Hi we are back Celebrating
Life In Recovery season 4
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All new shows,
real life situations.
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We have looked at some
powerful, powerful testimonies,
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giving you snips
of in the first half.
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There is more yet to come.
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Christian Berdahl is a
great singer, a friend of mine,
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we are going to be sharing
studio space not too long
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from now, but I
didn't know Cheri,
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that he had a
background of abuse.
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And that was real interesting
about Christian is that we
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had some cancellations
and somebody, a friend of mine
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had just done some Myofascial
Release therapy on him.
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So he told her a little
bit about his background.
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She said to him, you
need to talk with Cheri.
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Then we had the
cancellation and he walks in.
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I don't know who he is but
I am looking for a testimony
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because we have
to fill this seat.
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I am thinking do
you have a story and
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he starts talking to me.
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Not only does he have
this abuse background,
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but it is very, very intense.
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I don't even know how he,
you could feel the Holy Spirit
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on him, you can feel him being
such an anointed man of God
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and this abuse almost
killed him as a child.
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So as he started
to tell his testimony,
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I was like how are you standing?
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He said I am standing
in joy with the family.
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I have little boys of my
own that I am able to love and
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make sure that nothing
like that ever happens to them.
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So he literally comes on
and shares that stuff with us.
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Everybody has said the
same things as you said,
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I didn't even know
anything about that.
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He just walks around
and he is incredible,
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and people love him
and our blessed by him.
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We also have on this
particular roll-in we are going
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to see next is that,
once a woman named Alta
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that I went to
her church in Oregon.
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I think was Oregon or
Grants Pass or something,
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so I went to her
church and she was talking.
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She is a church secretary,
and I'm not hardly paying
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attention, but all of a
sudden she was like well you
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know I had my second
affair, and I am like what?
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You just don't hear that
from the church secretary.
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So I thinking okay you
need to tell me the real deal.
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She is standing next to
her husband who adores her.
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Adores her and
you can feel that.
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He was, she was married
to him on one of the affairs.
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She said one day I was
watching your program and
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someone said that
she was having an affair,
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has relationship
addictions and it's trashed
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her entire life,
adolescents all the way through
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college, through 2 marriages.
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She said I was watching
your program and there was
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a woman Misti Brochin
on and was talking how
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God showed her where
some of the damage was and
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she really got
victory in her life.
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So she said I knelt
down right there and I asked
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God show me.
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He showed her a time
when she was being molested,
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she was 3 years old, behind
a shed and she said I didn't
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even realize, I knew that
I was found naked behind a
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shed at 3, but I didn't
know anything more than that.
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God just uncovered, for
her, the fact that the molester
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had just walked away and
her own mom had just found her.
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She said as soon as I saw
that, as soon as I realized
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the sexual damaged for me, the
stuff that trashed me started
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then and I acted
it out all my life.
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She said that victory
changed everything and now
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she is the church
secretary at the very church
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that almost
disfellowshipped her.
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What is incredible is
that this is now second
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generation, this
is someone who watched
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Celebrating Life in
Recovery and it was an integral
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part of their
healing and recovery.
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Now they are on
Celebrating Life In Recovery and
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healing someone
else, so second-generation
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this is really great.
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I never even
thought of that until then.
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But it is real fun because
I think if we could do that
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every season how
cool would that be.
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To walk with each
other through recovery,
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to edify and lift up each
other through this process,
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because for a lot of
people that are in recovery,
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you know that this
outreach keeps me in recovery.
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Be enabled to tell
someone and reach out to them.
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The third person you are going
to see on this is Matthew Gamble
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He is the real deal, he
is funny, he is out blessing
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people, he is out traveling all
over the world as an Evangelist.
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He is incredible with youths,
but he was a kid that just
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smoked weed and was in
rebellion and wanted to be
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Rastafarian and move to
Jamaica, you know what I mean?
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He said he went from atheism
to agnostic to Adventism.
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I just think his testimony
is amazing, so enjoy this
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roll-in with all these 3 folks.
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The 3 of as boys were
like little servants, little
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slaves and it
was never consistent.
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One thing I love about
God is He is consistent.
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I never had any consistency
in my life where I could
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come home and do
my chores from school.
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We were latch key kids, we
let ourselves in, and you are
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home because both
my parents worked.
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My step dad and my mom.
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So we have many hours
were we were just free to
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do whatever as long
our chores were done and
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our homework was done.
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Then you would hear the
car door close, my dad's truck
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door and literally there
would be ripples of fear that
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would go through your body,
because have I done anything
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wrong, had I not, is
everything not kept right?
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Have I done
everything just right?
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Even if you had you
could still be beaten that day.
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When I say beaten I don't
mean, oh bad little boy and
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you would get a spanking.
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I'm talking beaten to
where, I will spare you all the
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details, but I know
what it means to be scourged.
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I mean literally, I had
this whole, I will give you a
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quick idea of the mental games.
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I decided I had enough
and I was going to run away.
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I was a suicidal kid, a
sad kid, a depressed kid.
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We lived through this
oppression and yet when we
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were out and about
everything was supposed to
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look like it was okay.
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You know you better not
say anything or all hell
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will break loose and
I believed him because
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I was living in hell already.
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I was involved in the
church and there was a man at
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church that again affirmed
me, showed attention to me,
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and we were best friends,
his family and my family
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best of friends.
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We did a lot of things
together in one thing led to
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another and we ended up involved
in a relationship together.
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I left my husband for a
short time, 3 weeks, but you
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know emotionally I had
left for a lot longer than that.
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We got back together, he
actually had prayer groups at
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our church praying me home.
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I knew it was the power
of God, my husband did that.
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I knew it was the power
of God bringing me home.
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And there it is this
church down there, Seventh-day
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Adventist, so I
called it up on Monday.
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The Lady answers the
phone, praise the Lord.
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I said okay, she
said, how can I help you?
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I said my name is Matthew
and I live in St. Augustine
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and I would like to come.
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Oh that is wonderful
we will be here Saturday.
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Come out, I
believe it was 11 o'clock.
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So I said fine.
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I show up on this
road, I knew the road,
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but I couldn't find the place.
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It is a small
little white building,
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and I just couldn't, and
there are a couple big churches,
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and a small little building.
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Finally I find it, I
come in late and the pastor is
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up at the pulpit, he
grabs the side of the pulpit.
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I come through these bar
doors that swing in and out,
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that's at the back of
this church, I come through and
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push these doors the first
thing I realize is I am the
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only colored
person in the building.
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This was an all-black
church, which I felt like I was
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at home, because I love
being in Jamaica and all that.
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These were all Caribbean-based
people, then the pastor
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stops from the pulpit and
says, we want to praise the
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Lord for sending
Matthew to us today.
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My jaw dropped, because
I'm like how does this guy,
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I never met this guy in
my life, I made one call on
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Monday, how does this
guy even know my name?
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I love these testimonies,
I love the stories, I love
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the fact that every
single person God wants to use.
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So to me coming off the
street, homeless for 10 years
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strung out on heroine,
teeth missing, illiterate,
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and you think that God
can't use someone like that.
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I travel all over the
world so I wanted to say to
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everyone I don't
care what your issue is,
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I don't care what
God pulls you from.
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It is not that I don't
care, you know what I mean,
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because I do have
a heart. C. A.: sure!
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It is like I know that
God has a plan to step you
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out to help someone else.
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There is so many
people when somebody says,
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well who do I help?
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I think pick an age,
pick an issue, pick a city,
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it doesn't matter
because they are everywhere.
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I don't care if I
only want to help newborns,
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there's newborns with
AIDS, there's newborns with
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medical issues, there are
newborns that are abandoned,
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you know what I mean?
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I only want to work with
old folks, there's geriatrics,
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there's Alzheimer's,
there's medical stuff, there is
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death, there's
disease, there's loneliness.
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I mean I only want to
work with teenagers, there's
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cutters there's Goth
folks, do you know what I mean
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it's like coming out no
matter where you come out from.
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God says you stand up and
stop letting the devil mess
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with you with your shame,
stop letting the devil mess
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with your just not good
enough, let that be surrendered
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to God and I will help you
to change the community you
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live in, just by being you.
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What is great about
these 3 particular testimonies
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is that they each have
been able to deal with their
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situations, their
histories to the point now where
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they can truly celebrate.
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They can say this is
what I was, this is what I am,
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that has prepared me to do this.
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Our camera person here,
Ben was talking about Alta,
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how she can go to a
restaurant and talk about
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when I was molested.
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And everybody turns,
yeah, she's made peace
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with it and God has
given her peace with it.
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Christian Berdahl, to
come through such horrendous
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let me go back to Alto,
what is really interesting is
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after that healing happens,
after God start showing her
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some of that kind of stuff,
she decides that I need to
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tell my parents. You know!
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She doesn't want to hurt
the molester, it is not even
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about revenge on the
molester, it is being able to
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get healing in that
area for her and for him.
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But she goes back to her
mom and dad and sits there
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and all of a sudden
everything makes sense,
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of always finding her naked
when this person was around.
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Everybody started
putting those pieces together,
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but the mom who watched
this daughter out of control
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her whole life, this Christian
mom who prayed all of a
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sudden saw, instead of
this daughter acting out in this
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horrible behavior, she saw
a wounded child and she said,
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I am so sorry for what happened.
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So the healing
happened in the entire family.
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I thought oh God, I love you.
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Yeah, yeah and her
healing was the healing of
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the whole family and
that is what you feel doing,
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looking at the first several
that we have gone through.
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Everybody is whole now,
everybody is ministering now,
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and I like that idea.
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It's not just I am getting by,
I'm making it from day to day,
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but I'm celebrating
my life in recovery and
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I'm ministering to other people.
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And I am not constantly
falling back with temptations.
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You know what I don't
wake up and say, oh I hope
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I don't to heroine today.
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Do you know what I mean
it's so far. C. A.: I'm glad!
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All of 3ABN I'm sure.
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No, or my family.
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It is so far removed from
that, God has walked me to
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the point where I can
stand up and say, you know what
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I hope my speech is honest
today, I hope that I stand
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in joy and integrity, I
hope that I don't miss what
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God is doing today.
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Instead of I hope I don't
smoke, you know that still
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comes up for me once in awhile.
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A smoker will walk by,
cause I smoked for so long I
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think could you just
hand me one of those?
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No, I can't say never
tempted, but it's like the
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temptations are so different
so when I get to minister
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to someone else, when any
of these folks get to minister
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to someone else there is
hope that says you will not
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struggle with this
the rest of your life.
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Because you are beyond
that and these people are
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beyond that and are giving back.
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Matt Gamble what a cool
guy and the idea that Ministry
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has many stripes, many
colors, many forms, many ways
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to minister, particularly
those who are downtrodden.
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Who may not want the
straight up Bible study kind of
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a thing, we've got
to come another way,
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and Matt Gamble does that.
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He is so hip in doing that.
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One of the things that
everybody covered in this
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program, every single
story, every single testimony,
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every single aspect,
every single victory you will
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hear on the program
says that eventually
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they opened up the word of God.
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So we are talking about
prayer and we are going to get
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back to that, were talking
about prayer were talking
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about communicating with
God but to open up the word.
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If you don't have
the Bible, get one.
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If you really don't have
one, and don't know how to
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get one, call us!
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I'm telling you call
us. we'll find you a Bible.
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We will find you a Bible
but it is opening up the word
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of God, understanding who
He is, understanding who we
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are in Him, and
understanding the promises.
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Because when the promises
says I will give you a new
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mind and a new heart
and I will restore in you
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everything that
was taken from you.
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That you are the delight
of my life, you are the apple
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of my eye, you are after
my own heart, but God says all
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the sudden I can stand up
in Christ knowing that I have
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lied to myself my whole
life, that I am nothing.
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God says, you are
created by Me, and I love you.
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So we are everything and
not everything in our junk,
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not everything in
our vanity put everything
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in the eyes of God.
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This whole thing has
stopped, whole creation all of
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heaven has stopped
just for our recovery,
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just for our
restoration, and God says don't
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let anyone tell you are nothing.
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You are everything to me
step into recovery, trust Me.
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The next roll-in I want to
share with you is very fun.
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Some friends of mine did
a program called Girls Night
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Out, they came back and
talked about further recovery.
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Because You know somebody
says, I recover and just a I
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do it once and it's
done, isn't that funny?
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Who told them that?
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Because I hope I am
not telling them that.
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I think not and
life's not saying that either
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Cheri: exactly!
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Certainly not, certainly not!
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As we get hit with
different things, as God unfolds
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different parts
of our character,
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He is real gentle with us.
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He will go as fast as
we can to let go the stuff.
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We can do it all in a
moment, God is so right there
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with us, but most of us can't.
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She is going to talk
about further recovery.
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There are a number of girls
that on that, Cheri and Joleen
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talking about their
recovery which is fun.
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The next one I want to
show you is Sarai and Charlie,
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they are amazing they
work for Better Life TV.
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They have a Ministry that
is unbelievable, she was a
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multiple personality
disorder, satanic worship.
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she was growing up,
not her but as a tiny baby
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and her family
was all out to lunch.
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How did she come through
that, how did she integrate
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it with her mental disorder,
and now she has a family
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and Ministry of her own
that God has His hand on.
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Then the last one is
Rick and Barbara Wise.
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They are just amazing,
Wide Stretch Ministries.
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She, C. A., her
father laughed, she was very
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destroyed by that but
decided to over achieve.
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She was in college
looking at a career and doing
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everything right and she
is a little sexually active,
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you know 19, she slept
with someone and a few more.
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She always felt bad and
she came back to Christianity,
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fell a few times, but it
was just like she was back
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and forth on trying
to do the right thing.
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Marries this guy, or
falls in love with this guy,
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a virgin, abstinent,
wants to do the right thing and
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ends up getting tested,
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only because she is going
to the doctor to get a clean
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bill of health, because
she wants him to know that I've
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changed my life.
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I'm kind of like a
Virgin now because I have
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surrendered to God, and
finds out that she has AIDS.
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Yeah, powerful, powerful!
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This last group in here
of Charlie and Sarai Romani,
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I have met them just recently,
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what a Godly, wonderful couple.
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You would never know that they
had the backgrounds that they do
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It is a testament to the
ability of God to clean you up.
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And Matt, in a psychiatric
hospital. C. A.: yeah, yeah!
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Both crazy as
anything. yeah, yeah!
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Both struggling with all
kinds of stuff, and I'm thinking
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only God can take a couple
in a psychiatric hospital,
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and say you guys from across
the room, gaze at each other
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because this is your mate.
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Right! Cheri: And
I'm going to bless you.
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Yeah, and give you
a worldwide Ministry,
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and they are doing
such a fabulous job.
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And I met their
children, Jordan, their son
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just stole my heart.
00:17:06.52\00:17:08.13
I worked with him at
his school, and I worked
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with him here, stole
my heart and incredible.
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So that whole generational
break with these 2 people,
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because God
stepped in. C. A.: yeah!
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Yeah, of all places.
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Imagine meeting in a
psychiatric hospital?
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Exactly, enjoy this
I'm thrilled besides God.
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You see your mother as
what was going on with her,
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or what was going with
your father, or whoever wounded
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you, you could see their wounds
and so you do not blame them.
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But He showed me, when it
began to pray this, that my
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father was being very,
very abusive with me one day.
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I was probably 4 years
old, and I had turned to my
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mother to help me
and she was laughing.
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Now I don't know that she
was laughing at me, but in my
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4- year-old mind
that is what I perceived.
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I was being
traumatized and it crushed me.
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Jesus took me back there
and said, look what happened
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and that day, and I remembered
this already it wasn't
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anything suppressed or
anything like that but I
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remembered it differently.
00:18:04.05\00:18:05.24
I would have told the whole
story, I would have told it
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in it would have been,
your father isn't a very nice
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person is he?
00:18:10.49\00:18:11.52
But it was my mother that
day who had done the wounding.
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She did not mean to.
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That's what in my mind I
perceived, well if my own mother
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doesn't love me
enough to protect me
00:18:19.10\00:18:20.56
from this kind of abuse.
00:18:20.59\00:18:21.78
I just must not be
worth, I came to believe that
00:18:21.81\00:18:24.10
Satan took that and
he convinced me that
00:18:24.13\00:18:26.23
I was not worth very much.
00:18:26.26\00:18:27.50
My mother had instilled in
me that all woman is made for
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is to sexually please her
husband and keep him there.
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Okay and it was all about
what she looks like and how
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she can perform.
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So not being able to
have children was huge.
00:18:38.74\00:18:40.90
That was a real, even
trying to make it a non-abusive
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world, trying to get out
of that seemed impossible to
00:18:45.44\00:18:49.86
me because of my
view of how people are.
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So I went from that
husband, ended up getting a
00:18:53.89\00:18:57.73
divorce from him and
within a few weeks was married
00:18:57.77\00:19:01.58
again, to my second husband.
00:19:01.62\00:19:03.41
He ended up, he was in
the Army, we got stationed
00:19:03.44\00:19:08.54
in Las Vegas, he started
seeing prostitutes and my
00:19:08.58\00:19:13.61
way of vindicating myself
is well if you rather pay money
00:19:13.64\00:19:18.65
to see a prostitute,
then I'll just become one.
00:19:18.69\00:19:20.65
And the counselor calls
me in, looks at me and says,
00:19:20.68\00:19:24.02
you're HIV test,
it came back positive.
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I just stood
there and kept thinking,
00:19:36.12\00:19:38.53
this can't be me, right?
00:19:38.56\00:19:39.62
This kind of thing just
happens to other people,
00:19:39.66\00:19:44.70
It can't be me I'm only 27
years old, I'm in love and I
00:19:44.73\00:19:48.05
want to get married,
so how can this be me?
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So I am trying to figure it
out, so I thought well maybe
00:19:55.35\00:19:58.45
okay, there is just some
big mistake somewhere, right?
00:19:58.48\00:20:01.32
That's it there's just a
big mistake, but I asked the
00:20:01.35\00:20:04.15
counselor, couldn't
there be a big mistake?
00:20:04.19\00:20:06.16
He said, we'll do a
retest and I said great,
00:20:06.19\00:20:08.13
can I find out tomorrow?
00:20:08.16\00:20:09.28
He said, no it will take a week.
00:20:09.32\00:20:10.62
I said, A week I
have to wait another week?
00:20:10.66\00:20:13.12
He said yes, this was
1993 and it would take a week
00:20:13.15\00:20:15.30
to get the results.
00:20:15.34\00:20:16.37
So he took out a
needle and drew more blood,
00:20:16.40\00:20:17.92
and I get up, I
think we are leaving,
00:20:17.95\00:20:21.28
but instead he takes
me in another room and we
00:20:21.31\00:20:23.76
get in this room and
there is a woman in there.
00:20:23.80\00:20:26.18
She said, I am from the Colorado
State Health Department.
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This disease is so dangerous
the only way we can keep
00:20:30.27\00:20:33.40
this disease from spreading
is to get anyone who might
00:20:33.43\00:20:36.22
have been exposed, we
need to get them all tested.
00:20:36.26\00:20:39.13
She says, we need you to
give us the names of anyone
00:20:39.16\00:20:42.00
who might have been exposed.
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Again, this is
the kind of stuff that
00:20:43.78\00:20:46.10
touches your heart,
Cheri, to spend so much time
00:20:46.13\00:20:51.31
in the world, and
then come to the Lord,
00:20:51.35\00:20:53.85
and then to have
HIV, and yet be so strong,
00:20:53.89\00:20:56.36
and so solid in Christ,
00:20:56.39\00:20:58.58
to know that this
life is not everything,
00:20:58.62\00:21:00.40
that there is more coming.
00:21:00.44\00:21:01.84
You know what was real
interesting is she spent,
00:21:01.88\00:21:04.14
it took them 9 years
to just sit with this.
00:21:04.17\00:21:08.76
When God said, I want
you to tell people, she said
00:21:08.79\00:21:11.94
I don't feel clean
anymore, I feel like a leper.
00:21:11.98\00:21:14.94
I don't feel like I could
do that and He just opened
00:21:14.97\00:21:17.89
eyes and also Rick's
eyes too, a number of kids
00:21:17.93\00:21:22.18
that are starting sexually
active now, very early on
00:21:22.22\00:21:25.45
because we are in
such a sexualized society.
00:21:25.49\00:21:27.81
All of Hollywood and
everybody just says is this is
00:21:27.85\00:21:31.28
okay and everything is
okay, not realizing that folks
00:21:31.32\00:21:34.90
are coming down with HIV is
one that is a trigger for us,
00:21:34.94\00:21:38.49
Genital warts, that
causes all these cancers.
00:21:38.52\00:21:41.57
You have got Chlamydia,
Syphilis coming back you've got
00:21:41.61\00:21:45.63
Gonorrhea, you've got, and we're
not even talking about just so
00:21:45.67\00:21:48.92
many relationships
damaging our view on marriage,
00:21:48.95\00:21:53.48
or any of that kind of stuff.
00:21:53.51\00:21:54.54
We are talking
about physical issues that
00:21:54.57\00:21:55.99
will take you out.
00:21:56.03\00:21:57.12
And He said so please
stand up, so when she finally
00:21:57.16\00:22:00.91
responded to God, so God
is when somebody has had an
00:22:00.95\00:22:03.84
affair and God says please
stand up and tell somebody,
00:22:03.87\00:22:06.73
you are saying, you
know what, I don't want to.
00:22:06.76\00:22:09.25
Not me!
00:22:09.28\00:22:10.31
I have met even
pastors that have issues with
00:22:10.34\00:22:15.78
same-sex things, or
their porn addictions or
00:22:15.81\00:22:17.95
whatever and be
enabled to even say to them
00:22:17.98\00:22:20.91
stand up and tell somebody.
00:22:20.94\00:22:22.13
They will tell me
absolutely not, so God really
00:22:22.16\00:22:25.90
wants us in our
recovery to brag on Him.
00:22:25.93\00:22:29.15
It is not just about
exposing yourself, it is about
00:22:29.18\00:22:33.36
exposing who God is
and His ability to heal,
00:22:33.39\00:22:36.84
and that is what we
saw in all these stories.
00:22:36.87\00:22:40.79
Well, certainly in these last 3.
00:22:40.82\00:22:43.24
You know in the days that
we that we find ourselves,
00:22:43.27\00:22:46.08
the challenge is, Cheri as
you well know, are not going
00:22:46.11\00:22:48.53
to get less, they
are going to be greater.
00:22:48.56\00:22:50.92
We are going to find that
there are people suffering
00:22:50.95\00:22:53.48
from all kinds of things
and the tension that this
00:22:53.51\00:22:56.23
show has always walked is
to expose the depth of sin
00:22:56.26\00:23:01.71
so that you can
celebrate the depth of recovery.
00:23:01.74\00:23:05.34
You don't want to
bask in the fact that your
00:23:05.37\00:23:09.02
life was a wreck, but
you have got to say it.
00:23:09.05\00:23:11.93
You have got to
understand it and explain it,
00:23:11.96\00:23:15.01
so that when you talk
about what God is doing now,
00:23:15.04\00:23:17.15
you can look at the
difference, and see that God
00:23:17.18\00:23:20.10
has the ability to take
you from the gutter most,
00:23:20.13\00:23:22.49
to the uttermost.
00:23:22.52\00:23:23.93
From the outhouse to
the White House, as it were.
00:23:23.96\00:23:26.68
From as you were, to
what He wants you to be.
00:23:26.71\00:23:28.75
So that is the tension that
we have but we got to let folks
00:23:28.78\00:23:31.11
know people are hurting,
and God can take that hurting
00:23:31.14\00:23:34.00
person and turn them
into a jewel for Him.
00:23:34.03\00:23:36.36
And there are people
watching this program,
00:23:36.39\00:23:38.03
that are weeping the
entire time because they are so
00:23:38.06\00:23:41.49
stuck there and
somebody said, I was too.
00:23:41.52\00:23:44.91
And I don't even
remember who that person was.
00:23:44.94\00:23:48.23
Because of what God has
done in my life, and they
00:23:48.26\00:23:50.68
are weeping and this is
not only in this country.
00:23:50.71\00:23:53.17
I just found out we are
very popular in Australia,
00:23:53.20\00:23:57.97
New Zealand and
different parts of the world and
00:23:58.00\00:24:01.15
people are dealing with
the same issues and thinking,
00:24:01.18\00:24:03.81
and not popular because
we look good, we have a great
00:24:03.84\00:24:06.71
set, or we are so together,
because we are none of that.
00:24:06.74\00:24:08.91
All though we do
have a great set!
00:24:08.94\00:24:10.22
We do have a great set!
00:24:10.25\00:24:11.32
I will take that back,
but what they're saying,
00:24:11.35\00:24:14.62
thank you because they
thought they would be there
00:24:14.65\00:24:17.53
the rest of their life
and somebody is saying,
00:24:17.56\00:24:19.81
oh don't let the
devil lie to you.
00:24:19.84\00:24:22.54
I love the fact, the view
I'm getting on God just by
00:24:22.57\00:24:26.39
doing this in
hearing these over and over,
00:24:26.42\00:24:28.67
and now I look for them.
00:24:28.70\00:24:30.22
You know if somebody is
in the grocery store and they
00:24:30.25\00:24:32.39
have a testimony,
I'm saying, will you come
00:24:32.42\00:24:33.89
and be on the program?
00:24:33.92\00:24:35.28
You know what I mean because
I'm just looking for them.
00:24:35.31\00:24:37.16
I heard a thing that at
the end of all this, we are
00:24:37.19\00:24:41.14
going to be at the end of
everything and we are going
00:24:41.17\00:24:43.01
to look at the devil
and say, is that him?
00:24:43.04\00:24:44.91
Are you kidding me?
00:24:44.94\00:24:46.09
You know that God is so
much bigger than our junk.
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So much bigger than
even what the devil himself
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can do to us.
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We need to get a
clear picture of who he is,
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and the way we do that
is through our love for
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Jesus Christ and the
word of our testimony
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that it says the Revelation.
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Yes, yes, yes,
powerful, extremely powerful.
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You know there is a
text, you can't get through a
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program without a text,
but this kind of speaks what
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this program is about.
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1 Corinthians 6:9,
"do you not know that the
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unrighteous will not
inherit the kingdom of God?
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Do not be deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters,
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nor adulterers, nor
homosexuals, nor sodomizers, nor
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thieves, nor covetous,
nor drinkers, nor revilers,
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nor extortioners, will
inherit the kingdom of God.
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And such were some of you. "
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You know He is telling
the truth you guys used to be
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that, "but you are
washed, but you are sanctified,
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you were justified in
the name of the Lord Jesus,
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and by the Spirit of our God. "
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That's what this show
does, it says these kinds of
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things can not inherit
the kingdom of God, and these
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people used to be this
but they are not that anymore.
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They were washed, they
were sanctified, and if you are
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sitting in your room and
you are recounting the list
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of sins in your life put
the list down and open up the
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word of God because God
has something to say to you
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and that is that the
list doesn't count anymore.
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It doesn't matter because
I have a whole new future
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for you, I've got plans
for you and they don't include
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what you were, they are
what you are going to be.
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We talked about, on
this program we talked about
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the fact that, exactly that.
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We all came from those
backgrounds, but God says
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I can't wait to you get
to a point where we can stop
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looking at that and I
can show you who you are.
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Because you are fabulous,
your talents are fabulous,
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your giftings are
fabulous, but the way you laugh
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without all that junk is
fabulous, and I don't want
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you your whole life to
be looking at this stuff.
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So we are going to
move right on past that and
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I want to teach you how
to walk outside and say,
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man is it good to be alive.
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Man does it feel good to
take a breath and know that
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I am a child of God, clean
and in my own rights standing
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in the holy of Holies in
the presence of my Father.
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He invited me in here, I'm
here because He invited me.
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I'm adopted into the family.
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Now I'm going to leave
for a little bit and go tell
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someone, because you know
what He says, get everyone.
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There is a place in the
Bible that says get everyone.
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The wedding table is
set and everything is ready,
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the feast is ready.
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Go to the highways and the
byways and bring them here.
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I just think that God
wows me, I have a crush on Him,
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I can't even help it.
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We will be right
back, Stay with us!
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