One of my favorite
scriptures, that's funny because
00:00:13.41\00:00:15.39
I say that about all of
them, I think they all are my
00:00:15.42\00:00:17.76
favorites, but in 2 Corinthians
5:17 it says something
00:00:17.79\00:00:21.73
like therefore anyone in
Christ Jesus, anyone with a
00:00:21.76\00:00:26.15
relationship, anyone who
has called out in the name
00:00:26.18\00:00:29.19
of Jesus to come
and just please help me.
00:00:29.22\00:00:32.91
We are a new creature and
I think the old is passed,
00:00:32.94\00:00:36.63
the new has come.
00:00:36.66\00:00:37.87
God comes in and just changes
so many different things,
00:00:37.90\00:00:42.18
and it even goes
on to say that we are
00:00:42.21\00:00:43.68
ambassadors in Christ.
00:00:43.71\00:00:44.89
As if we were pleading
with people like us to reconcile
00:00:44.92\00:00:48.38
themselves back to God.
00:00:48.41\00:00:50.02
I'm thinking when I
first got into recovery, how
00:00:50.05\00:00:52.96
amazingly cool is that He
can take somebody like myself,
00:00:52.99\00:00:56.42
Sarai, I like you and your
situation, and you call out
00:00:56.45\00:00:59.32
and He is like, you know
what I have been so waiting
00:00:59.35\00:01:02.11
for you to call out
because I love you and I want to
00:01:02.14\00:01:04.33
pour everything into you.
00:01:04.36\00:01:05.94
So I want you to
continue what you are saying.
00:01:05.97\00:01:08.38
We are going to
talk about recovery.
00:01:08.41\00:01:09.90
How did God come in and
just turn all that around?
00:01:09.93\00:01:13.54
Well you know what, the
first thing my sister said
00:01:13.57\00:01:16.66
to me after I gave my
life over to the Lord was,
00:01:16.69\00:01:18.74
Sis you don't get
cleaned up take a bath.
00:01:18.77\00:01:22.04
Cheri: Amen, Amen, you
know you read one of the same
00:01:22.07\00:01:24.74
books that I read, Redeeming
Love, by Francine Rivers.
00:01:24.77\00:01:27.79
Oh my favorite book.
00:01:27.82\00:01:29.03
But in that book is this
prostitute that goes in and
00:01:29.06\00:01:33.48
tries to clean herself and
literally pulls up the rocks
00:01:33.51\00:01:36.13
from the riverbed and
washes her skin to where she's
00:01:36.16\00:01:39.45
bleeding because she
can't get clean enough.
00:01:39.48\00:01:41.30
For most of us when we
come to Christ, like you said,
00:01:41.33\00:01:43.75
it's like how do I
get clean enough - right!
00:01:43.78\00:01:46.69
So I didn't get clean enough
and I wasn't going to try,
00:01:46.72\00:01:48.58
I was a
prostitute, that's what I did.
00:01:48.61\00:01:50.41
So I went back to the
brothel - you got discouraged
00:01:50.44\00:01:53.91
and went back?
00:01:53.94\00:01:54.97
I didn't get discouraged
that's just what I was.
00:01:55.00\00:01:56.49
I was a prostitute is so
after I left, my week was
00:01:56.52\00:02:00.44
over I went back to the brothel.
00:02:00.47\00:02:03.28
I had just picked up the
Bible, I didn't know anything.
00:02:03.31\00:02:06.23
I just knew that Jesus was
now, I believed that He loved
00:02:06.26\00:02:10.52
me, I believe that there
was a God and His name was
00:02:10.55\00:02:14.15
Jesus and that He loved me.
00:02:14.18\00:02:16.23
That is the first time
that I ever felt loved,
00:02:16.26\00:02:18.16
other than that messed
up love I had from my mom.
00:02:18.19\00:02:21.68
So that is my
starting point, alright?
00:02:21.71\00:02:24.79
I went back to the brothel
and I had bought a Bible.
00:02:24.82\00:02:28.30
I have bought an
Amplified Bible - not even
00:02:28.33\00:02:30.29
understanding that somebody
may think that this is odd.
00:02:30.32\00:02:33.56
Sarai: no - I love that,
I guess I love that image
00:02:33.59\00:02:36.87
- it's like my repentance
was not just, I guess I didn't
00:02:36.90\00:02:40.84
see, I saw myself as the victim.
00:02:40.87\00:02:42.88
It was the first time I had
any inkling that maybe I was
00:02:42.91\00:02:47.09
part of the perpetrator,
is when I became a Christian.
00:02:47.12\00:02:50.56
So you have to understand
I didn't see myself that way.
00:02:50.59\00:02:53.37
This was just what I have
become, what choice did I have?
00:02:53.40\00:02:58.03
I had my husband's
approval to be a prostitute,
00:02:58.06\00:03:01.11
he was more than happy about it.
00:03:01.14\00:03:02.58
If things were going
to change it was going
00:03:02.61\00:03:06.65
to have to be God.
00:03:06.68\00:03:07.71
I had my Amplified Bible,
I went back to the brothel
00:03:07.74\00:03:10.30
for two, three days
straight I read my Bible.
00:03:10.33\00:03:14.35
I mean I can just tell
you the Holy Spirit led me.
00:03:14.38\00:03:17.79
I didn't get picked and I
was the highest picked call
00:03:17.82\00:03:21.56
girl, me and one other gal.
00:03:21.59\00:03:23.16
The two hottest
picked girls and for 3 days I
00:03:23.19\00:03:27.05
didn't get picked, I just
read my Bible and the girls
00:03:27.08\00:03:29.18
would say, why are you
bringing that Bible in here?
00:03:29.21\00:03:31.14
Don't you know that's
offensive to us, Gee from what
00:03:31.17\00:03:33.67
I'm reading we're the
ones offensive to God,
00:03:33.70\00:03:35.48
what are you talking about?
00:03:35.51\00:03:36.71
It says right here -
but I'm sitting there with
00:03:36.74\00:03:40.92
my joint, my booze, you
know I'm doing my thing but
00:03:40.95\00:03:44.37
reading the word of
God and God was really
00:03:44.40\00:03:46.70
getting through to me.
00:03:46.73\00:03:47.82
By the end of that 3rd day I
didn't want to do this anymore.
00:03:47.85\00:03:52.12
I was like whoa, wait a
minute this is a choice,
00:03:52.15\00:03:55.87
I have a choice.
00:03:55.90\00:03:57.03
God started pulling back
the curtains, pulling off
00:03:57.06\00:04:00.14
the garb that was over my
eyes and my heart that just
00:04:00.17\00:04:05.20
I had not seen at all.
00:04:05.23\00:04:06.86
So that is really
where the healing began.
00:04:06.89\00:04:09.53
I finally got picked about
a week later and it was a man,
00:04:09.56\00:04:15.90
I took him back and I
was praying the whole time.
00:04:15.93\00:04:17.97
What am I going to do,
what am I and going to do?
00:04:18.00\00:04:19.51
It was like I
don't want to do this.
00:04:19.54\00:04:21.63
Cheri: this is not who I
am anymore - it's not who
00:04:21.66\00:04:24.87
I am, exactly, but I
negotiated, went through the
00:04:24.90\00:04:28.08
negotiations did the
whole thing and everything and
00:04:28.11\00:04:31.37
I'm thinking I can't do
this, but when is it going to
00:04:31.40\00:04:34.61
come that I will have the
guts to say I can't do this?
00:04:34.64\00:04:36.32
We did all the way to the
hot tub and the man asked me,
00:04:36.35\00:04:40.14
so what is your story?
00:04:40.17\00:04:42.64
You know they do that
when they are nervous.
00:04:42.67\00:04:44.93
It was like okay I'm
going to give him the truth,
00:04:44.96\00:04:47.10
I'm going to tell him my story.
00:04:47.13\00:04:48.34
Cheri: no way - I told
him I just become a Christian
00:04:48.37\00:04:50.76
and all of this stuff
and it turns out he was a
00:04:50.79\00:04:53.68
backslidden pastor
- how funny is that?
00:04:53.71\00:04:58.50
He starts quoting the
Psalms that says, where can I
00:04:58.53\00:05:01.93
hide from God, I don't
know from some Psalms or where
00:05:01.96\00:05:05.19
it is but however if you
could go to the depths of Hell
00:05:05.22\00:05:07.67
and I'll still be there,
I'll go anywhere, and he goes,
00:05:07.70\00:05:10.47
this is unbelievable.
00:05:10.50\00:05:11.68
This is unbelievable and
he goes, you need to leave,
00:05:11.71\00:05:14.05
you need to leave this place.
00:05:14.08\00:05:15.85
Cheri: did you turn around
and say can you come with me?
00:05:15.88\00:05:18.86
No, I didn't, I said
would you pray with me?
00:05:18.89\00:05:20.98
And there we were on the
floor in my room and we were
00:05:21.01\00:05:24.21
praying and he left without
a word and paid the money.
00:05:24.24\00:05:27.00
Nothing, I mean
nothing happened.
00:05:27.03\00:05:28.94
But he goes, God has an
incredible plan for your life.
00:05:28.97\00:05:32.16
He left and later that
night this man comes in.
00:05:32.19\00:05:36.79
He was bald from head
to toe, had tattoos and
00:05:36.82\00:05:39.17
I'm telling you to me he
represented Satan himself.
00:05:39.20\00:05:41.93
I got picked and I said
I can't do this and I went
00:05:41.96\00:05:45.88
to my boss, and
said I can't do this.
00:05:45.91\00:05:47.70
This is it, and the
Lord said it's now or never!
00:05:47.73\00:05:50.05
What are you going to do?
00:05:50.08\00:05:52.03
The guy says that you will
never work here again, I will
00:05:52.06\00:05:54.02
call your husband and
make sure he kills you.
00:05:54.05\00:05:55.38
You know typical because
they don't want you to leave
00:05:55.41\00:05:58.79
the business and
making money for them.
00:05:58.82\00:06:00.42
It was like, you
know what I don't care!
00:06:00.45\00:06:03.20
If my life is in Christ I
don't care, kill me I'm ready.
00:06:03.23\00:06:06.93
I walked out the
door and I was done.
00:06:06.96\00:06:10.21
I went back to my sisters,
and you have to understand
00:06:10.24\00:06:16.31
everybody please bear with me.
00:06:16.34\00:06:18.00
I can't give chronological
perfect memory of everything,
00:06:18.03\00:06:24.19
I can give what I remember
because it is so chopped up
00:06:24.22\00:06:27.08
and so scattered so I may
fill in the blanks but its not,
00:06:27.11\00:06:30.22
there is no
exaggeration on purpose.
00:06:30.25\00:06:32.32
I know that I went
to live with my sister.
00:06:32.35\00:06:36.24
She found me a small little
duplex and I waitress at Denny's
00:06:36.27\00:06:39.80
Started go to church at 6 AM
and was at the church whenever
00:06:39.83\00:06:43.62
the doors were
open, if I wasn't at work.
00:06:43.65\00:06:45.43
I was so in love with
God, I was so on fire,
00:06:45.46\00:06:48.57
I was walking on air.
00:06:48.60\00:06:50.89
I am so in love with
Him and I was so, you know
00:06:50.92\00:06:56.02
there are people that
have incredible life because
00:06:56.05\00:06:59.69
their parents love them,
they are raised in a good
00:06:59.72\00:07:01.90
Christian family, I
wouldn't trade what I went
00:07:01.93\00:07:04.14
through for anything,
because most of them don't
00:07:04.17\00:07:06.71
know Jesus like I know Jesus.
00:07:06.74\00:07:08.38
You know it reminds
me of Magdalene saying
00:07:08.41\00:07:11.05
the same thing, as she
followed Christ the rest of her
00:07:11.08\00:07:13.85
life, because it was so
huge what He had given her,
00:07:13.88\00:07:16.66
and that is what I
am hearing from you.
00:07:16.69\00:07:18.33
It is so huge, it is so big
that He gave you everything,
00:07:18.36\00:07:21.45
not only your life,
because you never had a life.
00:07:21.48\00:07:23.71
He said I'm going to
start all over - He loved me.
00:07:23.74\00:07:26.26
He gave me an identity,
that's something I have never
00:07:26.29\00:07:28.86
had was an identity.
00:07:28.89\00:07:30.61
It wasn't because I had
cried out to Him really.
00:07:30.64\00:07:33.90
It really wasn't
because of anything I did,
00:07:33.93\00:07:35.83
I didn't go
searching for Him, I didn't go
00:07:35.86\00:07:37.29
looking for Him, in my opinion.
00:07:37.32\00:07:39.01
He did it all for me,
He set it up to save me.
00:07:39.04\00:07:43.58
He gave me a life and you
would think I would be really
00:07:43.61\00:07:48.18
grateful and never sin
again, but that didn't happen.
00:07:48.21\00:07:50.11
I ended up meeting a
guy who was just incredible.
00:07:50.14\00:07:53.96
Fell in love with him, but
I ended up falling with him
00:07:53.99\00:08:00.91
in a way because of the
disorders that I had and I
00:08:00.94\00:08:04.72
didn't want to go there,
but I turned him away and
00:08:04.75\00:08:07.44
said you know what.
00:08:07.47\00:08:08.50
I felt like I had
committed spiritual suicide,
00:08:08.53\00:08:11.46
because I blew it, I'd
sinned - sexually active
00:08:11.49\00:08:14.09
and all that kind of
stuff so - just once!
00:08:14.12\00:08:16.24
And I said I love you
with all my heart but I love
00:08:16.27\00:08:18.23
Jesus more and I am out
of here, I can't do this.
00:08:18.26\00:08:20.53
I turned him away and
that was after leading him to
00:08:20.56\00:08:23.18
the Lord and him seeing
how she was in love with Jesus,
00:08:23.21\00:08:26.22
and she showed me Jesus
and a whole new way, but I knew
00:08:26.25\00:08:28.83
that there was something
really messed up with me.
00:08:28.86\00:08:31.21
I was still disassociating,
I was still playing catch
00:08:31.24\00:08:33.97
up and I
couldn't deal with stuff.
00:08:34.00\00:08:35.70
I fell with him and say
you know what I need Jesus.
00:08:35.73\00:08:38.71
Long story short, he
ended up crying over me and
00:08:38.74\00:08:43.14
wasn't able to see the
road when he was driving and
00:08:43.17\00:08:46.30
rolled his car and
was decapitated and died.
00:08:46.33\00:08:49.22
His friend was thrown from
the car and survived enough
00:08:49.25\00:08:55.19
to tell me that the
reason he is dead, is because he
00:08:55.22\00:08:57.39
was crying over you and
I lost it at that point.
00:08:57.42\00:09:02.79
I went in to what is
called a catatonic state, it is
00:09:02.82\00:09:05.91
when you completely shut
down, for those people who do
00:09:05.94\00:09:08.34
not know, you are still
there but you are completely
00:09:08.37\00:09:12.43
nonresponsive to
any stimuli whatsoever.
00:09:12.46\00:09:14.73
Cheri: even to the point,
because I worked in Psych and
00:09:14.76\00:09:16.82
you can take somebody that
is catatonic and move their
00:09:16.85\00:09:18.99
arm in their arm
will stay there for hours.
00:09:19.02\00:09:21.30
I don't know I don't
remember being in that state -
00:09:21.33\00:09:24.23
it's like this plastic, you are
looking at a mannequin almost.
00:09:24.26\00:09:29.03
I was like that for months
and was taken to a Christian
00:09:29.06\00:09:32.43
psychiatric hospital in
that state, it was the final
00:09:32.46\00:09:37.23
thing after the death of
my mom and going through that,
00:09:37.26\00:09:40.02
her suicide and
then now David's death.
00:09:40.05\00:09:43.29
It was what set
me over the edge.
00:09:43.32\00:09:45.85
When I did finally come
to, I had been apparently
00:09:45.88\00:09:50.77
speaking and my therapist
who was assigned to me was
00:09:50.80\00:09:54.42
tape recording
everything that was being said.
00:09:54.45\00:09:56.99
They realized that I had
multiple personality disorder
00:09:57.02\00:10:01.61
by the different voices,
and the different identities
00:10:01.64\00:10:04.20
that were coming out were
being spoken unconsciously.
00:10:04.23\00:10:06.66
That is how I got confronted
with the fact that I had
00:10:06.69\00:10:10.42
it dissociative identity
disorder, that I was multiple
00:10:10.45\00:10:13.44
personality - can I ask
you where did you meet Charlie?
00:10:13.47\00:10:16.35
Where did he come in?
00:10:16.38\00:10:17.52
At the Christian psychiatric
hospital that I was in.
00:10:17.55\00:10:19.54
As an employee or as a patient?
00:10:19.57\00:10:24.03
I was in there is a
patient myself - ah man!
00:10:24.06\00:10:27.22
So she came in with
multiple and you were in...
00:10:27.25\00:10:30.79
I was in for major
depression - okay ouch.
00:10:30.82\00:10:34.31
I was a retired Los Angeles
police officer and faced a
00:10:34.34\00:10:39.51
lot of trauma down there
and then all lot of abandonment
00:10:39.54\00:10:41.81
rejection issues of my own.
00:10:41.84\00:10:43.14
I was in there for
help, because I was suicidal
00:10:43.17\00:10:47.27
myself and then
I met her in there.
00:10:47.30\00:10:50.19
I saw a lot of awful
people on the streets of Los
00:10:50.22\00:10:53.52
Angeles, but I've never
seen anybody as wounded and
00:10:53.55\00:10:56.13
messed up as she was.
00:10:56.16\00:10:57.87
I felt like God put
on my heart pray for her,
00:10:57.90\00:11:02.59
and I started praying for her.
00:11:02.62\00:11:03.65
and then He said I
want you to love her.
00:11:03.68\00:11:04.73
I said love her, you have
to be kidding all I know is
00:11:04.76\00:11:09.08
how to be hurt or
hurt other people.
00:11:09.11\00:11:11.37
He said I want you to love
her, and I said if you want
00:11:11.40\00:11:13.06
me to love her then your
going to have to teach me
00:11:13.09\00:11:14.12
how to love her.
00:11:14.15\00:11:15.18
I then also I saw that
she was so wounded and so
00:11:15.21\00:11:18.23
devastated, and I had been
a Christian for several years
00:11:18.26\00:11:19.77
and in some form of Ministry
as well, and I say God You
00:11:19.80\00:11:23.27
blew this one and I'm pushing
You away I'm her messiah now
00:11:23.30\00:11:26.19
and I'm going to
rescue her and help her.
00:11:26.22\00:11:27.59
That wasn't the best way
to get started, but in spite
00:11:27.62\00:11:30.95
of that she thought I
was a self-righteous cop.
00:11:30.98\00:11:33.50
- well he was, he was
really arrogant, and he was Mr.
00:11:33.53\00:11:36.00
lay pastor and all that
and everything, and the rest
00:11:36.03\00:11:39.21
of us are just really messed
up, broken, wounded people,
00:11:39.24\00:11:41.60
and he acts like I'm just
in here for some depression
00:11:41.63\00:11:44.02
and would keep to himself.
00:11:44.05\00:11:46.26
I'm going to be your
messiah you messed up Jesus I'm
00:11:46.29\00:11:48.21
going to fix her now and
I thought he was arrogant.
00:11:48.24\00:11:50.86
I saw how broken he really was.
00:11:50.89\00:11:53.29
We used to joke because
I thought he was a self-
00:11:53.32\00:11:57.62
righteous pig and he
thought I was a demon possessed
00:11:57.65\00:11:59.79
woman and we were both right.
00:11:59.82\00:12:01.36
And God said I want you
guys to love each other, it was
00:12:01.39\00:12:05.79
like what we don't want to
not only did we not like each
00:12:05.82\00:12:08.95
other, we did not
love each other or nothing.
00:12:08.98\00:12:10.82
I was a rescuer anyway, so
I went right into the rescue
00:12:10.85\00:12:14.49
mode and stopped
working my own self.
00:12:14.52\00:12:17.21
So you're depression
could lift - sure - so you could
00:12:17.24\00:12:18.81
fix yourself - sure, taking
care of someone else again.
00:12:18.84\00:12:20.45
But I did think Lord if
you could take two people as
00:12:20.48\00:12:24.01
wounded and messed up
as the two of us are and
00:12:24.04\00:12:26.56
heal us and mold us
and put us back together,
00:12:26.59\00:12:29.77
then at some point we
could be a real light for You,
00:12:29.80\00:12:33.08
a witness and a testimony.
00:12:33.11\00:12:34.40
And I know I'm jumping
ahead here but that is really
00:12:34.43\00:12:36.45
what He has done.
00:12:36.48\00:12:37.51
He has taken two crushed,
and devastated, broken lives,
00:12:37.54\00:12:40.57
that met in a
Christian psychiatric hospital,
00:12:40.60\00:12:42.49
put us together, and we
have four beautiful boys now
00:12:42.52\00:12:45.52
and are involved in
the full-time lay ministry.
00:12:45.55\00:12:47.64
Only God can do that,
only God can look at both of
00:12:47.67\00:12:52.20
you and say, you know
what is wounded as you are,
00:12:52.23\00:12:54.92
I have a plan in the plan
may seem ridiculous to the
00:12:54.95\00:12:58.41
entire planet, but I am
going to step in and bring
00:12:58.44\00:13:02.88
some healing into your life.
00:13:02.91\00:13:04.23
And He did, He use
Charlie to bring me the demonic
00:13:04.26\00:13:05.89
deliverance that I
needed because we went to
00:13:05.92\00:13:07.48
mega-church after
mega-church seeking demonic
00:13:07.51\00:13:10.52
deliverance for me
because we knew I was possessed.
00:13:10.55\00:13:12.95
We knew I had issues
and God does that slowly,
00:13:12.98\00:13:15.70
I was presented
with all kinds of issues,
00:13:15.73\00:13:17.95
from cutting to
alcoholism still, the drugs,
00:13:17.98\00:13:21.88
all of these different
things, the disassociation.
00:13:21.91\00:13:25.13
I had the religious side
they got saved, but I had
00:13:25.16\00:13:30.60
all this other junk
that needed to be healed too.
00:13:30.63\00:13:32.25
I want to say that, if I
can, for anybody that is out
00:13:32.28\00:13:35.44
there that has been through
any kind of my background,
00:13:35.47\00:13:38.06
that has disassociative
disorders and wants to come to
00:13:38.09\00:13:43.40
the Lord and wants to get
healed to realize that God
00:13:43.43\00:13:46.06
heals slaying
one dragon at a time.
00:13:46.09\00:13:48.49
He does not take the
whole ball of wax and fix it all
00:13:48.52\00:13:50.72
at once it is slowly.
00:13:50.75\00:13:52.49
You have to go through
demonic deliverance for the
00:13:52.52\00:13:55.12
nightmares, you have to
go through deliverance or
00:13:55.15\00:13:58.33
healing, learning to have tools
- the Christian word that most
00:13:58.36\00:14:01.41
people will not
know, what is deliverance,
00:14:01.44\00:14:04.91
what do you mean by that?
00:14:04.94\00:14:06.21
The avenues that you
have opened up, the Bible says
00:14:06.24\00:14:08.00
is sin, if the Bible says
it's sin and you have opened
00:14:08.03\00:14:11.07
up that door and willingly
gone into it, you need to
00:14:11.10\00:14:13.82
say Satan I'm serving
you warning right now.
00:14:13.85\00:14:16.37
I believe what God says,
He is truth, this is what is
00:14:16.40\00:14:18.93
righteous to do and I want
to live His way and I refuse
00:14:18.96\00:14:22.93
to walk in this anymore
in my life and any entrance I
00:14:22.96\00:14:25.51
gave you I'm
telling you I'm done.
00:14:25.54\00:14:27.37
Get out of my life in
Jesus name and then you plead
00:14:27.40\00:14:30.14
the blood of Jesus
and what He did for you,
00:14:30.17\00:14:32.27
and you know what
the demons have to go.
00:14:32.30\00:14:33.99
What is really interesting
to me is I didn't even
00:14:34.02\00:14:37.84
realize that as being
able to say that what Satan
00:14:37.87\00:14:40.97
meant for harm, or
even my mom's rejection,
00:14:41.00\00:14:43.39
I will just want God
to put His blood on that
00:14:43.42\00:14:45.93
and claim that
back in Jesus name.
00:14:45.96\00:14:47.51
And literally say it out
loud so that you just know
00:14:47.54\00:14:50.16
this is a done deal.
00:14:50.19\00:14:51.22
One thing at a time,
one issue at a time as it
00:14:51.25\00:14:53.45
comes up God will heal you.
00:14:53.48\00:14:55.01
He will be faithful, He
is the One who called you
00:14:55.04\00:14:57.22
to begin with - He will
even show you the issue.
00:14:57.25\00:14:59.07
He will even
show you how to do it.
00:14:59.10\00:15:00.29
It has been 18 years,
it's been a rough 18 years,
00:15:00.32\00:15:03.18
but we have always seen
God taking us one step further
00:15:03.21\00:15:07.67
healing and healing so it
is always kept us motivated
00:15:07.70\00:15:09.94
to keep going on and
forward for 18 years now.
00:15:09.97\00:15:12.14
We are more in love all
the time and more caring and
00:15:12.17\00:15:15.32
compassionate and the
character and nature of God is
00:15:15.35\00:15:17.75
developing in the two of us.
00:15:17.78\00:15:19.44
And now where are we
- well now we are in the
00:15:19.47\00:15:21.39
full-time Ministry, real
life television affiliate
00:15:21.42\00:15:25.21
- just 3ABN affiliate
in the United States and
00:15:25.24\00:15:28.95
we get to be on TV.
00:15:28.98\00:15:30.29
We get to do this, we
get to do shows so this
00:15:30.32\00:15:34.23
is where God takes you.
00:15:34.26\00:15:35.32
Cheri: I have been blessed
because I have seen this like
00:15:35.35\00:15:39.50
what you have presented it is
all this kind of darkness, and
00:15:39.53\00:15:42.59
someday I would like to
hear your story Charlie too.
00:15:42.62\00:15:45.41
Because I know that God
has really blessed you in your
00:15:45.44\00:15:48.48
own recovery and your
recovery together, but I have
00:15:48.51\00:15:50.89
been blessed by having
you on the program and I want
00:15:50.92\00:15:52.72
to say thank you
for sharing that.
00:15:52.75\00:15:54.34
Thank you for trusting
God and I want to say God,
00:15:54.37\00:15:57.34
thank you for blessing
this couple and I pray that
00:15:57.37\00:15:59.90
He continues to do that.
00:15:59.93\00:16:01.23
For anybody liked Sarai
was saying, if you are out
00:16:01.26\00:16:05.44
there and wondering how
you do that, is ask God what
00:16:05.47\00:16:08.62
are we working on today,
and don't make it too big.
00:16:08.65\00:16:11.05
What is today, what is it
all about, what am I looking
00:16:11.08\00:16:13.61
at this moment, and come
back because we are going to
00:16:13.64\00:16:18.00
talk a little bit about
that before we end the program
00:16:18.03\00:16:19.94
so see you in a few seconds.
00:16:19.97\00:16:21.15