Hi! and we are back!
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This has been a very revealing
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dare I say, show for me.
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One, because there
are so many people here,
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who I never knew
had these histories.
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I like the idea that
they felt comfortable enough,
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in the Lord, and with
you, and with the show format,
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to be so revealing
because I know there are people
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who are going to be
helped by this stuff.
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It is incredible.
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What is interesting too
is if we all come to God,
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and what this whole
program is about this season,
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is if we all come to
God tweaked in some way.
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I have met people who
says I don't even think
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I have any issues.
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That scares me.
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As soon as you talk with them
and get history, you think man,
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if you dealt with
this, you could be freed up.
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I think that is
what God must say to us.
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So this whole season is
about coming to Him with all the
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stuff and trust in the
fact that He has got your back,
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or He's got the
next move for you.
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Every single one in the program
has gotten a sense of God.
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Even if it is not, some of
the people we have set their
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testimonies, they are not
alcoholics, and like Dwight,
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peeing on window sills.
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I do not know if
you know what I mean?
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Because he was way out
there in his addiction.
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So if they are not that
far out there, they are dealing
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with physical issues like
the guy on the Cliff thing.
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Or Deliah Brown
with her car accident.
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You are still coming to
God completely broken and what
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do I do now,
what is the next step?
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You know it is interesting
because every year we get one
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or two, it really is just
one or two of people that say,
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who is say to us, why are
you talking about that stuff?
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Why are you giving
the Devil so much credit?
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Why, that stuff doesn't
touch us, it doesn't bother us?
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Why are you
bringing that stuff up?
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We're Christians!
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As if when you come to Lord
to come pristine and perfect.
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You don't come with any
history, you just sort of drop
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out of the sky.
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But all of us I said, in
my preaching, I got stuff,
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you got stuff, all
God's children got stuff.
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We need to talk about
this because there is certainly
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healing in discussing it
and then we find that there are
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tens, thousands, hundreds
of millions of people who have
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the same stuff who simply
don't know how to get out.
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This program says there is a
way out and Jesus is the way.
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I love that, I
absolutely love that.
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God said Cheri, I don't
even want you to be embarrassed
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anymore about your stuff.
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I just want you to say, you
know what, allow Me, through
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the Holy Spirit, to just
live with you, abide in you,
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be with you and allow
all the victories I have won
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personally, and Christ
has won all the victories.
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All the victories I
have won personally,
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I want to just give to you.
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You don't even
have to fight anymore.
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You do not have to
prove you are going to do it,
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I've done it so
just relax in that.
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Now that we have that
settled, and that is what this
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stuff is about, now that
we have got that settled,
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let Me show you how to laugh.
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We think it is, let
Me show you how to tithe.
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Let Me show you
how to do the Sabbath.
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Let me show you how to
do... and we have all these
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things that we think He
wants to show us behaviorally.
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I think He wants to
show us how to live, laugh,
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love people.
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It is such an incredible,
it is the coolest part of
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recovery because I
don't know, I don't how.
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We are going to
do one more roll-in,
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well actually two more.
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This next roll-in we
are going to show is three
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testimonies all really
different of people that not
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only came into healing,
really got it themselves,
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and are going out now
and teaching somebody else.
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One is Mike Stone and
Barry Steed, they have these
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incredible testimonies,
incredible histories, and now
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they are going out to
the NASCAR race stuff,
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or motor-cross
racing and talking to people
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that are out there.
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They were partying
and drinking and they say,
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that was the guy
was and I was miserable.
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Not to cut you off but
what really is cool about this
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This is a niche thing, you have
tailgaters at football games,
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you have all these people
who seemed to have a great time
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partying and under that
is all this pain, this hurt.
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Some people who saw that,
used to be that, now they are
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back they are bringing
Christ into that situation.
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Their kids are
miserable, they are strung out.
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So they are going
to go back and do that.
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The other one, a
gang member, and then a
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recreational addict
that was a physical therapist
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doing all that kind of
stuff getting more and more
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lost in his addictions
and God called him back.
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In such a loving way and
so there is their stories.
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Rhonda Burnett
who has alcoholism,
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and has just done just
amazing in her own recovery.
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Not only in her own
recovery but the fact that she
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now has God for the
first time for her, and she is
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making it real for someone else.
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So enjoy these.
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I was sitting there in
church service, and they was
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up singing and giving their
testimonies and everything.
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I thought to myself, I
thought if there is a God and
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He saved all these
people from drugs and all that,
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because I was hardheaded
and said let one of them
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guys on the stage come
down here and talk to me.
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Because I did not have no
clue of anybody in the church.
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I thought, that
way I knew God did it.
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I have to know there is a God.
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So I know more got the
thought out of my mind and the
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two guys on the
stage started talking.
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I thought that is
strange, they are in the middle
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of singing and these
two guys start talking.
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It wasn't 5 minutes
and the one guy put his
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microphone down and
walked off the platform and
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started walking down the aisle.
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I thought I don't know
where he is going but, I know
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he ain't coming
down to sit by me.
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He walked right back and
sat down right beside me.
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No way, how cool is that?
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He told me, I know you are
having a drug problem and your
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wife, you are having trouble
with your family and all that.
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At that moment,
God took it all away.
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I also robbed people
and when they saw that they
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decided this is the man
we need to hang out with
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this man to be like him.
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Which is what I wanted,
I want them to be like me.
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I liked that, I don't
like that, that happened
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but I use that today,
because I say well they wanted
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to be like me when
I was reflecting the
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character of
the Devil back then.
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But now that I have
Christ, I want them to not only
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see me but see Christ
in me, and follow me now,
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the way am now.
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I did not let my parents
run say my life, and I didn't
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let no man run my life,
and I sure am not going to let
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God run my life.
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And the spiritual mentor
down there, she just reached
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over and patted me on the
knee and said, that's right
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Honey you have done such
a good job all by yourself.
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I went, awwh, that was
it, that was a light bulb.
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That was an epiphany for me.
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I could see right there
it was like all my very best.
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I tried so hard Cheri, I
wanted to be a good person.
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I wanted to be a good
wife and to be good mother.
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I wanted to be a good
daughter, a good sister,
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a good employee, I
just wanted to be so good.
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I had no power to do that.
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Some of these
lifestyles I can't even imagine.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Because God gets us all
from such different places.
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You know your background
is way different than mine.
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I'm definitely way
different than these gangsters
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that are coming out.
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What they had seen, what
they have done, their life
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experiences are so
twisted and God says,
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you know what, I adore them.
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Yeah, yeah - I adore them.
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He is not phased
in any sense by where
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they have come from.
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I said this years ago,
maybe 4 years ago when we first
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began, and this is something
I appreciate about you.
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No matter what rolls
in here you handle it.
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It's like your jaw doesn't
drop, or you are not "like
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you did that"!
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You have to be kidding me!
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Because we all got some
"you did that" in our lives.
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And God is not
phased by this stuff.
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He has seen it all, He
has not perplexed, He is not
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shocked, He's not
horrified, because He knows it.
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He knows He has a cure for it.
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You know when you can
handle even death, when you know
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you can cure death,
death is no big deal.
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Exactly, don't
be afraid of that.
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So the gang banging, and
what is great about this is that
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there are people that
are gang bangers who are
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looking for a way out,
just don't know how to get out.
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These programs speak to the
basic needs of the Christian.
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We talked about the
forgotten step you know.
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Okay I have made restitution,
now I just want to be whole.
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What does it feel
like to be normal?
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What is it like a normal,
Yeah! I just want to be normal.
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To the normal now in Christ.
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What I think is amazing
to me, is that's what I think
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horrifies God, is that
we don't know who we are.
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We are the children of
God, created by a God that spoke
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the universe into existence.
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He said you guys
think you are gang bangers.
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You don't even know,
that is not who you are.
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I love the fact, one time
we had a stripper on named
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Harmony and I love her.
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She said she was turning
around to dance for somebody
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and God shows her who she
is and she said I could never
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go back to that lifestyle.
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Because He showed
me how incredible I am.
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I think that is
what this step is about.
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Got everything you have done,
you have said you are sorry,
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you've turn it over to somebody
and asked for forgiveness.
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Now, man, let's sit
down and let Me show you what
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life is about.
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It absolutely is my
favorite step to look at.
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Even the righteousness
of Christ, the fact that He
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knows all this stuff.
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He says I want
to pour it into you.
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I want to show you
what life is about.
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Is He going figure
out, is He going to
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help me wrap my mind around it?
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Because I know your mind is
twisted, you know what I mean?
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Let's use my mind right now.
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And I love that.
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That is incredible.
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The text that pops
into my mind is Roman 8:1.
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"There is therefore
now no condemnation. "
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So when you are look
over your shoulder, God is not
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going He's not doing that,
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He is saying come to
Me, do you want to be free?
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Come on let's be free, let's
be whole now, we can do this.
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We can do it together.
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You asked me, or you
just made a statement that
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my jaw doesn't drop.
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I just got back from a
Ministry and came over here
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from that Ministry.
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We did Kenya, we did
another state here in the
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United States,
and then came over.
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A kid was talking to me from
a rehab center and he started
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to cry, and he was
like 15 and he's adorable.
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Just a cute
little model looking kid.
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He says, you know I jumped
into the gang and part of what
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I was supposed to
do is kill somebody.
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Went to another state with
a number of 13, 14-year-olds
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and through a hatchet at a
guy I coming out of his house.
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I hit him in the head.
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Nobody knows about that one.
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I just thought,
are you kidding me?
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So for me I want to say
that is twisted, that is wrong.
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How are you ever
going to be whole from that?
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We talk about these gang
members, and these druggies,
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and people that have come
from lifestyles where they are
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beating their wives and
molesting their kids, or are
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strung out on this or that.
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God says, I can offer healing.
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I can literally untwist,
that person will come back on
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the other side of
this healthy and forgiven.
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They are definitely going
to have to make amends for
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all those things,
just trust Me on that.
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This whole season is
about trust beyond that.
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This next roll-in were
going to do just cracked me up
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because we have horrible
weather during the time we
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were shooting all these.
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Horrible cancellations,
we had to grab people off the
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street to interview sometimes,
and that kind of thing.
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Finally I had 5 cancellations,
I know that it costs
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to have the camera people
here and the studio available.
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I'm thinking, we have to get
somebody and I went go over to
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the Thompsonville
church right here.
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Ken Cox is there and I
and thinking man, and for a
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druggie in recovery,
that is like having God here.
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I'm thinking Kenneth
Cox, how fun is that?
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I'm sitting in the front
row and awe struck because
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there are some
people that I loved.
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Doug Bachelor I
think is amazing.
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Kenneth Cox are people who
have, I think you are amazing.
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First book, I don't know
if it was your first book.
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Second.
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Second book that
you wrote, See No Evil,
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it changed me.
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I Will Fear No Evil, yeah!
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Incredible stuff.
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What was the name of it
again, - I Will Fear No Evil.
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I Will Fear No Evil
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It was incredible stuff
to me, so there are people
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that you just put out
there and Ken is one of
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those guys for me.
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So I'm sitting there
thinking, you are awesome.
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I didn't hear the first
15 minutes that he spoke.
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I didn't hear a thing, I
just like, man, I love you.
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Hey, Cheri
right here, front row.
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I am just beside myself.
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Then all of a sudden I
thought wait, he is preaching
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exactly what
the season is about.
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He is talking about feed
the baby, or take care of
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the new part of you, the
part that is coming to Christ
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and
understanding about who God is.
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I'm thinking, cancellations,
he is talking about the very
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thing, so the program is
over for him and he is standing
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up on stage and I went up and of
course he doesn't know who I am.
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I said Ken, my name is
Cheri Peters and I love you.
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He said I could tell.
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But he is very polite
and I said, would you,
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I have a show
Celebrating Life In Recovery.
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He said, yeah I've seen it
which I was thrilled about it.
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I said, would you ever
be on it, because I had some
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cancellations and we
are speaking on this?
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He said yeah, I'm like no way?
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I'm thinking Ken Cox
is going be on the show?
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I turned around and all
of a sudden I realized that
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our show is if about
gang members, and addicts,
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people in recovery, and
eating disorders, and cutting.
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I'm looking at Ken Cox and
he looks like Moses when he
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came down from the mountain.
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Do you know I mean?
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He was all lit up and I turn
around and say can would you
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mind getting a Mohawk, ear
rings, tattoos so you would
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fit in and he started laughing,
but he came on the program and
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we are going to show
the roll-in but he came on
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the program and talked about
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what is
righteousness by faith mean?
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What is it mean
to be new in Christ?
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To literally make that
transition from this addictive
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self to self that
allows God to walk you
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through all that.
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So enjoy this roll-in
and then we are going to come
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back and talk a little
bit about what he presents.
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Just like with yourself, you
have sat here and said, well I
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am an addict and all this
and that, but Christ also says
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that you are a
pearl of great price.
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It said, He would
have come and died,
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if it had only been you.
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The first time I heard you
say that, I was just coming
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out of homelessness and
drug addiction and you were
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talking to a church and you
said those things, and I wept.
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Are you talking about me
and what I hear you saying,
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is absolutely.
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Because you see you are
totally unique, there is not
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another person like you anywhere
in all of God's universe.
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There's not another
person like each one of us.
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God does not clone, God creates.
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The only people that clone
are people who can't create.
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But God creates and God
makes each one of us distinctly
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different, so there
is not another person
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like us anywhere.
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So I do not care what
a person's background is.
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I do not care where they
have been and I don't care what
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they have done,
they are still unique.
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They are still special,
there is not another individual
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like them and that is why
it is so important that they
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are not lost. Right!
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Cheri I appreciate so
much what Ken Cox had to offer.
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I'm looking forward to
seeing the whole program.
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When I saw his name
there, I got a little scared.
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Because I saw Dwight and Debbie
Hall with a very revealing
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testimony and I said oh
no not Ken Cox too because I
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interviewed him once and
got his whole life story.
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He didn't reveal anything
as far as a shaky past to me.
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So I said well here we
go, but he talked about
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righteousness by
faith and that kind of thing
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does give us hope.
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It is about
surrendering to the Lord.
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It's about giving it to Him.
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Romans 12:1 says,
we present our bodies.
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You make yourself
available to the working of God
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and they God
begins His work in you.
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When I was growing up,
when I went into the Ministry
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I was living alone for a while.
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My mother is this kind of
antiseptic, worked in a hospital
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emergency room,
ex-ray room all of her life.
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So I would clean
my house whenever
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she was going to visit.
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When she got there
invariability she would take off
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her coat, sit down a
little while and then she's in
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the kitchen cleaning and
it would aggravate me because
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I had already cleaned.
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I just cleaned that!
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She would find
stuff, she would find dirt.
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I told her, your
like the Holy Spirit.
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You are always cleaning,
you never stop cleaning,
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no matter how clean I
think I have gotten this place,
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you find dirt.
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And that is what the Holy
Spirit does, always cleaning.
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What I hope what is going
to happen during this season,
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is, does the Holy Spirit,
does God just find dirt for
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finding dirt's sake?
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Just He just do
it for His own sake?
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I think all of
heaven says, absolutely not!
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I know that as you, like
for me I lie and manipulate and
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was homeless for 10 years
and good and all that stuff.
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Every time He teaches me
to be more honest, to be more
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to have more integrity, to
be able to walk in that place,
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I have better relationships.
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I trust myself more,
you know what I mean?
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I trust other people more
and all that stuff gets well,
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when God says He is
going to step into your life,
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do the baptism
of the Holy Spirit,
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through the indwelling of
the Holy Spirit, I'm going to
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mentor and model for you what
it feels like to be healthy.
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Not because I have a checklist,
because I want so badly
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for you to be all that.
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I think that we think, I
don't know what we think.
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I think the devil has lied
to us and said that God wants
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you to not have any fun at all.
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I'm like, that is so not it.
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It is so not it!
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You know this idea that
God calls you righteous,
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while He is
making you righteous,
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is very, very powerful.
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He says, Cheri, I
love you and in my sight,
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since you have given
your heart to Christ,
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I don't see that stuff anymore.
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I'm calling you righteous,
by the way I am making you,
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what I am calling you.
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At the same time.
- At the same time.
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So you get credit for being
what He already says you are.
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It is a wonderful thing
and it gives you hope and you
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do not have to
fight it by yourself.
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He's saying
you're beautiful to Me,
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and I am making you beautiful.
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I'm your plastic surgeon, I
am making you what I see you as.
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I am also your reality,
and that is a great thing.
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I love the way you have said
it, because that makes it real
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clear, but I think some people
present that righteousness
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by faith in such a
way as it is convoluted.
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We do not know
exactly what it means.
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But it just means
that God is doing it all.
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Precisely, He's doing it all.
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And it's like you can just
trust in that, walk in that.
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I'm thinking sometimes I
will start to exaggerate or to
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lie or do something like
get back in my old stuff.
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I hear the Holy Spirit
say, Hon, it never worked.
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Right, right!
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I'm thinking, it is very
gentle, like if you start to
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smoke again where you
start to drink again or you go
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online with the porn
stuff again and you hear the
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Holy Spirit
say, it never worked!
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It robbed you of everything.
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That's God's way of moving
in and saying I'm going to
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come in and teach
you what is not good.
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What's going to kill you.
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Something that pops into
my mind, my goodness it is
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Hebrews 13: 5 and 6,
where it says to be content.
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One of the things I see
with this missing steps in
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recovery is wherever you
find yourself just relax.
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Relax and be content.
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Here is where I am God, now
You have to get me out of this.
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He says also in that text,
I'm not going to leave you.
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I'm not going to
forsake you, so chill.
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Be calm, relax we are going
to go through this together.
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I am not going to
duck out halfway through,
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I will take you
all the way to the end.
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Then he says, you can
boldly say, and I like this.
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You can boldly
say God is my helper.
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So if there's anything I
can thump my chest about,
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is that God is on my
side because I'm on His side.
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I don't have to
do this by myself.
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I can recover and go through
this stuff because I have
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the big guy behind me.
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I have got
somebody help me out here.
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That is the Lord!
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Never leave me, never
forsake me and the last part of
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that text, which is really cool.
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What can Man do to me?
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You know? It says that
God is my helper and man
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cannot touch me.
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There is nothing he can do.
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He cannot help me, he
cannot hurt me because I am
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in the Lord's hands now
and my recovery is not of
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my own making, it is me and God.
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God and me, us together and
it is a beautiful combination.
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I love that because I used
to think, what if I mess up?
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What if I fall again?
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It is really
interesting because I have.
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I've been in
recovery almost 30 years now.
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When I think
about it, it was 1979.
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There are times that I
would just fall flat on my face
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and I know it.
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I wanted to do something
and to act out in this way,
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and the Holy Spirit is like
nah, man Cheri don't do that.
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You have done that before.
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I would literally
have to turn things off,
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to stop hearing them and to
be able to act out that way.
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I still fall and act
out and then I realize,
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what did I do that for?
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Not only did I act out, but
I literally had to shut down
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the voice of God in
order to do this sin.
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God says, you know what at
the end of it, I am ready for
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Him to say that is enough.
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I have had
enough and He doesn't,
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He says did it work for you?
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And I have to say again,
absolutely it did not again.
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Over the years some of
those sins have dropped off
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completely because
they never have worked.
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God was faithful every
time I crashed and burned.
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He stood me up every time again.
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I am not saying go
ahead and do it anyway.
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I'm just saying I am amazed
that God does not get tired
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of doing this stuff.
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That is really, really powerful.
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God will say, OK
Cheri, let's debrief.
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Okay, how did it feel?
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It felt good, OK
how do you feel now?
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Guilty!
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Guilty, right.
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Shame, guilty
all that stuff again.
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So now we had to start
building you back up again,
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rather than okay
you are on your own now.
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He builds you back up and
that is why these programs,
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I say again, are so meaningful
because they are part of that
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process, part of that debrief.
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There is somebody else, hey,
I did that, and it didn't work
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for them and it sure
is not working for me.
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We both need Jesus
and Jesus is the answer.
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And He is faithful.
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Precisely!
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And He is cool and He
is fun and He loves you.
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When the Bible talks about
He delights in our recovery,
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I am thinking,
what does it mean?
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Like the first time I saw
Isaiah 57:18 where He says,
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I actually
delight in your recovery.
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I know all about you.
00:24:06.03\00:24:07.98
I know all your
garbage and all your junk.
00:24:08.01\00:24:10.16
I want to stand you up.
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I'm thinking, all of my junk?
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He is like, all of it.
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When I get to the point
where all of a sudden, I think
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all these gangsters,
you heard it in their voice.
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The people in the ministry,
that have been on this season.
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You can hear it in their
voice when they get to the
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point where they finally
see the magnitude and love
00:24:26.53\00:24:29.68
of God, then you can't
help but tell somebody.
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It is not that I learned a
Scripture and I want to share
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the Scripture, I saw God
and I know that He saw me,
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and He is crazy about me.
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Yeah, you are sharing
your experience as opposed to
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something written on a page
because you have internalized
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the words on that page
are a part of your body now,
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a part of your soul.
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It is you, not
just something you read.
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That is absolutely huge.
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We are going to go ahead
and take a break and come
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back and bring this
whole thing to a close.
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But as we take a break I
want you to know that this
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was the hardest season
for me because the concept is
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that people do not
even stop on a 12 step group
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because this
step is just too big.
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Did you turn it over,
completely turn it over.
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There is no other way around it.
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You get into recovery at
this point you turn it over.
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We are going to be
right back, stay with us.
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I have already been blessed,
but stay with us will be back.
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