Hi we are back Celebrating Life In Recovery season 4 00:00:13.72\00:00:18.53 All new shows, real life situations. 00:00:18.56\00:00:21.49 We have looked at some powerful, powerful testimonies, 00:00:21.52\00:00:24.07 giving you snips of in the first half. 00:00:24.10\00:00:26.38 There is more yet to come. 00:00:26.41\00:00:28.08 Christian Berdahl is a great singer, a friend of mine, 00:00:28.11\00:00:32.56 we are going to be sharing studio space not too long 00:00:32.59\00:00:35.38 from now, but I didn't know Cheri, 00:00:35.41\00:00:37.61 that he had a background of abuse. 00:00:37.64\00:00:40.25 And that was real interesting about Christian is that we 00:00:40.28\00:00:43.69 had some cancellations and somebody, a friend of mine 00:00:43.72\00:00:46.33 had just done some Myofascial Release therapy on him. 00:00:46.36\00:00:48.96 So he told her a little bit about his background. 00:00:48.99\00:00:52.14 She said to him, you need to talk with Cheri. 00:00:52.17\00:00:56.01 Then we had the cancellation and he walks in. 00:00:56.04\00:00:58.91 I don't know who he is but I am looking for a testimony 00:00:58.94\00:01:01.13 because we have to fill this seat. 00:01:01.16\00:01:02.43 I am thinking do you have a story and 00:01:02.46\00:01:04.57 he starts talking to me. 00:01:04.60\00:01:05.93 Not only does he have this abuse background, 00:01:05.96\00:01:09.06 but it is very, very intense. 00:01:09.09\00:01:12.18 I don't even know how he, you could feel the Holy Spirit 00:01:12.21\00:01:15.09 on him, you can feel him being such an anointed man of God 00:01:15.12\00:01:18.53 and this abuse almost killed him as a child. 00:01:18.56\00:01:21.63 So as he started to tell his testimony, 00:01:21.66\00:01:24.05 I was like how are you standing? 00:01:24.08\00:01:26.12 He said I am standing in joy with the family. 00:01:26.15\00:01:29.31 I have little boys of my own that I am able to love and 00:01:29.34\00:01:33.63 make sure that nothing like that ever happens to them. 00:01:33.66\00:01:36.72 So he literally comes on and shares that stuff with us. 00:01:36.75\00:01:40.56 Everybody has said the same things as you said, 00:01:40.59\00:01:42.72 I didn't even know anything about that. 00:01:42.75\00:01:45.99 He just walks around and he is incredible, 00:01:46.02\00:01:48.08 and people love him and our blessed by him. 00:01:48.11\00:01:50.33 We also have on this particular roll-in we are going 00:01:50.36\00:01:55.28 to see next is that, once a woman named Alta 00:01:55.31\00:01:59.11 that I went to her church in Oregon. 00:01:59.14\00:02:02.18 I think was Oregon or Grants Pass or something, 00:02:02.21\00:02:04.95 so I went to her church and she was talking. 00:02:04.98\00:02:06.99 She is a church secretary, and I'm not hardly paying 00:02:07.02\00:02:09.68 attention, but all of a sudden she was like well you 00:02:09.71\00:02:12.87 know I had my second affair, and I am like what? 00:02:12.90\00:02:16.62 You just don't hear that from the church secretary. 00:02:16.65\00:02:19.35 So I thinking okay you need to tell me the real deal. 00:02:19.38\00:02:22.10 She is standing next to her husband who adores her. 00:02:22.13\00:02:26.03 Adores her and you can feel that. 00:02:26.06\00:02:28.19 He was, she was married to him on one of the affairs. 00:02:28.22\00:02:33.01 She said one day I was watching your program and 00:02:33.04\00:02:36.69 someone said that she was having an affair, 00:02:36.72\00:02:39.22 has relationship addictions and it's trashed 00:02:39.25\00:02:41.94 her entire life, adolescents all the way through 00:02:41.97\00:02:43.95 college, through 2 marriages. 00:02:43.98\00:02:45.48 She said I was watching your program and there was 00:02:45.51\00:02:48.12 a woman Misti Brochin on and was talking how 00:02:48.15\00:02:51.24 God showed her where some of the damage was and 00:02:51.27\00:02:54.47 she really got victory in her life. 00:02:54.50\00:02:56.15 So she said I knelt down right there and I asked 00:02:56.18\00:02:59.10 God show me. 00:02:59.13\00:03:00.48 He showed her a time when she was being molested, 00:03:00.51\00:03:03.10 she was 3 years old, behind a shed and she said I didn't 00:03:03.13\00:03:07.07 even realize, I knew that I was found naked behind a 00:03:07.10\00:03:09.82 shed at 3, but I didn't know anything more than that. 00:03:09.85\00:03:12.90 God just uncovered, for her, the fact that the molester 00:03:12.93\00:03:16.19 had just walked away and her own mom had just found her. 00:03:16.22\00:03:18.59 She said as soon as I saw that, as soon as I realized 00:03:18.62\00:03:21.59 the sexual damaged for me, the stuff that trashed me started 00:03:21.62\00:03:25.92 then and I acted it out all my life. 00:03:25.95\00:03:28.22 She said that victory changed everything and now 00:03:28.25\00:03:30.72 she is the church secretary at the very church 00:03:30.75\00:03:33.46 that almost disfellowshipped her. 00:03:33.49\00:03:35.41 What is incredible is that this is now second 00:03:37.23\00:03:40.42 generation, this is someone who watched 00:03:40.45\00:03:43.95 Celebrating Life in Recovery and it was an integral 00:03:43.98\00:03:47.31 part of their healing and recovery. 00:03:47.34\00:03:49.09 Now they are on Celebrating Life In Recovery and 00:03:49.12\00:03:51.91 healing someone else, so second-generation 00:03:51.94\00:03:53.54 this is really great. 00:03:53.57\00:03:54.60 I never even thought of that until then. 00:03:54.63\00:03:55.66 But it is real fun because I think if we could do that 00:03:55.69\00:03:59.26 every season how cool would that be. 00:03:59.29\00:04:01.35 To walk with each other through recovery, 00:04:01.38\00:04:04.00 to edify and lift up each other through this process, 00:04:04.03\00:04:07.68 because for a lot of people that are in recovery, 00:04:07.71\00:04:09.92 you know that this outreach keeps me in recovery. 00:04:09.95\00:04:13.23 Be enabled to tell someone and reach out to them. 00:04:13.26\00:04:15.66 The third person you are going to see on this is Matthew Gamble 00:04:15.69\00:04:18.70 He is the real deal, he is funny, he is out blessing 00:04:18.74\00:04:24.57 people, he is out traveling all over the world as an Evangelist. 00:04:24.61\00:04:28.30 He is incredible with youths, but he was a kid that just 00:04:28.34\00:04:33.20 smoked weed and was in rebellion and wanted to be 00:04:33.23\00:04:35.67 Rastafarian and move to Jamaica, you know what I mean? 00:04:35.71\00:04:39.75 He said he went from atheism to agnostic to Adventism. 00:04:39.78\00:04:43.45 I just think his testimony is amazing, so enjoy this 00:04:43.49\00:04:47.12 roll-in with all these 3 folks. 00:04:47.16\00:04:49.37 The 3 of as boys were like little servants, little 00:04:49.41\00:04:53.37 slaves and it was never consistent. 00:04:53.41\00:04:56.59 One thing I love about God is He is consistent. 00:04:56.63\00:04:59.71 I never had any consistency in my life where I could 00:04:59.75\00:05:03.21 come home and do my chores from school. 00:05:03.24\00:05:06.92 We were latch key kids, we let ourselves in, and you are 00:05:06.96\00:05:09.80 home because both my parents worked. 00:05:09.84\00:05:11.11 My step dad and my mom. 00:05:11.14\00:05:12.47 So we have many hours were we were just free to 00:05:12.50\00:05:15.38 do whatever as long our chores were done and 00:05:15.41\00:05:18.26 our homework was done. 00:05:18.29\00:05:19.32 Then you would hear the car door close, my dad's truck 00:05:19.35\00:05:23.37 door and literally there would be ripples of fear that 00:05:23.40\00:05:26.83 would go through your body, because have I done anything 00:05:26.86\00:05:30.25 wrong, had I not, is everything not kept right? 00:05:30.29\00:05:33.45 Have I done everything just right? 00:05:33.48\00:05:35.16 Even if you had you could still be beaten that day. 00:05:35.20\00:05:38.80 When I say beaten I don't mean, oh bad little boy and 00:05:38.84\00:05:42.41 you would get a spanking. 00:05:42.44\00:05:43.50 I'm talking beaten to where, I will spare you all the 00:05:43.54\00:05:47.51 details, but I know what it means to be scourged. 00:05:47.55\00:05:51.59 I mean literally, I had this whole, I will give you a 00:05:51.63\00:05:55.63 quick idea of the mental games. 00:05:55.67\00:05:57.92 I decided I had enough and I was going to run away. 00:05:57.95\00:06:02.09 I was a suicidal kid, a sad kid, a depressed kid. 00:06:02.12\00:06:05.97 We lived through this oppression and yet when we 00:06:06.01\00:06:08.84 were out and about everything was supposed to 00:06:08.88\00:06:11.67 look like it was okay. 00:06:11.71\00:06:13.35 You know you better not say anything or all hell 00:06:13.38\00:06:16.40 will break loose and I believed him because 00:06:16.44\00:06:19.08 I was living in hell already. 00:06:19.11\00:06:21.20 I was involved in the church and there was a man at 00:06:21.24\00:06:25.41 church that again affirmed me, showed attention to me, 00:06:25.44\00:06:29.06 and we were best friends, his family and my family 00:06:29.10\00:06:32.68 best of friends. 00:06:32.71\00:06:34.18 We did a lot of things together in one thing led to 00:06:34.22\00:06:36.41 another and we ended up involved in a relationship together. 00:06:36.44\00:06:39.88 I left my husband for a short time, 3 weeks, but you 00:06:39.92\00:06:43.87 know emotionally I had left for a lot longer than that. 00:06:43.91\00:06:47.89 We got back together, he actually had prayer groups at 00:06:47.93\00:06:51.88 our church praying me home. 00:06:51.91\00:06:54.11 I knew it was the power of God, my husband did that. 00:06:54.15\00:06:56.37 I knew it was the power of God bringing me home. 00:06:56.41\00:06:58.93 And there it is this church down there, Seventh-day 00:06:58.96\00:07:01.44 Adventist, so I called it up on Monday. 00:07:01.48\00:07:03.11 The Lady answers the phone, praise the Lord. 00:07:03.14\00:07:06.51 I said okay, she said, how can I help you? 00:07:06.54\00:07:09.84 I said my name is Matthew and I live in St. Augustine 00:07:09.87\00:07:13.47 and I would like to come. 00:07:13.51\00:07:14.54 Oh that is wonderful we will be here Saturday. 00:07:14.57\00:07:16.26 Come out, I believe it was 11 o'clock. 00:07:16.30\00:07:19.84 So I said fine. 00:07:19.88\00:07:21.06 I show up on this road, I knew the road, 00:07:21.10\00:07:23.22 but I couldn't find the place. 00:07:23.26\00:07:25.27 It is a small little white building, 00:07:25.30\00:07:27.21 and I just couldn't, and there are a couple big churches, 00:07:27.24\00:07:29.17 and a small little building. 00:07:29.21\00:07:31.32 Finally I find it, I come in late and the pastor is 00:07:31.35\00:07:34.74 up at the pulpit, he grabs the side of the pulpit. 00:07:34.78\00:07:38.61 I come through these bar doors that swing in and out, 00:07:38.65\00:07:41.72 that's at the back of this church, I come through and 00:07:41.75\00:07:45.53 push these doors the first thing I realize is I am the 00:07:45.56\00:07:49.31 only colored person in the building. 00:07:49.34\00:07:51.50 This was an all-black church, which I felt like I was 00:07:51.53\00:07:54.72 at home, because I love being in Jamaica and all that. 00:07:54.76\00:07:58.63 These were all Caribbean-based people, then the pastor 00:07:58.66\00:08:02.36 stops from the pulpit and says, we want to praise the 00:08:02.39\00:08:06.05 Lord for sending Matthew to us today. 00:08:06.08\00:08:08.62 My jaw dropped, because I'm like how does this guy, 00:08:08.66\00:08:12.33 I never met this guy in my life, I made one call on 00:08:12.36\00:08:16.00 Monday, how does this guy even know my name? 00:08:16.03\00:08:19.00 I love these testimonies, I love the stories, I love 00:08:19.04\00:08:23.56 the fact that every single person God wants to use. 00:08:23.60\00:08:27.62 So to me coming off the street, homeless for 10 years 00:08:27.65\00:08:31.06 strung out on heroine, teeth missing, illiterate, 00:08:31.10\00:08:34.12 and you think that God can't use someone like that. 00:08:34.15\00:08:37.19 I travel all over the world so I wanted to say to 00:08:37.23\00:08:40.23 everyone I don't care what your issue is, 00:08:40.26\00:08:42.69 I don't care what God pulls you from. 00:08:42.72\00:08:45.08 It is not that I don't care, you know what I mean, 00:08:45.12\00:08:46.56 because I do have a heart. 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A.: sure! 00:08:46.60\00:08:48.22 It is like I know that God has a plan to step you 00:08:48.26\00:08:51.21 out to help someone else. 00:08:51.24\00:08:52.59 There is so many people when somebody says, 00:08:52.63\00:08:55.14 well who do I help? 00:08:55.17\00:08:56.62 I think pick an age, pick an issue, pick a city, 00:08:56.66\00:08:59.68 it doesn't matter because they are everywhere. 00:08:59.71\00:09:02.96 I don't care if I only want to help newborns, 00:09:03.00\00:09:05.71 there's newborns with AIDS, there's newborns with 00:09:05.75\00:09:08.39 medical issues, there are newborns that are abandoned, 00:09:08.43\00:09:11.07 you know what I mean? 00:09:11.10\00:09:12.24 I only want to work with old folks, there's geriatrics, 00:09:12.28\00:09:14.52 there's Alzheimer's, there's medical stuff, there is 00:09:14.55\00:09:16.76 death, there's disease, there's loneliness. 00:09:16.79\00:09:20.95 I mean I only want to work with teenagers, there's 00:09:20.99\00:09:23.38 cutters there's Goth folks, do you know what I mean 00:09:23.42\00:09:25.88 it's like coming out no matter where you come out from. 00:09:25.92\00:09:29.36 God says you stand up and stop letting the devil mess 00:09:29.40\00:09:32.68 with you with your shame, stop letting the devil mess 00:09:32.72\00:09:36.16 with your just not good enough, let that be surrendered 00:09:36.20\00:09:39.56 to God and I will help you to change the community you 00:09:39.60\00:09:42.93 live in, just by being you. 00:09:42.97\00:09:44.49 What is great about these 3 particular testimonies 00:09:44.52\00:09:48.12 is that they each have been able to deal with their 00:09:48.15\00:09:51.79 situations, their histories to the point now where 00:09:51.82\00:09:55.43 they can truly celebrate. 00:09:55.46\00:09:57.89 They can say this is what I was, this is what I am, 00:09:57.93\00:10:00.97 that has prepared me to do this. 00:10:01.01\00:10:03.76 Our camera person here, Ben was talking about Alta, 00:10:03.79\00:10:08.20 how she can go to a restaurant and talk about 00:10:08.24\00:10:10.51 when I was molested. 00:10:10.55\00:10:12.81 And everybody turns, yeah, she's made peace 00:10:12.84\00:10:15.55 with it and God has given her peace with it. 00:10:15.59\00:10:18.23 Christian Berdahl, to come through such horrendous 00:10:18.26\00:10:21.31 let me go back to Alto, what is really interesting is 00:10:21.34\00:10:24.85 after that healing happens, after God start showing her 00:10:24.89\00:10:28.00 some of that kind of stuff, she decides that I need to 00:10:28.03\00:10:31.11 tell my parents. You know! 00:10:31.14\00:10:32.58 She doesn't want to hurt the molester, it is not even 00:10:32.62\00:10:35.18 about revenge on the molester, it is being able to 00:10:35.21\00:10:37.74 get healing in that area for her and for him. 00:10:37.77\00:10:40.58 But she goes back to her mom and dad and sits there 00:10:40.62\00:10:43.17 and all of a sudden everything makes sense, 00:10:43.21\00:10:45.66 of always finding her naked when this person was around. 00:10:45.70\00:10:48.37 Everybody started putting those pieces together, 00:10:48.41\00:10:51.35 but the mom who watched this daughter out of control 00:10:51.38\00:10:54.04 her whole life, this Christian mom who prayed all of a 00:10:54.07\00:10:57.06 sudden saw, instead of this daughter acting out in this 00:10:57.09\00:11:00.18 horrible behavior, she saw a wounded child and she said, 00:11:00.21\00:11:03.26 I am so sorry for what happened. 00:11:03.30\00:11:04.87 So the healing happened in the entire family. 00:11:04.90\00:11:07.54 I thought oh God, I love you. 00:11:07.58\00:11:10.60 Yeah, yeah and her healing was the healing of 00:11:10.63\00:11:13.94 the whole family and that is what you feel doing, 00:11:13.98\00:11:17.22 looking at the first several that we have gone through. 00:11:17.26\00:11:20.62 Everybody is whole now, everybody is ministering now, 00:11:20.66\00:11:23.99 and I like that idea. 00:11:24.02\00:11:25.21 It's not just I am getting by, I'm making it from day to day, 00:11:25.25\00:11:27.28 but I'm celebrating my life in recovery and 00:11:27.31\00:11:29.74 I'm ministering to other people. 00:11:29.77\00:11:31.93 And I am not constantly falling back with temptations. 00:11:31.97\00:11:34.65 You know what I don't wake up and say, oh I hope 00:11:34.69\00:11:37.17 I don't to heroine today. 00:11:37.21\00:11:38.42 Do you know what I mean it's so far. C. A.: I'm glad! 00:11:38.45\00:11:40.82 All of 3ABN I'm sure. 00:11:40.86\00:11:43.27 No, or my family. 00:11:43.30\00:11:45.65 It is so far removed from that, God has walked me to 00:11:45.68\00:11:49.23 the point where I can stand up and say, you know what 00:11:49.26\00:11:52.84 I hope my speech is honest today, I hope that I stand 00:11:52.88\00:11:57.11 in joy and integrity, I hope that I don't miss what 00:11:57.15\00:12:01.35 God is doing today. 00:12:01.39\00:12:02.50 Instead of I hope I don't smoke, you know that still 00:12:02.54\00:12:05.06 comes up for me once in awhile. 00:12:05.10\00:12:06.26 A smoker will walk by, cause I smoked for so long I 00:12:06.29\00:12:09.48 think could you just hand me one of those? 00:12:09.52\00:12:11.86 No, I can't say never tempted, but it's like the 00:12:11.90\00:12:15.98 temptations are so different so when I get to minister 00:12:16.02\00:12:18.92 to someone else, when any of these folks get to minister 00:12:18.96\00:12:21.73 to someone else there is hope that says you will not 00:12:21.77\00:12:24.51 struggle with this the rest of your life. 00:12:24.54\00:12:26.50 Because you are beyond that and these people are 00:12:26.53\00:12:29.28 beyond that and are giving back. 00:12:29.31\00:12:35.05 Matt Gamble what a cool guy and the idea that Ministry 00:12:35.09\00:12:39.29 has many stripes, many colors, many forms, many ways 00:12:39.33\00:12:42.69 to minister, particularly those who are downtrodden. 00:12:42.73\00:12:45.82 Who may not want the straight up Bible study kind of 00:12:45.85\00:12:48.91 a thing, we've got to come another way, 00:12:48.94\00:12:50.53 and Matt Gamble does that. 00:12:50.56\00:12:52.21 He is so hip in doing that. 00:12:52.24\00:12:53.82 One of the things that everybody covered in this 00:12:53.86\00:12:56.65 program, every single story, every single testimony, 00:12:56.69\00:12:59.90 every single aspect, every single victory you will 00:12:59.93\00:13:03.11 hear on the program says that eventually 00:13:03.14\00:13:05.93 they opened up the word of God. 00:13:05.97\00:13:07.74 So we are talking about prayer and we are going to get 00:13:07.78\00:13:10.04 back to that, were talking about prayer were talking 00:13:10.08\00:13:12.40 about communicating with God but to open up the word. 00:13:12.44\00:13:14.73 If you don't have the Bible, get one. 00:13:14.76\00:13:17.16 If you really don't have one, and don't know how to 00:13:17.20\00:13:19.64 get one, call us! 00:13:19.67\00:13:21.19 I'm telling you call us. we'll find you a Bible. 00:13:21.22\00:13:23.23 We will find you a Bible but it is opening up the word 00:13:23.27\00:13:25.67 of God, understanding who He is, understanding who we 00:13:25.71\00:13:28.08 are in Him, and understanding the promises. 00:13:28.11\00:13:30.14 Because when the promises says I will give you a new 00:13:30.17\00:13:32.29 mind and a new heart and I will restore in you 00:13:32.33\00:13:35.01 everything that was taken from you. 00:13:35.04\00:13:36.19 That you are the delight of my life, you are the apple 00:13:36.22\00:13:39.40 of my eye, you are after my own heart, but God says all 00:13:39.43\00:13:42.08 the sudden I can stand up in Christ knowing that I have 00:13:42.11\00:13:44.73 lied to myself my whole life, that I am nothing. 00:13:44.76\00:13:48.44 God says, you are created by Me, and I love you. 00:13:48.48\00:13:52.32 So we are everything and not everything in our junk, 00:13:52.35\00:13:56.16 not everything in our vanity put everything 00:13:56.20\00:13:57.81 in the eyes of God. 00:13:57.85\00:13:59.04 This whole thing has stopped, whole creation all of 00:13:59.08\00:14:02.71 heaven has stopped just for our recovery, 00:14:02.75\00:14:04.73 just for our restoration, and God says don't 00:14:04.77\00:14:06.71 let anyone tell you are nothing. 00:14:06.75\00:14:08.52 You are everything to me step into recovery, trust Me. 00:14:08.55\00:14:11.23 The next roll-in I want to share with you is very fun. 00:14:11.27\00:14:14.05 Some friends of mine did a program called Girls Night 00:14:14.09\00:14:17.41 Out, they came back and talked about further recovery. 00:14:17.44\00:14:21.28 Because You know somebody says, I recover and just a I 00:14:21.32\00:14:25.12 do it once and it's done, isn't that funny? 00:14:25.16\00:14:29.59 Who told them that? 00:14:29.62\00:14:31.06 Because I hope I am not telling them that. 00:14:31.09\00:14:33.32 I think not and life's not saying that either 00:14:33.35\00:14:35.54 Cheri: exactly! 00:14:35.57\00:14:36.60 Certainly not, certainly not! 00:14:36.63\00:14:37.66 As we get hit with different things, as God unfolds 00:14:37.69\00:14:39.70 different parts of our character, 00:14:39.74\00:14:41.21 He is real gentle with us. 00:14:41.25\00:14:42.28 He will go as fast as we can to let go the stuff. 00:14:42.31\00:14:45.32 We can do it all in a moment, God is so right there 00:14:45.36\00:14:48.39 with us, but most of us can't. 00:14:48.43\00:14:50.28 She is going to talk about further recovery. 00:14:50.32\00:14:52.01 There are a number of girls that on that, Cheri and Joleen 00:14:52.04\00:14:55.35 talking about their recovery which is fun. 00:14:55.38\00:14:57.15 The next one I want to show you is Sarai and Charlie, 00:14:57.18\00:15:01.07 they are amazing they work for Better Life TV. 00:15:01.11\00:15:03.45 They have a Ministry that is unbelievable, she was a 00:15:03.49\00:15:05.81 multiple personality disorder, satanic worship. 00:15:05.84\00:15:09.98 she was growing up, not her but as a tiny baby 00:15:10.01\00:15:14.11 and her family was all out to lunch. 00:15:14.15\00:15:15.74 How did she come through that, how did she integrate 00:15:15.77\00:15:19.50 it with her mental disorder, and now she has a family 00:15:19.53\00:15:23.16 and Ministry of her own that God has His hand on. 00:15:23.20\00:15:26.79 Then the last one is Rick and Barbara Wise. 00:15:26.83\00:15:30.13 They are just amazing, Wide Stretch Ministries. 00:15:30.16\00:15:34.92 She, C. A., her father laughed, she was very 00:15:34.95\00:15:39.11 destroyed by that but decided to over achieve. 00:15:39.15\00:15:42.40 She was in college looking at a career and doing 00:15:42.44\00:15:45.63 everything right and she is a little sexually active, 00:15:45.66\00:15:49.22 you know 19, she slept with someone and a few more. 00:15:49.26\00:15:52.39 She always felt bad and she came back to Christianity, 00:15:52.43\00:15:55.36 fell a few times, but it was just like she was back 00:15:55.40\00:15:58.29 and forth on trying to do the right thing. 00:15:58.33\00:16:00.16 Marries this guy, or falls in love with this guy, 00:16:00.20\00:16:03.48 a virgin, abstinent, wants to do the right thing and 00:16:03.52\00:16:06.77 ends up getting tested, 00:16:06.80\00:16:09.47 only because she is going to the doctor to get a clean 00:16:09.50\00:16:12.14 bill of health, because she wants him to know that I've 00:16:12.17\00:16:14.77 changed my life. 00:16:14.81\00:16:15.84 I'm kind of like a Virgin now because I have 00:16:15.87\00:16:18.39 surrendered to God, and finds out that she has AIDS. 00:16:18.42\00:16:20.81 Yeah, powerful, powerful! 00:16:20.85\00:16:22.41 This last group in here of Charlie and Sarai Romani, 00:16:22.45\00:16:27.22 I have met them just recently, 00:16:27.25\00:16:29.05 what a Godly, wonderful couple. 00:16:29.09\00:16:30.82 You would never know that they had the backgrounds that they do 00:16:30.85\00:16:34.88 It is a testament to the ability of God to clean you up. 00:16:34.92\00:16:38.65 And Matt, in a psychiatric hospital. C. A.: yeah, yeah! 00:16:38.68\00:16:42.38 Both crazy as anything. yeah, yeah! 00:16:42.41\00:16:44.55 Both struggling with all kinds of stuff, and I'm thinking 00:16:44.58\00:16:47.37 only God can take a couple in a psychiatric hospital, 00:16:47.41\00:16:50.38 and say you guys from across the room, gaze at each other 00:16:50.41\00:16:53.35 because this is your mate. 00:16:53.39\00:16:54.88 Right! Cheri: And I'm going to bless you. 00:16:54.92\00:16:57.84 Yeah, and give you a worldwide Ministry, 00:16:57.88\00:17:00.11 and they are doing such a fabulous job. 00:17:00.15\00:17:03.31 And I met their children, Jordan, their son 00:17:03.35\00:17:06.48 just stole my heart. 00:17:06.52\00:17:08.13 I worked with him at his school, and I worked 00:17:08.16\00:17:10.55 with him here, stole my heart and incredible. 00:17:10.59\00:17:12.91 So that whole generational break with these 2 people, 00:17:12.94\00:17:15.58 because God stepped in. C. A.: yeah! 00:17:15.61\00:17:17.77 Yeah, of all places. 00:17:17.81\00:17:18.84 Imagine meeting in a psychiatric hospital? 00:17:18.87\00:17:21.65 Exactly, enjoy this I'm thrilled besides God. 00:17:21.68\00:17:24.39 You see your mother as what was going on with her, 00:17:24.43\00:17:27.51 or what was going with your father, or whoever wounded 00:17:27.55\00:17:30.56 you, you could see their wounds and so you do not blame them. 00:17:30.60\00:17:33.57 But He showed me, when it began to pray this, that my 00:17:33.61\00:17:36.91 father was being very, very abusive with me one day. 00:17:36.94\00:17:40.28 I was probably 4 years old, and I had turned to my 00:17:40.31\00:17:43.62 mother to help me and she was laughing. 00:17:43.65\00:17:46.28 Now I don't know that she was laughing at me, but in my 00:17:46.31\00:17:49.66 4- year-old mind that is what I perceived. 00:17:49.69\00:17:51.93 I was being traumatized and it crushed me. 00:17:51.97\00:17:54.14 Jesus took me back there and said, look what happened 00:17:54.17\00:17:57.51 and that day, and I remembered this already it wasn't 00:17:57.54\00:18:00.85 anything suppressed or anything like that but I 00:18:00.88\00:18:04.02 remembered it differently. 00:18:04.05\00:18:05.24 I would have told the whole story, I would have told it 00:18:05.27\00:18:07.86 in it would have been, your father isn't a very nice 00:18:07.90\00:18:10.45 person is he? 00:18:10.49\00:18:11.52 But it was my mother that day who had done the wounding. 00:18:11.55\00:18:14.27 She did not mean to. 00:18:14.30\00:18:15.37 That's what in my mind I perceived, well if my own mother 00:18:15.40\00:18:19.07 doesn't love me enough to protect me 00:18:19.10\00:18:20.56 from this kind of abuse. 00:18:20.59\00:18:21.78 I just must not be worth, I came to believe that 00:18:21.81\00:18:24.10 Satan took that and he convinced me that 00:18:24.13\00:18:26.23 I was not worth very much. 00:18:26.26\00:18:27.50 My mother had instilled in me that all woman is made for 00:18:27.54\00:18:31.31 is to sexually please her husband and keep him there. 00:18:31.34\00:18:34.41 Okay and it was all about what she looks like and how 00:18:34.45\00:18:37.48 she can perform. 00:18:37.52\00:18:38.71 So not being able to have children was huge. 00:18:38.74\00:18:40.90 That was a real, even trying to make it a non-abusive 00:18:40.94\00:18:45.40 world, trying to get out of that seemed impossible to 00:18:45.44\00:18:49.86 me because of my view of how people are. 00:18:49.90\00:18:53.85 So I went from that husband, ended up getting a 00:18:53.89\00:18:57.73 divorce from him and within a few weeks was married 00:18:57.77\00:19:01.58 again, to my second husband. 00:19:01.62\00:19:03.41 He ended up, he was in the Army, we got stationed 00:19:03.44\00:19:08.54 in Las Vegas, he started seeing prostitutes and my 00:19:08.58\00:19:13.61 way of vindicating myself is well if you rather pay money 00:19:13.64\00:19:18.65 to see a prostitute, then I'll just become one. 00:19:18.69\00:19:20.65 And the counselor calls me in, looks at me and says, 00:19:20.68\00:19:24.02 you're HIV test, it came back positive. 00:19:24.06\00:19:29.55 I just stood there and kept thinking, 00:19:36.12\00:19:38.53 this can't be me, right? 00:19:38.56\00:19:39.62 This kind of thing just happens to other people, 00:19:39.66\00:19:44.70 It can't be me I'm only 27 years old, I'm in love and I 00:19:44.73\00:19:48.05 want to get married, so how can this be me? 00:19:48.09\00:19:50.60 So I am trying to figure it out, so I thought well maybe 00:19:55.35\00:19:58.45 okay, there is just some big mistake somewhere, right? 00:19:58.48\00:20:01.32 That's it there's just a big mistake, but I asked the 00:20:01.35\00:20:04.15 counselor, couldn't there be a big mistake? 00:20:04.19\00:20:06.16 He said, we'll do a retest and I said great, 00:20:06.19\00:20:08.13 can I find out tomorrow? 00:20:08.16\00:20:09.28 He said, no it will take a week. 00:20:09.32\00:20:10.62 I said, A week I have to wait another week? 00:20:10.66\00:20:13.12 He said yes, this was 1993 and it would take a week 00:20:13.15\00:20:15.30 to get the results. 00:20:15.34\00:20:16.37 So he took out a needle and drew more blood, 00:20:16.40\00:20:17.92 and I get up, I think we are leaving, 00:20:17.95\00:20:21.28 but instead he takes me in another room and we 00:20:21.31\00:20:23.76 get in this room and there is a woman in there. 00:20:23.80\00:20:26.18 She said, I am from the Colorado State Health Department. 00:20:26.21\00:20:30.23 This disease is so dangerous the only way we can keep 00:20:30.27\00:20:33.40 this disease from spreading is to get anyone who might 00:20:33.43\00:20:36.22 have been exposed, we need to get them all tested. 00:20:36.26\00:20:39.13 She says, we need you to give us the names of anyone 00:20:39.16\00:20:42.00 who might have been exposed. 00:20:42.03\00:20:43.74 Again, this is the kind of stuff that 00:20:43.78\00:20:46.10 touches your heart, Cheri, to spend so much time 00:20:46.13\00:20:51.31 in the world, and then come to the Lord, 00:20:51.35\00:20:53.85 and then to have HIV, and yet be so strong, 00:20:53.89\00:20:56.36 and so solid in Christ, 00:20:56.39\00:20:58.58 to know that this life is not everything, 00:20:58.62\00:21:00.40 that there is more coming. 00:21:00.44\00:21:01.84 You know what was real interesting is she spent, 00:21:01.88\00:21:04.14 it took them 9 years to just sit with this. 00:21:04.17\00:21:08.76 When God said, I want you to tell people, she said 00:21:08.79\00:21:11.94 I don't feel clean anymore, I feel like a leper. 00:21:11.98\00:21:14.94 I don't feel like I could do that and He just opened 00:21:14.97\00:21:17.89 eyes and also Rick's eyes too, a number of kids 00:21:17.93\00:21:22.18 that are starting sexually active now, very early on 00:21:22.22\00:21:25.45 because we are in such a sexualized society. 00:21:25.49\00:21:27.81 All of Hollywood and everybody just says is this is 00:21:27.85\00:21:31.28 okay and everything is okay, not realizing that folks 00:21:31.32\00:21:34.90 are coming down with HIV is one that is a trigger for us, 00:21:34.94\00:21:38.49 Genital warts, that causes all these cancers. 00:21:38.52\00:21:41.57 You have got Chlamydia, Syphilis coming back you've got 00:21:41.61\00:21:45.63 Gonorrhea, you've got, and we're not even talking about just so 00:21:45.67\00:21:48.92 many relationships damaging our view on marriage, 00:21:48.95\00:21:53.48 or any of that kind of stuff. 00:21:53.51\00:21:54.54 We are talking about physical issues that 00:21:54.57\00:21:55.99 will take you out. 00:21:56.03\00:21:57.12 And He said so please stand up, so when she finally 00:21:57.16\00:22:00.91 responded to God, so God is when somebody has had an 00:22:00.95\00:22:03.84 affair and God says please stand up and tell somebody, 00:22:03.87\00:22:06.73 you are saying, you know what, I don't want to. 00:22:06.76\00:22:09.25 Not me! 00:22:09.28\00:22:10.31 I have met even pastors that have issues with 00:22:10.34\00:22:15.78 same-sex things, or their porn addictions or 00:22:15.81\00:22:17.95 whatever and be enabled to even say to them 00:22:17.98\00:22:20.91 stand up and tell somebody. 00:22:20.94\00:22:22.13 They will tell me absolutely not, so God really 00:22:22.16\00:22:25.90 wants us in our recovery to brag on Him. 00:22:25.93\00:22:29.15 It is not just about exposing yourself, it is about 00:22:29.18\00:22:33.36 exposing who God is and His ability to heal, 00:22:33.39\00:22:36.84 and that is what we saw in all these stories. 00:22:36.87\00:22:40.79 Well, certainly in these last 3. 00:22:40.82\00:22:43.24 You know in the days that we that we find ourselves, 00:22:43.27\00:22:46.08 the challenge is, Cheri as you well know, are not going 00:22:46.11\00:22:48.53 to get less, they are going to be greater. 00:22:48.56\00:22:50.92 We are going to find that there are people suffering 00:22:50.95\00:22:53.48 from all kinds of things and the tension that this 00:22:53.51\00:22:56.23 show has always walked is to expose the depth of sin 00:22:56.26\00:23:01.71 so that you can celebrate the depth of recovery. 00:23:01.74\00:23:05.34 You don't want to bask in the fact that your 00:23:05.37\00:23:09.02 life was a wreck, but you have got to say it. 00:23:09.05\00:23:11.93 You have got to understand it and explain it, 00:23:11.96\00:23:15.01 so that when you talk about what God is doing now, 00:23:15.04\00:23:17.15 you can look at the difference, and see that God 00:23:17.18\00:23:20.10 has the ability to take you from the gutter most, 00:23:20.13\00:23:22.49 to the uttermost. 00:23:22.52\00:23:23.93 From the outhouse to the White House, as it were. 00:23:23.96\00:23:26.68 From as you were, to what He wants you to be. 00:23:26.71\00:23:28.75 So that is the tension that we have but we got to let folks 00:23:28.78\00:23:31.11 know people are hurting, and God can take that hurting 00:23:31.14\00:23:34.00 person and turn them into a jewel for Him. 00:23:34.03\00:23:36.36 And there are people watching this program, 00:23:36.39\00:23:38.03 that are weeping the entire time because they are so 00:23:38.06\00:23:41.49 stuck there and somebody said, I was too. 00:23:41.52\00:23:44.91 And I don't even remember who that person was. 00:23:44.94\00:23:48.23 Because of what God has done in my life, and they 00:23:48.26\00:23:50.68 are weeping and this is not only in this country. 00:23:50.71\00:23:53.17 I just found out we are very popular in Australia, 00:23:53.20\00:23:57.97 New Zealand and different parts of the world and 00:23:58.00\00:24:01.15 people are dealing with the same issues and thinking, 00:24:01.18\00:24:03.81 and not popular because we look good, we have a great 00:24:03.84\00:24:06.71 set, or we are so together, because we are none of that. 00:24:06.74\00:24:08.91 All though we do have a great set! 00:24:08.94\00:24:10.22 We do have a great set! 00:24:10.25\00:24:11.32 I will take that back, but what they're saying, 00:24:11.35\00:24:14.62 thank you because they thought they would be there 00:24:14.65\00:24:17.53 the rest of their life and somebody is saying, 00:24:17.56\00:24:19.81 oh don't let the devil lie to you. 00:24:19.84\00:24:22.54 I love the fact, the view I'm getting on God just by 00:24:22.57\00:24:26.39 doing this in hearing these over and over, 00:24:26.42\00:24:28.67 and now I look for them. 00:24:28.70\00:24:30.22 You know if somebody is in the grocery store and they 00:24:30.25\00:24:32.39 have a testimony, I'm saying, will you come 00:24:32.42\00:24:33.89 and be on the program? 00:24:33.92\00:24:35.28 You know what I mean because I'm just looking for them. 00:24:35.31\00:24:37.16 I heard a thing that at the end of all this, we are 00:24:37.19\00:24:41.14 going to be at the end of everything and we are going 00:24:41.17\00:24:43.01 to look at the devil and say, is that him? 00:24:43.04\00:24:44.91 Are you kidding me? 00:24:44.94\00:24:46.09 You know that God is so much bigger than our junk. 00:24:46.12\00:24:49.08 So much bigger than even what the devil himself 00:24:49.11\00:24:51.37 can do to us. 00:24:51.40\00:24:52.43 We need to get a clear picture of who he is, 00:24:52.46\00:24:54.90 and the way we do that is through our love for 00:24:54.93\00:24:56.60 Jesus Christ and the word of our testimony 00:24:56.63\00:24:59.04 that it says the Revelation. 00:24:59.07\00:25:00.53 Yes, yes, yes, powerful, extremely powerful. 00:25:00.56\00:25:02.80 You know there is a text, you can't get through a 00:25:02.83\00:25:04.43 program without a text, but this kind of speaks what 00:25:04.46\00:25:08.41 this program is about. 00:25:08.44\00:25:09.66 1 Corinthians 6:9, "do you not know that the 00:25:09.69\00:25:14.23 unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? 00:25:14.26\00:25:16.76 Do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, 00:25:16.79\00:25:19.99 nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomizers, nor 00:25:20.02\00:25:22.53 thieves, nor covetous, nor drinkers, nor revilers, 00:25:22.56\00:25:24.51 nor extortioners, will inherit the kingdom of God. 00:25:24.54\00:25:26.86 And such were some of you. " 00:25:26.89\00:25:30.36 You know He is telling the truth you guys used to be 00:25:30.39\00:25:32.24 that, "but you are washed, but you are sanctified, 00:25:32.27\00:25:35.73 you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, 00:25:35.76\00:25:37.83 and by the Spirit of our God. " 00:25:37.86\00:25:39.46 That's what this show does, it says these kinds of 00:25:39.49\00:25:43.00 things can not inherit the kingdom of God, and these 00:25:43.03\00:25:46.06 people used to be this but they are not that anymore. 00:25:46.09\00:25:49.87 They were washed, they were sanctified, and if you are 00:25:49.90\00:25:52.92 sitting in your room and you are recounting the list 00:25:52.95\00:25:56.47 of sins in your life put the list down and open up the 00:25:56.50\00:26:00.18 word of God because God has something to say to you 00:26:00.21\00:26:03.23 and that is that the list doesn't count anymore. 00:26:03.26\00:26:06.11 It doesn't matter because I have a whole new future 00:26:06.14\00:26:08.46 for you, I've got plans for you and they don't include 00:26:08.49\00:26:10.99 what you were, they are what you are going to be. 00:26:11.02\00:26:13.04 We talked about, on this program we talked about 00:26:13.07\00:26:15.86 the fact that, exactly that. 00:26:15.89\00:26:18.23 We all came from those backgrounds, but God says 00:26:18.26\00:26:20.91 I can't wait to you get to a point where we can stop 00:26:20.94\00:26:23.73 looking at that and I can show you who you are. 00:26:23.76\00:26:26.06 Because you are fabulous, your talents are fabulous, 00:26:26.09\00:26:28.67 your giftings are fabulous, but the way you laugh 00:26:28.70\00:26:31.44 without all that junk is fabulous, and I don't want 00:26:31.47\00:26:34.38 you your whole life to be looking at this stuff. 00:26:34.41\00:26:35.97 So we are going to move right on past that and 00:26:36.00\00:26:39.12 I want to teach you how to walk outside and say, 00:26:39.15\00:26:41.74 man is it good to be alive. 00:26:41.77\00:26:43.22 Man does it feel good to take a breath and know that 00:26:43.25\00:26:45.80 I am a child of God, clean and in my own rights standing 00:26:45.83\00:26:49.95 in the holy of Holies in the presence of my Father. 00:26:49.98\00:26:52.43 He invited me in here, I'm here because He invited me. 00:26:52.46\00:26:56.51 I'm adopted into the family. 00:26:56.54\00:26:58.33 Now I'm going to leave for a little bit and go tell 00:26:58.36\00:27:02.25 someone, because you know what He says, get everyone. 00:27:02.28\00:27:05.25 There is a place in the Bible that says get everyone. 00:27:05.28\00:27:07.84 The wedding table is set and everything is ready, 00:27:07.87\00:27:10.90 the feast is ready. 00:27:10.93\00:27:12.06 Go to the highways and the byways and bring them here. 00:27:12.09\00:27:14.79 I just think that God wows me, I have a crush on Him, 00:27:14.82\00:27:18.83 I can't even help it. 00:27:18.86\00:27:19.89 We will be right back, Stay with us! 00:27:19.92\00:27:21.54