You know Shannon and I said goodbye and I was going 00:00:12.56\00:00:15.41 to let her go, but I have one more thing that 00:00:15.44\00:00:17.24 I want to so talk about. 00:00:17.28\00:00:18.43 I was amazed in my own recovery, my own sexual healing of 00:00:18.46\00:00:24.03 how God has changed me from how I felt so 00:00:24.06\00:00:27.07 not good enough. 00:00:27.10\00:00:28.97 So ugly and so ashamed of who I was, to I feel so amazing 00:00:29.00\00:00:32.64 as a woman of God standing in the presence of a Holy God 00:00:32.68\00:00:36.29 and just thinking I belong here. 00:00:36.32\00:00:38.03 I want you to talk about that, how was that for you and what 00:00:38.07\00:00:41.91 kind of things can people look forward to in recovery? 00:00:41.94\00:00:44.39 I remember before recovery, just how I was 00:00:44.42\00:00:48.40 such a driven person. 00:00:48.44\00:00:49.80 And I felt like I had to earn people's attention and 00:00:49.84\00:00:52.97 affection, and it was just all about on a treadmill. 00:00:53.01\00:00:56.20 Just trying to earn and perform, perform, perform 00:00:56.24\00:00:59.40 keep the mask in place and all that. 00:00:59.44\00:01:01.31 But I remember that when I was at home by myself, 00:01:01.35\00:01:04.01 or with my kids. 00:01:04.04\00:01:05.01 Just that deep sense of depression. 00:01:05.02\00:01:07.52 It was like this dark cloud around me all the time I 00:01:07.55\00:01:10.29 remember pulling the covers up over my head and praying Lord, 00:01:10.32\00:01:13.13 just let them sleep thirty more minutes or Lord just let them 00:01:13.17\00:01:15.94 watch one more Barney tape. 00:01:15.97\00:01:17.67 I just could not function. 00:01:17.70\00:01:19.33 I only went out of the house when I absolutely had to. 00:01:19.36\00:01:22.55 I didn't understand that this is depression that is caused 00:01:22.58\00:01:25.73 by unresolved stuff. 00:01:25.76\00:01:27.23 If you just resolve it, then the light will come on, 00:01:27.27\00:01:30.05 the joy will return. 00:01:30.08\00:01:32.05 I would never want to go back, there and you know people 00:01:32.08\00:01:34.67 sometimes ask me, aren't you afraid you will stumble and 00:01:34.71\00:01:37.27 fall back into that? 00:01:37.30\00:01:38.27 Well know I'm cautious, because the Bible says that we need 00:01:38.28\00:01:41.27 to be wise that way. 00:01:41.31\00:01:42.55 But I would never choose to go back there again. 00:01:42.58\00:01:45.20 I know I know how wonderful recovery feels, I know how it 00:01:45.23\00:01:49.02 feels to be sexually confident wife and to enjoy an intimate, 00:01:49.06\00:01:52.82 passionate, romantic encounter with my husband. 00:01:52.85\00:01:54.96 I would never go back to the cheap stuff. 00:01:55.00\00:01:56.77 It's like what you've had Filet Mignon, why would you eat 00:01:56.80\00:01:59.16 stale or week-old hamburger? 00:01:59.19\00:02:01.61 Because being present and knowing who you are and 00:02:01.65\00:02:04.23 enjoying who you are sensually, sexually and all that 00:02:04.26\00:02:06.81 kind of stuff is incredible. 00:02:06.84\00:02:07.97 And I am not even talking about just the intimate act. 00:02:08.00\00:02:10.51 I'm talking about the relationship and standing there 00:02:10.55\00:02:13.03 as a woman of God and confident in who you are. 00:02:13.06\00:02:15.16 And it's your relationship with everyone in your life with 00:02:15.20\00:02:18.32 your children, with your husband, with your friends, with 00:02:18.36\00:02:19.99 your church, with God. 00:02:20.02\00:02:21.08 Everything is transformed when you put it all, like you 00:02:21.11\00:02:24.63 said, when you put it out there on the table for healing. 00:02:24.74\00:02:26.50 I remember driving down this street one day. 00:02:26.54\00:02:28.95 I'm driving down the street saying God, you know, I just 00:02:28.99\00:02:31.93 turned 50, and I want to figure out, I want somebody to 00:02:31.97\00:02:34.88 look at me and tell me I'm cute or flirt with me. 00:02:34.91\00:02:37.53 I'm married, so God is like Hon, I can't do that for you. 00:02:37.56\00:02:41.29 As He is talking to me the Holy Spirit, I pass this sign 00:02:41.33\00:02:44.18 on the side of the road, and there is this incredibly good 00:02:44.22\00:02:46.93 looking insurance guy, where the make the eyes look like 00:02:46.96\00:02:49.64 they follow every car, and he is smiling. 00:02:49.68\00:02:51.84 I hear the Holy Spirit, and I look at the sign I hear the 00:02:51.87\00:02:54.66 Holy Spirit say that's the best I can do for you. 00:02:54.70\00:02:56.57 How is that! 00:02:56.61\00:02:57.99 So, I think even God laughs at our journey as we get 00:02:58.02\00:03:01.40 through all this kindof stuff and let it fall from us. 00:03:01.43\00:03:04.74 He kind of smiles with us and He loves us, but He's saying 00:03:04.78\00:03:07.63 He'll do it, because as you get done with this you are not 00:03:07.67\00:03:10.48 going to look for billboards to smile at you. 00:03:10.64\00:03:12.86 Or people to flirt with you which means nothing. 00:03:12.90\00:03:15.05 You are actually going to feel present and enjoy the intimate 00:03:15.08\00:03:19.89 relationships in your life. 00:03:19.92\00:03:20.96 Friends, church people, definitely husband's, children, 00:03:20.99\00:03:24.93 I think when we don't heal sexually we can't even really 00:03:24.97\00:03:28.87 love our children, as we should. 00:03:28.91\00:03:30.71 Right, it's like we get the attention and affection we 00:03:30.74\00:03:33.34 craved, but it's in a much healthier form. 00:03:33.38\00:03:35.73 It's something we can be proud of, not something that 00:03:35.76\00:03:38.06 we have to hide from other people. 00:03:38.09\00:03:39.36 When someone says, and again, I just think you for answering 00:03:39.40\00:03:42.90 that when somebody says to me that Cheri, you just look 00:03:42.94\00:03:46.80 like you love God, and there is so much joy and 00:03:46.83\00:03:50.42 I think you know. 00:03:50.45\00:03:51.42 It is that God has taken all the junk you know, 00:03:51.43\00:03:55.04 I have said before on another show if you have skeletons 00:03:55.08\00:03:57.58 in your closets, take them out, teach them to dance, 00:03:57.62\00:04:00.09 because they are not going to go away, 00:04:00.12\00:04:03.11 and it means everything. 00:04:03.15\00:04:04.40 It means that the twisted stuff that we learned before 00:04:04.44\00:04:07.50 we learn to speak sometimes for some of us and the junk 00:04:07.54\00:04:10.41 we have learned in relationships and how freely we kind 00:04:10.45\00:04:13.29 of give ourselves in relationships and friendships 00:04:13.32\00:04:17.04 and what ever to each other and how God. 00:04:17.08\00:04:20.01 Just so, I think it grieves God, because He knows, and Shannon, 00:04:20.04\00:04:24.43 you covered this in one of your books about the woman at the 00:04:24.46\00:04:28.81 well is God meets this women that has had five marriages, 00:04:28.85\00:04:31.98 she is not married to the person that she's lived with. 00:04:32.01\00:04:35.11 He never looked at her in shame. 00:04:35.14\00:04:36.64 He just said, you know what come and heal here, 00:04:36.68\00:04:40.95 drink from this water. 00:04:40.99\00:04:42.72 Let me teach you what it feels like to be a woman, 00:04:42.76\00:04:45.65 to be well to be healed. 00:04:45.68\00:04:47.30 And you will never go back to that, you'll never seek 00:04:47.33\00:04:50.11 this from someone else. 00:04:50.14\00:04:51.33 That hole in your heart that is so huge and so empty, 00:04:51.37\00:04:54.78 it will never be empty again and it will be filled with 00:04:54.81\00:04:57.97 the only person that can fill it and that is God Himself 00:04:58.01\00:05:01.13 through the Holy Spirit. 00:05:01.17\00:05:02.14 And I just beg you to give God a chance. 00:05:02.15\00:05:05.02 Let him come in, and even slowly. 00:05:05.05\00:05:08.30 If the only thing I can say to Him one day is you know what, 00:05:08.34\00:05:11.52 I'm kind of a mess. 00:05:11.56\00:05:12.57 You know all of heaven would be cracking up, 00:05:12.61\00:05:14.85 but He'll let you go there. 00:05:14.88\00:05:17.08 And I'm kind of a mess and I might need a little healing, 00:05:17.12\00:05:20.85 and He says okay, we'll start there, then as you are able to 00:05:20.88\00:05:24.58 share with Him more of the serious things. 00:05:24.61\00:05:26.61 Definitely the early molesting was hard for me to 00:05:26.65\00:05:28.68 bring to the table. 00:05:28.72\00:05:29.69 The significance of that, the young relationships that were 00:05:29.70\00:05:32.85 so young were hard, but at every single thing, 00:05:32.89\00:05:35.18 He said, you know what I'm glad you brought that up because 00:05:35.21\00:05:37.45 I have a feeling here that is some believable and so for 00:05:37.48\00:05:40.59 one I want to say trust God trust God in every single 00:05:40.62\00:05:43.66 shadow, in every single dark place in your life, every single 00:05:43.70\00:05:46.61 shameful thing you have in your life and I beg you, 00:05:46.64\00:05:50.35 just give Him a chance and remember, see you next time, 00:05:50.39\00:05:53.33 but always remember till then that God is crazy about you, 00:05:53.37\00:05:56.28 I'm crazy about you. 00:05:56.32\00:05:57.82 Stay true to your recovery bye, bye! 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