Welcome back!
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This is going to
be we're just going to
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have to just like run with this.
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I have four people
that I really want to,
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well beside myself,
have three well besides me.
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I really want you to
hear their testimony,
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the story of their
impact, what God has
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done in their life.
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All that kind of
stuff and so we are just
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going to go with that.
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I had to move Harmony
down to a table because
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there's so many
people here and I want to say
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God bless you, Hi and
I want you to finish up
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your testimony and tell us what
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stepped you into ministry.
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And then I want you to
introduce Ashley for us.
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And so we are just
going to jump in right now.
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So I'm going to give it to you.
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Ready to go.
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So, just after I had
developed my relationship
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with God, I continued on
counseling with a Christian
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counselor, Bible
studies and everything I could
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to pursue healing in my life.
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I got to a point
where I started thinking
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more outside of myself.
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It takes a while
- it takes a while.
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It's all about
me for a long time.
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It takes years.
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And let me just stop
and say, for a lot of people
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that are normal,
when it's all about us,
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it's really tough.
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We come into a
potluck and say Hi,
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my name is Cheri,
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I tried to kill
myself when I was 8.
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But you know
I'm getting over it.
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It just really
messes up the whole room.
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The whole dialogue
changes, but because we are so
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damaged that we
don't even know how to get
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outside of that yet.
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And I'm even going to
say out loud, with mercy,
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let us get through that stage.
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God is really patient
and if you can mentor and
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privately walk us
through it faster,
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that's great, but
don't shun us while we are
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there, because it is
a step, it's a stage.
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Go ahead, Harmony.
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So, what ended up
happening is, one day I was
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going to pick my
husband up at the airport.
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I drove by the club
that I used work at,
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and I pulled over on
the side of the road,
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was sitting
across the club and just
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praying for the girls inside.
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Which I normally did
that, but at this point,
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there were
something even stronger.
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It was like a tug on my heart.
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Like I'm glad I'm
praying for them, but I
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want to like go in there.
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I want to do something
because I felt like I was
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sitting outside of the prison,
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that had once held me captive.
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And here I am outside
of it but I know there
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is still girls there.
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I looked over to
the console in my car,
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I had a stack of
postcards there that just
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said her value is
far above rubies and
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pearls on them.
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It had a beautiful picture.
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So I wrote little
handwritten notes on each one,
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and old co-worker of yours.
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I just want you to
know that you are loved,
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and there is a place
for you and gave them
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the information of my church.
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I Invited them,
just to extended the
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hand of a relationship.
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And put them on the
cars of the dancers.
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It was just that
simple little gesture,
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that all of a sudden I
started thinking well what
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if I did this every
time, when I drove by the club.
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I wonder if every time
I saw a club, I would just
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have something to
give to the girls.
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I ended up taking
that to one of the
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pastors at my church.
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And they said one
100 percent go for it.
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Other people are going to
want to get involved with you.
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We started meeting and
now we are a non-profit
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organization called Treasures.
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Don't you think it's
funny that God just sets it up.
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One thing happens
God says, you know what I
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literally want to
step you up into that.
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It is not appropriate
for some guy that is just
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from a normal background
to step into a strip club.
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Is just not appropriate.
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But for you, and your
heart, and the Holy Spirit,
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it's so is appropriate.
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So we go to a 170
clubs a year with gift bags
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for the girls.
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Shut up I'm so proud of you.
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I know it's exciting,
all over LA, Orange County,
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and Las Vegas.
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Simple message that
they are loved and valuable.
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They can contact us.
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Can I, you know, what
is really funny about what
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you are doing with
that simple message, is that
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you are literally speaking
blessings into their life,
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like that teacher
didn't speak into yours.
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You are speaking
blessings even if it's on
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their windshield,
and they don't know that
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they have a
blessings spoke over them.
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Now we actually get
to go into the clubs and
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give the gifts
directly to the girls.
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And really the model
for the ministry is very
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similar to the
relationship I have with
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the girl ballet class.
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It's just extending
our hand in relationship,
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getting them plugged
into a support network,
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into a community.
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Getting them around
other women so they can start
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walking out that
journey and developing that
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exploring relationship with God.
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And that's what
you how you met Ashley.
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So then introduce
us to Ashley and then
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I want to hear a
little bit of her testimony.
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So this is my friend
Ashley, and when I first
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started Treasures I
was praying to God, we need
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a place to take these girls.
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A safe place where the
girls could come, and work out
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their issues and
let their hair down.
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And sure enough, we had
known each other and we had
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crossed paths in
the lobby of our church.
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And she's handing
out flyers for this group
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Breaking The Silence that she
about to start, so I was like,
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Oh my gosh, that's
what I've been praying for.
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Maybe she can tell you
more about what she does.
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About the same time
that God was working
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in Harmony's heart with
the girls at the strip club,
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He was also
working in mine because
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I was raped in college.
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And I had an abortion right
before a moved to Los Angeles,
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about six years ago.
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I was sexually molested
as a child by other children.
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So when I came to LA I had a
lot in my closet, so to speak.
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Where I am from and
most the people I knew,
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didn't talk about
that kind of stuff.
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So I wanted to get
involved in church I really
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wanted to help people.
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So I started leading a
group called Girls Night out.
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It was like a fun night
out, Spa nights, movie nights,
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different things like that.
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But then, the more and
more I got connected with
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the girls, here I am
with all my baggage that
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I'm not talking about.
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And dying inside -
oh, totally, absolutely.
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So that I get connection
with this group of girls.
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The more I talk to
them, this one had an
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eating disorder, this
one has this and I was
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like going whoa,
I'm not the only one.
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So then at that point
there was a girl in our group,
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and she would
walk home every night.
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Our group was close
to downtown LA, why are
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you walking, I just
thought it was a few blocks.
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So one night we got
out late and I told her,
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I'm going to
take you home tonight.
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And she's like, no! no!
no! you can't take me home.
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And I'm like I
am taking you home.
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There is no way
you're going to walk.
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So she gets in the car
with me, we would drive to
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downtown and before I
know it we're on skid row.
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Which is the worst
part in LA, you know,
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like the worst.
- I've been there.
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So, you know, it's awful.
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So, we are down
there, my heart is breaking
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inside, and she said
that's my, that's mine on the
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corner but can you
drop me here, which was like
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three blocks back.
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And I was like no I'll
park the car and walk you in.
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And with this look on
her face, she was humiliated,
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just like please,
please just drop me off.
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And everything in me broke.
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I drop her off, out
of respect, and a couple
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of minutes later my phone rings.
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She said, hey
Ashley it's so and so, can
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you, if you don't know
this by now, I'm homeless.
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And I thought,
she's in my group,
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she doesn't have a home.
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She worked two jobs
and had a cell phone
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and I didn't know.
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So I thought, how can I be
leading this group of women,
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and this is what's going on.
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And this is
what's going on with me.
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Not even know,
and my heart broke.
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So that's when God really,
were the title comes from.
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My heart breaks when
I'm hearing that because a
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lot times even speaking at
a church, is that I don't get
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out of there for hours and
hours, because somebody has
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to say, you know I'm damaged.
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I'm met an 83-year-old
woman, was trashed with a sexual
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addiction, her whole life.
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She was molested when she was 3.
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That never talk to anybody.
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I'm thinking somebody
has got to say out loud so it
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doesn't just fester in us.
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And it gives people...,
that's why it's called
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Breaking the Silence.
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It's like if I do
that other people will.
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Then when Harmony and I
crossed paths, she said we knew
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one another but when we
crossed paths it was just like
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okay this is a divine moment.
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Ever since then, we
have been interlaced.
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My role in Treasures, has
shifted in various seasons,
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when I'm on the
outreach with them or whatever,
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but what has never
changed is offering
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breaking the
silence to the girls.
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They can come in and
speak about what ever.
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Whatever and you
can be where you are.
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I don't care if you're
mad about this, or cry about
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this, or you don't like people.
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It doesn't matter to me,
because the reality is they
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all show up and sit in
the same room and one women
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will be in her 50's, and
one girl is 19, and another
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girl is married, and
one has kids, one's single.
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One love God, one hates God.
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That's exactly right.
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So for me I look at that
and I go, that's it, that's what
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we're about, because it
doesn't matter because like on a
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basic human level,
when I lay my head down at
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night, I need the
same things you do.
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So, that is
what connects us all.
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If we can stay there in
that place with no mask,
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on, this is were we are
going to be at, then you
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can love people where they are.
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And in that place of
acceptance, the Holy Spirit can
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say, you know what thank
you, because I can work here.
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I can work here.
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And bond people together.
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We had a journey of recovery
of coming out a some things
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and once you have
walked out of that,
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like she said you can look at
people and you can just see it.
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It's like I can't be
free, and not offer it to you.
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Not offer you a tool.
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Not to offer you a word even.
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If all I have God is an
encouragement, smile, a hug,
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that's all I've got
to give you but I'm going
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to give you that.
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I laughed one time, I
said I had been in a church ten
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years trying to be normal.
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And I got all clothes and I'm
sitting there, and I'm dying.
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At one point I thought, I
want to run up on the front
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of the stage and grab the
mic and say, does anybody know
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that I am dying here.
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I'm dying here.
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I have never been held
in my life by my parents.
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They try to self
abort six different times.
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I've never been told,
sit down, we want you here.
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And I walk someone to touch me.
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And I had been in
the church ten years.
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So it's like being out of
the safe, Breaking the Silence.
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You know it's time that
the church says, you know what,
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we want you here.
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We want you here - I see you.
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And we want you here,
whether you love God or hate God
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or what ever because
God will do the work in you.
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Because you matter to God.
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It doesn't matter if I might
have my thing up about You.
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That doesn't matter
because you still matter to God.
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So when I look at
you, I have to see Him.
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Such doesn't matter to
me, you know what I mean.
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I'm proud of you.
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Okay, now I want
to bring in Dr. Weiss.
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You have been on the show
we've had a couple shows with
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you, because I just
love what you have to offer.
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What you have to offer
here to these two women?
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Well the first thing that
I want to say, Cheri, is that
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I'm really incredibly proud
of these two ladies, because
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this is the
Church of Jesus Christ.
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You don't need
degrees, you don't have to go
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to all this
training to love somebody who
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has got issues.
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You do not need a
training to do that.
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And if more ladies in
the church would do this,
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the world would be
empty of its harlots.
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You know I'm saying?
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The only reason that our
culture is trapped is because
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the church is not the
active ingredient in change.
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You are twenty
something when you started this.
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If a 20-year-old
girl can make change
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in a 170 strip clubs.
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What are you doing, you who have
been Christians, for 25 years?
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Do you know what I am saying?
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And you can feel that
silence in there because,
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what are we doing?
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What is the local church doing
for the people who are stuck?
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If a 25-year-old girl
can put a whole denomination
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to shame, come on!
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So I'm proud of you and God
has called you to a ministry
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that is incredible.
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And you can do it
because you've been there.
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And that's with
God does so again,
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whatever your wounds are.
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Don't hide them, because
you'll die in the church.
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Go ahead and express
them, heal from them, do the
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counseling, do
what you have got to do.
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Get into loving groups
with other women, other men,
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if you are a man.
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Do the work, so God can lay
a foundation to heal others.
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It's all about that.
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I've been abandoned,
abused, neglected, addicted,
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and God has used that
story to heal people who
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are in that story.
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We have a story to celebrate
and share, and so often
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we want to hide our
story, which God is proud of.
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I'm proud I delivered
you from that, and that,
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and that, and that, and that.
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Why you acting
like you're some saint?
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You ain't no saint,
remember your story, boy?
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God likes to share His
glory through our story.
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You know what really
is funny, is that one
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time, if the demoniac would
have said, you know, okay I'm
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going to go back, but I'm
just going to tell people.
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But I had just a
tiny problem with anger.
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I had an issue.
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And I'm thinking, yet
a thousand demons in you.
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You know you had
more than an issue.
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That's a much better story,
great title for a book too.
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You know, I had a thousand
demons and God delivered me.
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But this is amazing what you are
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doing is practical love.
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You don't need a lot of
training to practically love.
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Now these ladies have
other issues, they can
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get into and stuff like that.
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And we are all
survivors of sexual abuse,
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and we
understand the work of that.
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Can you talk a little bit
about, because I know you have
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done some material on
sexual addiction, or coming from
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those kind of lifestyles.
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Can you share a little
bit about that with us?
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Coming out of that lifestyle,
what kind of things can we
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look at and heal from?
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I think when you are in
those lifestyles you are going
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to see people who've been
sexually abused, who have been
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abandoned by their parents
that we talked about here
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with Harmony's story.
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There is going to be all
kinds of traumas that repeat
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themselves, because
perpetrators are looking for
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unprotected women.
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When the Dad's out of the house,
it's an unprotected woman.
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And perpetrators look for that.
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So that's why Harmony
that was again, and again,
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and again, and again.
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Because one, you had this
scar, you were unprotected.
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So that is kind of a
double whammy to repeat
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that happening
in your life again.
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So moving forward having
support, whether it's a twelve
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step group, in a local
church group in a Bible study
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group, you just need
some friends to say I see your
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flaws, and I love you.
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Like can we go there?
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Can you be loved, and I
know you're not perfect.
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And if you can go there
then you see the unconditional
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love and accept us in the group.
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One thing that is amazing
to me is some people will get
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sweaty palms for thinking
about a support group, where
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we're talking problem
based, join a knitting class.
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It's really just
hanging out with somebody you
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eventually talked
to about whatever.
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Right, and we have phone
groups for people who are
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struggling with sexual
addiction and stuff like that.
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Because if you're talking
about it and working on it and
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setting some goals and
you're being practical about
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that, you can heal.
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God is not saying oh,
there is a problem I can't heal.
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I've been looking at
your history, and I haven't
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solved that one yet.
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He is already solved the
problem of abuse, of pain,
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abandonment, and
shame, and guilt.
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He did that on the cross.
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He did that through
the Holy Spirit and His
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resurrection power.
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But He needs outlets like
an Ashley to talk a Harmony.
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And we need the good
girls and good boys to
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interface with those who are
struggling to move them forward.
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And again, some of us feel
like I'm not ministry, unless
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I go to Bible school.
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That has become such a
curse, it is good to go to Bible
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school, I've got three
degrees from Bible schools.
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It is a good thing to
go to Bible school, okay,
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I am not saying that.
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But that doesn't exclude
the rest of the 98 percent
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of the body of Christ, to
do ministry of Jesus Christ.
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His ministry is to love
one another and be fruitful,
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and multiply.
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You can do that
without ever going to school.
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And I just got to say I just
read the study, and the study
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said, the study was across the
board on all kinds of Christian
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denomination's in this study.
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They said that in the
Christian church, the number
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one problem, if
you actually got into
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somebody's heart, and
asked them, is loneliness.
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So, we are lonely, in
an organization where Jesus
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commanded us, or encouraged
us to love one another.
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And loneliness is
the number one problem.
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You are hitting the key
issue because, like it's not
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like we don't huddle up,
we run convention centers.
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We own more real
estate than McDonald's.
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I mean the church is a powerful
huddled up organization,
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and sometimes we
influence politics.
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We are a huddled group.
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But we are not
authentic in the huddle.
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That is the power
of authenticity, right?
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That's what
breaking the silence did.
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Totally without it,
Harmony is being authentic
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today by sharing her story.
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And Ashley sharing her story.
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There are ladies
out there that are going
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to be touched today.
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Through authenticity, that
is what God is doing today.
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So that the huddle doesn't
become anything more than
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watching the
performers do ministry.
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It's a huddle of
authentic friends who say hey,
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I see that fall, I love you,
let's go to work, let's do that.
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And let's play together
with our unperfected selves.
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Instead of just
putting clothes on it.
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You know what I am saying?
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I think you
hear what I'm saying.
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And that is the
heart of God the Father.
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But it is not only His
heart it's His mandate.
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I'm embarrassed that I'm
not going into a 170 clubs.
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Your wife would be calling you.
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I wouldn't do it on your life.
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You're wife would
be going hey buddy.
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But I am saying that I
am embarrassed for us as a
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church that we haven't
been doing this and Harmony
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wasn't a part of that.
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I wish her story was
Man! that local church,
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they came into us and loved
on us and wouldn't let us go
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until that we believe we
didn't have to do this anymore.
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I wish that was your story.
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The first time I went into
a strip club, I stopped from
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my church, and I'm dressed
and I'm adorable in this little
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dress, nice outfit and I
had passed a strip club and saw
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this 16-year-old girl go in.
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So I went to the church,
and I said, when I leave here
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today, I'm good at going
to the strip club because my
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heart is just broken.
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And the entire congregation
was silent like, can you do
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that on the Sabbath?
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It's like can you do that?
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And I started literally with
this group saying we're going to
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pray for this building, and we
are going to pray some day that
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God will claim the territory,
that this building is on.
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And that a church is there.
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Within that year, and this
is just with one congregation
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praying, within that year
the place was shut down, went
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through to other businesses,
and now is a vacant lot.
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I believe that our prayer
will be answered some day that
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a church is on there.
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We do not realize the
power we have of what God has
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called us to do is to
just say we literally need to
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reclaim what the devil has
stolen from us as children,
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and in our
communities, in our churches.
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Here is a funny story.
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I have a pastor friend of
mine who, their building used
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to be an adult movie theater.
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Those were some
pretty sleazy places.
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They had gotten shut
down and they took it and now
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they own the
whole block for God.
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And I think that we can do that.
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But what we are talking
about is that we have the
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ability in the Spirit of
God to do incredible things.
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It starts with love,
it starts with prayer.
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But let's do that,
let's join up with ministries
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like Treasures who
are the hands and feet and
00:18:05.72\00:18:08.91
let them do that.
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Let's partner with them.
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I'm excited for what God
is doing in these ladies lives
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and the lives of the
ladies who are out there because
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they joined the battle.
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Girls can go into
strip clubs, guys can't.
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It's like there are
certain things some parts of the
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body can do that for certain
parts it is not best to do.
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Even for men just being
able to say and to speak
00:18:25.99\00:18:29.05
blessings into the world
around you, no matter where
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they are in their recovery.
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For Harmony, that was her thing.
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That's huge!
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That's a valid
point that we are family.
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When you come into the
family of God, and for families
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to adopt some of the
people who are wounded is
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really makes a big difference.
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Could you imagine with
your beautiful daughter, and if
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somebody encouraged her
to strip rather than tell
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who she is in Christ.
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I would kill them.
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No I really wouldn't
kill him, I would make
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him wish he was dead.
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I would be very angry.
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So just being able to say
that we have the power to speak
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life or death
over someone's life.
00:19:01.86\00:19:03.26
And God has given us
the keys to heaven the power
00:19:03.29\00:19:05.71
to do that
through the Holy Spirit.
00:19:05.74\00:19:07.31
It's a great gift our
words are very powerful life
00:19:07.35\00:19:10.01
giving in, and I would
ask you Ashley, what would you
00:19:10.05\00:19:12.65
like to say to a woman who
been raped or abused, abandoned
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What would you like to say
to her if she she's listening
00:19:16.27\00:19:19.79
right now, what would
you like to say to her?
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That it matters, it
matters and you matter.
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And God cares about
that, He is the God who sees,
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He is the God who hears,
and He's the God who knows,
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maybe no one else
knows, but God does knows.
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It matters to Him.
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His heart breaks with
you, He will see you through.
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He won't let you go.
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He will hold your hand
and walk you through the whole
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thing and give you the
courage and strength to speak up
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to someone who
it will matter to.
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Even beyond that, I remember
working with somebody that
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came up and finally
said, she had had an abortion.
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I was with somebody
that had a little tiny fetus.
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I'm not sure they was a
musician person and I'm not sure
00:19:59.62\00:20:02.49
why they had that.
00:20:02.52\00:20:03.49
But it was a
little tiny 10-week old
00:20:03.50\00:20:05.43
fetus that felt real.
00:20:05.46\00:20:07.16
And she had a little
baby blanket, and so I said,
00:20:07.19\00:20:09.61
can I use that?
00:20:09.65\00:20:10.79
And I gave this to my
friend and said I want you to
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spend the night
with this little baby,
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with this comforter.
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And I want you just
process, tell her you're sorry.
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Deal with that, tell her,
do what ever you have to do
00:20:20.10\00:20:22.87
to let go of that.
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As she held it was the
saddest thing for me because
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I watched her walk
away and she was sobbing.
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She said, I spent the
night, got in the tub, I had to
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be that kind of
birthing thing had happened.
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Next day she came out, freed.
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Just free and
forgiven, processed with God.
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So it's likely
just can't forget it.
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We can't just say
I'm going to bury it.
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You have to process it.
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Let's just talk
about that because this is
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where someone gets stuck.
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Like Ashley, she's
beautiful, she's got all the
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stuff compartmentalized
in her life, and she's
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playing her little
Christian thing okay.
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It wasn't until
you talk to somebody.
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You let those words out
of your mouth, I was raped,
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I was abused.
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When we confess our faults
one to another, and sometimes
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were not responsible for faults.
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I wasn't
responsible for being abandoned.
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I wasn't responsible for
being conceived illegitimately.
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I wasn't responsible
for being in foster homes.
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I wasn't responsible
for being sexually abused.
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But there is
still part of my story.
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And if we confess our
faults, our deepest secrets
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to another safe
person, a safe person, then the
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Scripture says that we
may be healed, and the prayers
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of a righteous
person availeth much.
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And that is where we
need to go as a church.
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Listen, I'm
flawed, how about you?
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Here's my flaws and
once you open your mouth,
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that's what I would say
to the ladies that are here,
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you need to open your mouth.
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And the men, they had been
sexually abused, you need to
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open your mouth and tell a
safe brother or sister in the
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Lord, Hey, this is my heart.
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It has the pain that
has been caused in my life.
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I need to let it out of
my heart, so I can be loved.
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So I can be healed.
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I believe Scriptures
true, if I confess my faults to
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somebody I will be healed.
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I know what I did that
it changed my whole life.
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The chains fall off.
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I was so free I was
jumping around literally,
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because I believe the
secret, if you really knew me,
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you wouldn't love me.
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Because I knew me
and I didn't love me.
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And so once that changed
around, and I told them my
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dirtiest stuff, you
know what I'm saying Cheri.
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my dirtiest stuff, and they're
like you know I love you.
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God forgives you, and at
that point, that chain around my
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heart just popped open.
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And I was able to live
and love and from that day to
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this I have not
experienced shame.
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How cool is that!
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Do you see what I'm saying
because no matter what I do
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I'm going to be loved.
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Now I try not to do
things that are unlovable.
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But there's no such thing
as the secret, I don't keep
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them anymore and it's wonderful.
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That's the key that I
think your stories highlight.
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Is I had to tell somebody.
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If you stay in the secret,
you can be religious and stay
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in that little secret spot.
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There is plenty of men and
women in our audience who are
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listening, who have been
in the church for 25 years and
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They haven't told about
their rape, they haven't told
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about their abortion.
00:23:06.12\00:23:07.15
They haven't told about
the incident they had with
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the same sex when they
were 12 years old, and that
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secret is still back
there hurting their heart.
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They don't think it
matters, but once you get
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a grip and you understand
that you matter, your story
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matters, then your
story, which was so devastating
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becomes a tool in your hand.
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Like a tool for me, I
can offer that to people.
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Because when they hear
that it's like oh! Okay!
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I can say that,
that's all right, like it's
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okay to say that?
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They are not going to judge
me, they are not going think
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I'm somehow flawed.
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That's right, and a lot of
times, that's why a safe person
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is key, because a lot of
times we have maybe talked
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something with
somebody who wasn't safe.
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So, that also keys us in
shame and secrecy but once you
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find people who are
willing to speak up with you and
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stand for you.
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And one thing that is
really interesting for a lot of
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damage people we think
safe people means 100 percent
00:23:55.76\00:23:58.82
right all the time.
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Doing the right thing,
there's nobody like that.
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Safe people means safe.
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They are still
going to stumble around,
00:24:04.33\00:24:05.39
they are still are
not going to be perfect.
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I'm still going to give
them permission to stand,
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fall and all that kind of stuff.
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Because that's incredible.
00:24:10.37\00:24:11.43
I can tell you in breaking
the silence, I'm sure all my
00:24:11.46\00:24:13.60
joys and when stuff comes up.
00:24:13.63\00:24:16.88
It's like I could just
come it be full of God know,
00:24:16.91\00:24:20.04
my goodness, that I
can even tell you how much.
00:24:20.07\00:24:23.16
God kiss me on the face today.
00:24:23.19\00:24:24.54
And the next day I can say.
00:24:24.58\00:24:25.86
I don't know why but
that rape we talked about.
00:24:25.90\00:24:28.20
I'm struggling with
insecurity of that today and
00:24:28.24\00:24:30.51
I'm not sure why.
00:24:30.55\00:24:31.60
It is just being able to
say this is a safe person
00:24:31.64\00:24:34.11
who is not perfect.
00:24:34.14\00:24:35.11
They are just
working their stuff.
00:24:35.12\00:24:36.60
And they are on
the journey with you.
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We're on the journey
together, you know, one of the
00:24:38.16\00:24:40.65
things the love about
Jesus is that He put 12 guys who
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didn't know each other, or
might have heard about each
00:24:42.97\00:24:45.19
other, and He put
them in the same proximity
00:24:45.22\00:24:47.58
for like a few years.
00:24:47.61\00:24:48.73
And they did the
journey together.
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So they got to share different
angles of Jesus together,
00:24:51.97\00:24:55.68
because John wasn't
there, when Matthew was.
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And Luke missed that thing.
00:24:58.19\00:24:59.69
And so they were
there and able to say wow.
00:24:59.73\00:25:02.77
I've never heard
something so interesting.
00:25:02.80\00:25:05.69
And they got to
process the journey of life
00:25:05.72\00:25:08.57
with Him together.
00:25:08.60\00:25:09.68
I can even see them
saying, with the water and
00:25:09.72\00:25:13.19
all that, Who is this guy?
00:25:13.22\00:25:14.78
In our relationship with
each other, who is this guy
00:25:14.81\00:25:17.49
that can heal, who is
this guy that I can feel holy
00:25:17.53\00:25:20.17
right now with my background.
00:25:20.21\00:25:22.07
Who is this guy,
how cool is that!
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I think like breaking the
silence in what Harmony is
00:25:23.97\00:25:26.67
doing, and there are other
people doing ministries across
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the world who are
reaching out to hurting people.
00:25:29.40\00:25:31.80
But it's a journey
together, a journey process.
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And that is what
the family of God.
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I think we jump churches
just because we don't like the
00:25:35.62\00:25:38.63
pastor or we jump
churches, because we don't
00:25:38.66\00:25:40.80
like to worship leader that day.
00:25:40.83\00:25:42.26
And it's not that, it's
a journey of life together.
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With a small group of
people who know Jesus.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
00:25:47.03\00:25:48.27
Then you go through together
and say wow this is great.
00:25:48.30\00:25:51.70
I was there Jesus changed
your life, I was there when
00:25:51.73\00:25:55.09
He did that miracle for you.
00:25:55.13\00:25:56.27
So it don't you act
like you're rejected in
00:25:56.30\00:25:58.48
the kingdom of God.
00:25:58.51\00:25:59.55
I was there when
He saved you from this
00:25:59.58\00:26:01.95
situation or that situation.
00:26:01.99\00:26:02.96
I was there, He was
there and you know it.
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That relationship makes a shift
in people's hearts and lives.
00:26:05.41\00:26:10.16
So, I think that what
we are talking about is a
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community that is willing to
travel together through a season
00:26:12.83\00:26:15.45
That's our friendship.
00:26:15.48\00:26:17.69
The other thing that I
would like and wanted to
00:26:17.73\00:26:18.81
interject too, is I think
a lot of people who deal with
00:26:18.85\00:26:20.95
such shame laden issues.
00:26:20.99\00:26:22.59
Deal with this but I
spent so much time stuffing and
00:26:22.62\00:26:25.16
suppressing and hiding
that I was afraid that the
00:26:25.73\00:26:27.68
first time I spoke it out,
the first time I told I was
00:26:27.71\00:26:29.74
going to fall apart.
00:26:29.78\00:26:30.96
I was going to lose
control of all my facilities.
00:26:30.99\00:26:33.49
I was going to end
up in a mental hospital.
00:26:33.53\00:26:34.66
and they would
have to lock me away,
00:26:34.87\00:26:35.88
I mean it was a real fear.
00:26:35.91\00:26:37.44
But what you keep
hidden you are in bondage to.
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The experience was the same
and when I told and it was one
00:26:40.72\00:26:43.28
of the scariest
things I have ever had to do.
00:26:43.32\00:26:45.58
But I lived and God is a
gentleman and He helped me
00:26:45.61\00:26:48.47
pick up the pieces.
00:26:48.50\00:26:49.47
He didn't let me fall apart.
00:26:49.48\00:26:51.07
As I spoke that power that
that secret had over my life,
00:26:51.10\00:26:55.65
loosened, and I
became free from the bondage
00:26:55.69\00:26:59.60
than I was before.
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Go the next step Harmony,
now God uses your mouth to
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break those chains.
00:27:03.96\00:27:05.74
Now He gives you
power to release others.
00:27:05.77\00:27:08.13
Now He's put you in the
place to be an apostle to put to
00:27:08.16\00:27:11.17
shame people because of
the freedom you offer, because
00:27:11.21\00:27:14.19
you're willing
to open your mouth.
00:27:14.22\00:27:15.44
So the beginning of opening
and confessing our faults,
00:27:15.47\00:27:18.68
is the beginning
of opening our mouth.
00:27:18.71\00:27:21.17
So we can let the
pain out, then God will
00:27:21.21\00:27:23.60
put in our heart, in our
Spirit the authority to break
00:27:23.64\00:27:26.45
the very chains that held us.
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So if you want a
ministry, open your mouth.
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Share the story of
freedom that God has given you,
00:27:31.69\00:27:34.78
and He will start giving
you thousands of people that
00:27:34.81\00:27:37.87
will get free through
your life and in glory
00:27:37.90\00:27:39.84
that is the commerce.
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What did you do
while you were on Earth.
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I opened my mouth and
Lord look what you did,
00:27:44.36\00:27:46.43
all these people got set free.
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This is fun.
00:27:47.70\00:27:48.97
And you know, when they
talk about any kind of good
00:27:49.00\00:27:52.05
recovery program says
on the last step 12-steps.
00:27:52.09\00:27:55.10
Go tell someone go tell someone.
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And I don't think we realize
somebody said to me Cheri
00:27:57.16\00:27:59.56
what you do is so cool,
because I get to do to do TV,
00:27:59.60\00:28:01.96
travel and all
that kind of stuff.
00:28:02.00\00:28:03.38
God has put an alternate
recovery program together for
00:28:03.42\00:28:06.12
me because I'm ADD
and I need to move around.
00:28:06.15\00:28:09.52
It is almost like He
says in your telling I will
00:28:09.55\00:28:12.85
continuously bless and
re-save and re-remind you of all
00:28:12.88\00:28:16.28
the things I've
done in your life.
00:28:16.32\00:28:18.80
Interestingly, they did a
study ten year longitudinal
00:28:18.84\00:28:20.99
study in which
they followed this group
00:28:21.02\00:28:23.13
of alcoholics for ten years.
00:28:23.17\00:28:24.14
Which is a long study,
and they found only two
00:28:24.15\00:28:26.75
variables that
separated those who stayed sober
00:28:26.79\00:28:29.56
and those who didn't.
00:28:29.59\00:28:30.61
One was they still
went to the support group,
00:28:30.64\00:28:32.77
so that's that community.
00:28:32.80\00:28:34.14
In two they were
sponsoring others.
00:28:34.18\00:28:37.42
They were giving
their story away.
00:28:37.45\00:28:40.63
Those with the only two
variables that separated
00:28:40.66\00:28:43.25
the sober people
from the non-sober people.
00:28:43.28\00:28:45.60
I have to end this
show, I don't want to.
00:28:45.64\00:28:47.99
I don't want to I
want you guys to just
00:28:48.03\00:28:50.35
talk and talk and talk.
00:28:50.38\00:28:51.46
I'm sorry.
00:28:51.50\00:28:52.47
Harmony God bless you for
coming, and I want to have you
00:28:52.48\00:28:56.00
back on it if that's okay.
00:28:56.04\00:28:57.33
I would love to come back.
00:28:57.36\00:28:58.58
And Ashley you
too, and every single
00:28:58.62\00:29:00.33
woman in your group.
00:29:00.36\00:29:02.08
Wouldn't that be fun.
00:29:02.11\00:29:03.76
And Dr. Weiss. I just want
to say, I pray that God will
00:29:03.79\00:29:07.10
bless you and your ministry
all over the world because I
00:29:07.14\00:29:10.41
know that your
ministry is all over the world.
00:29:10.45\00:29:11.87
Thank you so much
for hanging out with us
00:29:11.91\00:29:14.00
for a little while.
00:29:14.03\00:29:15.00
Thank you, being here is great.
00:29:15.01\00:29:15.98
Way cool! We are
going to be right back.
00:29:15.99\00:29:17.95
So stay with us and I
just pray that you were
00:29:17.98\00:29:20.76
blessed and your life
was changed by what you
00:29:20.80\00:29:23.54
heard here are today.
00:29:23.58\00:29:24.55
And that umm,
you're just proud of God.
00:29:24.56\00:29:27.63
I'm proud of God.
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We will be right
back. Stay with us!
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