The following program discusses sensitive issues 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.23 related to addictive behavior. 00:00:03.26\00:00:05.03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:05.07\00:00:06.80 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:06.84\00:00:08.90 My guest today, is like my sister 00:00:08.94\00:00:11.51 but just imagine being surrounded by addicts, 00:00:11.54\00:00:15.04 grandmother in and out of jail, 00:00:15.08\00:00:16.61 mother shooting that meth and you're six years old. 00:00:16.64\00:00:19.98 She had to decide to survive at that age. 00:00:20.02\00:00:22.55 How did she do it? 00:00:22.58\00:00:23.92 We'll find out today in the cafe. 00:00:23.95\00:00:25.69 Welcome to Celebrating Life in Recovery, 00:00:25.72\00:00:27.19 I'm Cheri, your host. 00:00:27.22\00:00:28.59 Come join us. 00:00:28.62\00:00:29.96 You know, it's interesting to me, 00:00:56.28\00:00:57.62 there was a time in my life, I'm going to church and I am... 00:00:57.65\00:01:01.59 I love church and it's ridiculous 00:01:01.62\00:01:04.56 'cause I wasn't raised like that. 00:01:04.59\00:01:06.09 My background is really crazy but I love my church family, 00:01:06.13\00:01:09.43 so I'm going to church 00:01:09.46\00:01:10.80 and I ended up going down a different street 00:01:10.83\00:01:13.10 than I normally go down 00:01:13.13\00:01:14.47 and I live in a old country town 00:01:14.50\00:01:16.34 and I'm going down this different street 00:01:16.37\00:01:17.74 and I pass this strip club and it was crazy 00:01:17.77\00:01:21.11 'cause as I passed, I looked up and this kid is walking in 00:01:21.14\00:01:24.78 and I think she's, like, 16 years old. 00:01:24.81\00:01:26.78 And she's walking and obviously, 00:01:26.82\00:01:28.32 gonna start her shift. 00:01:28.35\00:01:30.19 And I thought, I cannot believe, 00:01:30.22\00:01:32.89 I haven't even said, 'Hi.' 00:01:32.92\00:01:35.72 You know, I'd never thought about going there. 00:01:35.76\00:01:37.56 I've never thought about, you know, 00:01:37.59\00:01:38.99 I wonder if I could just say, 'Hi' 00:01:39.03\00:01:40.60 and, kind of, talk about my life or just say, 'Hi,' 00:01:40.63\00:01:43.70 just get to know her or anybody that works there. 00:01:43.73\00:01:46.37 And so I'm going to church and I'm thinking of that 00:01:46.40\00:01:49.80 and I'm feeling bad 00:01:49.84\00:01:51.17 because my family is all strung out, 00:01:51.21\00:01:53.38 my family has various addictions. 00:01:53.41\00:01:55.28 My sister was raised in strip clubs. 00:01:55.31\00:01:58.48 My other sister's a meth addict 00:01:58.51\00:01:59.88 and we used to have all of that, kind of, stuff. 00:01:59.91\00:02:01.85 So I'm thinking about this, 00:02:01.88\00:02:03.22 all the way to church and I get to church 00:02:03.25\00:02:04.69 and I'm trying to just sit there 00:02:04.72\00:02:06.22 and wait for the sermon, 00:02:06.25\00:02:07.59 I wait for Sabbath school and all that kind of stuff 00:02:07.62\00:02:09.49 and in my mind I'm thinking, "Man, I wish I... 00:02:09.52\00:02:12.69 Maybe, I could go back there." 00:02:12.73\00:02:14.26 And all of the sound equipment breaks, right? 00:02:14.30\00:02:17.70 And somebody says, "We're gonna fix the sound." 00:02:17.73\00:02:20.67 Does anybody have a story or something to say 00:02:20.70\00:02:23.47 while we're waiting for someone to fix a sound. 00:02:23.51\00:02:25.97 And I'm like, "I do" and I did. 00:02:26.01\00:02:30.15 And then not only did I have a story, 00:02:30.18\00:02:32.01 is I wanted you to pray 'cause you know what? 00:02:32.05\00:02:34.15 When I leave here, I'm gonna go to that strip club 00:02:34.18\00:02:37.09 and I'm looking, I'm serious. 00:02:37.12\00:02:38.45 I'm looking like Mary Poppins, I'm all dressed up. 00:02:38.49\00:02:40.66 So I'm gonna go to the strip club, 00:02:40.69\00:02:42.02 so when I leave here, 00:02:42.06\00:02:44.39 I'm gonna go talk to that girl at the strip club, 00:02:44.43\00:02:46.33 so would you pray for me? 00:02:46.36\00:02:47.83 And the entire church looked the same way, 00:02:47.86\00:02:49.96 like, can you do that on the Sabbath? 00:02:50.00\00:02:53.74 And it was, like, they were shocked, there was... 00:02:53.77\00:02:56.24 I could see in their faces, 00:02:56.27\00:02:57.61 like, I don't know if you could, kind of, 00:02:57.64\00:02:58.97 do that on the Sabbath and I thought, "Oh, stop. 00:02:59.01\00:03:01.61 I just want prayer." 00:03:01.64\00:03:02.98 Right, so I'm asking someone to pray 00:03:03.01\00:03:04.71 and I can't wait till the sermon's over 00:03:04.75\00:03:07.25 now 'cause I have a plan. 00:03:07.28\00:03:08.62 I literally have a plan. 00:03:08.65\00:03:09.98 So I get back in my car and on Sabbath, 00:03:10.02\00:03:13.09 and I end up at the strip club 00:03:13.12\00:03:14.46 and it was called, 'The Nickel' something. 00:03:14.49\00:03:16.12 It was the sleaziest place you've ever seen. 00:03:16.16\00:03:18.49 Just a tiny little, kind of, shed in the middle of nowhere 00:03:18.53\00:03:22.36 and so I started to go into this club 00:03:22.40\00:03:26.53 and what was funny about going into this club, 00:03:26.57\00:03:29.00 is I get there and this guy is standing at the door 00:03:29.04\00:03:32.44 and he says, "There's a cover charge." 00:03:32.47\00:03:34.98 And I'm, like, "Really? 00:03:35.01\00:03:36.34 You're gonna charge me to walk in here." 00:03:36.38\00:03:38.05 You should pay me, it was such a, you know, 00:03:38.08\00:03:41.12 I'm just laughing and I'm thinking, 00:03:41.15\00:03:42.85 "I don't want anyone 00:03:42.88\00:03:44.22 because I'm surrounded by Sabbath keepers." 00:03:44.25\00:03:46.45 I don't want anyone say, 00:03:46.49\00:03:47.82 "Well, you can't buy and sell on the Sabbath." 00:03:47.86\00:03:49.22 So I'm thinking, I'm paying the cover charge. 00:03:49.26\00:03:51.43 So I paid to get in, right? 00:03:51.46\00:03:54.23 And then I go sit down and the guy says, 00:03:54.26\00:03:56.77 "It'd be a two drink minimum." 00:03:56.80\00:03:59.17 Stop, you're killing me. 00:03:59.20\00:04:01.24 I'm just trying to talk with this girl, right? 00:04:01.27\00:04:03.81 So two drinks, so I ordered a couple of 7ups 00:04:03.84\00:04:06.61 and now the girls are dancing, and inside a strip club 00:04:06.64\00:04:09.94 when the lights are off, 00:04:09.98\00:04:11.31 you can play it off like this is, 00:04:11.35\00:04:13.11 kind of, a nice little bar. 00:04:13.15\00:04:14.98 When the lights go on, it is horrible looking 00:04:15.02\00:04:17.35 but I'm sitting there. 00:04:17.39\00:04:18.92 I've got my 7ups, I'm doing whatever 00:04:18.95\00:04:22.16 and the owner finally comes and it's like, 00:04:22.19\00:04:23.93 "What are you doing here?" 00:04:23.96\00:04:25.39 Because at first, they thought I was working for the bank, 00:04:25.43\00:04:27.36 maybe, fix an ATM. machine. 00:04:27.40\00:04:29.10 You know what I mean? 'Cause I don't fit. 00:04:29.13\00:04:31.63 I don't look like I would be in there during the day, 00:04:31.67\00:04:33.84 all that kind of stuff and so I told them. 00:04:33.87\00:04:36.17 I said, "You know what? 00:04:36.20\00:04:37.54 I was funneled into a $32 million industry 00:04:37.57\00:04:39.77 when I was 13 years old, on the streets of L.A. 00:04:39.81\00:04:42.68 There are 80,000 kids on the streets right now. 00:04:42.71\00:04:45.65 In any major city, you're gonna find them 00:04:45.68\00:04:47.95 and I just saw this girl walk in this morning 00:04:47.98\00:04:50.05 and I just wanted to say, "Hi." Just say, you know, who I am. 00:04:50.09\00:04:53.02 And he says that wasn't okay with him. 00:04:53.05\00:04:55.86 But he did say something to me that, 00:04:55.89\00:04:57.93 "Cheri, I don't do this to hurt anyone." 00:04:57.96\00:05:02.13 And I said, "I know," 00:05:02.16\00:05:03.83 and I knew he was telling the truth. 00:05:03.87\00:05:05.53 He wasn't out to hurt anyone. 00:05:05.57\00:05:06.90 This was his business 00:05:06.94\00:05:08.27 and we, kind of, became friends. 00:05:08.30\00:05:11.14 I gave him a book. 00:05:11.17\00:05:12.51 We talked a little bit and I said, 00:05:12.54\00:05:14.38 "But it does hurt people, you know," 00:05:14.41\00:05:16.75 and I got up and left. 00:05:16.78\00:05:18.11 He didn't really want me to talk to the girls 00:05:18.15\00:05:19.58 while they were dancing, he didn't want me to, 00:05:19.61\00:05:21.22 kind of, jump in and interfere with the day. 00:05:21.25\00:05:23.52 But I left and as I'm walking out 00:05:23.55\00:05:25.25 I said in my head, "God, some day, 00:05:25.29\00:05:30.39 let this be a church." 00:05:30.43\00:05:32.63 Just in my head, I get sent away 00:05:32.66\00:05:34.90 for a couple of weeks after that 00:05:34.93\00:05:36.63 and I'm, you know, on a gig, I come back 00:05:36.67\00:05:39.33 and then I'm out again and I travel a lot. 00:05:39.37\00:05:41.67 So I'm out a number of times. 00:05:41.70\00:05:43.24 By the time I make it back to church, 00:05:43.27\00:05:45.11 the time has passed and someone said, 00:05:45.14\00:05:48.08 "Cheri, did you hear what happened to that club, 00:05:48.11\00:05:51.55 that we prayed about?" 00:05:51.58\00:05:52.91 And I'm like, "No." 00:05:52.95\00:05:54.48 And on New Year's Eve, 00:05:54.52\00:05:56.28 somebody had a fight in the parking lot. 00:05:56.32\00:05:58.05 They killed someone in the parking lot, 00:05:58.09\00:06:00.46 then they are arrested 00:06:00.49\00:06:01.82 and everybody started checking this person's books, 00:06:01.86\00:06:03.49 the club gets shut down. 00:06:03.53\00:06:05.73 And their liquor license was actually pulled, 00:06:05.76\00:06:07.50 all of that stuff. 00:06:07.53\00:06:08.86 And so now it's nothing. 00:06:08.90\00:06:10.37 As time has gone by, it went from nothing to a pool hall, 00:06:10.40\00:06:15.24 from a pool hall to a nothing again. 00:06:15.27\00:06:18.17 My feeling is, some day it's gonna be a church 00:06:18.21\00:06:20.78 and so what I thought during that time, 00:06:20.81\00:06:25.58 is that sometimes people whose lives are not changed 00:06:25.61\00:06:27.82 'cause we forget to pray for them. 00:06:27.85\00:06:29.75 Sometimes, we look at whole people groups, 00:06:29.78\00:06:34.42 areas of town, all of that kind of stuff 00:06:34.46\00:06:36.93 and we don't take time to slow down and say, 00:06:36.96\00:06:40.10 "God, please cover them, be with them." 00:06:40.13\00:06:44.57 And so what I wanna say right now, 00:06:44.60\00:06:46.10 I'm gonna introduce you to a friend of mine 00:06:46.13\00:06:47.47 when we come back and I want you to know. 00:06:47.50\00:06:49.70 Don't judge anyone. 00:06:49.74\00:06:51.57 If you don't like a businesses in town, 00:06:51.61\00:06:53.38 pray for that, if you don't, 00:06:53.41\00:06:54.74 if you think somebody is being damaged, 00:06:54.78\00:06:56.78 go talk to them. 00:06:56.81\00:06:58.15 But don't just drive by, 00:06:58.18\00:06:59.61 'cause, you know, we're not in that time anymore. 00:06:59.65\00:07:01.72 It's not time to drive by, it's time to change lives. 00:07:01.75\00:07:04.49 And today, I can't wait 00:07:04.52\00:07:06.92 'cause you're gonna see a life that was changed 00:07:06.96\00:07:08.62 and you're gonna want to kiss God all over the face 00:07:08.66\00:07:10.93 'cause it's amazing. 00:07:10.96\00:07:12.29 We'll be right back. 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