The Bible says that
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those who call upon the
name of the Lord shall be saved.
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But what exactly is
the real name of the Lord?
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Join us today on
"Back to Our Roots"
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and you will find out.
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Hello, and welcome once
again to Back to our Roots.
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I am your host,
Pastor Alex Schlusser,
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and my co-host-- Rachel Hyman.
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And we are once
again so happy that
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you have decided to
carve out a little bit of time
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and join us today.
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Today on our program,
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we are talking
about the name of God.
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Big controversy.
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Now, you know that may seem like
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such a simple
straightforward thing.
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Well, what's God's name?
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God. Yeah.
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But there's way more to it,
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and we're gonna
explore that today.
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You know as you said Rachel,
there is a lot of controversy.
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Have you run into any of that?
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Yeah, definitely I mean
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I know some people
who would say that,
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if you don't know the
exact correct name of God,
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then your salvation
is literally at risk,
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because you are not
calling Him by His right name.
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Yeah, there are a lot of people
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that actually get very
militant about it. Yeah.
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Which is really
ashamed as we are gonna see.
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So how do we begin the
process of even figuring out
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what God wants us to
call Him? Good question.
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You know, I know
that for a long time
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I felt very
comfortable just saying, Abba.
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Yeah, dad, daddy.
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Abba is the Hebrew
word for daddy, right?
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Because I think ultimately
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that's who God
should be to us. Totally.
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Or Father, Abba, Daddy.
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But there's a lot more to it
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as in the scripture
that you brought out.
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"Those who call upon the name
of the Lord shall be saved."
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The first time I ever
saw that scripture I went,
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okay, so what
exactly is the name
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that we're
supposed to call upon?
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So at this point I want to get
deep into our discussion today
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because we're gonna be
talking about a lot of Hebrew
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and tearing things apart today
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so, we're gonna
invite our friend,
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our resident scholar,
Dr. Alexander Bolotnikov.
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We need you, Sasha. Sasha, yes.
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I'm glad to be with
you, Alex and Rachel.
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Yes, Sasha, how
are you doing today?
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You're looking bright. Yes.
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Nice bright color today.
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Sasha, we're talking
about the name of God
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and you and I have had
lengthy discussions about this.
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How in some
circles within Christianity
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this has become even a point
of division within congregations
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which is really
crazy 'cause that must
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completely
grieve the heart of God
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that people are breaking
up and arguing over His name.
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So, you know, I
guess the big question is,
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you know how in fact
are we to address Him.
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And I'd like for
you first to explore
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and let's talk about
the idea of translation
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and then the
proper names because,
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you know, we know
that God reveals Himself,
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the scriptures reveal Him
in a lot of different names,
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Lord our righteousness
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and so on, all
these different things
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the Lord that heals,
and the Lord our banner
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and all of these names
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really reveal
aspects of His character.
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But they don't speak
directly to-- His exact name.
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Right! What are we
supposed to call Him?
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Well, it's interesting
that we have a good example
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of how are we
supposed to address God.
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And it's in the New Testament
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in the Sermon on the Mountain,
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Lord's Prayer,
Jesus says, 'Our father,
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who is in heaven'
and you know I have,
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I'm asking these questions
to people who have children,
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you know and I say,
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what if your son
calls you by the first name?
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How would you accept this?
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And people said
I'll be offended.
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You know, it's the
sign of disrespect.
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And for that specific
reason in Jewish tradition
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the name of God
which is four letter,
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four Hebrew letter
Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey.
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Right, that's also known
as the Tetragrammaton, right?
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Yeah, tetragrammaton.
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And it was never
pronounced by the Jewish people.
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And it created a bit
of confusion for example,
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because of the
translators of King James Bible
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back in 1600's they didn't know
about this Jewish tradition.
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When they saw the name of God
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and, you know, how in
Hebrew you have the consonants
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and then at the bottom vowels.
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So, so you
understand in Hebrew writing
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what appears to
be all the letters
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that you would see,
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those are actually
all the consonants.
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The vowels appear as dots,
as marks, as dashes and so on.
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So this is what Sasha's,
what Sasha is referring to.
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Yes, yes, so the
translators of King James Bible
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didn't know that the
name of God, Yod, Hey.
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Vav, Hey these four
letters were vocalized.
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The dots were put
intentionally wrong
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and that's why they
come with this Jehovah
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and Jehovah such a word
doesn't exist in Hebrew.
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And I know for many years
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and until today
there were these people
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who believe that God
needs to be called Jehovah.
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And I know that
even in our saying this,
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there are some of
you sitting at home,
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scratching your head
going, wait a minute.
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You know, I for as
long as I've known,
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I've thought that we
are to call God Jehovah
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that it appears in songs,
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that it appears
in all these places.
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And to try and
explain to them wait a minute,
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the whole way
that that term came out
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was a misunderstanding
or a lack of knowledge about
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what the Hebrew really
was doing. Interesting.
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Yeah, and the Hebrew was
trying to actually dissuade it
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either from actually
pronouncing the name of God
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out of respect,
out of reverence,
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you know, that's the
treatment to the name.
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So what would-- how it would be,
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you mean without
putting vowels there,
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that it was like so
people could almost skip over
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so they don't verbalize it or--
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No, they don't verbalize it.
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Instead of Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey
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and you know, grammatical
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it's most likely being
pronounced 'Yahweh'. Okay.
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It's based on the Hebrew
grammar and some other sources.
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But the Jewish tradition always
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whenever you see
Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey
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you have to say it as
Adonai, mean Our Lord.
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Our Lord.
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So they don't
actually pronounce it
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the way it's literally supposed
to be pronounced out of respect
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and then they'd say our Lord.
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They're
substituting, very interesting.
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Yeah, they are substituting.
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And that's how
Jews express reverence
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when they deal
with the name of God.
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I know they also,
if they're writing
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Gods name down on papers
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if they're
writing God or something
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it'll be like G-d.
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Yes. Out of respect.
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Yeah, out of respect,
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yeah, and there is also
that's a little different
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because, you
know, because in Hebrew
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you write left, you read--
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From right to
left. Right to left.
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You know when you read God,
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you know, so they
wouldn't be reading as letters.
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Right! I know an American Jews
would do something like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so they usually put that,
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but that's again
the sign of extreme
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reverence and respect.
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Because calling somebody
as a friend is like more of,
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you know-- Appropriate
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to call friend
by their name but--
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Yeah, you know calling somebody
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by first name
is more of a casual
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and people don't, and Jews don't
want to address God casually.
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And by the way his
name Yod, Hey, Vav,
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Hey is not the only
one which is in scripture.
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We have specific
text, Exodus 6:1.
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This is Moses asking,
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who I'm I supposed to
tell the people has sent me.
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Actually that's Exodus 3.
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But in Exodus 6, God
says, to your fathers
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I have revealed myself
with the name God Almighty
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but with the name
Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey
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I have not revealed myself.
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So you don't have a
single name for God,
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that's this text really proves
that there is another name.
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And the people of
course many people
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who don't read Hebrew
and they see God Almighty,
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they are not aware that actually
Almighty is what's El Shaddai.
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And Shaddai is not Almighty.
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Actually Shaddai is
indeed also a proper name.
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We don't have such a word
in Hebrew that is Shaddai.
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So, you know, there
are many versions of it,
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I tend to agree with
rabbis who translate it as God
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who said enough is
enough, it's a God the Judge.
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Enough is enough, interesting.
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What about that
passage that I wrongly quoted?
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Sorry, but the Exodus
Chapter 3 when Moses is asking,
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you know, who am I supposed
to tell the people has sent me,
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and that's where God
says, I am that I am.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And this is also a translation.
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In fact that's how
God introduced His name.
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His, you know before the Yod,
Hey, Vav, Hey come on stage,
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He says I am that I am.
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And this is where we have
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a little bit of
grammatical issues,
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because I have to tell you,
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English as well as
German, French, Spanish,
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they have many
tenses I believe English,
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you correct me if I'm
wrong has at least 12 tenses?
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And-- You might
know better than we.
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Well-- That's what you study.
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Yeah, in order for
me to speak English,
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I mean in Russian we have
past, future and present. Okay.
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In English I have to figure out,
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is it past simple or past
perfect or future perfect.
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So you're saying
when God said I am
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that I am, is
there controversy over
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whether that was
present or something?
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Well, Hebrew language
doesn't have verb tenses.
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It has verb
forms, the verb appears
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either as a finite
action or infinite action,
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so I am that I am
is like infinite being,
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so God who exist and
he-- From beginning to end.
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From beginning, well, there
is no beginning and end. Right.
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It's infinite exist,
infinitely existing God.
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He always been and He
always will be and He is.
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Okay, so you're
bringing up these names
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that God is calling
Himself in the Book of Exodus.
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When did this Yod,
Hey, Vav, Hey come up about?
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Or when is it first
written in the Bible?
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Well, first it
appears in Genesis Chapter 2.
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Okay.
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So is that
officially God's first name
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in the Bible that we know about.
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One of the
names, it appears like
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it talks about Elohim
which is translated as God.
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And it uses Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey
which is translated as the Lord.
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And the
translation is based on a fact
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that every time Jews read
this they say Adonai our Lord.
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So English translate
that sees Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey,
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it says the Lord.
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And it sees
Elohim translates God.
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So and in.
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Does Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey,
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literally mean our
Lord, is that just the --
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their chosen piece of
sub, their chosen substitute.
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That's based on
Jewish tradition.
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Jewish tradition, okay.
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Yeah, that's based
of Jewish tradition.
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We just said the
literal translation
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of Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey
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is somebody, someone who in
who exists forever infinitely
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with no beginning and no end.
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That's the literal translation.
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But, you know,
reverently, Adonai, Our Lord
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and this is where
many people are extremely,
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you know, that's
where they come and say, oh,
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it's not correct, this is wrong.
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But we have to look
at the example of Jesus.
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What we have in
the New Testament is
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Jesus and the
Apostles and the Gospel writers
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quote the Old
Testament passages.
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They quote these Old Testament
passages in Greek of course.
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And I have to
address this right away
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because there is
this conspiracy's theory
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that goes that,
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you know, you don't have that
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the Greek text
of the New Testament
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which we receive
today is a wrong text,
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that was somewhere hidden away
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Hebrew text of the--
of the Old Testament.
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I have to be very straight,
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this is an
absolute nonsense. Okay.
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For the very simple reason.
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You know, you have to
understand the Jewish reality.
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You were born in
America, Rachel, right? Mm-hmm.
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Do you speak Hebrew?
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Not at all really, I can sing
it but I don't really speak it.
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You know, you have
many Jewish friends?
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I used to.
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I don't live in
Jewish neighborhood anymore,
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I am in Wyoming.
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Yeah, but you grew up--
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I grew up in
the Jewish community
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and I had many Jewish friends.
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Your parents spoke Hebrew?
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No, none of them spoke Hebrew.
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So the Jewish whom you
met across the America,
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what language do they speak?
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English.
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Of course, so if I
give you something in Hebrew
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are you gonna read it?
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I can read it but I don't know
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the exact words that I'm saying
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'cause I learned it from
my Bat Mitzvah, you know.
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That's the point.
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You know, I learned
my Hebrew when I started
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l-- I learning
Hebrew when I turned 18.
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I grew up
speaking Russian in Russia.
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You know so there are
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Jews across the
world, speak the language
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of the country
they grew up with.
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Okay.
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And as we talked in our program,
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for you know, back
then the first century
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you have 70% Jews
living outside of Judah
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do not speak in any Hebrew
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and what kind of
sense would anybody make
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if they receive a text in
Hebrew they can't understand.
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So what are you trying to say?
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What I am saying is
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that the fact
that the New Testament
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was written in Greek,
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it was done for purpose,
so that people could read.
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Today Hebrew, academic Hebrew
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I know may be 10, 15,000 people
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who can read academic Hebrew.
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That's why today the most
books published in English.
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Back then most books wanted
to have widespread audience
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were written in Greek.
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So are you saying that,
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this English words we're
saying have been put there
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so that we can
understand the meaning?
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Of course, of course. Right?
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See, this is when we get back,
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so we go back to
the text of the Gospel,
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and here the Gospel
authors the apostles
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are reading and citing the text
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of the Old
Testament that have this Yod,
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Hey, Vav, Hey. And guess what?
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Do they have this in Greek? No.
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There is no single
instance in a New Testament
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where you have
Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey.
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What you have is
the Greek word 'Kurios'
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which means the Lord and Jesus
cites Himself several times,
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the Lord, the Lord, the Lord.
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Why the Kurios because
when Jesus cites Old Testament,
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He doesn't pronounce the
name of His Father as Yahweh,
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he says, 'My Lord, My
Lord why Thou have forsaken Me'
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before He's dead.
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He didn't cry
out Yahweh, Yahweh,
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why have Thou forsaken me.
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You know that's the last word
Jesus cried out at the cross.
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--So that brings us back to,
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is there a name that is
above all the other names,
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you know of God is
there specific, is Yod,
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Hey, Vav, Hey is that
the most important name
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or from what I'm
gathering from you is
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God didn't
necessarily choose one name
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that's above all
the other names except,
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Jesus did say when
you pray say, our father.
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That's the point.
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When we pray we
address God as our Father,
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our Lord and there is no
any indication in the Bible
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that you have to keep
pronouncing Yahweh or Yod,
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Hey, Vav, Hey as the
name above all the names.
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Well, this of course it
occurs many times in the Bible
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but that's all.
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You know that reminds me,
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I told Alex this the other day,
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I have a friend
who just had a baby
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and I said how is
little Angelica doing?
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And she said whoa, whoa, whoa,
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it's not Angelica, it's
Enhilica and I said okay,
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I'm sorry you know,
sometimes people treat God--
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we put our human
attributes to God thinking that
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God gets upset with us,
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he must be very upset with us
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that we call Him
by his wrong name
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but God is God, He
is much more patient
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and is what it matters
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what's in our
heart is, right, Alex?
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And I think that people
whether they know the Hebrew
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or the Greek can get saved.
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Right.
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You know, I
remember running into people
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arguing that
unless you said Yeshua,
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if you said
Jesus you aren't saved.
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Yeah, God's not
gonna accept you.
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Which of course is-- Ridiculous.
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It's sad. It is sad.
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By the way this is an absolute
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lack of
knowledge of any language.
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See, internet has
all these materials,
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but people who read it
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unfortunately don't know
what they are talking about.
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They don't understand
that Jesus is an Yeshua,
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it's a anglicized
version of the same--
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It's the same.
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It's absolutely the same thing.
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In order to
understand it you need to know
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little bit more
than just English.
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Now, now I would say
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and we've brought this
up in previous programs
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that when you do
look at the Hebrew
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when we use the
word the name Yeshua
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and we understand what
does Yeshua mean in Hebrew.
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Where does it come from?
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It comes from
salvation, the Lord says, right?
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Exactly. And
that's Yeshua Y E not Y A.
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A, right.
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But the
beautiful thing about that
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is that if we take it
just as we've mentioned before
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and you take it into the context
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of the angel speaking to
Mary or some people would say,
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no her name was Miriam, okay.
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But again we're
getting hung up on things
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that ultimately all it does
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is become a device
of tool of the enemy--
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Distraction. To separate.
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Yeah, it's a beautiful thing
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when you, when
you get the picture
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that the angel said to Mary,
you shall call his name Yeshua
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because Yeshua
saves people, you know.
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And as we've said his very name,
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in his very name is salvation.
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And you know that is so
typical, isn't it, Sasha,
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especially of Old
Testament biblical characters,
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that their name
represented who they were
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or the circumstances
that they were born into
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or what they were gonna do,
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how are they gonna
be used in multiple ways
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that was a very common thing.
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Oh, absolutely,
name is the character,
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that's why even the name Yod,
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Hey, Vav, Hey
represent the character,
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you know the
consistency, the permanency,
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the ever existence of
God that's what's important.
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And that's what people
means when they say oh,
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who calls up on the name
of the Lord will be saved,
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so you got to
know the exact name.
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You know I look at
this it's like an idiom,
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you know, like suppose
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somebody is having the
flu and gets a running nose.
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A runny nose?
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Running. Where is it running to?
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So the nose jumped
off the face and ran away.
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You know you
got to have a sense,
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you know you look at this
text in Genesis 4 last verse,
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when, at this time of Sab,
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they first called
upon the name of the Lord,
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I mean what did they do?
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Just came like a wolves
to the moon and started--
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Hey Lord! What did they call?
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Well, you look at Genesis 13:6
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and that's clear, what it means.
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Abraham comes back to the altar
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and calls upon the name of
the-- that's clear by the--
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But, but what Sasha is
saying is that it is an idiom,
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this idea of calling
upon the name of the Lord.
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What it really means is.
Who do you want to serve?
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Those who choose to serve God,
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those who confess that God
is Lord, the Lord of their life.
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In the context of Genesis
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calling upon
the name of the Lord
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mean offering the
sacrifice to the Lord.
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And sacrifice signifies
the sacrifice in Calvary,
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so in fact when Paul speaks
about this in the Book of Acts,
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he says anybody,
you are gonna be saved
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when you accept the
Calvary sacrifice of Jesus.
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That's the calling of the--
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What if you can't
speak or you know,
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if you are deaf or whatever
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you can't actually call
on the name of the Lord,
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I mean what matters is,
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is what you want
to do with your heart?
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What you want to
do with your life?
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Who you want to worship?
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Which by the way is what
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the scripture say that
God looks at the heart.
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Right.
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And it's really the
intent that we have.
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So you know, Rachel,
when we're talking about
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putting this program
together as we wrap this up now
00:22:10.24\00:22:13.23
and prepare for
song which by the way,
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when you listen to the song,
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you're gonna hear
these different names
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that we were talking about.
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Rachel asked the question
in our discussion about this.
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She said, you know,
what really does it matter?
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And that's such
a great statement.
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Because people make
majors out of minors
00:22:26.55\00:22:29.26
and keep people
away from knowing Jesus
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just because of issues
that are really manmade.
00:22:31.88\00:22:35.46
Jesus said that we
should call Him Father.
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You know, when you
call from your heart
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that's all that matters.
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So Rachel and I
are gonna do a song.
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Sasha's gonna tell little bit
about that song as we prepare.
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Kadosh Kadosh Adonai Tz'vaot,
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Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty,
00:22:50.12\00:22:52.50
Revelation 4:8.
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(Singing in foreign language)
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Holy, Holy,
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Holy, Holy,
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Holy, Holy,
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Holy
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Is the Lord,
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God of hosts
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Is the Lord,
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God of hosts
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Who was and who is
00:26:21.11\00:26:27.09
and who is to come
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Who was and who is
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and who is to come
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(Singing in foreign language)
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Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord,
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God of hosts.
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You know someday
00:27:24.08\00:27:25.88
the angels in
heaven will join in
00:27:25.91\00:27:27.58
with the voices
of all the redeemed,
00:27:27.61\00:27:29.93
all those who have called
upon the name of the Lord.
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And we will be
together in the end,
00:27:33.30\00:27:37.09
voices from every
tribe, tongue and nation.
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How amazing that will be.
00:27:39.63\00:27:41.74
So on behalf of
myself, Rachel and Sasha,
00:27:41.77\00:27:45.66
please may the Lord
bless you and may He keep you
00:27:45.69\00:27:48.03
and may the Lord make His face
00:27:48.06\00:27:49.25
to shine upon you
and be gracious to you,
00:27:49.28\00:27:50.83
may the Lord lift
His countenance upon you
00:27:50.86\00:27:52.99
and bring you His peace.
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Join us once again
on Back to our Roots.
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