Welcome to
Celebrating Life In Recovery
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I'm Cheri and this is
going into our sixth season
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so today we are going
to introduce you to all the
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incredible guests we
have had this season.
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It's amazing and
come join us in the café.
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Hi I'm C. A. Murray and
as Cheri said we are in our
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six season, if
you can believe that.
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Six years, six seasons of
letting people do their thing
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and letting people talk
about their problems and the
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catharsis that comes
from when you just lay it out
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there, and the
healing that comes.
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It's amazing. - you know I
need to do something before
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we get into our season, I
need to do something I know
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you are not comfortable with,
I need to pay you a compliment.
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Oh great! Because I am so
not comfortable with that.
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But I want to give you
flowers while you can still
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smell them, because the
other day we went to visit a
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friend who you know
has a diagnosis of cancer.
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We went to cheer her up.
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I saw you work with her
and be very real with her.
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We prayed together and had a
wonderful time and when we left
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there she felt a lot better
about what she's going to face.
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She has got to face some tough
stuff, but we were there to
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hold her hand and pray with her.
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I wanted to say, because what
people see on this set is the
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real Cheri, you're like that
on the set, you're like that
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off the set and God has given
you a special gift to pull out
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the truth out of
people in a very real way.
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I want to thank you for that.
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I've been watching you
these six seasons that we have
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been able to share a
little bit, I want to say God's
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Spirit is really with you
on the set and it is a pleasure
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to work with you.
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Thank you, thank you C. A.,
and what is really amazing to
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me about that is that I
watch somebody that is growing
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in the recovery, like you
see them at first and think
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you know what, how are you
going to let God take over?
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Are you going
to let God do that?
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Then you start to watch that
and then when you say, would
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you say, tell your
journey on Celebrating Life?
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Tell us what happened, who
God is, and what your walk is
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like now and you could
see them just light up because
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everything in their life
has been so twisted and crashed.
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Now they are going to say
something to help someone else,
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that is a part
of the whole thing.
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So you watch God do that
healing here, and we only get to
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see what is on the camera.
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I almost feel sorry for
the viewers sometimes because
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as soon as the camera is
off people are praying for each
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other, people are holding
each other up, they are talking
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about one more thing and
crying that they can't get over
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this, somebody has
given them advice, try this.
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What happens behind the
scenes is pretty spectacular.
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What happens on the set
is good too. - yeah it is!
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You get to facilitate
that and I need to say this,
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there is only one Cheri Peters.
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God sort of broke the
mold and I don't know if the
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world could stand two.
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You know that's too funny.
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You're a blessing
for us, you really are.
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You're funny, I have to just
say that this season was fun
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for me because there was a
couple things that happened
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to me this season, and I
want to say preparing, I'm just
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too flaky to prepare.
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But as I am coming into
this season and I knew it was
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coming, we were doing prison
ministries, traveling a lot,
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and all of a sudden I had
this major death in my family.
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I just really, there was a
part in me that said how am
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I going to do this?
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I went to God and was trying
to process stuff knowing that
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this is coming up, it
was really a difficult time.
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All of a sudden God reminded
me, I didn't go back to any
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addictions, I
didn't lean that direction.
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I didn't want to run an
escape and that kind of stuff.
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With all the stuff going
on I wanted to celebrate that.
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You know what for the
first time in my life I can get
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hit with things that
would send people over the edge,
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I'm not even close to the edge.
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Because God said you're
foundation is solid, you're okay
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This is going to hurt,
so this season I wanted to
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really introduce that kind
of concept that as you grow,
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get things underneath you
that are so strong that when you
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get hit, because people
think if I get hit, oh stop.
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We live in a world and
it's going to come in odd ways,
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like it's going to come
with a cancer diagnosis.
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Or maybe a child acting out,
with the husband you'll find
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online porn, or with your
own junk, I mean it is going
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to come and when it comes,
do I have enough in my own self,
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with my relationship with
God, that as it comes I can just
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say, you know what? I'm
going to get through this.
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Pain is not going to
kill me. - right, right!
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A friend of mine told me years
ago when I was going through
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some stuff, and I say
all the time I've got stuff,
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and you've got stuff,
everybody's got stuff.
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Everybody gets a turn,
nobody escapes, everybody gets a
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turn, and you have found
certainly that in helping others
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you are yourself helped.
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I mean it is a
law. - Amen, and Amen!
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When the Bible talks about,
and you know I love the passage
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where it says when tribulations
come, not if they come,
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but when they come don't
back away from them too fast.
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You really will
find out who you are.
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Sometimes I find out something,
I think I never thought
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I could get through this
and then we go to dinner with
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someone who is
getting a cancer diagnosis,
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or dealing with something is
that I don't have to back away
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from that because I have
been through some of that and I
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know what to say.
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So it is like don't back
away from things too quick
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and let it play out
in your life and really
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develop who you are.
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I love that that's John
16:33, in the world ye shall,
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not might, not maybe,
you shall have tribulation.
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You know it is going to come.
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So this season I want to share
with you some of the guests
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that we have had, some of
them have been so amazing.
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My most favorite is my husband
is a fairly new Christian.
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We've been married going
on 22 years and he is amazing,
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but he just now
is giving it to God.
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He is given it got in a way
that he turned to me and said
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I just want to show
you how much I love you.
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I'm thinking all
right I'll love that.
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So the first role in I want
to say, my favorite one is my
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husband Brad,
talking about his testimony.
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And speaking of Brad, I have
to say this because we thought
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he was a figment
of your imagination.
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We had never seen Brad
before, heard about him for many
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years and he actually came.
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First of all he's a nice
guy, loves the Lord and really
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loves his wife, that is cool.
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Watching his spiritual
journey has been amazing to me.
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For the first 14, 15 years
of our marriage he could care
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less about any of that.
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I'm doing evangelism and all
this stuff and God is telling me
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someday he is going to
step up and take spiritual
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leadership not only of
the Ministry, but of his home
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and all that stuff.
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I'm like, yeah right,
because I'm not seeing it.
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When he did, oh my goodness,
it is amazing to me that he
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literally is trying to win
my heart, he's praying over the
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home, and the
family, and in the Bible.
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So I wanted to share that,
when a man steps up and takes
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that role and their
family it is absolutely amazing.
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So it's fun that it
gets to be my husband.
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The next one that I want
to talk about is a guy named
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Reggie, I met him when I
was doing prisons in Arkansas.
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He is in prison Ministry,
but he himself had been in
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prison, in gangs, and just
the way God got a hold of him,
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right in the middle of almost
getting killed, by just this
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horrible fight
when God gets his heart.
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He steps into that, steps
into his journey with God trying
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to find out what
recovery was all about.
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He now has this family that
is amazing so I wanted people
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to meet the entire family.
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I'd like to do a role ins
with all of these, but the other
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one is a guy named Aaron.
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Aaron was another strung out,
his parents were Christians and
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Aaron been
praying for him for ever.
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One day he is just out of it
totally, his heart is beating
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and he thinks
he is going to die.
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He could just text on his
phone, help me and sent it to
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his dad and it
changes everything.
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So I would like you to do
enjoy these role ins, man it has
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been an amazing
season with these guys.
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But the path that God has walked
me through, and the things
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that He has shown me, both
me and you have been nothing
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short of miracles along the way.
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So that part is really
interesting, I think what's
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really exciting for me is
starting to really understand
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what God intends for me as
the man of the family, as the
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head of the household.
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- spiritual leader, -
spiritual leader, yeah.
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Understanding what that really
is and what He is expecting.
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As I start to take it that
mantel on, assuming, that place
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what happens to everything
underneath me including what
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happens to my
relationship with you.
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I didn't know this is
going to take a toll on me but I
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really wanted that relationship,
especially with him,
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with my father you know.
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My mom was there and she
did a whole lot of things for me
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but that relationship
with him, I wanted that.
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I used to see kids, even in
school, would come up with both
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of their parents and stuff
like that and I would just sit
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there and stare, I wanted that
relationship with my father.
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One of the things that
put things at a wedge for our
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children was that because
Gwen wanted to have a career and
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the type of security she saw,
she would say I'll deal with
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the kids at a later age.
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She couldn't deal with
them when they were very young,
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she said when
they become teenagers.
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Well by that time the tree
has already grown and you just
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can't bend it at that time.
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So that became a
real push and pull for us.
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I love that, I have got to
say that there were times in my
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relationship with Brad where
he literally got on his knees
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in front of me and asked me
to forgive him for the years
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that he wasn't
there spiritually.
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As a woman I just wept like
a baby, and nothing was fake
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about that, he just
wanted to say I'm sorry,
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I just didn't get it.
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I think for a lot of the
people that you saw is that in
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their life their walking around
saying, I just didn't get it.
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Like Aaron, and with his
mom and dad just stayed faithful
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in their prayers
for him for ever.
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He says to them constantly,
I didn't get it and now he is
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doing a Ministry, he's
teaching people about health,
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he's teaching people about
how to get some solid ground
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under them as far as their
recovery, and he still is this
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little gangster that
has tattoos on his face.
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When you look at him you
think are you kidding me?
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He is so in love with
God, so in love with recovery,
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there is a solidness about
who he is and his whole family
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stands behind him
too, and it is incredible.
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Look at Reginald, Aaron
and wonder how these guys,
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they don't look like gang
members because God has done
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such a great work in their
lives and of course, Brad we
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all wondered who is the
guy that married Cheri Peters?
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We wanted to meet the
guy, off course having met him,
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solid guy with a great
testimony and it's nice to have
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the whole family working
towards one goal now isn't it?
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Amen, and I think what
God's goal is for us, in our
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recovery, regardless of
who we are, I not only want to
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bring you to a place were
you like being your own skin,
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where you are going
to be enjoying life and
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you are getting it a
being transform all that stuff.
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We come from places
where were we are lying, and
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manipulating and
running and playing everybody.
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He said I would like to teach
you not only how to connect
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with Me, but how to connect
with your family and have that
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healthy thing in your home.
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I mean it is huge because
we think it is all about us and
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recovery and God just wants
to pan back and said you have
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a generation that is going
to follow you and all that is
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important. - yeah, yeah, and
Reginald has that whole family
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all moving together,
it's cool, singing together
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working together
and praying together.
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You saw them what I
brought them to church on
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one of the Sabbath's and they
were full of joy, full of joy.
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Him and his little son
doing an evangelistic series,
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he's only 12 years old. -
in a mall, that is so cool.
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His whole idea was I think
I can do that and his sister
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being seven years old said
something to me in church on
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the Sabbath that they
talked to me in church.
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She said, I just didn't
think God could use him,
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he was eight of
years old when he started.
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I am thinking that this is
from a gang member, this is the
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children of a gang member.
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I'm like God, how cool are
You, I just want to kiss Him
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on the face just and say.
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I think we have no idea
that God is capable of coming
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into the worst situation
and just bringing life and joy
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and hope, which is amazing.
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It is amazing and
exciting, it really is.
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And with this series,
what was really interesting,
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I learned about this season
is that there was very little
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teaching, because
teaching was not a testimony.
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You know that I introduce
people right away and got them
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up talking about their
stories right away, and I didn't
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even want to take time
away from what you visually saw.
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Because what you
visually saw was the testimony,
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they could not say anything,
but you saw this health in
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this life and joy,
absolutely amazing.
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The next role in I want to
talk about is that I got sent
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this book from Pacific press.
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This book was about this
guy that works for the police
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department and he was the
chaplain, but as I started to
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research him, they
called him the buzzard.
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I thought buzzard,
what is that about?
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They said that if there
was someone dead he was around
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because he was gifted at
being able to step into the pain
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of someone, family members
that lost someone with either
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murder, suicide, or whatever
and he was gifted at that.
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So when he come in to talk
about not only what he did as
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far as for a living, but
what his healing was that left
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him with that gift,
because what an odd gift.
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- yeah, yeah it's incredible.
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Several years ago Martin Weber
and I did a panel together.
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I made my presentation
and then I just sat back and
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listened to what he had
to say, very, very powerful
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and God has given
him a unique gift.
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And that was amazing, his
gift came from his wounds.
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That is where a lot of us don't
know in our recovery and this
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season especially
I want to show that.
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Most of our wounds, most
of the darkest places in our
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lives God brings us to a
place of healing, and you think
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He is going to take it from you.
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There is a song that says,
heal the wounds but leave the
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scar, and the song refers
that you think he's going to
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take it but I'd like to
leave that, because that is what
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we are going to work with.
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You can actually speak life
into other people because of
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that scar, that wound and
that is what Martin Weber as
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a child was so afraid all time.
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Now he is walking into
these incredible murder scenes
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and he is not afraid and
bringing that kind of hope
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for someone else
in their own recovery.
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That term of you using
your gifts from your wounds is a
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fantastic concept and we
are going to see that throughout
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this year that God gives
you victory over it, but leaves
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just enough there to serve
as a platform for your Ministry.
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We see that here
and it is a great thing.
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The other group that we
are going to talk about is my
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favorite, I have had them
on before, the Miracle Meadow
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kids, these are kids that
are in an alternative school.
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Some corner pointed, some
with horrendous issues and they
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are trying to look at,
what do I think about recovery.
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Coming from these horrible
backgrounds and a lot of times,
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you know family dysfunctions
and all that, they jump into
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drugs at school, they are in
gangs and all that and now they
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are trying to look at, is
it possible that God is bigger
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than this and I can
actually have a life?
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And I love that, so just
reintroducing some of the kids
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from there, and
it's not the same kids.
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Because hopefully the kids
from last time have graduated.
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One in particular which
was funny on this season,
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I was talking to her and I
didn't want to say it's been
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three years isn't it
time that you get it?
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And finally she looked
at me when I said something,
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and she looked at me and
said Cheri I'm staff now.
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Oh good because I was
thinking oh my goodness.
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But what I really think
about that as how God uses that
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wound to do the Ministry
and now she is working with the
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very kids that she
was, amazing stuff.
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The last one is Tom and
Vicki and you know them.
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- oh yeah, yeah!
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They work here at 3 ABN
and have gone through so
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much stuff as far as
divorce and divorce recovery.
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So enjoy this role in
because each of the people here
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are using what they have
been through in order to help
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the next person, so it is
not only the recovery anymore,
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it is how I'm going to use
that to step out in the world
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and speak life into
someone else's life?
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So here I am, the buzzard,
venturing forth into these
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deaths situations and I didn't
go timidly, I went boldly.
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This spirit of God came
upon me and I realized that
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Christ has conquered death.
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It's a terrible thing it's
an enemy, but it is a conquered
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enemy, so we can
storm the gates of hell.
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We can go into these situations
where people are suffering
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the loss of their loved ones
and we could bring them hope,
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even though they are in the
middle of shock and this is the
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worst night of their life.
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I'm going to be there for
them and I'm going to be there
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to represent God to them, and
I will help them through that
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night so that when day
dawns and their friends wake up,
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their pastor or priest wake
up and the counselors wake up
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they will be ready
to connect with them.
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But tonight I'm here for them.
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When you meet a kid, for
example when Caleb was fresh at
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Miracle Meadows. We would back
up constantly because he had a
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way of life, I had a different
idea as to where he should
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be heading, and he was like,
why are so interested in me?
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He would use the meanest
words, call me all the words
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and tried push you
right out his life.
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Sometimes he would get in
my face and we would have to
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do pastor exchange sometimes,
but the thing is working through
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the kid and watching the
kid until you're finished.
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Two or three weeks after
he understood what you were
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saying, or are would get
the picture and then we'd see
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the kid marching at the
graduation, they kid whose
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parents had no hope for them.
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Kid who was hooked on drugs,
in an out of delinquent halls
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and finally move forward, that
in itself is a motivating fact
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to be working
with kids like those.
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It's amazing, the day I
was trying to, the first time I
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wanted to end my life, right
when I was planning to do this
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someone knocked on the door and
my dad shows up in the middle
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of the day. A we started
talking and I was telling
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everything that was going
on, and I think even made the
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words I don't see any hope
and he looked at me and said
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you are trying to
hurt yourself are you?
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I didn't want to say yes.
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He very clearly
said you know you
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have two kids and
they need their dad so bad.
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This is just
stuff you're losing,
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you can start
all over and again.
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I had also grown up
in a kind of Christian
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tradition where basic,
this is what devastated me too.
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If you get divorced you
can no longer serve God.
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It's out the window.
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- a Lot people believe that.
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A lot of people believe
it and I was believing it too
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until I had a very wise
Christian woman pull me aside,
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an incredible woman that
pulled me aside, she was an
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older lady and said to me,
you know, He is going to take
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this and uses for His glory.
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You know Cheri, Martin
Weber looked so professional,
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he looks like he ought to
be in a college, a guy named
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the buzzard it
shows what God can do.
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I think it is amazing and
even with the kids from Miracle
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Meadows, as they stand
up and talk about what their
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journey is like, where
they have come from, and some of
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them are seriously gang
issues and they are now looking
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at how not to
manipulate and how not to lie in
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any of that stuff.
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I love the fact that when
they come and do these programs,
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it may be that
somebody said you know they're
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not even there yet.
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Our process of recovery is
not about being there, I think
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if the Bible is true, and
I'm beginning to think it is.
00:21:03.67\00:21:06.59
If the Bible is true it's
of the best of the best of us
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are like filthy
rags compared to God.
00:21:09.54\00:21:11.63
Compared what we will be at
the end of all this, so it is
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like that process of recovery,
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I think is as critical.
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Every step, every time I
decide, like I said I'm dealing
00:21:19.94\00:21:25.37
with all these crises in
my life and I'm not using.
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Every time I decide that
that is part of my recovery.
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Being able to
see that is amazing.
00:21:30.99\00:21:33.19
To recover and recovering
like Tom and Vicky, they look so
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whole, so healthy and are such
good people now you wouldn't
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know there was this kind
of trauma in their lives.
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When you go through a divorce
and never come out clean,
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you just don't.
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The recovery is a testament of
holding on to the arm of faith.
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When Tom was talking up here,
I just wanted the kill her,
00:21:51.81\00:21:56.07
and I'm thinking Tom I've
known you for a long time, but
00:21:56.11\00:21:59.64
he said that rage that happens
when you've been betrayed at
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that level, and how do you
then get to a point, like he
00:22:03.52\00:22:06.97
did in this interview,
get to a point where you are
00:22:07.00\00:22:10.38
speaking words of comfort to the
very person that betrayed you.
00:22:10.42\00:22:14.60
I love the fact that he
said to her at one point, if
00:22:14.64\00:22:18.05
anybody tells you that you
can't do something because of
00:22:18.09\00:22:21.44
this divorce, have him call me
and I will give you a reference.
00:22:21.47\00:22:24.23
you a reference.
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It was he got to that kind
of healing and that is why I
00:22:25.43\00:22:28.17
think God is amazing, it is
not in our own self that we can
00:22:28.20\00:22:30.99
give that healing, it is that
God says that I will take you
00:22:31.03\00:22:33.93
to a place where you will
forgive the very abusers in your
00:22:33.97\00:22:36.84
life and speak life
into them a lot of times.
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Not every time,
but a lot of times.
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And be whole in doing
so, that is why we talk about
00:22:41.54\00:22:45.14
Celebrating Life In Recovery,
that you are recovered and
00:22:45.18\00:22:49.36
recovering at the same time.
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Every victory, every time
you can call the name of your ex
00:22:51.57\00:22:55.01
or give it to the Lord, where
they have a problem and you
00:22:55.05\00:22:58.99
can go to them and help them,
that's recovery, that is been
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recovered and recovering.
00:23:02.96\00:23:04.62
Not holding onto the anger
and the bitterness and even
00:23:04.65\00:23:08.48
research is saying that holding
onto that we get ourselves
00:23:08.51\00:23:11.95
physically sick, mentally
sick and emotionally sick and
00:23:11.99\00:23:15.40
eventually we will relapse.
00:23:15.43\00:23:16.97
So God just says,
get into the word.
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I want to say, this season we
are promoting 2 different things
00:23:18.97\00:23:22.81
We always have a book that
we promote and one of them is
00:23:22.84\00:23:25.44
Shelley's new book
'Pressing into His Presence',
00:23:25.48\00:23:27.90
because we can't do any
of this kind of journey,
00:23:27.94\00:23:30.33
this recovery journey,
00:23:30.37\00:23:31.89
without really pressing
into the presence of God.
00:23:31.93\00:23:34.32
Learning how to say to God
every day and I'm going to start
00:23:34.35\00:23:38.19
with knowing that You are going
to walk me through this day.
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You are going to teach me
more this day, so that book was
00:23:41.71\00:23:45.70
I looked at it, how can you
teach somebody to even pray,
00:23:45.74\00:23:49.70
I was glad that Shelley
is bringing that book out
00:23:49.73\00:23:52.35
because that is one of them.
00:23:52.39\00:23:53.48
Another one and I have two
Bibles here, because we always
00:23:53.51\00:23:58.32
look for other books, my husband
has a Bible that's says The Book
00:23:58.36\00:24:03.94
He is just really straight-
forward, where is my book?
00:24:03.97\00:24:08.68
So I have a recovery Bible
that I like and in the recovery
00:24:08.72\00:24:13.39
Bible there are a Lot
of them on the market now.
00:24:13.43\00:24:15.25
Goes through even people's
testimonies, both through their
00:24:15.28\00:24:18.54
journey, and go to the
12 steps and all that stuff.
00:24:18.58\00:24:22.32
So get a Bible that you can
hold onto because people can
00:24:22.36\00:24:27.91
tell you what God says
and people can tell you what
00:24:27.95\00:24:30.07
this is all about
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I think we can actually
benefit every as we look at the
00:24:31.19\00:24:35.37
fact that God sings
over us as we sleep.
00:24:35.41\00:24:37.99
Like it says in Zephaniah,
or He has a plan for our life as
00:24:38.03\00:24:41.53
it says in Jeremiah, it
says in John that I don't count
00:24:41.56\00:24:45.87
your sins against you and
I'm thinking Wahoo, I need that.
00:24:45.91\00:24:49.73
There is another Bible
that 3ABN offers that's amazing
00:24:49.77\00:24:53.27
to study Bible for people
that literally have gone through
00:24:53.31\00:24:56.32
some of the recovery stuff
and you have a sense of where
00:24:56.36\00:24:59.03
God is emotionally in your
life and you want to go deeper.
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Deeper is amazing because you
start to realize that God has
00:25:02.87\00:25:06.48
been through history in
the lives of people to get them
00:25:06.51\00:25:10.09
to stand up and just heal.
00:25:10.12\00:25:11.71
He does that in Nations,
He does that in families and
00:25:11.75\00:25:15.29
He does that in individuals.
00:25:15.32\00:25:16.29
So the 'Bible' is one that we
are promoting this season, and
00:25:16.30\00:25:20.00
the other one is
'Pressing Into His Presence'.
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About learning to
pray, what does that mean?
00:25:21.95\00:25:23.80
Learning to listen
to the voice of God.
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It is absolutely
amazing when you start to learn
00:25:25.65\00:25:28.82
that, people can pull on you in
different kinds of directions.
00:25:28.85\00:25:32.17
You can have all kinds of
things hit you, but if I'm solid
00:25:32.21\00:25:35.83
in my heart towards God's heart
I know He heart is towards me
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I am going to be blessed.
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So I want you to stay with
us, we are going to come back
00:25:41.30\00:25:44.08
and I will show you more
of the role ins, amazing who
00:25:44.12\00:25:46.86
has been on this
season, but remember get that
00:25:46.90\00:25:50.02
foundation for yourself.
00:25:50.05\00:25:51.46
We will be right
back so stay with us.
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