Hi, Cliff Goldstein here, 00:00:21.14\00:00:22.84 welcome to the program Contending for the Faith. 00:00:22.87\00:00:26.44 This is part of a series 00:00:26.47\00:00:27.97 I'm doing entitled Faith in science, 00:00:28.00\00:00:30.88 in which we explore some of the issues 00:00:30.91\00:00:33.22 in science and in faith. 00:00:33.25\00:00:35.92 And this is important because we are in a day and age 00:00:35.95\00:00:38.83 where science has achieved a lot of renown. 00:00:38.86\00:00:42.34 So we want to look at science, what it does? 00:00:42.37\00:00:45.40 What it cannot do? What it tells us? 00:00:45.43\00:00:47.70 What it cannot tell us? 00:00:47.73\00:00:49.91 Because I really think that these are more difficult issues 00:00:49.94\00:00:53.98 than most people tend to realize. 00:00:54.01\00:00:57.82 What is science? 00:00:57.85\00:00:59.14 What are the limitations of science? 00:00:59.17\00:01:01.56 How does it work? 00:01:01.59\00:01:02.91 How do we know if a scientific theory is correct? 00:01:02.94\00:01:06.42 What are some of the misconceptions about science? 00:01:06.45\00:01:10.10 What kind of hope does science offer us? 00:01:10.13\00:01:13.33 Or is science something that can be even detrimental 00:01:13.36\00:01:16.99 to human beings? 00:01:17.02\00:01:18.60 These are just a few of the many questions 00:01:18.63\00:01:20.93 that I want to address in this series, 00:01:20.96\00:01:24.33 but especially I want to look at science in regard 00:01:24.36\00:01:28.19 to the question of religious faith. 00:01:28.22\00:01:31.07 How do faith in science interact? 00:01:31.10\00:01:34.62 Are they hostel to each other? 00:01:34.65\00:01:36.79 Can they be harmonized or as some say 00:01:36.82\00:01:40.36 do they do with-- deal with completely different thing? 00:01:40.39\00:01:44.26 All this and more I plan to explore in this series 00:01:44.29\00:01:48.10 as I said called Faith in science. 00:01:48.13\00:01:50.72 Because yes, there is a lot more faith in science 00:01:50.75\00:01:54.85 than people believe. 00:01:54.88\00:01:56.47 That is there is belief in science, 00:01:56.50\00:01:58.88 there's things and other words 00:01:58.91\00:02:00.51 that you believe in science but you cannot prove. 00:02:00.54\00:02:05.89 Science is at the core of human endeavor 00:02:05.92\00:02:09.63 and as such it comes with all the weaknesses 00:02:09.66\00:02:12.50 that humans bring to whatever they do 00:02:12.53\00:02:15.40 and one of the biggest weaknesses 00:02:15.43\00:02:17.48 is simply that we live with the fair amount of uncertainty. 00:02:17.51\00:02:22.78 I mean this is reality on everything that we do. 00:02:22.81\00:02:27.61 Someone once said 00:02:27.64\00:02:28.67 that nature doesn't give up her secrets easily 00:02:28.70\00:02:32.78 or in the different context, 00:02:32.81\00:02:35.25 but some what the same idea 00:02:35.28\00:02:37.84 Paul says "we see through a glass, darkly." 00:02:37.87\00:02:41.72 But whether we're dealing with the things of God 00:02:41.75\00:02:44.18 or dealing with the things of science 00:02:44.21\00:02:46.42 or dealing with the things of history 00:02:46.45\00:02:48.65 or the things of psychology, literature, 00:02:48.68\00:02:51.73 whatever we are dealing as human beings, 00:02:51.76\00:02:55.83 so we are dealing with them 00:02:55.86\00:02:57.24 with the certain amount of uncertainty. 00:02:57.27\00:03:00.99 We are dealing with things 00:03:01.02\00:03:02.26 that we just don't fully understand 00:03:02.29\00:03:04.89 or know or really could even prove. 00:03:04.92\00:03:08.16 Even things that we think we know, the most about 00:03:08.19\00:03:11.59 that were the certain about come with aspects 00:03:11.62\00:03:15.44 that we don't understand that leave black holes there, 00:03:15.47\00:03:20.11 even some of the simplest things. 00:03:20.14\00:03:21.97 I want you to listen to this quote from a book 00:03:22.00\00:03:24.59 called the Beginning of Infinity, listen to this 00:03:24.62\00:03:29.21 "If you fill a kettle with water and switch it on, 00:03:29.24\00:03:34.18 all the super computers on Earth working 00:03:34.21\00:03:37.52 for the age of the universe could not solve the equations 00:03:37.55\00:03:41.82 that predicts what all those water molecules will do 00:03:41.85\00:03:46.69 even if we could somehow determine their initial state 00:03:46.72\00:03:50.83 and that of the outside influences on them, 00:03:50.86\00:03:56.53 which is itself an intractable task." 00:03:56.56\00:04:01.38 Now think about that, we are not talking about here 00:04:01.41\00:04:04.92 what goes on in the inner recesses of the human mind 00:04:04.95\00:04:09.23 which is a total mystery to us 00:04:09.26\00:04:11.56 or what goes on in the belly of distant stars or of the sun. 00:04:11.59\00:04:15.90 I mean man of life, all that's very complicated. 00:04:15.93\00:04:18.72 We are talking here about a pot of water boiling 00:04:18.75\00:04:23.63 and what does he say, all the super computers 00:04:23.66\00:04:28.17 in the world working from the age of the universe, 00:04:28.20\00:04:32.43 couldn't tell us what those water molecules will do. 00:04:32.46\00:04:37.02 Wow, that's kind a heavy. 00:04:37.05\00:04:39.53 Now my point is simple, 00:04:39.56\00:04:42.84 science like everything else in life must 00:04:42.87\00:04:46.50 to a certain degree be taken on faith 00:04:46.53\00:04:49.67 because there are vast limitations 00:04:49.70\00:04:52.11 on what we has humans know or even can know. 00:04:52.14\00:04:56.51 In fact there is a-- in quantum physics 00:04:56.54\00:05:00.35 there is a thing called the uncertainty principle 00:05:00.38\00:05:03.60 and what it states is at the most basic level of nature, 00:05:03.63\00:05:07.95 it's impossible to know for certain-- 00:05:07.98\00:05:10.70 to know certain things about a particle, 00:05:10.73\00:05:13.34 it's not that our tools are limited or that by the-- 00:05:13.37\00:05:16.43 or that we don't have access to it? 00:05:16.46\00:05:18.45 No, it's by the very nature of the particles themselves 00:05:18.48\00:05:23.50 certain things about them just cannot be known. 00:05:23.53\00:05:28.17 If we know one thing about a particle, 00:05:28.20\00:05:30.60 such as its position, it's impossible for us 00:05:30.63\00:05:33.82 to know its velocity or if we know its velocity, 00:05:33.85\00:05:37.81 it's impossible for us to know its position. 00:05:37.84\00:05:41.97 There is at the most fundamental level, 00:05:42.00\00:05:44.47 the bottom right level, certain, 00:05:44.50\00:05:47.05 uncertainty built right in to nature itself. 00:05:47.08\00:05:52.30 At least at the far as level we can get to at presence. 00:05:52.33\00:05:56.71 But even if we get away from quantum physics, 00:05:56.74\00:05:59.75 even if we get in to the realm of everyday life, 00:05:59.78\00:06:03.31 there is a great deal we have to take on faith. 00:06:03.34\00:06:06.90 Hence the title of the series Faith in Science. 00:06:06.93\00:06:12.29 Yes, because science is very much a faith venture, 00:06:12.32\00:06:16.78 as is most everything we as humans do. 00:06:16.81\00:06:21.53 Anyway this title is as this talk is called the Rainbow. 00:06:21.56\00:06:28.36 And I can remember one morning, 00:06:28.39\00:06:30.12 I was driving to work and I saw this beautiful, 00:06:30.15\00:06:35.17 just this beautiful rainbow that just divided the sky, 00:06:35.20\00:06:39.84 it was a giant McDonalds arch, 00:06:39.87\00:06:42.72 but only instead of that grows McDonalds yellow, 00:06:42.75\00:06:46.29 it were the wonderful colors of the rainbow. 00:06:46.32\00:06:49.99 You know, and as I saw it I marveled, 00:06:50.02\00:06:53.34 I marveled that the beauty at the covering across the sky 00:06:53.37\00:06:57.19 it was beautiful and at the same time 00:06:57.22\00:07:01.04 I thought of the promise that God made to Noah, 00:07:01.07\00:07:04.98 the one after the flood, the promise 00:07:05.01\00:07:08.48 that He would never destroy the earth by a flood again 00:07:08.51\00:07:12.87 and the rainbow being the symbol of that promise 00:07:12.90\00:07:18.78 and He said here He says 00:07:18.81\00:07:19.87 "And I will remember my covenant, 00:07:19.90\00:07:21.74 which is between me and you 00:07:21.77\00:07:23.90 and every living creature of all flesh. 00:07:23.93\00:07:27.09 And the waters shall no more be a flood to destroy all flesh." 00:07:27.12\00:07:32.90 Genesis 9:15. 00:07:32.93\00:07:36.69 And when I saw that rainbow 00:07:36.72\00:07:39.59 I thought about the covenant promise, bariti, my promise. 00:07:39.62\00:07:45.61 And I smiled because really in a sense me 00:07:45.64\00:07:48.59 just simply being there, being alive to see 00:07:48.62\00:07:51.85 that rainbow in the sky 00:07:51.88\00:07:53.98 and that I or previous generations hadn't been 00:07:54.01\00:07:56.69 wiped out with a world wide flood, 00:07:56.72\00:08:00.26 mabul the Hebrew word, helped to affirm to me 00:08:00.29\00:08:04.81 that the truth of that covenant promise. 00:08:04.84\00:08:09.76 Now I realized to that many people, 00:08:09.79\00:08:12.77 even profess Christians those who claim 00:08:12.80\00:08:15.90 to believe in the Bible would have smiled at my reaction. 00:08:15.93\00:08:20.93 They might have a little perplexed at my naivete, 00:08:20.96\00:08:25.48 I mean I could just him oh, come on Cliff, 00:08:25.51\00:08:28.78 you can't be that naive, can you? 00:08:28.81\00:08:31.76 The rainbow, a sign of God's covenant promise 00:08:31.79\00:08:35.97 not to destroyable world with the flood 00:08:36.00\00:08:38.40 what are you free? 00:08:38.43\00:08:40.07 Get real. 00:08:40.10\00:08:41.22 No one takes that seriously anymore. 00:08:41.25\00:08:43.96 There is no scientific evidence to back that up. 00:08:43.99\00:08:48.18 Well, you know, there is all sorts of problems 00:08:48.21\00:08:52.87 hear with that, with that thinking. 00:08:52.90\00:08:56.32 If the flood were only local 00:08:56.35\00:08:58.61 but some there was the flood was just a local flood. 00:08:58.64\00:09:01.91 So if the flood were only local then every rainbow 00:09:01.94\00:09:05.43 instead of a sign of God's covenant promise to us, 00:09:05.46\00:09:09.42 actually becomes a mockery of that promise. 00:09:09.45\00:09:13.27 You know, not to promise-- not to do again 00:09:13.30\00:09:15.51 what He did in Genesis which was destroy 00:09:15.54\00:09:17.85 the whole world with the flood. 00:09:17.88\00:09:20.33 Okay, not some corner of Mesopotamia. 00:09:20.36\00:09:23.74 If the flood were only local then God lied to us 00:09:23.77\00:09:27.43 because there been a lot of local floods 00:09:27.46\00:09:29.79 and that every one of those rainbows 00:09:29.82\00:09:31.92 in the sky is a-- is a sign of God mocking us. 00:09:31.95\00:09:35.51 There have been all sorts of floods, 00:09:35.54\00:09:37.37 okay, so that's the point there. 00:09:37.40\00:09:39.38 If it was just a local flood the rainbow becomes a mockery. 00:09:39.41\00:09:46.09 But also I sometimes hear profess Christians say, 00:09:46.12\00:09:51.33 but there is no scientific evidence for a flood, 00:09:51.36\00:09:55.91 not a worldwide flood. 00:09:55.94\00:09:57.58 Now that's rich, it really is. 00:09:57.61\00:09:59.93 I wonder what would evidence 00:09:59.96\00:10:02.36 for a worldwide flood look like. 00:10:02.39\00:10:05.04 The Genesis flood was a one time event, a unique event. 00:10:05.07\00:10:09.03 Okay, how then a science boost dogmatically tells us 00:10:09.06\00:10:13.29 that there is no scientific evidence for something 00:10:13.32\00:10:16.28 they cannot examine and replicate. 00:10:16.31\00:10:18.78 What they could do is they could speculate about 00:10:18.81\00:10:21.10 what they might thing it would be like. 00:10:21.13\00:10:23.83 And that's fine, 00:10:23.86\00:10:25.12 but that's all it is speculation, 00:10:25.15\00:10:27.42 guess work about something they know nothing about. 00:10:27.45\00:10:31.74 What a definitely is not as hardcore 00:10:31.77\00:10:33.89 scientific proof of anything. 00:10:33.92\00:10:37.09 Science has no more disproven the worldwide flood 00:10:37.12\00:10:40.45 than it has disproven the resurrection of Jesus. 00:10:40.48\00:10:45.37 And yet as so often is the case, 00:10:45.40\00:10:48.96 science comes out and says something 00:10:48.99\00:10:51.38 as highly as speculative 00:10:51.41\00:10:53.56 as there is no scientific evidence for a worldwide flood 00:10:53.59\00:10:57.53 and the Christians and so many of them do 00:10:57.56\00:10:59.87 what they usually do. 00:10:59.90\00:11:01.37 They just have to bow down before. 00:11:01.40\00:11:04.24 Well, science says it, 00:11:04.27\00:11:06.21 and we can't be a bunch of Bible thumping hicks, 00:11:06.24\00:11:09.23 we have to believe what science says. 00:11:09.26\00:11:12.28 That seems to be the paradigm, but I don't want to go there, 00:11:12.31\00:11:15.82 that's not where my talk is going. 00:11:15.85\00:11:18.49 I want to go back to the rainbow, 00:11:18.52\00:11:21.09 I want to got to the back-- to back to the sign of bariti, 00:11:21.12\00:11:26.08 My covenant as God's said, the covenant 00:11:26.11\00:11:29.76 that He would not destroy the world again by a flood. 00:11:29.79\00:11:34.92 Now many people can no longer believe that 00:11:34.95\00:11:38.56 because well, they say, science has shown us, 00:11:38.59\00:11:42.21 what's wrong with you? 00:11:42.24\00:11:43.27 Science has shown what a rainbow really is. 00:11:43.30\00:11:46.81 Instead of the ancient midst about being a snake God 00:11:46.84\00:11:50.91 or a path between heaven and earth 00:11:50.94\00:11:53.29 that the God's traverse to go back and forth 00:11:53.32\00:11:56.38 or about it being the belt of tear the sun God 00:11:56.41\00:12:00.06 or whatever they-- people believed, 00:12:00.09\00:12:02.51 you know, we now thanks to science have 00:12:02.54\00:12:05.24 a decent understanding of what a rainbow is. 00:12:05.27\00:12:08.49 At least the basic physical interactions that create it. 00:12:08.52\00:12:13.29 We know that a rainbow occurs 00:12:13.32\00:12:16.52 when sunlight is both reflected, refracted, 00:12:16.55\00:12:20.04 refracted and reflected in drops of water, 00:12:20.07\00:12:23.78 that disperse the light at various angles. 00:12:23.81\00:12:26.45 Sometimes I think its somewhere between 40 and 42 percent. 00:12:26.48\00:12:30.24 Light enters a rain drop at one point is reflected 00:12:30.27\00:12:33.76 to the back of that drop at another, 00:12:33.79\00:12:36.21 okay, and then you know, creating the colors 00:12:36.24\00:12:38.77 that we see and even a host of colors that we don't. 00:12:38.80\00:12:42.22 Each tiny droplet of water or mist 00:12:42.25\00:12:45.10 acts as like a kind of prism, which will-- 00:12:45.13\00:12:47.90 which disperses the light into the various colors. 00:12:47.93\00:12:51.66 Some of the-- this light reflects back on the droplet, 00:12:51.69\00:12:54.55 and is reflected a second time 00:12:54.58\00:12:57.23 and it just spreads out drops at different angles 00:12:57.26\00:13:00.57 and distinctively different colors to the eye. 00:13:00.60\00:13:05.11 It involves things like refraction 00:13:05.14\00:13:07.82 and turn over reflection and dispersion. 00:13:07.85\00:13:10.77 All of which at one level it's fairly well understood. 00:13:10.80\00:13:14.64 Again we think of each this 00:13:14.67\00:13:16.52 as millions of drops as tiny prisms, 00:13:16.55\00:13:20.01 such as we played at when we were kids. 00:13:20.04\00:13:23.16 This is now how we understand 00:13:23.19\00:13:27.38 to least to some degree has rainbows are formed. 00:13:27.41\00:13:31.71 Therefore-- therefore the Bible story about the rainbow 00:13:31.74\00:13:36.50 being a sign of God's covenant is proven false. 00:13:36.53\00:13:41.17 Right or wrong? 00:13:41.20\00:13:43.97 Well, I don't know about you, 00:13:44.00\00:13:45.29 but don't you see something kind of wrong 00:13:45.32\00:13:48.35 with that kind of thinking? 00:13:48.38\00:13:50.12 I mean big time wrong. 00:13:50.15\00:13:53.37 It's a keen to saying something like this. 00:13:53.40\00:13:57.65 Let's try to put this in little formal, 00:13:57.68\00:14:00.03 more formal logic. 00:14:00.06\00:14:01.90 When science explains something, 00:14:01.93\00:14:04.22 it means that God had nothing to do with it. 00:14:04.25\00:14:07.44 That's point number one. 00:14:07.47\00:14:09.40 Point number two, Science explains rainbows. 00:14:09.43\00:14:12.80 Therefore, point number three, 00:14:12.83\00:14:15.21 God had nothing to do with it. 00:14:15.24\00:14:18.48 This is what formulaic calls a valid argument, 00:14:18.51\00:14:22.56 but not a sound one. 00:14:22.59\00:14:24.52 The conclusion might logically follow from the promise, 00:14:24.55\00:14:28.24 but the promise is wrong 00:14:28.27\00:14:30.01 and so the conclusion is wrong as well. 00:14:30.04\00:14:33.99 I mean, where did we get this idea? 00:14:34.02\00:14:37.99 Very commonly held that once we have 00:14:38.02\00:14:41.24 a scientific explanation for something, 00:14:41.27\00:14:45.40 and please don't get me started on what this notion 00:14:45.43\00:14:48.10 of what a scientific explanation is, 00:14:48.13\00:14:51.34 that can be quite controversial and we'll be looking at that. 00:14:51.37\00:14:55.03 But where did we get this idea 00:14:55.06\00:14:56.87 that once science helps us understand the mechanisms, 00:14:56.90\00:15:02.12 the physical mechanisms of some phenomena 00:15:02.15\00:15:05.27 then suddenly, automatically, God drops out of the picture. 00:15:05.30\00:15:09.67 Now we know how it works physically, therefore, 00:15:09.70\00:15:12.35 get rid of your Creator, get rid of your God. 00:15:12.38\00:15:15.75 Let me read you a quote from someone 00:15:15.78\00:15:17.76 who is always been one of my favorite authors. 00:15:17.79\00:15:20.72 He the late Christopher Hitchens. 00:15:20.75\00:15:23.10 He is one of the so called New Atheist, 00:15:23.13\00:15:25.70 so there is really nothing new about 00:15:25.73\00:15:27.35 their writings and ratings. 00:15:27.38\00:15:28.96 And I always like Christopher Hitchens, 00:15:28.99\00:15:30.85 right even after he died 00:15:30.88\00:15:32.11 I put his picture on iPad for a week or two. 00:15:32.14\00:15:35.35 But you know, he wrote this book called "God Is Not Great, 00:15:35.38\00:15:38.59 How Religion Poisons Everything" 00:15:38.62\00:15:40.41 and I was kind of it's not one of his better literary moments, 00:15:40.44\00:15:43.65 and I was sorry to see Hitch go down this path. 00:15:43.68\00:15:46.85 But anyway in it he wrote this, 00:15:46.88\00:15:52.05 he wrote "Religion has run out of its justifications. 00:15:52.08\00:15:57.52 Thanks to the telescope and the microscope, 00:15:57.55\00:16:01.41 it no longer offers 00:16:01.44\00:16:03.23 and explanation of anything important." 00:16:03.26\00:16:06.91 And I thought what in the world 00:16:06.94\00:16:08.85 was poor Hitch talking about here. 00:16:08.88\00:16:11.78 What has the telescope shown us 00:16:11.81\00:16:14.64 that nullifies the existence of God? 00:16:14.67\00:16:17.58 What has the microscope shown us 00:16:17.61\00:16:20.20 that makes the idea of God irrelevant? 00:16:20.23\00:16:24.57 In fact, what has science anywhere ever proven 00:16:24.60\00:16:28.64 and I think that's a very difficult word. 00:16:28.67\00:16:31.34 What has science ever proven 00:16:31.37\00:16:33.74 that negates the existence of God? 00:16:33.77\00:16:36.64 Well, people sometimes think, oh, what about Galileo? 00:16:36.67\00:16:39.72 When the Galileo trial with the church and all that? 00:16:39.75\00:16:43.83 Look what happened there 00:16:43.86\00:16:45.52 and how science disproved teachings of the Bible and God. 00:16:45.55\00:16:49.62 Well, if you ever study the story of-- 00:16:49.65\00:16:52.41 it's really something, 00:16:52.44\00:16:53.66 there is so much this information about that, 00:16:53.69\00:16:56.72 that whole Galileo thing. 00:16:56.75\00:16:58.70 You know, Galileo, there is the irony, 00:16:58.73\00:17:01.52 Galileo was accused of heresy for teaching things supposedly 00:17:01.55\00:17:08.68 that had nothing to do with the Bible. 00:17:08.71\00:17:11.06 They weren't even in the Bible, 00:17:11.09\00:17:12.30 he was surpassingly teaching things against Bible, 00:17:12.33\00:17:14.82 yet they weren't against Bible, 00:17:14.85\00:17:16.23 they weren't-- the Bible never talked about these things. 00:17:16.26\00:17:18.96 Where does the Bible say that the earth sits 00:17:18.99\00:17:21.66 at the center of the universe 00:17:21.69\00:17:23.79 and that the planets and stars all are orbit around it? 00:17:23.82\00:17:27.22 Where does the Bible say that? 00:17:27.25\00:17:28.97 These are even taken directly 00:17:29.00\00:17:31.21 or inferred from the teachings of Aristotle, 00:17:31.24\00:17:34.67 which the church had co-opted 00:17:34.70\00:17:37.60 and federally it becomes teachings of the Bible, okay. 00:17:37.63\00:17:41.94 They weren't teachings of the Bible, 00:17:41.97\00:17:43.34 this Galileo was convicted of heresy, 00:17:43.37\00:17:46.59 not heresy to Paul, not heresy to Moses, 00:17:46.62\00:17:49.98 not heresy to Jesus, 00:17:50.01\00:17:51.96 but to the prevailing scientific theory of the time. 00:17:51.99\00:17:57.36 That of Aristotle a pagan Greek 00:17:57.39\00:17:59.98 who had been dead for 2,000 years by then. 00:18:00.01\00:18:03.58 Anyway that again that's a whole other talk. 00:18:03.61\00:18:06.96 My point for now though is this, 00:18:06.99\00:18:10.27 where does we get the idea that the minute someone 00:18:10.30\00:18:14.71 has a scientific explanation again a very loaded word 00:18:14.74\00:18:20.44 that the minute they have that whatever they have 00:18:20.47\00:18:22.87 that the divine is automatically nullified 00:18:22.90\00:18:27.14 and or pushed out. 00:18:27.17\00:18:29.95 How does the fact that we now fairly 00:18:29.98\00:18:32.87 well, you know, understand the physics involved 00:18:32.90\00:18:36.53 in the making of a rainbow? 00:18:36.56\00:18:38.20 How does that it anyway 00:18:38.23\00:18:39.47 we refute or nullify what the Bible said 00:18:39.50\00:18:42.67 about the rainbow being a sign of God's covenant with humanity 00:18:42.70\00:18:47.86 that He won't destroy the world again by water. 00:18:47.89\00:18:51.64 Now, now if the text had said, when God said, 00:18:51.67\00:18:57.19 I would create this covenant sign 00:18:57.22\00:18:59.84 through weaving together angel feathers 00:18:59.87\00:19:03.13 and that mixture of angel's feathers 00:19:03.16\00:19:05.84 would cause this colorful rainbow in the sky, okay. 00:19:05.87\00:19:10.18 Now scripture said that then you know, 00:19:10.21\00:19:12.84 I think we might have a problem. 00:19:12.87\00:19:15.78 Okay, but I don't-- when I read the Genesis account 00:19:15.81\00:19:19.81 and I read in Hebrew over and over, 00:19:19.84\00:19:22.77 it doesn't say anything like that in all-- at all. 00:19:22.80\00:19:27.50 No does the Bible record, when it first created, 00:19:27.53\00:19:31.84 you know, say that when put the rainbow in the sky 00:19:31.87\00:19:34.88 did it specifically say that 00:19:34.91\00:19:36.53 it's not gonna be created out of water droplets, 00:19:36.56\00:19:39.68 reflect-- light reflecting of a water droplets in the sky 00:19:39.71\00:19:44.06 and acting like prism. 00:19:44.09\00:19:45.69 Did the text ever say that that won't be what is? 00:19:45.72\00:19:48.71 No, of course not, I'm being rhetorical. 00:19:48.74\00:19:51.99 This again the whole idea 00:19:52.02\00:19:55.22 that well, now that we know how the rainbow is made, 00:19:55.25\00:19:58.91 it proves that God had nothing to do with it. 00:19:58.94\00:20:03.61 That is such a false conclusion. 00:20:03.64\00:20:07.27 It's an assumption not wanted by the facts. 00:20:07.30\00:20:11.79 The promises do not lead to the conclusion 00:20:11.82\00:20:15.51 because the promise that one something 00:20:15.54\00:20:17.76 is understood scientifically means 00:20:17.79\00:20:21.03 that God must automatically have nothing to do with it, 00:20:21.06\00:20:24.67 He must be removed from the picture is not proven. 00:20:24.70\00:20:28.96 Where does that come from? 00:20:28.99\00:20:30.54 It certainly not a scientific statement, 00:20:30.57\00:20:34.05 it's a philosophical statement macerating as a scientific one. 00:20:34.08\00:20:41.88 The British poet John Keats, fear that 00:20:41.91\00:20:47.33 science would one day "unweave a rainbow." 00:20:47.36\00:20:54.11 But you know, even if we could parse, 00:20:54.14\00:20:57.90 measure, and predict and quantify everything 00:20:57.93\00:21:02.06 about a rainbow down to the inners of each photon 00:21:02.09\00:21:05.70 and to the underbelly of every quark 00:21:05.73\00:21:08.54 well, would that prove other than that 00:21:08.57\00:21:10.09 we better understand the natural laws 00:21:10.12\00:21:12.76 that God use to create the sign of His committed promise. 00:21:12.79\00:21:17.99 Science no more removes God from the equation 00:21:18.02\00:21:21.97 then the action of hormones in the limbic system 00:21:22.00\00:21:26.23 reduces human love into something 00:21:26.26\00:21:29.11 it came to the-- to the liver secreting bile. 00:21:29.14\00:21:33.37 Science might one day be able to explain everything about 00:21:33.40\00:21:36.47 how rainbows are made even up the 25 digits 00:21:36.50\00:21:40.06 to the right of the decimal point, 00:21:40.09\00:21:42.75 but it could never explain why. 00:21:42.78\00:21:47.83 And you see this gets into a whole other area 00:21:47.86\00:21:52.17 in regards to the question of faith in science, 00:21:52.20\00:21:55.67 especially has it relate as science relates to faith. 00:21:55.70\00:21:59.73 And that is the question of exactly 00:21:59.76\00:22:02.08 what does science do anyway? 00:22:02.11\00:22:05.08 Does science really explain why anything happens? 00:22:05.11\00:22:09.60 I mean the real-- does it give us the real why 00:22:09.63\00:22:13.51 or does it just explain how certain mechanisms 00:22:13.54\00:22:16.65 appeared to work. 00:22:16.68\00:22:18.26 See there's a big difference here 00:22:18.29\00:22:20.11 and it something that philosophers of science 00:22:20.14\00:22:23.06 have been debating for centuries now 00:22:23.09\00:22:27.10 or for a long time now. 00:22:27.13\00:22:30.17 Let's go back to the rainbow. 00:22:30.20\00:22:35.01 Why does the rainbow appear in the sky? 00:22:35.04\00:22:37.74 Why? 00:22:37.77\00:22:39.46 Well, because of the angle of the sunlight hits 00:22:39.49\00:22:42.54 the water droplets, right? 00:22:42.57\00:22:44.76 Okay, but why when the sunlight's hit 00:22:44.79\00:22:47.81 the water droplets at this angle 00:22:47.84\00:22:50.09 does the rainbow appears? 00:22:50.12\00:22:52.31 Well, it has to do with the specific way 00:22:52.34\00:22:54.60 that light is made and water is made. 00:22:54.63\00:22:57.09 Okay, I don't have a problem with that. 00:22:57.12\00:22:59.75 But why is a light made in such a way 00:22:59.78\00:23:02.04 that it interacts with water droplets 00:23:02.07\00:23:04.38 at a certain angle you get the rainbow? 00:23:04.41\00:23:08.52 Well, it has to do with how light-- light wave's act, 00:23:08.55\00:23:13.83 okay, but then why do light waves 00:23:13.86\00:23:16.74 when interacting this or certain angel 00:23:16.77\00:23:20.05 create the rainbow? 00:23:20.08\00:23:21.60 Well, it's because light waves 00:23:21.63\00:23:23.31 just act that way they just do. 00:23:23.34\00:23:27.26 They just do? 00:23:27.29\00:23:29.40 What kind of explanation is that? 00:23:29.43\00:23:32.21 But you know, it's typical in many ways 00:23:32.24\00:23:35.74 of all scientific explanations. 00:23:35.77\00:23:38.81 At some point your why comes to a dead end, 00:23:38.84\00:23:45.71 and science can't go further. 00:23:45.74\00:23:48.89 The why has to stop 00:23:48.92\00:23:50.24 because you get to the very bottom, 00:23:50.27\00:23:52.36 at least according to the rule 00:23:52.39\00:23:53.94 that scientists have made for themselves about 00:23:53.97\00:23:57.72 what science supposedly can and cannot do entail. 00:23:57.75\00:24:02.92 But again why? 00:24:02.95\00:24:05.21 Where is the why answer to the rainbow? 00:24:05.24\00:24:07.80 We have a lot of how's and yes, it's fascinating to think 00:24:07.83\00:24:11.11 that water and light can mix in such a way 00:24:11.14\00:24:13.91 and create such a beautiful phenomena 00:24:13.94\00:24:16.43 as the rainbow really is, 00:24:16.46\00:24:18.78 but the simply say that the reason it doesn't us 00:24:18.81\00:24:21.17 because well, you know, take it to any the levels 00:24:21.20\00:24:24.22 we looked at even the bottom level 00:24:24.25\00:24:26.98 you still don't have affirm why do you? 00:24:27.01\00:24:32.29 To say that the nature of light it weighs is to do that 00:24:32.32\00:24:35.55 in a sense of just going all the way back to Aristotle, 00:24:35.58\00:24:39.19 who once said something that the reasons 00:24:39.22\00:24:41.03 watch fall to the earth is that rocks love the earth, 00:24:41.06\00:24:45.17 that's why rocks fall to the earth. 00:24:45.20\00:24:48.02 Well, what isn't why-- 00:24:48.05\00:24:49.39 what is the nature of light waves to do that? 00:24:49.42\00:24:52.25 Even if we got down to the level 00:24:52.28\00:24:53.78 of the nature of photons themselves, 00:24:53.81\00:24:56.42 it would still be have to be really more 00:24:56.45\00:24:58.88 only a description than an explanation. 00:24:58.91\00:25:02.50 And logically there is no way out of this trap. 00:25:02.53\00:25:07.52 Science, it is now understood 00:25:07.55\00:25:11.13 can take you only so far than the explanation stop 00:25:11.16\00:25:16.67 without you ever getting a full why. 00:25:16.70\00:25:22.25 So I have an explanation, I think I have a why 00:25:22.28\00:25:27.69 that science can't give you. 00:25:27.72\00:25:30.61 Why then do rainbows appear in the sky? 00:25:30.64\00:25:37.19 Because God created our world in a such a way 00:25:37.22\00:25:42.86 that when sunlight and mist 00:25:42.89\00:25:44.96 are in right relationship to each other, 00:25:44.99\00:25:47.92 the mist breaks up the light by refracting it 00:25:47.95\00:25:50.98 and reflecting it at different angels 00:25:51.01\00:25:53.80 that create this electromagnetic waves 00:25:53.83\00:25:57.01 which when reaching our eyes laminate 00:25:57.04\00:26:00.37 the image of rainbows in our head. 00:26:00.40\00:26:03.65 And He did it the why that science 00:26:03.68\00:26:07.45 could never explain to remind us 00:26:07.48\00:26:11.61 of His covenant promise that never again 00:26:11.64\00:26:15.03 would God destroy the world by water, okay. 00:26:15.06\00:26:20.70 Now one could justly argue and I think they would be fair 00:26:20.73\00:26:26.30 that this is not purely a scientific answer, 00:26:26.33\00:26:29.96 and hey, I agree, 00:26:29.99\00:26:31.87 it's not purely a scientific answer, okay. 00:26:31.90\00:26:36.27 And that's because it takes us further 00:26:36.30\00:26:39.74 then where science can't take us. 00:26:39.77\00:26:43.10 Science can as we saw explain at least to a certain level 00:26:43.13\00:26:49.70 the how's, the how's, how this, how that, 00:26:49.73\00:26:53.31 but it never really gets to the why. 00:26:53.34\00:26:58.61 It's not even close. 00:26:58.64\00:27:01.91 And considering the nature of how it is practiced 00:27:01.94\00:27:05.69 science never will get close to it, 00:27:05.72\00:27:09.98 at least as it practice now. 00:27:10.01\00:27:12.87 Yeah, there is no question, there is no question 00:27:12.90\00:27:18.17 that rainbow I saw that morning, 00:27:18.20\00:27:21.61 that rainbow that was just beautiful, 00:27:21.64\00:27:24.18 glorious rainbow and indeed reminded me 00:27:24.21\00:27:29.71 of what God had said about bariti, 00:27:29.74\00:27:33.77 My covenant that's His covenant, 00:27:33.80\00:27:37.03 His covenant with the world 00:27:37.06\00:27:39.07 never to destroy the world again with a flood. 00:27:39.10\00:27:43.60 And yes, here I was evidence to some-- 00:27:43.63\00:27:49.89 here I was-- I was seeing evidence to some degree 00:27:49.92\00:27:54.56 that He had kept His word. 00:27:54.59\00:27:58.57 And as I looked at it, I thought about 00:27:58.60\00:28:01.37 all that science had taught us 00:28:01.40\00:28:03.94 about how the rainbow was formed, okay. 00:28:03.97\00:28:07.63 And that's fine, but nothing in science, 00:28:07.66\00:28:11.28 nothing by any stretch of the imagination 00:28:11.31\00:28:14.42 showed the reality of how it came, the one who, 00:28:14.45\00:28:18.53 the only true why of how the rainbow was created 00:28:18.56\00:28:22.49 and that was God. 00:28:22.52\00:28:24.29