Welcome back, I really have enjoyed our time together. 00:00:12.27\00:00:16.83 Martin Weber, you wrote a book and you talked about all 00:00:16.87\00:00:20.59 this stuff in your book and I am grateful that you put 00:00:20.62\00:00:24.65 it down, but I know you have a story that you told about 00:00:24.69\00:00:28.13 a funeral you did at the Salvation Army so I would like 00:00:28.16\00:00:31.57 you to share that with us. 00:00:31.60\00:00:32.87 You know the Salvation Army is there for people when they are 00:00:32.90\00:00:36.87 hurting and a fellow chaplain and I were involved with 00:00:36.90\00:00:41.44 a number of other pastors in the daily Ministry 00:00:41.47\00:00:44.51 to homeless people. 00:00:44.55\00:00:46.38 One of them died prematurely and we were having his 00:00:48.90\00:00:53.06 funeral and I was talking about how precious Scotty was. 00:00:53.09\00:00:57.74 Suddenly in the middle of hearing all this, somebody 00:00:57.78\00:01:02.36 jumped up in the audience and said precious, he is nothing 00:01:02.40\00:01:07.00 but a blankety-blank. - yeah cat litter. 00:01:07.04\00:01:10.55 - so he was angry? - yes, yeah! 00:01:10.59\00:01:12.11 He was disgusted that I would be talking about 00:01:12.15\00:01:14.64 preciousness in relation to this guy whom 00:01:14.67\00:01:16.94 he had roomed with. 00:01:16.97\00:01:18.55 Or he slept under a bridge with actually. 00:01:18.59\00:01:21.69 So it very disruptive to the service if you can imagine. 00:01:21.73\00:01:26.32 I had an intern there whose eyes were real big, 00:01:26.36\00:01:29.63 what do you do with this? 00:01:29.67\00:01:31.07 I couldn't just ignore it, so I walked on down the middle 00:01:31.11\00:01:35.13 row to where he was standing and I said, praying all the 00:01:35.16\00:01:39.15 while, I said why would you say something like that 00:01:39.19\00:01:42.22 about Scotty? 00:01:42.25\00:01:44.20 He said well he was nothing but a drunken son blankety- 00:01:44.23\00:01:46.54 blank, and he was getting worse. 00:01:46.58\00:01:49.52 I thought dear Lord this thing is getting out of hand. 00:01:49.55\00:01:52.01 What now, please make it in a teaching moment. 00:01:52.04\00:01:54.79 You know I like when you told me this earlier, it was like 00:01:54.83\00:01:59.52 everybody around this guy was almost smiling at the fact 00:01:59.55\00:02:04.21 that he was getting to the preacher. 00:02:04.25\00:02:05.74 Yes getting to the preacher, putting me on the spot. 00:02:05.77\00:02:08.76 It was amusing for them, even though it was a funeral. 00:02:08.79\00:02:12.93 So here he is nothing but a drunk, so then I asked him. 00:02:12.97\00:02:17.11 I said, did the fact that Scotty had a drinking problem 00:02:17.14\00:02:21.25 make him any less valuable to God? 00:02:21.28\00:02:24.81 All of a sudden everybody was quiet because they all did 00:02:24.85\00:02:28.64 too, so this was about them suddenly. 00:02:28.68\00:02:31.84 So thank you for that, I really wanted to end with that. 00:02:31.87\00:02:35.57 It is that our addictions don't make us any less valuable 00:02:35.61\00:02:39.27 to God, our craziness, our hormonal imbalances, our 00:02:39.31\00:02:45.53 biochemistry out of whack, anger issues, we're fearful and 00:02:45.56\00:02:51.24 all those things God says, you are so valuable to Me. 00:02:51.27\00:02:55.69 I'm just asking you, and especially this season is if you 00:02:55.73\00:02:59.26 are going to maintain and avoid relapse, if you are going 00:02:59.29\00:03:02.37 to get out of addiction and into recovery you have to 00:03:02.40\00:03:05.44 start doing this maintenance thing. 00:03:05.47\00:03:07.16 Let people around you, let God, let the Holy Spirit just 00:03:07.20\00:03:12.20 show you who you are. 00:03:12.24\00:03:13.65 How to heal from these things, fears like what Martin 00:03:13.69\00:03:16.32 Webber was talking about, he had to heal from those, 00:03:16.36\00:03:18.93 but more than that then how to step out and offer healing 00:03:18.96\00:03:23.29 to someone else, and I do that every day. 00:03:23.32\00:03:26.31 Every single time I talk to another addict and I see the 00:03:26.35\00:03:29.42 hope wake up in them, you see the fact that they get it, 00:03:29.46\00:03:32.50 I heal a little bit more so it is the way it works. 00:03:32.53\00:03:35.30 It is huge and it is the way God has always planned it. 00:03:35.33\00:03:38.48 He says I will teach you who you are and then please 00:03:38.52\00:03:41.63 stand up and really get a hold of that. 00:03:41.67\00:03:44.94 Let your life unfold like that and teach someone else. 00:03:44.97\00:03:48.71 It is amazing, I'm so glad you joined us. 00:03:48.74\00:03:51.75 I'll see you next time and until then always remember 00:03:51.79\00:03:55.30 that God is crazy about you and me too. 00:03:55.33\00:03:58.20 God bless! 00:03:58.23\00:04:01.79