Welcome to
Celebrating Life In Recovery,
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Today we're going to
look at what does God want
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us to know about Him.
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About recovery, about
life, this is going to be
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a blast, so come in, join us.
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Welcome back, when I
first came to Christ what was
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really interesting to me is
that everybody said I had to
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get to know who God was, right?
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So I opened up the Bible and
started going through the Bible.
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I was
illiterate, I could not read.
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I can read just a little
bit, but like people would say,
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turn to Revelations
and I would be in the first
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part of the book and trying to
play like I was in Revelations.
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And every Christian was
like she's not even close to
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Revelation, so once I started
getting better and learning
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to read, doing all that
stuff, doing Bible studies.
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It is amazing that God's
going to give us a new heart and
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a new mind and restores our
brain cells at all that stuff.
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He just has all these promises
through the Bible and I am
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thrilled, I'm
thinking how cool is that?
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You know our theme today
is Isaiah 57:18 where it says,
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God knows all about us,
every single thing about us.
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He wants to heal us
anyway, and I am thinking Amen.
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All those things are
good to know, but I thought
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you know what? God wants us
to know a ton of other stuff.
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As I'm getting to be a
Christian, and this is like 10
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years because it takes me
a while to learn something.
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So 10 years into my Christianity
I start learning about
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you know what? Maybe I can
start taking better care of
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myself, and I'm such a mess.
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I've been homeless for 10
years, heroin addict, my parents
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were addicts, my sister
has a porn line on Internet and
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sells Coke for living,
and my other sister is a meth
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addict, I mean our whole
family is totally a mess.
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So I mean I am really
having to learn a lot of stuff.
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I was molested since I
was three months old, I mean
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I have all this junk, and
so as I'm learning who God is
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and I'm trusting that,
turning my recovery over to Him,
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somebody comes up to me
and says you know what Cheri?
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Do you know why you're
such a mess? I said why is that?
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They were so serious that
I'm thinking they're going to
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give me something right
now it is going to be good.
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I wish I had a notepad,
because I would write this down.
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They said because
you're not eating right.
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I'm like shut up, I'm
serious and so I'm thinking.
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Really, is that it? That
all this junk that has happened
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in my life means nothing,
I just need to get some brown
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rice and a convert,
and I'm like alright.
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So I said, well how do
you learn to eat right?
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They say, go to a seminar,
and I'm like shut up is that it?
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I've been struggling for 10
years in my recovery and going
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to meetings and learning
about the Word of God and trying
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to figure out, I have every
self-help book on the planet.
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On the planet, how to socialize,
because I don't know how.
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My palms sweat when I had
to sit down with somebody at
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pot luck because I don't
know how to eat with anybody.
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I don't how to trust people,
everybody for the first five
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years if somebody just
brushed beside me or touched me
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I would think what do you
want? What do you want from me?
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It was like I was like I was
so untrusting, but if I learned
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this, it's all good. So I get
a notebook, I get in the front
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row, I am at a seminar on
how to learn to eat right.
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There's a thousand people
at this seminar, I couldn't
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believe how many
people came to hear this guy.
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And a really don't take
the guys name because you will
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know him, and if you are
out there this is for you.
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Anyhow, so I go to this
seminar, and he comes running in
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because he is in
this incredible shape.
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He has the best little
body, and I'm thinking man
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he looks good. He runs
all the way up the aisle on to
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the stage, and I'm thinking wow.
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He said he was a triathlon
athlete, and I'm ignorant,
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thinking I don't know what
that is but it sounds good.
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And he explains what that
is for about a half an hour.
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So he tells you all about
his stuff, and all about this
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at all about that and
I'm thinking how incredible.
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His training, his family
history, he was raised by normal
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folks and I'm so jealous I
think I want to shoot somebody
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when they say that.
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My family are drug addicts
you know. That doesn't mean
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that I want to shoot
somebody, I've gotten better,
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you know in my recovery.
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But I just feel like that
is an incredible gift to have
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normal parents and so
he was talking about that.
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Then he says
something that almost killed me.
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It literally felt like
somebody grabbed my soul
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and ripped it out.
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He said if you've ever had
one bite of meat in your life,
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you should never presume to
stand up and talk about Christ
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in front of somebody.
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I just had a hamburger, so
I wanted to tell him shut up,
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you cannot be telling the truth.
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And then he said, and I'm
sitting there feeling like I
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can't hardly breathe because
somebody is taking God away
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from me, it is the only
thing I can hold onto in
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my life and because I
have been such a mess.
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He said you know what?
One sin is no different than
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another if you have
had a hamburger you might
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as well, it you have
eaten it, you might as well as
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gone to Mustang Ranch.
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and I know what Mustang
Ranch is some people don't.
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I'm not even going to go into
that, we'll just use another
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sin if you have had a
hamburger you might as well
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as killed somebody.
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I thought you know what?
Shut up! I wanted to scream.
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I wanted to say you need to
stop talking, you need to shut
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up because I am not going
to live through this seminar.
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I'm in the front row and
there is a thousand people and
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I can't just walk out, I
really excuse me you don't know
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me but I need you to shut up.
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It was like stop this meeting.
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So he kept talking and kept
talking and he kept talking.
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With an addict in recovery
we get hurt for about a minute
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and then what do you
think happens? We get angry.
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I was so mad, I'm in the
front row and I cannot put my
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hand down, I'm
thinking you need to call on me.
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I have something I want to say.
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He is talking about his
triathlon and some award he's
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got or whatever, and he
finally called on me, like what?
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I'm right in the
middle of my thing.
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I said does the Bible talk
about the sin of pride anywhere?
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Because you know you
are in trouble if it does.
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You might as well eat a
hamburger, cause you are in such
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trouble, and I went
home and I walked out.
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It was time to walk
out, I was so angry.
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So I went home and I am
crying with snot dripping out of
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my face and I am praying
and telling God, you know
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what was I doing fooling
myself that you would love some
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body like me,
heroin addict in recovery,
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homeless and all
that kind of stuff.
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Who am I to think that you would
tolerate me at all, I don't
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know anything and what I am
finding out is that every time
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I think I have gotten one
step further, I stopped heroin,
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I not striping in clubs,
I'm not doing all this stuff.
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I'm trying to not even cuss.
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And that's a little hard, I
still smoking and I know I'm
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spraying perfume so
people don't have to smell the
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cigarettes when I come
in, but I am working on that.
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I remember I was like
crying and talking to God and
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He gives me a vision.
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This is weird because
people say, God doesn't do that.
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He does do that, He
wants to speak to us.
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He wants to communicate with
us and with the Holy Spirit,
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He wants to fill us
with a knowledge of Him.
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He gives me the vision
and I see nothing but I see
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everything, I don't
know how He does that.
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But it is a time that I
had truly overdosed years ago
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in a drug house,
so it is a true story.
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When I overdosed and didn't
see it, Janette you work with
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Addicts, you know
what I am talking about.
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I didn't see it, there was
a bunch of addicts around me
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and they tried to do CPR right?
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I had slammed a bunch of heroin
and it was more potent than
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I normally had and I
went out, I started going into
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seizures, I was throwing
up all over the place and my
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heart stopped and they had
to remove the stuff from my
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mouth and breathe for me.
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But what He showed me was
actually what happened at that
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event, so I got to see it.
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I don't know how He does
that but I feel like I was
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present at that event.
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I lost, when you go into
seizures you loose bowel and
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bladder control, I lost
bowel and bladder control,
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you know it was disgusting
and when He showed me,
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I felt He showed me what
it was like with the throw up,
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with smells, with
all that kind of stuff.
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They finally put me in the
shower and put ice all over me
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they thought I was going to die.
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I obviously didn't and I
came out of that and I remember
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saying, God, God wait
because I came in here praying
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just because I was guilty
because I had a hamburger.
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You show me this whole
scene at a drug house and it
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didn't make me feel better,
I do not feel better with that
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and God said something
that changed my life forever.
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He said Cheri I loved you
as much as when you were laying
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in your own feces in a
drug house, do not make this
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a behavioral thing, you are
My child, and I am your Father
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and I am crazy about you.
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I thought Man,
do I even know God?
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All of a sudden I realized,
that eating is important,
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all that stuff is
important, but God loves me.
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God loves you, there is
nothing we can do that is going
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to change God's mind
about us, but He said there is
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a knowledge I want
you to have of who I am.
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Before I introduce you to
the guest, and the guest is
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amazing, but before I
introduce you to the guest
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I just want to
say who is here today.
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We have people Leo
Schreven, I love you. - you do?
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You are a life coach,
motivational speaker all over
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the world, you speak with
hundreds of thousands of people
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all the time and when I called
Leo, just got to say I'm going
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to introduce you to him in a
minute, but when I called Leo
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he was like I will be in
Africa and just be flying home.
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I said but do you know
what can you stop by my place?
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Just do the show with us,
and I love you because you said
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yes. - I am glad to be here.
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Susan you have been on the
show before, and I love you.
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Larry and Janette, we lived
in the same state and the only
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time we actually get to see
each other is when we do this
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kind of thing, which is fun.
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And Betty and Fasoa, I
just want to say God bless you
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guys for being here.
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I want to tell you one more
thing before I introduce you
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to Leo, and the next
thing is that God gets me into
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ministry and I love that.
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From sitting and trying to
learn how to be a Christian,
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eat right and all that
kind of stuff I start praying to
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God that I want
to work in ministry.
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And years later, I mean,
He was doing, I mean He is
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teaching social things,
He's working with the attachment
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disorders and bonding disorders,
He's working all my trust
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issues and He is so faithful,
I mean He is so amazing.
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I had teeth knocked out
because I got beat up by a
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motorcycle gang and
God gave me new teeth.
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My jaw in my face was so
infected from being homeless for
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10 years, they literally
had to go in and scrape the
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infection off my jawbone to
hold the teeth that I had left
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before they gave me the
new teeth. You know God is just
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faithful and He has been
faithful every step of the way.
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So now I say, I
want to be in ministry.
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When God opens a door,
I am a worldwide ministry.
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How fun is that? All
over the world working with
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who do you think, addicts.
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You know what? at first I
said, no way, I don't like them.
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They will lie to me and
manipulate me, they run games on
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everybody and play you
like crazy God, not fair.
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Can I teach like
English in China?
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I'll do Sabbath school,
I'll teach the Bible, I don't
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want to work with
people that are a mess.
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You know to see something
wrong the cut their head off,
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I'm just like I
do want to do that.
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He said that is what you
are going to do, that's what
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you're going to do.
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So after I got that I
thought how fun is that?
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So I get a call one time
and I'm doing Camp Meeting,
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women's retreats, talking in
schools, having a blast going
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to jails, prisons and rehab
centers, homeless shelters and
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I'm having a blast because
as an addict in recovery needs
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to do something
like that, right?
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We had a TV show, radio
show and all that stuff and
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I get a call one day, I
can't even tell you what
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health Institute, you
would know if I told you.
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From a vegan
vegetarian health Institute.
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They said Cheri, we're having
our annual seminar, and we
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want you to be a speaker.
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I'm like, shut up, there's
no way I just had a hamburger.
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I'm thinking there's
no way, how funny is this?
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And the other speaker, I
just have to say this because
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it makes it more funny is
Hans Diehl, I don't know of
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anybody knows him, he's
like a health nut of the planet.
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I mean he is like, he's
incredible what he knows about
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health and I don't mean
nut in case Hans Diehl is
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watching, he's
absolutely amazing.
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But he is the other
speaker so I want to say no,
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you don't even know,
have you read my book?
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But anyhow they say
no, we want you to speak.
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I'm like really, so
God is telling me yes.
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I'm saying God,
excuse me God You can't.
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I finally said yes and
I go to this health place.
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So I am now at
this health place.
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I walk in for breakfast
and I'm telling you this is the
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truth, they have
plates of fruit, I love fruit.
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It's no problem
for me, I love fruit.
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But putting the fruit
aside they are eating the white
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stuff on the rind, with
this little white stuff rind
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remover fork, I'm thinking
am I in the twilight zone?
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Rind on the fruit had
they're saying this is an
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antioxidant, and I don't
know if anybody knows that.
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I didn't know that and
I thought it looks freaky.
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So as soon as I saw that, I
think I am definitely in the
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wrong place and I need to
go out and go back to my room.
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Praying God, what are
you doing to me? You know,
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You can't do this to me.
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So then I'm thinking, I
never write notes or figure out
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what I'm going to say or
even these shows, we kind of
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pray beforehand to see
what God is going to do for our
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stories and stuff, so
I'm saying God you are got to
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tell me what I'm going to say.
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Because I'm scared, Hans Diehl
is talking, I finally go into
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the Auditorium, they
are going to introduce me
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after he finishes his last word.
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There are all these health
nuts sitting there and I'm
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thinking, Oh Man, so they
finally say Cheri we're so glad
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to have you, and I'm
thinking you don't even know.
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I shouldn't even be here,
it is like God is going to zap
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us, you, me, who ever.
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I get up on the stage and
I have no idea what to say.
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I had the mic on and I'm
looking at them, they are
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looking at me, not a
word for almost a minute.
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That is a long time when
you are in front, it's a long
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time and finally I said
God I've got to say something.
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He said just tell the
truth, so I just said,
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you know what? I don't know
why I am here because I don't
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even like health nuts.
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And there are some people
that laugh but it was actually
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pretty quiet in this room
and I'm thinking you know what?
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I really don't and I'm not
sure why I'm here and I'm not
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a health nut, I'm not even
a vegetarian, I'm too flaky
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to know anything about
all that kind of stuff.
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But I know you can't eat
enough brown rice to deal with
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your emotional issues.
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And all the sudden God
gave me this whole sermon about
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part of what He wants to do
with us is to teach us about
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the Bible, part of me
wants to teach us about health.
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But also He wants to
teach us how to live right.
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How to think right, how to
actually live a life that is
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free from all that stuff.
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And that is what we are going
to talk about today because
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you know God
doesn't want us in bondage.
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He does not want us tied
up, but if you are chasing any
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thing trying to get well,
rather than surrendering it to
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God and figuring out what He
wants you to know about that,
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you'll die skinny.
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I've seen some health nuts
real skinny, really looking
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angry all the time, sunken
eyes and you know God wants
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us to be healthy, happy and
full of joy and enjoying life
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We are going to take a
break and I'm going to introduce
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you to our guests
when we come back.
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My most favorite part of
the show, I want to tell you,
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This is my favorite part
of the show where I get to
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introduce you to
some of the guests.
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And today we're going to
have on Leo Schreven, and the
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first time I worked with him
was that Cowboy Camp Meeting.
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I didn't even know we had
a Cowboy Camp Meeting and he
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got up and he talks so fast,
but I am ADD so I'm thinking
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oh I love this guy and
he's just like one thing after
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another after another and I
fell in love with you on that
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Camp meeting, and we've
worked a little bit together
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since then and you are
going to tell us what you know
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about making the right
choices and about life.
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You are a life coach aye?
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Yep that is what we
do. - okay, and what else?
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Can you start telling a
little bit of your testimony?
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- yeah. - especially
about the guy and the...
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- yeah the hold up, we
call it the cowboy hold up.
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First of all it is a
pleasure to be with you and
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I appreciate so much what
you are doing and what a joy.
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But yeah it goes back to
1975 when I was a messed up
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teenager, I was just born
violent and out of control.
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I made bad choices
until I got to the age of 15.
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My mother began to pray for me,
there's nothing more dangerous
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then a praying mother,
you might as well give up.
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So anybody out there if
your mother's praying for you,
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just give up now and
save yourself a lot of pain.
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At any rate, so yeah we had
an experience with these two
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guys that come to our
house and held us up for three
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hours, and try to
kill us three times.
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- first of all I have to
say, you and your brother are
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pranksters, you thought
when the guys came in your
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brother was - no, no that
was my brother's girlfriend.
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My brother had just flown
in with his girlfriend Mary
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three hours before and
he is a terrible prankster.
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So when these two guys jump
in our house and blow the door
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open and are holding us up,
she thinks this is a sick joke
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and walks up to the one
guy laughing, this is a really
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funny joke, and shut up lady,
and the guy throws her down.
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It took us 10 minutes to
convince her that these guys
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are real, and when she
realized she passes out.
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At any rate, so we got off
to a bad start and they didn't
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like us from the get go.
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But that is how it started
and I'm just sitting there
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thinking, man I'm going to
die tonight, where am I going?
00:18:15.95\00:18:17.74
I knew I wasn't going
to heaven that was a given.
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So I figured I was going to hell
and it's just a bad feeling.
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You don't think about
life and death when you are 15.
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It lasted for three hours
and they finally took us in
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the garage and they were going
to kill us, they lined us up.
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And my praying mother, the
most amazing thing she just
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starts praying out
loud and singing out loud.
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These guys are trying to
shoot her, it was unreal.
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To make a long story
short they couldn't pull the
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trigger three times, they tried.
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You seem like they went on
and shot other people after
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they left our house, but
that was the night that I said
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I'm sick of my life and I'm
tired of doing it my way and
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there has got to be a
better way of life than this.
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It is the first time I decided
to put God in my life and
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the Bible, and I'll
tell ya it changed my life.
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I begin to spend a half hour
in the Bible every day, then
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and hour, and then two
hours, then three hours.
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Aged 15 to 20 spent
three hours a day in the Bible.
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I never had to worry about
my foul mouth, it was gone.
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I never had to worry about my
bad attitude, it went like that.
00:19:06.08\00:19:08.04
- it went out just
like that? I'm so jealous.
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Well there's reasons -
mine didn't go that fast.
00:19:09.93\00:19:12.92
- is that right. - I had
to struggle with different
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things. - it's
different for different people.
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For me I was so sick of
how I was I think, and here
00:19:16.78\00:19:19.46
was something better,
every- thing Jesus was I wasn't.
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It was pretty easy, by
beholding you become changed.
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It just so radically
changed my life in a matter of
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months, and it is
a great way to live.
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We have devoted our whole
life to just doing seminars.
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How did you get
into life coaching?
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How did you get into
that whole kind of ministry?
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Yeah well, when I went to
high school everybody had issues
00:19:36.65\00:19:39.78
and God has so
radically changed my life.
00:19:39.81\00:19:42.37
Who doesn't have issues,
but the teachers were coming
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To me for counseling
and I am 16 years old.
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They're coming to me for
counseling but I began to read,
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I'm a ferocious reader and
I read two books a week and
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it's probably the best
decision I made in my life.
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I've read hundreds of
book on life mastery skills.
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Psychology, just the
study and the answers are there.
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They are all Bible-based,
which is the most amazing thing.
00:20:01.93\00:20:04.08
This stuff has been
in the Bibles for years.
00:20:04.11\00:20:05.84
Just simple tools sometimes,
one or two little tools can
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make all the difference.
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So I started to teach
it even before high school,
00:20:09.53\00:20:11.84
from high school and went
into the ministry, and the
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ministry kept on teaching
and doing seminars for 24 years.
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- all over the
world. - all over the world!
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You just got back from
Africa. - yeah last night at one
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o'clock in the morning.
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And talk about even the
Africa trip, how was that and
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what did you do?
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It was awesome, we did
Germany and Africa together.
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I do corporate work as
well as a lot of church work,
00:20:27.99\00:20:31.22
volunteer work.
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We had been there to Germany
first of all I'll start there
00:20:32.23\00:20:35.16
because Germany is a very
secular society and they don't
00:20:35.19\00:20:37.98
really believe in God,
but the all power principles
00:20:38.01\00:20:40.26
we teach, these life
skill principles, they love it.
00:20:40.29\00:20:43.13
They come out and so we
have been there several years
00:20:43.16\00:20:45.20
before and the neat thing
was coming back to the people
00:20:45.23\00:20:47.27
and seeing how they have
grown and the testimonies.
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One young lady Bulimic,
terribly bulimic had gone down
00:20:49.52\00:20:52.04
70 pounds and
almost killed herself.
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She came a year and a
half ago, came back and she was
00:20:53.72\00:20:56.66
just thriving and
healthy and it was so beautiful.
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People had quit smoking,
had a great one quit smoking.
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I've got to tell you this story.
00:21:02.52\00:21:03.49
- smoking is the hardest thing.
00:21:03.50\00:21:05.28
- yeah we help people do
it in five minutes, there's
00:21:05.31\00:21:07.53
a five-day plan but everything
in my life is fast and
00:21:07.56\00:21:08.86
don't have time for five days.
00:21:08.89\00:21:09.88
We have a five minute plan
- remember when I talk to you
00:21:09.91\00:21:13.18
about him talking fast,
don't you love him? I love you.
00:21:13.21\00:21:16.55
Seriously why
take five days when
00:21:16.58\00:21:18.63
you can do it in five minutes?
00:21:18.66\00:21:19.63
But this couple came to me
in British Columbia just before
00:21:19.64\00:21:21.89
I went to Germany and they
were telling me, do you remember
00:21:21.92\00:21:24.98
our son? I said yes I
remember you got us stop smoking
00:21:25.01\00:21:27.53
eight years
ago. - I said really.
00:21:27.56\00:21:29.07
They said you told us to
invest the money we're putting
00:21:29.10\00:21:31.26
up in smoke and we have
been doing that and we just paid
00:21:31.29\00:21:33.83
$380,000 for a brand-new
house just on the money
00:21:33.86\00:21:37.39
we saved from smoking. - no way.
00:21:37.42\00:21:38.84
So yeah it was - they
were smoking quite a bit.
00:21:38.87\00:21:42.85
Oh yeah, about five
packs a day between Canada
00:21:42.88\00:21:45.05
it's very
expensive to smoke there.
00:21:45.08\00:21:46.58
It's like 6-7 dollars a
pack - they are just putting
00:21:46.61\00:21:49.82
that away, the money they
were putting up in smoking
00:21:49.85\00:21:52.17
they put on the house.
00:21:52.21\00:21:53.25
So Africa was awesome and
we go there, this is South
00:21:53.28\00:21:55.77
Africa and most people
would think that is largely a
00:21:55.80\00:21:58.02
black community, but it
is largely a white community.
00:21:58.06\00:22:02.16
We had 1700 show up and
you can't believe the changes
00:22:02.20\00:22:06.27
in these people's lives.
00:22:06.30\00:22:07.27
- You are saying that a
number of them were actually
00:22:07.28\00:22:08.96
millionaires, people that
you wouldn't even think about.
00:22:09.00\00:22:11.14
The reason I think of that
sometimes it's when we think of
00:22:11.17\00:22:13.19
addiction and trying to get
our lives together, we think
00:22:13.22\00:22:15.20
of addicts. - like
gutter, if I can use that word.
00:22:15.24\00:22:17.54
- that is only a small
percentage of the population.
00:22:17.57\00:22:19.84
It is you would be
amazed, you would be amazed.
00:22:19.87\00:22:22.43
I don't care across
culture, across income levels,
00:22:22.47\00:22:25.08
every part of social
anomic, it makes no difference.
00:22:25.12\00:22:27.70
Everybody has got
challenges. - right.
00:22:27.74\00:22:29.23
Sometimes they are more
hidden, sometimes they are more
00:22:29.26\00:22:32.01
professionally bathed, but
they are all there and so yes
00:22:32.04\00:22:35.95
I've studied with thousands
of multimillionaires through
00:22:35.98\00:22:38.60
the years, and our seminar
tends to attract them because
00:22:38.63\00:22:41.61
we teach life mastery
skills on a professional level.
00:22:41.64\00:22:43.20
But boy when you sit
down one on one, I don't care
00:22:43.23\00:22:46.15
who they are, they can be
a Fortune 500 company owner,
00:22:46.18\00:22:47.87
but they have got issues.
00:22:47.91\00:22:49.07
We live here in this
world. - this is it, this is it.
00:22:49.11\00:22:52.67
So we don't have a lot of
time because the show is short,
00:22:52.70\00:22:55.66
so I want you to teach us
some of the stuff you teach.
00:22:55.69\00:22:58.13
And know this is Celebrating
Life In Recovery, so this
00:22:58.16\00:23:01.55
is people coming out of
junk, normal junk, twisted junk,
00:23:01.58\00:23:05.70
just stuff. -
sure, sure, it's real.
00:23:05.73\00:23:08.97
It's really real and
that is the best thing.
00:23:09.00\00:23:11.21
Well the first thing we
teach is how to make a new
00:23:11.24\00:23:12.92
beginning, Paul said forget
what is behind you, put what's
00:23:12.95\00:23:15.17
before you and
press toward the mark.
00:23:15.20\00:23:16.81
One of the biggest things
is people's ability to forgive
00:23:16.84\00:23:18.81
themselves and realize
that anybody makes mistakes,
00:23:18.84\00:23:21.37
everybody makes mistakes
but there is always a brand-new
00:23:21.40\00:23:23.95
beginning and even if God's plan
A, B. or C it doesn't matter
00:23:23.98\00:23:26.22
where you are on the scale,
there's a new beginning today.
00:23:26.25\00:23:28.61
So we really teach that
and how to take responsibility
00:23:28.64\00:23:30.57
for your life, that
is something critically
00:23:30.60\00:23:32.66
important in our seminars.
00:23:32.69\00:23:33.78
People don't realize that
is like almost the first step
00:23:33.81\00:23:36.45
If I know I take
responsibility I can change.
00:23:36.48\00:23:38.95
I have power for that day.
00:23:38.98\00:23:40.41
- that's the starting
point. I think a lot of modern
00:23:40.44\00:23:42.41
psychology which I do not
want to say this critically,
00:23:42.44\00:23:44.32
but they had to go
through your past and dig it up
00:23:44.35\00:23:46.28
and dig it up and dig it
up so finally you have someone
00:23:46.31\00:23:48.24
to blame for why
you are like you are.
00:23:48.27\00:23:50.05
We teach you to take full
responsibility for your life and
00:23:50.08\00:23:52.60
the day you do that you put
the steering wheel back in your
00:23:52.63\00:23:54.10
hands, quit blaming your
mom, quit blaming your dad,
00:23:54.13\00:23:55.96
quit blaming your circumstances.
00:23:55.99\00:23:56.97
If you choose to,
anybody could have a life of
00:23:57.00\00:23:59.60
victory and power.
00:23:59.63\00:24:00.60
And if somebody says,
like I could say to you but Leo
00:24:00.61\00:24:03.02
you don't understand
I had a horrible life.
00:24:03.06\00:24:05.36
What would you tell me?
00:24:05.39\00:24:06.96
I would tell you to quit
focusing on your horrible life.
00:24:06.99\00:24:09.19
I had two ladies
the other day in Alaska.
00:24:09.22\00:24:12.46
The first one came in and
she was mad and angry and bitter
00:24:12.49\00:24:14.80
and hateful and I tried to
help her for an hour but she
00:24:14.83\00:24:17.72
was, bless her heart my heart
just broke for her, but she
00:24:17.75\00:24:19.80
wouldn't let me help her.
00:24:19.83\00:24:20.88
Your a man. Didn't
you get it? She hates men.
00:24:20.91\00:24:25.27
Oh I am sorry go ahead.
00:24:25.30\00:24:26.50
Alright, I didn't get that?
00:24:26.53\00:24:30.62
No, I love it, I just love
it, but the point is she had
00:24:30.65\00:24:36.36
been abused by her father
and she took that and she used
00:24:36.39\00:24:40.24
it as a weapon
to destroy her life.
00:24:40.27\00:24:42.03
And the next lady came in, and
said there is a little Methodist
00:24:42.06\00:24:44.73
church across the road from
where I grew up and I was abused
00:24:44.76\00:24:46.42
until I was 17, and she said
that Methodist church taught
00:24:46.45\00:24:48.50
me that all things work
together for good, and I decided
00:24:48.53\00:24:50.35
I'm going to turn
this into a stepping stone.
00:24:50.38\00:24:52.00
I'm going to be the one
that breaks this chain of abuse
00:24:52.03\00:24:54.12
that has been in my
family for generations.
00:24:54.15\00:24:55.39
She talked for 10 minutes,
maybe two minutes and told me
00:24:55.42\00:24:58.36
what happened, the rest of
the time she's smiling and has
00:24:58.39\00:24:59.94
her degree in child psychology
and devotes her life to
00:24:59.97\00:25:02.04
helping abused children.
00:25:02.07\00:25:03.04
She is happy and fulfilled,
the difference was how they
00:25:03.05\00:25:05.19
interpreted their
experience. - Amen.
00:25:05.22\00:25:06.89
And we teach people that
you can use it as something to
00:25:06.92\00:25:08.99
destroy yourself, or you
can find a positive meaning for
00:25:09.02\00:25:11.52
it and it will take
your life to the top.
00:25:11.55\00:25:13.25
Incredible, God really
wants you to find a positive
00:25:13.28\00:25:16.70
meaning for it, He really wants
you to surrender it to Him so He
00:25:16.73\00:25:19.53
can actually lift you out
of that. - yeah, that's right.
00:25:19.57\00:25:21.82
That is an incredible
way to start. - you bet.
00:25:21.85\00:25:23.55
So everybody makes a new
beginning take responsibility.
00:25:23.58\00:25:25.96
Once that
happens, you can go on.
00:25:25.99\00:25:27.64
We talk about the two
forces that control all behavior
00:25:27.67\00:25:29.47
and its very fun.
00:25:29.51\00:25:30.48
Most of us don't realize
there are two things built in us
00:25:30.51\00:25:32.63
by God and everything
we do is for these reasons.
00:25:32.66\00:25:35.13
I'm so bad what is it? Tell
me! - give me the money, no.
00:25:35.16\00:25:40.36
pay me. Alright go ahead.
00:25:40.40\00:25:44.30
It's two things,
pain and pleasure.
00:25:44.33\00:25:45.58
Think about it, everything
you do in your life is for
00:25:45.62\00:25:47.65
pain or pleasure.
00:25:47.68\00:25:48.65
They did a study in the book,
The Day America Told the Truth.
00:25:48.66\00:25:51.53
They found out that 34%
of married men cheat on their
00:25:51.56\00:25:53.98
wives in America.
00:25:54.01\00:25:54.98
Now every man intellectually
knows - I'm calling my
00:25:54.99\00:25:57.77
husband, what are
you doing right now?
00:25:57.81\00:26:00.82
I'm sorry go ahead.
34% - I love this show.
00:26:00.86\00:26:06.93
Yeah one out of three of
us, now every guy intellectually
00:26:06.97\00:26:11.13
knows that is going to
ruin his finances, devastate his
00:26:11.16\00:26:13.31
home, wreck his children,
everything and they still do it.
00:26:13.34\00:26:16.54
Why? Because we like
pornography we like sex, we like
00:26:16.57\00:26:20.07
it's pleasure. - You guys are
visual and it brings pleasure.
00:26:20.10\00:26:22.91
He also guy has an affair
he does it with a woman mostly,
00:26:22.94\00:26:24.90
most of the time anyway.
00:26:24.93\00:26:25.90
And so for a few moments
of pleasure, he is willing to
00:26:25.91\00:26:29.34
ruin his entire life see.
00:26:29.38\00:26:30.58
We teach people it's pain
or pleasure that makes you do
00:26:30.61\00:26:33.58
everything in your life and
the biggest challenge we have is
00:26:33.62\00:26:36.46
we associate pleasure to
hundreds of things that limit
00:26:36.49\00:26:39.08
our life. - and causes
pain eventually. - exactly.
00:26:39.11\00:26:41.46
Even to the point we turn
on the television and watch
00:26:41.49\00:26:43.81
another man blow
another man's head off and
00:26:43.84\00:26:45.02
we are
entertained by it you see.
00:26:45.06\00:26:46.35
Once you associate pleasure
to sinful degrading, negative
00:26:46.38\00:26:49.57
limited things,
your life will go down.
00:26:49.61\00:26:51.42
The day you associate
pleasure and happiness to Godly,
00:26:51.46\00:26:53.67
good, pure and wholesome
things your life goes up.
00:26:53.70\00:26:55.87
Skiing, snowboarding,
photography, traveling
00:26:55.91\00:26:58.65
- so many fun and wholesome
things, so we teach people
00:26:58.68\00:27:01.29
how to put those two
forces where they belong.
00:27:01.33\00:27:02.49
Then how to make instant
changes and this is probably
00:27:02.53\00:27:04.54
the most
powerful thing we teach.
00:27:04.57\00:27:05.71
It is how the brain
works. Most people won't realize
00:27:05.74\00:27:07.93
their habits are bound
up in their neural pathways.
00:27:07.96\00:27:10.47
Everything you do is a
neural pathway in your brain.
00:27:10.51\00:27:13.21
The more you do it the more
strands it adds to cables in
00:27:13.24\00:27:15.91
your brain that make
you go down certain areas.
00:27:15.94\00:27:18.32
- and I have to
butt in - please do.
00:27:18.35\00:27:20.97
Because you know you changed
my life the first time you
00:27:21.00\00:27:23.55
taught me that, and totally
when you say you get this
00:27:23.59\00:27:26.07
you can actually change within
so it really did change me.
00:27:26.10\00:27:30.15
I teach that at every
school I go to, I just love it.
00:27:30.18\00:27:32.96
I'm so happy that it was
a blessing. - it's amazing.
00:27:32.99\00:27:35.19
People when they see that
seminar I don't care where
00:27:35.22\00:27:37.26
you are, I could have a room
full of atheists, I can have
00:27:37.30\00:27:39.46
a room full of addicts and
they look at it like a thousand
00:27:39.50\00:27:41.59
light bulbs go off in their head
and they say man, for the first
00:27:41.63\00:27:44.40
time I finally know
why I'm behaving like I do.
00:27:44.43\00:27:45.86
I understand the habits I
have are there and I can't seem
00:27:45.89\00:27:48.34
to break them and then we
teach them how to change their
00:27:48.37\00:27:50.79
neural pathways and
it is not hard to do.
00:27:50.82\00:27:52.48
Once the neural pathways
don't exist and new ones are in
00:27:52.51\00:27:56.20
their place your
behavior changes automatically.
00:27:56.24\00:27:58.23
That is just so powerful.
00:27:58.26\00:27:59.76
- so you have to understand
how you were made. - right.
00:27:59.80\00:28:02.36
How your brain works, how
your behaviors are set or not
00:28:02.39\00:28:04.96
set. - exactly and the
audience may wonder shall I give
00:28:04.99\00:28:07.52
you two minutes
of it? - yes, yes.
00:28:07.56\00:28:08.81
What it boils down to is every-
thing you do from the time you
00:28:08.84\00:28:11.15
are born in the mother's
womb, at four months the
00:28:11.19\00:28:13.66
neural pathways begin to form.
00:28:13.69\00:28:14.66
So if a mother sits in
front of a television and she
00:28:14.70\00:28:17.06
hears violence and screaming
and anger, the baby's neuro
00:28:17.09\00:28:19.42
pathways are being formed.
00:28:19.45\00:28:20.48
They learned
that, let's take anger.
00:28:20.51\00:28:22.20
Every time you are angry
or watch someone that is angry
00:28:22.24\00:28:24.40
or you read a book where
people are angry, anything you
00:28:24.44\00:28:26.57
hear or see a fracture
audio and visual senses.
00:28:26.61\00:28:29.27
It adds a strand to the
neuro pathway and that it adds
00:28:29.30\00:28:31.83
another strand. - they
kind of wrap around itself.
00:28:31.87\00:28:34.10
Yeah a rope is not one
piece of material but thousands
00:28:34.14\00:28:36.00
bound together and the
same thing happens in the brain.
00:28:36.04\00:28:38.01
Pretty soon you end up
with these huge cables in your
00:28:38.05\00:28:39.90
brain and you see it so
many times and you've heard it
00:28:39.94\00:28:41.90
so many times and it
takes you down an automatic path
00:28:41.93\00:28:43.70
of behavior, because
God wired to bring this way.
00:28:43.73\00:28:45.43
But the neat thing is that
you can break it, we teach that
00:28:45.46\00:28:47.74
people by interrupting the
patterns, first of all getting
00:28:47.77\00:28:50.15
motivation, interrupting
the patterns with Bible verses,
00:28:50.18\00:28:52.52
songs or prayers,
jokes or whatever.
00:28:52.56\00:28:53.71
Yet it's fun and then you
create a new neural pathway
00:28:53.75\00:28:57.52
that is the behavior you want.
00:28:57.56\00:28:58.97
Once that happens you
don't have to worry about your
00:28:59.01\00:29:00.75
behavior anymore because
it is an automatic condition
00:29:00.79\00:29:02.54
response, if I say to you
birds of a feather what do
00:29:02.58\00:29:04.29
you say? - Flock
together. - yes see.
00:29:04.33\00:29:06.35
The reason this neural
pathway, you didn't think you
00:29:06.39\00:29:08.64
didn't analyze you
just went down that path.
00:29:08.68\00:29:10.68
So a man is known by
the company he - keeps.
00:29:10.71\00:29:12.76
There again. - it's
automatic. - I love that.
00:29:12.79\00:29:14.81
Never leave home without it.
00:29:14.84\00:29:17.21
I love this we could do
this all day. Okay go ahead.
00:29:20.20\00:29:22.25
The point is it is an
automatic response, how many
00:29:22.28\00:29:24.29
automatic responses do we have?
00:29:24.32\00:29:25.53
If you are drug addict
is an automatic response.
00:29:25.56\00:29:27.90
If you are a
professional and somebody offers
00:29:27.94\00:29:30.03
you something, I can't
do it, we can't afford it.
00:29:30.06\00:29:32.12
You see these are
automatic responses.
00:29:32.16\00:29:33.13
So you wake up in the
morning it's cloudy and rainy,
00:29:33.15\00:29:34.48
how I dress? It's
an automatic response.
00:29:34.51\00:29:36.04
So if you teach people
how to break those and put new
00:29:36.07\00:29:38.79
neural pathways and they ding
dong along the positive path.
00:29:38.82\00:29:41.85
Then you take that to the Bible
it says renewing your mind.
00:29:41.88\00:29:44.87
That is all we teach
us how to renew your mind
00:29:44.91\00:29:46.56
like the mind of God.
00:29:46.60\00:29:47.57
They don't know in the
audience but that is what we are
00:29:47.58\00:29:49.66
teaching them. - and when
the Bible also says the joy
00:29:49.70\00:29:51.94
the Lord as your strength,
you actually are filled with
00:29:51.98\00:29:54.12
joy after that and
anticipating life. - absolutely.
00:29:54.15\00:29:56.26
- okay the next one.
I love this, next one.
00:29:56.29\00:29:59.75
I need a notepad, if
somebody taking notes here?
00:29:59.79\00:30:02.96
The next was the
awesome power decision, because
00:30:02.99\00:30:05.27
everything in your life
depends on your decisions.
00:30:05.31\00:30:07.52
It is the one thing that God
doesn't control in your life.
00:30:07.56\00:30:09.52
He tells you how to do it
but ultimately you have to make
00:30:09.56\00:30:11.64
the choice here after, so
if you want to go to heaven you
00:30:11.68\00:30:13.36
can go to heaven, if you want
to go to hell you get to go.
00:30:13.39\00:30:16.32
Isn't that great? So here
you are free and how to harness
00:30:16.36\00:30:18.99
that, most of us get on
the river of life and we don't
00:30:19.02\00:30:21.23
decide where we are going
to end up and we just become
00:30:21.27\00:30:23.40
a part of this massive humanity
that goes with the flow.
00:30:23.43\00:30:25.82
We flow down this river of
life and comes to a fork and do
00:30:25.85\00:30:27.97
I go right or do I go left,
do I go midstream, we don't make
00:30:28.00\00:30:30.09
a decision, we
just go with the flow.
00:30:30.12\00:30:31.46
Pretty soon we end up 5 feet
from a massive water fall and
00:30:31.49\00:30:33.79
a boat without a motor and
that is usually when people
00:30:33.82\00:30:36.39
cried God help me! But
there's nothing God can do.
00:30:36.43\00:30:38.93
Your going to take a fall,
sometimes it's an emotional fall
00:30:38.97\00:30:41.40
sometimes it's a fall in a
relationship, sometimes it's a
00:30:41.43\00:30:43.57
physical fall. - financial -
but it hurts, you know it hurts.
00:30:43.61\00:30:47.26
So we teach people to make
better decisions upstream and
00:30:47.30\00:30:50.91
that way you won't
go through the falls.
00:30:50.95\00:30:52.37
So we teach them how to
role model, people that are
00:30:52.41\00:30:53.98
successful in their spiritual
life, or their financial
00:30:54.01\00:30:55.51
life, physical life or whatever
have to make good decisions
00:30:55.55\00:30:57.95
consistently. - I've got a
story to tell you on this and
00:30:57.99\00:31:00.36
it just fits
perfectly with that.
00:31:00.39\00:31:01.84
The guy has a sex addiction,
he's trying to deal with it.
00:31:01.88\00:31:05.31
But when he gets really
stressed, when he is feeling put
00:31:05.34\00:31:07.80
down, not respected and
all that stuff he has problems.
00:31:07.83\00:31:10.47
So he has problems with his
wife, at work the boss is on
00:31:10.50\00:31:13.10
him and all that kind
of stuff, problems at work.
00:31:13.13\00:31:15.68
And he said you know
what? I'm sick of this and I'm
00:31:15.71\00:31:18.19
just going to go to the store
and get a Pepsi on the way home.
00:31:18.22\00:31:20.23
He goes to the store to get
a Pepsi, the store he always
00:31:20.27\00:31:23.11
goes to and right next
to the Pepsi are the porn
00:31:23.14\00:31:24.89
magazines. So he ends up
getting the magazine and he is
00:31:24.93\00:31:27.17
going to go home and he is
just going to go through the
00:31:27.20\00:31:29.41
magazine, but I am not
going to do anything else.
00:31:29.44\00:31:30.87
So he is going to the magazine
and decides to cruise the
00:31:30.90\00:31:33.28
streets, so he's
cruising the streets and he is a
00:31:33.31\00:31:35.20
Christian so he never buys
hookers but he likes to look
00:31:35.23\00:31:37.65
at them, so he looks at
all that and comes home.
00:31:37.68\00:31:40.59
Gets in trouble with some
self pleasure and stuff and then
00:31:40.63\00:31:45.14
he gets online and
do some porn stuff.
00:31:45.17\00:31:48.31
He starts get into treatment
with someone that is holding
00:31:48.35\00:31:51.07
him, accountability person
and do you know they tell him?
00:31:51.11\00:31:53.79
Stop drinking Pepsi. - exactly.
00:31:53.83\00:31:56.05
So stop way upstream, and
a lot of people want to stop
00:31:56.09\00:31:59.61
in the middle of a
crisis we want to stop.
00:31:59.65\00:32:01.24
We say don't stop
there, stop in your head before
00:32:01.28\00:32:04.33
you even start
acting out. - right.
00:32:04.37\00:32:05.78
That is all going back
to making proper decisions.
00:32:05.81\00:32:08.06
We have lost that art. One
of guests was commenting today
00:32:08.10\00:32:11.21
that we have lost the ability
to be committed to anything.
00:32:11.25\00:32:14.22
The decision means that I'm
going to do this and cut myself
00:32:14.25\00:32:17.19
off from any other
possibility of accomplishing it.
00:32:17.23\00:32:19.21
So learning that skill is very
fundamental to really overcoming
00:32:19.24\00:32:22.31
any habits or
addictions in our life.
00:32:22.34\00:32:24.21
When you even say that,
sometimes when you actually make
00:32:24.25\00:32:26.94
those commitments to
yourself and stop something,
00:32:26.97\00:32:29.49
it feels like it's going
to kill you not to do it.
00:32:29.53\00:32:31.98
Maybe for the first time or
second time or third time or
00:32:32.02\00:32:34.44
fourth time, but eventually
you start feeling actually
00:32:34.47\00:32:37.08
good. - you build the new
neural pathway and it becomes an
00:32:37.12\00:32:39.70
automatic
response and it is easy.
00:32:39.73\00:32:41.62
God just loves to do
that for us. Okay next thing.
00:32:41.65\00:32:44.79
Yeah, well the next is on
health and fitness and weight
00:32:44.83\00:32:47.05
loss and
mastering our physical body.
00:32:47.08\00:32:48.27
Now I need a notepad.
Alright this presentation is an
00:32:48.31\00:32:52.00
hour and a half but we
cover some really cool stuff.
00:32:52.04\00:32:55.20
Of course 3ABN and other
channels carry a lot of this
00:32:55.23\00:32:58.67
kind of information, but we
do it on a basis most people
00:32:58.71\00:33:02.11
your greatest
wealth is your health.
00:33:02.14\00:33:03.92
You have a hundred bucks in
the bank it does you no good if
00:33:03.96\00:33:05.97
you don't have health and
so we look at it from that
00:33:06.00\00:33:07.92
standpoint, our bodies
are the temple of God and God
00:33:07.95\00:33:09.83
knows how to take
care of it the best.
00:33:09.87\00:33:12.14
The more I come in
harmony with that the better.
00:33:12.18\00:33:14.57
I'm 45 years old today,
and because eating right and
00:33:14.61\00:33:17.18
drinking right and a very
clear exercise program I feel
00:33:17.21\00:33:19.63
better today and have
more energy than when I was 16.
00:33:19.66\00:33:22.04
I can't imagine you
with any more energy.
00:33:22.08\00:33:24.34
It's like oh no. - I'm
glad you're not serving coffee
00:33:24.37\00:33:27.83
today. - but even what's
interesting about the health
00:33:27.86\00:33:30.94
thing is that I started
out being taught in a very
00:33:30.98\00:33:33.99
negative way, but as I get
taught it in a positive way it
00:33:34.02\00:33:36.98
is really cool to think clearer
and to be happy and to have
00:33:37.02\00:33:39.95
energy in the
morning and not to be tired.
00:33:39.98\00:33:42.42
You know I did an experiment,
I'll confess to the audience
00:33:42.45\00:33:45.54
two years ago I go to Alaska
on a camping trip up there.
00:33:45.57\00:33:48.93
I'm with a group of hunters
and I went into a camp with
00:33:48.96\00:33:52.60
a cholesterol level of
114, I keep it close to healthy.
00:33:52.63\00:33:55.37
I decided to break every
rule so I ate meat and I drank
00:33:55.40\00:33:58.57
pop and I ate donuts and
just confused my body and I
00:33:58.60\00:34:01.70
came out of camp at 298 on
my cholesterol two weeks later.
00:34:01.74\00:34:06.01
I felt terrible and it was
hard to move it hard to get
00:34:06.05\00:34:10.25
up in the morning then I did
a quick cleanse and got back on
00:34:10.29\00:34:12.74
my regular diet and exercise
and I feel good all day long.
00:34:12.77\00:34:15.24
But there's people, there's
a guy that even did a movie
00:34:15.27\00:34:17.93
about that, not eating a
real healthy thing for a month
00:34:17.97\00:34:20.82
and almost died, he had
diabetes, he had weight gain,
00:34:20.86\00:34:23.71
his sexual stuff with his
wife decreased at all that kind
00:34:23.75\00:34:26.57
of stuff, but we don't
know and I really believe for
00:34:26.60\00:34:29.31
people in recovery, if
they could get this message.
00:34:29.35\00:34:31.99
Take care of yourself, drink
water and get away from all
00:34:32.02\00:34:35.51
the junk, and it's not that
God says I'm going to punish
00:34:35.54\00:34:38.21
you and you've not going to
have anything you enjoy again,
00:34:38.24\00:34:40.87
God says you are
going to have life again and
00:34:40.91\00:34:43.18
you will be surprised
at how hard you laugh.
00:34:43.21\00:34:45.42
How good it is. - that is
something about the Bible,
00:34:45.45\00:34:48.70
and I say this to every
audience, the Bible is not
00:34:48.73\00:34:51.40
religion. I hate religion,
religion has caused more
00:34:51.43\00:34:54.07
heartache and
bloodshed than anything else.
00:34:54.10\00:34:55.79
It binds people and controls
people, but man the Bible
00:34:55.83\00:34:59.21
and Jesus liberates
people and everything about
00:34:59.25\00:35:01.83
Christianity, it makes
life better, you're marriage
00:35:01.87\00:35:03.99
better, and your health
better, your sanity better
00:35:04.03\00:35:06.12
and everything is better.
00:35:06.15\00:35:07.16
It's the only way to live,
if there was no heaven or hell
00:35:07.19\00:35:09.24
I'd still be a Christian
is an incredible way of life.
00:35:09.27\00:35:11.29
And I just love it.
00:35:11.32\00:35:12.53
- I love that, I love
that. Okay next thing.
00:35:12.57\00:35:14.64
Next thing is on your spiritual
part because you realize
00:35:14.67\00:35:16.65
most people miss a
quarter of the potential power
00:35:16.69\00:35:18.65
they can have in their life
because we thrown Jesus out,
00:35:18.69\00:35:21.03
we thrown Bible out
in much of our culture.
00:35:21.07\00:35:22.50
- we thrown the Holy
Spirit out. - and yet when
00:35:22.53\00:35:23.89
you get that time of
devotional life, daily devotion.
00:35:23.93\00:35:26.44
Most people wake up and
they turn on the TV, what kind
00:35:26.48\00:35:28.96
of life is that?
There's nothing but negativity,
00:35:28.99\00:35:30.92
negativity and it
just drives you crazy.
00:35:30.96\00:35:33.06
Then you go to work people
are frazzled and cussing all
00:35:33.09\00:35:35.18
day and then turn on the radio
and hear all the talk shows with
00:35:35.21\00:35:37.93
this is happening in the govern-
ment, unsafe streets health care
00:35:37.97\00:35:40.65
and teenage pregnancy,
then you turn on the country-
00:35:40.69\00:35:42.73
western station and
Henry the hillbilly is crying
00:35:42.76\00:35:44.77
about his wife
leaving him for another man.
00:35:44.81\00:35:46.76
Goodnight it's no
wonder people are messed up.
00:35:46.79\00:35:48.67
You put in all that negativity
and going to live that way see.
00:35:48.70\00:35:51.79
You need some quiet time
to read and feed the mind, as
00:35:51.83\00:35:55.43
spiritual, happy, positive,
loving and so we teach people
00:35:55.46\00:35:58.72
how to get a devotional
life so they can get that power,
00:35:58.75\00:36:01.97
get that joy, get that love.
00:36:02.01\00:36:03.35
We know at first it is
really tough because at first
00:36:03.38\00:36:06.60
you think I don't
even know what to think of.
00:36:06.64\00:36:08.27
Your mind is
wandering and all that stuff,
00:36:08.31\00:36:10.26
and you really do
have to train yourself.
00:36:10.30\00:36:12.18
It's like I need to
get this stimulation down,
00:36:12.22\00:36:15.03
I need to do all that
kind of stuff but at first when
00:36:15.07\00:36:17.80
I tried it, I thought
I'm going to die here.
00:36:17.84\00:36:19.35
Well I had the same experience
when I started to read
00:36:19.39\00:36:21.33
the Bible it was the
most stupid, dumb, boring book
00:36:21.37\00:36:23.28
I ever read in my life.
00:36:23.31\00:36:24.28
It made no sense
to me, I hated it.
00:36:24.29\00:36:25.26
But like anything in life,
if you want something you have
00:36:25.27\00:36:27.48
to put into it, you
have to work for it.
00:36:27.51\00:36:28.78
I hated English in schools
too, boy am I glad I took it.
00:36:28.81\00:36:33.14
At any rate what I found
is that you have to stick with
00:36:33.18\00:36:36.53
it because the cardinal
mind is at enmity with God.
00:36:36.56\00:36:39.84
It will not naturally like
the Bible or spiritual things.
00:36:39.88\00:36:42.12
But you stick with it,
the first week I hated it.
00:36:42.16\00:36:45.02
The second week
it was still boring.
00:36:45.06\00:36:46.41
The third week began to
make sense and the fourth week
00:36:46.44\00:36:48.97
I met the man Jesus.
00:36:49.01\00:36:49.98
All I can say is that
Jesus and Leo were different.
00:36:49.99\00:36:53.04
Very different, and the
more you behold Him the more
00:36:53.07\00:36:56.10
you become like Him.
00:36:56.14\00:36:57.11
And pretty soon I enjoyed it
so much an hour or two or three.
00:36:57.12\00:36:59.67
Even to this day the one
priority in my life is time
00:36:59.70\00:37:02.75
with God just get that positive
joy, love in your heart.
00:37:02.78\00:37:05.53
You said earlier the joy
of the Lord is your strength.
00:37:05.56\00:37:07.92
You'll mount up on wings as
eagles. You'll run and not be
00:37:07.96\00:37:10.29
weary, you will
walk and not faint.
00:37:10.32\00:37:11.29
There is a supernatural
power, I am totally convinced
00:37:11.30\00:37:13.95
of this in the Bible
that is available to everybody
00:37:13.99\00:37:16.30
but you have to plug in,
no one can plug in for you.
00:37:16.34\00:37:18.62
We teach that
whole spiritual part.
00:37:18.66\00:37:20.94
Even an atheist sitting in
the audience, they look at that
00:37:20.98\00:37:23.66
that and say wow, I'm missing
a quarter of the potential
00:37:23.70\00:37:25.82
power I could have a my
life, I'm going to go get it.
00:37:25.86\00:37:27.95
And it is great
and that is that.
00:37:27.98\00:37:29.98
I love that, I love that.
But I think until you make
00:37:30.02\00:37:33.92
a commitment you never do
figure out what people are so
00:37:33.95\00:37:36.85
excited about, make the
commitment and you will find out
00:37:36.89\00:37:39.55
Exactly, exactly it's
like getting married, everybody
00:37:39.59\00:37:41.69
talks about it but once
you get married you say I love
00:37:41.72\00:37:43.79
this companion and it
is a great way of life,
00:37:43.83\00:37:45.89
a lot better than being single.
00:37:45.93\00:37:47.17
The same thing with
Jesus, it is a whole lot easier
00:37:47.21\00:37:48.83
going through life
with Jesus. - with God.
00:37:48.87\00:37:50.85
Okay what next? The next
one is a fun one, you talk about
00:37:50.89\00:37:53.78
emotions, and many of us
battle debilitating emotions.
00:37:53.82\00:37:56.18
I feel badly
today. Is that right?
00:37:56.22\00:37:59.49
I want five minutes, I
want a five-minute thing.
00:37:59.53\00:38:02.45
I'll give it to
you in five minutes,
00:38:02.48\00:38:04.14
I'll give it to
you in one minute.
00:38:04.18\00:38:05.15
All emotion is
experienced only on one level.
00:38:05.16\00:38:07.29
The physical level,
people don't realize this.
00:38:07.32\00:38:09.56
We bring a guy on the
stage in our live seminar,
00:38:09.60\00:38:11.76
this is hilarious, I say all
right audience help me get this
00:38:11.80\00:38:13.95
guy depressed, what does
he have to do to be depressed?
00:38:13.99\00:38:17.06
Well he has to hang his head.
00:38:17.09\00:38:18.25
So he hangs his head, and
get a frown, so he frowns.
00:38:18.28\00:38:20.10
Got to slump his shoulders,
he slumps his shoulders.
00:38:20.13\00:38:22.13
And after we go through
this whole thing, did you notice
00:38:22.16\00:38:24.75
one thing you told this
guy to get him discouraged and
00:38:24.78\00:38:27.33
depressed had to
do with his body.
00:38:27.36\00:38:28.89
His head down, his frown,
slumped shoulders and that is
00:38:28.92\00:38:31.98
the power of your physical body.
00:38:32.02\00:38:33.17
You can use this body to
create any happy or power
00:38:33.20\00:38:36.20
of emotion, you can use it to
create a disempowered emotion.
00:38:36.24\00:38:39.32
And try this, you can
look at the audience right now
00:38:39.35\00:38:41.73
and try to put a big smile
on your face and try to get mad.
00:38:41.76\00:38:43.88
It just doesn't work.
00:38:43.92\00:38:45.10
I can look at you right
now and say Cheri I hate you.
00:38:45.13\00:38:47.81
You make me so mad, you
can't. And the reason is your
00:38:47.85\00:38:50.14
body is sending a
different message to your brain.
00:38:50.17\00:38:52.87
If you put your body in a
state of happiness, so you
00:38:52.90\00:38:55.57
end up with that
corresponding emotion.
00:38:55.60\00:38:57.14
That is the power
of the physical body.
00:38:57.17\00:38:58.64
Think about the truth of
this, people do all kinds of
00:38:58.67\00:39:00.61
things to their body.
00:39:00.65\00:39:01.62
We are talking about
addictions on this program.
00:39:01.63\00:39:04.16
Why do people to drugs?
Why do people to alcohol?
00:39:04.20\00:39:06.81
Why do they overeat?
Because it changes their body
00:39:06.85\00:39:09.43
and they behave differently.
00:39:09.46\00:39:10.93
We always ask our
audience, do drugs work?
00:39:10.97\00:39:13.29
And you say no. I say
come on think about this.
00:39:13.33\00:39:15.47
Do drugs work? Yes or
no and finally they finally
00:39:15.51\00:39:17.62
did it and say
yeah, sure true they work.
00:39:17.66\00:39:19.48
Millions of people
can't be wrong. - right.
00:39:19.52\00:39:21.27
The thing is they work
temporarily, but they work
00:39:21.30\00:39:24.49
because they
actually change the body.
00:39:24.53\00:39:25.77
So once you could realize
the power of this, and by the
00:39:25.80\00:39:29.08
way you have mastered
Cheri, because I watch you,
00:39:29.12\00:39:32.46
you are always walking fast
and with purpose, and that is
00:39:32.49\00:39:34.57
one of the things we teach
how you walk is how you feel.
00:39:34.61\00:39:36.61
You walk with purpose and
passion and you feel good.
00:39:36.65\00:39:38.95
Exactly, you put a smile
on an exactly you will have
00:39:38.99\00:39:41.25
those emotions and
so it is a simple tool.
00:39:41.29\00:39:43.19
It is real simple because I
try to challenge myself as I'm
00:39:43.23\00:39:46.83
thinking about negative
things, I tell myself stop,
00:39:46.87\00:39:49.29
don't do that because I
don't want that kind of life.
00:39:49.33\00:39:52.49
I want you in less than
two minutes to tell me all of
00:39:52.53\00:39:55.66
them, all the rest.
00:39:55.69\00:39:57.46
Because how many points to
cover in a PowerPoint seminar.
00:39:57.49\00:40:00.54
We can cover 20 in a
typical all power seminar.
00:40:00.57\00:40:02.27
- hurry up a lot
faster. You are so slow.
00:40:02.30\00:40:05.64
Audience is bored to
death. - I know, come on.
00:40:05.68\00:40:09.95
Okay so the next time we
teach is on achieving success.
00:40:09.99\00:40:12.62
Our value systems and our
belief systems, we get rid
00:40:12.65\00:40:15.25
of the negative belief systems.
00:40:15.29\00:40:16.26
Next one is on goal
setting, my favorite one of all.
00:40:16.28\00:40:18.26
How to create
your future in advance.
00:40:18.29\00:40:19.39
The Bible says without a
vision the people perish.
00:40:19.42\00:40:21.21
So we had to create
exciting goals in our life.
00:40:21.25\00:40:22.96
You just don't fall out
you've got to think about it.
00:40:23.00\00:40:25.33
Exactly, your physical
life, your emotional life, your
00:40:25.36\00:40:27.66
spiritual life and
everything. So we do that.
00:40:27.69\00:40:29.15
The next one is some
breaking unlimiting rituals.
00:40:29.18\00:40:30.56
We have unlimiting rituals
are life, internal as well as
00:40:30.60\00:40:33.05
external and we deal with those.
00:40:33.08\00:40:34.12
- you know what, say
one unlimiting rituals.
00:40:34.15\00:40:37.10
Waking up grumpy, did
you hear the great joke about
00:40:37.14\00:40:39.60
waking up grumpy? - no.
00:40:39.63\00:40:40.90
I was sitting with a couple
one time I looked at her and
00:40:40.93\00:40:43.25
said to you always wake up
grumpy, she says no sometimes
00:40:43.28\00:40:45.56
I let him sleep.
00:40:45.60\00:40:46.73
Anyway we break these
rituals, and it's fun we laughed
00:40:49.42\00:40:52.69
the whole seminar and we
are having fun doing a series.
00:40:52.72\00:40:55.96
We are having a good time.
00:40:55.99\00:40:57.00
After doing unlimited
rituals we do overcoming fear.
00:40:57.04\00:40:59.05
The Bible says that God
has not given a spirit of fear,
00:40:59.08\00:41:01.18
but the power,
love and a sound mind.
00:41:01.21\00:41:02.50
Fear stops us, fear of failure,
fear of rejection, fear of what
00:41:02.54\00:41:04.85
other people think about us.
00:41:04.88\00:41:05.85
We destroyed the fear and
get confidence in its place.
00:41:05.86\00:41:08.50
We deal with solving
problems, how to solve problems
00:41:08.53\00:41:11.04
effectively, simple
principles that really work.
00:41:11.07\00:41:13.91
We deal with is own
power of positive thinking.
00:41:13.95\00:41:16.72
That gets into the conscious as
well as the subconscious mind.
00:41:16.75\00:41:18.68
We could do a whole
talk on this sometime.
00:41:18.72\00:41:21.28
You know I think sometimes
I would love to do that,
00:41:21.32\00:41:24.32
and I wanted to say to you
is there so many things that
00:41:24.35\00:41:27.07
you cover and I want to
open it up for questions for the
00:41:27.10\00:41:29.79
group here and have
them ask you some things.
00:41:29.82\00:41:33.21
Then maybe cover
some of what you teach.
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.34
It is one thing I know
about people in recovery, and
00:41:35.37\00:41:37.84
people that want to change
their life, or have a life.
00:41:37.88\00:41:40.53
I don't want to just be
in charge, I would be in love
00:41:40.57\00:41:43.33
with God, right? And there's
something to have to happen.
00:41:43.37\00:41:46.01
So it is like all those
things matter, change the way
00:41:46.04\00:41:48.44
you think, changing the
way you live, changing what
00:41:48.47\00:41:50.79
you eat, how you look at
life, how you walk out in life.
00:41:50.83\00:41:53.77
So we are going to ask
him questions like Jeanette,
00:41:53.80\00:41:56.18
I know you had a
question for Leo.
00:41:56.21\00:41:58.01
Yes, the question is when
you were talking about limiting
00:41:58.04\00:42:01.36
one of the things I hear people
say is I can't do you do that?
00:42:01.40\00:42:05.71
I get it a lot as addiction
professional or I can't,
00:42:05.75\00:42:09.56
can't not use or I can't
stay sober during the holidays.
00:42:09.59\00:42:13.45
I think what you were
saying was correct, it's just a
00:42:13.48\00:42:16.76
self-fulfilling prophecy.
Do you see it that same way?
00:42:16.80\00:42:19.49
Exactly, if I expect to
fail, it greatly increases
00:42:19.52\00:42:22.18
my changes I'm going to.
00:42:22.21\00:42:23.41
So we simply write the word
can't and we tell them how to
00:42:23.45\00:42:25.62
knock off the 'T', you are
never allowed to use that word.
00:42:25.66\00:42:27.67
You know my daughter is five
years old and she came to me
00:42:27.70\00:42:29.68
just a couple days ago,
she said Daddy I can't do this.
00:42:29.72\00:42:32.21
I said whoa stop, I say
where did you hear that word?
00:42:32.24\00:42:35.02
What word. Can't. She said
well I think I heard it from
00:42:35.06\00:42:37.81
my cousin, and I said
that is the most dirty four
00:42:37.84\00:42:40.53
letter word, foul word
that you could ever use.
00:42:40.56\00:42:43.20
You are never to use
that word again. Okay daddy.
00:42:43.23\00:42:46.04
I showed her c-a-n-'-
t and knock off the 'T'
00:42:46.07\00:42:48.84
I can do anything, see.
00:42:48.88\00:42:50.34
It basically goes back to
who you are going to believe.
00:42:50.37\00:42:52.37
The devil says you can't do
it, you're worthless, you're
00:42:52.40\00:42:54.36
stupid, you're a failure.
00:42:54.40\00:42:55.37
Gods as I can do all
things through Christ.
00:42:55.38\00:42:57.03
Who do you believe? It
is reprogramming the brain.
00:42:57.07\00:42:59.70
It is the law of attraction,
if I say I can't do it,
00:42:59.74\00:43:02.20
I will attract that to
myself, if I said can do it,
00:43:02.24\00:43:04.53
I can do all things to
Christ and it's a done deal.
00:43:04.56\00:43:07.30
When I first got into
recovery, my favorite thing was,
00:43:07.33\00:43:09.70
oh I should have done
that, I could have done that,
00:43:09.74\00:43:12.38
I wish I would have done
that, and so I got a pin for
00:43:12.41\00:43:14.99
myself, and on the pin it
says "Don't Should On Me".
00:43:15.03\00:43:18.24
S H O U L D and I used
to think of that because I'm
00:43:18.28\00:43:21.43
not allowed to say that to
myself and being able to teach
00:43:21.46\00:43:23.79
yourself to not say
that to yourself anymore.
00:43:23.82\00:43:26.75
It takes a while, like any
pattern to reprogram yourself.
00:43:26.79\00:43:30.36
You are not
allowed to say that word.
00:43:30.39\00:43:32.00
- yeah, you have to reprogram
the brain, not hard to do.
00:43:32.04\00:43:34.05
But you can do it.
- any other questions?
00:43:34.09\00:43:36.29
I know that Faso a
you had a question.
00:43:36.33\00:43:38.47
Yes, Leo, by the way this is
very fascinating what you are
00:43:38.50\00:43:41.96
talking about, and I
am currently a student at
00:43:41.99\00:43:44.59
a university, I'm
attending the seminary.
00:43:44.63\00:43:47.15
And I have a lot of friends
and we struggle with issues of
00:43:47.19\00:43:51.95
I can't, or issues of I'm
prioritizing, different issues.
00:43:51.98\00:43:57.06
Including our professors,
what can you say to, as they are
00:43:57.10\00:44:00.51
watching this program, if
they are watching this program
00:44:00.55\00:44:03.93
Will help them get
out of this rut that
00:44:03.97\00:44:06.74
we get ourselves into?
00:44:06.77\00:44:07.92
Your mind is like a file box,
every time a situation comes
00:44:07.96\00:44:11.20
up in your life, whether it
is school, work, or whatever
00:44:11.24\00:44:14.03
you do, you're mind automatical-
ly goes back to these files
00:44:14.06\00:44:16.82
ever created, and a lot of
our files in our brain were
00:44:16.86\00:44:19.15
created by our parents.
00:44:19.19\00:44:20.20
If you had an impatient father
that said you were stupid,
00:44:20.24\00:44:22.07
you can't do anything
right that is one of our files.
00:44:22.10\00:44:24.33
We have all these belief
systems and whenever a situation
00:44:24.36\00:44:26.55
presents itself we go
back to one of those files.
00:44:26.58\00:44:28.11
So it's a matter of changing
the files on a daily basis.
00:44:28.15\00:44:31.44
Taking action in every area
that you are weak in or that
00:44:31.47\00:44:34.73
you need to grow in.
00:44:34.76\00:44:35.73
So we teach people how to
focus on where are the areas
00:44:35.74\00:44:38.70
you most need growth, what
areas are you lacking most,
00:44:38.73\00:44:41.67
and then how can we
get by day make one choice.
00:44:41.71\00:44:44.29
You see life mastery,
it's like losing weight.
00:44:44.33\00:44:46.84
I didn't get fat overnight,
it was a steady one step at a
00:44:46.87\00:44:49.78
time, not following the right
health plan, not exercising,
00:44:49.82\00:44:52.45
not eating correctly, and
the same thing with losing it.
00:44:52.49\00:44:55.08
I have to
step-by-step by step do it.
00:44:55.12\00:44:56.48
The culmination of little
daily successes is what builds
00:44:56.51\00:44:59.26
you, so if you can take
one action today in this area
00:44:59.29\00:45:01.96
of your life, whether it's
procrastinating, or whatever
00:45:02.00\00:45:04.60
the thing you are doing as a
student, and then tomorrow take
00:45:04.63\00:45:07.42
another action and
next day another action,
00:45:07.45\00:45:08.45
this is what we teach people.
00:45:08.49\00:45:09.85
We set a goal, here's what
I'm going to do, but everyday
00:45:09.89\00:45:12.57
take one small action and over
a month you end up overcoming.
00:45:12.60\00:45:15.53
But deliberately, have
it be a deliberate thing.
00:45:15.56\00:45:18.70
- yes. - when I first got
in recovery I started to do
00:45:18.74\00:45:21.51
that, and one time I
even decided I'm going to send
00:45:21.55\00:45:24.29
myself something for
having such a success.
00:45:24.33\00:45:26.76
I went to a floral
shop and had them pick some
00:45:26.80\00:45:29.16
wildflowers and I like getting
them in the mail so I had
00:45:29.20\00:45:32.29
them sent to myself and
wrote a card, you're doing an
00:45:32.33\00:45:35.39
amazing job and had
them set them to me.
00:45:35.42\00:45:38.02
What is really interesting
is when you do change your
00:45:38.06\00:45:41.11
life skills, when you
decide to do that, really tell
00:45:41.14\00:45:44.15
yourself good job
and think about it.
00:45:44.19\00:45:46.10
Don't let it just be a success
that happened all by itself
00:45:46.13\00:45:49.21
because you had a good test
that day, but actually think
00:45:49.25\00:45:52.03
I'm going to do this today
and is going to feel good to
00:45:52.06\00:45:54.81
have it be successful.
00:45:54.85\00:45:56.07
Ya, I give myself gold medals,
I stand on a platform and
00:45:56.11\00:45:59.22
play the national anthem
while tears are coming down my
00:45:59.25\00:46:02.33
eyes, you do have
to reward yourself.
00:46:02.37\00:46:06.29
It's almost like it took
us forever and people have
00:46:06.33\00:46:09.05
really reinforced all the
negative stuff that we have to
00:46:09.09\00:46:11.74
get either people around
us to reinforce the positive
00:46:11.77\00:46:14.39
stuff or us
ourselves to reinforce that.
00:46:14.42\00:46:17.43
It's like being able to
say God, I believe, is our
00:46:17.47\00:46:21.04
favorite cheerleader, God
is up there, all the angels are
00:46:21.07\00:46:23.21
up there not looking at
what we do wrong in life.
00:46:23.24\00:46:25.43
They are really looking
forward to us to get it.
00:46:25.47\00:46:27.62
Come on just get
it because I love you.
00:46:27.66\00:46:30.16
I created you to laugh out
loud and to love each other
00:46:30.19\00:46:33.29
and to enjoy life.
00:46:33.32\00:46:34.29
And anytime we decide to
do something right I think God
00:46:34.30\00:46:37.46
just says, oh my
goodness I think he's got it.
00:46:37.49\00:46:39.79
I think he's got it I can
see it in his eyes. Right?
00:46:39.83\00:46:42.72
It's a matter of making it
very deliberate and that is
00:46:42.75\00:46:45.42
what I so love about your
program, it's so deliberate.
00:46:45.45\00:46:48.08
Larry I know that you
had some thing you would
00:46:48.11\00:46:50.18
like to ask him.
00:46:50.22\00:46:51.28
What you said about cables,
building cables, well I've got
00:46:51.32\00:46:53.71
cables in my brain and
they are building up pretty good
00:46:53.74\00:46:56.09
except that I seem to
know where I've got to go.
00:46:56.13\00:46:58.55
I'm following that path
and I get to a certain point
00:46:58.58\00:47:01.25
and look down here, and I
know what I am supposed to,
00:47:01.28\00:47:03.96
but there is like a gap
there and I can't get to it.
00:47:03.99\00:47:06.45
It's like something got me
by the feet and I can't move.
00:47:06.48\00:47:08.90
How do I get from
this point to that point?
00:47:08.94\00:47:11.73
His cables aren't
connected. - No they are not.
00:47:11.76\00:47:14.52
Anyone with a habit or
an addiction in their life,
00:47:16.48\00:47:19.90
what ever it, has this challenge
00:47:19.94\00:47:21.78
It basically boils down to
this, recognize first of all
00:47:21.81\00:47:24.31
that your behavior is
rooted in your nervous system.
00:47:24.35\00:47:26.78
Everything you do, everything
you say, when you lose your
00:47:26.81\00:47:29.10
temper, when you smoke a
cigarette, when you do the drug,
00:47:29.14\00:47:31.40
it is because a neuro
path where you have done it
00:47:31.43\00:47:32.96
over and over again
and it automatically takes
00:47:33.00\00:47:34.50
you down that path.
00:47:34.53\00:47:35.50
So what you have to change
is that actual neural pathway.
00:47:35.51\00:47:37.87
If you try to change your
behavior you to spin your wheels
00:47:37.90\00:47:40.38
the rest of your life.
00:47:40.41\00:47:41.39
You try and fail, try and fail.
00:47:41.43\00:47:42.82
So what we teach people is
first of all you have to have
00:47:42.85\00:47:44.92
motivation, first
step is motivation.
00:47:44.96\00:47:46.24
That only comes
through pain and pleasure.
00:47:46.28\00:47:48.10
You have to hit a threshold
where you say I'm sick of
00:47:48.13\00:47:50.10
living this way, I don't
want this in my life anymore,
00:47:50.14\00:47:52.33
and an associate pleasure
to being free of that habit.
00:47:52.36\00:47:54.81
That is a whole study in
itself but pain and pleasure
00:47:54.84\00:47:57.25
you have to put
in the right place.
00:47:57.28\00:47:58.25
You are associating pleasure
to your drugs then you have
00:47:58.26\00:48:00.02
to associate pain to it.
00:48:00.05\00:48:01.02
Once you have the motivation
that's what get you going.
00:48:01.03\00:48:02.80
If don't have enough motivation
it is because your level of
00:48:02.83\00:48:05.92
pain isn't high enough.
00:48:05.96\00:48:07.10
The second one is to
interrupt the pattern.
00:48:07.14\00:48:08.83
When ever this comes up,
then you have to interrupt the
00:48:08.86\00:48:12.05
pattern, by that you can do
anything, but you have to do
00:48:12.08\00:48:14.68
something unusual, it can
be a prayer, it can be a joke,
00:48:14.72\00:48:17.47
he can be a statement, it
can be a laugh, it can be a deep
00:48:17.50\00:48:20.18
breath, but you have to do some-
thing where you actually break
00:48:20.22\00:48:22.71
this neural pathway as electri-
city is flowing thorough it.
00:48:22.74\00:48:25.20
They actually filmed
this in neuro science now.
00:48:25.24\00:48:27.21
As you interrupt the pattern
it's like you short-circuit
00:48:27.24\00:48:29.90
the neural pathway and in
sort of blows up and paralyzes
00:48:29.94\00:48:32.56
and you can't go down that path.
00:48:32.60\00:48:34.07
They found for the average
person, if you interrupt the
00:48:34.10\00:48:37.05
pattern 21 consistent
times it is gone for the rest of
00:48:37.08\00:48:39.65
your life, you completely
damaged and break the neural
00:48:39.69\00:48:42.06
pathway, even if there is a
half-million strands all bound
00:48:42.10\00:48:44.44
together, just 21 times
consistently interrupting
00:48:44.47\00:48:46.78
it you break it.
00:48:46.82\00:48:47.79
I don't care what you use
to break it, it doesn't matter.
00:48:47.82\00:48:50.15
A lot of Bible verses are
really, really good because when
00:48:50.18\00:48:52.48
that pattern comes up
just hit it with a Bible verse.
00:48:52.51\00:48:54.54
Like fear, God has not
given me the spirit of fear.
00:48:54.57\00:48:56.53
You can use jokes, you can
use prayers, and use a little
00:48:56.56\00:48:59.42
saying, sometimes just pausing
and taking two seconds for
00:48:59.45\00:49:02.27
a deep breath,
anything to break the pattern.
00:49:02.31\00:49:04.53
That is what is
really, really critical.
00:49:04.57\00:49:05.93
Once that pattern is
broken, you do a 21 times
00:49:05.97\00:49:08.63
consistently, you destroy
it then many people stop there
00:49:08.66\00:49:11.42
and I think this is where
one of the most important parts
00:49:11.46\00:49:14.18
take place in this
kind of a situation.
00:49:14.22\00:49:16.01
You also then have to go
on to build a new pathway,
00:49:16.05\00:49:19.89
a new neuro cable that will take
you down a new path of behavior
00:49:19.92\00:49:22.80
you just don't destroy the one,
you also have to build a new one
00:49:22.84\00:49:25.69
Okay, that is
where I have a problem.
00:49:25.72\00:49:27.96
I feel like I have started a
new cable and I am going down
00:49:27.99\00:49:32.07
this path and I get to this
point, I can see the end of it
00:49:32.11\00:49:36.16
but I can't get there.
I can't get past that gap.
00:49:36.19\00:49:39.37
My cables don't connect,
they are all separated right
00:49:39.40\00:49:42.55
there, and I can
do it again and again.
00:49:42.58\00:49:44.44
I'm going down another road,
my life is taken a different
00:49:44.48\00:49:47.16
path, my thoughts have taken
a different path and it just
00:49:47.19\00:49:49.83
can't seem to get to a
point - where you want to be
00:49:49.87\00:49:52.08
different, where you
want to live different.
00:49:52.11\00:49:53.66
- it's almost like a
self - destruct thing.
00:49:53.69\00:49:55.16
I get to a point where I know
I got to continue, but I can't.
00:49:55.20\00:49:58.45
You are dealing with
the behavior, and this
00:49:58.49\00:50:00.97
is the key issue.
00:50:01.00\00:50:02.13
Whenever you try to change
your behavior you will fail.
00:50:02.16\00:50:04.36
That is so critical, because
you are dealing with what is
00:50:04.40\00:50:06.56
obvious, not with
what the root is of it.
00:50:06.59\00:50:08.99
Sometimes you have to
go back and really look at
00:50:09.03\00:50:11.45
situations and say
alright, what am I really
00:50:11.48\00:50:13.87
dealing with here?
00:50:13.90\00:50:14.87
If I have this addiction,
the addiction is not my
00:50:14.88\00:50:16.52
problem, it's what's
behind this addiction.
00:50:16.56\00:50:18.68
It goes back to the pain
and pleasure principle for every
00:50:18.72\00:50:21.63
single time, and as long as
you are associating pleasure
00:50:21.67\00:50:24.67
to this behavior, or this
habit, or this addiction, what
00:50:24.71\00:50:27.23
ever it is in your life
in any way or shape or form,
00:50:27.27\00:50:29.50
it's going to be there and
you have to deal with that.
00:50:29.54\00:50:32.62
That is the first step
begin, pain, pain to the habit.
00:50:32.65\00:50:35.70
And pleasure to overcoming it.
00:50:35.74\00:50:37.33
That is what
creates the motivation.
00:50:37.36\00:50:39.08
Interrupting the pattern
is easy, but then the key is
00:50:39.11\00:50:41.89
this, once I have got
the old pattern broken,
00:50:41.92\00:50:44.66
I'm continually
building a new one.
00:50:44.70\00:50:46.58
Because when a new
cable is in my brain and I do
00:50:46.62\00:50:49.21
it over and over again, I rein-
force it over again, then soon
00:50:49.26\00:50:51.74
I've go this massive cable
in my brain to this new behavior
00:50:51.78\00:50:54.23
and I go down that
path without even thinking.
00:50:54.26\00:50:55.86
One thing that I think was
important in my own recovery is
00:50:55.90\00:50:58.92
that I thought that my recovery
was coming off of heroin,
00:50:58.95\00:51:02.23
coming off the streets,
when I realized finally 20 years
00:51:02.26\00:51:05.04
into my recovery, God said
you'd never learned to love
00:51:05.07\00:51:07.81
anybody or trust anybody.
00:51:07.85\00:51:09.13
So the real cable was
I was afraid. - exactly.
00:51:09.16\00:51:13.52
Then you had to build that
cable specifically because the
00:51:13.55\00:51:16.57
issue wasn't the
heroin, the issue was rejection.
00:51:16.61\00:51:18.90
- behavior. - exactly, can
we do with our behavior and
00:51:18.94\00:51:21.54
you try to change your behavior
you will fail every time.
00:51:21.58\00:51:24.15
But when you do with the
cause that is behind that
00:51:24.18\00:51:26.70
behavior, then it is easy.
00:51:26.73\00:51:27.99
This is what most people
have to figure out, is not hard
00:51:28.02\00:51:31.03
to do but as you are in your
recovery, as you are claiming
00:51:31.06\00:51:34.03
victory and you destroy
the old way of thinking.
00:51:34.07\00:51:36.66
The old emotional habits or
whatever it is, when that old
00:51:36.69\00:51:39.62
cable is destroyed, the
new one is critical, critical,
00:51:39.66\00:51:42.56
critical and it has to
be positive, it has to be
00:51:42.59\00:51:44.38
affirming, and it has to
be good, and has to be Godly,
00:51:44.42\00:51:46.00
and it has to be Biblical.
00:51:46.03\00:51:47.00
In my own life, when I got
mad I had to replace that with
00:51:47.03\00:51:51.04
a smile, and that
became the new cable.
00:51:51.07\00:51:52.48
Where there was lust, I had
to replace that with purity.
00:51:52.51\00:51:55.00
A desire to have a pure
and moral life, I had that
00:51:55.03\00:51:57.95
as a goal in my life, the cable
got built, and built, and built.
00:51:57.98\00:52:00.32
Same thing with anger,
anger was my biggest issue.
00:52:00.36\00:52:02.86
I had to interrupt that pattern
then I had to come up with
00:52:02.90\00:52:06.93
a new pattern, that is to speak
kindly to people, spend my life
00:52:06.96\00:52:09.19
up building other people because
more I build you up the more
00:52:09.22\00:52:11.41
it's going to reciprocate.
00:52:11.45\00:52:12.42
These are the new neural
pathways, and once they are
00:52:12.43\00:52:14.62
built it is easy. -
alright, now I do that.
00:52:14.66\00:52:17.24
I get up every morning and
make a choice, either I'm gonna
00:52:17.28\00:52:20.04
complain all day, and
worry all day, or in going to
00:52:20.07\00:52:22.47
get up and say, I like to
say praise God for another
00:52:22.51\00:52:25.27
beautiful day and I
think positive, I go positive.
00:52:25.31\00:52:28.04
But then all of a
sudden it goes awry.
00:52:28.08\00:52:30.32
I don't know if it's
because I'm trying to do it on
00:52:30.36\00:52:33.76
my own or I want to go
and do what God wants me to do
00:52:33.80\00:52:37.17
and trying to do it on
my own, my own knowledge
00:52:37.20\00:52:39.48
which is limited or what.
But it seems to do the same
00:52:39.51\00:52:42.22
thing, I seem to get to a
certain spot and I can't go
00:52:42.25\00:52:44.92
any further even though I know.
00:52:44.95\00:52:46.26
It's very interesting, and
I have to say this to you too
00:52:46.29\00:52:49.17
Larry, is sometimes for me
it was that I had to ask God
00:52:49.21\00:52:52.05
what were the real issues.
00:52:52.08\00:52:53.28
And when you say studies
for 21 days, I really learned
00:52:53.31\00:52:57.05
those two and saw some
studies that were 21 days.
00:52:57.08\00:52:59.08
It's like keep doing the
same thing, keeping interfering
00:52:59.11\00:53:02.06
with that, I am done and
sick and tired of being sick
00:53:02.09\00:53:05.00
and tired, I'm
done living like that.
00:53:05.04\00:53:06.53
God says, you know what?
Stay with Me and I promise you
00:53:06.56\00:53:09.44
those neural
pathways will be redeveloped.
00:53:09.47\00:53:12.40
I've got to say to you,
we ran out of time and I knew
00:53:12.43\00:53:15.21
that was going to happen
but I want to have you back
00:53:15.25\00:53:18.02
because I think you have
so much to give us and I love
00:53:18.06\00:53:20.79
having you here, thank
you for being on the show,
00:53:20.83\00:53:22.87
thank you for
teaching us this kind of stuff.
00:53:22.90\00:53:24.88
We are going to check out
right now and we will be right
00:53:24.91\00:53:28.06
back, stay tuned because I
want to tell you some stuff
00:53:28.10\00:53:31.21
to kind of wrap all of this up.
00:53:31.24\00:53:32.94
This is good stuff and anybody
in recovery for anything,
00:53:32.97\00:53:36.80
you need to kind of change
all stuff and let God just
00:53:36.84\00:53:40.63
pour joy and
happiness and life into you.
00:53:40.67\00:53:42.94
It is so cool, we
will be right back.
00:53:42.97\00:53:45.20
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00:53:49.79\00:53:52.92
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A complete first season of
Celebrating Life In Recover is
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now available on DVD and
can be ordered by calling 3ABN
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or online at 3ABN.org
hosted by Cheri Peters.
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This season follows
principles of the book
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'Steps to Christ'.
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See for yourself how
God changed the lives of the
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convicted and the accused
and victims of terrible crimes.
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You won't want to miss a moment
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of these powerful interviews.
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I love this show, I love a
couple things about it more
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than anything else is the
fact that God really wants us
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to have a knowledge of Him.
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He wants us to understand
who He is, what the Bible says,
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what are the promises,
all those kind of things.
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There is incredible
stuff in the word of God.
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You really need to open it
up and get in there, especially
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if you are dealing with any kind
of recovery issues, but He also
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says that when you to
know how your body works.
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What Leo was saying as
far as setting goals and not
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allowing negative things
to come in your head, about
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changing habits,
changing our neuro pathways
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and all those things.
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As an addict when I
learned that it was like Amen.
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I didn't even realize
that every single time I ate
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a Snicker's, a neural
pathway was developed.
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I'm thinking not that
Snickers is bad, but for me
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I was gaining weight, I
was turning for my addiction
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into eating disorders and
I had to learn all of that.
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So God says, learn as
much as you can about yourself.
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When I learned initially,
when I told you I learned the
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health message from a guy
that said it in a way that
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was not positive to me.
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I got diagnosed with hepatitis
A B and C and all of a sudden
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I thought wait a minute,
should I not learn about health?
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I ended up doing some good
stuff for my body, I started
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thinking clearer, I start
having more energy, I started
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really loving life and I
realized that the knowledge of
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God in recovery is
all of it, all of it.
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What we do, getting
outside and getting fresh air.
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Taking some breaths, unders-
standing what I think about.
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When I try to understand
what I think about, I'm twisted.
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I've said on another show
when I was in church and they
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would pass the offering
plate, it took me five years
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to not to want to steal all
that money because I thought
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there is a lot of
money in that offering plate.
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I need to have it. So
even been able to say when you
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see something for an addict,
for somebody in recovery,
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when I see something that I
like I don't have to take it.
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I actually can go buy
it because I have a job.
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Those things in us
have to be changed.
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There is no way to change
that overnight, it didn't happen
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overnight, but God says I
promise you I will be faithful
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and follow you all
the steps of the way.
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I will follow you out of porn
addiction, drug addiction, anger
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stuff, perfectionism, religious
addictions and don't fool
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yourself, those
can be pretty intense.
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I will follow you out of
that, but you have to trust Me.
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You have to give it to Me
and make some commitments to
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yourself to
actually do the right thing.
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And I'm thinking, God,
why do you love us so much?
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Why do You love us so much
that not only are You going
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to come in and teach us
how to live a life that we may
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not have ever lived, but
after I get it, You will fill
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me with laughter, with joy,
with energy, with the desire
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to go out and
change the world because
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I want to tell
every single addict.
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If you are out there
watching this, this is for you.
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God has a plan for your
life. He wants you healthy.
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He wants your mind
clearer. He wants your cables to
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connect and He just wants that.
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Everything about Him
wants that for you and He says,
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just trust Me, just raise
your hand and trust Me and I
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promise you I will start
bringing things into your life.
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If you need to, call Leo,
get in touch with me and get him
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out to your church to do
seminars because it's amazing.
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So I want to tell you, trust
God and get to know Him and
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until next time always
remember that God is crazy about
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you and so am I.
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I love the fact
that you joined us.
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Bye, see you next week.
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