, he's a
student in Teen Challenge so my
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mind is not going to Hey
you are prime relationship
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material, - that's funny.
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But I will tell you, but
one of the biggest miracles he
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had nine felony
charges against him.
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He was in court week after
week they had him in court.
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In the end he received a
judge who said we are going to
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give you a chance, he could
have been in jail until 2013
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and I would never
have even met him.
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But he, on those charges
was released with three years
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probation because which
are long completed already.
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Because the judge even saw
there's a change in this guy.
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Yet there's a change in
this guy. - that God does and
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what a miracle and then
to see that, and that is how
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my father knew that he
was definitely a man of God.
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Because at that
point when he looked at his
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record and pulled out
his student file, you know
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he is my dad and he is
going to go check into this.
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- teenage challenge guy.
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Right and he's liking him and
he is like, okay we really need
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to check this out, so
he checks them out and when
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he saw that, he
said alright the hand of
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the Lord is on this man.
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So the story
from there continues.
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So for a lot of people, a
lot of people watching even,
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that even when you see all
of those miracles it is hard to
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believe that God is changing
this person and this person
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is walking out
new. - right, right.
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This is not the same person
and how, do you have even any
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suggestions on how you
get someone to do that kind of
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shift in their head?
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Especially when you are
looking at someone who is coming
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out of recovery, their
lives are not perfect like
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I'm saying, not even my
parents changed, transformed,
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married, me four years
later, still not perfect.
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They still have their
own stuff going through and
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processing and so patience,
patience is the greatest
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gift and grace, I mean God gives
us so much grace but in that
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also they began to
develop new skills.
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Like is the first time
they are learning them, because
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you have to remember someone
who is coming into recovery
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is really restarting
whenever they started using.
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So for my husband who
started abusing his prescription
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pills as a kid at 10
years old, you go far back.
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ADD, on meds, and given him meds
taking extra pills here, there.
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So he started those
patterns at 10-11 years old.
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That is very young and most,
of his life- so even he is an
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adult body, he's a 10 year old.
- right, right, so but not now.
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I know - We're not
talking about you now Hon.
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I love you, so you know
it's in that, you have to give
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them that grace and
patience to allow them to start
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rebuilding from the past
you know, and remove those
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childish ways, but remain
as Christ says with the faith
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of a child that is that new
wonderest twilight in the eye
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feeling. - so now you are
looking at him knowing that
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he has got this joy of
his recovery, he is stepping
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into a new life, and you
are having to trust that.
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Was that hard at first?
- you know what, honestly
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because I have known him as
the man that God created him
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to be, as much as there
have been struggles, there have
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been trials, I know with
all my heart that you know what
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God, what ever you bring
us through, You are going to
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bring us completely
through, You are not going
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to leave us in the middle.
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- if he needs to learn
something else he will have to
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learn it. - if
that's what has to happen,
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that's what has to happen.
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But at this point I love
that I can leave my life in
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God's hands because what
is the point of me holding on
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to it, I can't do anything
with it that's going to turn
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out alright so leave it
in God's hands and know and
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trust Him, He is going to
be the one, He is the perfector
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an author of our faith. -
Amen, so you have been married
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how long? Three years. -
so you are kind of newlyweds.
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- yep we are. - so dad
got, even though he saw his
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record, dad just, you know God's
hand is on him and I am okay
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with that. - yep. -
everybody has been blessed.
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Yes, absolutely and not
only that but then the story
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continues, well a year
before we married, on December 1
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December 1, 2006 my mother-in-
law, 56 years old, 30 year
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alcoholic walked through
the door of Teen Challenge.
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- no way. - yes she did.
- because and I just want
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you to say this because
a lot of people think Teen
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Challenge, they think
teens. - right. - so how does
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your mother in law
walk through the door?
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Well Teen Challenge we actually
have predominately adult
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centers, we have scattered
teen centers around the United
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States, and we also have
Teen Challenge is a worldwide
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organization, so we have
Teen Challenges across the
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globe, but when it comes to the
program although the first 10
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years were mostly, which
was 58-68 were mostly for teens.
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At the time they realized that
the affects of gang-life drugs
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and alcohol effected way
more than just a population of
00:19:56.57\00:19:59.70
teens and young adults, and
so from there they opened up,
00:19:59.74\00:20:03.07
although we kept the name of
Teen Challenge, which at that
00:20:03.11\00:20:05.95
point had already caught on.
- That's because everybody knows
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it now. - right everybody knows
Teen Challenge so here we are
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50 years plus into it
and we are still called Teen
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Challenge but yes we have
adults centers across the United
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States as well as
across - it's really worldwide.
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I use you guys all the time
come if I can't find a place
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for someone I know that I
can go online, Google Teen
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Challenge in that city
and in that state and find
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a place for someone to go.
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And what really is amazing
is that I have never had a
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center turn down anybody
that we have sent, so I don't
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know what the criteria is
but it must not be, I've never
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really had anyone say I
called them and talk to them
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and they said no.
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You know we want our
doors to be open to everyone.
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We don't want anyone to be
turned away and that is one
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of our primary goals, we
want to reach all of those
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who are hurting, we want to
reach the addict population.
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The? say that 1370
youth will try an illegal drug
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within the hour, within this
hour, every hour that is how
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it many. - how
many say it again.
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1370 youth, -
every hour - every hour.
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And if we are not aware or
having places that we can help
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them they are going to get
lost and will lose years of
00:21:20.39\00:21:24.58
their lives
sometimes. - right, right.
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Especially now, you know
in these times things are much
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more prevalent, drugs are
rampant, alcohol is being tried
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younger and younger, our
school campuses is one of the
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highest percentages of
places where drugs are sold.
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School campuses and that is
not just our public schools,
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that's all schools,
that's every school.
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So to look at those statistics
and know okay we have got
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to do something about this.
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So setting things in
place that there is preventative
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measures, parents get
involved with your kids young.
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That is one of the things
that is very important, start
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talking to them young.
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- what do you
mean getting involved?
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In other words start
talking to your kids young about
00:22:04.33\00:22:06.35
their choices, you know
what? One of the greatest things
00:22:06.38\00:22:09.52
you can do is wrap them
in your arms, love them and
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hang out with them,
have family time with them.
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Because you know what?
A lot of time you'll hear
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stories from some of our
young ladies who, yes they
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had parents, they did have
people that were around whether
00:22:19.95\00:22:24.70
it be broken families or not.
00:22:24.74\00:22:26.54
Some had whole families,
but in the process of that still
00:22:26.58\00:22:29.70
may be the time wasn't there.
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So that is so important,
right everybody is working and
00:22:31.87\00:22:35.96
everybody is tired
and just not enough time.
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And then again there is
also the choice, each adolescent
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will come to a place
where they're going to make a
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decision, but the more you
start filling their minds with
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first of all their own
self-worth, that is the biggest
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part of the
problem is low self-esteem.
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So starting them out
with how great they are, how
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precious they are, not
just in your site but in God's
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sight as well. - Amen.
We are going to go ahead
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break and I want to introduce
our audience and the people
00:23:01.84\00:23:05.73
in the café to one of the
girls and hear her story and
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her journey, but I would
like you to come back at the end
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of the program, is
that okay? - of course.
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Okay so are
going to take a break.
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One of the things I just got
to say is that no matter what
00:23:15.38\00:23:19.42
you are dealing
with, God pulls us through.
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And what is really fun is
to see the next generation.
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When you give up your
stuff and watch your children
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and all the sudden they
haven't taken a drug, they
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may rebel but maybe not.
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Maybe I will just have a
regular life and my parents love
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me and all that kind of stuff.
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So I look at Apryl and
just think how fun is that.
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That for some of us addicts
we can say that our legacy
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changes and know that if
you have any problems there are
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places to go all over the world.
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Teen Challenge is one of
them but there are a ton of
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places so we are going to
take a break and we will be
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right back and you'll meet
Nicole and you will love her.
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