Who was the first Christian? 00:00:01.41\00:00:04.54 When you think about that what comes to mind? 00:00:04.57\00:00:07.34 Today I am Back To Our Roots. 00:00:07.37\00:00:08.65 We're going to explore exactly that question. Stick around. 00:00:08.68\00:00:11.86 Welcome once again to Back to our Roots. 00:00:32.88\00:00:35.62 I am your host Alex Schlusser and this is my co-host-- 00:00:35.65\00:00:38.50 Rachel Hyman. 00:00:38.53\00:00:39.68 And we're so glad that you decided to join us today. 00:00:39.71\00:00:42.30 And we have a very interesting topic today, 00:00:42.33\00:00:45.11 Rachel. Yes. 00:00:45.14\00:00:46.17 We're going to be discussing, who was the first Christian. 00:00:46.20\00:00:51.13 I don't even know who the first Christian-- 00:00:51.16\00:00:52.19 We can say who were the first Christians? 00:00:52.22\00:00:54.36 When does that term appear? 00:00:54.39\00:00:58.09 When did Christianity begin? 00:00:58.12\00:01:01.16 Interesting thought. 00:01:01.19\00:01:02.49 You know, Rachel, if I was to ask you that, 00:01:02.52\00:01:05.00 how do you think most people would respond? 00:01:05.03\00:01:07.43 When did Christianity begin? 00:01:07.46\00:01:09.69 I guess maybe most people would respond, 00:01:09.72\00:01:11.61 you know, after Jesus died 00:01:11.64\00:01:14.09 or you know, when Jesus was here I guess. 00:01:14.12\00:01:16.68 And you know most people know how to answer, 00:01:16.71\00:01:18.68 you know, oh, the Jews were the first Christians. 00:01:18.71\00:01:21.68 But for some reason I think that's been difficult 00:01:21.71\00:01:23.29 for some people to embrace. 00:01:23.32\00:01:24.97 You know, I would really say that. 00:01:25.00\00:01:26.89 I think probably the average person 00:01:26.92\00:01:30.30 would not even associate Jews with Christianity. 00:01:30.33\00:01:32.83 Yeah, that's probably true. 00:01:32.86\00:01:33.89 You know, they would probably 00:01:33.92\00:01:35.27 think that well, this is Christianity. 00:01:35.30\00:01:37.78 And, you know, I think that one of the purposes 00:01:37.81\00:01:40.63 of our program all along the way has been to show 00:01:40.66\00:01:44.69 this connection between Hebrew mind, Jewish people, 00:01:44.72\00:01:51.29 those things Jewish, especially the first century and before 00:01:51.32\00:01:54.23 that and how that really was the foundation 00:01:54.26\00:01:58.15 of what we know now as Christianity. 00:01:58.18\00:02:00.91 That when Jesus came, 00:02:00.94\00:02:03.31 when Paul walked the face of the earth 00:02:03.34\00:02:05.13 was their intent to create a new religion 00:02:05.16\00:02:07.75 that would become called Christianity. 00:02:07.78\00:02:10.22 Interesting question. 00:02:10.25\00:02:11.28 So we're going to discuss those things today. 00:02:11.31\00:02:14.11 So hang with us. 00:02:14.14\00:02:15.20 It's going to be a very interesting 00:02:15.23\00:02:16.94 program today. 00:02:16.97\00:02:18.07 I'd like to invite out our resident scholar, 00:02:18.10\00:02:21.42 Alexander Bolotnikov. 00:02:21.45\00:02:23.44 Sasha, how are you doing or should I say, Dr. Sasha? 00:02:23.47\00:02:28.74 Good to see you, Alex. Good to see you, Rachel. 00:02:28.77\00:02:30.67 And doctors and professors 00:02:30.70\00:02:32.12 always need help with their clothing. 00:02:32.15\00:02:34.73 So it's good to see you again. 00:02:34.76\00:02:35.79 Rachel always watches around me. 00:02:35.82\00:02:39.08 Today, Sasha, we're talking about the first Christians. 00:02:39.11\00:02:43.85 And maybe as important, when did Christianity begin? 00:02:43.88\00:02:50.65 Who were the first Christians? 00:02:50.68\00:02:52.75 When did that term even come into play? 00:02:52.78\00:02:57.84 So let's go back and let's begin our discussion today with-- 00:02:57.87\00:03:03.59 when did Christianity begin? 00:03:03.62\00:03:05.03 Was it at the crucifixion? 00:03:05.06\00:03:08.42 Did Paul begin Christianity? What do you think, Sasha? 00:03:08.45\00:03:13.06 The first congregation of followers of the Messiah 00:03:13.09\00:03:20.48 started 50 days after the crucifixion. 00:03:20.51\00:03:23.44 Right. 00:03:23.47\00:03:24.83 That was the Feast of Pentecost. 00:03:24.86\00:03:28.77 And that was the best time when number of Jewish pilgrims 00:03:28.80\00:03:35.55 from all around the world would come to Jerusalem. 00:03:35.58\00:03:41.98 I have to notice, we got to notice the fact that, 00:03:42.01\00:03:46.92 you know, about only about 30% of Jewish people 00:03:46.95\00:03:52.93 lived in Judea during the first century. 00:03:52.96\00:03:56.63 70% of the Jews kind of moved away from Judea 00:03:56.66\00:04:02.02 just because it's so small economy, 00:04:02.05\00:04:04.47 all kinds of issues and they lived-- 00:04:04.50\00:04:07.25 was big community in Alexandria, Egypt. 00:04:07.28\00:04:10.83 There was a big community in Rome. 00:04:10.86\00:04:12.75 There was communities all across Asia Minor 00:04:12.78\00:04:16.46 which is today's Turkey. 00:04:16.49\00:04:18.01 There was community in the area 00:04:18.04\00:04:20.76 which is known as today as Iran and Iraq. 00:04:20.79\00:04:23.84 There was a community in Tarshish 00:04:23.87\00:04:26.60 known as today as Spain across Mediterranean. 00:04:26.63\00:04:30.05 So the Pentecost was-- that day when-- 00:04:30.08\00:04:35.82 basically parents would bring their children 00:04:35.85\00:04:39.78 to the Jerusalem to their birthplace. 00:04:39.81\00:04:42.51 You know, Alex, it's like, today it's like a Bar Mitzvah tours, 00:04:42.54\00:04:46.59 the Israel organize for American Jewish kids. 00:04:46.62\00:04:49.52 So what that is, is that for those of you 00:04:49.55\00:04:52.05 that may not know the-- 00:04:52.08\00:04:55.59 boy, I don't want to call it a ceremony but the celebration 00:04:55.62\00:04:58.48 that a 13 year old Jewish boy and a 12 year old Jewish girl 00:04:58.51\00:05:04.32 go through something called Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah 00:05:04.35\00:05:07.43 and it means sons or daughter of the commandment 00:05:07.46\00:05:09.87 and it really for them to signifying 00:05:09.90\00:05:12.98 that they have accepted responsibly 00:05:13.01\00:05:15.13 for their own spiritual growth. 00:05:15.16\00:05:16.61 There's a lot of things that happened 00:05:16.64\00:05:17.67 but in essence that's what it is. 00:05:17.70\00:05:19.33 What Sasha is talking about 00:05:19.36\00:05:20.53 is this is very popular for people to, 00:05:20.56\00:05:24.13 parents to take their son or their daughter 00:05:24.16\00:05:26.46 in conjunction with their Bat Mitzvah or Bar Mitzvah 00:05:26.49\00:05:29.57 to go to Jerusalem, to Israel and to be able to celebrate it 00:05:29.60\00:05:33.31 especially at the Western Wall, big and popular thing. 00:05:33.34\00:05:37.21 So it was one of the things Sasha is saying that 00:05:37.24\00:05:41.38 during that time of Pentecost that the Jews would all travel, 00:05:41.41\00:05:46.00 no matter where they lived they would come to Jerusalem. 00:05:46.03\00:05:49.31 This is the reason why there are 00:05:49.34\00:05:50.81 so many people there, the streets would swell. 00:05:50.84\00:05:53.09 And of course we've talked previously this is the point 00:05:53.12\00:05:56.47 when the outpouring of the Holy Spirit happens 00:05:56.50\00:05:59.46 that Peter is preaching 00:05:59.49\00:06:01.07 and thousands are getting saved, right. 00:06:01.10\00:06:03.22 Three thousand people, what happen was, 00:06:03.25\00:06:06.45 you know, as we mentioned in our last program, 00:06:06.48\00:06:09.87 suddenly you know, during this temple ceremony 00:06:09.90\00:06:14.33 when they are about to embark on the reading of the story of 00:06:14.36\00:06:18.83 how God delivered Ten Commandments to Israel 00:06:18.86\00:06:23.13 you know, I'm following in Exodus 19:20. 00:06:23.16\00:06:26.47 Then suddenly that fire, like a little pillar, 00:06:26.50\00:06:31.24 little tongue of fire would rest 00:06:31.27\00:06:33.93 upon the disciples of Jesus making them a mini temples. 00:06:33.96\00:06:40.56 And this startles everybody. 00:06:40.59\00:06:44.11 These uneducated Galileans because that's what Galileans 00:06:44.14\00:06:49.41 were viewed in Jerusalem like uneducated, farmers, fishermen, 00:06:49.44\00:06:54.41 who didn't know how to speak Hebrew language. 00:06:54.44\00:06:58.54 They spoke simple Aramaic and then 00:06:58.57\00:07:01.20 and they needed to translate-- 00:07:01.23\00:07:02.66 that Jerusalemites would translate for them Torah. 00:07:02.69\00:07:05.63 They began to speak not only in Hebrew 00:07:05.66\00:07:07.77 but in all kinds of languages of this Diaspora people-- 00:07:07.80\00:07:12.97 Which Diaspora means anyone 00:07:13.00\00:07:14.44 that lived outside of Jerusalem or Judea. 00:07:14.47\00:07:16.73 Yeah, and that's why it was so important like, 00:07:16.76\00:07:20.86 when American Jews come to Israel 00:07:20.89\00:07:23.89 the majority of them speak English, 00:07:23.92\00:07:26.16 don't speak any Hebrew, 00:07:26.19\00:07:28.03 they need translation the same way. 00:07:28.06\00:07:30.09 You know, Alexandrian Jews spoke Greek. 00:07:30.12\00:07:32.74 You know, Persian Jews Spoke Persian. 00:07:32.77\00:07:34.84 So all of the sudden, you know, 00:07:34.87\00:07:36.18 the story of Pentecostals is when it say they heard tongues, 00:07:36.21\00:07:39.19 you know, what it was is that they were hearing 00:07:39.22\00:07:41.56 the presentation of the gospel in their languages. 00:07:41.59\00:07:45.61 So it's either they were hearing it 00:07:45.64\00:07:47.05 or they were speaking it, but either way 00:07:47.08\00:07:49.58 translation was happening somehow and they understood. 00:07:49.61\00:07:52.46 Yes, exactly. 00:07:52.49\00:07:53.52 That what was really moved and so Peter comes in 00:07:53.55\00:07:57.19 and gives that explanation, appeals to people to repent. 00:07:57.22\00:08:01.55 And you got 3,000 Jews basically, 00:08:01.58\00:08:05.52 they were not some kind of a tourist, they were not, 00:08:05.55\00:08:09.14 you know, anybody else they were Jews, 00:08:09.17\00:08:13.05 3,000 Jews that's what, 00:08:13.08\00:08:15.12 that's what the Book of Acts 2 tells. 00:08:15.15\00:08:18.71 Decide to dedicate their life to the Lord 00:08:18.74\00:08:21.93 and they formed that first community that followed 00:08:21.96\00:08:27.78 and accepted Jesus as their Messiah and Savior. 00:08:27.81\00:08:32.78 Now let me ask you something. 00:08:32.81\00:08:35.58 I know that in few places in the New Testament 00:08:35.61\00:08:39.66 there is a term that they were followers of the way. 00:08:39.69\00:08:44.70 At what point now that, you know, 00:08:44.73\00:08:47.04 that seems to be the early name of those 00:08:47.07\00:08:50.58 Jews that were following Messiah? 00:08:50.61\00:08:52.44 The way. Yeah, it was "the way." 00:08:52.47\00:08:54.37 That's cool. They were following-- 00:08:54.40\00:08:55.43 Oh, because exactly, because Jesus in Gospel of John-- 00:08:55.46\00:08:58.54 Said, I am the way. 00:08:58.57\00:08:59.74 I am the way, truth and the life. So-- 00:08:59.77\00:09:01.91 So that's really the earliest name. 00:09:01.94\00:09:04.47 Exactly, there was no-- there was no like Christian. 00:09:04.50\00:09:07.30 We'll get to it little later, but there was exactly, 00:09:07.33\00:09:12.99 there were followers of the way. 00:09:13.02\00:09:14.61 The reason why, Jewish-- 00:09:14.64\00:09:18.25 I mean this is within Jewish community. 00:09:18.28\00:09:21.35 It's within Jewish community. That's why, 00:09:21.38\00:09:23.54 you know, historians treat the first century Christians, 00:09:23.57\00:09:26.80 they call them straight forward Judea Christians, 00:09:26.83\00:09:30.53 for reason because, all of this was happened 00:09:30.56\00:09:33.29 inside Jewish community. 00:09:33.32\00:09:35.83 And so these people needed to be distinct 00:09:35.86\00:09:43.06 from a traditionally established sects within Judaism. 00:09:43.09\00:09:47.96 You had Pharisees, you had Sadducees, 00:09:47.99\00:09:50.94 you had Essenes, you had Zealots extremists. 00:09:50.97\00:09:54.84 These were the followers of the way. 00:09:54.87\00:09:57.48 That's how they distinguished themselves. 00:09:57.51\00:10:00.48 So let's define something. 00:10:00.51\00:10:02.15 You know, before we get too far, okay. 00:10:02.18\00:10:03.91 So we're used to hearing the term that Christian 00:10:03.94\00:10:07.97 to describe those that are followers of Jesus, right? 00:10:08.00\00:10:13.61 So what literally, see, that the interesting thing is, 00:10:13.64\00:10:17.41 Christian is really the description of exactly that, 00:10:17.44\00:10:20.34 right? Yes. 00:10:20.37\00:10:21.40 The followers of the Christ or the Messiah. Yes. 00:10:21.43\00:10:26.29 Yet that at some point sticks as only the name of this sect. 00:10:26.32\00:10:31.72 I guess it takes over 00:10:31.75\00:10:33.58 even those that are using the term the way. 00:10:33.61\00:10:36.54 Now is that and maybe 00:10:36.57\00:10:37.94 I am getting ahead of ourselves here. 00:10:37.97\00:10:40.00 But is that the result of the growing separation 00:10:40.03\00:10:43.59 between those that believe in Jesus 00:10:43.62\00:10:45.89 and those that were in the Jewish community? 00:10:45.92\00:10:49.03 Does that have anything to do with the fact 00:10:49.06\00:10:51.02 that the name the way falls out of favor versus Christian? 00:10:51.05\00:10:54.49 What do you think? 00:10:54.52\00:10:55.55 What happened is this. 00:10:55.58\00:10:58.14 When we talk about the first century, 00:10:58.17\00:11:00.23 we do have definitely a strong opposition. 00:11:00.26\00:11:03.68 Strong opposition to the followers of Jesus 00:11:03.71\00:11:08.66 from amongst the rabbis and the priest. 00:11:08.69\00:11:11.47 And we have to remember also that even in the Bible 00:11:11.50\00:11:15.22 in the Book of Acts especially like in Chapter 11. 00:11:15.25\00:11:18.49 I mean, it pretty much makes it clear 00:11:18.52\00:11:20.46 that all of the believers at first, they are Jewish. 00:11:20.49\00:11:23.28 Yeah, exactly. 00:11:23.31\00:11:24.35 I mean, you know, when we say the "Body of Christ" 00:11:24.38\00:11:27.25 that we want to use that term to describe 00:11:27.28\00:11:31.15 the whole entirety of those who followed. 00:11:31.18\00:11:33.58 Well, the "body" in that large portion of time 00:11:33.61\00:11:38.09 in the first century especially early first century after Jesus, 00:11:38.12\00:11:42.86 it's exclusively Jewish. 00:11:42.89\00:11:45.18 You know, Alex, I was-- 00:11:45.21\00:11:47.81 I had this experiences all the time. 00:11:47.84\00:11:50.66 When I do public lectures 00:11:50.69\00:11:53.55 many Jewish people come to me-- 00:11:53.58\00:11:56.37 I have these lectures on Judaism and Christianity 00:11:56.40\00:11:58.92 and they are startled with the question. 00:11:58.95\00:12:01.77 You know, explain to us how come first Christians, 00:12:01.80\00:12:08.48 we read in history they were all Jewish 00:12:08.51\00:12:11.43 and now Christianity is so anti-Jewish in many ways. 00:12:11.46\00:12:16.04 That's how Jews-- that's how the secular Jews see it. 00:12:16.07\00:12:21.07 And what happens is I believe the rift began 00:12:21.10\00:12:27.21 in the middle of the second century 00:12:27.24\00:12:29.62 and I have to tell you the main problem became 00:12:29.65\00:12:33.37 that it was actually Christianity 00:12:33.40\00:12:36.13 started to severing the ties with Judaism, 00:12:36.16\00:12:41.10 with Jewish community by accepting the-- 00:12:41.13\00:12:45.12 by rejecting the Sabbath and the Torah. 00:12:45.15\00:12:47.54 So let's jump over to this, okay. 00:12:47.57\00:12:52.61 I think another common thing that I've heard, 00:12:52.64\00:12:55.98 Sasha, is that Paul really is the one who-- 00:12:56.01\00:13:01.51 if you are going to say "a Christian" 00:13:01.54\00:13:04.36 because maybe his mission to the Gentiles. 00:13:04.39\00:13:08.35 But was Paul the first true Christian? 00:13:08.38\00:13:12.79 Absolutely not. 00:13:12.82\00:13:15.60 That's the other extreme and that's often 00:13:15.63\00:13:18.10 what the rabbis today teach. 00:13:18.13\00:13:20.83 So in the Book of Acts 18, 00:13:20.86\00:13:23.55 there's specifically some things 00:13:23.58\00:13:25.41 that I think speak to that situation. 00:13:25.44\00:13:28.00 Oh, absolutely, when you look at the Book of Acts 18. 00:13:28.03\00:13:32.88 Well, maybe we have to go back to the Book of Acts 11, 00:13:32.91\00:13:38.02 where we have to see how the term Christians emerged 00:13:38.05\00:13:45.29 and the text says that, you know, 00:13:45.32\00:13:48.53 of what happened was 00:13:48.56\00:13:50.52 one of the leaders of the community in Jerusalem, 00:13:50.55\00:13:53.81 Steven was stoned 00:13:53.84\00:13:55.80 and that prompted a strong persecution 00:13:55.83\00:14:00.64 and as a result of persecution 00:14:00.67\00:14:02.91 many leaders of the community of followers of the way 00:14:02.94\00:14:08.16 and Judea had to go away but they went to Cyprus, 00:14:08.19\00:14:12.46 they went to the Tyre and other adjacent areas 00:14:12.49\00:14:16.63 and it says there that they preached the gospel 00:14:16.66\00:14:20.75 to nobody else but the Jews. 00:14:20.78\00:14:23.68 Right. 00:14:23.71\00:14:24.79 What happens next? Which Jews that it refers to? 00:14:24.82\00:14:30.54 It refers to the Jews of the Diaspora. 00:14:30.57\00:14:33.32 Again, remember, Diaspora means 00:14:33.35\00:14:35.13 the Jews that are outside of Judea. 00:14:35.16\00:14:37.14 Right. 00:14:37.17\00:14:38.20 So Jews of the Diaspora 00:14:38.23\00:14:40.94 were more receptive to the message 00:14:40.97\00:14:44.88 such of Messiah than the Jews of Jerusalem. 00:14:44.91\00:14:49.61 So why do you think that was-- 00:14:49.64\00:14:50.75 do you think that there was less influenced by the temple, 00:14:50.78\00:14:55.15 by the Pharisees, by the Sadducees, 00:14:55.18\00:14:56.91 the further they moved away from Judea. 00:14:56.94\00:14:58.56 Yes, yes. 00:14:58.59\00:14:59.81 There was less political issues. 00:14:59.84\00:15:03.58 There was less you know-- 00:15:03.61\00:15:05.24 Maybe people felt freer 00:15:05.27\00:15:07.12 to explore things that were outside 00:15:07.15\00:15:08.98 what was being taught by the established leaders-- 00:15:09.01\00:15:11.05 Oh, yes, oh yes, oh yes. 00:15:11.08\00:15:12.77 That's why even the Pharisees in the Diaspora 00:15:12.80\00:15:15.32 would be more receptive. 00:15:15.35\00:15:16.92 Although it's interesting that Acts 15 00:15:16.95\00:15:20.80 points to us that the community, 00:15:20.83\00:15:22.86 the church in Jerusalem 00:15:22.89\00:15:25.18 did have number of former Pharisees. 00:15:25.21\00:15:28.18 And by the way Steven was stoned 00:15:28.21\00:15:31.95 if you look at the Book of Acts 7. 00:15:31.98\00:15:35.67 Steven was stoned because he preached the message 00:15:35.70\00:15:39.96 so fervently that even the priests 00:15:39.99\00:15:45.11 were accepting Jesus. 00:15:45.14\00:15:46.52 And that's what cause, you know. 00:15:46.55\00:15:49.39 I mean, look at Barnabas, who was Barnabas? 00:15:49.42\00:15:52.55 It says in the Book of Acts, you know, 00:15:52.58\00:15:54.19 famous apostle but in the Book of Acts he was a Levite. 00:15:54.22\00:15:58.45 So at the stoning of Steven, 00:15:58.48\00:16:01.21 that's when we first learn about Paul, right, 00:16:01.24\00:16:05.22 that he's there when that's happening. 00:16:05.25\00:16:09.94 Yet, by the time we jump ahead now 00:16:09.97\00:16:12.28 and even further into Acts 18. 00:16:12.31\00:16:15.21 Paul is-- scripture says that he's occupied with the word, 00:16:15.24\00:16:18.81 he's testifying to the Jews, right? 00:16:18.84\00:16:22.13 That the Christ, that the Messiah was indeed 00:16:22.16\00:16:25.58 Jesus, right. 00:16:25.61\00:16:28.34 It says that they opposed and reviled him. 00:16:28.37\00:16:31.79 Now this is his Jewish contemporary. 00:16:31.82\00:16:35.00 The ones that he had walked with, you know, 00:16:35.03\00:16:37.94 I don't know what the time period was 00:16:37.97\00:16:39.80 from the time that Steven is stoned 00:16:39.83\00:16:41.86 that he experiences that, 00:16:41.89\00:16:43.14 that he's the one pursuing the Jews 00:16:43.17\00:16:45.40 that believed calling them the heretics 00:16:45.43\00:16:47.61 and then he becomes a "heretic" himself following the Messiah. 00:16:47.64\00:16:53.49 Now there's a key scripture that 00:16:53.52\00:16:56.50 I want to spent at least a few minutes 00:16:56.53\00:16:58.49 and maybe have you give your thoughts 00:16:58.52\00:17:00.60 because this is so controversial, all right. 00:17:00.63\00:17:04.62 In terms of how this affected the relationship 00:17:04.65\00:17:07.11 that the Jews had and the God had with the Jews 00:17:07.14\00:17:09.62 because I've heard people use this, okay, 00:17:09.65\00:17:12.50 and it's simply this. 00:17:12.53\00:17:13.78 So Paul is testifying, he's talking about the Jews, 00:17:13.81\00:17:16.56 they opposed and they reviled him. 00:17:16.59\00:17:18.52 He shook out his garments, scripture says, 00:17:18.55\00:17:20.83 and he said, your blood be upon your own heads, 00:17:20.86\00:17:24.82 I am innocent, now I am going to go to the Gentiles. 00:17:24.85\00:17:29.05 I've heard people used that in the context of 00:17:29.08\00:17:33.65 here's one more proof-- 00:17:33.68\00:17:35.49 That the Jews rejected Jesus. 00:17:35.52\00:17:37.10 That they rejected and that-- They made their decision. 00:17:37.13\00:17:40.39 Paul even affirms that and moves on, okay. 00:17:40.42\00:17:45.33 Well-- 00:17:45.36\00:17:46.46 And then they take that as an example for today. 00:17:46.49\00:17:48.37 Now, you know, just forget about the Jews, 00:17:48.40\00:17:49.76 they already made their decision, let's just do it. 00:17:49.79\00:17:51.27 Exactly. 00:17:51.30\00:17:52.56 The problem is that they don't read 00:17:52.59\00:17:54.74 what these words mean in context. 00:17:54.77\00:17:57.39 Paul goes across the road to the different location 00:17:57.42\00:18:03.36 and with Paul he takes the-- 00:18:03.39\00:18:08.50 Crispus the ruler of the synagogue, 00:18:08.53\00:18:10.60 it says, believed in the Lord together was entire household 00:18:10.63\00:18:14.18 and many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed 00:18:14.21\00:18:16.81 and were baptized. 00:18:16.84\00:18:18.18 Exactly. So all these words, you know, 00:18:18.21\00:18:21.70 what we always have to remember, 00:18:21.73\00:18:24.32 Jews are loud people, isn't it so? 00:18:24.35\00:18:26.78 Just a little. 00:18:26.81\00:18:29.09 And so Paul was no less loud than the Jews today 00:18:29.12\00:18:33.57 and the discussions get heated, 00:18:33.60\00:18:35.89 but in every community 00:18:35.92\00:18:38.02 you have people who accept Jesus, 00:18:38.05\00:18:40.55 you have people who reject Jesus. 00:18:40.58\00:18:42.48 We have-- when we read about 00:18:42.51\00:18:44.98 the missionary journeys of Paul, 00:18:45.01\00:18:47.59 time after time we will see one pattern, 00:18:47.62\00:18:51.92 Paul goes into synagogue-- 00:18:51.95\00:18:53.75 First. First. Yeah. 00:18:53.78\00:18:56.25 Because there was no other-- 00:18:56.28\00:18:58.73 this place for Paul to preach the gospel to the people. 00:18:58.76\00:19:03.59 Paul once attempted to go in Athens to the Areopagus, 00:19:03.62\00:19:10.71 the place where philosophers meet. 00:19:10.74\00:19:14.05 And, you know, he was really, really killed there. 00:19:14.08\00:19:17.98 Philosophers just didn't get anything, 00:19:18.01\00:19:21.58 it was so foreign to them. 00:19:21.61\00:19:23.41 There was one fellow whom he convert 00:19:23.44\00:19:25.62 but Paul would go into synagogue, 00:19:25.65\00:19:27.89 the synagogue would split 00:19:27.92\00:19:30.29 and the split of part of the synagogue, 00:19:30.32\00:19:34.23 it's that's what the-- 00:19:34.26\00:19:36.86 that's what becomes a new Christian church. 00:19:36.89\00:19:40.71 You know, what I find interesting today, 00:19:40.74\00:19:42.37 there's been this reaction in the Jewish community 00:19:42.40\00:19:44.65 for those who accept Jesus 00:19:44.68\00:19:46.00 and instead of even calling themselves Christian. 00:19:46.03\00:19:48.49 There's a lot Jews that feel much more comfortable 00:19:48.52\00:19:50.52 with saying, "I am a believer" just to, 00:19:50.55\00:19:53.04 you know, make the point that 00:19:53.07\00:19:54.79 they are not leaving all of their Judaism behind. 00:19:54.82\00:19:57.52 And in a way they are basically saying, 00:19:57.55\00:19:59.08 I am not in a new religion, 00:19:59.11\00:20:00.23 I just feel in some sense completed 00:20:00.26\00:20:03.02 because I've accepted Messiah. 00:20:03.05\00:20:04.55 It's like a new phrase today. 00:20:04.58\00:20:05.61 Well, I think also Rachel, that's a great point. 00:20:05.64\00:20:08.10 And I think that the tendency 00:20:08.13\00:20:10.65 also is to look at from a Jewish perspective. 00:20:10.68\00:20:15.22 All the baggage that they would perceive 00:20:15.25\00:20:16.97 goes along with the term-- 00:20:17.00\00:20:18.34 Christian, exactly. 00:20:18.37\00:20:19.61 Because from a Jewish perspective 00:20:19.64\00:20:22.08 you would look at "Christian" 00:20:22.11\00:20:23.96 and it's everything oppose to everything that Jewish is. 00:20:23.99\00:20:26.99 Right. Right? 00:20:27.02\00:20:28.08 From the holidays that are celebrated 00:20:28.11\00:20:30.73 to the total approach. 00:20:30.76\00:20:33.09 I think it's one of the things that makes 00:20:33.12\00:20:36.24 Seventh-day Adventist poise to reach the Jewish people. 00:20:36.27\00:20:39.43 Yeah, exactly. 00:20:39.46\00:20:40.49 I'm not sure everybody totally realizes 00:20:40.52\00:20:43.18 how much the Seventh-day Adventist 00:20:43.21\00:20:45.32 denomination really has with Jews compared to, you know, 00:20:45.35\00:20:47.55 everyday simple denomination. 00:20:47.58\00:20:50.32 Right, there are so many similarities. 00:20:50.35\00:20:51.84 But, Sasha, let's, I feel like 00:20:51.87\00:20:54.20 we kind of strayed a little bit 00:20:54.23\00:20:55.40 and I do want to go back to Acts Chapter 11, okay. 00:20:55.43\00:20:59.42 Why don't you pick it up there because 00:20:59.45\00:21:00.99 we wanting to look at when this term Christian 00:21:01.02\00:21:04.12 really popped on to the scene. 00:21:04.15\00:21:06.81 Well, if you look at Chapter 11, 00:21:06.84\00:21:09.31 you have this sequence of statements. 00:21:09.34\00:21:12.38 Statement number one. 00:21:12.41\00:21:13.96 After the stoning of Steven, 00:21:13.99\00:21:18.31 number of believers went away from Judea, 00:21:18.34\00:21:23.03 they came in as we said into Diaspora, 00:21:23.06\00:21:25.74 preached the word to the Jews of the Diaspora. 00:21:25.77\00:21:28.36 Number of the Jews in the Diaspora 00:21:28.39\00:21:31.38 accepted the word 00:21:31.41\00:21:33.21 and somehow they made their way into the Antioch. 00:21:33.24\00:21:37.77 Antioch, if you look geographically, 00:21:37.80\00:21:40.60 it's on the north, close in the Mediterranean Coast 00:21:40.63\00:21:45.04 and it's in today's Syria. 00:21:45.07\00:21:47.34 So it's kind of close to Judea. 00:21:47.37\00:21:49.31 So they made their way and it says, 00:21:49.34\00:21:51.60 the disciples of Antioch begin to be called Christians. 00:21:51.63\00:21:57.06 So they made these Jews of Diaspora 00:21:57.09\00:22:02.79 who became convicted that Jesus was their Messiah 00:22:02.82\00:22:10.14 kind of founded that community in Antioch 00:22:10.17\00:22:15.82 and that community was called Christians. 00:22:15.85\00:22:18.07 Actually, well, if we talk about Christians, 00:22:18.10\00:22:20.42 you know, Christós Christ in Greek means Messiah, Masia?, 00:22:20.45\00:22:26.98 The anointed one. 00:22:27.01\00:22:28.32 So there, you know, basically 00:22:28.35\00:22:31.14 there is a term today in English, Messianic. 00:22:31.17\00:22:34.56 So in Hebrew they would be called like Messianic believers. 00:22:34.59\00:22:39.63 Right, you know, isn't that crazy thing 00:22:39.66\00:22:41.06 there was that anyone 00:22:41.09\00:22:42.64 who believes that Jesus is Messiah 00:22:42.67\00:22:44.44 can rightly be called Messianic. 00:22:44.47\00:22:46.09 Exactly, 'cause they believe in Messiah. 00:22:46.12\00:22:47.85 Right. 00:22:47.88\00:22:49.24 So it's funny how it's just been 00:22:49.27\00:22:50.78 pigeonholed into this one idea. 00:22:50.81\00:22:53.12 Oh, you are Messianic. 00:22:53.15\00:22:54.93 Well, you are not Messianic, right? 00:22:54.96\00:22:57.91 Yeah. 00:22:57.94\00:22:58.97 When Paul, when we get this idea 00:23:01.68\00:23:05.16 that Paul is the first Christian, all right. 00:23:05.19\00:23:09.11 I would like to propose that like you said, that's erroneous. 00:23:09.14\00:23:12.76 Paul was not the first Christian. No. 00:23:12.79\00:23:15.33 I don't think that, well past the first century 00:23:15.36\00:23:21.43 that those believers thought they were anything 00:23:21.46\00:23:23.98 but Jewish following the Jewish Messiah. 00:23:24.01\00:23:26.34 Absolutely. Totally. 00:23:26.37\00:23:27.46 Even though--I have to make this understand our viewers 00:23:27.49\00:23:31.74 that those people who accepted the message of Jesus, 00:23:31.77\00:23:36.62 they were not of a Jewish descent, 00:23:36.65\00:23:39.46 but Paul found most of them in the synagogue. 00:23:39.49\00:23:44.26 You have to understand that in those period, 00:23:44.29\00:23:48.00 the synagogue was the only place where people of all nations 00:23:48.03\00:23:53.18 and cultures could find the faith in one God. 00:23:53.21\00:23:57.67 And this is why they were coming for teaching. 00:23:57.70\00:24:00.28 People a lot of times I think get confused 00:24:00.31\00:24:03.92 with the idea of the temple and the synagogue. 00:24:03.95\00:24:07.80 Two completely different places, two complete-- 00:24:07.83\00:24:09.90 as were in the later show, 00:24:09.93\00:24:11.63 we're going to go in detail about the temple. 00:24:11.66\00:24:14.43 But, you know, to speak to this 00:24:14.46\00:24:16.37 we mentioned Acts 19, specifically verse 8. 00:24:16.40\00:24:21.90 Listen to this. 00:24:21.93\00:24:23.58 "And he entered the synagogue," 00:24:23.61\00:24:25.07 he is Paul, right? 00:24:25.10\00:24:26.88 "He entered the synagogue 00:24:26.91\00:24:28.02 and for three months spoke boldly, 00:24:28.05\00:24:30.49 reasoning and persuading them about the Kingdom of God." 00:24:30.52\00:24:34.84 So once again, we have very clear evidence 00:24:34.87\00:24:37.72 and proof that to think that the body of Messiah 00:24:37.75\00:24:44.14 in its earliest form was anything 00:24:44.17\00:24:46.18 but the natural outgrowth 00:24:46.21\00:24:49.21 of what God had planned from the beginning, 00:24:49.24\00:24:51.84 the followers of Messiah. 00:24:51.87\00:24:54.62 I think, it's totally missing on so many levels the point. 00:24:54.65\00:24:59.73 Yeah, the Book of Acts is absolutely clear on that. 00:24:59.76\00:25:03.81 So, Rachel, and I are going to sing a song here 00:25:03.84\00:25:07.27 and Sasha, if you tell our friends about it. 00:25:07.30\00:25:09.46 Hodu, give thanks to the Lord, Psalm 136. 00:25:09.49\00:25:15.53 ( singing in foreign language ) 00:25:18.69\00:25:20.69 Give thanks to the Lord He is good 00:26:15.02\00:26:22.16 He is mercy forever endures 00:26:22.19\00:26:29.42 Give thanks to the Lord He is good 00:26:29.45\00:26:36.50 His mercy forever endures 00:26:36.53\00:26:41.38 So we give thanks. 00:26:41.41\00:26:43.28 Oh, give thanks, give thanks, give thanks, give thanks 00:26:43.31\00:26:50.44 Oh, give thanks to the Lord He is good 00:26:50.47\00:26:57.63 Oh, give thanks, give thanks, give thanks, give thanks 00:26:57.66\00:27:04.78 Give thanks to the Lord He is good 00:27:04.81\00:27:11.69 (singing in foreign language) 00:27:11.72\00:27:13.69 Give thanks to the Lord, He is so good. 00:27:42.60\00:27:45.49 And may the Lord bless you and may He keep you 00:27:45.52\00:27:48.87 and may the Lord make his face to shine upon you 00:27:48.90\00:27:51.24 and be gracious to you. 00:27:51.27\00:27:52.99 May the Lord lift His countenance upon you 00:27:53.02\00:27:55.30 and bring you His peace. 00:27:55.33\00:27:56.92 Join us once again on Back to our Roots. 00:27:56.95\00:27:59.60