The following program discusses sensitive issues 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.30 related to addictive behavior. 00:00:03.33\00:00:04.97 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:05.00\00:00:06.80 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:06.84\00:00:08.90 Welcome back. 00:00:13.31\00:00:14.64 I am so proud of God all the time, 00:00:14.68\00:00:16.48 I want to kiss him on the face. 00:00:16.51\00:00:17.85 I wanted to scream that when I said, 00:00:17.88\00:00:20.22 I want to be well, 00:00:20.25\00:00:21.58 I had no idea that you were gonna give me my own self, 00:00:21.62\00:00:24.95 my family and my children in the process. 00:00:24.99\00:00:28.22 And it sounds like in your life, 00:00:28.26\00:00:30.43 the same thing 00:00:30.46\00:00:31.79 and you said, "You've still seen so much." 00:00:31.83\00:00:33.26 Yeah, yeah. 00:00:33.29\00:00:34.63 We've made a commitment, we wanna keep growing. 00:00:34.66\00:00:36.26 So we had a tough spot, 00:00:36.30\00:00:38.23 not too long ago and our counselor said 00:00:38.27\00:00:40.14 something that was really significant, 00:00:40.17\00:00:41.70 when we had to tell us why, I mean, 00:00:41.74\00:00:43.07 we're in marriage ministry, right? 00:00:43.10\00:00:44.44 Right. 00:00:44.47\00:00:45.81 So the devil comes and says, 00:00:45.84\00:00:47.18 "What are you doing? 00:00:47.21\00:00:48.54 You guys, don't have..." What do you guys know? 00:00:48.58\00:00:49.91 And she just simply rephrased, 00:00:49.94\00:00:51.28 reframed the whole issue and said, 00:00:51.31\00:00:52.71 "You know, you guys are in a really heavy 00:00:52.75\00:00:54.78 growing phase, right now." 00:00:54.82\00:00:58.72 Yeah, that's what we do, 00:00:58.75\00:01:00.19 we hit growth phases, don't we? 00:01:00.22\00:01:02.29 And I think that, for me, that just changed everything. 00:01:02.32\00:01:04.46 I was like, "Oh, this is hard. 00:01:04.49\00:01:05.83 We're in a growth phase." 00:01:05.86\00:01:07.20 And even visually, 00:01:07.23\00:01:08.56 when you wanna say that is that, 00:01:08.60\00:01:09.93 when you go out to prune a tree, 00:01:09.96\00:01:12.20 a fruit tree that you want to bear more fruit, 00:01:12.23\00:01:14.40 that pruning is never easy. 00:01:14.44\00:01:16.24 And so we think we're gonna get it 00:01:16.27\00:01:17.77 and we're gonna be home free at that point, 00:01:17.81\00:01:20.51 if we are not dealing with this on a daily basis, 00:01:20.54\00:01:23.35 we will start believing lies again. 00:01:23.38\00:01:25.55 So and so counseling has helped, 00:01:25.58\00:01:27.65 anything else, Timmi? 00:01:27.68\00:01:29.32 No, I think just what Richie said, you know, 00:01:29.35\00:01:30.99 if our goal is 'oneness,' Biblical 'oneness.' 00:01:31.02\00:01:34.59 Then we have to be committed to re-evaluating 00:01:34.62\00:01:38.19 how are we doing now at on a pretty constant basis 00:01:38.23\00:01:41.13 because there's always gonna be things that come in 00:01:41.16\00:01:44.17 and the reason that's important, 00:01:44.20\00:01:45.53 you know, Genesis 2, at the end of the chapter, 00:01:45.57\00:01:47.40 and Moses, you know, 00:01:47.44\00:01:48.77 talks about being naked and unashamed 00:01:48.80\00:01:50.74 and that's what we're going for and, you know, 00:01:50.77\00:01:54.08 I don't think any of us will arrive there completely, 00:01:54.11\00:01:56.11 but that's still what we're working towards. 00:01:56.14\00:01:58.18 And so to keep working because, 00:01:58.21\00:01:59.98 I want our marriage to be characterized 00:02:00.02\00:02:02.05 by naked and unashamed. 00:02:02.08\00:02:03.62 And I love that 'cause it's saying that 00:02:03.65\00:02:06.12 most of us really have this illusion 00:02:06.15\00:02:09.42 of what we see a relationship being, 00:02:09.46\00:02:12.26 we have a picture in our head 00:02:12.29\00:02:14.36 and I think that there are times 00:02:14.40\00:02:16.97 and I know you guys know that 00:02:17.00\00:02:18.47 and I wanna say thank you, for being on the program 00:02:18.50\00:02:20.60 and sharing so far but I wanna say, 00:02:20.64\00:02:22.87 to anybody watching, 00:02:22.90\00:02:24.24 we have a picture in our mind of what is love. 00:02:24.27\00:02:26.41 What is relationship? 00:02:26.44\00:02:28.11 Who am I in relationship? 00:02:28.14\00:02:29.64 And that picture, a lot of time, 00:02:29.68\00:02:31.65 was taken in our pain, 00:02:31.68\00:02:33.58 was taken at a time that we had no idea. 00:02:33.62\00:02:36.58 We were watching a movie about love 00:02:36.62\00:02:38.85 and God himself says, 00:02:38.89\00:02:41.09 "Give me the picture." 00:02:41.12\00:02:42.56 Because I can't heal you with that picture, 00:02:42.59\00:02:45.29 because that's not what love is and so being able to say, 00:02:45.33\00:02:49.53 "Am I brave enough, my knees are shaken, 00:02:49.56\00:02:51.97 my hands are trembling 00:02:52.00\00:02:53.37 and I'm surrendering my very picture of love to God 00:02:53.40\00:02:56.81 and asking Him, 'What is it? 00:02:56.84\00:02:59.04 What is it? Who am I? 00:02:59.07\00:03:01.51 How are you going to put me in relationship 00:03:01.54\00:03:03.75 when I'm afraid of my own shadows, 00:03:03.78\00:03:05.45 sometimes depending on where you come from?' 00:03:05.48\00:03:07.98 And God said, 'I promise you, I'm a great counselor, 00:03:08.02\00:03:11.05 I'm a good accountability partner, 00:03:11.09\00:03:13.09 I know who you are the day after resurrection 00:03:13.12\00:03:15.86 and I will bring you to a place of healing.'" 00:03:15.89\00:03:19.13 It is absolutely the coolest thing. 00:03:19.16\00:03:21.16 Don't be afraid to surrender to God. 00:03:21.20\00:03:23.60 Don't be afraid to check yourself 00:03:23.63\00:03:26.13 and really work through this stuff 00:03:26.17\00:03:27.80 and don't be afraid to love the person in front of you. 00:03:27.84\00:03:30.41 Until next time, 00:03:30.44\00:03:31.77 always remember that God is crazy about you, 00:03:31.81\00:03:33.68 me too, 00:03:33.71\00:03:35.08 Don't be afraid. Turn it out. 00:03:35.11\00:03:36.78