The following program discusses 00:00:01.40\00:00:02.77 sensitive issues related to addictive behavior. 00:00:02.80\00:00:04.97 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:05.00\00:00:06.85 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:06.88\00:00:09.00 Welcome back. 00:00:14.54\00:00:15.91 This whole segment is about grandparent as parents 00:00:15.94\00:00:18.03 and we've talked with Pamela from the Gap Organization. 00:00:18.06\00:00:22.17 We've talked to her and know about the way 00:00:22.20\00:00:23.57 of raising her five grandchildren 00:00:23.60\00:00:25.76 and what was amazing to me is just about everybody 00:00:25.79\00:00:28.19 in the cafe had a connection. 00:00:28.22\00:00:30.26 Is they were raised by a grandparent 00:00:30.29\00:00:32.03 or they were raising some one 00:00:32.06\00:00:33.70 like what I've said right before the break. 00:00:33.73\00:00:35.95 And so you know, Pamela, 00:00:35.98\00:00:37.91 what else do we need to know about this situation. 00:00:37.94\00:00:40.85 Well, this situation is widespread. 00:00:40.88\00:00:44.13 Last year the Pew Foundation 00:00:44.16\00:00:45.88 said that about 2 million children were being raised 00:00:45.91\00:00:48.74 by grandparents who were the primary care takers. 00:00:48.77\00:00:51.26 When I went online and found that stat. 00:00:51.29\00:00:53.63 I knew for sure, we had to do this program. 00:00:53.66\00:00:55.66 Two million children and they think that's a low estimate. 00:00:55.69\00:00:58.19 And that's a low estimate 00:00:58.22\00:00:59.62 because as we talked about before 00:00:59.65\00:01:02.13 many don't talk about the fact 00:01:02.16\00:01:03.71 that they're raising their grandchildren. 00:01:03.74\00:01:05.87 Many of these children are in and out of their life, 00:01:05.90\00:01:09.09 so it's many more at any given time, absolutely. 00:01:09.12\00:01:13.95 I also want you to know that as Ronald said earlier, 00:01:13.98\00:01:17.74 he was raised by grandparents. 00:01:17.77\00:01:19.32 But even the president of United States 00:01:19.35\00:01:21.48 was raised by his grandparents, so. All right. 00:01:21.51\00:01:23.90 So-- and they were not poor. 00:01:23.93\00:01:25.87 They were not poor, absolutely. 00:01:25.90\00:01:27.27 So this is not an economic issue. 00:01:27.30\00:01:28.67 It's not an economic issue at all, absolutely. 00:01:28.70\00:01:32.55 But the issue surrounding grandparents, 00:01:32.58\00:01:34.94 they are complex and they're very emotional 00:01:34.97\00:01:39.44 for the grandparents and the grandchildren. 00:01:39.47\00:01:42.18 The grandparents at any given time 00:01:42.21\00:01:44.78 just make the decision to do it, 00:01:44.81\00:01:46.77 because it's the right thing to do. 00:01:46.80\00:01:48.71 But what I want to say is that, 00:01:48.74\00:01:50.93 we as a community need to understand 00:01:50.96\00:01:54.73 the issues of these families and provide more support. 00:01:54.76\00:01:59.45 Every state is different in terms of the support 00:01:59.48\00:02:03.36 they provide and at what point they intervene. 00:02:03.39\00:02:07.09 I would just encourage people 00:02:07.12\00:02:08.52 to be aware of what their state is doing. 00:02:08.55\00:02:11.04 We're in a State of Missouri 00:02:11.07\00:02:13.64 that only if the kids have gone through the court system 00:02:13.67\00:02:18.53 or have been in DYS or Divisional View Services 00:02:18.56\00:02:22.77 or Department of Mental Health can the grandparents get help? 00:02:22.80\00:02:26.72 Even if the kids are placed 00:02:26.75\00:02:28.85 in the grandparent's home by the state, 00:02:28.88\00:02:32.30 if they don't go through court 00:02:32.33\00:02:33.70 there is really not very much assistance. 00:02:33.73\00:02:35.93 You know I've heard some people 00:02:35.96\00:02:37.33 talk about the assistance was maybe 00:02:37.36\00:02:39.23 a couple of hundred dollars a month. Yes, yes. 00:02:39.26\00:02:40.64 And I am thinking really a couple of hundred a month? 00:02:40.67\00:02:43.43 Yes. It's a couple of hundred a month. 00:02:43.46\00:02:45.48 It's less than what a foster parent would get. 00:02:45.51\00:02:49.63 And I know our big advocacy is that we're saying, 00:02:49.66\00:02:53.38 to give them the same level of support 00:02:53.41\00:02:56.56 and help that you give to foster families. 00:02:56.59\00:02:59.18 Exactly. 00:02:59.21\00:03:00.58 I want to say to you, 00:03:00.61\00:03:02.23 thank you so much for being on the program. 00:03:02.26\00:03:06.20 And I know that, if anybody is out there 00:03:06.23\00:03:10.67 that needs help, needs education, 00:03:10.70\00:03:12.45 needs some kind of encouragement 00:03:12.48\00:03:14.00 that they can call an organization like yours. 00:03:14.03\00:03:16.51 Yes. 00:03:16.54\00:03:17.91 And so how would they get a hold of you online? 00:03:17.94\00:03:20.44 I know that-- that's how I found you. Right. 00:03:20.47\00:03:22.26 Grandparent As Parents online. Support project. 00:03:22.29\00:03:24.89 And so what is really important is that you say something, 00:03:24.92\00:03:29.45 reach out to somebody, 00:03:29.48\00:03:30.86 don't do this on your own and there is lot of times 00:03:30.89\00:03:34.34 that families are gonna be exhausted. 00:03:34.37\00:03:37.11 So if you know of anybody, 00:03:37.14\00:03:39.09 if a family member is trying to do this, 00:03:39.12\00:03:41.16 make sure you take some time and step in. 00:03:41.19\00:03:45.11 Can I have the kids for dinner? 00:03:45.14\00:03:46.67 Can I take them to the beach? 00:03:46.70\00:03:48.85 Can I do anything? 00:03:48.88\00:03:50.25 Can I drop off and bring them to church, 00:03:50.28\00:03:52.23 any of that kind of stuff. 00:03:52.26\00:03:53.63 Know that these are not gonna be easy, kids, 00:03:53.66\00:03:55.30 and don't expect them to be easy, kids, 00:03:55.33\00:03:57.30 you are the answer. 00:03:57.33\00:04:00.26 You know, some times on this program we can-- 00:04:00.29\00:04:03.82 we can put a topic out there and just be a voice for someone. 00:04:03.85\00:04:07.00 But you got to be the hands and the heart of this. 00:04:07.03\00:04:08.86 And so pay attention to who's around you. 00:04:08.89\00:04:11.10 If there's grandparent raising their grandchildren, help out. 00:04:11.13\00:04:13.95 And if you're out their, God bless you. 00:04:13.98\00:04:17.07 I just want to say, thank you for joining us. 00:04:17.10\00:04:19.10 Always remember that God is crazy about you, me too 00:04:19.13\00:04:22.73 and especially if you're out there raising your grandkids. 00:04:22.76\00:04:26.21 We see you and God bless you. 00:04:26.24\00:04:30.07