The following program
discusses sensitive issues
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related to addicted behavior.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome to
Celebrating Life and Recovery,
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I'm Cheri your host.
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Have you ever been in a place
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where even your
next breath is painful
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and you just
don't want to do it,
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I don't want to be here?
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Our guest is
gonna talk about that
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in how he found hope in God.
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It was amazing story.
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Come join us in the cafe.
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Welcome.
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You know this whole
season we are talking about
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CELEBRATIONS as an
acronym and the health message,
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and how to maintain in recovery.
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We've covered a lot of stuff.
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We covered choices,
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it's important
that choices you make.
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We have covered exercise.
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We have covered a ton of things
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and it's easy to
tie some of those
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into the
testimony's for the day.
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This one was not as easy.
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We gonna talk about nutrition
and of course everybody.
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I mean, I'm not your mom,
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everybody knows
you have to eat right.
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When I was on the streets,
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I present 10
years on the streets,
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13 to 23 my favorite
meal was Hostess Twinkies
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with some butter on
it, hot from the oven
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and I would just eat that
and then do drugs for days.
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So I had no
nutrition on all kind of drugs,
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no sleeping I was crazy.
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So come out of all that
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and I end up at a
vegan vegetarians house,
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going to withdraws and
trying to figure out man,
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how I'm gonna do this?
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And I remember
going into the kitchen
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and I have told this story
before going in to the kitchen
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and asking do
you have some coffee?
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Do have some tea?
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Do have anything
because I'm dying
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and I'm like
withdrawing from everything.
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And she is like
I'm vegan vegetarian,
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would you like some lentils?
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I'm like stop, I
don't want lentils.
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I want
chocolate, I want Dr Pepper,
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I want some coffee.
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And she was really
gracious in teaching me
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that everything I
put in body matters
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that even artichokes
are gonna detox my liver.
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Who would have guessed it?
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I mean, shut up on that.
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You know, black
walnuts are gonna
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increase my serotonin levels,
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that if I have blueberries
and those kind things
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I'm really gonna help body
to detox and all that stuff.
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So nutrition is important
but you know what I read
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in John 6:35 as Jesus said
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"I'm the bread of
life, he who comes to me
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will never be hungry
and he who believes in Me
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and please to and
trust in and relies on me
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me will never thirst
anymore at any time."
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So what did He mean by that?
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That He is the bread of life.
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And so what I think that
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what God is
trying to say is that
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you really have to know who I'm,
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and to know what I say.
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You have to know
what you believe in,
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what you gonna spiritually
hold on to in your recovery.
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And so I was over, I
just got to say was over
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at Allan Lindsay house,
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I don't know if
anybody knows him.
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But he was a host for program
called Keepers of the Flame,
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and if I get star struck,
I get star struck by Allan.
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If you're watching you
know that I just love you
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and your wife,
but I just love him.
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So I'm now at his house,
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he is an incredible
scholar as far as the Bible
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and prophecy and
all kind of stuff.
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And I'm gonna study
the investigative judgment.
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What is God, when He looks at us
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and He starts looking at
our record, what is He look at?
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Because I don't want
to go look at my record.
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You know, I'm not-- I'm not good
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and I never have been good
and you know I on the streets,
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I lied, manipulated,
I could play anybody,
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I was around all kinds of
stuff, I was a drug dealer.
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I mean all of
that kind of stuff.
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So I don't want Him
to look at my record
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but I want to know
what does He look at?
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And so I said Allan, I'm
gonna study that judgment
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and the end time stuff.
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And he said before you do that
I want you to read the story.
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And I thought
what story is that?
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And he said I want you to
read the story about Joshua.
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And for people that
know this particular writer
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and the fifth testimony
is the story about Joshua.
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And Joshua was comes to
plead for their folks around him
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and he literally
comes and he stand in there
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and he is pleading for you know,
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folks that have
rebelled in there,
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they were just a mess and
so he is pleading for them
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and all of the
sudden saint walks up.
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And just picture this and
I don't want you to picture
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this kind of cheesy I
want you to picture this
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as if you are in the street.
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Saint walks up
and he looks at Joshua
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and he says you know, what?
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You kicked me out
of heaven for him?
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Are you kidding me?
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You gonna-- you
going to let him in
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and keep me out?
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You can't do that.
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You know what,
and he started naming
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of every single
thing that Joshua did,
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his character defects,
the things that he does,
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the fact that he never,
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you know, I don't know about you
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but I don't know if I
make it through 24 hours
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without having something
that I say I'm sorry for.
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But the saint starts
naming of those things.
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Not just little
things that we trip over,
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our very
character is in question
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and he just going down,
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scrolls out stuff and
for each of us he can say,
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he can talk for 24
hours may be 24 years
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and never went out of things
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that he can accuse us
with and it's all true.
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And so Joshua was getting
more and more in despair,
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more and more trash.
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You know, how could I--
how could I answer this?
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How could I come against this?
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And he says Christ turn
around and looks at Joshua
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and just kind of silenced him.
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I died for him,
I have covered him
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and he walks up and
gently says to Joshua,
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can I take your filthy
garment out and cloth you.
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And I just wept when I read that
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because I think you know,
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all of us walk
around with filthy garments,
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all of us walk
around with addictive lean
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of once sort or another.
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Some of us are
obvious heroin addicts
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and all kind of stuff.
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Some people are anger,
some people are sex addicts,
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some people are workaholics,
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some people are
religious addicts
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and they just
trash you religiously.
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We all have something.
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You know, some
people spendaholic
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and I know you are out there.
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You know, we
have all that stuff.
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And so what, what God says is,
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I know all of that, so I gonna--
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I gonna ahead and
forgive your sins,
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take them-- take them on myself
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and literally
take your garments off
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give you clean stuff to
wear and you are forgiven.
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But you know what,
it doesn't do any good
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for God to say that to us
for Him to promise that to us,
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for Him to write
it up in the book
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if we never open
the book and read it.
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So Jesus says I'm
the bread of life.
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Don't, don't be ignorant,
know what this word says.
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When the enemy
comes against you,
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you have to know
where you gonna hold on to.
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When your addictions lie to you,
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when you lie to
yourself you know.
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Like I for a long
time just triggered,
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I don't why I triggered,
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I think that the
more I got in to recovery
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and the more I
realized the things
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that my family
were going through
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and I had told all
kind of stuff about my,
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my take on what they did
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as I was growing
up not realizing that
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they had their own
struggles and their own damage.
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When I started seeing that
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and I started to
really want to repent.
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You know, my mom had me
when she was very young,
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had of five kids
when she was very young.
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My dad was a molester,
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we had all kinds
of stuff in our home,
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and I'm telling all that
stuff it about not be in love.
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And then all the
sudden God shows me that,
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my mom was never
really cared for,
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she was given up
when she was young.
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She had all that stuff
and so I want to repent
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and I want to say to
some body you know what,
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may be how I saw
things were not how they were.
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And I started to feel that
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and you know what
the devil said to me,
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you're just a liar.
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Are you kidding me?
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You have always just wanted
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and he just
started taunting me at that
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and I thought you know if I'm?
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What if this the truth?
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What if I did just,
you know, I just what if?
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What if? What if?
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It almost drove me to despair.
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It almost drove me
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to where I just
wanted to quit everything.
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I wanted to sit down,
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I have the no way to
stand up and say anything.
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And finally the
Holy Sprit gets through
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and says that's not true.
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This is what
happens as I grow you.
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You're gonna
have more compassion
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on the people around you.
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You're gonna be
able to forgive them
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because you see
from their point of view.
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That's what the gospel
is, that's what recovery is.
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So don't let
the enemy taunt you.
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I have died for all of that
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other stuff that
you are dealing with.
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All of the
stuff that He is gonna
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come against you
with I have died for that,
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I want to put
clean cloths on you,
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fresh linen on you,
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I want to put you in
the robe of righteousness
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and I want to stand you up
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tall and strong
daily in your recovery,
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but you have to
know what the Bible says
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this you will never
get through this journey.
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So right now as we
look our nutrition,
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I'm gonna say just like
your momma would say, eat right.
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You know, could the
house just drink is away.
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All that kind of
stuff, grab an apple,
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drink some water,
every thing that's logical
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but I'm also
gonna tell you that God
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Jesus is a bread of life
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that you cannot do
recovery at the death
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that you want to do recovery,
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if you don't know
what the Word of God says.
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You got to get yourself a Bible,
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if you have a Bible dust it off.
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Open it up because
there's sayings in there
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that if you knew them, if
you knew what God said like,
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you know even in Galatians
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is an incredible
thing that it says,
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you know, with
somebody that then comes to God
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and they are so
thrilled, they know that,
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you know, like when I
came to God as a heroin addict,
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teeth missing,
strung out, illiterate,
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I come to God and
I know that He says
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are you a lovely to
me, I delight in you,
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He-- I think showed me
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who I was the day
after resurrection.
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Let me show you who you are,
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not who I'm the
day after I stop heroin
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but who am I the
day after resurrection?
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That's incredible and then
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and then I started
to believe the enemy
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and I started to
strive to be good enough
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for that kind of
love which will kill me
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because I'll
never be good enough.
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I have to rely on the Christ--
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on the promise
that God is good enough,
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that Jesus is good enough
and that He is covered me.
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But I start
relying on my own stuff,
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I start striving to be better,
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I start trying to
do the right thing
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and not to lie
and not to manipulate
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and not to be all that
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and then pretty
soon I'm just in despair
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and even Paul
walks up to the Galatians
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and said who be witched you?
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Who lied to you?
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This was never
about what you can do,
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this is about what
God has all ready done.
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And if I don't know
that from Word of God
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I'm gonna through
everything away in my recovery.
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So I want you to know
on this particular program
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I want to
introduce you to someone
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that was really
driven to despair beyond
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what you can imagine
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and God grabbed him
and plucked him out.
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Out of all that and
brought him back to life.
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So we're gonna talk about that,
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but for you right
now, you have to know that,
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what you eat is important
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and that Jesus
is a bread of life.
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What you know
about, what the word says
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we will keep you in recovery.
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You got to open the book.
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We will be right
back, stay with us.
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