Welcome back! My favorite
thing, and even as I travel
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we are going around the
world now, especially since this
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program has been out.
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I get to hear testimonies
from every place, every country
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and is just amazing that
my favorite thing is to watch
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somebody's eyes as they
tell you their joy of being
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able to get out from
underneath something.
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Whatever their addiction
is, whatever their fear is,
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we did this on the first
program is when people think
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addiction they think
drugs, drinking, but it's sexual
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addiction, gambling, lying,
eating disorders, depression,
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anger, and all that stuff.
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But as you see somebody
getting out from underneath that
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and you see the joy it
is so incredible to see.
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That is, I think, the energy
from this program comes from
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the fact that people who
were once subject to this stuff,
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has gotten the victory,
the recovery aspect of it.
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It makes it so real and
makes it such a strong Ministry,
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because someone sitting in
the home figuring I am the only
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one, by myself and no
one is ever going to see me.
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I'm going to be here and
never be able to defeat this
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thing, turns on the television
set and hear someone saying
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I used to be right
where you're sitting.
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- and I felt the same way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah and I
can tell you there is victory
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because I've got it.
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That to me, I'm glad you
mentioned it, because there was
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a person that I met
recently that has no idea how
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incredibility gifted she is.
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I know that and I know how
that feels because after 10
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years of homelessness,
and not being able to read and
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stuff and somebody
said God has a plan for you.
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I think are you kidding
me, what plan could He have?
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I don't know
anything, I don't do anything.
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What would you like to
do? I don't know, I don't even
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know who I am.
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So speaking into the lives
of somebody that feels just
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that, is just saying I'm
excited for God to show you.
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In time He unfolds that
for you and you think, stop I
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didn't know I could do that.
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I didn't even know I had
that gift or that talent.
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So watching every single one
of these testimonies, you see
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people wake up to that.
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That God says you don't
even know who you are, and I am
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excited to show you,
and I think that is fun.
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Some people are thinking that
before He can help me, He has to
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know where my address is,
He doesn't know that I exist.
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To come to the realization
that He knows who you are.
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He has been following you
and tracking you and now He is
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ready for you to make that turn.
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The sadness in the heart of
God, that for years and years,
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maybe even from birth, that
we believe the lie that we are
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nothing, and God says you have
never been nothing, you are My
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Child and I love you.
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That's what maintenance is
in recovery and it's amazing.
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As soon as you can get over
this fighting for your recovery
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from addiction, then I can
start showing you who you are.
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The addiction was never
who you are, it's what you fell
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into, that's what your
family was into, that's what you
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jumped into in
high school or whatever.
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But you are amazing, you are
a child of God created by Me.
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Sometimes Cheri, God doesn't
even define us the way we
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define ourselves, we allow
these things, this baggage to
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define us, and God
says I see way beyond that.
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You are not nothing, you
are something, you are really,
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really something and I am
going to show you that if you
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you'll just give
Me an opportunity.
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- exactly! - Yeah
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I have talked many times
about when God finally said,
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I'm not telling you not to
do your recovery stuff and the
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things you do everyday,
but do something else too.
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I learned piano and art and
started taking up cycling not
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Long ago and God says let
Me show you some things that
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are going to help
you laugh out loud.
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We're going to do another
role in, in this role in I love.
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I'm going to start with
Raven, and Raven has this
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incredible history, she was
molested and because of the loss
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of a father, not having a
father grabbed hold of what ever
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relationship and really
defined herself by that.
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Got in to even homosexuality,
maybe I'm gay or whatever.
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She really started to allow
God into her life and bring
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healing, it's just amazing.
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You are going to love her.
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Lee and Amy both were into
New Age but from different parts
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of the country, they were
raised in the same area and
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didn't know each other.
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They were just searching, maybe
I'm connected to everyone woman
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in the spiritual
realm, and whoever existed,
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or past life stuff.
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They get into a lot of that
and both of them came into a
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relationship with God and
with recovery and then met each
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other, so with them it's
amazing to listen to them.
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Dan and Angela is another
couple that we interviewed this
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season, Dan was raised by a
schizophrenic mother and had
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this horrible
sadness his whole life.
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I'm not even sure that
the drugs, the alcohol and the
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occults that he got into was
a result of this little child
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that had nothing, and then
he got into escort services,
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prostitution,
and all this thing.
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At the end of the day, and
this is true for any of our
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addictions, at the end of
the day we are still empty.
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At the end of the day to
grief is horrendous, because I
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have grabbed all this
stuff into my life and am empty.
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I am lost, I
don't know what to do.
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At that point you step
into recovery, and God says you
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have never been lost and
I love you and will walk you
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every step and the joy you
will see in these testimonies
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are amazing so
enjoy the role in.
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It seem like I was trying
to put the pieces together
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because in my brain
nothing was coming together in
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chronological order.
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But my upbringing was
very disturbing, it was.
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I was abused early and I
was picked on constantly.
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It seem like I was just
the underdog for the majority
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of my life, and after being
raped, and the difficulty I
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found the most is that
no one seemed to notice that
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something was wrong with me.
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And that just thrills me
and it is what I am under-
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standing now, 17
years since I found Christ.
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I found Him again last
year after the birth of my first
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child and through many traumatic
experiences after the birth.
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You know, go on with that
because I think a lot of times
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people think that seeking after
means behaviorally I get it
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right, change my behavior
and strive to be good enough.
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God said who told you that?
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Right, Jesus has done it
all and He showed me, He showed
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me that He is broken over us.
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That's what He revealed to
me, He showed me that His pain
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has been caused by my sin
and that is what turned me
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around and caused me to
fall in love with Him again.
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I just wanted to say that
in my situation it was the same
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thing with my growing up years.
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I was in one cult and found the
Lord through Billy Graham in the
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middle of two cults and I
was involved in another one with
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my husband, but both of those
was the same thing where you
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are not good enough,
you're not good enough.
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The second one was so severe
it was almost like you believe
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all these things and you
have to have a lot of faith.
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If you do not have enough
faith, perfect faith, then you
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are not good enough and
God is not pleased with you.
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Because of the last cult, since
I did not have enough faith
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everyone blamed me for all
these things that God couldn't
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bless us with because I
didn't have enough faith.
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Wow, that is so impressive.
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Cheri I never, it never
ceases to amaze me the kinds of
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things that people find
themselves in and the kinds of
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coping mechanisms now
that they develop for recovery.
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How God assists
them in that recovery.
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In fact you can fall into
the deepest hole and you could
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get out, that there is
hope to get out regardless
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of what you have done,
regardless of what you have
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done to yourself, or
what has been done to you.
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You can get out, I think
that this is a message this
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program has been
giving for six seasons.
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Even when you think you are
lost you are not because God
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knows where you are
and He is ready and waiting
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to help you get found.
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You know even in the last
role in where they were talking
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about initially you think
it is your addiction, or you
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think it is the alcoholism,
or you think it's the drug
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addiction, the sexual addiction
like what Dan was saying.
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Then you realize, for Dan,
he was raised by a schizophrenic
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mother and you
realize how does that feel?
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What kinds of things were
set up years before you tried to
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self medicate, you know he
talks about paying an escort
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service and he finally has
a girlfriend, well he doesn't
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he paid someone $150 and yet
for him that was the only real
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connection that he ever
had before he started to trust
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in the recovery
process and jumped into that.
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The only sense of
normalcy he had was abnormal.
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It was a mom who couldn't
read, you couldn't fathom from
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one moment to the next,
let alone one day to the next.
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So then you develop these
mechanisms to sort of heal
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yourself and they don't work
so now it is like what do I do?
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It's so crazy, I love when
in his interview particularly,
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he was talking about a woman
that stepped in to his life.
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She stepped into his life
and would say to him that is
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crazy thinking,
that is crazy thinking.
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I just have to say God
bless you for saying that.
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For addicts that's what
we need, someone to hold up
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a mirror and say, most of
us are too polite, or we think
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we're too polite that
we don't want to just say,
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you know what that is nuts.
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That's nuts, write it
down and let's process that.
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She would make him do that,
write it down, write exactly
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you thought down and I'm
going to tell you every crazy
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thing you have said.
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He said there were times
that the entire 8, 9 pages,
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she would say
that's a crazy person.
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But that is what he learned
was reality and someone stayed
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with him for day after day
after day and said we are going
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to walk through this,
we're going to learn this.
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A lot of folks have asked
me, Cheri what do you think of
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medications or whatever.
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I think there is a place
for all that, but we use more
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medications than we need to
because people don't stay with
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us, do you know what I mean?
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The body of Christ even,
recovery even, AA it doesn't
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matter because they come to
meetings every night, 3 times a
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day if you need to, but
the body of Christ doesn't
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necessarily have
the time to do that.
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So hear me, I'm
calling you on that.
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For some of these folks,
somebody somewhere said let me
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just stay with you on this,
and that is an incredible thing.
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God stays with us and He
brings people in our lives that
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actually do the same thing.
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We have another group
that I would like to share.
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I love when I get to bring
my friends in, because I know
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them and every
part of their recovery.
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It's fun to share that with
you, so Jason and Rachel had
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probably one of the
bigger tattoo shops in our area.
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They are covered and
using and crazy, I mean crazy.
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Had a lot of stuff and
they decided at one point that
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because of the junk that
was coming up constantly,
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that their marriage wasn't
going to last, nothing was
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going to work for them and
they ended up coming into our
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church just to work with
somebody on the marriage issue.
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It was fun to watch God
just step in and say welcome.
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You'll enjoy just their
testimony and how real it was.
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She had years of prostitution
and abuse and cutting.
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He had the same kind
of thing, just craziness.
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Had a child born that
was strung out on heroin and
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his ex-wife dies
in her addiction.
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So then with all that trauma,
all that damage you finally
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stand up and say
are right I am ready.
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I wish we were smarter, I
wish we would say alright I am
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ready sooner, but God says
I don't care when you say it.
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I can bandage, heal or
whatever so in this particular
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story is about that.
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Then the other two role in's
I that I want you to see are the
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same couple, they
are some friends of mine.
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He's a meth addict and
she's got co-dependencies and
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relationship
addictions that are huge.
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I would come into church
and look at him and he'd be
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so high, in worship he
was hitting the bongos,
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I'm like, you know what?
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Get in the Pastor's
office, what is wrong with you?
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He'd say what?
I'd say are you high?
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No, I'd say you are high
and he was like no I am not.
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He said I have an accountability
partner here at church.
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I said who is it? and he
would name some Boy Scout that
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has no idea about addictions
and can be played easily.
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He finally would
admit to being high.
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Knowing that for him the
church was the only safe place.
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So one of the interviews I
did with them was the whole
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journey coming out of meth
addiction, coming out of all
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that and understanding
were some of the injury was.
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But I wanted them to do another
program talking about the
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roots of that, like when we
were talking about Dan earlier
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who was raised by a
schizophrenic mother.
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With Jeremy and Heidi, Jeremy
was molested as a little boy.
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His father left and he was
not protected by a lot of men.
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Lack of stability in his
home and then was molested again
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by a pastors wife who said I'm
going to leave my husband and
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marry you and then he
jumps into meth addiction.
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He had to really allow God,
not only the first part of his
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recovery, but then to step
into where the roots of all this
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were so they don't just settle
there and cause a relapse.
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So enjoy this role
in, how I love these guys.
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It wasn't fun, my drinking
was, it ruined a lot of things.
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It wrecked my
life. - it robbed you?
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It really did and I got a
DUl and locked up in a jailhouse
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in orange county and they
let me out and I put my car over
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a fire hydrant, and I was
trying to get it off the fire
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hydrant with the guys in my car.
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The water is coming up and
I am soaked from toe to chest.
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They got me in the car and
take me over to the house and
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they did not have any jumpsuits
so I spent the night in wet
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clothes until they let me out
at six o'clock in the morning.
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So I have to walk 21/2 miles
back to my studio, my kingdom.
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Of course I have to call
mommy, I got a DUl and as I'm
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talking to her at 6:30 in the
morning, I'm cracking a beer.
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Was your mom trying
to intervene at all?
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She tried but I was becoming
a rebel, I was rebelling
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against everything that
she was trying to do for me.
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So I would run away, I was
on the streets when I was 16,
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sleeping in these
tunnels with a friend of mine.
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I was couch hopping and
doing whatever I could, a lot of
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car hopping which is
basically breaking into cars and
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finding whatever I
could just to get me by.
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The molest wasn't really
the hardest one, that was pretty
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easy because I forget
that person a long time ago.
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The hardest one was
with the pastors wife.
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When we came upon that
one I broke down and cried
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like a 15-year-old.
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I love the fact that God just
says I am going to walk with
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you, I'm going to teach you,
and I know I keep saying that,
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but it is because it is true.
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And there is a part of me that
I know and the more we cover
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it, the more I get to where
I am thinking, you know what?
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I'm not relapsing when tragedy
hits, I'm not doing that kind
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of stuff, but I am still looking
at one more step, one more
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thing to learn, one more
hurt I didn't know was in there.
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I hope this makes sense, but
Brad and I are working on some
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things at one point and he
said to me, let's talk about
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because the other day you were
really mad at me, and I was.
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I get mad in a quiet way
and it's really loud because I'm
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not a yeller and I don't scream,
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you know what I do. - yeah!
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Like he would say what is
wrong and I'd say nothing, I am
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alright, and he is
like you never are silent.
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So when I am silent
people around me say
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okay what happened?
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So he was like,
let's talk about it.
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I really don't want to have
all this stuff unspoken in our
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lives, so I say whenever I
come home from doing an event,
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I'm doing something and
even we brought my Pastor in.
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I wanted someone to
work with us on this one.
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So Pastor Joe, and I love him,
we brought Joe in and I said,
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whenever I come back from a
major event, you will ask me
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how much money did you make?
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I'm thinking, I hate
that, you ask me that.
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He doesn't
understand why do you hate that.
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I just hate that and I said
at one point sometimes I feel
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like just shooting you and
telling you to leave my house.
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I want a divorce, this is crazy.
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This rage and anger, and I
don't want to see him, I don't
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want to come home, I don't
want that question to be spoken.
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I know that that is a
little over the top, right?
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So finally Joe says, when is
the first time you felt that?
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I was on the street working
in a club and a heroine addict
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that I was
working for said, Cheri,
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how much money did you make?
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I didn't know that I associated
that with that question
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when Brad asked me thinking
you cannot make this Ministry
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into something that's
dirty, or something not good,
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or whatever, and whenever
that question was asked,
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I took it all the way back
to being homeless on the street,
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and strung out, and
working for someone else.
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In that moment I felt like
the Holy Spirit said, Cheri,
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let it go it was
never about that for him.
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So I think in our recovery
when our buttons get pushed,
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we are reacting in crazy
ways, we don't even know why we
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are acting and should
ask God even in prayer.
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If you have to bring someone
in to help you with that.
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Even in prayer just say Jesus
where did I just go with that?
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Let Him tell you, he went
all the way back to a molest,
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back to an abuse, all way
back to a crazy schizophrenic
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mother and God says, I
want to set you free from that.
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That's what makes the show
so incredibly relational is
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because you have never come
from a I got this thing sewed
00:19:23.39\00:19:27.33
up kind of space, you're always
in here learning with you.
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I'm in here recovering with you.
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I've got warts, I got
holes in my game, I'm not solid,
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I'm not totally healed.
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I'm not saying look at me
I've got this thing together.
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Hey we are in here together
trying to keep each other from
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drowning and
swimming upstream together.
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What I love about that is,
and God is saying, He is excited
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that we get close to an issue
and He senses that this is the
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time she is going to
be able to let that go.
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I think all of heaven just
rejoices, there is a celebration
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This has been a plague for
years and now she is doing it
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without drugs, but it is
still hurtful and plaguing her.
00:20:07.19\00:20:10.63
God says, I really do want
the joy of the Lord to be your
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strength, it says that in
the Bible, that is our strength.
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But when we have all these
injuries, somebody says when we
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have, they were telling
me all these infirmities,
00:20:21.93\00:20:25.62
all these things that
get at us and they gave
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an example of a tree.
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When you cut into a tree,
this huge tree, there is rings
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on the tree that tells the
years of how old this tree is.
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But the rings will show
years of drought, years of fire,
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years for the tree almost
didn't make it, pestilence,
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or abuse or some
kind of bug got in there.
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You can actually see that
in those rings, but you can't
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see it when the tree
is just standing there.
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When you cut into
it you can see it.
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I think that in our hearts
it is the same way, so God knows
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that we have those years of
damage that sometimes we don't
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surrender to Him, and in the
fact that I try to do it myself,
00:21:02.91\00:21:07.82
I try to hold myself, try
to walk with it is like having
00:21:07.86\00:21:10.95
baggage, I have
this extra baggage.
00:21:10.98\00:21:12.92
God says you can't
walk with that anymore.
00:21:12.95\00:21:14.83
So in our maintenance part
of recovery just saying can
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I give this to You then?
Can I just give You this then?
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He says yes, I've
been waiting for years.
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So when I gave that thing
about the money issue with Brad,
00:21:23.15\00:21:27.29
when he asked me how
much money did I make?
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When I saw it for what it was,
then when I looked at Brad's
00:21:29.19\00:21:31.89
pain he started to just
weep when he realize that I
00:21:31.92\00:21:35.73
thought that he
looked at me that way.
00:21:35.77\00:21:37.97
I thought that he had meant
it that way, he just cried.
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He said, I have never, I
love you with everything in me
00:21:41.49\00:21:44.90
and I would never want
to hurt you in that way.
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He said I am so sorry that
you have ever been hurt that
00:21:47.17\00:21:50.28
way and I am looking at
him thinking so it's ridiculous
00:21:50.32\00:21:53.40
that I'm still carrying this.
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Jesus said yes, give it
to Me, surrender it to Me.
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I felt a freedom and it
was absolutely unbelievable.
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I know, like you said, as
I walk through this journey
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I want to say can we just
do a show today because I want
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to tell somebody that.
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When we do the program and line
this up we are really saying
00:22:12.52\00:22:16.72
that as we learn, as the person
who gives the testimony learns
00:22:16.75\00:22:20.91
we want to share with
you so that you can get it.
00:22:20.95\00:22:23.27
Maybe it will cut those
years where you are carrying the
00:22:23.31\00:22:26.78
baggage to cut them shorter
where you can surrender it
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faster or easier and
that I think is amazing.
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It is an amazing
thing to be able to do.
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With knowledge comes
change of perspective.
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You got some knowledge of
where he was coming from and he
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surely got some knowledge
of where you are coming from.
00:22:39.74\00:22:42.61
So there comes a change in
relationship, they are in if
00:22:42.64\00:22:45.48
for no other reason
lies the value of this show.
00:22:45.51\00:22:48.41
That it gives us perspective
because it gives us a
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knowledge base, hey
she went through that.
00:22:51.34\00:22:53.88
She was strung out on
heroine, she was on the street,
00:22:53.91\00:22:56.66
she knows all that
stuff, I am not alone.
00:22:56.70\00:22:58.63
Let's see what she did because
maybe that will work for me.
00:22:58.67\00:23:01.77
For six years we have been
seeing that and we will see it
00:23:01.81\00:23:04.69
again very, very powerfully
in this particular season.
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Yeah with everybody story,
with everybody's testimony.
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Again I want to say the
biggest thing about this season,
00:23:10.88\00:23:13.96
and I really didn't even know
how we were going to go with
00:23:13.99\00:23:17.19
this season other than I wanted
to present the testimonies.
00:23:17.23\00:23:20.75
I really wanted to just
get a visual of how God changes
00:23:20.79\00:23:24.28
a life, but again
realizing that the entire base,
00:23:24.31\00:23:29.42
the entire teaching or
learning was to press into God
00:23:29.46\00:23:34.53
and to learn to pray.
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'Pressing into His Presence',
00:23:35.86\00:23:37.78
Shelley's book, the
thing I loved about that.
00:23:37.82\00:23:40.48
She said that when she gets
away from that connection with
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God, when she gets away from
that daily bringing it to God,
00:23:44.61\00:23:48.63
and figuring out who He is.
00:23:48.67\00:23:50.63
Sometimes I think we go
and just say I want to ask your
00:23:50.66\00:23:55.25
forgiveness for this, and this,
and this and okay then this.
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We come and just lay everything
out at Him as if somehow He
00:24:00.07\00:24:04.79
needs our junk, I'm
not saying that's wrong.
00:24:04.83\00:24:08.09
It's incredible, but He is
not a pagan god in that sense.
00:24:08.12\00:24:12.08
He doesn't need us to
confess for that reason.
00:24:12.11\00:24:14.76
He says I have all
kinds of stuff to give you,
00:24:14.80\00:24:17.38
so if you come just to give
Me your junk, and you never wait
00:24:17.41\00:24:21.72
long enough for Me to pour
into your life, it will take
00:24:21.75\00:24:26.62
longer, this recovery
thing will take longer.
00:24:26.66\00:24:28.74
So the 'Pressing into His
Presence' hopefully is a book
00:24:28.78\00:24:31.66
that will teach you how to press
in and let His victory, His
00:24:31.69\00:24:36.75
love, His knowledge of recovery,
which is greater than mine.
00:24:36.78\00:24:41.80
But His knowledge of
recovery can be poured into our
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lives, so I know you have
some reference to this book.
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The acronym that
she uses is praise.
00:24:50.21\00:24:53.80
So every morning she gets
up and spent an hour with God.
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She does it on her laptop,
literally writes to Him on her
00:24:57.65\00:25:01.00
laptop, some people can
journal in a journal book if you
00:25:01.04\00:25:04.36
like to write.
00:25:04.40\00:25:05.40
Some people don't like to
do any of that so they are just
00:25:05.44\00:25:07.62
on their knees and pray,
some people don't like that so
00:25:07.66\00:25:10.03
just walk around the house
and rant and rave because it
00:25:10.07\00:25:12.41
doesn't matter to God
how we do it, it just is the
00:25:12.45\00:25:14.65
connection is important, so
praise the acronym is, the first
00:25:14.68\00:25:18.76
part is the P. that you
learn to praise God, who is He?
00:25:18.79\00:25:22.14
This is a God that spoke
the world into existence and to
00:25:22.18\00:25:25.49
literally speaks
and something happens.
00:25:25.53\00:25:27.99
He says I want to speak
into your life and I am like all
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right, I'd love that.
00:25:30.36\00:25:31.74
Find out who He is, go through
the Bible and literally look
00:25:31.77\00:25:35.86
at, like C. A. what is it
that the psalmist said about who
00:25:35.90\00:25:39.33
God is? And start reading
some of that so in your heart
00:25:39.36\00:25:42.75
you get a sense that He
is bigger than I thought.
00:25:42.79\00:25:45.91
- Precisely. - which is amazing.
00:25:45.95\00:25:47.57
The R. is repentance, there is
always a ton of stuff I need to
00:25:47.60\00:25:51.79
come to God with everyday
and say you know I really didn't
00:25:51.82\00:25:55.97
want to shoot her but
she irritated me, forgive me.
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Forgive me that
I'm not more patient.
00:26:00.00\00:26:02.65
- Repenting of the activity
with the mindset of by Your
00:26:02.69\00:26:06.44
strength, I'm not
going to do this again.
00:26:06.47\00:26:08.05
Years ago we had a Bible
study and there was a young lady
00:26:08.09\00:26:12.72
that would come and she would
say I went to this party woke
00:26:12.76\00:26:17.36
up with somebody
in bed I don't know.
00:26:17.39\00:26:18.78
A week later she went to
another party and woke up in bed
00:26:18.82\00:26:21.54
with somebody she didn't know.
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As the facilitator of the
Bible study said, I don't want
00:26:22.83\00:26:25.49
to thump on her but the
other Bible study students said,
00:26:25.52\00:26:28.14
you know what,
stop going to parties.
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Stay home on a Friday night
for change, and you'll wake
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up in your own bed.
00:26:34.28\00:26:35.29
It's not to say I did bad,
I did bad but I did bad and I
00:26:35.33\00:26:41.04
want to stop that's
when recovery comes.
00:26:41.07\00:26:43.21
I want to stop Lord
help me to stop. - exactly!
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What is really incredible
too is that in this season what
00:26:45.16\00:26:48.19
we are saying, is to stop
and ask God how do I do that?
00:26:48.22\00:26:51.62
Where is the damage at?
What do You think about that?
00:26:51.66\00:26:55.17
What is so fabulous about
God is that He starts loving
00:26:55.21\00:26:58.69
on us and showing us that stuff.
00:26:58.72\00:27:00.14
So the R. is repentance
and then you go into A., I have
00:27:00.18\00:27:06.79
to see if I can spell.
00:27:06.83\00:27:08.06
P R A, - it is affirmations
of the Bible that says who we
00:27:08.09\00:27:13.55
are and how incredible that is.
00:27:13.58\00:27:15.60
I. is for intercession,
how do I pray for someone else?
00:27:15.64\00:27:20.91
- P R A I S, - is for pray
for myself, literally saying to
00:27:20.94\00:27:26.18
God I don't even know who I am.
00:27:26.22\00:27:29.20
I'm not even sure that I can
lean on my own understanding.
00:27:29.24\00:27:33.00
about who I am and where I
stand today so I'm going to ask
00:27:33.04\00:27:36.87
You to come into my life and
show me who I am in Your eyes.
00:27:36.90\00:27:40.70
Show me the next
step, those things.
00:27:40.73\00:27:42.66
It's called supplication, I
am actually going to pray for
00:27:42.69\00:27:46.19
myself and then you end with E.
00:27:46.23\00:27:48.62
I'm going to enter into the
stillness of God and let Him
00:27:48.65\00:27:51.61
speak to me, which is amazing.
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When you stop finally and you
have said everything you need
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to say and all of a sudden
are quiet, God literally shows
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up and says now let Me
show you this for today.
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He just speaks into
what you need for that day.
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That is absolutely amazing
so when you get a solid sense of
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that the likelihood
of a relapse is minimal.
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It is the daily connection
with God that is huge.
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Do it however you can do
it, we have just got this book
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because it is
one way to show you.
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So we are going to go
ahead and take a break and
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come back for the close.
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I pray that you will just
enjoy every single testimony
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this season, hang in there
with us we will be right back.
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