Welcome back, there was one
thing said on the last session
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that I just have
to ask you to clarify.
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Because you said something
about Christian counseling
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not being a good thing,
a good experience for you.
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You didn't mean all
Christian counselors per se.
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No of course not, I'm sure,
I know there are many Godly
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counselors - are really
consulate this very minute.
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He is so good, alright.
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Very, very good counseling.
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My experience at that time
was disappointing to me and
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that is why when I was
working my way back, I did not
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I did not trust because I
did not know who to go to.
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How do you find a good one?
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Right and you
hadn't had that experience.
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So I want you to continue
on and talk to us about the
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fact that you are now
bringing that whole Left Behind.
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I love when you said that,
that Left Behind thing that
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your parents are giving
you all the stuff and now you
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finally opened up,
first of all Steps to Christ.
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So what happened, what
was your next couple steps?
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Well I could read Steps to
Christ, I could read the book
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Great Controversy until
2 and 3 clock the morning.
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But you know Cheri,
when you read these books, it
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cultivates a taste for the
Bible and spiritual things,
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because there is
scripture on every page.
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So as it cultivated that
taste I was able to start
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opening the Bible and
reading more and more to where I
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was reading the Bible
until 2 and 3 in the morning.
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And using the other books
as a reference and commentary.
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I found my answers
through the Word of God.
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Share with me some of the
things that you found it really
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affected you, that
really changed your life.
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Well, there was a pivotal
text that I had, I mean, I
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have many texts
in fact on my website
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I have a
featured article entitled
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A Rainbow of Promises.
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I have just a whole
list of text, a power pack of
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promise after
promise after promise.
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By the time you get through
your praising the Lord because
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you know, you can have victory.
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Over anything - yes - not just
this issue, anything - right.
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Of course, my experience
is to help people realize they
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can have victory over anything.
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But this is my experience,
it is the road I came through.
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I've had people come to me after
hearing my story and say Pastor
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Ron, if God can save
you He can save anybody.
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I'll say you've got
the point, of course,
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that's the whole point.
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My testimony is my story,
you have yours, and she has
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hers, but the
gospel is for everybody.
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If we will look at
our issues as sins issues,
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the remedy is the same.
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It is when we try to excuse
our behavior as an acceptable
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alternative lifestyle,
or a genetic issue, or a
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psychological thing, or
I'm Italian, I'm supposed be
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angry, you know,
that type of thing.
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If we deal with our issues
as sin issues the formula is
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all the same the
remedy is all the same.
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But I went to a pastor I
had heard him speak, and I
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was so blown away by his
presentation because this
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is where I got the rainbow
of promises actually to start
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with, and then I've grown it.
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His whole sermon was one
promise after another after
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another as responsive reading.
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I was so impressed I
called him up when I found out
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that he lived near where I was.
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I went to visit him and
told him my story, and I had
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never told anybody
outside of my life the story.
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I thought he would fall over
in a dead faint, but he didn't.
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He evidently had seen it
before, and he just, while I was
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talking he just
calmly turned in his Bible to
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1 Corinthians 6 verses 9-11.
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Okay, go ahead, share with us.
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"Know ye not that the
unrighteous shall not inherit
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the kingdom of God? Be not
deceived: neither fornicators,
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nor idolaters, nor a
adulterers, nor effeminate, nor
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abusers of
themselves with mankind. "
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"Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers,
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nor extortioners, shall
inherit the kingdom of God. "
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Now when you read that
you think, oh I'm in trouble.
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Oh, I was squirming it
nailed me 3 or 4 times.
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On 3 or 4
different issues - yeah.
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And then he said, he
looked right at me and said and
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"such were some of you. "
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Amen - and he paused,
"but ye are washed, but ye are
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sanctified, but ye are justified
in the name of the Lord
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Jesus, and by the
Spirit of our God. "
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And I was so uncomfortable,
I sat there and did
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another stupid thing.
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What - I kind of snickered
and said you made that up.
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That's not what it says.
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Do you know he did?
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He said, let me read
it again and I go oh no!
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So he read it again -
oh no! So he read it again.
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Read it again - in the interest
of time it is okay - yeah.
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Yeah I think we read it again.
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And he just nailed me.
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And I just felt so
small, "Know ye not that the
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unrighteous shall not
inherit the kingdom of God?
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Be not deceived:" let
no one tell you otherwise.
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neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor a adulterers,
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nor effeminate, nor abusers
of themselves with mankind. "
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You can call it whatever you
want, it is right there - right!
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"Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers,
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nor extortioners, shall
inherit the kingdom of God, and
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"such were some of you. "
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And then he turned it
around - and said look at this.
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I had to look at it and
then he just, like a good
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salesman, he sat
there and looked at me.
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Waiting for me to
respond, I was speechless.
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Finally, he said Ron, I don't
have to tell you what to do,
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do I? You know
what you need to do.
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I didn't go there to make
a decision, I just went there
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to open dialogue,
I wanted information.
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But I'll tell you Cheri,
when I went home that night, I
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was confronted by my partner.
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He said, are you going to
go for all that Jesus stuff?
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I started to lie because I just
didn't want to be confronted.
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I finally said you know it
would only get worse if I don't.
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I finally said yes I am.
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So I took a step,
all hell broke loose.
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He said, I feel like breaking
things, and he went through
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the house and just
broke all kinds of things.
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Throwing things, just demonic.
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He was so devastated, he
was so hurt, but inside, and I
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was traumatized, but inside I
thought did I really say that?
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I just took a step and
that was a step and it was on
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that text, Cheri,
there is power in the word.
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And when you read these
promises of God, they enable
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you, they empower
you to take steps.
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Then you read another one
and you act upon that one, and
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you act upon that one.
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I studied my way to
freedom without ever going
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to the counselors.
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Now I am not saying
don't ever go to one, because
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I are one too now, you know.
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Well, you know is what
I want to say, as you read
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through the Word of God,
what is really interesting is
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saying you know this is damage.
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We are not going to bring
all this damage into heaven or
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into Christianity or whatever.
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God is saying I want to
hear you from that I'm not going
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to condemn but I want you to
clearly put it out there that
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if you're lying, stealing,
sleeping around with everybody.
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If you're in lifestyles
that are damaging to you,
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God is saying stop.
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Because I don't call that
health and I'm never going to
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excuse but I'm going
to give you every single,
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I'm going to
love you into healing.
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I'm going to love you
ready to healing place.
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Well, He's the
Creator and the Re-Creator.
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By the word of the
Lord for the heavens made.
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Can't He re-create the same way?
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I mean through the Word can
He not re-create us from the
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inside out as we
partake of His flesh, you know.
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as we partake - I'm
going to introduce you
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to some of my
friends that came in.
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Just for the show, just to meet
you to just be blessed by you
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and what you are
doing in your ministry.
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First of all, I'd like
to introduce you to KJ.
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KJ, do you have something
you would like share with him.
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Before we even go there,
I want to ask you to let him
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know who you are
first, share your testimony.
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Okay, I would say that
it parallels his somewhat.
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In junior high was in
love with one of my teachers.
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I kept thinking this is so
guilty a can't be this way,
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oh, this is awful.
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The older I got the more I
was attracted to him more and
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more and I finally acted
out went into a lifestyle.
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It was so comfortable,
it was like oh this is where
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I'm supposed to be.
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And then I start drinking,
and that was trying to kill
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that guilt I was dealing with.
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Because you're from
a Christian home - yes.
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An incredible
Christian home, loving mom.
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A loving mom, I would say
there were issues in my family
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that came along that I didn't
know about all I got older.
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My dad was an alcoholic
and a full-blown alcoholic.
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In a didn't know it, I did
know why was getting hit or any
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of those things.
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So which is comfortable
for me to be with women rather
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than to go and be with men.
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He might hit me,
he might do that.
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So I found that to be
rather a comfortable thing.
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But along with it came so
many other issues that I just
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didn't want to have.
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It wasn't until, I think my
major turning point was, you
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just want a loving relationship.
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There is nothing
wrong with wanting a loving
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relationship, God doesn't
have any problem with that.
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The problem is that
it is not with women.
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That was my
turning point I would say.
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And so Ron, what do you
think because she is saying that
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even coming to the point
where she knew in her heart, KJ
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in your heart you
new it was the truth.
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I so want to be
loved you don't even know.
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And now I've got
addiction on top of addiction
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on top of an addiction.
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I feel locked in here.
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This is so true that we
want to be loved and if we feel
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unloved, I felt unloved by
my father and by my brothers.
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They put me down and
called me a sissy, because
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I played the piano.
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Because I didn't
do what they did.
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You know, we want that
affection from our same gender.
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But we have to look for
love and the parameters that
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God has established.
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It's like in the garden of
Eden, people could say well,
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but God created that tree.
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How could that be bad?
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Well, He put a fence around
it, that's a spiritual fence
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around it, and
says don't go there.
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I have learned that maybe
KJ, you have learned this by
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now to that when you are
tempted in some of these areas.
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You just simply
say, well, that is on the
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other side of the fence.
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It is not an option.
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God has given me a
world of wonderful options,
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that's not one of them.
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You look for love in the
right places, and let Him
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develop that for you.
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Now it doesn't come immediately
either, you know - but
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there's, what is real
interesting to me because I have
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been with so much dysfunction
as far as my mom and dad
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and all that kind of stuff.
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Not knowing how to love,
there is some healing that the
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Holy Spirit does with us
by teaching us for one, how to
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pick out trustworthy people.
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We'll continue to pick out
mom and dad for the rest of
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our lives if we don't
learn some of those things.
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There's some things to learn
in that and what's really fun,
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and KJ I know that
she really experienced it.
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What's really fun to me is
when God literally heals us
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and we start being
in those safe places.
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It's like no way, don't you
just want to cry sometimes and
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say how cool is it?
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Yes - to be safe, to be in
love - and that's the thing
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you are talking about the
church being able to pull us in.
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Instead, oh, you are
lesbian oh my, you know, I can't
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sit next to you or
talk to you or whatever.
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Because they are afraid
of you and they don't know
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how to take it.
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And it is that, it is that
wonderful thing when you open
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it up, the one text that sticks
out for me, we all have one,
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is I constantly prayed I want
a way out of this lifestyle.
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What I found is that God
said, all right pickup James,
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start reading James.
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And I got down it wasn't
very far, it says if you lack
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wisdom, if any of you lack
wisdom, just ask and He will
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give it to you.
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I have prayed for
wisdom, the rest of my life.
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I'll always pray for wisdom.
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He gives us in Philippians
2:13 it says it is God that
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works in us to will and to do.
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He gives us the desire, the
Holy Spirit gives us repentance.
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Repentance is a
gift of the Holy Spirit.
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So, if we are willing to
accept the gift He gives us the
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desire and the ability to
follow through on that desire.
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God works in us -
because in repentance, one thing
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about repentance in my own
life is not so much this issue.
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And I have a number of
issues in a glad I don't have
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this one to but this issue
is the fact that I want God
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to show me the ramifications of
what is hurtful about this issue
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What is hurtful about
sin, and when I see that I can
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come to Him in true
repentance and say I see it.
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I see that this is not arbitrary
not that You somehow want to
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take something
from me that is good.
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You are trying to teach
me, what is harmful about that
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and how I get twisted in that.
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We have one more a
friend of mine has come in from
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Pennsylvania, and I
have to say that she is one
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of my favorite people.
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And Rosetta I just went
to you thank you so much for
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coming here, thank you so
much for being brave enough to
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just say out loud, who you
are more you have come from.
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So I'm going to
ask you the same thing.
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To give little of your
testimony, and what do you think
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about what Ron has said?
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Well first of all want to
thank you for the opportunity
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to be able to tell my testimony,
because that has been a
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real struggle for me is
to be able to be honest.
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To be able to say, I always
tell people if you only knew
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me when I was twenty one
you wouldn't want to be in the
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same room with me
let alone talk to me.
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Because you were so
angry and so damaged
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that I wanted to die.
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I drank to die, I drank
to go into bars that were so
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dangerous that
people were getting stabbed.
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I just felt that if they
killed me and put it in the
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newspaper, I was
killed in a gay bar then I
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gotten even with my parents.
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That was my way of
getting even for all the hurt.
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I ended up going
through, sexual abuse when
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I was very young at 7.
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I grew up in an alcoholic
- but somebody, I know you
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some I'm going to jump
in, when somebody says sexual
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abuse, you were
raped as a little girl.
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By a number of kids down
the street - three guys - right.
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And I don't want to
offend anyone, but that is huge.
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So when you stepped away
from really any sex at first,
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either male or female - couldn't
even identified male or female.
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The only way I could tell
the difference between a man
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and a woman, was
that woman had long hair
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and men had short hair.
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Then eventually, I don't
remember what age it changed, I
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could finally said that women
have breasts and men don't.
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But at first you would
even let them have a body.
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No, nobody, it was so
bad, plus the physical
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abuse I was getting at home.
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Verbal abuse, I went for
adult treatment for adult
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treatment for alcoholics,
and they told me that they
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never read, when they wrote
four types of abuse, I just
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wrote all of the above.
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They said they never
heard such a story, but the good
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news is that God, in His
mercy said, when Christian
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would say to me that you need
to be broken, I would just weep.
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Because I was already
beaten, and it wasn't until God
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finally said in my heart.
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He said Rosetta, you are
already broken, I want your
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pieces, let me have
them all your pieces so
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you can have wholeness.
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So, you are jumping
into this lifestyle.
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Somebody gets you to a meeting,
and I want you to tell them
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about that because it just
cracked me up to think you're
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lovers mom was a Christian
and just loved on you forever.
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She just loved me to death,
and I finally said to her.
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Why did you do
that, why did you love me?
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She said what you were the
best thing she drug home yet.
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So was kind of like this
lost puppy that finally got
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rescued, and
this woman loved me.
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All I knew was I couldn't
understand why she cooked
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funny, didn't understand
why she didn't do things on
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Saturday, all I knew was
when I looked in her eyes she
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had something I didn't have.
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If there's one thing I
know of a person, at least in my
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experience the lifestyle
is, I knew I was going to hell.
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I knew I was a sinner,
what I didn't know was how
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do I get out of here?
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How do you get out of
here and this woman loved me.
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So you end up at a meeting
go ahead and tell me about that.
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I was at a meeting in
Michigan, Camp Meeting and I can
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remember going by and I'm
saying to my friend, what these
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people don't smoke.
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They don't drink, I mean,
there's miles of tents, and
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I'm like unbelievable, you know.
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I'm just like right there,
I smoke, I drink, I do joints.
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Anyhow we get to
the meeting, and here's
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H. M. S.
Richards, Jr. is preaching.
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On the last night I had
been there every night and on
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the last night. He is standing
up there, and I'm on the
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balcony, because it was so
crowded everybody was there.
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He's saying. I'm not
going to stop because he feels
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impressed - I'm
having an altar call - he is.
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There is someone here that
is supposed to come forward.
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I'm up in the balcony, I'm
hanging onto the railing, my
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hands are turning yellow
because the blood is not there.
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I mean, I am gripping and
my heart is feeling like it's
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coming out and I'm
yelling no! no! no!
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I look at my friend, a
you know, what we need to do?
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I am oh no, and finally,
it seemed like forever to get
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my hands off the
railing, and he waited.
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Because I had to go up the
back of the balcony and down the
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steps and up this aisle.
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He says that he is going
to pray for every person that
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came forward, I don't
remember how many it was.
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We were the last and
when we came, we told him
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what struggles we had.
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And if ever in my life I ever
met Jesus, it was with that man.
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Because he didn't
judge you, you said,
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we are in the lesbian lifestyle.
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He just wrapped
his arms around us.
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I mean, my head is in his
armpit, and he just prayed and
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prayed and asked God and he
promised to send material to
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help us, and he
kept his promise.
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From that time on,
it was just amazing.
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I landed up in the little
church, and there was little
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lady I sat next
to and I wore slacks.
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One day just said it's
okay for you to wear slacks.
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She checked the
Bible, she said, as long as
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they are not men's pants.
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And she just, God sent me
there, she was tone death and
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the only voice she
could hear was mine.
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She was getting ready to
leave the church, but she
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searched her Bible to
make sure that it was okay that
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I could be there.
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But you know, I just
want to say, for one, I am so
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thrilled that you're here.
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I'm so thrilled that you
here, so thrilled that you let
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go of the railing and came up.
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I'm so thrilled that God
has brought you to this place.
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Ron, you know, what they
are talking about when you talk
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about just being petrified,
coming out of this lifestyle.
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It is like will be
Church even open their doors.
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Does God even want me back.
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So when you get that sense
for the first time, not only
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does He want me back,
but I think He's calling.
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I think He is waiting just
for me, I think He will not
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go on with this until I
hear this and the joy that
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comes in our heart.
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That is huge! - it is
and we need to realize the
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church, I heard this said in
Romania were we do mission work.
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One of our dear friends
over, said Pastor Ron the
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church is a hospital.
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Yes, the church is a
hospital, and you have people of
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all levels of health and
illness within that hospital.
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If we would look at it that
way, we would welcome anyone
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to come for help and healing.
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And some people are
terminally ill, some people are
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chronically ill, some
are just in with a sniffle.
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But we help them and if
they need surgery they get
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surgery, they go
to the recovery room.
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Eventually, they need to
come out of the recovery room.
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Go to nursing school
and come back and work.
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So we need to realize in
John 8: verse 36, I think.
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It says when the Son sets
you free, you are free indeed.
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We can be healed, we
can be healthy in the Lord.
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We can be strong for
other people and help them
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come out of their illnesses,
their spiritual illnesses.
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But God delights in
doing what He has done for you
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Rosetta, He delights
when all heaven rejoices when
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someone like you repents.
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I me that is just thrilling.
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I remember when I was baptized,
I remember thinking all
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heaven is
having a party tonight.
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Right now because of me,
and I was someone who had felt
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so worthless, and so unimportant
so insignificant, and to
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realize Jesus does not want
to spend eternity without you.
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He will miss you
if you are not there.
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And that is why He has
done what He has done and
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why He is doing
what He is doing.
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I need to share this
quote to if I may - yes.
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"Through all ages and in
all nations. Those who believe
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that Jesus can and will
save them personally", it is
00:21:41.97\00:21:46.94
very personal, "from sin
are the elect and chosen of
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God. His peculiar
treasure - isn't that amazing.
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They obey His call, they
come out from the world and
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they separate themselves
from every unclean thought
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and unholy practice. "
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That's what Jesus wants to
do for each and everyone of
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us - I heard people
say, and it might be
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around that same quote.
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Is the very folks that we
are, the more damaged you are,
00:22:11.77\00:22:16.76
the distance you come to
come back to God, and to be
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there with Him, that those
folks are going to be sitting
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at the very feet
of Jesus in heaven.
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And I'm like, I don't go how
true that is, but I like that.
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Because I'm going to be right
there, do you know what I mean?
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I'm so grandiose
I'm thinking that
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I'm going to be
just right there.
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But God is not so put off
by us that we are going to be
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just in the crowd,
but God says your name.
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I know every
single time you stood up.
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I know when you
stood up and fell down.
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I know when this grips you again
and you finally let it go again.
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I just want you to know
that I am there, every moment of
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this recovery, every moment
of this journey, every time
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you stand up and
you are thrilled.
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Man I'm a woman of God,
instead of I think I'm a
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lesbian, or heroine
addict, I think I have a porn
00:23:05.44\00:23:08.53
addiction, I think I am
the man or woman of God,
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standing in the presence of
a holy God and belonging here.
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How cool is that!
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We should not let the
nature of our temptations define
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who we are, because Jesus
was tempted in all points like
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as we are, yet without sin.
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We're done, thank
you for joining us.
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Thank you for having me
- thank you for being brave
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enough to share this testimony.
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Thanks for the opportunity.
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We are going ahead and
take a break and come right back
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Stay with us!
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But weren't you grabbed
by this and wowed by this?
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When ever I see that God
is no respecter of our damage.
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He says, if you are
damaged in any area step up,
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cause I'm ready.
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We'll be right back!
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