Hi! I'm C. A. Murray, welcome to season number three of 00:00:11.35\00:00:14.62 Celebrating Life in Recovery. 00:00:14.65\00:00:16.92 Now you have heard them talk about reality television, 00:00:16.95\00:00:20.14 well this is real life television. 00:00:20.17\00:00:22.14 This is television raw, this is television as it is 00:00:22.17\00:00:26.23 lived, this is life changing television. 00:00:26.26\00:00:29.35 Stay by, stay with us! 00:00:29.38\00:00:30.92 Season three of Celebrating Life in Recovery is 00:00:30.95\00:00:34.05 ready to come to you! 00:00:34.08\00:00:35.99 Welcome back! First of all I have to say this, because I 00:01:03.65\00:01:08.00 never get to say this to anybody. 00:01:08.03\00:01:09.03 Does it seem cheesy when you do that open? 00:01:09.06\00:01:11.48 Because it does to me sometimes, because I do an open 00:01:11.51\00:01:14.38 it does seem a little bit dry. 00:01:14.41\00:01:15.84 Now talking about cheesy, I need to say something to you 00:01:15.87\00:01:17.92 before you get rolling because it is hard to believe we 00:01:17.95\00:01:21.07 are in our 3rd season. 00:01:21.10\00:01:22.07 I know - that we've gone this far this fast. 00:01:22.10\00:01:24.36 It's amazing it's been an amazing journey, the 00:01:24.39\00:01:26.63 feedback absolutely is incredible. 00:01:26.66\00:01:29.03 Yeah but I want to thank you for being transparent, 00:01:29.06\00:01:32.18 you know and for leading us through this. 00:01:32.21\00:01:35.47 It's a whole new kind of a thing for us and we tape 00:01:35.50\00:01:39.78 bunches of shows together - you know I only have 2 00:01:39.81\00:01:41.92 brain cells so I can't be anything but, do you know that? 00:01:41.95\00:01:44.43 But what is incredible about this whole experience is 00:01:44.46\00:01:47.93 because I have written three books, and they kind of deal 00:01:47.96\00:01:50.21 with a lot of this subject matter and I never go back to 00:01:50.24\00:01:51.96 them because it's kind of tough re-reading lives that have 00:01:51.99\00:01:55.46 been torn apart and put back together. 00:01:55.49\00:01:57.88 And we relive this through you each time, and after 2 00:01:57.91\00:02:01.95 weeks of doing show after show after show 00:02:01.98\00:02:03.60 the crew is like whoa. 00:02:03.63\00:02:05.45 It takes up so much oxygen that you need to regroup and 00:02:05.48\00:02:09.64 just thank you for having the strength to re-visit your own 00:02:09.67\00:02:13.51 past, and your own road to recovery, and then 00:02:13.54\00:02:16.55 taking us on that journey. 00:02:16.58\00:02:17.84 Because it has been a fantastic journey and we have had 00:02:17.87\00:02:20.72 2 excellent seasons and we haven't seen nothing yet 00:02:20.75\00:02:24.70 really, we really haven't seen anything yet because 00:02:24.73\00:02:26.96 I have no idea. 00:02:26.99\00:02:27.99 First of all I want to talk about why chose the book I 00:02:28.02\00:02:30.84 chose this season, every season we've had a book. 00:02:30.87\00:02:32.97 Steps to Christ, the Coming of the Comforter, with 00:02:33.00\00:02:36.29 the Holy Spirit and this season I've got a book called 00:02:36.32\00:02:38.32 Exalting His Word. 00:02:38.35\00:02:39.43 The reason I got this with my friend Shelly Quinn is because, 00:02:39.46\00:02:41.95 I realize that sometimes in recovery we step into recovery 00:02:41.98\00:02:45.46 and we think we know what 00:02:45.49\00:02:47.45 our issues are, we know what our junk is, and 00:02:47.48\00:02:49.41 I think that unless really get into the Word of God and see 00:02:49.44\00:02:52.97 God's take on who we are that our heart is still deceiving us. 00:02:53.00\00:02:56.81 We're still rationalizing stuff, I can pretty much 00:02:56.84\00:02:59.67 still do this, I can lie a bit, I can do this a bit, 00:02:59.70\00:03:02.36 and God is saying, you know what, get into the Word. 00:03:02.39\00:03:04.46 You literally will see what I mean by recovery and when 00:03:04.49\00:03:08.43 He shows us, that I'm like, really! 00:03:08.46\00:03:10.71 So not even exaggerating, and God says, 00:03:10.74\00:03:13.46 no exaggerating is actually lying. 00:03:13.49\00:03:15.23 I'm like, but God it is more fun, and He is just saying 00:03:15.26\00:03:19.66 you know what in this part of your recovery, as you 00:03:19.69\00:03:21.72 journey into that, is that I'm getting into the Word of 00:03:21.75\00:03:25.17 God, not because I am going to give you more brownie points 00:03:25.20\00:03:27.42 of what you do, not because I'm somehow thinking this is 00:03:27.45\00:03:30.47 what you do because I said so. 00:03:30.50\00:03:32.12 He said it literally will reflect your damage and you 00:03:32.15\00:03:35.23 will come to Me more honestly. 00:03:35.26\00:03:36.58 And so this season is about coming to God in a more 00:03:36.61\00:03:39.73 honest way - yeah, yeah I really like that. 00:03:39.76\00:03:41.69 You know the text that comes to mind is 00:03:41.72\00:03:43.26 Jeremiah 17:9, I'll take a second to read it. 00:03:43.29\00:03:45.67 "The heart is deceitful above all things and 00:03:45.70\00:03:47.36 desperately wicked, who can know it?" 00:03:47.39\00:03:49.33 You know when you get a glimpse of that God just says 00:03:49.36\00:03:52.19 let me to show you a little bit. 00:03:52.22\00:03:53.85 And I'm just thinking man, man is that me? 00:03:53.88\00:03:55.79 And He is like absolutely - yeah - and you are thinking 00:03:55.82\00:03:58.63 absolutely are you kidding me? 00:03:58.66\00:04:00.02 He kisses you on the face because He doesn't want you to 00:04:00.05\00:04:01.85 feel bad - right - but He says don't get too carried 00:04:01.88\00:04:04.83 away with yourself because you can deceive yourself and 00:04:04.86\00:04:09.20 not even know it. 00:04:09.23\00:04:10.22 We had a professor in college who used to say this all 00:04:10.25\00:04:12.35 the time, and I didn't get it then, I understand it now. 00:04:12.38\00:04:14.56 He would say that as bad as that is to breathe 00:04:14.59\00:04:18.83 secondhand smoke, it is worse to blow smoke up your own nose. 00:04:18.86\00:04:22.75 And he would say that all the time and I would think 00:04:22.78\00:04:25.27 what is this guy talking about? 00:04:25.30\00:04:26.27 I love that - but it is a good statement as bad as it 00:04:26.28\00:04:28.84 breathe other's smoke, to play games with your own 00:04:28.87\00:04:33.10 mind, to poison yourself, you have got to be real. 00:04:33.13\00:04:35.88 Because the Lord knows you, and you have said this over 00:04:35.91\00:04:38.10 and over, and God knows your junk so why play games with 00:04:38.13\00:04:40.07 your own head because God knows. 00:04:40.10\00:04:41.45 Okay so saying that, and you said in a cheesy tease, 00:04:41.48\00:04:44.98 that you said how raw this show was. 00:04:45.01\00:04:48.30 So somebody called and said you should interview so and 00:04:48.33\00:04:52.22 so and I said okay. 00:04:52.25\00:04:53.79 All of a sudden I realize, so and so is a Strip Club Owner. 00:04:53.82\00:04:57.20 Well with my background, and a sister still locked in 00:04:57.23\00:04:59.86 that lifestyle, she just ended up in ICU after a 3rd 00:04:59.89\00:05:03.83 DUI and all that kind of stuff. 00:05:03.86\00:05:05.43 And she is in the business and I am looking at this 00:05:05.46\00:05:07.84 Strip Club owner, and I do not want to interview him. 00:05:07.87\00:05:09.77 All of a sudden I am realizing I'm not feeling good about this. 00:05:09.80\00:05:13.40 I literally could not get beyond it and when I came in 00:05:13.43\00:05:17.02 and I went to meet him here at the studio. 00:05:17.05\00:05:19.64 Hi my name is Cheri and I'm going to shake his hand, 00:05:19.67\00:05:22.52 literally in a spiritual sense I felt my hands around 00:05:22.55\00:05:25.26 his throat and wanted to say to you realize the damage 00:05:25.29\00:05:28.04 you have done, are you truly in recovery because if 00:05:28.07\00:05:30.86 you're not don't play me. 00:05:30.89\00:05:32.40 I was just so, and people around me, you guys have not 00:05:32.43\00:05:35.49 seen me angry and I am literally feeling that. 00:05:35.52\00:05:38.65 So J. D. comes, and he's like let's pray, so we are praying 00:05:38.68\00:05:43.14 and I was able, through the prayers of my friends in the 00:05:43.17\00:05:48.20 studio and through my own relationship with God is to 00:05:48.23\00:05:51.47 allow God to process that with me and this owner, but He did it 00:05:51.50\00:05:55.89 on the show with the cameras on, and both of us really 00:05:55.92\00:06:00.15 stepped into our healing in different way. 00:06:00.19\00:06:02.63 So I am going, I'm going to show you some of the 00:06:02.66\00:06:05.04 shows for this season. 00:06:05.07\00:06:06.69 So Michael Ehm is a Strip Club owner, so we are 00:06:06.72\00:06:09.63 going to talk about him. 00:06:09.66\00:06:10.63 Lemuel Vega, who had been in prison, was just basically 00:06:10.64\00:06:16.76 a bad guy and really has been through some stuff and now 00:06:16.79\00:06:19.98 he is just doing an amazing thing. 00:06:20.01\00:06:21.35 The 3rd person I want to show on this particular clip 00:06:21.38\00:06:24.78 is Mark and Luke, and I want to see these clips because 00:06:24.81\00:06:31.44 the show is very raw and what we did this season, 00:06:31.47\00:06:33.83 through the power of God was absolutely, it surprised me 00:06:33.86\00:06:37.84 how much we covered in how honestly it was covered. 00:06:37.87\00:06:41.34 Alright! 00:06:41.37\00:06:42.84 You know I felt like hey I could make this work. 00:06:44.95\00:06:46.69 So then one day my mother was in the grocery store, and 00:06:46.72\00:06:52.12 she always had a put back the grocery she couldn't 00:06:52.15\00:06:54.96 really afford, like the extra things I mean. 00:06:54.99\00:06:56.85 She would get the bread and the things that she needed, 00:06:56.88\00:06:58.98 the necessities and if there was enough money left she 00:06:59.01\00:07:00.41 would by these few things. 00:07:00.44\00:07:01.58 One day I was able to give my mother some money and said 00:07:01.61\00:07:04.35 here mom buy it all. 00:07:04.38\00:07:06.28 And she said where did you get the money son? 00:07:06.31\00:07:08.48 I said mom I worked for it, and at that young age in my 00:07:08.51\00:07:11.97 life I thought that if I could have enough money, money 00:07:12.00\00:07:15.01 would take care of the problems for the car, the house. 00:07:15.04\00:07:17.68 Money would fix life's problems and you know what by the 00:07:17.71\00:07:21.26 time I was 18 years old I had thousands of dollars. 00:07:21.29\00:07:23.68 And my dad was right, he always said son if you don't 00:07:23.71\00:07:26.62 straighten up he said your going to be in prison by the 00:07:26.65\00:07:29.26 time you are 18 years old. 00:07:29.29\00:07:30.47 I had to cry at 18 years old, I had to cry and 00:07:30.50\00:07:33.73 look through that little window and my dad was sitting 00:07:33.76\00:07:36.28 on the other side. 00:07:36.31\00:07:37.28 I said daddy you are right, and I said I'm sorry. 00:07:37.29\00:07:40.07 So through all that, our lives are so messed up, unmanageable 00:07:40.10\00:07:44.46 It's pretty dark, very dark and I survive in this thing 00:07:44.49\00:07:48.69 because I'm going through the money because I'm always 00:07:48.72\00:07:50.11 told what you could you do with your days off? 00:07:50.14\00:07:52.00 I can fly here - and I literally watched as a girl killed herself 00:07:52.03\00:07:55.30 and the club owner says who's going to fill her shift? 00:07:55.33\00:07:58.12 Yeah - and I just wanted to stop and say, does anybody 00:07:58.15\00:08:01.36 care that she just killed herself? 00:08:01.39\00:08:02.97 I was just so hurt and it was all about who is going to 00:08:03.00\00:08:06.35 fill her shift because we need to have this many girls 00:08:06.38\00:08:08.12 on at this shift - Yeah! 00:08:08.15\00:08:09.22 Yeah and you had to stick to that amount girls 00:08:09.25\00:08:11.06 and if you go lower you go higher, you go too high the 00:08:11.09\00:08:14.03 girls complain, and if they don't have enough, 00:08:14.06\00:08:15.98 and the owners complain. 00:08:16.01\00:08:16.98 And I really appreciate that too, I have had girls that 00:08:17.00\00:08:20.18 have died in my club too. 00:08:20.21\00:08:21.72 From overdoses, or people that have stalked them and 00:08:21.75\00:08:24.74 killed them, from boyfriends that have assassinated them. 00:08:24.77\00:08:26.72 It really grieved my heart and I think that through 00:08:26.75\00:08:30.97 death the Lord used that because as I got involved with 00:08:31.00\00:08:34.45 these clubs, and worked in them. 00:08:34.48\00:08:36.38 Things got darker for me and I started participating in 00:08:36.41\00:08:40.89 very illicit type sex - right. 00:08:40.92\00:08:45.47 And I remember opening the door of the truck and I did 00:08:45.50\00:08:48.83 want to look back because I knew it was going to be bad 00:08:48.86\00:08:50.83 because we had moved. 00:08:50.86\00:08:52.12 And I turned by head and the car had been pushed up 00:08:52.15\00:08:54.94 beside us the roof was tore off on the driver's side and was 00:08:54.97\00:08:59.10 sticking up in the air. 00:08:59.13\00:09:00.16 I walked back there, picked up the liner, the headliner 00:09:00.19\00:09:04.72 of the car and the 3 girls were in there. 00:09:04.75\00:09:08.21 You can see them - yes and nobody was moving. 00:09:08.24\00:09:12.79 Then they asked is anyone hurt and I stopped for a 00:09:12.82\00:09:16.33 second and thought, you know what I haven't even seen 00:09:16.36\00:09:18.56 the car were my wife and mom were riding in. 00:09:18.59\00:09:21.38 I thought I don't know so, and she said that was fine 00:09:21.41\00:09:25.84 emergency crews are on their way. 00:09:25.87\00:09:27.15 So I hung up and to get to the U-Haul's since there was 00:09:27.18\00:09:30.65 a big pile up behind as I had to crawl under the semi 00:09:30.68\00:09:33.33 trailer that we been hit into. 00:09:33.36\00:09:34.75 When I got on their side I saw the car and it didn't 00:09:34.78\00:09:40.20 really look like a car I mean it was just so destroyed. 00:09:40.23\00:09:42.83 Oh wow powerful! You know I had an opportunity to 00:09:46.54\00:09:49.56 interview Mike Ehm, he was here some months ago and I 00:09:49.59\00:09:52.93 caught that interview - I bet you were nicer to him? 00:09:52.96\00:09:55.63 Yeah I was - I was not very nice at first - but what 00:09:55.66\00:10:00.50 you approached it from an entirely different place. 00:10:00.53\00:10:02.34 We were just trying to get his story out because 00:10:02.37\00:10:04.52 it is a powerful story. 00:10:04.55\00:10:05.56 But you, again Celebrating Life in Recovery, you dealt more 00:10:05.59\00:10:09.06 with the damage of being in that lifestyle, the damage 00:10:09.09\00:10:12.27 inflicted on yourself, and the damage you inflicted on others. 00:10:12.30\00:10:14.79 Where we talked more specifically about the healing 00:10:14.82\00:10:17.45 in the history, and you dealt with the nuts and bolts of 00:10:17.48\00:10:21.05 what that stuff does to people. 00:10:21.08\00:10:22.60 It was huge - powerful stuff - and what was so amazing 00:10:22.63\00:10:25.30 to me, about presenting those 3 stories, is that God 00:10:25.33\00:10:30.28 literally, with Michael and the Strip Club owner. 00:10:30.31\00:10:33.79 That morning in my own devotions, I'm doing this whole 00:10:33.82\00:10:36.61 study on forgiveness, not realizing that God is setting 00:10:36.64\00:10:39.34 me up so I can forgive him in the studio, on that program. 00:10:39.37\00:10:44.20 I'm thinking God how cool are you, I did even realize I 00:10:44.23\00:10:47.12 had that much animosity still in me for the damage that 00:10:47.15\00:10:50.81 was put on me while I was homeless. 00:10:50.84\00:10:52.85 So it was just amazing. 00:10:52.88\00:10:54.79 We did another show, and it got us say another group 00:10:54.82\00:10:59.84 that came in, some friends of mine came in from LA. 00:10:59.87\00:11:01.17 One is a stripper and she found God and literally, she 00:11:01.20\00:11:05.39 finds God and steps into recovery and she is full of joy. 00:11:05.42\00:11:08.25 We also had Shannon, that's were John From Every Woman's Battle 00:11:08.28\00:11:11.27 talking about sexual addictions and coming out of that. 00:11:11.30\00:11:14.66 She was so strung out sexually, I mean she was so strung out. 00:11:14.69\00:11:19.57 Not even realizing it she gets married to a guy that is 00:11:19.60\00:11:22.23 normal, I mean to say normal he was like a virgin when they got 00:11:22.26\00:11:25.06 married, I didn't think that any one was still doing that. 00:11:25.09\00:11:26.88 And I know that they are, - or not doing that - but you 00:11:26.91\00:11:30.00 know, are not doing that whatever. 00:11:30.03\00:11:31.37 She talks about her coming from acting out horribly and 00:11:31.40\00:11:36.55 her husband coming from a place where he has saved 00:11:36.58\00:11:38.66 himself for her, and had God walked them into healing. 00:11:38.69\00:11:41.52 She was amazing and then we had a gay pastor that 00:11:41.55\00:11:46.13 literally came out of the lifestyle and was so blessed 00:11:46.16\00:11:50.00 by God that he works with other men that are coming out 00:11:50.03\00:11:53.41 lifestyle which - that's why this is so important. 00:11:53.44\00:11:56.01 We've talked bout every man's problem, and when you 00:11:56.04\00:12:00.12 think about sexual addiction and those kind of things 00:12:00.15\00:12:02.42 you think Guy, Guy, Guy, Guy, Guy. 00:12:02.45\00:12:04.47 That has been sort of dealt with but here we find out that 00:12:04.50\00:12:07.73 this is not just a male issue, we see that it's a female 00:12:07.76\00:12:11.69 issue too, a human issue. 00:12:11.72\00:12:13.04 After we did the last season where we had Fred Stoeker 00:12:13.07\00:12:15.70 on with Every Man's Battle, women were e-mailing me and 00:12:15.73\00:12:18.48 calling me up and saying what about us? 00:12:18.51\00:12:20.23 Not realizing that we are in the sexualized society, we 00:12:20.26\00:12:23.70 show on the media and how we have programmed ourselves 00:12:23.73\00:12:25.98 to respond visually. 00:12:26.01\00:12:27.56 We are creating the same kind of sexual addiction in 00:12:27.59\00:12:30.46 women that we have in men because of the visual thing. 00:12:30.49\00:12:33.43 Women's sexual addiction from the past, 00:12:33.46\00:12:36.00 is literally being tweaked a little bit and becoming similar 00:12:36.03\00:12:38.72 to men's addiction and so 00:12:38.75\00:12:40.19 to cover that was absolutely huge, but to step out 00:12:40.22\00:12:44.15 and cover that I am, I'm a little bit afraid. 00:12:44.18\00:12:46.41 God is saying please don't be afraid because we need to 00:12:46.44\00:12:49.66 heal, and so watch these you are going to be blessed. 00:12:49.69\00:12:52.82 After a few years the fireworks don't pop anymore when 00:12:56.78\00:12:59.18 he kisses me and it just becomes normal. 00:12:59.21\00:13:01.35 Well I didn't know what normal felt like, to me normal 00:13:01.38\00:13:03.75 felt like it's over you must not really be my soul mate. 00:13:03.78\00:13:07.23 Right - that I must married the wrong person. 00:13:07.26\00:13:09.20 I had no idea that we weren't burning out, we were 00:13:09.23\00:13:13.29 really just warming up here. 00:13:13.32\00:13:14.64 One thing that did seem to be predictable unfortunately, 00:13:14.67\00:13:17.80 was set there was this thread of sexual abuse throughout my life. 00:13:17.83\00:13:21.03 I was exposed to pornography at 3 years old, and 00:13:21.06\00:13:23.43 molested by multiple people, men and women, 00:13:23.46\00:13:27.41 and raped as a teenager. 00:13:27.44\00:13:28.99 It just really took its toll on me because I internalized it. 00:13:29.02\00:13:33.64 I thought I blamed myself like a lot abused victims do 00:13:33.67\00:13:37.33 and I just thought that something must be wrong with me 00:13:37.36\00:13:39.79 because how do I keep ending up in the situations? 00:13:39.82\00:13:42.24 How do I keep drawing these sort of people into my life, 00:13:42.27\00:13:45.35 so I really dealt with a lot of blame and a lot of shame 00:13:45.38\00:13:47.36 and didn't talk about it. 00:13:47.40\00:13:48.48 She's like no, no, no you can't take me home, I'm 00:13:48.52\00:13:50.76 like I'm taking you home, there is no way you're going to walk. 00:13:50.80\00:13:53.02 So she gets in the car with me and we drive to downtown 00:13:53.05\00:13:55.73 and before I know it we are on skid row. 00:13:55.77\00:13:57.69 Which is the worst part in LA, like you know the worst - 00:13:57.73\00:14:00.78 I've been there - yeah, so you know it's awful. 00:14:00.82\00:14:03.68 So we are down there my heart is breaking inside. 00:14:03.72\00:14:06.51 She said that's mine that's mine on the corner but can 00:14:06.55\00:14:08.68 you drop me here, which is like 3 blocks back. 00:14:08.72\00:14:10.79 I said no, no, no all park my car and a walk you in, and 00:14:10.82\00:14:13.32 just with this look on her face, she was just humiliated 00:14:13.35\00:14:15.81 like please, please just drop me off. 00:14:15.85\00:14:18.62 I felt terribly guilty - all the time - oh I just 00:14:18.65\00:14:24.09 didn't know anyone like me. 00:14:24.12\00:14:26.08 I felt like was the only one in the world, I knew better. 00:14:26.12\00:14:30.04 I had never met anyone else that was struggling with 00:14:30.07\00:14:33.96 what I was struggling with. 00:14:33.99\00:14:35.07 I never knew who I could talk to so I didn't, I just 00:14:35.11\00:14:39.35 totally internalized and that was my demise spiritually. 00:14:39.39\00:14:43.60 Now had I at 4 years old had been able to go to my 00:14:43.63\00:14:46.84 parents and tell what happened, they could have assured 00:14:46.88\00:14:49.82 me that I was okay - and that shame would have been 00:14:49.85\00:14:52.76 laid on you - that's right. 00:14:52.79\00:14:53.82 I could've been healed at the age of 4 and could have 00:14:53.85\00:14:57.47 had a normal life, I believe. 00:14:57.50\00:14:59.12 That was a step, there are many factors involved it's 00:14:59.15\00:15:01.96 not any one thing, but that was a step. 00:15:02.00\00:15:04.32 Well Cheri will we think of a possible afflictions and 00:15:07.58\00:15:11.42 addictions that humanity has, we never think that our 00:15:11.46\00:15:14.78 pastor could be suffering from this kind of thing, 00:15:14.81\00:15:17.16 because we kind of put them on a pedestal and we want 00:15:17.20\00:15:19.97 them be pure, yet they are humans and they come from a 00:15:20.01\00:15:22.75 real world with real problems. 00:15:22.78\00:15:24.14 Do you know what is really amazing to me is that the more I 00:15:24.18\00:15:27.34 get into Ministry the more that if I allow, because you're 00:15:27.38\00:15:30.51 like my boss, you know what I love that, because you 00:15:30.55\00:15:32.54 are so incredible with that. 00:15:32.58\00:15:33.76 But if I allow you to be human, you are not 00:15:33.79\00:15:36.84 going to trip up as easy. 00:15:36.87\00:15:38.26 You know I think if I put you on a pedestal and I don't 00:15:38.30\00:15:40.61 allow you to make mistakes, and I don't allow you to say 00:15:40.64\00:15:43.03 you know what I'm having a bad day or whatever, is that 00:15:43.06\00:15:45.41 you are going to trip up easier. 00:15:45.44\00:15:47.39 So I am really learning that even if it is a pastor, 00:15:47.42\00:15:51.22 that is a pastoral gift let them be accountable to you, 00:15:51.26\00:15:54.61 let them have issues that they struggle with, but the 00:15:54.65\00:15:57.93 fact that they will walk through them honestly is incredible. 00:15:57.97\00:16:00.36 If they don't share were somebody there are going 00:16:00.40\00:16:02.46 to trip up and get themselves in trouble. 00:16:02.49\00:16:03.67 I think they would be worthy of more respect when you 00:16:03.71\00:16:06.33 realize that they are also fighting their own demons, 00:16:06.37\00:16:09.37 and fighting them successfully, so that when he says you 00:16:09.40\00:16:12.36 can beat this Cheri, he's coming from a place of 00:16:12.40\00:16:15.83 knowledge not theory. 00:16:15.87\00:16:17.10 Because he has beaten it in his own life. 00:16:17.13\00:16:18.85 And there were some people that have done that - yeah! 00:16:18.88\00:16:21.74 they will say you can beat this because it says 00:16:21.78\00:16:23.35 in Scripture, and I'm thinking what does it say in your life? 00:16:23.39\00:16:26.78 Because right now I just need skin on what it says. 00:16:26.82\00:16:30.45 So if you share that, that is why I'm so blessed by the 00:16:30.48\00:16:33.07 folks that have been on the show because they literally 00:16:33.10\00:16:35.85 are sharing what they have been through and how the 00:16:35.89\00:16:38.60 Scriptures have helped. 00:16:38.63\00:16:39.87 I'm going to go back to the Exalting His Word because 00:16:39.91\00:16:42.29 that is the book for the season. 00:16:42.32\00:16:43.61 And I have shared this book the least of any book we 00:16:43.65\00:16:48.02 have had on because my computer was stolen and you'll 00:16:48.06\00:16:52.39 learn that through the season. 00:16:52.43\00:16:53.51 My computer were stolen in the airport on the way so I 00:16:53.54\00:16:56.81 lost all my notes, but the book is, I just want you to 00:16:56.85\00:17:00.10 keep this in Shelly Quinn's book on page 126, she goes 00:17:00.13\00:17:03.56 over instructions on how to kind of stay in Scripture, 00:17:03.60\00:17:06.99 how to get into Scripture. 00:17:07.03\00:17:08.05 One is in the morning to devote some time, you know and 00:17:08.09\00:17:11.50 she said 30 minutes a day, I am thinking right now 00:17:11.54\00:17:14.92 what ever you can put in. 00:17:14.95\00:17:16.33 Get up to 30 minutes a day, get up to an hour every 00:17:16.36\00:17:19.46 day or what ever but I think right now just opening the book. 00:17:19.49\00:17:21.78 I would begin with prayer seriously, some people 00:17:21.81\00:17:24.69 say how do I pray. 00:17:24.72\00:17:26.12 Just hey God, you know I'm here again today just talk to Him. 00:17:26.16\00:17:29.86 And 3, speak affirmations and supporting Scriptures aloud. 00:17:29.90\00:17:33.00 Like when I first got in the Word of God and it says I'm 00:17:33.03\00:17:36.11 a new creature in Christ and that God knows my stuff. 00:17:36.14\00:17:40.11 Psalm 51 talks about, the Psalmist, whatever you decide 00:17:40.14\00:17:43.24 about me is right because I have all this junk - right! 00:17:43.28\00:17:45.91 And God decides I'm innocent and He wants to bring me 00:17:45.94\00:17:48.82 back into His fold, and not innocent in that I haven't 00:17:48.85\00:17:51.58 acted out, but because the blood of the Lamb has 00:17:51.61\00:17:54.48 covered me I am now looked at as if I had never sinned. 00:17:54.52\00:17:58.36 So that I learned in Scripture and began to speak that into 00:17:58.39\00:18:02.17 your life - it takes a little time to wrap your mind around 00:18:02.20\00:18:04.47 that because that is a whole new way thinking about yourself. 00:18:04.51\00:18:07.30 I'm a woman of God, I am in Ambassador for Christ, and so 00:18:07.34\00:18:10.09 be careful when you think you are my boss. 00:18:10.13\00:18:12.06 You know God will contend with those who contend with me 00:18:12.09\00:18:15.71 and all that stuff. 00:18:15.75\00:18:17.24 So you write that down. 00:18:17.27\00:18:18.69 And repeat affirmations throughout the day, when you are 00:18:18.73\00:18:22.17 going throughout the day. 00:18:22.20\00:18:23.17 I was really struggling with who I am in my past you know. 00:18:23.18\00:18:29.74 I am a liar, I manipulate, I have this horrible 00:18:29.77\00:18:32.72 background were are was homeless for 10 years. 00:18:32.76\00:18:35.64 So I learned a horrible stuff on the streets, how to 00:18:35.67\00:18:38.21 play people and all that. 00:18:38.25\00:18:39.30 I believe the devil just flooded me one day with the 00:18:39.33\00:18:43.40 reality of who I am, I couldn't argue anything. 00:18:43.44\00:18:45.52 I couldn't say that's not me and that stuff and all of a 00:18:45.55\00:18:48.77 sudden a Scripture comes to mind that I am dead to that. 00:18:48.80\00:18:51.85 Yeah - that the old man of sin is dead, and I started 00:18:51.89\00:18:54.63 crying because I thought, you know what if I dead to that 00:18:54.66\00:18:57.37 do I still have to still listen. 00:18:57.40\00:18:58.87 God said absolutely not, don't even listen to those 00:18:58.90\00:19:01.83 thoughts of this is who you are because you are dead to 00:19:01.86\00:19:04.75 who you are as a incredible child of God grafted 00:19:04.78\00:19:07.99 onto Christ because He did that for us. 00:19:08.03\00:19:09.95 So it is like being able to get into the Word and 00:19:09.98\00:19:13.03 literally start repeating what it says because what you 00:19:13.07\00:19:16.26 think is true, none of it's true. 00:19:16.29\00:19:18.21 You know none of it is true, we are so far removed from 00:19:18.24\00:19:20.88 what actually is true that we don't even know. 00:19:20.92\00:19:23.04 So the word of God reflects that to us. 00:19:23.08\00:19:24.61 And number 5 says conclude with prayer and praise. 00:19:24.64\00:19:28.55 If I can get the fact that now coming from homelessness, 00:19:28.59\00:19:31.79 illiterate and all that kind of stuff, that I am a woman 00:19:31.82\00:19:35.23 of God, stood up in Christ, in the Holy of Holies, in the 00:19:35.27\00:19:38.29 presence of my Father because Christ invited me there. 00:19:38.32\00:19:40.74 And He dresses me and puts me a priestly garments and 00:19:40.78\00:19:43.16 sends me out into the world. 00:19:43.19\00:19:44.85 When demons see me they see a woman of God, not just 00:19:44.88\00:19:48.19 somebody in jeans and a T-shirt, and they literally have to back 00:19:48.23\00:19:51.50 off, because of the Holy Spirit in me. 00:19:51.54\00:19:54.29 I'm thinking that is powerful stuff, but if I don't know 00:19:54.33\00:19:58.07 that, I can't step into that place of authority and that 00:19:58.11\00:20:01.82 boldness of who I am in Christ. 00:20:01.85\00:20:03.63 So it literally says to repeat that and then praise God for it. 00:20:03.66\00:20:08.25 And if you don't feel it, so what! 00:20:08.29\00:20:11.17 So what and I don't mean it in a disrespectful way, but 00:20:11.21\00:20:15.11 it is almost like if somebody was stolen at birth from a 00:20:15.15\00:20:18.45 from a King's family, and literally gets returned when 00:20:18.48\00:20:21.75 they are in their 30's. 00:20:21.79\00:20:22.76 It doesn't matter if they don't feel like they are a 00:20:22.78\00:20:24.72 member of the family, they are they were stolen at birth. 00:20:24.76\00:20:27.25 So it's like being able to in your mind get that sense 00:20:27.29\00:20:30.08 that somebody robbed you of your birthright, and Christ 00:20:30.12\00:20:32.84 is trying to restore that and bring you back to restoration. 00:20:32.87\00:20:36.23 And the last one just kills me because I wanted to say 00:20:36.26\00:20:38.70 Shelly why did you put that in this book? 00:20:38.73\00:20:42.01 In the book it says be consistent, DAH! 00:20:42.04\00:20:45.24 I'm an addict in recovery do you know what I mean, it's like 00:20:45.28\00:20:47.96 I'm not consistent about anything, but be consistent. 00:20:47.99\00:20:50.83 Remember that this is your life line, this is more 00:20:50.87\00:20:53.46 important to you than the food you putting your body. 00:20:53.50\00:20:56.40 So if I know that the Word of God, what the Word of God 00:20:56.44\00:20:59.72 says is more important for me to get a grip on than the 00:20:59.76\00:21:02.72 food that I put in my body and to be consistent every 00:21:02.75\00:21:05.68 day, at least do this basic stuff. 00:21:05.71\00:21:09.17 Of course then repeat it when you get up in the morning. 00:21:09.21\00:21:11.79 And not wait for the feeling drive yourself through, 00:21:11.82\00:21:14.36 discipline yourself. 00:21:14.40\00:21:15.37 You know Paul gives that yucky list of sins in 00:21:15.39\00:21:19.65 parentheses, it says these people are not going to hear 00:21:19.69\00:21:22.54 the kingdom and then he says in some such were of you. 00:21:22.58\00:21:25.37 You used to be, that I used to be that, but you are washed. 00:21:25.40\00:21:28.35 Liars, drug addicts, homosexuals, porn addicts I mean 00:21:28.39\00:21:31.21 you can list all that kind of stuff - and you used to 00:21:31.24\00:21:34.03 be that, but you are not anymore - exactly. 00:21:34.06\00:21:35.82 And whether you feel it or not, it's not important, go 00:21:35.86\00:21:38.79 with God's Word, because he says if you come he is 00:21:38.82\00:21:41.72 faithful and just, you know 1 John 1:9, 00:21:41.75\00:21:43.67 to forgive and to cleanse. 00:21:43.71\00:21:44.98 That is His job, your job is to say Lord I can't do 00:21:45.02\00:21:48.54 anything, you know I can't do anything, You have to do it. 00:21:48.57\00:21:51.10 When you say that, He's going to do that and 00:21:51.13\00:21:53.25 that's what this show is. 00:21:53.29\00:21:55.24 The Ron Woolsey's of the world, Shannon Ethridge, 00:21:55.27\00:21:57.28 what a powerful testimony. 00:21:57.32\00:21:58.47 You know she's stripping - she rocked us - and the spirit 00:21:58.50\00:22:00.66 of God is coming into her life and all of a sudden she 00:22:00.69\00:22:02.77 feels her nakedness and she says this is not right anymore. 00:22:02.81\00:22:07.01 And with Harmony - literally Harmony literally turning 00:22:07.05\00:22:10.26 around to do a lap dance for somebody, and I don't know 00:22:10.29\00:22:13.53 how raw you want to get, you said this is a raw show but 00:22:13.57\00:22:16.86 literally as she turns around all of a sudden God just 00:22:16.89\00:22:20.15 shows her who she is in Christ. 00:22:20.19\00:22:21.67 She says I was looking for fig leaves, I was so shamed, 00:22:21.71\00:22:24.88 not because God shamed me, and God showed me who I am 00:22:24.92\00:22:28.06 and I don't belong here - yeah. 00:22:28.10\00:22:29.68 I don't belong here, rocked into the house of God from 00:22:29.71\00:22:31.95 that point on and never went back to that life - and 00:22:31.99\00:22:34.20 where does God meet you Cheri? 00:22:34.23\00:22:35.48 He meets you right where you are, does He wait for 00:22:35.52\00:22:37.21 you have to get in the dressing room and get dressed 00:22:37.25\00:22:38.87 no, because you are standing there naked and God says hey, 00:22:38.91\00:22:40.79 not cool anymore. 00:22:40.82\00:22:42.42 And at that moment the Holy Spirit is in your life yeah 00:22:42.46\00:22:44.54 because He loves you. 00:22:44.58\00:22:45.81 It's the absolute it is so huge and what is really 00:22:45.84\00:22:49.54 amazing to me about, and I just got a say over and over 00:22:49.58\00:22:52.37 again, I am so grateful to be able to do this program, 00:22:52.40\00:22:54.96 because I know that there are people out there still in 00:22:54.99\00:22:57.69 the lifestyle, still acting out, still in front of their 00:22:57.73\00:23:00.28 computer looking at porn and stuff like that and I just 00:23:00.31\00:23:02.83 want to say to you get into the Word of God. 00:23:02.86\00:23:06.65 Don't wait to get to where you feel convicted and change, 00:23:06.68\00:23:09.91 because you may never get that conviction. 00:23:09.94\00:23:12.01 You may never within yourself be able to 00:23:12.04\00:23:14.07 even see the shame of it. 00:23:14.11\00:23:15.54 God says you know what, let Me unfold it for you. 00:23:15.58\00:23:18.94 For one He says He doesn't like in Romans 8:1, He says 00:23:18.98\00:23:22.31 I do it without condemnation. 00:23:22.34\00:23:23.31 He doesn't come in and say I want you feel bad enough 00:23:23.32\00:23:25.70 about this that you quit, He says know I want you to feel 00:23:25.73\00:23:28.39 loved enough to walk away from who you are not. 00:23:28.42\00:23:31.05 Do you know what I mean? 00:23:31.08\00:23:32.08 That is absolutely, it is absolutely huge, the 00:23:32.12\00:23:35.23 difference, so sometimes we want to shame ourselves and 00:23:35.27\00:23:37.89 quit our behaviors, and we want to white knuckle it, and I don't 00:23:37.93\00:23:40.10 want to do that again. 00:23:40.14\00:23:41.26 I don't want to smoke again, I'm not going to go to a 00:23:41.29\00:23:43.39 house of prostitution. 00:23:43.42\00:23:44.81 I'm not going to another Strip Club, I'm not going to 00:23:44.85\00:23:47.03 have an affair or my husband and all that kind of stuff. 00:23:47.06\00:23:49.32 I'm not going to do any of that and God says you know 00:23:49.36\00:23:51.98 what, in your own power you do not even understand the 00:23:52.02\00:23:54.60 wrongness of it yet. 00:23:54.64\00:23:55.71 So step into the Word of God, step in, exalt His word and 00:23:55.74\00:23:59.86 in this whole season is about exalting His word, not for 00:23:59.89\00:24:03.85 any other reason then we have to know who we are in Christ. 00:24:03.88\00:24:07.80 Because once we know who we are in Christ all this 00:24:07.84\00:24:10.38 behavioral stuff doesn't work anymore. 00:24:10.41\00:24:12.09 We are going to take a break and we will be right back! 00:24:12.13\00:24:15.02 I want to say thanks for watching, we'll be right back! 00:24:15.05\00:24:17.90