Welcome to Celebrating Life in Recovery. 00:00:09.48\00:00:11.81 I'm Cheri your host. 00:00:11.85\00:00:12.82 Have you ever heard the expression that God brought 00:00:12.83\00:00:15.45 a person out of darkness into light. 00:00:15.48\00:00:17.37 Do you want to know what that means? 00:00:17.41\00:00:19.27 Stay with us! 00:00:19.30\00:00:20.31 In my opinion, it's a bigger miracle than the 00:00:20.35\00:00:22.21 parting of the Red Sea. 00:00:22.24\00:00:23.43 Welcome back. 00:00:50.06\00:00:51.72 I love this show. 00:00:51.76\00:00:53.35 I love doing it, I love putting it together, 00:00:53.39\00:00:55.29 I love introducing you to friends of mine, just 00:00:55.32\00:00:57.18 the miracles that God is doing around the 00:00:57.22\00:01:00.15 world are absolutely incredible. 00:01:00.19\00:01:01.53 We are going to do the show a little bit different 00:01:01.57\00:01:03.27 today from a because I have some friends from Milan. 00:01:03.30\00:01:05.88 Also, I want to bring Dr. Doug Weiss back in to 00:01:05.92\00:01:08.64 meet them and kind of go over their testimonies. 00:01:08.67\00:01:11.54 Not so much their testimonies, you know I don't 00:01:11.58\00:01:14.41 when I hear somebody's testimony. 00:01:14.45\00:01:15.52 I understand where people are coming from, hard 00:01:15.55\00:01:19.60 backgrounds, or molest issues or addiction. 00:01:19.64\00:01:23.62 What really excites me is when I hear somebody say, 00:01:23.65\00:01:26.66 then they saw God and God stepped in 00:01:26.69\00:01:28.99 it was this huge thing. 00:01:29.02\00:01:30.51 So are going to talk about all that today. 00:01:30.55\00:01:34.26 We're not only going to talk about how God, not only brings 00:01:34.30\00:01:36.72 you out of that kind of darkness into light, but stands 00:01:36.75\00:01:39.14 you up in ministry, which I think is absolutely 00:01:39.18\00:01:40.99 the coolest thing. 00:01:41.03\00:01:42.36 But you know, first of all I want to share with 00:01:42.39\00:01:44.91 you a little bit. 00:01:44.95\00:01:45.92 We're going to talk about how to be holy in the 00:01:45.93\00:01:47.36 presence of a holy God. 00:01:47.40\00:01:48.45 When I first read that I thought, 00:01:48.49\00:01:49.93 what does that mean? 00:01:49.97\00:01:50.94 You know, I've been on the streets for ten years, 00:01:50.96\00:01:53.57 I have this background is a little different from 00:01:53.60\00:01:56.17 yours more than likely. 00:01:56.21\00:01:57.18 So holy and from a holy God, and I'm thinking holy. 00:01:57.19\00:02:01.45 I don't even know what that word means. 00:02:01.48\00:02:03.19 but it doesn't sound like it's very much fun. 00:02:03.22\00:02:05.00 You know, I may not want to be holy. 00:02:05.03\00:02:07.49 And then I watching Saturday night live, 00:02:07.53\00:02:09.43 and for people haven't seen that show, 00:02:09.47\00:02:11.31 there was a woman there called the Church Lady. 00:02:11.34\00:02:13.83 And she came and she has her hair in a bun, 00:02:13.87\00:02:16.32 and she's like, always kind of mad. 00:02:16.36\00:02:17.60 She has got this black dress on, and serious. 00:02:17.63\00:02:20.52 She holds up a Bible, you know who made you do that? 00:02:20.55\00:02:24.45 Satan made you do that. 00:02:24.49\00:02:25.91 And I'm thinking God, I love you, but do not make 00:02:25.94\00:02:28.89 me the Church Lady, because I don't even like her. 00:02:28.93\00:02:31.14 And I wouldn't even look good in a bun, you know. 00:02:31.18\00:02:34.19 So, I really fought against, I don't know if I 00:02:34.23\00:02:37.21 want to be holy. 00:02:37.24\00:02:38.36 I just want to be fun, you know! 00:02:38.39\00:02:39.65 You can stay the holy thing, I just want to hang 00:02:39.68\00:02:42.04 out with God and have fun. 00:02:42.07\00:02:43.04 And so God kind of showed me, you know what holiness 00:02:43.05\00:02:45.64 is to live a life of recovery. 00:02:45.67\00:02:50.12 Live a life where you like being in your own skin. 00:02:50.15\00:02:51.98 To live a life where you're not manipulated like a puppet. 00:02:52.02\00:02:54.83 With all your addictions and all the junk that was 00:02:54.87\00:02:58.05 told to you as a kid, for some kids that are molested. 00:02:58.09\00:03:01.24 We don't even know how to stay present, 00:03:01.28\00:03:02.88 in any kind sexual situation. 00:03:02.91\00:03:04.54 And we don't know how to love our spouses, 00:03:04.57\00:03:06.36 because of all the junk we carry with us. 00:03:06.40\00:03:08.51 Holiness for God is stepping out of all 00:03:08.55\00:03:10.63 that and being free. 00:03:10.67\00:03:12.06 Step out of all the bondages and all the 00:03:12.10\00:03:14.61 darkness that just kind of wrapped around you. 00:03:14.64\00:03:16.88 God says I'm going to pull you out of all that. 00:03:16.92\00:03:19.76 And He disciplines us in a way that we are able to 00:03:19.80\00:03:22.61 see what's light and what's dark. 00:03:22.64\00:03:23.91 And that doesn't sound good for a lot of people in 00:03:23.94\00:03:25.86 recovery, and so if you're out there and saying 00:03:25.89\00:03:27.77 Cheri I don't like discipline, 00:03:27.81\00:03:29.28 just imagine it this way. 00:03:29.31\00:03:30.83 If I'm going to adopt a kid and I fall in love 00:03:30.87\00:03:36.81 with a little kid that's a gangster, nine years old, 00:03:36.84\00:03:39.67 but a little gangster. 00:03:39.71\00:03:40.76 He steals, and lies, beats everybody up, 00:03:40.79\00:03:42.86 he's s very violent. 00:03:42.90\00:03:44.05 When I bring him into my home, I absolutely fall in 00:03:44.09\00:03:46.75 love this kid, but do you think I'm going to let him 00:03:46.79\00:03:49.41 steal and lie still? 00:03:49.45\00:03:50.75 I'm going to try teach him how to get out of that, 00:03:50.79\00:03:53.88 because I love him and I want him to live a 00:03:53.91\00:03:55.61 life that is good. 00:03:55.64\00:03:57.37 A life where he can connect with other people, 00:03:57.41\00:03:59.27 where he can understand what it feels like to be 00:03:59.31\00:04:01.14 trusted, to be full of joy and 00:04:01.17\00:04:04.90 Just get out of that. 00:04:04.93\00:04:06.35 So when he steals, I'm going to nail him. 00:04:06.39\00:04:09.43 I'm going to say, you know what stealing is not okay. 00:04:09.46\00:04:11.44 When he lies to me I'm going to say, hey buddy. 00:04:11.48\00:04:14.31 I know that you are not a millionaire, your nine, 00:04:14.34\00:04:17.14 you live in my house. 00:04:17.18\00:04:18.15 And every time he lies, hopefully. 00:04:18.16\00:04:20.51 I'm going to come back and say, you know Buddy. 00:04:20.55\00:04:24.24 So as we look at this show we talk about God 00:04:24.27\00:04:27.41 bringing us out of one place into another place. 00:04:27.45\00:04:31.08 Then, setting in front of us a standard, please 00:04:31.11\00:04:34.71 think of the words in a different way. 00:04:34.74\00:04:36.12 He literally adopts us into His house, and says the 00:04:36.15\00:04:39.13 behaviors that you have that you so think are 00:04:39.16\00:04:41.48 normal that are killing you. 00:04:41.51\00:04:43.09 Killing you and keeping you from having an 00:04:43.13\00:04:45.26 incredible life with the people around you. 00:04:45.29\00:04:47.36 I'm going to show you way to get out of them and 00:04:47.39\00:04:49.44 then you'll stand holy in the presence of a holy God. 00:04:49.48\00:04:53.15 And even change a word you'll understand happy. 00:04:53.19\00:04:55.86 In the presence of a happy God, you know what I mean, 00:04:55.89\00:04:58.87 you will use a word that doesn't trigger you. 00:04:58.90\00:05:00.34 Because holiness triggered me. 00:05:00.38\00:05:02.21 I'm okay on that, so stay with that, and then I'm 00:05:02.24\00:05:05.38 going to introduce you to Harmony Dust. 00:05:05.41\00:05:06.85 Harmony, I just want to say God bless you for being 00:05:06.88\00:05:09.79 on the show with us. 00:05:09.83\00:05:11.00 Thank you, it's my honor. 00:05:11.03\00:05:12.18 I'm thrilled - I'm excited. 00:05:12.21\00:05:13.29 You said you would come, I'm like no way. 00:05:13.32\00:05:15.27 I call people here and I said you know what, 00:05:15.31\00:05:17.22 you're going to be blessed. 00:05:17.26\00:05:18.68 And I would like you to start out with your testimony, 00:05:18.72\00:05:21.80 because I want people to know who you are before we 00:05:21.84\00:05:24.89 talk about your ministry. 00:05:24.92\00:05:26.05 Gotcha, I gotcha. 00:05:26.09\00:05:27.06 Yeah, I was raised in Venice, California area 00:05:27.07\00:05:29.77 called Ghost Town. 00:05:29.81\00:05:31.45 My family had a lot of financials struggles. 00:05:31.48\00:05:34.05 My dad left when I was about a year old. 00:05:34.09\00:05:36.58 And I was raised by my mother who was struggling 00:05:36.62\00:05:39.14 with an addiction to cocaine. 00:05:39.18\00:05:40.47 So I just want to say this, because a lot of people 00:05:40.51\00:05:43.96 do not understand that when you're dad leaves you 00:05:44.00\00:05:47.46 really are, you and your mother, are unprotected. 00:05:47.50\00:05:50.72 So you do the best you can, but that is a huge thing. 00:05:50.76\00:05:53.71 And when you say it, we say in our stories, in our 00:05:53.74\00:05:56.49 testimonies, and we say it in a way that people do 00:05:56.53\00:05:59.15 not realize it's unbelievable not to have that 00:05:59.18\00:06:01.77 covering over our families. 00:06:01.80\00:06:03.37 And you know, I'm glad you stop me there because a 00:06:03.40\00:06:05.00 lot of times, I used to gloss over that 00:06:05.04\00:06:07.95 fatherlessness issue because it is so common. 00:06:07.98\00:06:10.16 You know, who even has a father nowadays! 00:06:10.20\00:06:12.34 Where I come from and it is very 00:06:12.37\00:06:14.36 uncommon to have a father. 00:06:14.40\00:06:15.43 But later on, years down the line, I realize that so 00:06:15.46\00:06:18.66 many of the choices that I made came from that void, 00:06:18.69\00:06:21.85 that lack of a really orphaned heart. 00:06:21.89\00:06:24.63 So not having a dad from that early age 00:06:24.67\00:06:27.37 played a huge role in my life. 00:06:27.41\00:06:29.35 Not having the protection not having the covering. 00:06:29.38\00:06:31.02 So, that was a big deal and is a big deal, 00:06:31.05\00:06:34.12 and a lot people can relate to that. 00:06:34.16\00:06:35.34 My mom got involved another relationship, and 00:06:35.37\00:06:42.08 there was domestic violence in my household, 00:06:42.12\00:06:43.90 there was just a lot. 00:06:43.93\00:06:44.90 Not a predictable kind of atmosphere, but one thing 00:06:44.91\00:06:47.50 that did seem to be predictable, unfortunately, 00:06:47.53\00:06:50.17 was that there was this threat of sexual 00:06:50.21\00:06:52.56 abuse throughout my life. 00:06:52.60\00:06:53.72 I was exposed to pornography at three years old. 00:06:53.75\00:06:56.74 And molested by multiple people, men and women, 00:06:56.77\00:06:59.72 and raped as a teenager. 00:06:59.75\00:07:01.30 And it really took its toll on me but 00:07:01.33\00:07:04.00 cause I internalized it. 00:07:04.03\00:07:05.88 I thought it was my fault, I blamed myself like a 00:07:05.92\00:07:07.89 lot of abuse victims do. 00:07:07.93\00:07:09.74 I just thought something must be wrong with me, 00:07:09.78\00:07:11.96 because how do I keep ending up in these situations. 00:07:12.00\00:07:14.79 How do I keep drawing these sort of 00:07:14.83\00:07:16.81 people into my life? 00:07:16.84\00:07:17.81 I really dealt with a lot of blame and a lot of shame. 00:07:17.83\00:07:19.59 I didn't talk about it. 00:07:19.63\00:07:20.98 Can I even jump on there because I think too, 00:07:21.02\00:07:24.41 that somebody is more normal and doesn't have 00:07:24.44\00:07:27.76 that as their every day life, because I had that too 00:07:27.80\00:07:30.36 as my everyday life. 00:07:30.39\00:07:31.47 Is that at soon as somebody even gets into a 00:07:31.51\00:07:35.04 sexualized place with us as children, we know how 00:07:35.08\00:07:39.05 to dissociate and just be gone. 00:07:39.08\00:07:40.57 It doesn't even have to be the act yet, as soon as 00:07:40.61\00:07:42.95 they look at me and I know that that is coming. 00:07:42.99\00:07:45.66 I can dissociate and just deal with what ever is 00:07:45.69\00:07:48.33 happening and then go out and skate. 00:07:48.37\00:07:49.94 Yep Yep! 00:07:49.97\00:07:51.60 The saddest thing, as I got into recovery, 00:07:51.64\00:07:54.37 to realize that it is not just one child, 00:07:54.40\00:07:57.06 it is 1 in 4 girls right now, and 1 in 7 boys. 00:07:57.10\00:08:00.32 So it's huge, but we learned how to associate in 00:08:00.35\00:08:03.54 deal with that as a norm in life. 00:08:03.57\00:08:05.27 And that's what you're saying it was. 00:08:05.30\00:08:07.07 the only constant in your life was that. 00:08:07.10\00:08:08.80 And you do you start to compartmentalize about those 00:08:08.84\00:08:12.90 experiences and you keep them kind of over here 00:08:12.94\00:08:14.13 separate and try to live as normal a life as you can 00:08:14.16\00:08:17.41 over here, you do not know what else to do. 00:08:17.44\00:08:19.50 It does create a life a separation there, 00:08:19.53\00:08:21.55 dissociation definitely. 00:08:21.59\00:08:23.43 So I was sexualized from an early age, and really 00:08:23.47\00:08:26.85 taught that my only value was in my sexuality. 00:08:26.88\00:08:29.57 And you're only power - and my only power. 00:08:29.60\00:08:32.26 Yeah, that's a big one too. 00:08:32.29\00:08:34.05 I ended up at the age of eleven, I met a young boy 00:08:34.08\00:08:38.15 who came, he, you know he was only a little bit older. 00:08:38.18\00:08:42.21 He became almost like a father figure in my life. 00:08:42.25\00:08:45.50 When my mother left for three months, she left me to 00:08:45.53\00:08:48.75 take care of my eight year old brother. 00:08:48.79\00:08:50.06 By yourself in your home. 00:08:50.09\00:08:51.61 Unum, hum! 00:08:51.65\00:08:52.67 I just have to say that because when you told me 00:08:52.70\00:08:54.60 that the first time. 00:08:54.64\00:08:55.61 We were on the radio, but we weren't in the same 00:08:55.62\00:08:58.21 room together, and I just cried for you. 00:08:58.25\00:09:00.03 By yourself taking care of this child. 00:09:00.06\00:09:01.98 And I'm thinking you had no skills anyway, 00:09:02.02\00:09:03.95 because you didn't have any mentor and stuff. 00:09:03.98\00:09:05.88 I'm just thinking man, that's huge. 00:09:05.91\00:09:08.24 And now as an adult looking back, there is some 00:09:08.27\00:09:11.32 rejection, there, but at the time 00:09:11.36\00:09:13.27 I was thinking freedom! 00:09:13.31\00:09:15.03 I was like okay, now I don't have to worry about 00:09:15.07\00:09:18.13 arguing, about how disciplined my brother, no one's 00:09:18.17\00:09:21.19 going to tell me what to do. 00:09:21.23\00:09:22.20 I just started stealing food from the liquor store 00:09:22.21\00:09:25.54 to kind of get by. 00:09:25.57\00:09:26.71 But then this young man he would come along, 00:09:26.75\00:09:29.33 he offered me a sense of security, protection, 00:09:29.36\00:09:32.22 made sure we ate, took us down bought us food. 00:09:32.26\00:09:35.70 There was just a tie that developed there. 00:09:35.73\00:09:38.57 I started to, is years went by, realize he is 00:09:38.60\00:09:41.40 the only one who is here. 00:09:41.44\00:09:42.41 After everyone's left, people came and go, 00:09:42.42\00:09:44.18 people you know hurt you, they've abused you, 00:09:44.21\00:09:45.94 rape you, yet he's here still. 00:09:45.97\00:09:47.21 I was so afraid of being rejected and abandoned 00:09:47.24\00:09:50.30 again that I pretty much obsessively did everything 00:09:50.33\00:09:52.80 I could to keep him in my life. 00:09:52.83\00:09:54.52 Because I didn't think I had enough to offer just 00:09:54.55\00:09:57.57 as a person as the human, one of the ways I thought 00:09:57.60\00:10:00.58 I could make him depend on me was financially. 00:10:00.62\00:10:03.70 And so I mean as young as fifteen I was giving him all the 00:10:03.74\00:10:06.96 money I was making. 00:10:07.00\00:10:07.97 From my jobs, by seventeen, I was stealing 00:10:08.00\00:10:11.36 money from the register work, to fully support him, 00:10:11.40\00:10:13.94 to put him up in apartment and 00:10:13.98\00:10:15.00 everything by seventeen. 00:10:15.04\00:10:16.14 And then left home and by nineteen I was $35,000 00:10:16.18\00:10:19.17 dollars in debt, and on the brink of bankruptcy. 00:10:19.20\00:10:22.10 I just want to say to people because we are not 00:10:22.13\00:10:24.99 seeing the whole picture, because you 00:10:25.03\00:10:26.42 stayed in school. 00:10:26.46\00:10:27.80 I stayed in school during this whole time. 00:10:27.84\00:10:29.58 Shut up, how did you do that, because I'm thinking 00:10:29.62\00:10:32.69 out of all this chaos, and mom being gone, whatever 00:10:32.73\00:10:35.19 you stayed in school probably kept your brother in 00:10:35.23\00:10:37.66 school, all that kind of normal thing. 00:10:37.69\00:10:40.48 You were a good student. 00:10:40.51\00:10:42.11 You know, it's almost how could I've left school, 00:10:42.15\00:10:45.72 because there was a time were I wasn't going to 00:10:45.76\00:10:49.30 school, and my grades start getting really bad, 00:10:49.33\00:10:51.69 but I ended up in a group home when 00:10:51.73\00:10:54.67 I was just turned seventeen. 00:10:54.70\00:10:56.80 It was through that experience, in meeting some of 00:10:56.83\00:11:00.59 the counselors, that had grown up in the same 00:11:00.62\00:11:02.45 neighborhood as I had, that they were going to school. 00:11:02.48\00:11:04.71 And I thought that's my only way out, it's only why 00:11:04.74\00:11:06.87 we get out of the situation, it's only when I get out 00:11:06.90\00:11:09.22 of my neighborhood, it's only when going to break 00:11:09.26\00:11:11.54 some of these cycles. 00:11:11.58\00:11:12.55 I didn't have all the tools, but I knew that was the 00:11:12.58\00:11:14.82 one thing I got to stick to. 00:11:14.85\00:11:15.88 I've got a get out of this - yeah! 00:11:15.91\00:11:17.00 Somebody's got to rescue me. 00:11:17.03\00:11:18.42 Yeah, and even later as just as the circumstances 00:11:18.46\00:11:21.66 in my life got more out of control, the only thing 00:11:21.69\00:11:24.86 I had was coming home, ironically reading 00:11:24.90\00:11:27.81 my psychology books. 00:11:27.85\00:11:28.96 You know like I wasn't seeing myself in any of it 00:11:29.00\00:11:32.21 but oh, I was studying. 00:11:32.24\00:11:34.02 I saw myself on every page, when I went back to 00:11:34.05\00:11:36.42 school either think like I'm schizophrenic. 00:11:36.46\00:11:38.79 I think oh man! 00:11:38.82\00:11:40.15 Yeah, and later a start to become more self-aware. 00:11:40.19\00:11:43.62 But first off, it was interesting, studying the human 00:11:43.65\00:11:47.05 mind, have no self-awareness, no understanding 00:11:47.08\00:11:50.54 of your own choices. 00:11:50.57\00:11:51.54 So, what ended up happening - I want to interrupt, 00:11:51.55\00:11:55.11 but I love you. 00:11:55.15\00:11:56.12 Oh I love you too! 00:11:56.13\00:11:57.10 So a boy at school, knew my financial situation and 00:11:57.11\00:12:03.62 suggested that I become a stripper. 00:12:03.65\00:12:05.89 At first I thought no way I'd set foot 00:12:05.92\00:12:08.12 in a strip club. 00:12:08.16\00:12:09.13 It just seemed like something I wouldn't do. 00:12:09.14\00:12:10.55 This financial thing started spinning out of control, 00:12:10.58\00:12:14.20 and it became more and more like an option. 00:12:14.23\00:12:16.57 I took the idea to a psychology professor that 00:12:16.60\00:12:18.91 I really respected. 00:12:18.94\00:12:19.91 And I was hoping he would say to me no you have got 00:12:19.93\00:12:22.59 a career in front of you, you're worth more than that, 00:12:22.62\00:12:25.25 that's not a good idea. 00:12:25.28\00:12:26.62 Instead, he said well, you don't have 00:12:26.65\00:12:28.17 put on your resume. 00:12:28.20\00:12:29.17 So, he spoke a curse into your life at that moment. 00:12:29.18\00:12:32.70 And I still made the choice to go and audition. 00:12:32.74\00:12:36.22 But that played a big part in it. 00:12:36.26\00:12:38.91 There was no other voice in my life, 00:12:38.95\00:12:41.61 there was no one telling 00:12:41.65\00:12:42.62 me you're worth more, your valuable. 00:12:42.63\00:12:45.33 You know, whatever and so I ended up- 00:12:45.37\00:12:48.20 I just want to break in and say if you just heard that and 00:12:48.24\00:12:51.24 if you are a man in the church please speak into 00:12:51.27\00:12:54.72 peoples lives and let them know that they are valuable. 00:12:54.76\00:12:57.57 And it don't mean to interrupt you, but that is 00:12:57.60\00:12:59.33 such a burden in my heart. 00:12:59.36\00:13:00.70 Just to know that I don't think that we realize 00:13:00.74\00:13:03.91 that there are people that are looking at us and 00:13:03.94\00:13:07.50 saying, Please somebody tell me that I am of worth. 00:13:07.54\00:13:11.26 And not that I'm cute or pretty, or intelligent, 00:13:11.30\00:13:14.99 just in the eyes of God, I have worth. 00:13:15.02\00:13:17.77 Inherent worth, it doesn't have to do with the outside. 00:13:17.80\00:13:21.03 Go ahead, I'm sorry. 00:13:21.07\00:13:22.49 That's a great point. 00:13:22.53\00:13:23.88 I just want to weep when you say that because. 00:13:23.92\00:13:27.40 I wish there was somebody in your life at that time, 00:13:27.43\00:13:29.00 that said, are you kidding me. 00:13:29.03\00:13:30.33 Look at you, you're fabulous and stand up and you 00:13:30.36\00:13:33.67 have such a future. 00:13:33.71\00:13:35.18 And instead you took the audition. 00:13:35.21\00:13:37.69 When I start working at first like everybody else, 00:13:37.72\00:13:40.27 I thought I'll only do this for a couple months 00:13:40.30\00:13:42.82 to control my finances. 00:13:42.85\00:13:44.11 Every dancer I've ever worked with said that. 00:13:44.15\00:13:46.22 Everybody, I use to tell the girls, you'll save money, 00:13:46.26\00:13:48.46 I can open a business hopefully. 00:13:48.50\00:13:50.13 And then sure enough, the psychology professor 00:13:50.16\00:13:55.03 comes into the club a couple months later- with his addiction 00:13:55.07\00:13:57.90 He wanted you there. 00:13:57.94\00:13:59.14 That was a really low moment for me, because he kind of 00:13:59.17\00:14:04.63 encompassed everything I hoped was possible that 00:14:04.67\00:14:07.53 there would be upstanding men, that had good careers 00:14:07.57\00:14:10.57 and lived with a white picket fence or something. 00:14:10.61\00:14:12.96 That's what I had saw in him, and it's gone now. 00:14:12.99\00:14:15.31 It was really devastating. 00:14:15.34\00:14:18.73 I ended up getting totally caught up in the lifestyle. 00:14:18.77\00:14:22.81 The one thing that I didn't do is use, because I had 00:14:22.84\00:14:26.85 seen my mother go through that. 00:14:26.89\00:14:28.96 Let me just say for when I first heard that when you 00:14:28.99\00:14:32.91 said, the only thing I didn't do I wasn't a drug addict. 00:14:32.95\00:14:36.83 And I'm thinking, I don't know how you survived. 00:14:36.87\00:14:39.78 The only way I could survive that lifestyle is I took 00:14:39.82\00:14:42.38 myself out every single day. 00:14:42.42\00:14:43.99 I didn't have to do it in my right mind, and 00:14:44.02\00:14:49.17 if I started to come down. 00:14:49.21\00:14:50.33 I would want to jump in front of a train. 00:14:50.37\00:14:52.90 So, it's like gimme some heroine, give me some drugs 00:14:52.93\00:14:55.60 because I don't want to sit through this life without 00:14:55.63\00:14:58.26 that, I can't do that. 00:14:58.30\00:14:59.64 And so I don't know how you deal with that much 00:14:59.68\00:15:02.52 pain, that much dysfunction without taking yourself 00:15:02.56\00:15:05.37 out with some chemicals. 00:15:05.41\00:15:06.99 The dissociation, I perfected that skill I'm telling you. 00:15:07.02\00:15:11.33 I've had to un-perfect it. 00:15:11.37\00:15:14.46 So that I can be back in touch with reality. 00:15:14.50\00:15:16.55 I mean I could just snap. 00:15:16.59\00:15:18.83 Just a physical sensation to un-feel almost like when you 00:15:18.86\00:15:22.49 are on painkillers, something like that. 00:15:22.53\00:15:23.73 You feel the physical sensation of the numbing, 00:15:23.76\00:15:27.77 you can just oooh. 00:15:27.81\00:15:29.26 And I would be dancing at be studying for tests in my 00:15:29.30\00:15:32.66 mind for school the next day. 00:15:32.70\00:15:34.77 Because you stayed in college. 00:15:34.81\00:15:36.81 Yes I did, I stayed in school that's one thing that I did do. 00:15:36.85\00:15:39.29 and just that relationship, the dynamics of the 00:15:39.32\00:15:42.65 relationship that I was doing everything 00:15:42.68\00:15:45.33 I could to maintain. 00:15:45.36\00:15:46.56 I got worse physically abusive, emotionally abusive. 00:15:46.59\00:15:50.00 And he as with other women, he got another girl pregnant. 00:15:50.04\00:15:52.87 People who watch your show probably don't watch the 00:15:52.90\00:15:55.85 Jerry Springer show. 00:15:55.89\00:15:56.86 They might, but my life was like an episode of the 00:15:56.88\00:15:59.60 Jerry Springer show. 00:15:59.63\00:16:00.74 You could've been on that show - yeah! 00:16:00.77\00:16:02.10 I could have mailed him 25 episodes for that show. 00:16:02.14\00:16:05.35 I was a supporting him, and the baby's Mama. 00:16:05.39\00:16:07.30 One of the guys that I was with was on that show. 00:16:07.34\00:16:09.94 Oh really! 00:16:09.98\00:16:10.95 So to me understand what you are saying that that 00:16:10.99\00:16:13.38 lifestyle that is kind of normal in our lifestyle. 00:16:13.42\00:16:16.77 And it's really tough to look at how normal people 00:16:16.81\00:16:19.78 look at the world, because that's how you live. 00:16:19.81\00:16:22.71 I used to come home from work and watch it because it 00:16:22.74\00:16:25.35 made me feel more normal. 00:16:25.38\00:16:26.83 Just a little - just a little. 00:16:26.86\00:16:28.83 I'm more normal see I'm not the only one out there that 00:16:28.87\00:16:30.58 are dealing with is so that's enough. 00:16:30.61\00:16:33.92 Isn't that funny! I made is sad funny, but it's funny 00:16:33.96\00:16:36.52 because it's so out there. 00:16:36.56\00:16:37.54 You know you're going to get into how you 00:16:37.57\00:16:40.47 got out of that. 00:16:40.51\00:16:41.48 So basically what happened is I met a girl - this 00:16:41.49\00:16:44.74 is my favorite part - it is my favorite part too. 00:16:44.78\00:16:48.00 So, I met a girl in a ballet class at school. 00:16:48.03\00:16:51.19 Shut up, when you said that the first time, I'm 00:16:51.23\00:16:54.11 thinking wait, dancing, stripping, living that 00:16:54.14\00:16:56.99 lifestyle and taking ballet. 00:16:57.02\00:16:58.43 And my mind just froze, I even had to stop you when 00:16:58.47\00:17:02.40 we were doing the interview, 00:17:02.44\00:17:03.41 you were in a ballet class? 00:17:03.42\00:17:05.14 If that's how the enemy twists things, because 00:17:05.17\00:17:07.29 I was actually always very passionate about dance, 00:17:07.32\00:17:09.41 which made it easier to rationalize dancing. 00:17:09.44\00:17:11.62 Stripping, because I'm just like-dancing. 00:17:11.66\00:17:13.77 If they want to make of it, how you have all your 00:17:13.81\00:17:16.17 little rationalizations, - but this is 00:17:16.21\00:17:18.25 an art form for me. 00:17:18.29\00:17:19.39 That's exactly, but you know, ballet, jazz, African dance. 00:17:19.43\00:17:22.87 I always loved it, I danced throughout my life. 00:17:22.90\00:17:25.64 Taking this ballet class, I met this girl, just 00:17:25.67\00:17:29.80 beautiful full of life, just glowing, funny. 00:17:29.84\00:17:33.94 For some reason I was honest with her about the 00:17:33.97\00:17:37.92 circumstances in my life. 00:17:37.96\00:17:38.95 What I did for living, which I normally didn't. 00:17:38.99\00:17:42.06 I found out that she was a Christian - then you 00:17:42.10\00:17:44.83 thought oh man, I can't believe I've done that. 00:17:44.86\00:17:47.00 Oh, she's never going to to talk to me again. 00:17:47.04\00:17:48.85 Next time I showed up a class I was thinking, 00:17:48.88\00:17:50.66 oh my gosh it's okay. 00:17:50.69\00:17:52.18 I'll understand it if she doesn't 00:17:52.22\00:17:53.39 say anything to me. 00:17:53.42\00:17:54.58 And she was just like, hey Harmony how are you? 00:17:54.62\00:17:57.62 And just loved on me and I was so surprised 00:17:57.66\00:18:00.59 because obviously I wasn't raised in the church. 00:18:00.63\00:18:03.78 All I knew about God, is if there was a God, 00:18:03.82\00:18:06.93 and I wasn't convinced that there was, 00:18:06.97\00:18:08.41 He didn't like people like me. 00:18:08.44\00:18:10.16 Because I had been told if you don't believe it 00:18:10.20\00:18:12.66 then you're going to hell. 00:18:12.70\00:18:13.67 You know when you said that, I just want to weep 00:18:13.68\00:18:15.87 because I know that God likes people like us. 00:18:15.90\00:18:18.44 You know what I want to weep because most of the 00:18:18.48\00:18:20.99 world has some how got that message. 00:18:21.02\00:18:22.76 That He doesn't like people like us. 00:18:22.79\00:18:24.46 And I remember one time, in prayer, as saying God, 00:18:24.49\00:18:26.65 who do you like? And who don't You like? 00:18:26.69\00:18:28.68 He said put a mirror under their nose, 00:18:28.71\00:18:30.67 if it steams up I like them. 00:18:30.70\00:18:32.15 I'm like okay. 00:18:32.18\00:18:34.91 That's pretty much it, go ahead. 00:18:34.94\00:18:37.34 I didn't mean to interrupt, you know there's a part 00:18:37.38\00:18:40.22 of me that when I hear that, I just want to run and 00:18:40.25\00:18:43.06 hold somebody and say somebody lied to you, 00:18:43.09\00:18:45.38 God likes you, He loves you, 00:18:45.42\00:18:46.94 He can't do anything else! 00:18:46.97\00:18:48.43 That's huge, that's like the biggest 00:18:48.46\00:18:50.82 revelation to get ever. 00:18:50.85\00:18:52.42 And so that's, actually through this friendship with 00:18:52.46\00:18:55.01 the girl I met in ballet class. 00:18:55.05\00:18:57.34 That is the revelation I started to have, 00:18:57.37\00:18:59.03 because I saw that she liked me and she loved me. 00:18:59.06\00:19:01.29 And she pretty much was the hands and feet, 00:19:01.32\00:19:03.00 and through her I experience the love of God. 00:19:03.04\00:19:04.69 I started realizing, all my gosh, maybe. 00:19:04.72\00:19:07.05 Tell them about her inviting you to church and you 00:19:07.08\00:19:10.38 wouldn't go there. 00:19:10.42\00:19:11.48 That's right! I didn't go there, I didn't want to go. 00:19:11.51\00:19:12.77 I'm not ready to go, I wasn't ready for that. 00:19:12.81\00:19:14.57 But when I did go to church, she invited me to coffee. 00:19:14.60\00:19:17.06 Yeah, she didn't bat an eyelash. 00:19:17.10\00:19:20.50 How cool is that-Yeah, I loved it. 00:19:20.53\00:19:21.83 You can't come in the building that's all right, 00:19:21.86\00:19:23.57 let's go for a walk. 00:19:23.60\00:19:24.61 Right exactly! 00:19:24.65\00:19:25.62 Let's go bowling, let's go have coffee. 00:19:25.63\00:19:26.97 It spoke volumes to me because I thought, 00:19:27.00\00:19:28.52 you know what, I'm not just some project 00:19:28.56\00:19:30.04 on her check list. 00:19:30.08\00:19:31.05 To get brownie points for getting people to come 00:19:31.06\00:19:35.18 to church with her. 00:19:35.21\00:19:36.18 That she actually seemed like she was - 00:19:36.19\00:19:38.30 Can I just say again? 00:19:38.33\00:19:39.66 Do you realize what she just said? 00:19:39.70\00:19:41.26 If you have ears, the Bible says if you have ears 00:19:41.29\00:19:44.28 hear what the Spirit says. 00:19:44.32\00:19:45.88 A lot of times people look at us, as Christians 00:19:45.91\00:19:49.36 as we go to love on them. 00:19:49.40\00:19:50.97 If it's not authentic, if you're truly not into what 00:19:51.00\00:19:54.02 you're doing as far as that person is concerned. 00:19:54.05\00:19:56.57 It used just about numbers, the world is just saying 00:19:56.61\00:19:59.09 don't play me, don't play me. 00:19:59.13\00:20:01.09 If it's just about numbers to you, 00:20:01.13\00:20:03.19 go find someone else. 00:20:03.22\00:20:05.81 But if you truly are interested in me, 00:20:05.84\00:20:08.15 I truly need help. 00:20:08.19\00:20:09.94 I truly need, so it is just like we know 00:20:09.97\00:20:15.29 even a kid knows. 00:20:15.32\00:20:16.56 You know, you can sense when someone is genuine. 00:20:16.60\00:20:18.45 That's what I saw in her. 00:20:18.49\00:20:20.48 So I eventually ended up taking her up on an 00:20:20.51\00:20:23.48 offer to go to church. 00:20:23.51\00:20:24.48 Because I saw something in her life that was missing. 00:20:24.50\00:20:27.60 And I thought all right I'm going to go. 00:20:27.63\00:20:29.58 And I walked in, and I thought I'm home. 00:20:29.61\00:20:31.49 Like I had never even about church home, whatever. 00:20:31.53\00:20:33.61 I'm like I'm home, and I'm telling you they couldn't 00:20:33.64\00:20:36.42 keep me out of that place. 00:20:36.46\00:20:37.55 Every time the doors were opened. 00:20:37.59\00:20:38.62 How cool is that - I was still in the strip club. 00:20:38.65\00:20:41.41 I go to church and then go straight to the club. 00:20:41.45\00:20:44.37 And people think that couldn't be authentic, then. 00:20:44.40\00:20:47.25 But I've met people smoking weed, smoking a joint, studying 00:20:47.28\00:20:50.48 the Bible, the ash of one of my friends, the ash falls on 00:20:50.51\00:20:53.67 the Bible and burns the page. 00:20:53.70\00:20:54.75 He get so freaked out, because all my goodness, 00:20:54.79\00:20:57.83 I just burned the Bible. 00:20:57.86\00:20:59.00 And I said what did you do and he said well, 00:20:59.04\00:21:00.26 I switched to a pipe. 00:21:00.30\00:21:02.32 How funny are you. 00:21:02.35\00:21:04.30 You know, and so God loves on us through those steps. 00:21:04.34\00:21:07.93 We think, how dare us mentioned the name of 00:21:07.97\00:21:11.32 God on our lips. 00:21:11.36\00:21:12.46 And God said, don't you put a stumbling block 00:21:12.50\00:21:15.36 in front of them. 00:21:15.39\00:21:16.36 It took the Holy Spirit this long to get her 00:21:16.38\00:21:18.02 in the building, this is the only time she has felt safe. 00:21:18.05\00:21:20.67 She will drop all that stuff, not because I demand 00:21:20.71\00:21:23.46 her to, but because she is responding to My love. 00:21:23.49\00:21:26.21 Right, it's the goodness of God that 00:21:26.25\00:21:28.31 leads people to repentance. 00:21:28.34\00:21:29.75 That is really what happened for me. 00:21:29.78\00:21:33.38 God did it transforming work in my heart, I began to 00:21:33.42\00:21:36.12 realize that I was valuable and that He loved me. 00:21:36.15\00:21:38.82 He created me with a plan and a purpose. 00:21:38.85\00:21:40.53 And as I started realizing those things, this is 00:21:40.56\00:21:43.05 over a span of time, but it became impossible to live 00:21:43.09\00:21:45.54 in a way that contradicted it. 00:21:45.57\00:21:46.94 I start with small steps. 00:21:46.98\00:21:48.22 I actually decided that I was going to save 00:21:48.25\00:21:50.12 myself for marriage before a quick dancing. 00:21:50.16\00:21:51.99 How funny is that! 00:21:52.03\00:21:55.63 All of heaven, how adorable is she. 00:21:55.66\00:22:00.38 So, that is where really started that journey. 00:22:00.42\00:22:05.27 I think a real defining moment for me was when I 00:22:05.30\00:22:10.12 went somewhere heard this man speak. 00:22:10.15\00:22:11.40 And he just shared his story very simple, five 00:22:11.43\00:22:14.37 minutes ten minutes maybe. 00:22:14.41\00:22:15.51 He had been homeless, he had been at drug addict on 00:22:15.54\00:22:18.74 the streets and he shared John 15:5, "I am the vine, 00:22:18.77\00:22:21.93 and you are the branches, if you remain in Me you'll 00:22:21.97\00:22:24.74 bear fruit, apart from me man can do nothing. " 00:22:24.77\00:22:27.19 It was so simple, but I thought, what if God can 00:22:27.23\00:22:29.91 love him than I think He can probably love me too. 00:22:29.95\00:22:32.60 If so then how do I do this abiding thing? 00:22:32.64\00:22:35.71 I've got to figure it out because I felt like that 00:22:35.74\00:22:38.43 withered branch apart from God. 00:22:38.47\00:22:40.53 I wasn't doing anything, my life wasn't bearing any fruit. 00:22:40.56\00:22:43.93 I felt like a withered dried-up branch that was 00:22:43.97\00:22:46.11 like spinning my wheels my whole life trying to 00:22:46.14\00:22:48.25 do things on my own, it wasn't working. 00:22:48.29\00:22:50.08 Look at the situation, I was in, you know. 00:22:50.11\00:22:52.79 But God was giving you the privilege by 00:22:52.83\00:22:55.47 saying abide in Me. 00:22:55.50\00:22:56.77 Literally, I will graft you into my family, 00:22:56.80\00:22:59.98 onto Me, you'll never be alone again. 00:23:00.02\00:23:02.34 All that for someone in your situation coming 00:23:02.37\00:23:06.55 out that is life. 00:23:06.58\00:23:07.72 It was your very life. 00:23:07.76\00:23:09.10 How cool is that. 00:23:09.13\00:23:10.75 Where I go ahead we're going to break, because 00:23:10.78\00:23:14.07 I want to come back. 00:23:14.11\00:23:15.08 I want to talk about not only did He save you 00:23:15.09\00:23:18.45 and pour everything into you. 00:23:18.48\00:23:19.74 And I feel the Holy Spirit in you from across the room. 00:23:19.78\00:23:22.72 I mean, I just love that about you. 00:23:22.76\00:23:24.73 But He stood to up in ministry right back to the 00:23:24.76\00:23:28.96 very darkness that you came out of to bring 00:23:28.99\00:23:31.60 people into the light. 00:23:31.64\00:23:32.84 That's right - how cool. 00:23:32.87\00:23:34.00 Stay with us, and if you haven't been blessed. 00:23:34.03\00:23:37.31 We need to come to your house to do an intervention. 00:23:37.34\00:23:40.45 I just want to say, stay tuned, there's more to come. 00:23:40.49\00:23:43.56 You are going to be blessed. 00:23:43.60\00:23:44.57 We are going to talk now about how God stands somebody up, 00:23:44.58\00:23:47.24 coming from that place. 00:23:47.28\00:23:49.85 How does He enable us to not only receive His love, 00:23:49.89\00:23:53.41 but to heal to the point where we have something 00:23:53.45\00:23:56.94 to say through the Holy Spirit. 00:23:56.97\00:23:58.38 I know who God is, I know the saving grace of Christ, 00:23:58.41\00:24:01.46 I know how much He loves us, 00:24:01.49\00:24:03.46 and I just got to tell someone. 00:24:03.50\00:24:05.95 It's just absolutely the best. 00:24:05.98\00:24:08.39 Stay with us 00:24:08.43\00:24:09.82