Welcome back,
what I didn't tell you
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earlier about this
program is that the program that
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we were working on that
didn't work out was about
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your identity in Christ.
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And it didn't work out
and were leaving the set and
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walking out and Jonathan
and his family comes in.
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He starts talking just
about what his passion is,
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and his passions are
your identity in Christ.
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And I'm just thinking I'm
just cracking up, I'm thinking
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God how funny are you.
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And as I'm even kind of
enjoying the fact that this
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message is unfolding in
front of me, through this
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incredibly nice looking
guy with his funny accent and
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He could say better
than I was going to say it.
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And that was a good point
and all that kind of stuff.
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I feel like the Holy
Spirit just kind of birthed
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this program, in my
mind I'm like we have to
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let you say that.
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We have to get you up
here, and one thing led to
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another and we have the show.
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So I wanted to say I was
blessed, I was so blessed
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by how you unfolded that for us.
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Identity in Christ,
I'm going to hunt for that,
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until it kills me.
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And the only way I'm going
to find it is to turn around and
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say God, who am I in you?
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Who am I, so I'm
going to introduce you to a
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few other family members.
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Melissa, I'm going
to have you come up.
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I know that you guys are in
town doing some music stuff.
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You are a musical
family, and so tell us a little
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bit about your family.
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Are you always a
Christian group, I mean,
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and all that kind of stuff?
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Yeah, basically our
family, it's been a recent thing
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that we been doing
music together as a family.
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We've all come
from different places.
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Different places in what way?
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Well, basically God has
corrected all of our pictures
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of what He is really
like, which has brought us all
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together as a family.
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What an incredible way to
say that, because sometimes
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our picture of God is so
skewed that it's hard to stand
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up and do any kind of ministry.
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So your saying He came in
and kind of worked with each of
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you, and now you are
doing a music ministry.
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Your from Australia, what
brought you to the states?
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A company called Pan De
Vida invited us to come out.
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Panda Vida records David
Asscherick's Commentaries and
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basically we been touring
around different churches
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and universities
for the last few weeks.
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So when somebody says
what do you present in song,
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what kind of
things do you present?
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Well, the main thing
is that God gives us all
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different gifts, and
they are to help each other
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to see what God is really like.
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So what has been most on
my heart is to be able to,
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well the thing that means
most to me about God is that
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in my very weakest
times, sometimes when I feel the
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most wretched, God helps
me to see that He doesn't
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distance Himself
away from me at all.
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In those times He
is closer than close.
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And if He wasn't closer
than close I would have no
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ability to get
out of that situation.
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Isn't that incredible, so
what you are saying is when
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you guys present in
music is that each of you have
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something on your heart,
where Jonathan is talking
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about, that my heart
has an identity in Christ.
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And you are saying, and
I just want people to know
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that God never leaves us.
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That God never, even
when I am feeling horrible,
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God doesn't leave.
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So, that's way cool.
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And so each
person, in your family
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in your group has a
testimony that they bring
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in through the music.
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Cause a true picture
of God and His love for
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us is what heals our minds.
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The whole thing about what
Jonathan was saying is that
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truth sets you free.
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So if you can put that in
music it's helping us all to
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be able to
dwell on those truths.
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How cool is that - I love that.
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There is times that I
am really stressing and I
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can't even sing, but
I'll will hear something that
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somebody presents in music,
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and I just let it
wash through my head.
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Even go through the
chorus over and over until
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I'm just settled in
the fact that God loves me.
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God bless you guys
and what are doing.
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Okay, I am going
to bring Billy up.
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You know, what is really
fun to me with you Billy,
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the fact that you
are just way to hip.
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No way! That's when I
first saw you I thought this
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guy is way to hip.
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So what I am going -
Jonathan says I'm a geek.
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No way, no way but I
want you to just tell us
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who you are?
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I know the Jonathan's
passion is identity in Christ,
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so who are you, where
did you come from, because
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you're so sold out to
God, how did that happen?
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And I'm like not going to
back away a little, not much
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because I think I
want to talk to you.
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Well I'm 20 years of age, and
I just graduated from a school
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called Arise, a
wonderful evangelism
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school in Michigan.
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We've loved America, but I
just came out of high school
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2 years ago and I'm
starting university, this year.
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I really have a
passion to reach young people.
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Similar to Jonathan's
messages, well, I sense some
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of the struggles that
they have of loneliness
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and striving for acceptance.
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And you were in,
were you a rock 'n roll?
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Yes - so you were
from that background?
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I will be sharing that story
now of my time in rock 'n roll
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industry and the effect
of that had on my mind - Yes!
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Okay, go ahead.
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Thank you, well actually,
I started my rock 'n roll
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career when I was
actually 14 years of age.
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But this kind of came
from a whole series of feeling
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lonely and not accepted.
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I knew I had such a
struggle for significance.
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When I came home from
school I would put on this band,
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I don't remember
the name right now.
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Starting in Newcastle,
that was our hometown.
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Although I have went to
church all my life, churches
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seem so irrelevant to
me, because I'm feeling these
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feelings of depression.
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These anxieties I'm
having as a little kid.
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I'm told all this information
from my church members
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and my pastors, but it
just so intellectual and so much
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information I
couldn't relate to that.
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Because I'm insecure, I'm
struggling for an identity.
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But I saw that my
favorite rock stars.
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Particularly this man Daniel
Jones, he wrote this amazing
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songs to me at the time.
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Songs with a title like
Freak, I'm a freak of nature.
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And I was just like I
feel like a freak, I feel
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like I'm out of place,
I feel like nobody really
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wants to be around me.
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And there was a song
called No Association,
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leave me alone I want to live.
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And so I was sitting
alone in my room, weeping over
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a girl I just broke up
with, it really kind of sunk
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to my heart, it was
true music to my ears.
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But it actually was when
my brother was in high school,
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there was a period of
time when he was searching,
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all that and he was
searching out popularity,
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he was going to the parties.
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But eventually, he had
been swept into the rock music
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industry after he
joined a band called
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The Ones with Tadpoles.
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The Ones with Tadpoles
were up-and-coming punk band.
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Jonathan was just a
normal kind of guy, but now he
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was actually this rock
star, the lead guitarist
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of this pop band.
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Of course, I'm
pretty close to my brother,
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we're from a close knit family.
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If I have an older
brother, I look up to him.
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I look at what he does
and want to be like him.
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Because he's my hero, and I
am this little insecure kid.
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My brother now is parading
up on stage and he has a whole,
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whole school flocking after him.
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He has girls that
are running after him,
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and I want that.
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I want that kind of security
that he has in popularity.
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I want that
kind of significance.
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So as a little 13 year old
I'm coming to my big brother
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said hey Jonathan you know
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I'm a little bass player
and I'm really good at playing,
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and I could
really be in your band.
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And then he comes over
with those big words that say,
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Billy your too young, I
already have a bass player.
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And of course those
words just ring in my mind,
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and I'm thinking to
myself, oh man, he just shot
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me down, my dreams
have been shattered.
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I'm kind of just scratching
my head at this moment
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time, I am in a
really bad social situation.
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Where I have gotten myself
into trouble, because I've
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claimed that my
brother is so big and popular.
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I've tried to break the
whole social scene, but within
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this kind of
period of time in my life,
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I was with friends,
people that were older than me.
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These friends or
people were 16 and 17,
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and I myself was 13 at the time.
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I remember that I would
go to the supermarket with
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my friends, and they
would say hey Billy see that
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tower of boxes
go and run into it.
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Knock them down, and
I would go and do it.
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Because I would go to any
distance, I'd go to any length
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to seek that
value from my friends.
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Because I didn't find any
value from any higher power
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from my parents.
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This is the way out for me.
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So I would do anything
this is the length that
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I would go to.
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But then a couple months
later, somehow, I received this
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call from my sister
saying that there is a band that
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wants me to play for them.
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Now this band is 17,
they have band members that
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are 17 and 18 and 19.
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And I'm still 14 at the time.
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But they say Billy we
want you to come play for our
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band you do have some
skills, you got the look.
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What started out as just
playing a couple of different
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events locally turned
into signing a record deal.
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And it turned into
doing photo shoots.
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Then it turned around to
flying around and playing.
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and so I finally have
stars in my eyes - like yes!
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I have victory,
I have something.
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People want me, people want
to be associated with me now.
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I'm actually, people
come over and now I'm like
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with Billy Otto now.
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I'm his friend, so I'm cool too.
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Suddenly I'm playing
in front of hundreds,
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maybe thousands of people.
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It's a different kind of
the ecstatic feeling that you
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get when you're playing
this riff, this powerful riff.
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There is this kind of
the emotion in the air,
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there's all these
people with their hands up.
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It's almost like you're being
in a sense, worshiped or adored.
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And coming from this insecure
teenage stage, I'm just like
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man, I've got something.
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And the girls are
looking at me as well,
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it's like man I'm wanted.
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I'd get off stage and suddenly,
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I would feel empty again.
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I'd come home from
touring for maybe 3 weeks,
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or 2 weeks even.
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I just come home to my
little home town, in a place
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called Valentine with my
family and I was just Billy
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again from a simple street.
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So I knew my value system
of being in this band was not
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consistent, because at any
stage my band could break up.
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Like my lead singer was always
thinking maybe I don't want to
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do this anymore, and my
guitarist was thinking of going
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off into his own band thing.
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But at the same time
my brother is having this
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experience where he is
seeing that things aren't
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right in my family.
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My family is
dabbling in spiritualism.
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Suddenly, these different
events that are going on,
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where there's happening
to my sisters, there's things
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happening to me
when I am sleeping.
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I'm being almost oppressed
by something kind of spooky.
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But my brother is
going okay, I'm still a punk
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rocker, but I care for my
family, I have a conscious.
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So my brother starts to
pick up the Bible somehow,
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the Holy Spirit just guides him.
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And he begins to see that
there's entity to my family
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situation and although he
is just trying to study to help
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out my family, I'm beginning
to see there's a countenance
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change of his face.
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There is a peace that he
begins to carry, there is
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a completeness
that he has and I want.
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And the Lord started
bringing this change through his
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life, and it was so attractive
yet, because I'm still
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in the punk rock scene.
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I'm already comparing
myself to my brother because my
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brother is in
the same scene as me.
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I spent weeks and months
and years just trying to be
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better than my brother.
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Trying to gain more
of my father's favor.
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And trying to be more
popular than my brother.
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But right now I can just see
he is separate from the scene,
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the Lord is changing his heart.
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He starts to just bring
these words from the Bible
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about my Fathers in
heaven love, and it leads up
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to an event in my life.
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I'm having this massive
birthday party, and there's
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hundreds of my
friends bands there,
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oh hundreds of my friends there.
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My bands they are there,
my favorite punk band that
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my friends are in.
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There are so many people
that are just there for me,
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but I myself
feel so out of place.
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I feel alone, like all
these people are dressing like
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me and wanting to be like me.
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And they were saying
Billy love you so much man.
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But I just feel alone, I
feel like I'm the only person
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there with these struggles.
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Because I think to myself
man I have everything, I have
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this band that I'm playing in.
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I have all these friends
that love me and I'm now a
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fashion model as well.
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I had his hair cut with this
bang that comes over my eyes,
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and I'm wearing these
girls pants, and I think man
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and I am just in this
place, where I have everything.
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But really I just feel
lonely again, I feel empty,
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I feel dissatisfied.
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Still church to me at the
time felt so irrelevant but
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I knew that there was an
internal craving that I had
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that nothing could satisfy.
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From this experience of
my birthday party, there were
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something that happened
that triggered a thought my head
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that said Billy, you
aren't even being yourself.
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Who are you?.
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I had this vision of
mind, I was looking into a
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mirror, I had went into
the bathroom, I just thought
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I'd don't have an identity.
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I'm just trying to
be something I'm not.
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I threw off a piece of my
clothing, and I went home.
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I kept on smiling to all
friends, and they all thought
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I was having a great time.
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Although some of my
friends would say to me,
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Billy you don't
look happy, what's wrong?
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But through a series of
months, the Lord started to
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reveal Himself to
me through nature.
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Through my family, my family
and I went to a family vacation
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trip in the Great
Barrier Reef, a beautiful
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place we went Sunday's.
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I began to learn about
the personality of God.
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The character of God
is a close Father, not a
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faraway arbitrary God
that was out to criticize me,
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nor look down upon me,
about my difference, my God,
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I began to see that my
Father in heaven didn't
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look down to me as a
scattered kid who was trying
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to rebel from Him, but as a kid
that was longing for identity.
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I began to notice
that Christ was someone
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who actually humbled Himself.
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There was a particular
passage in Philippians 2:5,
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that said: "let this mind
be in you and which was also
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in Christ Jesus, who being
in the very form of God did not
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consider it robbery to
be equal with God, but made
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himself of no reputation
coming in the likeness of men. "
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Just the humility of God
just really blew me away.
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Like I thought that God
was so big and so arbitrary.
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But God who actually gave
everything, for a parent to
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give His Son who
is the world to Him.
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I began to see that my
Father in heaven actually gave
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all of heaven to win me back.
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And I knew there was a new
identity that I was striving for
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and I responded to a speaker,
and this moment in Sydney
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by a man called
David Asscherick.
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He's a good friend of mine now.
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And all these thoughts, his
testimony resonated with mine,
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and the Lord was saying to
me Billy, I love you this much
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why are you so running from me?
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And I was struggling
with the Lord at that moment,
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just thinking
Lord, this is all I have,
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this band is everything to me.
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This popularity this
scene, I can't leave it.
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This is who I am, I think, but
I don't know what I'm thinking.
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But the Lord said Billy, I want
to set you free, just let Me.
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So I said, Lord, please
change my heart, I hate myself,
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hate feeling this way, I'm
so depressed, I'm so selfish,
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I'm so vague.
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I got home from this
conference, and my band member
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said to me, he rang me up
a couple hours after I had
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just gotten home in my hometown,
he said Billy I want to
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quit the band, I
can't play in this anymore.
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And I was kind of like
man, and I was trying to pray
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and bring this
to my band members.
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I was like man, these are my
best friends, what am I going
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to say to them, I want to leave
this band, I can't play in it,
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but they are going to disown me.
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But here my guitarist
comes after me and says
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Billy, I can't play
in this scene anymore.
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I started doing cartwheels.
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I felt suddenly
that I was just released.
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And for that one moment
I knew I was secure in my
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Heavenly Father's love.
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You know, I've got
to say something because
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I think it's interesting.
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Because you are
literally going to have to walk
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away from everything.
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You are literally
saying okay, now who am I?
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And was that a tough
time to say that I am not this
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and I know I'm not this,
God revealed to me who I am.
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But how do I stand in
that, because I don't know
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how to stand in that.
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And it's hard to
because all my friends were from
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this particular scene.
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I had found so
much security in them.
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But as the Lord starts
to re-create your heart,
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He begins to change
the things you once loved,
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you begin to hate.
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And the things you once
loved the things you once hated,
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you begin to love.
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I began to look at
my friends differently.
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I began to see that I
was valued as a son of God.
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I didn't need to be
involved in that scene anymore.
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What is really interesting
to me when you talk about
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that is that I and I work
with a lot of people coming
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from that backgrounds that
are so intense like you said
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into punk rock, alternative
rock, all that kind of stuff.
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And as they come into
their Christianity I watch
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God with all this kind of
twistedness in their mind,
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I watch God
slowly just untwist them.
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And set them free
and that un-twisting.
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And it's weird to watch
that first few months of
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standing there
saying but, but, but.
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It's almost like I
don't know-how to stand yet,
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and God says trust Me
here, trust Me right here.
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Yeah - how cool is that!
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So now how did you get
from that point to where you
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guys are doing a
ministry as a family together?
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Well from that
experience the Lord just started
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to unite our family.
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Suddenly, my sisters
and I, with my brother,
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even my parents.
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My mom came from an
Islamic background, but she
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was baptized when she
was young, but she fell in
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love with the Lord
again and suddenly there was
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revival in the home.
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And even people
from our street begin
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to see a change,
people from the church we were
00:18:57.22\00:18:59.73
associated with
began to see a change.
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My friends began to see
change as well, but from that
00:19:01.26\00:19:06.93
moment on this
peace was in our hearts.
00:19:06.96\00:19:08.97
And although I had
done my own thing as a
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punk rock kid, I
wanted to go out and tour my
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own self around the country.
00:19:14.42\00:19:16.45
But now, I felt the
desire to bring back the family
00:19:16.48\00:19:18.61
together to start to
do music again together.
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So we began to listen
to some of my sister songs.
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And she has an incredible voice.
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She has an incredible
gift - and she writes.
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Yes, all that some of it
is original music, and she
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writes from her
devotional thoughts.
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So could you imagine, and
I just have to say imagine
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this that all the sudden
God is watching you guys grow,
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knowing the giftings you
have, but then everybody's
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going in the wrong direction.
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I think all of heaven
is saying wait, wait, wait.
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You guys just hang in
there, knowing He wants to
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stand you up in ministry.
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You're playing punk, and
your brothers to this rock
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stuff, and I just think
all of heaven just must've
00:19:56.81\00:19:59.82
been so thrilled as you
came back to the table and
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started writing for Him.
00:20:03.38\00:20:05.23
Now that it's only been
a month and a half since
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we started this again.
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This tour has been such
a blessing, like I've never
00:20:09.51\00:20:12.66
worked with my family before.
00:20:12.69\00:20:13.88
They recorded most of
the albums without me,
00:20:13.91\00:20:17.22
because I was
away doing ministry.
00:20:17.25\00:20:19.04
But it's such a privilege,
because I always hear lots of
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testimonies of a family
member that might come out
00:20:22.55\00:20:25.62
and say, I've come out of this
scene and the Lord has blessed,
00:20:25.65\00:20:27.75
but that's my whole family.
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What's funny to me is
like when you said it's only
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been a month or so, is
that God must be moving you guys
00:20:32.83\00:20:37.06
pretty fast because you
walked in to a studio and they
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say, excuse me, how
about getting up here and talk.
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He's moving you
guys pretty fast.
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To speak your mind
as far as who God is.
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And who you are in Christ.
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And I can see why He does
that, because I go to schools
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all over the place, colleges,
academies, I do weeks of prayers
00:20:54.69\00:20:58.07
and I'm always
doing this kind of stuff.
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What is really interesting
to me is that most of time when
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I'm at academies,
high schools, and colleges
00:21:03.08\00:21:05.34
I talk to people that are
wanting to kill themselves
00:21:05.37\00:21:07.61
and they are depressed,
they've got porn addictions,
00:21:07.64\00:21:10.74
they've got all this struggle,
00:21:10.77\00:21:12.13
that it is a time to come
up and just say who we are in
00:21:12.16\00:21:15.38
Christ, and how
important that is.
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And so I can see why He
needs to stand you guys up.
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Cause know I'm old, I
could say the same thing.
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I know, but I could say
the same thing that you say,
00:21:23.21\00:21:25.75
and yet a group of high
school folks are going to hear
00:21:25.78\00:21:28.56
it differently from you.
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Right - they're going
to hear it differently.
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So to me, I almost want to
look at you and say how cool
00:21:31.57\00:21:36.27
is it that God is raising
up people that actually can
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speak to this generation.
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It's awesome, it's awesome.
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I want to introduce Gaea now.
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And Gaea what's
really cool, you can go ahead
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and have a seat.
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What is really cool
about meeting everybody is
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you are not a family member.
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So what brought
you into the group and
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where did you guys meet?
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About two years
ago as we met at a
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youth conference in Australia.
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Yeah, we all met
and just clicked.
00:22:00.69\00:22:03.11
When they talk about
their history of being like in
00:22:03.14\00:22:06.65
rock bands, and not in
church and all that kind of
00:22:06.68\00:22:09.12
stuff, was that your
history to or were you?
00:22:09.15\00:22:11.09
Very different, I was
brought up pretty much from
00:22:11.12\00:22:15.89
9 years old I started
going to church with my mom.
00:22:15.92\00:22:18.21
She was brought up in a
Pentecostal church, and just
00:22:18.24\00:22:21.44
loving truth at
this point in time.
00:22:21.47\00:22:24.07
I was coming to church
with her, but it was kind of,
00:22:24.10\00:22:27.10
I guess the whole thing,
I went because my mom went.
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So at this point in
time I meet these guys.
00:22:29.61\00:22:31.88
I guess I had a
lot of head knowledge,
00:22:31.91\00:22:35.44
but I had never experienced God.
00:22:35.47\00:22:37.64
I was crying out
to experience Him.
00:22:37.67\00:22:39.82
Isn't it different when
you look at somebody and you
00:22:39.85\00:22:42.68
know they're in a relationship?
00:22:42.71\00:22:44.64
They are in a relationship
with God, they know God.
00:22:44.67\00:22:47.23
This is not theoretical to
them, not that they memorize
00:22:47.26\00:22:50.54
the Scriptures,
that they love this guy.
00:22:50.57\00:22:52.20
And your heart
just says I want that.
00:22:52.23\00:22:54.58
Definitely - I
want that - definitely.
00:22:54.61\00:22:56.71
So, you stepped into a
relationship with them,
00:22:56.74\00:23:00.58
with God in a more real
sense about the same time.
00:23:00.61\00:23:03.31
Yeah, definitely - and
you are a vocalist - yeah.
00:23:03.34\00:23:06.01
You know I would like you to
tell me is as you stepped into
00:23:06.04\00:23:09.39
a relationship with God,
as God shows Himself more real
00:23:09.42\00:23:12.43
and you connecting in
such a real way with Him,
00:23:12.46\00:23:14.72
what was that like?
00:23:14.75\00:23:15.77
The reason I'm asking you
is not because I want you to
00:23:15.80\00:23:17.70
tell me what all that
was like because I know.
00:23:17.73\00:23:19.17
I know I love God.
00:23:19.20\00:23:20.76
But somebody listening
that doesn't know that, that has
00:23:20.79\00:23:24.30
just gone to church
and all that kind of stuff.
00:23:24.33\00:23:26.29
What would you tell them
about how different it is?
00:23:26.32\00:23:28.79
I liked before when you
sharing with us about your
00:23:28.82\00:23:32.39
experience, your background.
00:23:32.42\00:23:33.62
I can relate to a lot of
that having a sense of I'm
00:23:33.65\00:23:36.81
worth nothing to
God, but then we get told,
00:23:36.84\00:23:40.93
He loves us, He loves us.
00:23:40.96\00:23:42.15
So we think that must
just be a love because
00:23:42.18\00:23:44.37
He has to love us.
00:23:44.40\00:23:45.45
When you start realizing
that He chooses to love you,
00:23:45.48\00:23:49.20
if He looks at you
in is amazed by you.
00:23:49.23\00:23:51.35
Like He adores
you, it's like WHAT!
00:23:51.38\00:23:54.43
No way, and then if
I don't believe that
00:23:54.46\00:23:57.32
I'm means I'm
saying He is a liar.
00:23:57.35\00:23:58.84
God doesn't lie and that means
00:23:58.87\00:24:00.47
I'm worth that much to Him?
00:24:00.50\00:24:02.09
So when you realize that,
like all of your experience
00:24:02.12\00:24:06.21
of head knowledge of trying
to flex your muscles to try
00:24:06.24\00:24:09.26
to do what is right,
what is expected of you, like.
00:24:09.29\00:24:11.49
Trying to make Him
proud of you, He's like
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I'm so am proud of you.
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And people around you
even trying to please them by
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the way you act, like
that just fades and the
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Commandments in all of
these kind of things that
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were like
painful, is just a joy.
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Like it is a joy to want
to respect other people and
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to love them and
to show them how much
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they are worth as well.
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Instead of being sad or
down all the time and making
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other people feel like that.
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How incredible is that!
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You know I love
when someone decides to
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unfold for us, because a
lot of times we'll just say
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I met God and
became more real and go on.
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I'm thinking wait, wait, wait.
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Backup because when God
becomes more real, all that joy
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comes, all the sudden I
look at the word of God in its
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not just this kind of
cold thing that I'm reading.
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It's alive, and God is speaking
to me through it and I walk
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outside and He
shows me something, and
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I thinking did You show me that?
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He's like yeah,
and I'm thinking,
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shut up how cool is that!
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And knowing that I had it
come out of that just that
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minute for God to be
that real and show me that,
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and Him just waiting
for me to open the door.
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I'm thinking, I don't
take we have a clue of how
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much God loves us and
how He wants to develop our
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giftings and ministry
in step us out and fill us
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up with a passion.
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I just so love meeting you guys.
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You guys are amazing.
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We have one more person
Sarah, I want you come up.
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We don't have a lot of
time, but I want to find out,
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cause you know I'm
hearing everybody's story, and I
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can't wait to hear about you.
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So, you are the
youngest, tell me a little
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bit about you.
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Were you in a
rock band, did you come
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from the same background?
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I was never in a rock
band, but I think the identity
00:25:48.52\00:25:54.60
struggle that we all
have is all is manifested in
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some shape or form.
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God has really
blessed our family and brought
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us into such truth.
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So were you as the stuff
started happening, you saw
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this happen with your
brothers saw that all of a
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sudden come into the family.
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Is it different be at your
house now than it was before?
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Yeah, definitely. I
love my family so much.
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It's incredible, and people see
our concerts and look at us and
00:26:21.40\00:26:26.51
say you're a family that love
each other so much your perfect.
00:26:26.54\00:26:30.00
We are like no where not
the bunch, the Brady Bunch.
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We are not
perfect, but things have not
00:26:34.73\00:26:39.33
always been like this.
00:26:39.36\00:26:40.56
Don't people just assume
that you've always been this
00:26:40.59\00:26:43.72
way, but you've always
had God in your life, you've
00:26:43.75\00:26:45.61
always been this close,
and they make that assumption
00:26:45.64\00:26:48.16
I'm sure when they see you.
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Yeah, like Melissa for
example, I used to be the
00:26:49.25\00:26:55.07
brat in the family and
I hope I'm not anymore.
00:26:55.10\00:26:57.30
Like she'd always
say, Sarah you brat!
00:26:57.33\00:27:00.48
Like me and Billy would
have identity struggles being
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the closest in age,
competing with one another,
00:27:04.56\00:27:08.53
but God has brought us
into such a loving unity.
00:27:08.57\00:27:12.45
As we been studying the
word and learning more about
00:27:12.49\00:27:16.34
His character by
learning about Him by
00:27:16.38\00:27:19.18
beholding Him, we
have become changed.
00:27:19.21\00:27:21.97
He's changed our family.
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You know it's incredible
when you say that, is that all
00:27:23.21\00:27:26.04
those kind of
things that we expect as
00:27:26.08\00:27:27.85
normal family interaction.
00:27:27.89\00:27:29.83
With God, it is not
normal, do you know what,
00:27:29.86\00:27:32.35
I mean it's not normal.
00:27:32.39\00:27:33.65
And so is those change.
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I bet you guys are blessed.
00:27:35.16\00:27:36.52
I'm blessed by
getting to know you guys
00:27:36.56\00:27:38.41
I'm blessed that
you are on the set.
00:27:38.44\00:27:40.22
I can't wait to see you
guys in concert tomorrow
00:27:40.25\00:27:42.84
and I know, somebody
said you have a CD and
00:27:42.87\00:27:45.42
I get to have one.
00:27:45.46\00:27:46.60
Yes, you can have one - Woo Hoo!
00:27:46.64\00:27:48.26
Okay, you know what we are
going ahead and break right now.
00:27:48.29\00:27:52.34
And I want to break, and
the close we are coming back
00:27:52.38\00:27:54.95
to is going to be a little
bit longer, because I want
00:27:54.99\00:27:57.53
to bring Jonathan back
and ask him a few things.
00:27:57.57\00:28:00.58
So we are going to break
right now, so stay with us!
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