Welcome to
Celebrating Life in Recovery!
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Today we're going to look
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at one of the most important
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things that you need to
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know in order to recover.
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Come on in and join us!
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Welcome back and I told
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you that this is the most
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important thing in recovery
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and I wasn't kidding.
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What is really funny is to
me is when God started to unfold
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this to me, I said, oh stop!
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This cannot be it.
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I remember thinking that I
have looked at, coming off of
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heroin, I have looked at
dysfunctional home stuff,
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I looked at early
molest, I have looked at anger.
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In fact the anger issue
just cracks me up is that
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somebody earlier on said
Cheri have you ever been angry
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about anything in your past?
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You know I have been homeless
for 10 years and strung out.
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My parents were addict's.
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My mom tried to self abort
with me, and all that stuff.
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And I said, no I don't think so.
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They are just like, oh
man, she's such in denial.
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So that I realized that
even in dealing with anger,
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I was angry for a
year and all this stuff.
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I thought I had done some
really good work, and finally
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God asked me to do the dishes.
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I thought, are you kidding me?
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Are you kidding me?
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Because you know in my
home, doing the dishes was like
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punishment, doing the laundry.
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If everybody was messed up
in the house, if everybody is
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on drugs and strung out,
so who ever was going to get
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punished had to do the dishes.
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Or they had to the laundry.
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Or they had to go into the
bathroom, so when God told me
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to do the dishes, I pouted.
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I was like, what did I do?
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He is like, you are
asking for recovery.
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So I am asking for recovery,
I am not asking for the
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dishes to be done.
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So God started to slowly
talk to me about simple things.
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I thought can I just get
someone in to do the dishes?
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He was like, no, I
want you to do them.
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What was really interesting
is that He started to work
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on me about simple stuff.
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Preparing meals,
doing the dishes, vacuuming,
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getting the laundry done.
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One time, oh man I just
hate to admit this stuff.
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One time I had been married
like 10 years, my husband
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look at me one time and
he teared up and said, Cheri
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are you ever
going to iron my shirts?
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I said I married you
because you had an iron.
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I was hoping you
would iron my shirt.
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So which just like God coming in
and saying these simple things.
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So that is where my
next guest comes in.
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Is I was traveling
and doing a church gig.
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Melissa I got to
stay at your house, right?
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Yep! - First of all I
want to say thanks for being
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on the program.
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Thank you.
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I got to stay at your
house, and I made a joke about
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what God was teaching me.
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About doing the dishes
and I want you to tell people
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what you said to me.
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Because like it killed
me, just the things that God
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was teaching you.
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Yeah you know it was just
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that for so long my
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house had been disorganized.
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I just did not have any real
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skills as far as homemaking.
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I think it started out as
a kid, my mom had just not
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really been able to
teach us about organization.
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As you are talking to me
about your mom, about how
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crazy your home life was,
your mom was in the background.
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It is so funny, because
she's in the background going,
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it is so true and
that cracked me up too.
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You were so sweetly
saying that, but she was saying
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that Melissa is
being nice, because it was
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horribly disorganized.
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Yeah, it was pretty bad.
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My mom just suffered from
depression and so she did not
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really realize the house
is disorganized, it is dirty,
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we couldn't have people over.
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I can remember as a kid,
if we ever wanted to have a
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birthday party we would
have to have at my grandparents
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house, or somewhere else.
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We did not have
people over to our house.
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It was that bad?
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So you really
didn't learn anything?
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No, no!
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So I want to get away from
that for a minute, the house
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cleaning thing because
sometimes I think we get stuck
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on that thinking it is
all about house cleaning.
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But how did that, because
you ended up getting rebellious
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and getting into a lot of stuff.
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So let's talk about that
and then I want to bring it back
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to the dishes because
what cracked me up about God is
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that when He
said, it all relates.
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If somebody is listening
right now, and they are strung
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out or dealing with sexual
addictions, or drug addictions
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and are just rebellious and
angry, they are not going to
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buy the fact that it relates
to everything, the home life
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and what it was like.
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So go ahead and tell
about how it looked in your,
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even early teens.
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Well I can remember
feeling smothered in my house.
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For one thing we had a
bunch of stuff, clutter,
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but also my mom didn't
want us to go anywhere or do
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anything and so I
felt smothered as a child.
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So when I got to be a
teenager and I realize that
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I don't have to listen to her.
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I left, I became a habitual
run away from the time I was
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about 15 until my 16th
year, probably about a year.
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And I hate to, I feel so
heartless, what I laugh about
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I think that you are
just the nicest person.
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Every time I have
gotten to hang out with you,
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you are the nicest person.
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Your heart is huge and
sweet and all that stuff.
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I can't even
imagine you being rebellious
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and running away.
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I know that you know
when you talk, I can see
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the tears in your eyes.
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I can see that this was
not an easy time, but you could
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not stand it and I can
see that when I look at you.
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I think no way, there is no way.
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You were out of control?
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And no one could
tell you what to do?
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No nope, I pretty much
did what I will wanted.
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My boyfriend at the time
was living in a crack house so
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I moved in with him
and we stayed there.
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It was just a very
dysfunctional life I guess.
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Not a life for a 15-year-old.
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Then when I finally, I was
16, I have been engaged once.
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Then have been engaged again to
someone else and I got pregnant.
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That is when God
really changed my life.
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In what way, because you
know how do you get, and a lot
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of people don't realize,
unless you have been there.
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When you have so much damage,
and you have so many lies
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that you have told yourself,
and that you have learned
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from growing up with all
this dysfunction, how does God
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get through? How did
He get through to you?
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Well He just really at
the time, before I started
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rebelling, I had been baptized.
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In grade school I had
led a Daniel 7 Bible study
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with other kids in my class.
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You taught them?
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Yep, we just all got
together and said this would be
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something interesting to study.
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So I had a heart for
God, but I just kept falling.
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I just kept messing up
and I thought at the time,
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that I needed to be good
in order to get to heaven.
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That is what I had been taught.
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So I realized I can't be
good enough and I might as well
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stop trying, so that
is when I really rebelled.
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I said, I'm going to
live my life like I want to.
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It feels good at the time.
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Take God off the table,
family of the table, I am not
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going to listen to anything
and I am not going to feel
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guilty anymore.
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Right, and so when they
came back to God, He was just
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leading me step by step.
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Just baby steps you know.
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I wanted my daughter to be
raised in the church and to
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know God, so that is
what got me back into church.
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You are about Cassidy,
you're oldest daughter?
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Yes! My oldest daughter.
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She is amazing.
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We are going to meet
her on the next half.
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So I started going back
to church and God use that to
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bring into my life
people who taught me about
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righteousness by
faith, and how...
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what did they
teach you about that?
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Because we are
studying that this whole season.
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Yeah, I know and when I
was talking to my husband
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about it, I said
that was such a God thing.
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Because it is something
that is so near and dear to our
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hearts that we can
not be saved by doing,
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we are saved by Christ.
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Say that in a way that
somebody that has never been in
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a church before can hear you.
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What does that mean?
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Because that is why am
have the hardest part is how
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do you explain to somebody
what righteousness by faith
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means, because it
sounds so churchy.
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What really got to me is
that Christ gave each one of us
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a gift of eternal life.
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Everybody, people who are
strung out on crack or whatever,
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they have eternal life.
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It's like being a
millionaire and having a million
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dollars in the bank
account and never using it.
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Not even knowing it is there?
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Well yeah!
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I love that especially
since I'm a heroine addict.
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Not quite a crack addict,
but when God said you have
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eternal life and all that stuff.
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The first part of
eternal life thing scared me.
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For one, I know, is that
we have to receive it before
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we can actually, if
it is in the bank I have
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to know it is there?
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But I thought at first, you
know eternal life, dealing with
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all this stuff
almost sounded like a curse.
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So I had to be more
than just the eternal life
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that got you?
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Well for sure it
was that God loved me.
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Let me clarify the cursing,
because they do not think
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of that now as a curse.
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But then I was
thinking about all my junk and
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insecurities, my addictions,
behavior and so what else
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from that teaching got you?
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Well just that God loved
me no matter what, no matter
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what I have done
or was messed up with.
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That He still loved me.
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I was important to Him,
so important that He gave
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everything for me.
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I want to ask if
you got this sense,
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the sense with God that
He felt a sadness of the
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hurt that happened in my life.
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When I was out there
doing all this kind of stuff,
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I didn't feel like He
came in and judge that.
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I think He came in just
like a wounded child and said,
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I am so sorry
you had to see that.
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Or that you had to know
that, or you had to understand
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that about your own character.
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I felt like it was different
then what I anticipated,
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God had to take it all.
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Then He said, let Me
pour into you what you need in
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order to heal.
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So He didn't even say
that I want you to now behave,
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but let Me pour
into you what you need.
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Man, so baby steps you took?
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I took baby steps and God
was leading me, He was able to
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get us into a
small group Bible study.
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It was just amazing to
be able to learn with other
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Christians and to learn
what the Bible really says
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about our new
life as a Christian.
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What is really funny is
that He took me into a Bible
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study and I just felt
like a fish out of water.
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I am looking at all
these normal people and trying,
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in my mind, they are doing a
Bible study and I'm thinking,
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are you sitting normal?
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Are you being normal, and I
didn't even, it was like odd
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for me to even learn how to sit.
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Did you get that at all?
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Uh, because I was raised
in the church I don't think it
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was that big of
a stretch for me.
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Through that small group
Bible study, we had people
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coming in who were
drunk, into our Bible study.
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I could tell was a
little uncomfortable for them.
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It was a little, not
what they were used to.
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But the fact that God
works with all of us is amazing.
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Oh yeah!
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And that righteousness
by faith, as God works with
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all of us, to pour into
us what we need in order
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to take the next step.
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Whether it is somebody
coming back into the church,
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or whether it is somebody
who's never been in church
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and coming in
for the first time.
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He knows just what we need.
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Exactly, so you ended up
coming into church, Cassidy
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is in Sabbath school now
doing the things, and you
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probably cried just watching
her do the church thing.
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Yeah, yeah it was really
just what I wanted for her.
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The whole reason I
went back to church was so
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she could know God.
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Because even when I
was messed up, even when
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I was in a crack house I still
felt the presence of God so
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strong sometimes, it is
amazing He didn't leave me.
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Because He
doesn't ever leave you.
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No, and at the time I
even thought, wow, here I am
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talking to somebody
about God in this kind of a
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situation, it
was just incredible.
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It's amazing because for
a lot of people they think,
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surely God leaves us
because were so rebellious.
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I think that God's heart
breaks when He said I will
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never leave you or forsake you.
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I can't even imagine
that there are things that we
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probably could do to
sever that relationship,
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and the Bible talks about that.
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But in my own walk in my
own journey, I can't imagine
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what it is because God
has been faithful to me, even
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though I have been such a
rebellious, resistant hurt
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thing, God says, we
will get through this.
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We'll get
through this next thing.
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So you fell in love?
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Um hum, I did.
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Met who?
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My husband Joe and we
actually met through work.
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He wasn't a Christian
at the time and I was just
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coming back to Christ.
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It was a tough
situation at that time,
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but we were able, he
came to our small group Bible
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study and he was
able except Christ.
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That cracks me up and we
are going to have him on the
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second half, because I
thought he was always Christian?
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He is such a man of God.
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He is and he has been a blessing
to me and to our family.
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I know that for sure.
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That's too fun.
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I want to get back
because we always have this time
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limit on a program.
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So I end up at your house,
by this time you are married,
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you are fully back to
God, you have a couple kids,
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a couple more kids and you
have this incredible family.
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The home feels
amazing to me when I walk in.
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It is just such a blessing,
and yet you tell me it has not
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always been that way.
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No, no!
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And only because, as I said
that God is really working on
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me doing the dishes.
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So tell me, let's just talk
about what we ended up going
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into at that point.
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Well what had happened to
me is that I realized that I
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did not have any skills
as far is being a homemaker.
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In your heart wanted to do that?
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Yes, my heart wanted my
kids and my husband to have a
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place like it was
a sanctuary for them.
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I felt like, ahhh this
is just so not a sanctuary.
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So when I got pregnant with my
first son, we had a hard time.
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I got morning
sickness very badly,
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my husband calls
it the dark days.
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It was like the
entire house just went under.
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So after that
experience, after I had had him,
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I realized I needed help.
00:16:14.46\00:16:16.72
I have been told by
several people about Fly Lady.
00:16:16.75\00:16:22.59
So I said know I
do not need that.
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At first I was resistant
to it and then I finally
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just got to the
point where I needed it.
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Okay so now come because
I know what you are talking
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about, because you shared
with me, and I learned about
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Fly Lady and what
that is all about.
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Tell us a little bit
about that Ministry and what is
00:16:39.84\00:16:42.57
the acronym "fly" means?
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Finally Loving
Yourself, is what fly means.
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At first when I had
heard about Fly Lady,
00:16:47.82\00:16:50.81
I thought she was
like a fly, a house fly.
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And I felt like, what is
she going to bug me all day
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to do my housework?
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What is that all about?
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I'm so not going to
call her, I don't need that.
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Yeah, but what I found
out that it is Finally Loving
00:17:02.47\00:17:05.45
Yourself, I was just like, yeah!
00:17:05.49\00:17:07.52
That is really true, we
are, we can finally take the
00:17:07.55\00:17:11.78
time to do a we
need in an organized way.
00:17:11.82\00:17:14.52
So you start talking to
me about how this Ministry
00:17:14.56\00:17:20.28
taught you to
how clean your house.
00:17:20.31\00:17:22.88
I'm like, I am beyond help.
00:17:22.92\00:17:26.05
You don't even know.
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What is funny is that you
did that and you just shook your
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head, and I'm thinking
can I do strangle you because
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you didn't even know.
00:17:33.70\00:17:34.85
I look at it as punishment,
it is punishment to me.
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When somebody says I go
into my kitchen and the kitchen
00:17:38.66\00:17:42.16
looks horrible, I want to
walk out and say I don't want
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even to go in there.
00:17:45.69\00:17:46.66
When I go into my office,
everything is piled up and
00:17:46.68\00:17:48.65
I don't want to go in there.
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So it is like don't even
tell me, and you are saying,
00:17:49.67\00:17:53.55
just try it, just try it.
00:17:53.58\00:17:55.76
I think you even slipped
me a little piece of paper
00:17:55.79\00:18:00.16
with the website, here's
the website, so just try it.
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Tell me what it did for
you, you ended up getting
00:18:04.11\00:18:08.30
involved with the
Ministry that their primary
00:18:08.33\00:18:12.38
belief is, that when
you finally learned to love
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yourself and create for
yourself a home that you
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will heal in all kinds of ways.
00:18:20.11\00:18:21.75
So how did that
unfold in your life?
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When did you actually
buy it, that this may be
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part of the issue?
00:18:27.38\00:18:28.35
As soon is I got on the website
and actually looked at it.
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I was hooked because she just,
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Marla the Fly Lady,
she really brings it to a
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level you can understand.
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It is just like a
good friend talking to you.
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What does she say?
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While she talks
about baby steps.
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15 minutes a day and you
do this one thing for a month
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until you have a habit.
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Why don't you go into
your living room for 15 minutes
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and just throw
out old magazines.
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Yep, Yep!
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Don't even think
it, just set a timer.
00:19:01.04\00:19:03.51
Right!
00:19:03.55\00:19:04.52
Do not work
beyond that 15 minutes.
00:19:04.53\00:19:06.15
Yep!
00:19:06.19\00:19:07.17
So really is baby steps.
00:19:07.20\00:19:08.73
Yeah!
00:19:08.77\00:19:09.74
What is interesting about
this Ministry is that one of
00:19:09.75\00:19:12.94
the things, when you tell
me about it, and I looked on
00:19:12.98\00:19:17.26
site, is that Marla had
some issues, had some house
00:19:17.30\00:19:20.65
being a mess and disorganized,
and all that stuff.
00:19:20.68\00:19:23.96
She had some issues and decided
to do some healing her-self
00:19:23.99\00:19:27.64
and then somebody
said would you help me?
00:19:27.67\00:19:30.27
She said okay and she got
a few more people that wanted
00:19:30.31\00:19:33.83
help and pretty soon she
started a little website and now
00:19:33.86\00:19:37.51
she helps 200,000 people
every day to do the right thing,
00:19:37.54\00:19:43.46
today throw a magazine away.
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Yep!
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Clean out your sink, and
200,000 people worldwide.
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I think it is amazing.
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So let me get back to you.
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So you start doing simple
things, and the first thing
00:19:53.34\00:19:55.94
she says it is
clean out your sink.
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Right, you are
supposed to shine your sink.
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You are supposed to take
all the dirty dishes out that
00:20:00.19\00:20:02.59
are probably
sitting in your sink.
00:20:02.63\00:20:03.79
You are supposed
take them out and
00:20:03.83\00:20:04.96
set them on the counter.
00:20:05.00\00:20:06.01
You're supposed to fill
up your sick with hot water
00:20:06.04\00:20:08.01
and some bleach and
let that sit for a while.
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Then clean your
sink and shine it up.
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That is it?
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That's it.
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Don't stress about, that's it.
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So I tried it, my goodness.
00:20:18.22\00:20:20.99
You tried it
before you left my house.
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Oh I shined your
sink, that's right.
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It was like I walked in and
I said, now look at that sink.
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Amazing!
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But what is really interesting,
it is almost like, and
00:20:30.69\00:20:34.05
this is what is weird for us
addicts, or as damaged folks.
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I don't care for damaged is
depression, anger, addiction,
00:20:37.38\00:20:40.64
sexual addiction, stealing,
gambling, whatever it is.
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Workaholism,
workaholic shine half your sink.
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but anyhow when you
start doing the simple things,
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all of a sudden there's junk
that comes up to the surface
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you realize this stems
from all the clutter in my life.
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Never feeling
like I had a place.
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There were some real
issues come up, some root issues
00:21:01.85\00:21:06.11
come up, so as you are
shining your sink did any of
00:21:06.15\00:21:10.38
those root
issues come up for you?
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Yeah because I hate doing
my dishes, that is one of the
00:21:12.40\00:21:16.07
things I just hated doing.
00:21:16.11\00:21:18.37
You know, and laundry that
was another big thing for me,
00:21:18.40\00:21:21.72
is I just hate those two things.
00:21:21.76\00:21:23.65
So I really had to put
myself, my wants aside and say
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I'm going to do this.
00:21:28.72\00:21:30.45
I'm going to do it for,
because I know it is good
00:21:30.49\00:21:34.01
for me, but also
because I know it will be a
00:21:34.05\00:21:36.38
blessing to my family.
00:21:36.41\00:21:37.58
And one of the things
that Fly Lady says is housework
00:21:37.61\00:21:39.83
done incorrectly,
still blesses your family.
00:21:39.86\00:21:42.86
And that is what I wanted.
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Say that again, that's cool!
00:21:44.50\00:21:46.01
Housework done incorrectly,
still blesses your family.
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What I am finding when I
work with a lot of people coming
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out of jail's, coming out
of rehab centers, out of all
00:21:53.01\00:21:56.54
that stuff, is that we do
not know how to set up a home.
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Nobody set up a home for
us and that could curse us our
00:22:01.02\00:22:05.85
whole life or we can baby
step and just change that.
00:22:05.89\00:22:10.68
And the baby step for this
particular Ministry was shine
00:22:10.71\00:22:15.47
your sink, clean out your sink.
00:22:15.50\00:22:17.36
But not just clean it
out, not just clean it out,
00:22:17.40\00:22:21.64
what is hysterical and it sounds
so simple, but not cleaning
00:22:21.68\00:22:24.99
it out, shine it
up, get a toothbrush if
00:22:25.03\00:22:28.86
you have to and get every
single thing shined up about it.
00:22:28.89\00:22:32.05
I want this to look
like it could go into a
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Better Homes Magazine photo.
00:22:35.26\00:22:37.47
So I got into it, which
is ridiculous, ridiculous.
00:22:37.51\00:22:41.19
But I got into it and what
was really interesting, is the
00:22:41.22\00:22:44.66
Holy Spirit started telling
me do little tiny things.
00:22:44.69\00:22:47.98
One of the little tiny
things was the fact that you
00:22:48.01\00:22:51.27
were punished with
housework and therefore
00:22:51.30\00:22:54.65
you do not want to do it.
00:22:54.69\00:22:55.91
I thought well okay.
00:22:55.94\00:22:58.88
So you are going to
heal every time you do it.
00:22:58.91\00:23:01.96
I am thinking it oh
man, I don't want to do it.
00:23:01.99\00:23:05.00
I know, and I heard
God even say, I know.
00:23:05.04\00:23:08.26
So tell me, because you
didn't stop at the sink.
00:23:08.29\00:23:11.56
No, and usually I think
that is her trick because you
00:23:11.59\00:23:15.70
just don't stop at the sink.
00:23:15.74\00:23:16.76
You see the sink looking
good it spreads to the counters,
00:23:16.79\00:23:20.22
and you just start
to get rid of junk.
00:23:20.26\00:23:22.58
You start to get
rid of the clutter.
00:23:22.62\00:23:24.88
That really is so freeing,
that you are able to get rid
00:23:24.91\00:23:33.69
of all that junk.
00:23:33.73\00:23:34.70
It feels like almost a
spiritual or emotional junk too.
00:23:34.71\00:23:38.26
I'm cleaning all that out.
00:23:38.30\00:23:40.15
I don't need this, that I
can trust in God to take care
00:23:40.19\00:23:43.80
of me, if I ever need
then again He will provide it.
00:23:43.83\00:23:47.41
I don't need to keep it.
00:23:47.45\00:23:48.84
That's huge, you actually
then went beyond on that and
00:23:48.87\00:23:54.05
just started to organize
your day, your calendar,
00:23:54.09\00:23:57.55
talk a little bit about that.
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Do you know where your
insurance information is?
00:23:59.77\00:24:01.98
I do, we have got our, one
of the things that Fly Lady
00:24:02.01\00:24:06.18
teaches us is
about a Control Journal.
00:24:06.22\00:24:08.23
You put all this information
into one spot so you got it.
00:24:08.26\00:24:13.37
In case you need it, like
an emergency or something.
00:24:13.40\00:24:17.27
So we have all of our
emergency phone numbers in the
00:24:17.31\00:24:20.50
Control Journal, we have
our blood types, we have our
00:24:20.53\00:24:23.69
doctors names,
number, everything.
00:24:23.73\00:24:27.60
Oh you know I
haven't gotten there yet?
00:24:27.63\00:24:29.57
Oh you are going to love
the Control Journal, we do.
00:24:29.61\00:24:32.75
Then we wrote down like
routines come because another
00:24:32.78\00:24:35.74
thing that Fly Lady teaches
is that morning and evening
00:24:35.78\00:24:40.24
routines, which eventually
it gets so habitual that
00:24:40.28\00:24:43.60
you do not even have to
think about it, you just do it.
00:24:43.63\00:24:46.92
So that has been a
blessing for us too.
00:24:46.96\00:24:49.35
Okay we are going to
come back, we're going to go
00:24:49.38\00:24:51.64
on break and come back.
00:24:51.68\00:24:53.00
I want you to
meet the entire family.
00:24:53.03\00:24:55.63
And please if you think this
is just about housecleaning,
00:24:55.66\00:24:58.97
housekeeping or
cleaning the sink or whatever,
00:24:59.01\00:25:01.46
it is not at all.
00:25:01.50\00:25:04.15
I'm so surprised how damaged
we are, how much we don't do
00:25:04.19\00:25:08.56
for our families and our
selves in our home, that when we
00:25:08.60\00:25:12.26
start doing it, God through
the Holy Spirit starts changing
00:25:12.29\00:25:15.94
us in ways that we will
never go back to old addictions.
00:25:15.98\00:25:19.07
It is weird that He does
that with the kitchen sink.
00:25:19.11\00:25:22.53
It is amazing to me so I
guess spirituality is all that
00:25:22.57\00:25:25.96
including the kitchen sink.
00:25:26.00\00:25:27.57
So we will be
right back, stay with us.
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