Welcome To Celebrating
Life in Recovery; today we are
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going to brag on
Jesus and how He uses us.
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It's too cool! Come and join us.
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On a show we are going to
brag on Christ, that is my
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favorite thing to do.
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If you are Christ's follower,
He sends you out as if you
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were a letter back to your
family, back to the village,
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back to the
Street where you live.
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Jesus dwelling in you
desires to speak to the heart of
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those who are not
quite acquainted with Him.
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He wants to speak to them
through you. Sometimes they have
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never seen the Bible, they
have never heard of Christ,
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they do not know what it
feels like to be forgiven, to
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have all that junk brought
up and removed from them.
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So for us, we are
who tells them that.
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I love the fact with the
demoniac, I know I've told this
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story before, but when I
first read the Bible or had
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somebody read me the
story of the demoniac.
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Larry you will love this,
because they said the guy was
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crazy, right? Absolutely
crazy and I'm thinking okay.
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Foaming at the mouth, alright
did I tell you he is ugly?
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I said alright he is ugly,
he's crazy, he's foaming at the
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mouth, filled
with a thousand demons.
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I'm thinking I think I dated
that guy. Thinking what happened
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Jesus goes in and just loves
on him, pulls the demons out.
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Not because he asked, because
when he came up to Christ,
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he just cussed Him out.
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I think, you did? You
cursed out Christ Himself?
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What happened? Did He
like zap you? You just totally
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disintegrated? No! He
said there was a small part in
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this guy's heart that
wanted to be well, and Jesus
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responded to that and pulled
all the demons out, went to
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the water and washed him
up and cleaned him up and
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restored him to his right mind.
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I said, oh please,
restore me. Restore me.
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And I think what an incredible
thing to do, that God wants
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to come in and restore
us, and this guy said to Jesus
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right away, come on
and take me with You.
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You know your going to go out
and change the world, your going
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to love on people and do
the same thing You did with me.
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I want to go. He said no,
no, no, go back home and tell
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them, tell them what I did.
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I'm thinking, how cool
is that? How cool is that?
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He goes back home, and
some people go back home and be
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cleaned up from all kinds
of stuff that God has rescued.
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They have been in prison,
they've beat people and all that
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stuff, and they go back
home and tell somebody I had
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a little bit of
problem with anger once.
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You are filled with a thousand
demons, don't even lie to me.
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No way, it wasn't a little
problem with anger, you were
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strung out on porn,
and you beat your wife.
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You put pillows over your
kids and suffocated them so they
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go to sleep and God
says, I know all that.
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I forgive you, but go
tell somebody that that is what
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I rescued you
from, you know why?
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It vindicates God, it
tells the world that God is
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capable of coming into
all our mess, pulling it out
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of us and restoring us
to sanity and giving us joy.
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Giving us a purpose to
live for and all that stuff.
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So I just have to
brag on Him, I love that.
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So in my first part of recovery,
and we talked about this.
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I talked about the
recovery from heroin addiction,
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homelessness, you know
what? I could manipulate better
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than well better than most
people I ran with because if
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anybody was better than me
I just ran with someone else.
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No, but I could manipulate,
run games, strung out on
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heroin and all that
stuff and God was real faithful
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with all that recovery stuff.
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But when I started to
getting cleaner and I looked as
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good as the next person
in church I was like Man, I
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could sit next to Freddie
and I would look just as good.
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You know I could do that,
I thought how cool was that?
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God says, we are not
done yet Hon, we're not done.
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I want to introduce you to
the people at the café first.
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Then I'm going to tell
you what I mean by we are not
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done yet, and that I
would like to introduce you to
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Freddie and Cliff Harris.
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So first of all I want to
say, you have been on the show
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before and thanks for
coming back, I love you guys.
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I love the work you
guys do. - thank you.
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Susan you are here from
Nebraska, Curly you have been on
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the show before and
thank you for coming back.
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Larry, you know it is always
fun to have cowboys on the
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show, because you see I'm
from Idaho, so there's cowboys
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all around us, so
thanks for coming.
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And Fa'asoa, you are going in
to the pastorate which I love,
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I can't wait till you to
get your own church and I'm just
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going to come and bug
you, I just can't wait.
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We are talking about bragging
on God, and bragging on God
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every single step of the way.
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Because initially He had some
tons, I thought initially He had
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so much work, I didn't even
know how to eat with someone.
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Somebody would say you
want to have potluck with us,
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and I would be going,
like my palm's would sweat.
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I would think I do not know
how to do that, and it's too
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much anxiety, and I am
afraid, I didn't know how to
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socialize, I definitely didn't
know how to talk like normal
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folks talk so I was
always not okay with that.
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And as I got better, I'm
thinking wow, how fun is that?
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He worked through major issues,
He even gave me new teeth
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because I had gotten beaten
by a motorcycle gang and knocked
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some teeth out, and I had
so much fear as far as to be
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touched, you
couldn't brush up against me.
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If you brushed up against
me, I would for a long time
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wonder what the
motive was, what's up?
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What do you want from me?
So just to heal from that kind
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of space issues and
trust issues took God forever.
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You know what took Him
the longest, and I love this.
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Is I thought I
knew what to work on.
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Oh no God, not that,
let's work on this over here.
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God would be going like oh
baby girl, it's not even that.
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That is not even the issue,
but I would think I knew and
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He would let me run after
things and work on whatever.
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He would always bring me back.
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What was really interesting
is that He finally said,
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you know what? There
is a secret to recovery.
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I thought wow, a
secret to recovery.
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There is a secret to falling
in love with God, there is
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a secret to witnessing and
I thought I wonder what it is?
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He said, it is the Holy
Spirit. I thought oh, shut up.
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Really! So the Holy
Spirit? He said, you know what?
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And Jesus laughed, He said
you know what, I'm going to
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send the Holy Spirit and
don't do nothing until you get
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this, don't do anything.
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Ellen White, I love
her, she's a prophet.
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She said, in her writings,
every single day ask for the
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baptism of the Holy Spirit
to fill you up so that you have
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the wisdom and the know-how
to walk through this stuff.
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But I didn't even do that
for 10 or 15 years in recovery.
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So what I did is chase
my tail into repentance.
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I thought Okay, I'm working
on it, I'm still working on this
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and I'm working on this
again, I'd like to work on this.
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I'm like getting
tired of working on this and
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I went in circles for ever.
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God said, let Me fill you
up. Let Me Fill You up with
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the Holy Spirit, let Me
ask you every single day.
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I want you to die to
self, and Paul said that.
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Die to yourself daily, get
filled up the Holy Spirit and
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you will be
empowered to do this.
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I thought, no way. And the only
reason I looked at that, people
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know that I got diagnosed
with hepatitis A B & C.
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I'm a drug addict was homeless
for 10 years and the doctors
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said that I was going to die,
and I'm thinking, how good is
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that? Most people would
say that's not good, right?
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I'm thinking I wanted to
get out of here since I was
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a little girl, I am done.
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I don't even like it
here, even the best church has
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issues, I don't mean to
offend anybody, but even
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the best of us have issues.
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So if I get a free ticket
out to I'm okay with that.
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Then everybody starts
praying for me, and it is really
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hard for them to say
excuse me, when they say can
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I pray for you, can I
put my hand on your liver?
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I'm thinking no, I'm okay.
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But you can't tell them
that because it would be weird.
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So they would pray for me
and pretty soon I feel well.
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Oh man, this is not
fair, this is totally not fair.
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God I was okay with all this.
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So I go back in, I go back
into the Doctor and say Doctor,
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I think I'm healed, he says
you know what Cheri you don't
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get healed from this.
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I remember just saying
to him, I know that but
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God doesn't know that
and so you need to retest me.
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It took me forever to
convince him to retest me.
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He finally does, right?
I'm totally clean, all my blood
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work is clean and he
says that it is odd for him.
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Don't write down I'm
healed, I told him write it down
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because people are
going to want to see that.
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Well maybe it's hiding in
your liver and just not on
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there and you're not
having a reactive test anymore.
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But I am thinking okay I
am healed and I start actually
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looking at when people prayed
they said the gifts of the
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Holy Spirit are to be able
to pray for somebody and to do
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healing stuff and I started
looking at the Holy Spirit.
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I started looking what
is the gifts of the Spirit,
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and what does God
actually provide for us?
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There is something with
the baptism of the Holy Spirit,
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or the gift of the Holy Spirit
that God gives us, there is
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that sense of I truly do
give everything over to God.
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I give everything over to
God, the Bible becomes more real
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and my recovery
becomes more real.
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I want to say I started
doing some incredible things
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I think, I started looking
at through God, through the
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Holy Spirit, what
are the finer things
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You want me to work on?
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You dealt with health
issues, You dealt with heroin,
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You dealt with manipulation,
some of it with exaggeration.
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You know how He works on
me, I think I'm sanguine and
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besides just having my addiction
that is just the problem
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we have. Anyhow so He
works on that kind of stuff.
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But one day He says, not
only do I want to work on that
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stuff, but I want you to
start looking at who you are
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as a wife, and a mother
and a Christian woman, right?
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So I'm thinking God I
don't have any problems in that
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area, I'm thinking my problem
is I'm a recovering drug addict.
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One day I come home I
want to get a new computer.
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I want to get a laptop
and it is for our ministry.
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I said to Brad, I'd
like to get a laptop.
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He says, you know we
can't afford it. I said what?
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He says, we can't afford
it. When Brad became a Christian
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just a few years ago, we've
been married almost 19 years
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and he's only been a
Christian for a few years.
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I gave him, you can make
all the decisions of the House.
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When we disagree on
something I will listen to you.
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That is fine if he agrees
with me, but when he doesn't
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it is just not fine.
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I thinking this
laptop is for business,
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what are you talking about?
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He's like Hon, we can't
afford it. I'm like oh stop.
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He says we can't afford
it. You said it was my decision
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at the last part.
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I'm thinking, yeah, okay
I said it. Then I came back
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the next day, he gets home
from work and I look great.
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Oh baby, I had my best outfit
on, I looked cute, I had his
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favorite meal done, and I had
been homeless for 10 years and
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a heroin addict, he was a
Boy Scout until he was 18.
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By the end of the
night I had that computer.
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So I'm like yeah so I go
out and buy the computer.
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I get the computer and
get it home and take it to my
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office and put it on
the desk and I open it.
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It's amazing, amazing
and I put my hands on it.
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God says go ahead, enjoy
it. Oh man, that is totally
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not fair because he said yes.
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The Holy Spirit said
after you manipulated him.
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Oh he said yes, he could
have said no and if he would
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have said no, I
wouldn't have done it.
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God said no enjoy it! And
He would not let up on me.
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It's as if did something wrong.
I'm like God, that's so not fair
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I'm trying to figure out
how can I get God to shut up
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about this, right? So
what I do is I turn up some
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worship music, poof
full blast so I can hear the
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Holy Spirit. Na-na-na-na,
praising the Lord, I'm singing.
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I've got all kinds of
stuff distracting me and God is
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still trying to
speak to me on this issue.
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I'm thinking I've just
got to not pay attention.
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Every single time I got near
this computer I felt guilty.
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One day I'm walking down
the hallway and my daughter,
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who is 14 years old at
the time, walks in and she's
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in an out of the bathroom, she's
getting ready for something.
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She doesn't go anywhere
without letting me know because
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we live in the country and
I have to drive her, you know?
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So I said Jackie were you
going, she said, no where.
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Then what are you
getting all dressed up for?
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Well daddy's coming home
and I want tickets to this
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concert, and I'm like oh no.
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The Holy Spirit showed
me in a flash that I just
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generationally taught
this child how to use men.
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I thought forgive
me, please forgive me.
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What I want to brag on God,
not only because of who He is,
00:13:18.67\00:13:22.14
and how He uses us, how
much He loves us, but the fact
00:13:22.17\00:13:25.60
that He walks us
through all those things.
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Even the find stuff, after
we've done major stuff with
00:13:27.86\00:13:31.27
figuring out who we are in
our addictions, in our obvious
00:13:31.31\00:13:34.44
stuff, He says you know
what? I want to actually turn
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you into an incredible
woman of God that can stand in
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your family, love your
husband, love your children,
00:13:41.16\00:13:44.12
love the people around
you, were even your friends are
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going to be blessed by who
you are because you are done
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with this junk. I'm thinking,
God You are so amazing.
00:13:50.49\00:13:53.17
We are going to come back
and I'm going to introduce
00:13:53.20\00:13:56.17
you to Freddie and Cliff
Harris and you are going to be
00:13:56.21\00:13:59.15
so blessed, so blessed.
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But again this whole
show is just bragging on God,
00:14:00.75\00:14:03.58
so stay with us.
00:14:03.61\00:14:04.79
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Welcome back, this is my
favorite part of the show.
00:14:51.24\00:14:53.48
We are going to talk to
some of the guests in the café.
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They are going to tell
us a little bit about what
00:14:55.77\00:14:57.75
they are doing and who they are.
00:14:57.79\00:14:59.32
But Cliff and Freddie you've
been on the show before and
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we were wowed Cliff by your
testimony and so many people
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were blessed, but I want
you to say a little bit about
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your testimony again
for people who haven't seen
00:15:09.31\00:15:11.46
that show and then tell
us what you are doing now.
00:15:11.50\00:15:13.59
Well I just had 20 years of
drug abuse, $200 a day habit
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on heroin, cocaine, been
in Colorado State penitentiary
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twice, in and out of jails
all my life. - even as a kid?
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Yeah, no I didn't go to jail
until I was around about 18.
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Or 19, I went to jail.
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And Freddie you've married him,
you know it is amazing to me
00:15:38.02\00:15:45.57
like one day into his
recovery. - yeah I met him after
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he came clean and sober.
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We were at church one Sabbath
and he met me, and on Sunday
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he proposed to me and I
said, yes the very next day.
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Can you tell me how that
happens? Because even when
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you said it the
first time, I was thinking
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how does that happen?
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Well you know I have
spent a year with the Lord and
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decided I wasn't going to
date and look for a husband.
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In that one whole year I spent
just getting to know Jesus.
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I was so close to Him that I
really was satisfied with our
00:16:13.75\00:16:16.69
relationship and I said, well
if the Lord wants me to have
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a husband fine, if
not I'm totally satisfied.
00:16:19.66\00:16:22.53
Then He sends
somebody one day into recovery.
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That just cracks
me up, I love God.
00:16:25.43\00:16:27.38
I married a Boy Scout, never
had done anything wrong and his
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father and mother are
normal and I was homeless.
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I just think how funny is that?
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The irony is that Cliff's
son and I were best friends.
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I was like his
second mom for two years.
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- before you guys
met? - before we met.
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I knew his
parents were divorced,
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but he never talked about them.
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So I walked in church one
day and Cliff was standing
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there with Jeffrey
and I hugged him and said,
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Hey Jeff, How are you doing?
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Then I saw Cliff
and the rest is history.
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Wait a minute, let me
make it a little bit better.
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My son and I, we were standing
in the lobby of the Church
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and we were just talking.
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She zips in and
kisses Jeffrey on the cheek,
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and all I saw was
her face, just her face.
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In this face I saw all
this joy, saw all this peace and
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something within me
said, she is the one.
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Because you see females,
no I wanted to stay away from
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females. - because you
are recovery. - yes and in
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recovery you don't need to
get involved with a female.
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That can take you off track.
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Not knowing that the Holy
Spirit impressed him, she is
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the one, when I met him that
Saturday night and he came to
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my house and
brought me one red rose.
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When he handed me that
one red rose the Holy Spirit
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impressed me, he's the
one. - oh man, I love that.
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I have been a Christian
all my life, I never drank,
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smoked, and this guy I would
have probably thrown out the
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front door, - without
hearing his testimony?
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But I was totally satisfied.
And I knew - no! She didn't
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hear my testimony - but I
mean if she had she would have
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run. - right, right.
But I just knew this was the
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person that God
had chosen for me.
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But you see I knew I had to,
you know I'm coming to church
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every time those
church doors are opened.
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I'm sitting on the
pew, just go sit down.
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If you go it was like you
were meeting new people, you are
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getting into different
lifestyle, you're getting back
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to your old roots because
you know you are going this way.
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- you're not trying
to steal your wallet.
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Yes Cheri. - by
this time I had...
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After I moved
out from my sisters,
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I had me a four bedroom
house and nobody living in
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it but me, but the
Lord is blessing me.
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Because I am being faithful,
I'm going this way, I'm going
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this way so we made a date
to see each other the next day.
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And she drove up at 12 o'clock,
and I said, oh yeah, I have
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got her now, she pulled up
and she came inside and she set
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one end of the couch and I
sat on the other end of the
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couch and commenced to tell
her, I want to tell her about
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my life because I didn't
want to leave this to everybody
00:19:15.00\00:19:18.79
else because I knew she
would hear it from the members.
00:19:18.82\00:19:22.57
- because she
grew up in that church.
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No I told her that I lied,
I stole and I was drug addict,
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and just got out
of the penitentiary,
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- Will you marry me? -
Did you say that right after
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you said all of that? -
No! I looked at her and she
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look at me and
she said, is that all?
00:19:43.23\00:19:46.25
I said this girl
has got to be crazy.
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I said, is that all
because the Holy Spirit had
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impressed me the night
before that he was the one.
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So I was totally content.
- when she said that I looked
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at her and said, Will
you marry me? - I said yes.
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When she said yes I
kissed her and we've been
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kissing ever since.
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And on May 10 we will
have been married for 22 years.
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Whoa! Yes Sir. - that is
so incredible. - yes, yes.
00:20:08.10\00:20:11.65
You know what amazes me
about your story because I know
00:20:11.68\00:20:14.84
that God pulled you into
recovery, got you back in the
00:20:14.88\00:20:19.04
church, and you were out
there and you got together
00:20:19.07\00:20:22.71
and he still had to do
some recovery time at the first
00:20:22.75\00:20:26.35
part of your
relationship, right? - yes, yes.
00:20:26.39\00:20:28.11
In fact his eyes were so glassy,
I said honey you got to look
00:20:28.14\00:20:30.83
better because
he was getting ready
00:20:30.87\00:20:31.84
to meet my family you know,
- you got to get some things
00:20:31.85\00:20:34.96
right. - he kept going
to church kept doing what
00:20:36.53\00:20:39.38
he was suppose to do.
00:20:39.42\00:20:40.46
After we got married the Lord
not only brought us together
00:20:40.49\00:20:43.76
for marriage, but he brought
us together for our ministry.
00:20:43.80\00:20:46.85
And we had no idea that the
Lord was going to call us into
00:20:46.88\00:20:49.90
this ministry because
when Cliff went back to church
00:20:49.93\00:20:53.22
he started going to Sabbath
school with the little kids
00:20:53.25\00:20:56.50
because he had been out
of church for 20 years so
00:20:56.54\00:20:58.85
he wanted to learn all
the stories, and at that time
00:20:58.89\00:21:01.49
the Lord was training
him for this ministry for the
00:21:01.52\00:21:04.09
Drug Alternative Program.
00:21:04.12\00:21:05.80
Talk about the Drug Alternative
Program, because that
00:21:05.84\00:21:08.16
is what God has blessed
you and led you into ministry.
00:21:08.19\00:21:10.41
I know you have blessed tons
of folks looking for recovery.
00:21:10.45\00:21:14.17
Yes in fact we had a
program here on 3ABN for about
00:21:14.20\00:21:17.13
eight years called Drugs
Close to Home and it was a
00:21:17.16\00:21:20.50
real blessing, - wait,
wait, wait because I'm an addict
00:21:20.53\00:21:24.05
in recovery and I saw your
program and I'm like oh Amen.
00:21:24.08\00:21:27.21
You got some healing from
it and so I want you to know
00:21:27.24\00:21:30.34
that I love you guys.
00:21:30.37\00:21:32.88
Before I even met you, because
I saw what you were doing
00:21:32.92\00:21:36.09
on the media and I never
dreamed that I would be sitting
00:21:36.13\00:21:39.27
here and have an opportunity
not only to hear your
00:21:39.30\00:21:42.19
personal testimony, but how God
blessed you with other people.
00:21:42.22\00:21:45.80
You know how the Lord has
blessed you, you know why?
00:21:45.83\00:21:48.35
Because look at you, He
has fixed you up and you got
00:21:48.39\00:21:50.87
your own show now.
- that's right Amen.
00:21:50.90\00:21:53.62
Isn't that amazing? So when
we talk about bragging on God
00:21:59.49\00:22:02.54
I want to say even as you
get into talking about your,
00:22:02.57\00:22:05.57
ministry, is that Brad
and I, He takes all that junk
00:22:05.61\00:22:08.57
all the stuff
we hid for so long,
00:22:08.60\00:22:10.46
not only do I want to
bring it out to the table
00:22:10.50\00:22:12.77
but I want you to use it to
bless someone else and comfort
00:22:12.81\00:22:15.80
them with what I
comfort you from.
00:22:15.83\00:22:17.63
You know we always stop
and think about how we use God,
00:22:17.66\00:22:24.39
or how God can use us
in a way for His benefit
00:22:24.42\00:22:28.87
and not our own. The
Lord has blessed me in a way
00:22:28.90\00:22:33.08
that I used to say to
myself, Lord why are You so
00:22:33.11\00:22:37.62
good to me? I'm not even
worthy for You to bless me.
00:22:37.65\00:22:41.75
Not even worthy, I'm not
even supposed to be here.
00:22:41.79\00:22:45.86
But He says, you
know what Clifford?
00:22:45.89\00:22:48.88
I said to myself
what can I do for you?
00:22:48.91\00:22:51.87
He says, Clifford, just love Me.
00:22:51.90\00:22:55.87
That is all that He
wants from all of us is to just
00:22:55.90\00:22:59.28
love Him, that
is it, bottom line.
00:22:59.31\00:23:02.57
He certainly delights in
us, and I looked up the original
00:23:02.61\00:23:05.13
word for delight in like
the Greek, or the original
00:23:05.16\00:23:08.38
language and it says to run
into a room and do somersaults
00:23:08.42\00:23:11.55
all over the
place. - oh, I like that.
00:23:11.59\00:23:13.41
I thought delight
would just be a nice smile,
00:23:13.45\00:23:16.25
or pleasant welcome,
my He says no, no, no.
00:23:16.28\00:23:19.02
I delight in you and I
love you so much. - Amen.
00:23:19.05\00:23:22.52
You know one thing we all
need to stop and think about,
00:23:22.55\00:23:26.14
because I used
to think about it.
00:23:26.18\00:23:27.88
I was so tired out there in
the streets, and you know one
00:23:27.92\00:23:31.47
thing I always wanted, I
was tired of the courts, I was
00:23:31.51\00:23:35.25
tired of the dealers, I was
tired of police, everything.
00:23:35.28\00:23:40.40
I remember God would say,
"come unto Me and I will give
00:23:40.43\00:23:45.51
you peace" and I wanted
peace, just peace of mind.
00:23:45.55\00:23:49.94
- exactly, a brain cell
or two. - because you are out
00:23:49.98\00:23:54.34
there in that
world, there is no peace.
00:23:54.37\00:23:56.31
I don't care what you
say, you think you have some.
00:23:56.34\00:24:00.17
But Jesus says come unto
me and I just lay all your
00:24:00.21\00:24:04.01
burdens and
everything on My shoulder.
00:24:04.04\00:24:06.76
I'll take care of
it. And I wanted peace.
00:24:06.79\00:24:09.44
Okay, I'm going to try
this. - I'm going to trust Him.
00:24:09.47\00:24:13.50
- yeah, I want some peace.
00:24:13.54\00:24:15.63
So how did God turn all
that around, you guys got
00:24:15.66\00:24:18.22
together, how did
you get into ministry?
00:24:18.26\00:24:20.51
How did you
start a rehab center?
00:24:20.55\00:24:22.33
Well we first started our
own business, Harris Masonry.
00:24:22.36\00:24:25.59
We were making big
bucks, but you know we came to
00:24:25.63\00:24:28.63
California on a vacation,
and while we were there one of
00:24:28.67\00:24:32.46
the ministers asked Clifford
if he would speak at a camp
00:24:32.49\00:24:36.30
meeting and he spoke and
there were so many Adventists,
00:24:36.33\00:24:40.10
so many Christians coming up.
00:24:40.13\00:24:41.45
My son is on drugs, my
husband was on drugs and so
00:24:41.48\00:24:44.11
Clifford looked at me
and said honey do you think
00:24:44.14\00:24:46.13
we could move to
California and start a program?
00:24:46.17\00:24:48.90
I said no, because I
had just left California and
00:24:48.94\00:24:51.64
we had just
refurbished a whole house,
00:24:51.68\00:24:53.32
bricked it, built a room.
00:24:53.35\00:24:54.84
I said no I don't want
to go back to California.
00:24:54.87\00:24:57.68
He said, you know I
have a burden for souls,
00:24:57.71\00:25:00.05
let's just pray about
it and see if this is what
00:25:00.09\00:25:02.39
the Lord wants us to do.
00:25:02.43\00:25:03.62
To make a long story short,
his ex-boss was in California
00:25:03.66\00:25:06.76
30 minutes from where we
were vacationing with my mom.
00:25:06.80\00:25:09.89
Had called back to
Denver and said Cliff the block
00:25:09.93\00:25:12.97
business is going good
here, I want you to come and be
00:25:13.00\00:25:16.30
my partner, Freddie I
want you as a secretary I need
00:25:16.33\00:25:19.22
you yesterday and I will
pay for all of your moving.
00:25:19.25\00:25:21.82
So we looked at each other
and said honey what do we do?
00:25:21.85\00:25:24.39
We got ready, and here we are.
00:25:24.42\00:25:26.89
- that's right we
moved to California.
00:25:26.93\00:25:29.14
But you know
what I think? - what?
00:25:29.17\00:25:31.31
I said to myself I think
God tricked me into moving to
00:25:31.35\00:25:36.58
California, because I had
my own home. We had bought it.
00:25:36.62\00:25:41.82
And You're going to
take me into California, and
00:25:41.85\00:25:47.47
I'm going to leave this and
move in with my mother-in-law?
00:25:47.50\00:25:50.77
Did you hear me? - yeah
I heard you, like oh man.
00:25:50.81\00:25:55.14
I got my father with me,
and Freddie, we had Lyndon and
00:25:55.18\00:25:58.90
he was like twelve or six or
seven or something like that.
00:25:58.93\00:26:03.37
With all this responsibility
on me, and moving in with
00:26:03.40\00:26:07.33
her, into her home and all
of her brothers and sisters
00:26:07.36\00:26:11.15
coming over and eating up
all the food and all of this
00:26:11.19\00:26:14.95
kind of stuff, I
have to deal with.
00:26:14.98\00:26:16.84
Then I was working with
Gage and we weren't making any
00:26:16.88\00:26:21.74
money. - so Gage went
back to Denver. - oh no.
00:26:21.78\00:26:23.92
Now you're in
California. - right.
00:26:23.96\00:26:27.54
Here I am in California,
and the car we had the
00:26:27.58\00:26:31.78
transmission went out
and we didn't have no money.
00:26:31.81\00:26:35.98
So Cliff wanted to
go right to Denver.
00:26:36.01\00:26:37.44
I wanted to go back to Denver.
00:26:37.48\00:26:39.22
But I told him, the
Lord brought us here and this
00:26:39.26\00:26:43.93
is where He wants us.
00:26:43.97\00:26:45.24
So then Cliff got a
job working by the hour
00:26:45.28\00:26:47.01
as a brick mason.
00:26:47.04\00:26:48.48
There is scripture and I
love, Jeremiah 29:11 where it
00:26:48.52\00:26:52.17
says, I have plans for
your life, future and a hope.
00:26:52.21\00:26:56.62
I used to think that
just meant my salvation and
00:26:56.65\00:27:00.52
coming in and sitting
down in a church and having
00:27:00.56\00:27:04.40
that peace of mind.
00:27:04.43\00:27:05.55
God says no, no, no I have
actually plans for your life.
00:27:05.58\00:27:08.98
He had incredible
plans for you guys life.
00:27:09.02\00:27:11.09
right, but it sounds like
right then quite like it because
00:27:11.13\00:27:13.84
the transmissions
out and all that stuff,
00:27:13.88\00:27:16.06
but what happened?
00:27:16.09\00:27:17.29
We started out a support
group, we had a support group in
00:27:17.33\00:27:19.38
our home and there was like 30
or 40 people came to our house.
00:27:19.42\00:27:22.51
But we say we need something
more because it was more like
00:27:22.55\00:27:25.61
a social club and we
weren't really helping them.
00:27:25.64\00:27:28.16
So we decided we wanted
to have a recovery home.
00:27:28.20\00:27:30.64
What happened, one of the
board members left one day and
00:27:30.68\00:27:33.94
she said there is a nice
home up the street, why don't
00:27:33.97\00:27:37.14
you get that home? We are
in Grand Terrace, California,
00:27:37.17\00:27:40.31
middle-class
neighborhood - expensive.
00:27:40.34\00:27:42.61
- yeah they're not going
to let us have this house.
00:27:42.64\00:27:44.30
But we got that house, we rented
it for like 4 and 1/2 years.
00:27:44.34\00:27:49.69
We had six clients there,
and we didn't know how to set
00:27:49.73\00:27:55.05
up a program. - and the
clients just came because
00:27:55.08\00:27:57.69
of the support
group? - right, right.
00:27:57.73\00:27:59.51
So Lord how-to we set up
the program? So one day we said,
00:27:59.55\00:28:03.87
the Lord impressed, set
it up like everyday living.
00:28:03.90\00:28:07.04
That is what we did. The
guys get up at 5:30 in the
00:28:07.07\00:28:10.18
morning, they have
breakfast at six o'clock.
00:28:10.21\00:28:12.42
- 5:30 in the morning I'm like,
whose house did you live in?
00:28:12.46\00:28:15.64
We have worship every
morning, the Sabbath school
00:28:15.68\00:28:19.23
lesson, Morning Watch, and
then we have a work program.
00:28:19.27\00:28:23.10
At first we started letting
the guys work outside the
00:28:23.14\00:28:26.22
program, they were
going out and getting high and
00:28:26.25\00:28:29.09
we had no control, and
Cliff you woke up one morning
00:28:29.12\00:28:31.93
and what did you say?
00:28:31.96\00:28:32.93
I said Freddie let's start
a lawn business and we didn't
00:28:32.97\00:28:36.98
have no money, didn't
know where the money was coming
00:28:37.02\00:28:41.47
from, nothing so what I
did was I would tell the people
00:28:41.51\00:28:46.52
if you let me do your lawn,
if you give me your lawn mower
00:28:46.55\00:28:51.53
I will do your lawn.
00:28:51.56\00:28:53.07
So they would give me the
lawn mower and I would do their
00:28:53.10\00:28:57.24
yard and then I get another
one, lawn mowers breaking down
00:28:57.28\00:29:01.11
and I was changing wheels off
of one lawn mower, lawn mower
00:29:01.15\00:29:04.95
sitting like this
and cutting grass.
00:29:04.99\00:29:07.84
We got a truck donated and
we started a lawn business.
00:29:07.88\00:29:11.31
So the lawn business is for
the clients that come through
00:29:11.35\00:29:14.74
your program? - right. -
a lot of people don't know
00:29:14.78\00:29:17.37
as far as addicts, we
need to actually start doing
00:29:17.41\00:29:19.93
something that is consistent,
we can build our self worth
00:29:19.97\00:29:23.24
with, and all that
stuff and so the business.
00:29:23.28\00:29:25.84
- yeah they work every day
from eight to four o'clock.
00:29:25.88\00:29:27.89
That pays for
half of their recovery.
00:29:27.93\00:29:30.48
They come home and eat dinner
at 5:30, and in the evening
00:29:30.52\00:29:33.93
they had their therapy sessions.
00:29:33.97\00:29:35.33
Monday night they have
therapy, one on one therapy.
00:29:35.36\00:29:37.82
They go to prayer
meeting on Wednesday night.
00:29:37.86\00:29:39.56
Church on Sabbath, these
are all mandatory meetings.
00:29:39.60\00:29:42.18
So the program is set up
just like everyday living,
00:29:42.22\00:29:44.73
so when they leave the program,
they have a set pattern.
00:29:44.77\00:29:47.09
- All those skills.
Yeah, all those skills!
00:29:47.12\00:29:48.68
So now a lawn business now
pays for half of our expenses.
00:29:48.72\00:29:55.08
We have commercial lawns
now, Loma Linda University,
00:29:55.12\00:29:58.46
have Campus Hill Church, South
Union California Conference
00:29:58.50\00:30:01.86
City of Grand Terrace
plus we have residential too.
00:30:01.90\00:30:05.37
So it has been a real blessing
and we have six new trucks.
00:30:05.40\00:30:09.87
The whole time, and this
is why love to brag on God,
00:30:09.90\00:30:12.67
the whole time God is
saying, I have a plan but the
00:30:12.71\00:30:15.38
transition is not easy
and you have to trust Me.
00:30:15.41\00:30:18.01
You have trust me, I will use
everything you came from, like
00:30:18.05\00:30:21.14
Cliff you were saying,
in and out of prison, your
00:30:21.17\00:30:23.37
addiction, watching your
kids watching you get high and
00:30:23.41\00:30:26.57
all that stuff, God says,
you will use every single story.
00:30:26.61\00:30:29.33
Tell me about something of
someone that went through your
00:30:29.36\00:30:32.04
program? - okay I can
tell you about Anthony.
00:30:32.08\00:30:33.95
Anthony is from Nashville,
Tennessee, his father was
00:30:33.99\00:30:39.37
a Doctor and he
had a great childhood.
00:30:39.41\00:30:42.23
Then he got on
cocaine and lost everything.
00:30:42.26\00:30:46.61
In fact his parents
were rich and when they died
00:30:46.64\00:30:50.23
he just knew he was
going to be set free.
00:30:50.26\00:30:52.24
Guess what they
gave him when they died?
00:30:52.28\00:30:54.23
$10,000- that's it? - that's it.
00:30:54.26\00:30:56.81
And everything else
was willed to this uncle.
00:30:56.84\00:30:58.98
So he said, you know
what? I'm going to go to DAP.
00:30:59.01\00:31:03.09
He called you one night and what
happened when he called you?
00:31:03.13\00:31:05.56
He called me and told me
that he was going to go to
00:31:05.59\00:31:10.40
Oakwood College,
and I laughed at him.
00:31:10.44\00:31:14.14
I said Anthony they will eat you
alive, I said you have got to
00:31:14.17\00:31:18.72
get yourself together
first before you go down there.
00:31:18.75\00:31:21.47
- wow, good for you. - he
made a decision to come to
00:31:21.50\00:31:25.44
the program. - but I'm
going to tell you, we have two
00:31:25.47\00:31:29.37
recovery homes and
one transition home.
00:31:29.40\00:31:31.47
We just open the
transition home in 2000.
00:31:31.51\00:31:33.51
So after the guys go
through our program, the program
00:31:33.54\00:31:36.43
is 12 to 18 months,
then they can go into
00:31:36.47\00:31:38.40
the transition home
and go to school or work so
00:31:38.44\00:31:41.35
they can get back into society.
00:31:41.38\00:31:43.36
Anthony came and he graduated,
went into the transition house
00:31:43.39\00:31:47.68
and while he was doing
lawns every day, he went to
00:31:47.71\00:31:51.33
Loma Linda University
and he wanted to be a Doctor.
00:31:51.37\00:31:55.12
But he saw all these, you
know doctors and nurses and
00:31:55.16\00:31:58.84
everything, he's picking up
dog poop and pulling weeds and
00:31:58.87\00:32:02.32
everything and he
said you know what?
00:32:02.36\00:32:04.23
I'm going to come to
Loma Linda University.
00:32:04.26\00:32:07.78
Now he worked the whole
18 months, he was working the
00:32:07.81\00:32:10.37
yards and sweating and
everything and when he graduated
00:32:10.40\00:32:13.85
from the program, he graduated
from the program, he said,
00:32:13.88\00:32:17.15
I'm going to apply myself
to go to Loma Linda University.
00:32:17.18\00:32:20.54
He put in an application
for Loma Linda University and
00:32:20.57\00:32:23.25
told them that he was a
drug addict and everything.
00:32:23.28\00:32:25.89
They accepted him, he went
to Loma Linda for four years.
00:32:25.92\00:32:29.79
- that is so God. - 4
years, he was top of his class.
00:32:29.82\00:32:34.19
President of his class, he
graduated last year as an R.N.
00:32:34.23\00:32:39.29
and passed the State Boards
and December 8 he got married.
00:32:39.33\00:32:44.02
So he went from zero to
nothing. He went on a speaking
00:32:44.05\00:32:47.54
engagement to Louisville,
Kentucky and he met this young
00:32:47.57\00:32:51.02
lady and they
married on December 8.
00:32:51.06\00:32:53.39
That is amazing when you
look at all that kind of stuff,
00:32:53.42\00:32:58.06
and you think God is not
only, I want to walk you through
00:32:58.10\00:33:01.68
recovery, I want to give
you something, I want to bless
00:33:01.72\00:33:04.77
you, I want to pour into
your life and all those things.
00:33:04.81\00:33:07.90
I really think God is so
amazing because He said that
00:33:07.94\00:33:10.61
I want you to help other
people and you will be blessed
00:33:10.65\00:33:13.22
even by that, even that
will keep you in your recovery.
00:33:13.26\00:33:15.85
All our employees are graduates
of the program. - Amen.
00:33:15.89\00:33:18.41
A lawn supervisor, Teresa is
a supervisor and she was married
00:33:18.45\00:33:21.70
in 2000. Craig is a lawn super-
visor and he just got married
00:33:21.74\00:33:24.96
in June. And we have Wayne,
who is not only a remodeling
00:33:25.00\00:33:29.24
contractor, but he is a
counselor for the program.
00:33:29.27\00:33:31.74
We have two guys who are
counseling the guys and his
00:33:31.77\00:33:34.20
wife is what we
call a family liaison.
00:33:34.23\00:33:36.41
Because when the clients
come in, the mothers have
00:33:36.45\00:33:40.68
problems, or other wives
have problems and she has gone
00:33:40.71\00:33:43.03
through all that, so
she's able to help them.
00:33:43.07\00:33:45.92
We had this guy Steve,
Steve when he came into
00:33:45.96\00:33:48.54
the program I said,
this guy can hardly write.
00:33:48.58\00:33:51.42
Steve went and got his
AA degree, his counseling
00:33:51.46\00:33:54.62
certificate, his BS
degree, and in June he got
00:33:54.65\00:33:57.78
his M.A. degree as
a social worker now.
00:33:57.81\00:34:00.45
Wow, and what I have to
say to encourage anybody
00:34:00.49\00:34:04.82
watching us that has addictions,
that has anything that is
00:34:04.86\00:34:08.31
keeping them from fulfilling
what they think God wants
00:34:08.34\00:34:11.46
them to do in their life,
is that you have got to trust
00:34:11.50\00:34:14.58
God and turn it
over. - that's right.
00:34:14.62\00:34:16.19
It's not even turn it
over, like when I came off the
00:34:16.22\00:34:18.45
street I was illiterate,
so not only turn it over in
00:34:18.49\00:34:21.20
a sense that I don't
even know the next step but
00:34:21.23\00:34:23.90
I know You have
a plan for my life.
00:34:23.94\00:34:25.31
That you actually want
to wow me. And God does.
00:34:25.34\00:34:29.38
He wows us. - right, right.
00:34:29.41\00:34:31.02
Anything else before we
opened it up for questions?
00:34:31.06\00:34:33.42
Anything else you want us
to know about the program and
00:34:33.46\00:34:36.33
I know that if somebody
needs the program it's called
00:34:36.36\00:34:39.02
Drug Alternative Program,
they can get in touch with
00:34:39.06\00:34:41.68
us and we will get
them in touch with you.
00:34:41.72\00:34:43.12
It is amazing what you
guys do for the men that come.
00:34:43.15\00:34:47.07
I want to tell you we
have four houses. - wow.
00:34:47.10\00:34:50.53
The Lord literally
gave us those houses.
00:34:50.57\00:34:53.04
The first two houses are
totally paid for, and the third
00:34:53.07\00:34:57.02
house we got it and 97, and
we paid for it in 18 months.
00:34:57.05\00:35:00.97
But let me tell you what
happened. - can I ask you
00:35:01.00\00:35:03.20
Freddie, I'm sorry to interrupt,
why did God do that for
00:35:03.24\00:35:05.79
you? - because we
are helping other people.
00:35:05.82\00:35:07.85
Well I wanted you to say
that because people are watching
00:35:07.88\00:35:11.41
us and saying why
did God do that for them?
00:35:11.45\00:35:13.29
He wants to do that for all
of us, and He will make things
00:35:13.33\00:35:15.85
happen like giving you
houses and doing all that stuff.
00:35:15.88\00:35:18.10
Here you walked away from your
job and end up with nothing,
00:35:18.14\00:35:20.32
and He said let me pour
all back into your life.
00:35:20.36\00:35:22.64
And I just want to say
out loud, God wants to do that
00:35:22.68\00:35:25.01
for each of us. - that's
right. - and all we have to
00:35:25.05\00:35:27.71
say, all right, I'm
done. I'm done with my stuff.
00:35:27.75\00:35:31.65
I think the main thing
we need to do is like Moses.
00:35:31.68\00:35:36.30
He had to put his foot in
that water to make it move.
00:35:36.34\00:35:40.48
He had to have faith, and
everything that we have done,
00:35:40.52\00:35:45.28
I have done in faith.
Don't have no money, didn't have
00:35:45.32\00:35:50.05
no money to get no
house, - God has a plan.
00:35:50.09\00:35:52.37
I always ask the Lord,
Lord You do this in a way that
00:35:52.40\00:35:56.68
I know it's from You.
00:35:56.72\00:35:58.76
We just stepped out
there not having any money.
00:35:58.80\00:36:03.34
A lot of people who you
know bought this truck, paid for
00:36:03.37\00:36:06.07
the truck, the next
thing you know you buy a house.
00:36:06.11\00:36:09.60
You cannot buy a house
in Loma Linda or in Southern
00:36:09.63\00:36:13.09
California under
$400,000, there is no way.
00:36:13.13\00:36:16.62
And all of them are paid
for. - except transition house,
00:36:16.65\00:36:20.50
the board said we need to
rent this house for four years
00:36:20.53\00:36:24.34
and he said we
need to buy a house.
00:36:24.37\00:36:26.15
You have got to tell
them shortly how we got the
00:36:26.18\00:36:28.69
transition house,
we just bought it.
00:36:28.73\00:36:30.82
I think in the beginning, we
did this, it's in a cul-de-sac
00:36:30.86\00:36:37.92
and house two is
in that cul-de-sac.
00:36:37.95\00:36:41.58
Well the house across the
street, we did their yards for
00:36:41.62\00:36:46.47
Michael and Judy,
we did their yard.
00:36:46.50\00:36:49.27
- from a lawn service. -
about eight or nine years.
00:36:49.31\00:36:54.24
I just got along, they
knew about us, no problems.
00:36:54.27\00:36:59.14
In fact her sister lived
next door across the street from
00:36:59.17\00:37:03.87
us and I've got to tell you
this, please, I've got to tell
00:37:03.91\00:37:08.58
you this. - all
right, I've got to hear it.
00:37:08.62\00:37:09.85
The man next door when I bought
that house, I went to tell
00:37:09.89\00:37:13.83
the neighbors we are moving
in here and we are going to
00:37:13.86\00:37:18.05
be your neighbors. The man
next door, he went off on me.
00:37:18.08\00:37:22.23
You see that sign out
there, beware of the dog,
00:37:22.27\00:37:26.78
you better beware of me.
00:37:26.82\00:37:28.35
I'm going to get a petition
and get you out of here,
00:37:28.38\00:37:30.93
I don't know why they
let you in here anyway.
00:37:30.97\00:37:34.43
Okay, okay. - because
of the guys you had? - yes.
00:37:34.47\00:37:37.90
Because of the
program, do you know what?
00:37:37.93\00:37:40.74
The man has come to church
with us, got up and spoke at
00:37:40.77\00:37:45.62
Church, Freddie has the
Bible, she's a prayer partner
00:37:45.65\00:37:50.43
with Freddie now, and always
tells us bring the guys over.
00:37:50.46\00:37:53.84
We want to have a
pool party for the fellas.
00:37:53.87\00:37:57.18
We do his lawn now - all
the guys? - yes all the guys
00:37:57.21\00:38:02.30
and Clifford, he asked me
one time, he said Clifford,
00:38:02.34\00:38:07.39
he came to me and
said I want to talk to you.
00:38:07.42\00:38:10.67
I said yes, I said
yes what can I do for you?
00:38:10.70\00:38:13.88
He said, how do you have
a relationship with Jesus?
00:38:13.91\00:38:18.55
He asked me that. - right.
00:38:18.59\00:38:21.22
So he has been to church
with us, but back to the story
00:38:21.25\00:38:23.83
about the house. - hold
on before you even go there.
00:38:23.87\00:38:26.03
Go back to the story when
you opened up the show and
00:38:26.06\00:38:28.56
we talked about that we are
a letter, as if Christ wrote
00:38:28.59\00:38:31.86
Himself on us to send us
out. That's what he saw in you.
00:38:31.89\00:38:36.36
Across the street, this
was not this past Christmas,
00:38:36.40\00:38:40.83
but the Christmas before.
00:38:40.86\00:38:42.24
Anthony came to me and
said Clifford, they all call me
00:38:42.28\00:38:46.82
Mr. Harris, he said Mr.
Harris lets have a breakfast on
00:38:46.85\00:38:51.36
Christmas morning
and a party for Jesus.
00:38:51.40\00:38:54.38
He said everybody gets
gifts but Jesus, and this is
00:38:54.42\00:38:59.63
supposed to be His
birthday. Okay, alright!
00:38:59.66\00:39:02.19
I'll fix a big breakfast,
Freddie said, maybe I'll invite
00:39:02.23\00:39:08.27
Judy and Michael. Wait a
minute, I knew they were selling
00:39:08.31\00:39:13.41
their house and the board
had already told me let's find
00:39:13.44\00:39:18.51
a house, - and we never
thought about their house.
00:39:18.55\00:39:20.79
They had me to come in,
she wanted me to do this to the
00:39:20.82\00:39:24.43
yard, and this in cleaning
it up because they're getting
00:39:24.46\00:39:28.04
ready to put the
whole house on the market.
00:39:28.07\00:39:29.89
I never thought to say
let me look at your house.
00:39:29.93\00:39:32.98
Because we are looking for
house, right across the street.
00:39:33.02\00:39:37.63
Okay, never asked them, so
they came, Freddie invited them
00:39:37.66\00:39:41.37
to the breakfast and we
set the table and they set the
00:39:41.40\00:39:45.03
table and we had a plate
for Jesus and nobody sat in the
00:39:45.06\00:39:48.65
seat, this was a
breakfast for Jesus.
00:39:48.69\00:39:51.78
So they came, we had
testimonies and all that.
00:39:51.82\00:39:56.54
So the next day we left on
our way to Alabama, got in the
00:39:56.57\00:40:02.01
truck and went to Alabama.
00:40:02.05\00:40:03.67
They were so impressed,
because they have decided they
00:40:03.70\00:40:06.56
were going to give 10 or
$15,000 towards the transition
00:40:06.59\00:40:09.53
house, but they were so
impressed they decided we want
00:40:09.56\00:40:12.46
you to have our house. - oh man!
00:40:12.50\00:40:14.38
They called us and said, we
want to sell you a house and
00:40:14.42\00:40:18.74
we'll sell it to you for
principle only, no interest.
00:40:18.77\00:40:23.06
- that is amazing. -
they will carry the note.
00:40:23.09\00:40:25.97
- they will carry the
note. - no way. And only God can
00:40:26.01\00:40:29.88
do that. - yes, and they
are young they're not 70-80
00:40:29.91\00:40:33.75
they're like in their 50s.
00:40:33.79\00:40:35.36
So Cliff asked why are you
doing this? He said you know
00:40:35.39\00:40:38.23
Cliff I am so impressed with
your Drug Alternative Program
00:40:38.26\00:40:41.09
we have been watching you
guys for all these years and see
00:40:41.13\00:40:43.92
how you help people,
government doesn't help you,
00:40:43.96\00:40:46.86
and we want to do more so
we want you to have our house.
00:40:46.89\00:40:49.76
So we moved in, in March.
00:40:49.79\00:40:52.47
We're going to open it up
for questions, but I just have
00:40:52.51\00:40:55.29
to say that one thing I
hope somebody hears during this
00:40:55.32\00:40:59.08
program, is the fact that
Jesus wants to get us out of
00:40:59.11\00:41:02.34
recovery, I mean into
recovery. He wants to heal us.
00:41:02.37\00:41:05.18
He wants to walk us into
an incredible life and give
00:41:05.22\00:41:07.99
you an incredible wife
that you don't deserve.
00:41:08.03\00:41:11.18
And all that stuff, then
say I have to move you from the
00:41:11.21\00:41:15.78
successful life into
dependence on Me, and then into
00:41:15.82\00:41:19.23
where I can bless you and
you can bless other people.
00:41:19.27\00:41:22.61
I always say somebody will say
Cheri, I don't even know what
00:41:22.65\00:41:25.86
my ministry is, surrender
to God and He will show you and
00:41:25.90\00:41:29.08
open every door,
and give you stuff.
00:41:29.11\00:41:31.95
He gave us a ranch, same
kind of thing, I'm just thinking
00:41:31.99\00:41:34.60
a ranch I don't even know
how to do horses and He gave us
00:41:34.64\00:41:37.56
nine horses, then taught
me and then we started working
00:41:37.59\00:41:40.24
with children that
their parents were in jail and
00:41:40.27\00:41:42.66
teaching them to ride and
I thought God you are good.
00:41:42.70\00:41:45.36
I just want to say, again
were going to open it up for
00:41:45.40\00:41:48.17
questions, but if you are
watching this show, I beg you
00:41:48.20\00:41:51.28
to trust God, I beg you
because He wants to bless you.
00:41:51.31\00:41:54.36
He wants to wow you
with His love for you.
00:41:54.39\00:41:57.75
I'm telling you,
you can't be out wowed.
00:41:57.79\00:42:01.08
God is just amazing. So
I'm going to open it up.
00:42:01.11\00:42:04.83
Does anybody have any questions,
anything they want to ask?
00:42:04.86\00:42:08.27
It's not so much a
question as a comment. You were
00:42:08.31\00:42:12.15
talking earlier about how
you said you asked God why
00:42:12.18\00:42:15.99
are you doing this for
me? I don't deserve it.
00:42:16.03\00:42:18.37
Me coming out of the drug
scene, I'm doing that now.
00:42:18.40\00:42:22.31
I mean it's amazing because
things have happened since
00:42:22.34\00:42:26.17
I've came back to the Lord,
it's like why do I deserve this?
00:42:26.21\00:42:29.63
I don't deserve this and
these things are happening to me
00:42:29.67\00:42:32.60
and that's when you know
that it's from God, you know it.
00:42:32.64\00:42:35.53
That is the only
person that can do it.
00:42:35.57\00:42:37.49
Do you know why? Because
you belong to Him. He's yours.
00:42:37.52\00:42:42.66
He wants to redeem
you, He wants to save you.
00:42:42.69\00:42:45.46
But the key is, you have
to make the choice to accept
00:42:45.49\00:42:49.30
His gift, you had to open
up your heart and reach out
00:42:49.33\00:42:53.10
and that is all it
takes, that is all it takes.
00:42:53.14\00:42:56.79
The Holy Spirit has impressed
your heart to do whatever
00:42:56.82\00:43:00.20
you do. - but you know
Freddie, I think Curly,
00:43:00.24\00:43:02.31
what I have learned about
God, not only does He want to
00:43:02.35\00:43:05.96
redeem me, but He wants to
teach me to laugh out loud.
00:43:06.00\00:43:09.58
Do you know what I
mean? I used to think that
00:43:09.61\00:43:11.84
He just wants me to do the
right thing and tow the line,
00:43:11.88\00:43:14.67
and do the commandments,
and all that stuff is a gift but
00:43:14.71\00:43:17.33
He says I want you to laugh
out loud. I want you to love,
00:43:17.36\00:43:20.45
I want you to take a breath
and just feel good about being
00:43:20.48\00:43:23.54
alive. - turn somersaults,
I like that. - exactly.
00:43:23.57\00:43:25.77
To delight in Me.
00:43:25.80\00:43:27.18
I want to say this. - yes!
- when you go to heaven how
00:43:27.22\00:43:30.95
do you think you're
going to act after that?
00:43:30.98\00:43:33.54
How are you going to
act if you go to heaven?
00:43:33.58\00:43:36.07
If you get in that gate what
do you think you are going to
00:43:36.11\00:43:39.96
do? -Hopefully I'll act
just as silly as I do now.
00:43:40.00\00:43:42.70
That's right, you will be
jumping, and shouting for joy.
00:43:44.24\00:43:47.92
I don't think you are going
to be sitting there, oh thank
00:43:47.96\00:43:51.61
you Jesus, I'm so
glad to be here. - no, no!
00:43:51.64\00:43:55.27
No! I'm going to be happy and
what are we going to do honey?
00:43:55.31\00:43:59.58
- shout! - shout,
give me one honey.
00:43:59.62\00:44:02.33
Listen to this, somebody
was telling me that the angels
00:44:02.37\00:44:05.09
around the throne of
God, 24/7, holy, holy, holy.
00:44:05.12\00:44:08.57
As a new addict in recovery
I'm thinking 24/7, are you
00:44:08.60\00:44:11.65
kidding me? They said, oh
you just have not heard the
00:44:11.68\00:44:14.70
rest of it honey,
and I said what is that?
00:44:14.73\00:44:16.53
They said they yell holy,
holy, holy, and every time they
00:44:16.57\00:44:19.11
tried to get up to do anything
else, God does something
00:44:19.14\00:44:21.65
else and they are like,
holy smokes that was good.
00:44:21.69\00:44:24.38
Oh holy, holy, holy.
00:44:24.42\00:44:26.07
So I'm thinking how fun is that?
00:44:27.45\00:44:29.76
Okay, Larry did
you have a question?
00:44:29.80\00:44:31.75
Well I, I have a problem.
When my mother and father,
00:44:31.79\00:44:35.21
when I was an infant rather
my mother and father separated
00:44:35.25\00:44:38.30
and then when I was two
years old they got divorced.
00:44:38.33\00:44:41.20
As far as I can remember
I had a problem with trust.
00:44:41.23\00:44:44.26
I have not been able to
trust, even now I have a problem
00:44:44.29\00:44:47.28
with trust. You talk
about how quick you changed,
00:44:47.32\00:44:50.44
how did you do that? How
did you know when God was
00:44:50.48\00:44:53.59
talking and somebody
wasn't setting you up? To me
00:44:53.63\00:44:56.67
everybody was setting me
up, how did you know that it was
00:44:56.71\00:45:00.15
God talking to you? I mean
coming from I've never trusted
00:45:00.18\00:45:03.59
anybody, anything I
ever heard I didn't trust it.
00:45:03.63\00:45:06.48
So how did you know
that quick? It seems like it
00:45:06.51\00:45:08.94
happened like that
(snapped finger) for you.
00:45:08.98\00:45:11.33
You know you ask me you know
how do I trust, I think it is
00:45:11.37\00:45:15.76
something that you build on.
00:45:15.79\00:45:17.45
The first time you step
out in faith, okay Lord, You do
00:45:17.49\00:45:22.47
this for me, and it happens.
00:45:22.51\00:45:25.84
The next time you have
more faith, but you almost stand
00:45:25.88\00:45:29.73
back and kind of look at
your self and make sure it might
00:45:29.76\00:45:34.32
happen, but if it doesn't
then you know you still can
00:45:34.36\00:45:39.69
make it. But as I went along,
I knew the Lord has always
00:45:39.73\00:45:45.03
taken care of me. I had
to tell her one-time, how
00:45:45.07\00:45:47.85
we going to pay the bills,
we don't have no money yet.
00:45:47.89\00:45:51.74
Freddie said, don't worry
about it, the Lord has taken
00:45:51.77\00:45:55.59
care of us in the
past and He will do it now.
00:45:55.62\00:46:00.28
He's not going to fail us now.
00:46:00.32\00:46:01.85
You know if you are being
faithful to Jesus, remember
00:46:01.88\00:46:06.11
this, if you are faithful He
is going to take care of you.
00:46:06.14\00:46:11.19
- Amen. - He will. You
know one thing He always says?
00:46:11.22\00:46:16.00
Don't ask for little
things, ask for big things.
00:46:16.03\00:46:20.51
I want to do something
great for you, I am God.
00:46:20.54\00:46:24.99
You know Lord, -
help me find my car keys.
00:46:25.02\00:46:30.88
Oh this is the one about
car keys, this one right here.
00:46:30.92\00:46:35.65
She will lose them, Freddie
are you going to search for
00:46:35.68\00:46:40.02
your car keys? Oh they'll
show up, the Lord will show
00:46:40.06\00:46:43.68
them to me, and they'll
come maybe the next day.
00:46:43.71\00:46:47.30
She has faith in that.
00:46:47.33\00:46:49.77
But I have faith, I know
the Lord is going to bless us
00:46:49.80\00:46:54.05
in a mighty way or
in some way at all.
00:46:54.08\00:46:56.30
You know another thing I
know? And I believe this,
00:46:56.34\00:47:00.49
I believe God is
going to save me. - Amen.
00:47:00.53\00:47:03.80
Do you know that?
- yep, I believe it.
00:47:03.84\00:47:07.03
I know I can't
save myself, I can't.
00:47:07.06\00:47:10.18
If He has brought me thus
far, and has saved me from all
00:47:10.21\00:47:15.74
this stuff, I should be
dead now more than once.
00:47:15.77\00:47:18.89
I OD'd three
times, I should be dead.
00:47:18.92\00:47:23.72
But Lord if you have
brought me this far, I'm still
00:47:23.75\00:47:28.15
messing up, You are
going to save me. - Amen.
00:47:28.18\00:47:31.11
So you've got to learn how
to trust. Do you know another
00:47:31.15\00:47:34.38
way you can do it?
Get to know who Jesus is.
00:47:34.41\00:47:38.18
You know one book I
would recommend that you read?
00:47:38.22\00:47:41.23
- what's that? -
'Desire of Ages'.
00:47:41.27\00:47:43.32
Did you ever open that
book? Did I open the book?
00:47:43.35\00:47:48.09
You know on the last show
you talked about having it by
00:47:48.12\00:47:51.04
your bed side in
jail, but never opened it,
00:47:51.08\00:47:55.38
so eventually you opened
it? It's my favorite book too.
00:47:55.41\00:47:58.20
I was reading Desire of
Ages too and he was reading
00:47:58.24\00:48:00.96
Desire of Ages and we came
together and that is a favorite
00:48:00.99\00:48:03.06
book is Desire of
Ages. Read it man.
00:48:03.09\00:48:05.47
I've got to say too, the
Bible says, to remember every
00:48:05.51\00:48:09.01
single thing God has done
for you in the past so that
00:48:09.04\00:48:12.53
when you are struggling with
anything that you will build
00:48:12.56\00:48:15.69
faith. So build your trust,
build your confidence in Him.
00:48:15.72\00:48:18.82
Guess what I'm doing?
I write letters to God.
00:48:18.85\00:48:21.61
I have written
letters to God for 20 years.
00:48:21.64\00:48:24.33
So now I am writing a book,
teaching ladies, that God can
00:48:24.36\00:48:28.31
take care of your
mental, physical, spiritual, and
00:48:28.34\00:48:30.84
emotional needs and
using my letters as an example.
00:48:30.88\00:48:33.34
So pray for me as I
write this book. - Amen.
00:48:33.38\00:48:35.52
But you know what? even with
that, being able to go back and
00:48:35.56\00:48:38.44
look on what you have written
and how He answered that and
00:48:38.47\00:48:41.50
how He blessed you. Just
being able to say, God I have
00:48:41.53\00:48:44.18
to remember the times You
have blessed me and the things
00:48:44.21\00:48:47.26
You have done for me in my
life so that when I am in doubt
00:48:47.30\00:48:50.66
of any kind, when I have
difficulties trusting, when I do
00:48:50.70\00:48:53.99
crash, I can say, you know what?
He was faithful yesterday. Amen.
00:48:54.02\00:48:59.07
So Fa'asoa you have a question?
00:48:59.10\00:49:01.80
Yes, sort of two
prong Mr. Harris.
00:49:01.84\00:49:04.47
That is, I'm certain there
are fathers out there that are
00:49:04.50\00:49:10.07
watching this program, and
children watching this program.
00:49:10.10\00:49:15.55
What advice would you give
them? Mr. Harris, being through
00:49:15.58\00:49:20.96
the things you have gone through
and at the point where your son,
00:49:20.99\00:49:25.18
as you have said, your son
looked at you and said daddy
00:49:25.22\00:49:30.20
this is where you have gone
to jail because of doing this.
00:49:30.24\00:49:33.48
What would you say, what
advice would you give to these
00:49:33.51\00:49:37.65
daddies and these children?
If they are watching this
00:49:37.68\00:49:41.26
program. - what advice I
would give them? - yes to
00:49:41.30\00:49:44.81
stay away when in the midst of
that decision, should I go rob
00:49:44.84\00:49:48.21
a bank with this friend
of mine, or should I not?
00:49:48.25\00:49:53.69
God has put us as parents
is to be examples to set an
00:49:53.72\00:49:58.44
example for our children,
and I think it is one thing
00:49:58.48\00:50:03.17
I have failed my
children on in a sense,
00:50:03.20\00:50:07.69
but the Lord has
rescued me from that.
00:50:07.73\00:50:12.19
Take advantage of the right
that you have now, that God
00:50:12.23\00:50:17.97
has given you to be the
father that they need to be.
00:50:18.00\00:50:22.52
Just like you with your
daughter, you are loving her,
00:50:22.56\00:50:27.01
and I noticed this today,
you are tender with her, and she
00:50:27.05\00:50:32.48
is loving you, now is the
time to nurture that child.
00:50:32.52\00:50:36.65
Okay? because God is going
to come up one of these days
00:50:36.69\00:50:40.79
and say, what did
you do for that child?
00:50:40.83\00:50:44.62
I have guys in the program
who really done their children
00:50:44.65\00:50:49.73
wrong man, so my advice is
to just love your children.
00:50:49.76\00:50:54.80
Just be there for your children.
00:50:54.83\00:50:57.48
Be the father and set an
example, but you have to have
00:50:57.52\00:51:01.70
Christ in your life, you know?
00:51:01.73\00:51:04.12
He will lead you to be
the father you need to be.
00:51:04.16\00:51:07.23
I have to also say one thing
too, is that for people that
00:51:07.26\00:51:10.72
like myself that got lost
in addictions, and lost in all
00:51:10.76\00:51:14.64
that, is God has the
miraculous ability to reconcile
00:51:14.68\00:51:18.30
you to children, that it
shouldn't even work out ever.
00:51:18.33\00:51:21.88
Your children should never trust
you again but yet God says no,
00:51:21.92\00:51:24.57
no, no, I want to
heal your whole family.
00:51:24.60\00:51:26.72
I want to bring everything
together so if you are out
00:51:26.76\00:51:29.99
there and you are using and
you are afraid that God can't
00:51:30.02\00:51:33.21
do anything, or that
there's too much separation,
00:51:33.25\00:51:35.56
that is a lie.
00:51:35.59\00:51:37.09
God is bigger than all
that and can bring healing into
00:51:37.13\00:51:40.41
places and make it even better.
00:51:40.44\00:51:42.41
He says every single thing
that ever has happened to you
00:51:42.45\00:51:45.67
I actually will turn all
that to good, not that it was
00:51:45.70\00:51:48.69
good I'll turn all that to
good and bless your children.
00:51:48.73\00:51:52.77
Second part of my question,
maybe a comment rather is
00:51:52.81\00:51:56.17
that I am currently attending
a university, a Christian
00:51:56.21\00:51:59.37
university and a lot of
my colleagues, or classmates
00:51:59.41\00:52:02.54
I am sure struggle
with the issue of faith.
00:52:02.57\00:52:04.39
Since you brought up this
faith part in your amazing
00:52:04.43\00:52:08.14
story, what can you
share with them in helping them
00:52:08.17\00:52:12.09
to trust in God, the God
that you both have seen work
00:52:12.12\00:52:15.85
through your lives amazingly.
What can you say to them?
00:52:15.88\00:52:19.51
You know I think trust
comes out of a relationship with
00:52:19.54\00:52:23.45
Christ, you know in this
ministry sometimes, and you do
00:52:23.49\00:52:27.33
it too I'm sure, you get so
busy helping other people, going
00:52:27.37\00:52:30.68
here and there and I read
something by Oswald Chambers
00:52:30.72\00:52:35.39
where he says, he says
activity is the unrecognized
00:52:35.42\00:52:40.06
symptom of
spiritual weakness. - wow.
00:52:40.09\00:52:43.42
Been busy is an unrecognized
symptom of spiritual weakness
00:52:43.46\00:52:47.65
and we have found in this
ministry that we get so busy,
00:52:47.68\00:52:50.82
busy helping all drug
addicts and I get to thinking
00:52:50.85\00:52:53.70
You know, how much time
have I spent with Christ?
00:52:53.74\00:52:56.51
So my answer is, spending
that quality time with Christ.
00:52:56.55\00:53:00.70
Getting to know Him,
that is what builds my faith.
00:53:00.73\00:53:04.63
While I'm falling in love
with Him and being obedient to
00:53:04.67\00:53:08.72
Him, He's taken care of
DAP, He's taking care of your TV
00:53:08.76\00:53:12.78
show, so my key is
more time with Christ.
00:53:12.82\00:53:16.93
People say more prayer
more power, I say more time
00:53:16.96\00:53:20.88
more power, little time
little power, no time no power.
00:53:20.92\00:53:24.29
So the key I think in building
up your faith is spending
00:53:24.33\00:53:27.67
that quality time with
God getting to know Him.
00:53:27.70\00:53:29.74
But you know what I learned
too, and I just want to throw
00:53:29.77\00:53:31.99
this in, is I thought
that I loved God, I thought
00:53:32.03\00:53:35.21
everything was all right
with my relationship with God
00:53:35.25\00:53:38.74
and then I found the
Holy Spirit everyday and now
00:53:38.78\00:53:41.04
I know what love truly is.
00:53:41.08\00:53:42.31
So really turn it over
and ask Him to fill you up and
00:53:42.35\00:53:45.03
do that, you know
what? We are out of time.
00:53:45.07\00:53:48.25
We're out of time? I
know, doesn't it go by too fast?
00:53:48.28\00:53:50.72
I just have to say
you guys come back.
00:53:50.76\00:53:53.12
- we have to come
back! - alright, alright!
00:53:53.16\00:53:55.14
And you too, come back.
00:53:55.17\00:53:57.85
I want a hug too. - okay.
00:53:57.89\00:54:00.50
You know what? Stay
tuned, we will be right back!
00:54:00.53\00:54:03.41
Amazing stories of real people
in real situations discussing
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issues that really matter.
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A complete first season of
Celebrating Life In Recover is
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now available on DVD and
can be ordered by calling 3ABN
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This season follows
principles of the book
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'Steps to Christ'.
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See for yourself how
God changed the lives of the
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convicted and the accused
and victims of terrible crimes.
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You won't want to miss a moment
of these powerful interviews.
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I've got to finish this
story with my husband and the
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computer because I think
it's hilarious the way God works
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with us because I really
got convicted when I found out
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that not only did I manipulate
him with a computer and
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really play him with that,
and my daughter is learning
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to do that with her father
and more than likely with her
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boyfriends and all that
stuff, I thought God forgive me.
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I just wanted to stop. I
went to Brad, Brad we've been
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married almost 19 years and
he has only been a Christian
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the last few years and
I have prayed for him for
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14 years straight
to be a Christian.
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I said, you know what?
I'm so sorry that I wait until
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you become a Christian and
I am still manipulating you
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and undermining
you as a man of God.
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So I felt bad, and I
started crying, and I'm like
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I'm so sorry and
please forgive me.
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Every single time I even
touch this computer, I need to
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take it back because
when I touch this computer
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I feel guilty and it
makes me think of all that.
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He said, every time you
touch the computer you feel
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guilty and you think
of all this? I said yes.
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He said, you
better keep that computer.
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So I thought how
funny is that? That he says,
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learn from that and keep it.
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I think God just
wows me with that.
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I'm going to read a
statement out of a book called,
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'Steps To Christ',
Ellen White's writings.
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It says that many walk
along the path of life, dwell
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upon their mistakes and their
failures, their disappointments
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and their hearts are filled
with grief and discouragement
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While I was in Europe a
sister who had been doing this
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who was deep into distress
and wrote me and asking for some
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word of encouragement.
The night after I had read her
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letter I dreamed I was in
the garden, the one that seems
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to be the owner of the
garden was walking along and
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they were walking
along this pathway.
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They saw all these incredible
flowers and all this kind of
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stuff and this particular
woman, instead of looking at
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the flowers and enjoy the
fragrance of the flowers and all
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that stuff, she was like
looking at, my goodness look at
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all these thorns, and look
at all these weeds, and look at
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all the stuff and she
started moaning and grieving.
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She was not walking
on the pathway at all,
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she was like
way out of the path.
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She wasn't following the
guide she was walking amongst
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thorns and she was like
oh isn't it a pity that this
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beautiful garden is
spoiled with thorns?
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And the guide said, Jesus
said, let the thorns alone for
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they will only worry you,
they will only get in your way.
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Look at the flowers,
look at those kind of things.
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I think in our life He
does the same thing with us.
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We have all this stuff in
our background, and things are
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going to come up and
that is just the way it is.
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But God says, you know
what? Look at the flowers.
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Look at the good things,
remember how you have been
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blessed and let
that strengthen you.
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He promises you that He
will fulfill in you everything
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He says He will and He will
walk you right into recovery
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and then you
will stand up and walk
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someone else into recovery.
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God says that is who I am
and that is how I bless you.
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The next show is going to
be about the Holy Spirit in
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recovery and I am so thrilled
about that so until next
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time I want you to
remember, always remember that
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God is crazy
about you and me too.
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See you next time!
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