The following program
discusses sensitive issues
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related to addictive behavior.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome back, I love
for one introducing you
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to Brad kind of bringing him in
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and talking about his journey
but this particular thing
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that get you scared me
'cause not only did you get here
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with this possible Parkinson's
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where more than likely
gonna be looking at that,
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I've been called some
friends and said you know,
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Shelly Quinn
called and said, you know,
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here's some suffer Parkinson's
that may take the tremors down
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and we tried it and it
work but you were talking,
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well, you were scaring me,
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go ahead and
continue on the journey.
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What was interesting is that
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and yet again since
we're talking about exercise
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and we talked
about the bike riding
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and stuff like that you
know and that was something
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I was doing was bike
riding, riding the bikes
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but it was crazy
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to have actually
been on some bike rides
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and had been so deep into
the dark place of depression
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and dealing with them, I ever
gonna play the trumpet again
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and manages the
Parkinson's and you know
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there's Focal Dystonia
thing and all this stuff
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where I would be riding alone,
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going okay there's a
truck right there you know,
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it'd be easy enough to just
make this look like an accident
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and you could
collect the insurance money
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and you'd be better off.
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I mean, I was too place
in my life where that was,
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how close it was and
fortunately every time
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that happened it was like, man,
you better pull your bike over
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and check yourself right now.
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You better just stop.
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You better just
stop right in, right now
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because you know, you
don't really intend to do that
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but I would have
never had that thought ever.
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I would have
never had that thought.
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The first time you told me that
those are kind of the thoughts
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that you were having is
I just pleaded with God.
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God, I don't know how
to reach Him right now
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because you had,
it's really interesting
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'cause your
identity was tied up in that
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and even to the point
where the devil was telling you
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that if you are not this,
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not even your
family's gonna love you,
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they are not gonna need
you, they're not gonna--
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why you can't so-- you
can't take care of them,
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you can't even help with
rent or mortgage or anything.
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And so the devil was taking
you out in every single way.
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And as your wife I
couldn't reach you anymore.
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It was really a tough time.
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Well, and from the
ministry stand point
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'cause I was like, oh,
I'm gonna join you in ministry
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and well, I had tried, I
really wasn't functioning,
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I almost couldn't function
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and so I was
bringing nothing to the table.
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You know, and from that
capacity so I was interesting
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to be in a place
or you ever feel like
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you have nothing,
hey, you're worthless.
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What was, to me, fascinating was
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we came to a camp
meeting here at 3ABN
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and I was starting to
make some progress out of that,
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we'll talk a little bit about
that but it was interesting
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to be talking when
J.D. and Pastor Joe
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and just saying, you
know, I've never been in a place
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where I've had nothing been
reduced to absolutely nothing
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and have them say good, now
God can start working with you.
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It was so-- so
it was you're like,
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what are you talking
about God? It's hard.
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It's hard, it's hard
to speak practically,
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the recovery
side of it in sense it
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is supposed to
be about exercise.
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And people maybe
wondering what this is about
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and there's a story
behind this right here.
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You know, when I finally
kind of came to the place,
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okay, I am depressed, I
have these things going on
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and the first thing I
did was go get a physical.
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I didn't had a physical
and I don't know how long
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so I wanted to make sure that,
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there were no underlying
other medical conditions
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other than
knowing that Parkinson's
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is probably a part of that.
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My colleague told me about a guy
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who work with Focal
Dystonia, he's a trumpet player
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who had it and
so I actually Skype
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to a guy in
Sweden and got some help.
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And the things that he gave
me were very, very beneficial.
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And also there was
somebody in ministry
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that was
working with Parkinson's
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that took some
Amantadine Sulphate
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you got
prescribed from Loma Linda.
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So we got that.
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We got that, you mention that
and that tip came from Shelly
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and started doing that
and so my GP just looked at me
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and he said, okay,
you're 56-years-old
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and if you're baseball player
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what'd you be
doing in the off season.
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Preparing for the season coming.
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If you are a football player.
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If you were any kind of
athlete what would you be doing?
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You'd be preparing
for what you're doing.
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So what have you
been physically to prepare
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for your season of
playing the trumpet,
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'cause it's a physical thing.
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And all of a sudden I'm going
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well, I've had this
natural talent wherever
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we never had to do anything.
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And so all the
sudden it was like,
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oh, well, oh, yeah,
guys lose muscle after,
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what about 20 years old,
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it's starting to beat
down for older guys, right.
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You just shock
somebody that's watching. 20?
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It's earlier for
guys than for girls,
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I'm just letting you know.
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And so I was
interesting to get to that place
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so part of my recovery was
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I actually needed to
start exercising physically.
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And so to me this is kind
of a funny thing is some time,
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not too long
after I kind of starting
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to make some
progress back as we done
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a little bit of the playing
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with the help
and another things.
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Starting to let God tell you
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that your identity
is not in your trumpet,
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you're a man of God
and your identity is in Me.
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'Cause I watch God
do that, it was amazing
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to watch Him love on
you and say, you know what
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you're value for me as
now you're trumpet playing.
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Even though He
likes that about you.
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Exactly, exactly.
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To me it was really
interesting and another thing
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in this came from
Shelly and I can't remember
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what her conversation was but
she was talking about something
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and mentioned
Numbers Chapter 10.
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And needless to
say the trumpet has
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just as tiny little
role in the Bible, right.
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It only shows up once or twice.
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Oh, not true.
Shows up for everywhere.
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Oh, wait a
minute. Oh, that's right.
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Oh, that's right,
at the end of the time
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Gabriel's gonna
be playing a violin.
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Oh, sorry, wait the end plagues
were announced by an Obo.
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Oh, wait a minute, now
that was a trumpet, too.
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Okay. Wait a minute.
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Early on the guys who went out
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in front of the soldiers
were the tambourine players.
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Oh, wait now those
are trumpet players, too.
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So its amazing to look
at the role of the trumpet
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in the Bible and the
significance that it has
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and then start looking at, wait
a minute, I play the trumpet
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and so she did this
thing with Numbers 10:10
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where it was
interesting to look at,
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the first written
record of trumpets kind of
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modern day trumpets really
or hammered metal trumpets
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Moses was commanded to
make two silver hammer trumpets.
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This is not a show for,
this is not a ram sound,
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these are metal trumpets.
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Then it goes on to say that
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only priests can
play the trumpets.
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So I'm thinking, oh, I'm
supposed to be in my journey,
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oh, I'm called to be
the priest of my household,
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so I'm the trumpet player, I'm
kind of looking all this stuff.
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And then what was interesting
too was to look at okay,
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the trumpet definitely is
for signaling and signaling,
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warning to the things like that
but at the end of chapter 10,
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it starts to talk about
play the trumpet in times of joy
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and at your festivals to remind
God of His covenant with you.
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Isn't that amazing?
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That He's covenant with you,
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excuse me I would
just, I like to remind you.
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And you're
doming. I'm just saying.
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Exactly, exactly.
How incredible is that?
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It was amazing and what
was really fun for me was--
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After year do you
believe the trumpets are played?
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I mean, there's all,
all of that is so huge.
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Well, and then to
start going into the idea of
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I need to get fit,
right, we need to exercise
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and you talked about
exercise being physical
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and we will get
to this but you know
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we have to exercise
our spirituality as well
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and I think its easy
to forget one of those
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or both of those
or you start doing one
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you forget the
other and you do this one
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and you forget that one,
you get tied up with this.
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It's hard sometimes when
you feel like you have nothing
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to even get yourself
to open up the Bible.
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I mean, it's hard
you know, I'm telling you
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for those people who have
been depressed you understand
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and been in this place you
know, you can't get out of bed.
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You can sleep for 14 hours
and you get up for half hour
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and go get something to eat
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and go right back to
bed sleep for 12 hours.
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You're just tired, you exhausted
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all that stuff going on.
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But was interesting is as
I started to come out of this
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and do it through
exercise, trying to eat well,
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I tried some
antidepressant medication
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and it made me feel
horrible, I-- maybe heavy words
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it was like times so not
doing this because its terrible.
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Yeah, it says depression
on it maybe that means
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if you take it you get
depressed, I don't know.
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You did, you
were horrible on it.
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I was horrible.
So it went away and--
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He forgot how to talk
I mean, it was terrible.
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And my mom had sent me
something which is really cool,
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I love how you get
messages from different places
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and God will talk to
you through different people
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and different things if
you just have your eyes open.
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She sent me a book about
depression general overview
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and at the end it says
oh, 30 to 60 minutes of
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vigorous exercise daily can
be as effective as any medicine.
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You know, and so I
thought okay, I'm gonna do that.
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And so what was interesting
was to get my way worked
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out of that and understand that
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exercising now is
part of my daily life
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and the things I
have to do regularly.
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It's really curious to find
out because I know maintenance
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right,
maintaining what we do is,
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and so I have to
maintain exercise,
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I need to maintain
my time in the word
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and so that you know,
God can be talking to me
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and guiding me with all that.
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It's really interesting
with physical exercise
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if I stop doing something
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how quickly I can
see it in my muscle.
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And so you know, I wish
we could do that spiritually
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'cause we can't and you
know, it's like all of a sudden
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the devil kind of puts a little
fear there, little doubt there
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and little
anger here or whatever
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and God says daily you
got to stay in touch with Me
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'cause just like
your physical exercise
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there's daily changes that
happen when you let this go.
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Yeah, and so it was
fun, it was fun was knowing
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that maintenance was
about what we're doing,
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yes, of course, I was
trying to be prepared for today
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and so I had a chance to do
little bit of study coming over
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and stuff and it was
really the fun to find out
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and I found this
generalities within
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what God's asking
for us, it's just kind of
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an Old Testament
concept about maintenance
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and a New Testament
concept about maintenance.
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But I love this one in Solomon
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He talks about asking
God to maintain their coast
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God is maintaining
us in the Old Testament
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and I love this
one where it says
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when they are
battling their enemies, amen
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our addictions or depressions
or whatever it is, or fears,
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whatever it may be to maintain
their cause after their sin
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and returning to
Him, right, so we repent
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and we say you know, I'm so good
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and you know, its
like maintain their cause
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or maintain, just
help maintain them.
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And then God will maintain it.
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I love when you
said that the first time.
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Yeah, and then
give them each day
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what they require
for that day which again
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with that daily maintenance
is about that whole thing.
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And so I just, when
I read that I thought,
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oh, how cool is that
because that's what I need,
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I need the daily
thing in my darkest hour
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You will maintain me
when I stumble to stand backup
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You are still there
for me and then everyday
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You'll give me what I
need which is really cool.
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And you're doing
that and I love the fact
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I'm watching you do that
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with some pretty serious
things coming down the pike.
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You know, so you know,
like, you were talking about
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you know, what happens when
we have cancer or Parkinson's
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or all of the
sudden something changes
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I don't have control over this,
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I may or may not
have healing here
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'cause only God knows
that and I trust Him with that,
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but as we head down
those things who am I?
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Where is my identity?
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'Cause now it's so clear
that your identity is in God.
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Is in God. Yeah.
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And standing next
to you in ministry
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and what does that called
for, it's really pretty amazing.
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So, so I don't
know how many people
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are familiar with
this and what this is?
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That was a funniest story ever.
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This is it, this
is it, so I, you know,
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I'm doing little better in stuff
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and I just called to
see what you're doing
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and I say, oh, hey,
baby, what are you doing?
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I'm traveling. No, you're not.
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You said, oh, I'm
at the store, shopping.
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And my response
was, oh, make sure
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you buy your
husband a lovely gift.
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I mean, isn't that
what you would say,
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right, if your wife is shopping.
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That's it and he's
never said that. Its 25 years.
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Twenty five years, I
believe you don't say that.
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And he said that this day.
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And so she
happens to be at a store
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that features
kitchen and bath items.
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Yeah.
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And so she's
walking around, okay,
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I'm supposed to
buy him a lovely gift.
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What in the world
am I gonna get him here
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and she's walking around
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and there's a
stack of shake weights--
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Let me just tell this part
and then I get back to you.
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So I'm walking around and I
see this stack of shake weight
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and they are just ridiculous,
when they first came out they,
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people made jokes about
them, they're so ridiculous.
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And God says, get him that.
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And I thought, oh,
that's got to be a joke,
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there's no way, you know.
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So I walked away tried
to find something else,
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God brought me back and He
said, no, no, get him that.
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And finally I thought,
okay, because I felt it was
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so clearly from God,
so I bought him that,
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put it on the kitchen
table when I got home.
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Brad comes down--
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I come downstairs in the
morning and there's like,
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there's like shake weight
on a table and I'm like, what?
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That is the most ridiculous
thing, I mean, I can't, I can't
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this was like the laughing
stock of the exercise world.
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I mean, what in--
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Didn't so because
people made fun of it so much.
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Yeah, that's why you
see them for you know,
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three dollars on
the discount table
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you know, and all
that kind of stuff.
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What in the world would
I possibly do with this?
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Okay, I'm trying hard
to connect emotionally
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with my wife, she
brought me this thing,
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if I don't take
it out of the box
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I'm gonna be in big trouble.
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So I take it out of the
box and I grab it with my hands
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and I put it like this
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and what
position are my hands in,
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you could take the shake weight
out and put what in my hands?
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A trumpet. A trumpet.
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And so I started going like
this and I realized this thing
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is working the entire
skeletal muscular structure
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that has been shaking like crazy
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every time I pick up my trumpet.
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And so if I start
doing this everyday
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I'm gonna be
working all those muscles,
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they're gonna get stronger,
they're gonna get more powerful
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they're not gonna shake
because they're being used
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and used in a proper way.
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And it is the most amazing gift.
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You do it
everyday? I do it everyday.
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And you know it's from
God, I mean, both of us realized
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when you picked it up
and I saw that your hands
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were in the form of
trumpet, I wanted to say
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can I grab God and
kiss Him on the face.
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How does He do that?
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I know, it's amazing, it's
amazing to try and figure out
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how does He know
those kinds of things.
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And so that, you know that--
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And it is His love
for us so personal.
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Oh, it's just, it's
absolutely unbelievable.
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And so that
part really you know,
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is looking at those
steps about maintaining
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what's it take
and that maintenance
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you know, to me it's
like I start to understand
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that the idea of one
exercising and this is real care
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and this has been
coming to me a lot lately
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so I have a chance
to say it right now.
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You know, we get so caught up,
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oh, I have to
spend time in worship
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and I have to
spend time on my job
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and I have to spend time here.
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We believe that
our body is the temple,
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you know, that we
have this connection
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that really our spirituality
00:14:45.30\00:14:48.09
and our physical being
are completely intervolving.
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And yet, somehow for many of
us the physical side of our--
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Journey.
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Journey gets left really till,
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way late till at the
end of the day or whatever,
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I don't really have
time, I don't have this.
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And I'm back to this in my mind
00:15:04.72\00:15:06.47
and its coming
more clear all the time.
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If we get
ourselves physically fit
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we can
communicate with God better,
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we can do whatever job it is
00:15:13.24\00:15:14.71
and whatever job that is
you're gonna do it better,
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you're gonna be able to
relate to your spouse better,
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your gonna be able
to all this stuff better
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and its just, its we've
really lost sight of that
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and if we
believe that connection,
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our spiritual
connection really isn't tied
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into what we do physically.
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Well, you know, you
even, as you say that
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what's really
interesting is for some people
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they know that I just
diagnosed with Celiacs disease
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and they literally
removed all of my guts
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and then put them
back in to tell me that--
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I know, I was there. I
know its so ridiculous.
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But you know, so
even now I don't realize
00:15:46.69\00:15:49.50
that even what we eat
really effects our entire body
00:15:49.53\00:15:54.01
and as much as I've tried
to resist that all my life,
00:15:54.04\00:15:57.31
because I just not that
disciplined as that exercise
00:15:57.34\00:16:00.14
and what we eat
and drinking water
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and laughing out
loud with our families,
00:16:02.22\00:16:04.65
like its
important to do those things
00:16:04.68\00:16:06.48
as important as
anything else we do.
00:16:06.51\00:16:09.54
And so if we're
gonna maintain our recovery
00:16:09.57\00:16:11.45
and we start to let those
things go we're in trouble.
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We're in trouble. We
really are in trouble.
00:16:14.31\00:16:15.73
Yeah, and it's
interesting I think in our youth
00:16:15.76\00:16:19.46
were probably were able
the resilient seed of our youth
00:16:19.49\00:16:23.02
allows us to get
away with a lot of things.
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But as we chronologically
advance in life--
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I like the way
you say that, yes.
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Nicely enough.
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You know, that
suddenly the significance
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and the importance of
the exercise side of it
00:16:36.79\00:16:40.10
and I, is much greater.
00:16:40.13\00:16:42.71
I mean, it's just, it's
absolutely moving forward.
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I'm convinced,
you know, that we need
00:16:45.49\00:16:47.89
to continue her
growth both in the word
00:16:47.92\00:16:50.27
but then that the idea
of being physically fit
00:16:50.30\00:16:52.92
and choosing the right
foods and all that stuff
00:16:52.95\00:16:55.56
and it's really
interesting 'cause generally
00:16:55.59\00:16:57.74
we've had a pretty healthy diet
00:16:57.77\00:16:59.01
but now with the
Celiacs all of a sudden
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its taken to another
level and you really can't cheat
00:17:00.73\00:17:04.65
'cause when you
cheat you open a door--
00:17:04.68\00:17:06.14
Oh, you know
what, I'm gonna open
00:17:06.17\00:17:07.32
that for questions but
I'm mad at you. Are you?
00:17:07.35\00:17:09.48
And I'm gonna say it on
television because I can.
00:17:09.51\00:17:12.95
Is that I have Celiacs
00:17:12.98\00:17:14.98
and I supposed to be
really careful, right.
00:17:15.01\00:17:16.99
And we go into a
restaurant and I'm thinking
00:17:17.02\00:17:18.79
I'm so cheating
and cheating to me,
00:17:18.82\00:17:21.33
now that is meant I'm going
to have a vegetarian burrito
00:17:21.36\00:17:25.68
with a flour tortilla.
00:17:25.71\00:17:27.39
I mean, that's like cheating.
00:17:27.42\00:17:28.79
And so everything is good
except I have a flour tortilla,
00:17:28.82\00:17:31.33
Brad's like, you're
so not gonna have that.
00:17:31.36\00:17:33.44
I'm gonna have that. He
walks out of the restaurant.
00:17:33.47\00:17:36.51
And I'm thinking
I'm still having it
00:17:36.54\00:17:38.19
and I was sicker than
a dog for like a week.
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So I shouldn't have had
it but all of that matters
00:17:40.54\00:17:43.27
and so we don't get nailed
with things like, we don't,
00:17:43.30\00:17:47.42
not do our devotions and
then get sick for a week.
00:17:47.45\00:17:49.56
We don't, not
exercising get sick for a week.
00:17:49.59\00:17:52.01
Some of us deal
with our diseases
00:17:52.04\00:17:54.40
but man, God says you know what,
00:17:54.43\00:17:56.35
in a spiritual sense you do
take yourself out for a while.
00:17:56.38\00:18:00.11
And so if we're
gonna maintain a recovery,
00:18:00.14\00:18:01.88
let's maintain a
recovery and be smart about it
00:18:01.91\00:18:04.81
'cause everything matters
and it's so cool when you say,
00:18:04.84\00:18:07.74
you know, what, I'm gonna
actually take care of myself.
00:18:07.77\00:18:11.38
I'm gonna help
God along with this.
00:18:11.41\00:18:13.66
I mean, I open up
for questions if they,
00:18:13.69\00:18:15.87
my client now,
you had a question.
00:18:15.90\00:18:18.00
Yeah, I can really
relate to what you're saying,
00:18:18.03\00:18:20.45
being a musician myself, I
play the piano a little bit
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and just
wondering when you'd mention
00:18:23.13\00:18:26.24
the you were like
250 pounds or something,
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at one time what
kind of a program
00:18:29.64\00:18:31.93
did you use to help
bring the weight down?
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Well, this is I think it's funny
00:18:36.02\00:18:37.63
because when you ride a bicycle
00:18:37.66\00:18:39.89
and that kind of thing,
you have to get the stuff
00:18:39.92\00:18:41.58
that goes with it, right.
00:18:41.61\00:18:42.71
And the first thing
is Spandex bike shorts.
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You do look really adorable.
00:18:45.97\00:18:47.59
Oh, yeah, but this is,
you know, so we're walking
00:18:47.62\00:18:49.35
and we have a shop
that we're getting our stuff
00:18:49.38\00:18:51.14
and you know, he gets me a pair
and I go in the dressing room
00:18:51.17\00:18:53.65
when I put them on and all
they could hear from outside
00:18:53.68\00:18:56.35
and the thing is
I'm fat, really aloud.
00:18:56.38\00:19:01.76
And so I really,
it's funny I mean,
00:19:01.79\00:19:05.59
calories in and
calories out, right.
00:19:05.62\00:19:07.02
So if you start
exercising and you get hungry
00:19:07.05\00:19:09.23
and you eat a bunch more food
your weight may not go down.
00:19:09.26\00:19:12.39
So its really about, really
trying to make good choices
00:19:12.42\00:19:14.71
about what I ate, how much
I ate, when I ate it you know,
00:19:14.74\00:19:18.43
and then starting to
increase the exercise side of it
00:19:18.46\00:19:21.37
and you know, I mean,
its continued to come off
00:19:21.40\00:19:24.28
which has been
great, it wasn't you know,
00:19:24.31\00:19:25.82
didn't like just
boom all of a sudden.
00:19:25.85\00:19:27.91
It wasn't the speed weight
loss but overtime its comedown
00:19:27.94\00:19:30.74
and its
continuing to go down so--
00:19:30.77\00:19:32.51
And you're
looking pretty adorable.
00:19:32.54\00:19:33.92
Oh, well, thank you.
00:19:33.95\00:19:35.01
You're welcome. Thank you.
00:19:35.04\00:19:36.56
What's really fun I
think about all that is
00:19:36.59\00:19:38.51
that the exercise
really changes everything
00:19:38.54\00:19:41.67
not so much just even the weight
00:19:41.70\00:19:43.83
but how hard you laugh
00:19:43.86\00:19:45.92
and the things
that you want to do
00:19:45.95\00:19:48.61
and the energy that you
have to do those things.
00:19:48.64\00:19:50.39
So there's so many changes
00:19:50.42\00:19:51.86
that happen that are beneficial.
00:19:51.89\00:19:53.88
On the things that I
don't want to add to that too,
00:19:53.91\00:19:55.70
is generally speaking you're
doing it with some other people
00:19:55.73\00:20:00.29
and they're laughing with you,
00:20:00.32\00:20:01.94
I mean that kind of
stuff they're really,
00:20:01.97\00:20:03.73
it's hard to find people
00:20:03.76\00:20:04.98
who are trying to get healthy
that generally are grumpy.
00:20:05.01\00:20:08.39
Yeah, there's a
cool factor when you have
00:20:08.42\00:20:10.53
spend extra
time on a bike though
00:20:10.56\00:20:12.64
you look really cool when
the bike is right next to you
00:20:12.67\00:20:14.77
for every foot away
from the bike you get
00:20:14.80\00:20:16.82
the less call you get, so
you do have to watch that.
00:20:16.85\00:20:20.42
You got to watch
it with this one.
00:20:20.45\00:20:21.51
Okay, any other
questions? Yes, go ahead.
00:20:21.54\00:20:23.55
Hi, my name is Shedria and
I had a bit of a health scare
00:20:23.58\00:20:27.27
when I was
expecting my second child
00:20:27.30\00:20:30.57
with this blazer on my cervix
and I was trying to figure out
00:20:30.60\00:20:36.01
you know, with husband
having a health message,
00:20:36.04\00:20:40.34
you have the extreme over
here and extreme over here
00:20:40.37\00:20:43.39
and this is kind of
difficult to find the mystery
00:20:43.42\00:20:46.55
and one person is telling you,
well, don't go to the doctors
00:20:46.58\00:20:50.28
just pray, just pray
and God will deliver you.
00:20:50.31\00:20:52.88
And other people are telling
you, well, you need to go
00:20:52.91\00:20:55.47
to the doctor you need
to get all things prescribed
00:20:55.50\00:20:58.09
for whatever they're giving you
00:20:58.12\00:21:00.35
and I want to find a
healthy medial in the mid.
00:21:00.38\00:21:02.77
I want to know how to
have this fear to ask for
00:21:02.80\00:21:06.68
and still trust my doctor.
00:21:06.71\00:21:08.75
Absolutely.
00:21:08.78\00:21:09.90
So what would
you suggest for me?
00:21:09.93\00:21:11.56
You know, I think that's
a really excellent question
00:21:11.59\00:21:14.05
and I believe many
of the modern medicines
00:21:14.08\00:21:19.17
and the skills that have
been given to our surgeons
00:21:19.20\00:21:22.43
and our doctors are nothing
less than a gift from God
00:21:22.46\00:21:25.53
because there's been very,
very clearly documented cases
00:21:25.56\00:21:29.32
that without this
particular treatment,
00:21:29.35\00:21:31.29
this person would
not have survived.
00:21:31.32\00:21:32.79
For example the bike
rides at the Leukemia Society,
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okay, that research
has funded medicines one
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that get's called Tromoxasiler
something like that,
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that literally five
years ago didn't exist
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but this money
that's been raised
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and they raised
over a billion dollars
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but this money is
raised as funded researchers
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developed this particular
drug for this kind of Leukemia
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that people are alive,
I've suddenly had people
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stand in front of me
say were not for the efforts
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that these people
made I would be dead.
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However, now saying that
is I would like to jump in
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and say for a lot of us
with our lifestyle diseases
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that if we would have done
the right thing over the years,
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not in your
case 'cause your case
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you get here during the
pregnancy and to me man,
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I just want to say
and I will probably
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get calls is
check with your doctor.
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Make sure you
know that you're okay.
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There's a friend of
mine who's an evangelistic
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got Thyroid cancer
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and they went in
and did a innervation
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and he's alive
today because of that.
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So I think that there's
sometimes you just got to check
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and sometimes you've got
to say to yourself right now,
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am I doing the
things that I need to do
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in order to avoid
those lifestyle diseases.
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And some of them are
cancers, heart disease, diabetes
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all that kind of
stuff and like I found out
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with the Celiacs
disease if I would have been
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eating properly I
wouldn't have had the surgery
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and they wouldn't have--
some gay wouldn't have been
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holding my
intestines in his hand.
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You know what I mean?
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Luckily when he went in
there, there was nothing wrong
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and they didn't
have to remove anything
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but its just like I, God
had told me over the years,
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Cheri, please
take care of yourself
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and I said, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, I will.
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And never did and that He said
it gently again, get on a bike,
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do some exercise, get
outside, drink some water,
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eat healthier all
that kind of stuff
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and I think that
I would've avoided
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some things down the pike.
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But there are
times that doctors,
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medicine paying attention
we have some of the most
00:23:29.93\00:23:32.94
incredible medical
facilities on the planet.
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Loma Linda
University and Bangkok hospital
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and Sydney Adventist hospital
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we have some
incredible facilities
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and there are cancer units
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at those facilities
that are to die for.
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Yeah, to take
you right to heaven.
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All right, Brad, we've
just feeling I will say
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there's two things and
though you agree, Brad,
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paying attention to
what you're doing now--
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Absolutely, absolutely
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and I love the term
of the lifestyle diseases
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because we have some people
that we care about very dearly
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and we look at them
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and its like you're
eating yourself to death.
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And why won't my body heal, why
won't this infection go away?
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Well, potato chips
and diet soda, I mean,
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technically that's
vegetarian but you know,
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that is not gonna help your
body recover from many thing.
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So there's a part to
that I don't know if it's okay
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to say the word
common sense you know,
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if you had a broken leg
you would go to some one
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and have them set it
and so there's some things
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and I really believe and now
there's a fine line absolutely,
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you don't want to take
every last possible pill
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or what can I take and you
take all that's just silly.
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.85
But if it's really
clear this is something
00:24:34.88\00:24:37.06
that makes a lot of sense.
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Even there are
people that we love
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and then I have people
from all different religions
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and no religions or
whatever they go to the doctor
00:24:44.09\00:24:46.79
and the doctor give
them four more pills
00:24:46.82\00:24:48.66
to do the side effects from
the two they've already taken
00:24:48.69\00:24:51.27
and so there are people
that we love that you know,
00:24:51.30\00:24:53.78
and we've called
them up and saying,
00:24:53.81\00:24:55.17
please don't take
something else another thing
00:24:55.20\00:24:59.07
and yet but my doctor said.
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So there's sometimes you got
to be really careful with that
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and for you know,
I belong to a church
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and we're health nuts I
mean, we are health nuts
00:25:08.32\00:25:10.71
and I use to hate that but
now I just absolutely love that
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'cause I feel
like my life is richer
00:25:14.17\00:25:18.28
because I take care of it
00:25:18.31\00:25:19.89
and its so it's like a
matter of adding that exercise,
00:25:19.92\00:25:22.83
adding the proper
foods, making sure that
00:25:22.86\00:25:25.76
you don't
disregard the medical field
00:25:25.79\00:25:27.87
when you need it
but man, pay attention
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'cause there's some
things that you can do
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just by grabbing an apple.
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Even within the bike riding
the, I mean, these long rides
00:25:34.82\00:25:38.21
and during this there's
gels and goose and supplements
00:25:38.24\00:25:40.67
and this and that and so
there's a competitive cyclist
00:25:40.70\00:25:44.13
to use the contemporary
of Lance Armstrong's
00:25:44.16\00:25:46.68
and so he's at
that level of riding
00:25:46.71\00:25:48.27
that's decided
can't we just eat food?
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You know there's
have to be this conclusion
00:25:51.16\00:25:52.93
or something somebody
have made a goo or gel
00:25:52.96\00:25:54.88
or this or powder or
you mix it with that.
00:25:54.91\00:25:56.92
And so he hired two
chefs and these guys want
00:25:56.95\00:26:00.06
to developing a
whole food program,
00:26:00.09\00:26:03.07
it's not
Adventist I'm gonna say that
00:26:03.10\00:26:04.67
but it's just eating poor foods.
00:26:04.70\00:26:06.15
So I was able to take
that and adopted to our choices
00:26:06.18\00:26:09.71
for eating on this
200 mile ride that I did
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I was the second
guy to cross the line
00:26:13.66\00:26:15.17
'cause I had
food that fueled me.
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Well, I didn't have to
stop I had good energy,
00:26:16.63\00:26:19.06
I was the
slowest guy in the team
00:26:19.09\00:26:20.36
and I was the second
one to finish to the ride.
00:26:20.39\00:26:22.52
And you know-- He
called me right away.
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Yeah, guess what?
Guess what? So exciting.
00:26:25.93\00:26:29.23
You know, Brad, you're talking
about the different things
00:26:29.26\00:26:32.61
that you've been through lately,
00:26:32.64\00:26:35.20
I would like to come back,
have you come back on the close
00:26:35.23\00:26:38.52
share with us not only
how you got through there
00:26:38.55\00:26:43.29
but how you deal with the
fact that you still probably
00:26:43.32\00:26:45.58
are gonna look at Parkinson's
and different things?
00:26:45.61\00:26:47.93
How did you find your identity
and can you pray with those
00:26:47.96\00:26:51.68
that are struggling with some
really serious physical things
00:26:51.71\00:26:54.35
that may be lost right now.
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Absolutely, I'd
be honored to do so.
00:26:55.62\00:26:56.66
So you know what I'd
like to just say stay tuned.
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This part of it is
really a cool thing
00:26:59.35\00:27:01.07
because sometimes the
diseases are gonna be left
00:27:01.10\00:27:03.17
and we're still gonna
look at that kind of stuff
00:27:03.20\00:27:05.31
that how do we do it with joy,
00:27:05.34\00:27:06.91
how do we do it
and know that I'm okay.
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My identity is in Christ
and He is crazy about me.
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We'll be right back.
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