Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Leo Schreven
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR000021
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00:11 Welcome to Celebrating Life In Recover
00:12 I'm Cheri your host. 00:13 Today is going to be a wild show so get a pen, paper for 00:17 notes and put your seatbelt on because, oh man, I'm not 00:21 even going to tell you because of why. 00:23 Come and join us! 00:51 I love this section of the show. 00:53 Last season I had Leo Schreven on and what was funny about 00:56 that whole thing is that I have had Leos tapes and his 01:01 Power Seminar at my house forever. 01:02 When I first heard Leo, I thought that is such good stuff. 01:06 Of course as good wife that I am, I want my husband to 01:09 hear every word and do it. 01:12 So I come home, Brad you have to listen to this it is so 01:16 good and Brad he is busy. 01:18 He works at the University, plays in the orchestra and he 01:20 has just put it off, put it off, put it off. 01:22 The last season that Leo was on, he listened to him, he said 01:26 don't we have that guy's tapes? 01:28 Now he is listening to every one of them because, Leo 01:31 have to say first of all thank you for coming back. 01:33 You so impressed Brad, he just said everything he said is 01:38 right on, so now he has his own devotional time and getting 01:44 up and he's going through the Scriptures. 01:45 He is trying to eat right and all that stuff that you 01:48 quickly went over on the last season. 01:51 So I want to say that on this season lets not quickly go 01:54 over it, let's hit some points. 01:56 First of all for people who haven't seen the show, 01:59 don't know a thing about you, who are you? 02:02 My name is Leo Schreven and we do a seminar called 02:05 'All Power' and it basically is a Bible-based seminar 02:08 on how to master your life physically, emotionally, 02:10 spiritually and financially. 02:12 Every area of life is important. 02:14 So we have taken the position that you can know everything 02:16 about God, you can know everything about truth and all 02:17 the doctrines or whatever, but how do you manage your 02:20 life, how do you manage your emotions, how do you manage 02:21 your marriage and your finances? 02:23 All these challenges that people have in everyday life. 02:24 What I love about your program, because I always want 02:27 to say give me a pill, give me something, give me what ever. 02:31 Yours is basic stuff and you don't have to go buy 02:34 anything. - that's right. 02:36 The principles are all in the Bible and once people pick 02:38 out those principles and start to use them it makes 02:40 instant changes in their lives. 02:42 It's powerful in every area and we don't have to go for 02:44 the pills, that is what this whole program is about, 02:47 addictions, people try pills, they tried drugs, 02:49 they try overeating they try all this stuff. 02:51 The principles are in the Bible. 02:53 Once you pick up God's principles is just like that you 02:56 can overcome these things and it's so exciting. 02:58 So that is what we share with people. 02:59 You are like a rebellious kid. I love that a rebellious 03:02 kid acting out and you find God. 03:04 In your finding God your whole life changed. 03:07 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 03:08 That is cool so we want to start with, the reason we are 03:11 starting to show a little different for people at the café 03:13 and for people in the audience, is that I know Leo has 03:17 a ton of stuff. We are going to do two shows. 03:19 We are going to do them up here. 03:21 We are still going to ask questions but were going 03:23 to get right into it. 03:24 So I want you to get right into the first principles of 03:28 the Power Seminar, things you start teaching. 03:30 And the reason, every time I am with somebody that is 03:34 trying to change their life there is significant changes. 03:37 Our thinking is twisted, what we put in our bodies is 03:40 is all messed up. 03:41 Our relationships, I have been with people 03:43 that they choose the worst of the worst people and they think 03:45 why isn't God blessing us? 03:47 Why? Because you chose a biker that strung out on heroin. 03:49 A great role model. - exactly! 03:52 So start with... what are the basics that you 03:55 take people through? 03:56 The first one is Paul's basic principle of putting the 03:58 past behind you and to forget what's behind you and 04:00 reach for what is before you. 04:01 So many people carry baggage and they want to hold onto 04:03 it, I did this in the past. 04:05 Who cares about past its behind you. 04:06 You have to get to that breaking point. 04:08 You know the first part of my recovery people say that 04:12 you needed to get a 12 step group, you need some 04:14 self-help books, you need to go to therapy and I spent. 04:17 This is embarrassing to say, because I believe your theory 04:21 100%, but I spent 15 years looking at my past. 04:26 And at the end of 15 years I sat there and thought, 04:28 you know what it shouldn't have happened. 04:30 I'll thought that from day one. 04:32 It's the craziest thing, I happen to disagree with that 04:35 too, because I think it's a humanistic philosophy that has 04:37 kept many people in trenches, in bondage for years. 04:39 They go through their past my mommy did this, my daddy 04:42 my uncle did this, who cares. 04:43 Put it behind you, and if you spent your whole life 04:46 digging up your past you are going to be miserable. 04:48 Not only that you are finally going to end up with someone 04:51 to blame, I'm this way because my mommy did this or my 04:52 daddy did this and I grew up in these circumstances. 04:54 You are never going to get ahead. 04:55 So when I read my Bible God talks about an instant heart 04:58 plant, a heart transplant in an instant change so when 05:00 you apply God's principles you have that happen 05:02 tens of thousands of times. 05:04 - exactly in what is interesting to me is when I finally 05:07 decided I was going to trust God with my past. 05:10 I was molested since I was three months old, I was 05:12 homeless by the age of 13 and all that stuff. 05:15 When I finally said, God I will have to trust You on this. 05:17 Because nobody has made sense. 05:20 Somebody said it is probably God's will let you went 05:23 through that, STOP! I don't think God intended that. 05:26 I think that we are in a messed up place, if you have to 05:31 look at that stuff look at it but ask God to show you 05:34 something and then get on with what you are doing today. 05:38 There are two ways that you can look at it. 05:39 My brother is sheet rocking a house right now. 05:41 A bunch of guys sheet rocking his house. 05:42 They are some of the biggest failures in your life. 05:45 They come for a couple hours and hang sheet rock and they 05:47 get so doped up and drunken crazy they have to go home. 05:49 The one guy has a bumper sticker - I've seen that! 05:51 He's got a bumper sticker on the back of his van that goes 05:55 like this, 'Before Therapy I Was a Complete Idiot, and Now 05:59 after Therapy I Understand Why and I like Myself. ' 06:03 You never going to go anywhere with that. 06:04 Put the past behind you and take responsibility for your 06:07 life and if there's one thing we really emphasize in our 06:09 seminar right away is that you have to take responsibility 06:11 for your life. 06:12 We teach people to words, I am. Those are Bible words. 06:14 Who is responsible for your life? I am! 06:17 Who is responsible for your future? I am! 06:19 Who's responsible to make the right decisions? I am! 06:20 - who's responsible today? 06:22 Today I can take responsibility and quit blaming my past, 06:26 quit blaming God, quit blaming my circumstances and just 06:29 say God, You have said I can make a new beginning. 06:31 - that was huge for me, all of a sudden because my family 06:35 is a mess, my parents are addicts and everything was a 06:38 mess, I was homeless, I was picked up by perpetrators and 06:41 all that stuff but as soon as somebody said that to me, 06:44 not said it to me and I listened, but said it to me and 06:47 it's sunk in that I thought if I am then I can change it. 06:51 It was just like this light went off and I thought 06:53 I wanted to say God, thank you so much because I am not 06:57 going to live my life defeated. 06:59 You got it, you got it. 07:00 We can all be winners in the game of life simply by 07:04 choice, and it is one of the most awesome gifts God has 07:06 given us, we have the ability to choose. 07:08 You can stay in the mud, you can stay in the trenches, 07:10 or you can say man, I'm a child of God and I have been 07:13 forgiven and cleansed and I have a future ahead of me. 07:15 Just by making the right decisions. 07:17 So that is the first thing, as we get into people's lives you 07:19 have to accept responsibility for your life and you 07:20 have to put your past behind you. 07:22 Some people enjoy being on a pity trip, 07:24 they like complaining about 07:26 the past and what happened. 07:27 It's almost like a drug. - it is like a drug. 07:28 They just want people to feel sorry for them and everybody 07:32 has to get past that point where I am not on a pity trip 07:34 anymore, I am not a victim. 07:35 What we are boiling it down to this victim mentality. 07:37 Our whole culture today is that we are victims, we're 07:39 victims and there is no such thing as a victim. 07:41 A victim is a choice, I'm sorry I'm a winner in the game 07:44 of life, God has given me victory, God has given me power. 07:46 For people that are watching I have to say, some people 07:50 are going to feel like, wait you don't understand. 07:52 I want to talk to this person, I know that this is going 07:56 to be a hard thing because of what you have been through, 07:59 what I have been through. 08:00 But as soon as you get this, there is a freedom. 08:03 As soon as I got that, I did 15 years in therapy, 08:06 15 years of looking at stuff, 15 years of trying to 08:08 figure things out and the only thing I figured out is 08:11 that it shouldn't happen. 08:12 So as soon as I decided that I'm going to take 08:16 responsibility, what with goofy to me is that I felt like 08:19 somebody walked by me too fast or blew on me and I was a 08:22 mist and would disappeared because they didn't know who 08:25 I was outside of that damage, outside of all that junk. 08:29 So I felt like the Holy Spirit said to me, which is what 08:33 the whole show is about, the Holy Spirit and listening to 08:35 God, the Holy Spirit said what do you want to do? 08:38 It's crazy, I want to learn to sew, take piano lessons. 08:44 It was simple stuff so I rented a piano and brought it to my 08:46 house and took lessons instead of looking at the junk. 08:49 What do you want to do? 08:52 You just hit a point that was so powerful that most people 08:54 spend their whole lives trying to figure out what 08:55 they don't want to do, I don't want this, I don't want 08:57 this or don't want this. 08:58 What do you want out of life? 08:59 And the possibilities are endless. 09:02 I wanted to learn to draw, and I started a graphic design 09:04 business, because I was good, and I thought shut up. 09:08 I didn't think I had one gift on the planet and all of a 09:11 sudden when God said don't focus on your junk, focus on 09:14 who I created, and I promise you, your gifts are amazing. 09:17 Absolutely amazing. - right, right! 09:19 Yeah, so basically when people are willing to take 09:22 responsibility for life than they move forward. 09:23 Basically there are five areas that will really end up 09:26 making a person successful. 09:27 The first one is to decide to follow God and God's 09:29 principles and you can't do it apart from God no matter 09:32 how hard you try the principal works. 09:34 The second thing is what you just mentioned. 09:37 Decide what you want out of life, do you realize that most 09:39 people go through life and they never decide what they 09:40 want, what do you want physically, what you want 09:42 emotionally, what do you want spiritually, 09:43 what do you want financially? 09:44 What do you want in your relationship with God, in other 09:45 words you want to go to church once a week and sit in warm 09:47 up you for three hours, or do you want to be in 09:49 a dynamic living relationship? 09:50 Do you want to be frustrated and angry or do you want 09:53 to live in emotional abundance, what do you want out of life? 09:56 Most people never decide and here's the tragedy. 09:58 When you and I don't decide what we want physically, 10:00 mentally, emotionally, spiritually and financially 10:01 in our life, we end up settling for a lot less than what we 10:03 are capable of achieving. 10:04 I think that is the greatest tragedy in anyone's life. 10:07 And others will decide for us. 10:08 That's right, fast food industries decide for us and 10:10 2/3 of Americans are obese and can't control their weight. 10:13 The music industry decides for us and that is why 10:15 we are filled with hatred and four letter words 10:17 and everything else. 10:18 The movie industry decides for us, people are out of 10:20 control with their lives and they don't even know it 10:21 because they never decided what they really want. 10:23 Then when you do decide, take action. 10:26 I had a dear lady come in the other day and it was so 10:29 funny to meet her and we had this in a book called Cowboys 10:31 Make Better Preachers, you've read it. 10:33 It's a great book for young people teaching life mastering 10:35 lessons, anyway she said I really want to buy this book 10:38 but it's $10 and we can't afford it. 10:40 I said stop, stop, stop don't ever say in my presence we 10:41 can't afford it, say how can we afford it? 10:44 Then your brain engages and you will figure out a way 10:45 to come up with 10 bucks. 10:46 So I said to her let me ask you a question, I said I 10:48 perceived by talking to you that you smoke, is that right? 10:50 She said yeah, I said how much do you smoke? 10:52 She said two and a half packs a day. 10:53 I said does your husband smoke? Yeah! 10:55 How much does he smoke? The same. 10:56 I said well between the two of you, you smoke five packs 10:58 a day right? Yeah! I said don't tell me you can't afford 11:00 to buy a $10 book, all you have to do is quit smoking for 11:02 15 minutes and you can buy one. 11:08 I said to her, do you have a television? 11:09 Yeah who doesn't. 11:10 I don't, I don't have time for it except for 3ABN. 11:15 I said what do you pay for television? 11:19 She said Will we have a satellite dish. 11:20 I said how many channels? 940 channels. 11:23 I said how do you watch 940 channels, so what does that 11:26 cost you a month? She said $149. 11:28 I said dear lady don't tell me you can't afford a book for 11:30 $10, ignorance is self-inflicted in our world today. 11:33 It is inexcusable so when people choose to take action 11:36 they choose to quit letting the music industry, 11:38 the fast food industry, the fashion industry control the 11:40 their life and say I am going to be in control by 11:42 following God's principles and that is the day 11:44 they are set free. 11:45 What is fun about being set free is like what I said 11:47 I decided that, when someone said you are responsible and 11:50 I decided that, the first thing that happened was I just 11:52 felt like now what? 11:54 Because I absolutely had no skills other than 11:57 victimizations, that whole lifestyle thing. 12:00 I had to ask God, You have to speak to me and God does. 12:04 Open up the word, talk to somebody else that you know has 12:08 got it, and I don't grab hold of anybody anymore. 12:11 I used to if you walked by me and I will grab a hold, 12:14 what do you do with this? 12:16 Now I grab a hold of people that I know has mastered that 12:19 in a sense, so I just don't grab anybody. 12:21 I want somebody that can tell me, this is what you do. 12:24 But grab somebody, open up the word of God, you speak to 12:26 God yourself and you find somebody that is going to 12:29 tell you how to live differently then you have lived. 12:31 You are looking for a role model. 12:32 You can have role models in your emotional life, your 12:34 physical life, your financial life, your spiritual life. 12:36 - they are all over the place. 12:38 The neat thing is they can save you years of pain. 12:40 They can accelerate your success, why re-invent the wheel 12:43 if somebody has been successful in their emotional life, 12:45 in their marriage, or raising their kids, whatever it is, 12:47 find out what they did and it can save you so much time. 12:50 What is funny for a lot of us, I'm not even talking about, 12:55 I'm not pulling your stuff out, I'm pulling my own stuff out. 12:58 What is funny for a lot of us is that we think we are so 13:01 unique, as a molested kid, depressed and on the street, 13:05 I think nobody's felt this way. 13:06 Then I talked to every single molested person on the planet 13:09 and they fell exactly that way, exactly that way. 13:11 So it's like being able to say is first of all your 13:14 issues are not unique, Solomon says there's nothing 13:18 new under the sun. 13:19 Earl? has one of my favorite quotes and he talks about the 13:22 problems of the human mind are seemingly endless. 13:24 They have two things in common, one is they are shared 13:26 by most people, and two they can be solved a lot easier 13:28 than you might think, once you can face them. 13:30 How may people have problems in their marriage? 13:32 They've got books, they got DVDs, 13:34 and they have hundreds of resources. 13:35 How many have had problems in their spiritual life? 13:37 I don't have a relation with God, there are a million 13:39 people felt like that, find out what they did. 13:42 Like they got books, they got tapes, they got DVDs, 13:43 that is what 3ABN is full of this stuff. 13:45 It doesn't matter, raising your kids. 13:47 - call us, call us. - exactly, exactly! 13:50 Folks I want you to know this, 13:51 we have all the answers, no. 13:52 But seriously, in every area of your life, I don't care 13:55 what it is there are a million people that have trod the 13:56 way before you, all you have to do is, how did 13:58 they solve the problem? 13:59 What did they do and quit being on pity, I'm the only 14:01 one, no you are not. 14:02 There is so much encouragement in that and there is fun 14:04 in that because you realize I can solve anything because 14:07 a million other people face the same problem. 14:10 One thing that I used to do in recovery, I did nursing so 14:14 I did groups and all that stuff. 14:15 I'd say to everybody imagine, just imagine that every 14:19 single time, let's imagine you have a beeper on. 14:21 Those old beepers, and every single time you think 14:25 something negative about yourself, or you feel sorry for 14:28 yourself, or old stuff comes up your beeper goes off. 14:30 Your job is to stop the beeper. 14:34 At first, I said what do you think the 14:35 beeper would sound like? 14:36 Somebody says I think it would be just nonstop. 14:39 I think it would be just as long thing. 14:41 When you walk around the mall what do you think it would 14:43 sound like if everybody at the mall had one? 14:45 What God wants is the beeper to stop. Let it stop. 14:50 Challenge everything, if something comes in your mind, 14:53 that is just going to come in and tear you down again, 14:56 don't let it anymore, let it be gone. 14:59 You really have to be that aware. - yeah. 15:03 That is what taking responsibility for your life 15:05 is all about, and this leads us into another very important area 15:08 Making decisions, when a person takes responsibility 15:11 for their life and put the past behind them and all the 15:14 things we just talked about, they all of a sudden have a 15:16 new tool they never had available to themselves before 15:17 either, that is making good decisions. 15:20 Everything in your life depends on making decisions. 15:22 This is something that I feel very passionate about because 15:25 I find that sometimes even Christians circles, and I want 15:28 to say this in the most respectful way, we can blame God 15:30 or we blame Satan for certain things in our life. 15:32 God says listen I have given you a choice, I lay before 15:35 you blessings and I lay before you curses and what every 15:38 choice you make you reap the results. 15:39 Especially when it comes to making positive decisions in 15:42 our lives, everything depends on your decisions. 15:45 One good decision can lead you to a lifetime of happiness, 15:47 and one bad decision can obviously lead 15:48 you to a lifetime of pain. 15:50 I used to pray to God, God take the decisions from me. 15:52 He said no they're yours. - it's a gift. 15:54 We can see this way back clear to the 15:57 beginning of Lucifer. 15:58 Lucifer rebelled against God, right? God gave him a 16:00 choice and when he made the wrong choice he was cast out 16:03 of heaven, he reap the painful results of it. 16:05 The same thing happens with Eve, here is the Garden of 16:08 Eden with the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 16:09 God says don't touch the fruit, she made a bad choice. 16:12 That has plunged us into years of sin and darkness. 16:15 Everything depends on our decisions and God does not 16:17 interfere, He tells us how to do it, he tells us the 16:20 principles on how to make right choices. 16:22 He gives us all the tools but ultimately we get to choose 16:25 and to me that is the most amazing and empowering thing 16:27 in the world today. 16:28 I have the ability to choose, even in my eternal life 16:32 I get to choose and wow, this is amazing. 16:35 And God doesn't interfere, once that that tool comes into 16:38 our hands and when people grasps it, it changes everything. 16:42 What's really interesting is that I look at so many 16:46 people today, like when you talk about most of us are 16:48 obese and all that stuff, is that God says that simple 16:51 and we still eat a donut and say how come I'm gaining 16:55 weight? - exactly, exactly! 16:57 How come I have a bad attitude, because your watching 42 16:59 hours of television and get filled the glorification of 17:01 people losing their tempers and getting mad. 17:03 A TV fast! Wow! Get rid of it altogether except for 3ABN. 17:11 Seriously, I have ladies coming all the time with their broken 17:13 marriages say my husband is my husband that and they 17:15 are watching six hours of sentimental sickening 17:18 sacramental slop soap operas. 17:21 They did a clinical study with in Burton by the way. 17:23 Any woman that watches soap operas 2 and 1/2 months, for two 17:26 days is declared clinically insane. 17:27 You can't watch all the crying and lying and cheating 17:30 and expect to have a happy marriage. 17:32 Go to the bookstore and get some good books and learn how 17:34 to have a good relationship and make the same decisions 17:36 people did before. 17:37 Don't get the book, take a walk, take a breath. 17:40 To me what's interesting is that as soon as I break away 17:45 from some of things that have so trashed me is that 17:48 everything around me is edifying and uplifting, 17:52 if I turn those things off, God said it is all around 17:57 you and I really will bless you. 17:59 Exactly, it's renewing the mind and filling it with good 18:01 things and positive things and happy things. 18:03 You know the word decision, most people don't realize 18:05 this, can we talk about the principles now? - yeah. 18:07 The word decision actually comes from a Latin word 18:09 that means to cut off. 18:11 It comes from were they cut dog tails off, and I'm going 18:14 to teach you how to cut a dog's tail off. 18:15 Well thank you just in case I ever need that skill. 18:19 You take a dog like a Doberman pinscher that's got this 18:22 long tail and you take 2 foot of it is a dodgy I know it's 18:24 going to hurt so will do a little at a time. 18:26 You take the first inch and whack the dog goes woo-woo. 18:27 Bandage him up and send him on his way and next week 18:29 you bring him back there and whack, you cut the next 18:31 little inch off, and inch by inch and finally after two 18:32 months the tale is gone. 18:33 No! - You cut it off, that is so mean. 18:37 I take that entire tale and whacked it off and there's 18:41 a little temporary pain and the dogs healed. 18:43 The worst decision, believe it or not comes from that word 18:46 to cut off. 18:47 A true decision means I'm going to do this and cut myself off 18:51 than any other possibility of doing this. 18:53 The challenges, we save in an uncommitted generation, 18:56 and I say that aching with love and respect. 18:57 We don't commit to anything anymore, our churches, our 19:00 marriages, our kids, nothing. 19:01 And because we are so conditioned this way by so many 19:03 things around us in our environment we have forgotten 19:05 what it feels like to make a solid decision. 19:08 It's like when people come to Christ, this happens 19:10 all the time in our life seminars. 19:11 We invite them to except Christ, when they sit on the 19:14 fence their miserable and when they finally make that 19:16 decision and they get off the fence and say yes I'm going 19:18 to stand for Jesus, Joy and the whole life explodes. 19:22 So people have got to understand that when they make 19:25 a decision and say I'm going to do this and cut myself 19:27 off from any other possibility. 19:28 Let me illustrate it this way. 19:29 I do want to say something with that, I thought that if 19:34 I was going to make a decision at cut something off, 19:36 especially something that I perceived gave me pleasure, 19:39 that I would just be miserable the rest of my life. 19:43 But what is really interesting is God, I felt like the 19:46 Holy Spirit is just screaming that is just so not true. 19:48 Somebody has lied to you and it is like being able to say 19:51 that we are uncommitted and we have lost because of it. 19:54 Once you make the commitment is the happiest 19:56 life in the world. 19:58 Because you become in control again and you become 19:59 real and present in your own life. - exactly! 20:01 It's powerful. - man, it's huge. 20:02 You see we liken this process of getting on the river of life. 20:06 Many of us get on the river of life and we get caught up 20:08 in the current how current events, current culture, 20:10 current fashions or whatever. 20:11 We become part of this mass of humanity that is floating 20:14 down the river directed by the environment rather than being in 20:16 control of it, and most people remain in this unconscious 20:19 state until one day the sound of raging water wakes them 20:22 our and they realize they are three feet away from a major 20:24 waterfall in a boat without a motor. 20:25 That could be cancer, that could be divorce, that could 20:28 be a child acting out. - what happens they take a fall. 20:30 They go over the waterfall and when you fall it hurts. 20:33 Like you say sometimes it's a spiritual fall, you feel 20:35 disconnected from God like He hates you. 20:37 Or sometimes it is an emotional fall and we end up on 20:41 drugs or things to keep our emotions together. 20:43 Sometimes it's a fall on our relationships, but what the 20:46 point is when you fall it hurts. 20:47 So we try to raise the awareness in the seminars is this. 20:50 If you look back upstream, if you had made a different 20:54 decision up stream, would your life be radically different 20:57 today, and would you not be dealing with the issues 20:59 you're dealing with today? 21:00 Most people say Yeah, if I made that decision up stream. 21:02 Upstream I would have said does anybody have an ore? 21:05 - all right! - Because I am sitting there with nothing. 21:10 Do we have a little motor that I can put on that thing? 21:12 Right, so we just encourage people to recognize that God 21:16 has given you one precious gift, it's the one thing in 21:18 your life He will not interfere with, it is the one gift 21:20 that sets you apart and that is freedom to choose. 21:23 Choose ye this day and that pertains to every area 21:26 of your life. - even 10 years on the street I could lie 21:31 better than most people, I can manipulate better than most 21:34 people and I would start to say something and God would 21:37 say Cheri, tell the truth. I'm thinking get out! 21:40 Because it's not going to work here and God said to tell the 21:44 truth anyway, tell the truth anyway. 21:46 Almost when you start doing that is that you literally 21:50 change your whole body, neuro mind, chemistry stuff. 21:55 You do, you really do. - it's so significant and I 21:58 think we don't think it's significant. 22:00 I don't think that choosing right is going to give me 22:03 life, doing the right thing is going to give me life. 22:06 And my family, and my husband, and the people I worship 22:09 with, and it's just like a ripple effect that affects 22:12 everybody around you. 22:13 In fact I really look like what you say about the ripple 22:15 effect, in fact we have an illustration we use in our 22:17 seminar is like a rock thrown in a pond, one good decision 22:20 or bad decision will have a ripple effect and goes 22:22 on for generations sometimes. 22:24 We have a situation in the Middle East right now with 22:26 war on terrorism and what have the Arabs that hate the 22:29 Israelis, and the Israelis that hate the Arabs and this 22:31 feud has been going since I was born and people wonder where did 22:35 this really actually start? 22:36 It started over 4000 years ago with one man who made some 22:39 bad decisions, Abraham and he decides he has to do it his 22:43 way and help God. 22:44 So he gets Hagar pregnant and his wife pregnant and you have 22:47 one dad and two different ladies. 22:48 These two boys grow hating each other and they get 22:50 married and their wives hate each other and Isaac becomes 22:52 the father of the Israeli nation and Ishmael becomes a 22:54 father of the Arab nation and the family feud has been 22:56 going on for 4000 years and we are paying for it with 22:58 our tax dollars and our sons and daughters are dying on 23:01 the battlefield because 4000 years ago somebody made 23:03 a bad decision you see. 23:05 It all matters, everything matters. 23:07 You can make a decision today that can affect not only 23:09 your life, this is where I think the second commandment 23:12 comes in, unto the third and fourth generations and 23:14 sometimes even for thousands of years so don't ever 23:16 underestimate the power of this thing called decisions. 23:20 To me I love the way you say that, because on the other 23:23 side of that I can make a decision that changes 23:25 generationally for the positive. 23:27 My daughter has never done a drug and I'm a drug addict, 23:31 my mom is a drug addict, my grandmother is an alcoholic, 23:34 and my daughter has never done a drug and I'm thinking, 23:36 God I love that because I decided it stopped with me. 23:40 There are fives to strategic areas when it comes to 23:43 decisions, first when is your core beliefs 23:45 and your unconscious roles. 23:46 The second one is your lifestyle. 23:48 The 3rd, what is your references or experiences of life. 23:50 The fourth is habitual questions you ask yourself. 23:52 The fifth one is the emotional stage you experience. 23:54 Those five areas, when you make decisions in those five 23:57 areas they influence every other area of your life. 24:01 By making a change in any way in those five areas you can 24:04 produce immediate change in your life as well. 24:05 Let me give you one quick example. 24:07 We teach our young people all the time, don't do drugs, 24:09 don't have pre-marital sex, don't do that, as soon as 24:12 you tell somebody don't do something, what do they do? 24:14 They do it, that's why it is called human nature. 24:15 Here is what I find it is. Rather than to tell young 24:19 people don't do this, why don't we teach them to say yes 24:22 to virtue, that is the point you want to bring out. 24:24 In other words I am not going to teach my daughter to 24:26 say no to drugs, I'm going to teach her to say yes 24:28 to a healthy body, yes that my body is the temple 24:31 of the Holy Spirit of God. 24:32 Because when I teach her to say yes to virtue, 24:34 I don't have to worry about the drugs. 24:35 I'm not going to teach her to not have premarital sex. 24:37 I'm going to teacher to say yes to be a virgin until 24:40 the day she gets married. 24:41 As people are coming out of addictions and challenges 24:43 in their life - and value that. 24:44 Yes, exactly and have a covenant between us. 24:46 As people come out of addictions we all have certain addictions 24:49 we all have come out with them whatever it may be. 24:51 All in all of us in this audience today have challenges 24:53 in our life I have found over and over again when 24:55 you quit focusing on the negative, don't, don't, don't, 24:56 and focus on yes, I'm going to do this. 24:58 It is like a farmer, if I get a farmer out here in this 25:02 beautiful state we are at and he is growing corn. 25:04 He is hoeing his corn and eliminating the weeds. 25:06 I say to him what is your primary agricultural aim? 25:08 Is it to eliminate all these weeds? 25:10 He's got say no, no my primary agricultural aim is to grow 25:13 a great crop of corn. 25:14 We often teach like eliminating the weeds was the most important 25:18 thing in our life, no, sow the good seed, sow the positive 25:20 decisions because when you do that you will reap an 25:22 abundant harvest and that's what we need to focus on. 25:24 On that note we are going to take a break and we are going 25:28 to let people go get a pen and paper because you are going 25:31 to want write some of this stuff down. 25:32 But when you get all this stuff together, come back, 25:35 sit down and join us, we will be right back. 25:42 Think you've seen it all? Think again. 25:45 Cheri Peters is back for a second season of 25:49 Celebrating Life In Recovery with more lives 25:52 more stories and more miracles. 25:55 Watch the shocking, inspiring, and the incredible. 25:59 Check your local listings to find out when 26:01 Celebrating Life In Recovery comes to you and get 26:05 ready for another dose of reality, Cheri style. 26:24 When you gave the illustration about the farmer in the 26:27 seed, I always thought that recovery was about the weeds. 26:31 If so isn't, if you can get that mind shift that is a 26:34 paradigm shift that has to happen in recovery is I 26:36 don't know what's good and that is what I have got to find out. 26:40 As soon as I make those decisions to choose I am not 26:42 going to focus on the weeds, I will pull them out when I see 26:45 them, but I will not focus on them because I want to plant 26:48 something that is incredible. 26:50 Exactly, Yep, we often see the fruits in the addictions 26:54 and the problems or whatever. 26:55 The fruits are not the problem, the roots are the problem. 26:57 You have to get down to the roots and change the roots. 26:59 When you change the roots everything becomes easy. 27:01 That is amazing. - that is fun. 27:02 When I took piano lessons and drawing lessons and then 27:06 I decided to see what else can I do. 27:09 I was amazed that God, it was like He was so excited for 27:12 me to get up in the morning because he said Cheri I want 27:14 to kiss you on the face and I want to show you this. 27:17 It was the first time in my life that I didn't get up with 27:21 this dread that I'm a molested kid, and homeless and that 27:24 stuff and God said, you are a child of God dressed in 27:26 priestly garments and I want to send you out to change 27:29 the world, and I am thinking Yahoo. 27:32 How cool is that, but I have to let go of one in order to 27:37 grasp the other. - that's right! 27:39 Emotionally it is really tough. 27:40 We should go into this area little bit too because right 27:43 now is a huge area that all of us struggle with again 27:46 coming out a particularly certain addictions. 27:48 Emotional, the negative emotions that we experience 27:51 whether it is depression, whether it is anger, whether 27:53 it is frustration, fear, all the negative debilitating emotions 27:56 is a huge part of people's lives. 27:58 Also that I believe can be changed quickly by God's 28:01 principles. - and when somebody said, when I first 28:04 started to look at emotions, I grabbed a book by Don 28:08 Colbert called 'Deadly Emotions' and what he says is that 28:11 you literally can kill yourself by your anger, depression, 28:15 or whatever can cause heart disease and stuff. 28:17 When you go into the brain functions and all the stuff 28:20 that is tied in neuroscience, one negative emotion can 28:23 literally trigger an entire chemistry change in your body. 28:26 It can cause cancer or all kinds of physical problems. 28:28 Why didn't somebody tell me that? It's a big deal? 28:31 The things I found out is most people don't know how to 28:33 deal with their emotions, they don't know what is causing 28:35 their emotions and we need to take the next couple minutes 28:38 to deal with this, it will set the audience free. 28:39 I'm sure tens or hundreds of thousands of people around 28:43 the world and it will change their life quickly. 28:45 You can take the most famous people in the world, I don't 28:47 care if it's the Elvis Presley's, the Marilyn Monroe's, 28:49 the Karen Carpenter's, whoever. 28:51 These people had every reason to be happy, they had fame, 28:53 Fortune, everything but all of them 28:55 caused their own death. 28:56 Here's the reason, they used drugs, they used alcohol and 28:58 interestingly they used food to change how they felt 29:01 and they paid the ultimate price. 29:02 So I always asked people one simple question. 29:04 What do you want out of life? 29:05 Most people won't answer that question they give the 29:07 general answer like I want to be married, or a lot more 29:09 money, but when you think about it, 29:11 it is not those things. 29:12 What we're saying when I say I want more money, or being 29:15 married, or I want a new car, we actually want those 29:17 things they will give us. 29:19 Because when someone wants to get married is not 29:21 marriage that you want, it's companionship, 29:23 it's love, its intimacy. 29:25 When you want more money what you're saying is 29:27 I want more freedom and less worries, I want to be 29:28 able to contribute to worthy causes. 29:30 When you think about anything you want your life, 29:32 do you know what it boils down to? One thing! 29:34 It makes me feel good. It makes me feel happy. 29:37 It makes me feel secure so emotions or feelings are 29:40 a huge part of our life. 29:44 There are people that want to control and people who do 29:46 not want to control their emotions. 29:47 I'm going to teach you how to do it with a couple minutes 29:49 from the audience, we have fun with this. 29:51 Whenever we do a live seminar like this. 29:53 The first thing I will do is say will bring a guy on 29:54 the stage and say alright folks I want you to help me 29:56 get this guy depressed, okay? 29:57 - okay I'll be the guy. - you'll be the guy? 29:59 I don't get depressed easy anymore. 30:03 Of course you are a child of God and the Holy Spirit's 30:06 in you so you can't get depressed. 30:07 Let me explain how this works. 30:08 Most people do not realize it but every emotion you feel 30:11 or experience happens in only one dimension of your life. 30:14 Your physical body, now most people this has never dawned 30:17 on them, it only happens in your physical body. 30:19 So if I were to say to the group here, help me to get 30:21 Cheri depressed, what would she have to do? 30:23 - and be nice to me! 30:25 How would she have to act and the answers are always the 30:28 same, the audience will say things like she has to hang 30:30 her head, and put her frown on her face. 30:33 So she puts her frown on her face right? 30:35 Then say slumped shoulders, she slumps her shoulders. 30:36 Then wring her hands, so she wrings her hands. 30:39 Think of all the people that have hurt you, life's unfair. 30:42 And if you start looking at her she looks depressed right? 30:45 The audience is laughing at this point and here's the 30:49 amazing thing - at my depression. 30:52 But you know you start to feel it. 30:54 - You do and this is what I want to point out. 30:56 To the audience listen, everything you told me to get 31:00 Cheri depressed happened only in one dimension, did you 31:03 notice this? It happened in her physical body. 31:05 Did that ever dawn on you? 31:06 First of all you put your head down, 31:08 that is your physical body, frown now. 31:10 Slump your shoulders, physical body, everything that got 31:14 you depressed happened in your physical body. 31:16 Most people don't realize that, then we do another 31:17 experiment with the audience, we get the whole audience 31:19 having so much fun. 31:20 So we asked them to pick partners, so everybody pick 31:23 partners and face that person face-to-face. 31:24 Let's do it right now, just face each other, face each other. 31:28 But the biggest happiest smile on your face, just really 31:31 smile and now with this big smile on your face you can't 31:35 take it off, you have to keep on smiling. 31:36 I want you to get mad at that person and tell them how 31:39 much you hate them and can't stand them. 31:40 Oh Leo you know I am so mad at you, you can't do it! 31:45 You can't do it and here's the reason why. 31:47 The audience cracks up when we do this 31:50 it's funny because I can see her want to say Cheri 31:53 I hate you, I hate your guts but it just the work. 31:56 Because my body is sending a different message 31:58 to my brain, if I put my physical body in a state of 32:01 happiness I can try all I want to get angry and 32:03 I can't do it, that is the power of the physical body 32:06 that God gave us. 32:07 99% of people have never discovered this when it comes 32:09 to controlling their emotions. 32:10 Wait, you are saying if somebody in the audience right now 32:14 even viewing us, that is feeling horrible smile and see 32:17 what happens and you will feel it even if it is a little 32:21 bit you will feel throughout your body. 32:22 You have to, let me explain why. 32:24 Culture has taught you the opposite of what God teaches. 32:26 Let me give you a couple Bible verses. 32:27 Proverbs 15:13 Solomon says the happiest face means a 32:31 glad heart, a sad face means a breaking heart. 32:35 Now culture is the exact opposite, or you are feeling bad 32:37 somebody hurt you, you have permission to put on a sad 32:39 face, no, no, no. You put on the sad face and when 32:42 you do the Bible says you're going 32:43 to get the corresponding emotion, a breaking heart. 32:46 If you put on a happy face he says 32:47 you're going to have a glad heart. 32:49 The second verses in Proverbs 15:30 he says when 32:51 a man is gloomy, everything seems to go wrong, 32:53 when he's cheerful everything seems to go right. 32:54 Pleasant sights and good reports improves the health. 32:58 So what God does - so why does things work out for you. 33:01 I think it is because I literally have been miserable 33:05 most of my life before God and I refuse to live that way 33:08 anymore, I just refuse. 33:10 I want to not only be happy myself, but I want to be able 33:13 to share that with someone else so that they are smiling 33:16 by the time we get done. 33:18 What you are doing with your body makes all the 33:20 difference, and you think about this. 33:22 The culture has taught you I can blame this person, this 33:24 person, but boss makes me frustrated, my wife makes me. 33:27 And they did mess up, but it doesn't matter because 33:30 I want to live life today. 33:31 I want to choose how I have my physical body. 33:33 If I choose to put it in a state of happiness, God says 33:34 I will get the corresponding emotion. 33:36 I want to really nail this because this whole addiction's 33:39 issue, most people focus on addiction, they take drugs, 33:43 they get drunk, they have fear or sex, gambling or 33:45 whatever it is, do you know what the real problem is? 33:48 Why do we have two thirds of people overweight, I will 33:50 tell you why, people hate themselves. 33:52 They hate how they feel and what I put drugs in my body. 33:55 Let me ask you a simple question and see if the audience 33:57 gets it, do drugs work? Yes or no! 33:59 Yes - yes they work. 34:00 You nailed it because that's your past. 34:02 Most audience say that drugs don't work, they work. 34:04 Millions of people can't be wrong, right? 34:06 What is really interesting is what I came off drugs and 34:10 I'm not doing drugs, I find out that 5 million people are 34:14 taking Prozac, 5 million people are taking tranquilizers, 34:17 3 million people are taking sleep aids, 16,000 tons of 34:20 aspirins are being taken a year in the United States. 34:24 It works, - the thing is it works temporarily. 34:27 It's the same thing with alcohol why do people go out get 34:29 drunk on a Saturday night? Because it works. 34:32 It works temporarily but it works. 34:34 Why do people overeat, because it works, I feel good when 34:37 I overeat but what we don't realize is that when I put a 34:40 drug in this body you know what I'm actually doing? 34:42 I'm changing my physical body, when I change the body 34:45 I behave differently. 34:46 Same thing with overheating, same thing with alcohol, 34:48 when I put it in it changes my body and I behave 34:50 differently and so people are looking for drugs. 34:52 They are looking at all these other things they do 34:54 with their bodies and they don't realize that 34:55 God's already has given them the answer. 34:56 Change the body to a state of happiness and go into ever 34:59 area, walking, talking, all these parts of our body. 35:02 I was standing in a prudential insurance at their 35:06 corporate seminar and it was funny because we had a 35:10 CEO come in, I was interviewing the CEO. 35:12 This guy comes in and if I replicated him he sat down 35:15 like this, watch my body. 35:16 Leo, I'm so discouraged. - like you are! 35:25 He is looking at me and says I can't seem to motivate my 35:30 employees, I can't help but I cracked up. 35:34 I'm not supposed to crack up and supposed to be 35:35 a professional, anyway I said, the problem is look at 35:38 your body, but what you are talking 35:39 your voice is giving you away. 35:41 If you talk sad, or you talk low they are going 35:44 to feel that way. 35:45 The way you walk, watch how people walk, they slough 35:47 along with no passion, no purpose, no past, no future. 35:50 Try walking like that and you're going to die. 35:52 Walk with some confidence come put your head back and take 35:54 a deep breath of air and see how you feel. 35:56 He goes into all these different areas, your face. 35:58 Have you noticed that whatever face you put on, 36:00 you get the corresponding emotion? 36:02 Some people always have a sad face right? 36:04 And they wonder why they are sad. 36:05 Some people have a worried face, and you wonder why 36:08 they're always worried. 36:09 Other people have a mean face, make my day pal, we have all 36:12 these corresponding emotions from these faces. 36:15 God gave you a face but He left it up to you to 36:18 give it an expression. 36:19 But people will say that it's just who I am. 36:21 And that's where the lie is. - what does that mean? 36:23 It means nothing but you hear that all the time. 36:25 It is just who I am, it is who I have always been. 36:28 What I found out is that was such a lie and when 36:31 I became what God wanted me to become it was nothing 36:34 like how I was raised. 36:36 I'm actually pretty good, pretty neat, not good in my 36:39 behavior but all of a sudden I thought I actually like 36:42 being in my own skin now and I never have in my life. 36:46 I can pick the people that I want to hang around me and 36:49 people that have passion and a love life and stuff. 36:52 I would never have thought I could do that so when people 36:55 say this is who I am, I just want to say somebody lied to 36:58 you because it is not, it's so is not. 37:00 It's not what it used to be. 37:02 Look at the joy of the Lord is your strength, look when 37:04 God says we'll mount up like eagles, run and not be weary. 37:07 To live life 100% where God wants us and all it takes is 37:10 following His principles, I can choose to do with this 37:13 body whatever I want, it is my choice. 37:15 Think about it sadness, depression in most cases, anger, 37:18 frustration, all these deep debilitating emotions are 37:22 our choice, I choose not to live that way. 37:24 I choose to put the body into a state of happiness 37:26 whether it is the way I walk, the way I talk, 37:28 the way I smile and move my face. 37:30 You know you have 108 muscles in your face, it takes 104 37:32 to frown, try it! 37:34 It's hard to frown it takes six to smile so we teach 37:38 parents in our parenting classes, we have trigger 37:43 points that make us feel a certain emotions. 37:45 Your kids know you trigger points because they know just 37:47 what buttons to push. 37:48 Mine used to be 10 feet out, you walk by anywhere in the 37:51 country I lived in and you would hit it. 37:53 Even as someone who looks angry, with parents all the time 37:59 they say my kids make me angry. 38:00 No they don't make you angry take responsibility for 38:02 your life, your kids never make you angry unless you 38:03 give them permission to. 38:05 You choose to get angry when they say this. - exactly. 38:07 When they push certain trigger points, all they have to 38:09 do, there's only 3 things wrong with the physical body. 38:11 One your faces contorted, your face is messed up. 38:14 Second thing is your words, part of your physical body 38:16 also, children get back in your room. 38:18 Your words out of control. 38:19 The third thing is sure gestures, when you're angry 38:21 you're flinging your arms - her shoulders come up to your ears. 38:24 So you have three things wrong with your body and here's 38:27 what you do, next time Johnny pushes your button. 38:28 You put on a smile, you talk calmly, you have calm gestures 38:34 and little Johnny's going to look at you and say huh! 38:37 Who is this person. 38:38 I thought this person was going to come out. 38:40 It is simply by controlling our physical body. 38:42 One of the first things that God gave me permission to 38:46 look at when I felt insecure, insecurity was my worst 38:49 thing, when you feel insecure where do you feel that in 38:52 your body, in my shoulders, in my chest and He said when 38:56 you start feeling that long before it is in your face, 38:59 start bringing your body back into a place of contentment 39:02 or joy and it is amazing. 39:05 It sounds so simple but that's the way God is. 39:07 Exactly, this is not complicated psychology, this is basic 39:11 Bible principles and they work. 39:14 When you get intense, when you're breathing starts being 39:17 more shallow and rapid, take a deeper breath to get things 39:20 going and it is amazing that all the sudden I can respond 39:23 in a different way because my body is not congruent with 39:26 what I am thinking. 39:28 That's what God gave us, He gave us our physical bodies. 39:30 It's huge. - it's huge! - it's so powerful. 39:32 We are going to open it up for questions here at the café. 39:35 So that is my favorite part because I know with everything 39:38 that you have presented people have questions. 39:41 So we are going to start with Trent, I know you had 39:44 something that you wanted to ask Leo. 39:45 Yeah I have a couple questions for Leo. 39:48 One, where did you learn to talk so fast? 39:50 This is cool. - it's my mother, it's my mother. 39:53 You ever been around my mom you would know why. 39:56 No, at the beginning of the program you talk about people 39:59 living in their past and you said you have to get out of 40:02 that and let go of your past, you can't live in the past. 40:05 The only ways to go forward, what would be your number 40:08 one way to get out of the past for those people you know 40:11 that live in the past constantly and that is 40:13 all they think about. 40:14 What would be the first that they should take and the most 40:16 important step that should take to quit living like that? 40:19 First of all it is a choice, and I think people ought to 40:22 take responsibility for that choice. 40:23 I'm very keen on that, but you cannot take the step 40:26 without God, you cannot take it without forgiveness. 40:28 A big part of getting rid of your past is saying that I am 40:31 willing to let God forgive me and willing to accept the 40:34 fact that if I confess my sins He's faithful and just to 40:36 forgive me my sins and cleanse me from all 40:38 unrighteousness. To look at the fact that I am clothed in 40:40 the righteousness of Jesus and He presents me faultless 40:42 and perfect before His thorn of glory with exceeding joy. 40:45 I have to choose to believe the side of light and joy and 40:48 freedom of who God has made me. 40:50 There is no more condemnation in Christ, all these things 40:53 that God does for me. 40:54 And when I choose to accept that instead of Satan lies by 40:56 saying I'm no good and that my past is too dark and shameful 40:59 and you are never going to amount to anything, 41:00 why listen to the devil? 41:02 There comes a choice that can only be done, you can only 41:04 put your past behind you when you know what God has done 41:07 for you and you except His forgiveness, not only from God 41:09 but to forgive yourself. 41:10 Also forgiving the people that have so kept you in 41:13 bondage with that, that was the hardest for me. 41:16 I took forgiveness as being that I had to forgive them 41:19 and somehow come to grips with what they had done to me. 41:23 God said that is not it, forgive them and let Me deal 41:26 with that issue. 41:27 I love the people that have hurt me in my past, 41:29 but I needed to say that I forgive them, they have been 41:32 hurt in their past and I don't need to understand it 41:34 but I totally have to deal with forgiveness. 41:37 With mom, dad, whoever. 41:39 Without forgiveness is like hating, bitterness and anger 41:45 you are trying to poison somebody else and to kill them 41:50 but end up poisoning yourself, you can't do that. 41:52 So it only comes by the grace of God, and whenever it 41:55 happens it's nice. 41:57 You know a lot of people, it that sounds like, that do 42:01 walk around holding their stuff. 42:03 Yeah I think we all know and a lot of people like that, 42:06 Society is filled with them. 42:07 Leo I have another question, you said there is five steps 42:10 in decision-making and if we control those steps we can 42:13 change our lives. 42:14 One of them you said was unconscious decisions, 42:16 what do you mean by those? 42:18 The unconscious rules is the actual words. 42:20 Let me give you an example of that, 42:21 it is a great question. 42:22 I get to do a lot of work with young people and in Christian 42:25 schools, I'm not sure you're aware of the latest statistic. 42:29 86% of Christian young people going to Christian schools 42:31 by the time they graduate have experimented with drugs, 42:34 alcohol and premarital sex. 42:36 Now having said that with these kids thousands of times, 42:39 I know that they all know that drugs are horrible choices. 42:42 They all know that smoking is bad for them. 42:44 They all know that premarital sex is going to cause 42:46 emotional damage and scars for the rest of their life. 42:48 They all know it, and yet 86% of them, of Christian young 42:51 people end up doing it. So the question is why? 42:54 The answer is this, unconscious rules. 42:56 They think if I don't go to a party they are going to make 42:58 fun of me, they think if I don't have premarital sex the 43:00 guys will think I'm frigid. 43:01 They are always worried about what other people think 43:04 about them that is an unconscious rule and it causes 43:06 them to make many, many painful decisions in 43:09 their lives because they do not realize 43:11 I have this unconscious rule there. 43:12 I have to fit in, I have to be liked. 43:14 It's peer pressure is what it boils down to and so when 43:17 we teach them we say hey, I'm going to make a clear-cut 43:21 decision and here is what it is. 43:22 I don't care anymore what anyone thinks about me except 43:24 God, and doing it God's way. 43:26 I'm going to make my own choices and not let other peer 43:29 pressure make me make bad decisions. 43:31 That is an unconscious rule in our lives when we go 43:33 witnessing, when people slammed the door in my face it is 43:36 an unconscious rule you see. 43:37 So when you make a clear decisions, listen I'm going 43:39 to go to this house believing there is a soul in there 43:41 to be saved for the kingdom of heaven. 43:43 I going in there is a candidate for heaven and I train my 43:46 brain to make that decision rather than oh they are 43:48 going to slam the door in my face. 43:49 See that is an unconscious rule. 43:50 In every area of our life when you start getting control 43:53 of both unconscious rules what a difference it can make. 43:55 My daughter is going to public high school, and she goes 43:58 into public high school and she believed that as a 44:01 Christian nobody was going to like her. 44:03 So she goes in there and she starts joining in and trying 44:06 to fit in and she said she was miserable. 44:09 I'm miserable and I know that God doesn't want this for me 44:12 so she turned her life over and she started, what's really 44:16 cool, abstinence program in her little group. 44:18 The people start being drawn to her because they didn't have 44:21 act out around her. 44:23 So her unconscious rule about nobody liking me for being 44:25 herself, when she was herself she was liked more. 44:28 Just being able to challenge those lies, the beeper has to 44:32 go off. - you bet, you got it. 44:34 Okay so Robby D. you had some questions. 44:36 Well what do you tell someone that has made so many wrong 44:39 choices in their lives that they're so afraid to make 44:42 another choice, they are like lock down and won't make 44:45 choices in life because they have made so many wrong 44:47 choices. - they are almost paralyzed. - yes. 44:49 They are paralyzed so they just choose 44:51 not to make any choices. 44:52 The issue there is fear and perhaps in the next segment 44:55 we can get into fear and learning how to overcome it. 44:57 Because Bible says that God does not give us the spirit 44:59 of fear but power, love and a sound mind. 45:01 So what we are looking at there is the symptom rather than 45:04 the root, so let's answer that question and maybe a little 45:07 more thorough way. 45:08 It begins like anything else, once you get rid of the fear 45:11 factor and you understand that you can make good 45:14 decisions, that God has empowered you with tools 45:16 to do it, if people will take one good decision at a time. 45:20 - tiny steps. - little steps. 45:22 It's like the old Chinese proverb, 45:23 How do you whole elephant? One bite at a time. 45:25 I told you that I took the music lessons, the art lessons, 45:28 it was so amazing to me. 45:30 I drew a little cup, a teacup and it was in perspective. 45:34 I had some shadow and perspective, 45:36 the guy was teaching us. 45:37 I looked at it and thought man, it looks like a cup. 45:41 To someone else that was such a simple thing, it couldn't 45:45 be life-changing, to me it was life-changing in that it 45:48 was a gift that I had, a skill that I had that was apart 45:50 from all this damage. 45:52 It was like we discount all the little stuff that really 45:55 will make a difference, and we want it to be huge. 45:58 We want to do something and say something that will change 46:00 the world, God says just change this one step. 46:03 Living a life of victory and power is one day at a time, 46:06 one choice following one of God's principles. 46:08 The culmination of daily small successes builds your life 46:12 to the life of victory and power that you want. 46:14 Even if you can have one Little victory in one little 46:16 area, that's for you find courage. 46:18 Like you said find a little area that you are good in 46:20 already, something you know you can master. 46:22 Something you know you feel confident about and when you 46:24 take that one little baby step it builds confidence and 46:26 the next step will build confidence, 46:27 that is how it is done. 46:28 Say that's why it is also good to have a personal one that 46:30 you are accountable to, someone that cares about you. 46:32 - friends, sponsor, pastor. 46:34 - yeah because they are going to pat you on the back and 46:35 say the man you did it and that was great. 46:36 It's like when a baby learns to to walk, our daughter, Sierra 46:39 learned to walk and I came home late, and my wife 46:42 said Leo, Leo, my wife waited up for me. 46:43 She said Leo, Leo I Sierra took her first step she can 46:47 walk, so we get little Sierra out of the room, out of bed, 46:50 that's not real good because my wife doesn't like. 46:53 She holds her over here and says come on Sierra make dad 46:56 proud of and she takes one step and falls flat on her 46:58 face, I didn't say you stupid kid can you learn to walk 47:01 and I hate you, no! 47:02 I picked her up and said that was great Sierra, one step 47:05 yeah you did it. 47:06 Step two she falls flat on her face. 47:08 As soon as she learned to walk she learned to trot and now 47:11 she's the terror of our house so that's the way it works. 47:14 That's how you have to encourage her, one step at a time. 47:16 What's funny is that I ended up getting a parenting book 47:18 in my recovery because I didn't know these principles. 47:21 So I got a book on how to parent myself, I mean how to 47:24 parent, and I decided to parent myself. 47:25 It said to really encourage yourself, or your 47:30 child when they have any little success. 47:32 I literally went out and set myself flowers, I sent a card 47:35 with them and it was like being able to say when you make 47:39 one thing for your friend, one thing that is different 47:42 than you had before, celebrate it. 47:45 Not celebrated with food, chocolate or something that is 47:48 going to give you more problems, but celebrate and make 47:51 sure you say out loud, good job! 47:53 How cool is that, that you are not going to live the rest 47:55 of your life depressed or angry or whatever. 47:58 That kind of affirmation is so very, very important. 48:00 The more you can do it, the more it pleases God. 48:03 What you are basically doing is just affirming scripture. 48:05 All through the Bible tells you how special you are. 48:07 God tells you that your clothed in His righteousness and 48:09 that He presents you faultless. 48:10 God says you are a child of the King, it's all positive. 48:13 All you are doing is affirming what God said about you. 48:15 Why not, instead of what Satan says. 48:17 - exactly, we have another question, Lois. 48:20 Do you, or have you concerned yourself with whether or not 48:24 people can understand you after you have spoken? 48:27 Or do you just leave up to the Holy Spirit to teach them? 48:30 Why do you ask? Because he talks so fast? 48:32 Yes! You are very entertaining. 48:35 You say it's entertaining! 48:37 I have this philosophy, I do not talk fast, people listen 48:41 slow. - I love that. 48:46 It is true I talk four times faster than the average 48:48 seminar speaker, but that is actually a good deal because 48:51 even if you catch half of what I say you still get twice 48:53 as much as most guys give you. 48:54 You still come out ahead, I'm kidding. 48:56 Here's the bottom line, we have done a lot of studies on 48:59 this as you can imagine. 49:00 I understand that we come from different walks of life, 49:02 language, cultures and different things like this. 49:04 We're old, we're young and I can tell you for sure though 49:07 I have sat down with thousands of audiences and if they will 49:10 hang in there with me for even half an hour to 45 minutes 49:13 their brain engages. 49:15 It is a matter of psychology, there are thousands 49:17 of studies on this. 49:18 The human mind is capable of listening to things 49:20 thousands of times faster even than I am talking to you 49:22 right now, literally thousands of times faster. 49:24 So what it is, it is a matter of training the brain to 49:28 engage and there has never been an audience I have sat down 49:31 with after 2 and 1/2 hours after opening night of our Power 49:34 Seminars and people say yes I heard every word you said, 49:36 because the brain engaged. 49:38 So we have had to ask the question, you watch audiences 49:41 and I will challenge anybody on this because we have done 49:44 hundreds of studies on it. 49:45 If we have a guy talking slow and methodical and I think 49:50 we should think about this, 49:55 exactly! - come on! 49:57 You would fall asleep man, this is the MTV generation. 49:59 Everything just changes every 2 and 1/2 seconds, words are 50:02 fast and I believe that is how God designed this was to 50:05 pack in a lot whole lot more. 50:06 And during our one seminar, said this last time we were 50:08 together, when you look at all a neuropathways in your 50:11 brain and you look at the capacity of your brain, we are 50:13 only using 2% of it. 50:15 I believe we should use a 100 percent so that is why 50:17 we talk fast and keep people engaged. 50:18 I'll tell you one thing, 99% of people they love it, 50:22 they enjoy it and get 10 times more out of it. 50:25 - what's funny though is that everybody I ever 50:28 interviewed you are my favorite to interview because 50:31 I feel like finally somebody is getting this on. 50:34 But you were the only person by the end of the time that 50:38 we hang out together, I am so ready for a nap. 50:40 It is amazing, I'm going to say to wrap it up, just for 50:44 somebody that is watching is how do they start? 50:47 Be specific because if I want to change my life and 50:49 I have been stuck in my past my whole life how do I start, 50:53 what do I do? 50:54 The bottom line is you have to look at your life right 50:56 now, I don't care where it's at, where you are at, 50:58 whatever the picture is right now. 50:59 Say hey, I have a bright future, God has said I'm a child 51:03 of the King and I am not junk. 51:05 I may have wasted some years, so what. 51:06 There is plan A., plan B. and there is no better time 51:08 to begin then today. 51:10 You must literally buckled down and say I'm going to 51:13 forget how I feel, I'm going to forget my past, 51:14 you have to follow that first principle by putting 51:16 your past behind you. 51:17 Make a decision that you are not a victim. 51:19 I am taken full responsibility of my life and my choices 51:21 from this day forward and I'm going to 51:22 take the first step. 51:24 I want to say what's incredible about that by saying that, 51:26 it doesn't matter how you feel. 51:28 When I start to feel those old things I have to rebuke 51:31 them, or have to say no longer, this is no longer mine. 51:34 When you say it enough that becomes the unconscious rule. 51:38 That is correct, that's correct. 51:39 And you must affirm the positive, this is just as 51:42 important, in other words don't just destroy the old 51:44 thought patterns but replace them with new ones. 51:46 We talked about that last time we were here. 51:48 Keep affirming the positive affirmation. 51:51 Once you are able to do that and take responsibility of 51:53 your life and get over that anger, the bitterness, 51:55 the hatred of people that hurt you and say hey, 51:58 I'm in control of this and I follow God's principles. 52:00 Once that happens you take one thing at a time. 52:03 Whether it is hanging around positive people. 52:06 Whether it is watching this 3ABN program. 52:08 - and at first you will hate it, you'll hate it because 52:10 it is not something you are used to, do it anyway. 52:13 The cardinal mine is at enmity with God. 52:14 When I first gave my heart to God I was so messed up as 52:17 a teenager as well, and the guy told me put a half hour 52:20 in God's Word every day, I hated it. 52:21 It was the most dumb boring book I ever read my life. 52:23 Again the reason is your cardinal mine is at enmity with 52:26 God, you will not naturally like things that are not the 52:28 way you use to be. 52:29 But any thing in life worth having you going to have to 52:31 put into it. - Do you know what somebody said? 52:33 You will laugh at this because it was so crazy to me. 52:36 So you lie to yourself? No, for the first time in your 52:39 life you tell yourself the truth. 52:40 For the first time is the truth that God loves you. 52:43 It's the truth that you have a great life and that you 52:46 were created to do something fun and exciting. 52:48 - you have been listening to things lies all your life 52:50 and you don't realize it, now you're beginning to believe 52:52 God's truth. - it sounds like a lie at first. 52:54 It is the strangest thing, but you have to persist in it. 52:56 What you can do to persist in it, just start to pick up 52:59 some of these practical tools that are in the Bible. 53:01 The power of decisions we talked about. 53:03 Anybody, right now you can make a decision. 53:05 Did it ever dawn on you that you could make any decision 53:07 you want and nobody in the universe can stop you. 53:10 That is so powerful to realize I have this power to 53:14 actually make a decision that I want. 53:16 If you don't like how you feel about yourself you can 53:17 make a decision to change it. 53:19 If you don't like how you look you can make a decision 53:20 to start eating right, nobody can stop you. 53:22 If you don't like your spiritual life, make a decision 53:24 to change it, if you don't like your relationship make 53:25 a decision to improve it. 53:27 God has given us that choice and He recognizes the one 53:30 thing He will not interfere with, He gives you complete 53:33 freedom, you are a free moral agent. 53:34 All heaven celebrates when you finally decide to decide. 53:38 Exact, exact and remember to not make a decision is 53:40 a decision, that's what most people don't realize. 53:43 If I sit on the fence and do nothing that is a decision. 53:46 So that proactive step, that moving forward in one little 53:48 area, it doesn't matter when you taste that first victory 53:51 it's good, it's good. 53:54 Then you just start to apply God's principles, if I can 53:56 emphasize one thing to this audience it would be this. 53:58 God's principles are there for every area of your life, 54:01 I don't care if it's physical, the diet we talk a lot 54:04 about that here on 3ABN. 54:05 Get your body healthy, when you have a healthy body you 54:08 have a healthy mind, just making those choices. 54:09 Same thing with your spiritual life, you don't have to 54:11 be like the majority of the people who go to church once 54:13 a week and warm the pew, no! 54:14 You can choose to be the most on fire Christian simply by 54:17 applying these beautiful Christian principles in the 54:20 Bible, it's choices again, that your spiritual life. 54:22 It applies to your emotional life, use the power of your 54:24 physical body, just one little change. 54:26 - smile! - yes smile, just that one little tool and 54:29 practicing it can change your destiny for ever. 54:31 The same thing in every area of your life. 54:35 I have a friend that is very negative and she said 54:37 I decided, because God showed her through the Holy Spirit, 54:40 I decided that I couldn't complain anymore. 54:43 She said at first I didn't speak at all. 54:48 But now she has a life that is full of joy and she is 54:50 surprised that it changed everything. 54:52 One man said that once he decided to quit swearing he 54:54 dropped his vocabulary by 90%. 54:59 That is too funny, you know Leo we are going to have to 55:02 do part two because we want to have you back and cover 55:05 all this stuff and I know that you have a ton more to 55:08 cover. - okay let's do it. 55:10 Thank you for being on the show. - it's been a pleasure. 55:12 You know if you are dealing with anything, with anything. 55:15 If you have felt like your whole life is stuck, 55:16 I have been stuck with this my entire life, 55:18 I'm telling you it's a lie and it needs to be changed. 55:21 I come from homelessness and being depressed, wanting to 55:24 kill myself every day, and I do not feel like that ever, 55:27 absolutely ever. 55:30 Gods says I want you to wake up laughing out loud. 55:34 When so many takes me out, I'm going to be laughing out 55:37 loud, when the second coming comes and I'm raise back up, 55:41 I'm laughing because God has changed my life. 55:43 Stay with us we will be right back. 55:50 Cheri Peters uses the book, 'Coming Of The Comforter' 55:53 as a guide for the second season of Celebrating Life In 55:57 Recovery, written by Lee Roy E. Froom is a 320 page book 56:00 that offers every sinner the knowledge that the 56:03 Holy Spirit is available to all. 56:05 3ABN now offers this book to you for a suggested donation 56:09 of only $13 postpaid within the US. 56:12 Call 3ABN at 618-627-4651 or go online to 3ABN.org. 56:33 I love having Leo on the show, and it must feel 56:36 incredible to teach what he teaches with these Power 56:38 Seminars because it really does change lives. 56:41 When I first came off the street and I first got into 56:43 recovery I spent years and years and years trying to 56:45 fight this stuff and one I realized I could change. 56:48 I have the right to change and I don't have to live my 56:51 life this way, when I started to do things differently 56:53 and think differently, to challenge my thinking. 56:56 When I told myself your stupid because I was off the 56:59 street, I was illiterate and couldn't read and I used 57:01 to say your stupid and I realized I'm not stupid, 57:04 I just couldn't read. 57:05 Start telling yourself the truth and everything changes. 57:07 Like it's amazing and life starts pouring into you. 57:10 You can start laughing out loud and I want to tell 57:13 everybody, if I see somebody at the gas station that looks 57:15 miserable I want to say, hey, you don't have to be 57:18 miserable, what are you telling yourself? 57:20 Do something different, eat different, take a walk take a 57:24 breath, exercise and when I see somebody heavy and they 57:27 look like they are just dying every step is work. 57:30 I want to tell them, Hun you don't have to be that way. 57:32 If you are listening to this show you don't have to be 57:34 that way, Satan has lied to us, the devil has lied to us. 57:37 People have lied to us, turn the TV off and don't look at 57:40 another donut commercial. 57:41 Do you know I mean? Go and do something that is healthy 57:45 for yourself, go and ask God. 57:47 The Holy Spirit will talk to you, ask God and if you need 57:49 to ask Him every day until you start recognizing His 57:52 voice, ask Him God how can I start this? 57:55 Then start taking little steps, start refusing to think 57:58 the way you think in your life and start refusing all that 58:02 and let God pour into you and let Him teach you and you 58:05 will be like everybody else that has found the secret, 58:08 that life is good. 58:10 Life is good and there is joy, and the Bible says the joy 58:14 of the Lord is our strength because every single lie about 58:17 us gets confronted as we start knowing the truth and the 58:21 truth of sets us free. 58:22 See you next time and always remember that God is crazy 58:24 about you, definitely and so are we. |
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