Hello and welcome to the
Behold the Lamb presents.
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I'm Chris Shelton your host
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and we want to welcome
you to our Bible study today.
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Today's message
is actually the third
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and final message in
our three part series
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that we've entitled
"Women's Ordination."
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You know, friends,
it's worth our repeating
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from part two of this series
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that our hierarchical
position does not change
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our equality with
God or His love for us.
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Nor does it change the
importance of our work.
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In Manuscript
Releases, number 9 and page 115,
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it reads, "The Lord wants
living members in His church,
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men and women who will encourage
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one another in
faithful service."
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And from the Review and
Herald dated June 2nd, 1903
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it was written "It
is the Lord's purpose
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to have a well-trained army,
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ready to be called into
action at a moment's notice.
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This army will be made up of
well-disciplined men and women
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who have placed
themselves under influences
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that have
prepared them for service."
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And finally before
our concluding study
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on this subject today
with Pastor Kenny Shelton,
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allow me to share one
more rather short quote
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as found
Manuscript Releases again.
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But this time
number 5 and page 162,
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"God wants workers who can
carry the truth to all classes,
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high and low, rich and poor.
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In this work women
may act an important part.
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God grant that
those who read these words
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may put forth earnest
efforts to present an open door
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for consecrated women
to enter into the field.
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It is not eloquence that
makes their work acceptable.
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It is through the human and
contrite that the Lord works."
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Friends, we have all been
given a heavenly commission
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of soul winning work to be done
before the Lord's second coming
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and because of this
call upon many women's hearts
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the question of ordination
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as pastors as
occurred within the church.
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So let's conclude giving
an answer to this question
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through our together
today with Pastor Kenny Shelton.
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But before we do just that
let's turn our hearts heaven.
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Well, shall we?
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Through this song that
is entitled "Remember Me"
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and it's sung
by Sandra Entermann
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from the 3ABN Worship Centre.
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Remember me
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In a Bible cracked
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And faded by the years
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Remember me
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In a sanctuary
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Filled with silent prayers
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And age to age
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And heart to heart
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Bound by grace and peace
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Child of wonder, Child of God
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I'll remember you
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Remember me
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Remember me
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When the color of the sunset
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Fills the sky
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Remember me
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When you pray
and the tears of joy
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Fall from your eyes
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And age to age
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And heart to heart
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Bound by grace and peace
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Child of wonder, Child of God
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I'll remember you
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Remember me
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Remember me
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When the children leave
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Their Sabbath school with smiles
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Remember me
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When they're old enough to teach
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Old enough to preach
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Old enough to leave
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And age to age
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And heart to heart
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Bound by grace and peace
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Child of wonder, Child of God
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I'll remember you
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Remember me
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Age to age and heart to heart
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Child of wonder, Child of God
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Remember me
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Age to age and heart to heart
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Child of wonder, Child of God
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Remember Me
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Thanks for joining
us again. Praise God.
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Remember, subject
is Women's Ordination.
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Now this is topic
that we need to know
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what truth is, don't we?
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Even if it maybe
not be popular today
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I know as the child of God
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you want to know what
truth is and I do too.
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And you know
what once we find out
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and maybe we've made a mistake,
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we need to ask God to
forgive us and what simply what?
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Follow the Word
whatever the cost
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maybe God will
bless us if we do.
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So we're gonna continue,
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remember this is the
third part of three part series.
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And so the first two, we've
covered awful lot of material
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and if you've missed
them you want to get it.
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And on this third part here,
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we get right into
some real meed of the word.
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So if you've missed the first
two you might be little fuzzy
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but it all makes sense,
all balanced upon scripture.
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But before we get into,
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we always pray once again for
the power of the Holy Spirit.
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Would you kneel with me
some of you where you can
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and others maybe you're
going down the road of whatever
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just pray along as you can.
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Let's pray.
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Loving Father in heaven,
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we thank You for the
privilege for prayer.
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We ask now for the
power of thy Holy Spirit
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to consume each
and every one of us.
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Open our hearts and our minds
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may we see Jesus,
may we see the truth,
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maybe we'll be willing to follow
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what you have said in Your word.
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And we're going to
thank You in advance
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for that in Jesus name, amen.
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You know we have
a big question here
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and we're gonna start this
third part with a question.
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Talking about big question is,
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should women in the
church be in a teaching position
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which gives them
authority over man?
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Now again if you miss the other
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you're going kind be
a little bit confused
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but should they be--
should they be in the church
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teaching in a position where
they have authority over man.
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You've realized the
Bible really answers that.
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Touchy, touchy, touchy
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and lot of people don't want to
approach it and they try to say
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"well, we're
looking down and you try."
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We want to know
what God's word says.
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So why don't we
just way it out today.
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Now what kind of
teaching we're talking about?
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We're talking about
the authoritative teaching
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that an elder or a
pastor should be doing.
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And then you know and again
we've mentioned several times,
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it has nothing to
do with the ability.
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It has nothing to
do with say with brain.
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It has to do with education.
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It has nothing to do how great,
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how qualified that a
women maybe, individual maybe.
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Paul's instruction
is very, very clear
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we either follow it or
we make excuses for it.
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We follow it and here's
what he said to Timothy.
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He said to Timothy, "He
prohibited a woman to teach,
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or to have
authority over the man."
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Heard an awful lot of
excuses over the years
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and just say "well,
he didn't mean that."
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Yeah.
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Well, if you say
that I might be--
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I'll pick a few other things
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and say "well, I think
that he really meant that."
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Paul said he
didn't want women to teach
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or to have in a
teaching position
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that has authority over men.
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Didn't say they couldn't
teach the authority over man.
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This then by itself
as 1 Timothy 1:3 says
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absolutely rules out a woman
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from being a pastor
or the overseer of man.
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Kind of
interesting thought isn't it.
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Some of you bring up
say yeah, but you remember
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Aquila and Priscilla you know
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and in their home
church and things were going.
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Yeah, we might be just
be really be honest here.
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Do you remember Paul?
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Paul spends some time, he was
in Ephesus, he was in Corinth.
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He was in different
times at different places
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and when he traveled he
stayed in people's houses.
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He became acquainted
with well educated women,
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women who ran businesses,
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women who owned
businesses, women in authority.
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Interesting, he even
stayed in their house
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but this was still what he said.
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He said he stepped off
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that a woman should
not teach in a capacity
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that would have
authority over a man.
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That will be hard
to do, wouldn't it.
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But I'm real good
friends with everybody
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unless it's a
truth of God's word
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and then we all have to
bow to there or we should.
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Interesting--what
was some of the reasons
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or let's say one of
the reasons right now
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we'll hit it two or
three times as we go on
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or principle of his position.
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Why would he take this position
which is so controversial?
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Why?
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Well, Paul uses to
say 1 Timothy 2:13 he said
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"Adam was first formed"
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notice this "formed
first and then Eve."
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So Adam then had to
responsibility of leadership.
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He had headship.
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He was the first
born in the family.
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You can read about
Christ being the first born
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in 1 Corinthians or 1
Colossians 1:15-18 I believe.
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Take time to read it.
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It refers to
Christ as the first born.
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And you know He was
before all and in all.
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But as Paul is
talking about here,
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some people are challenged.
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I mean, they're
really challenged
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with the teachings of Paul
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but my question would be
are we wiling to accept them
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as we see that they
are the truth of God's word
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regards that what
we might want to be
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or you know our
position right now.
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Are we willing to
follow God's word,
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that's always the big question?
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Are we willing to follow
from a biblical standpoint?
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And if we do, we
know that its Paul taught
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they should be
under the leadership
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or the woman should
be under the headship
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of a man called into office.
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You know, calling the
pastor and elder of the church.
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Bible clearly, clearly
teaches that a man as what?
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As head as leadership
role is to be like Christ.
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Boy, what a
challenge to be like Christ.
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The spiritual leader not
only probably in the church
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but also in the home.
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Interesting and
notice this some of you go
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just raise right off the couch
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but realize that Bible
is very clear the women
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is to be in a submissive,
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supporting, assisting help meed,
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to the man in
the leadership role.
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That's what the Bible
talks about, isn't it?
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Yeah, we have to
line up with the word.
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Now we talk
about the female role,
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you know, it
doesn't mean that a woman
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just you know has to
completely just bow to the man
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and you know she loses
her, your individuality.
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That's not what
he's talking about here
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or a conscience to the man.
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Her first obligation is to God.
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Notice this, her service is to
her husband, very interesting.
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Because what, because
this is fit in the Lord
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as it would be fit in the Lord.
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And notice only those
women in that's fit in the Lord
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that would be have
relationship with God
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will be able to give
this kind of submission.
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You have to have
relationship with God.
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Not I want, I
think or it should be.
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I'm sure at this point
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some of you are
gonna say "oh wow, wow."
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Well, "oh I have got."
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They'll say I-- and
they use this all the time.
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Well, what about Deborah
and Huldah, what about them?
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It's very interesting
first of all they were prophets.
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We should never
entertain shame on you,
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shame on me or anybody else
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when you're
talking about ordination
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of an elder or a pastor
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and then you
bring in and compare it
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with the office of a prophet.
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That will be like
comparing they say,
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you know, got to
have apples over here
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and somebody has got oranges
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and you're trying to
make them the same thing.
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First of all we
should never do it.
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But since some of you do
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let's talk about it
in just a little bit.
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Remember, we cannot
we must not be confused
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the office a
prophet cannot be confused
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with the office of
a pastor or an elder
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who they're actually in service.
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They're in
elected leadership role
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but you know in the Bible
the prophet was called of what,
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called and chosen of God.
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Even in the Old
Testament you'll find the Kings,
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you'll find the
Judges, you'll find that priest
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were all subject to the prophets
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that's what the
Bible said isn't it.
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Let's make a
comparisons can we do that?
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Since some of you, since
some of you used Deborah.
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And again we should not do that
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because there is a prophet
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and we're
talking about ordination
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of elders and pastors.
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They're not prophets,
that's a different position
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but since some of you use
that let's look at that quickly.
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Since, Deborah is
used by some as proof
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for women's ordination
as an elder or a pastor.
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Maybe the closest comparisons
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would be that of Ellen G
White, may not be so bold.
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First of all
let's do a few things.
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First of all Ellen
White she never claimed
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to be a leader of the church.
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She was never
ordained by the denomination.
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Number three,
she never performed
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the duties of an
ordained minister.
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Wow, now as we look at these
things and the Bible teaches,
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we have to pay
close attention to it.
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But remember again,
Deborah a prophet a judge,
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she was called to lead Israel
there's no doubt about it.
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But let me say
this, Debra was called
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to lead Israel in the
absence of a capable man.
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I know you don't want to hear it
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but that's to
read Judges Chapter 4.
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See the Judges of Israel
always led the army into battle.
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Interesting, the judges always
right there who are in charge
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always led the army
of Israel into battle.
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But here, you
know, the God said that
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"Barak was to lead the army."
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Read that in verse
6 and 7 of Judges 4.
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But interesting he
went Deborah and he said
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"ah, if you don't go
with me I'm not going to go."
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How sad that is.
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Here again this just kind of
builds up what I'm talking here
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because Signs of the
Times in June 16, 1881
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talks about this reference.
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Notice this "Although
he had been designated
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by the Lord himself as the
one chosen to deliver Israel,
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and had received the assurance
of God would go with him
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and subdue their enemies, yet
he was timid and distrustful."
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See, she didn't
go lead the armies,
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all of the judges
but they always went.
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But now God called
right another man to go
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and lead the army into victory
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and because he was
distrustful of himself
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he was timid and shy,
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Judges 4:16 says
Israel pursued the enemy
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and there it was not a man left.
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Now keep on this
it's very, very important.
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Although the enemy
the enemy was route,
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the God still blessed
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but notice there was
one man that was left.
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And he ran and he hid,
you can read all of that--
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the account of it
we don't have time
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to go into everything.
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He ran and hid at the tent
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and then finally he was came
to life that he was an enemy
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and another woman Jael
she end up taking his life
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when she find
out he was an enemy.
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And so the battle didn't go
to the, you know, the glory.
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They say the
battle didn't go to a man.
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It did not go to
Deborah it went to the woman
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who had killed the enemy.
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Interesting, Judges
4 read that 9:17-25.
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See this example
helps me to understand
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or help that a man
sometime refuses to lead.
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He refuses to do that
role that God has put him into.
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And when he refuses and
there is no one there to do it
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there is need for
someone to step up.
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And many times he has used a
woman to do that like Deborah.
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Now remember in
the absence of what?
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A capable man.
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Now you'll say well,
what about the New Testament.
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Well, in Acts Chapter
15, the New Testament church
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they faced all kind of issues.
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They face theological issues
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which must be
settled by the Word of God.
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So you were looking at a
theological issue right now
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and it has to be settled by
what, by the Word of God here.
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It's not a certain little group,
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it's not a group
over here it says
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"we can settle because
it's a theological issue"
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or group who
gets together and say
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"well, I think we all do it
this is best for the church,
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this is best for
this group over here."
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What does God's word
have to say about it?
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Not a group who
just wants the issue
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to be you know carried
it out in a certain way.
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No not given to
the hands of a group
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who is willing to
compromise the truth away
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just to get it
resolved to keep down the--
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you know uneasiness.
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Not just someone
just says you know
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this would be
good in this country
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and this would be over here.
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The Word of God is
uniformed it's around the world
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and we all to
need to come in unity
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and harmony of the Word of God.
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So what did the New Testament do
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when they'd the
theological crisis
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just like we have
in many areas today?
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What did they do?
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Well, first of all
the meeting was called.
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If so praise God
that's what we do.
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Delegates from all
over that were called in.
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They came together, they came
for a discussion of the issue.
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And wouldn't it be nice today
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if we follow the counsel
given in the Word of God.
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And you know what was that--
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that's what we do we
have theological crisis
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we call different people in.
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It's interesting but
many times it's difficult
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because some people
already have their mind made up.
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Oh, we went so far that
we're afraid to go backwards now
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and to admit that
we made a mistake.
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Would it better to admit that
and turn and like God blesses?
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I think so.
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Let's go and we might
look at the end of the day
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we might hear this.
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And I think I
have this a few times.
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Have the meeting people
come together and talk about it
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and the people in
charge will meet together
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and say we just
had a good meeting,
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it was nice that
people voiced their opinion
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but you know what,
no changes took place.
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We cannot overlook
and once again the office
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of an elder or a
pastor, the ordination.
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Here is what it says remember
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they must be the
husband of one wife.
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Now that's just
doesn't eliminate a women
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for being ordained
as an elder or pastor.
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I don't know what?
How can we throw that out?
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I'm not trying to be cruel,
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not trying to be
ugly on the issue.
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I'm not-- but how is it that
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when we want something to
take place we throw things out.
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An elder and pastor
must be the husband.
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So ladies, unless you can
be the husband you disqualified
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that's what the Bible says.
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You know I have heard many
people give a lot of reasons
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for things that I
have just talked about here
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and you know well,
this is what it means
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and this is, you
know, let me just say bold
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it means exactly what it says.
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That's exactly what it means.
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Yeah, it's up to us to have
the relationship with Christ
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that we are willing to follow
that even if our hearts desire
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maybe something else, we need
to pray the God will help us.
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We should not try to
change the Word of God.
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We're not different
than lot of the other people
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we say in lot of
churches in different thing.
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Oh, they're changing
the word to suit theirs.
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We do not want to be known by
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well, we're gonna change it
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to suit what we want to
see happen in our movement.
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Remember-- remember, this
when the meetings were finished
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that we were talking about
in the New Testament church,
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you know nothing was voted on
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just because there was
a need in the certain area
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or they wanted to vote
because they just wanted to vote
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and get it over with
00:22:22.56\00:22:23.59
and just then no one
else to fill the office
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or they just put
somebody in there.
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The voting ended,
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and it became binding
listen, on all churches.
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Well, the New Testament
leadership came together
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theological issues, when
they got done they voted on it
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and that's what they
carried out in every church.
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But sometime we say well, this
group can do this in this area.
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Oh, this group can do
this in this other area.
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And some of you
can't do it at all
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and you can only go
this far and not the other.
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See that's not scriptural
that's not biblical at all.
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Now let's go into look, let's
look and I'm afraid to this.
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I'm really
afraid that many people
00:23:00.66\00:23:02.50
they don't want
to as they say backup
00:23:02.53\00:23:05.08
they want to look
at it straight forward.
00:23:05.11\00:23:08.44
We can only pray
as we see these two,
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why, because
the blessings of God
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can only be gift to
a people to a church
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and a movement
that follows His word
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regardless, if there
is some people upset.
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We got to follow God's word.
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You want people upset
you want God upset with us?
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Now I know you, you want,
we want the blessings of God.
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Some of you gonna say well,
00:23:27.50\00:23:28.53
look you know
this issue right here
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was different
before sin entered in
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and now after sin
they've ever lived.
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Let me let's just clarify
that shall we clarify that.
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God established before the fall
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that Adam right,
he was the principle
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or he was the male,
he was the headship,
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he was the leader.
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That was the principle, before
the fall Adam was the head.
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Paul writes this
in 1 Corinthians 11:3
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he said "But I would
have you know that the head"
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listen "of every man is Christ."
00:24:00.91\00:24:03.66
Now if you think
it's gonna get easier
00:24:03.69\00:24:04.98
as we go along
bless your heart its not.
00:24:05.01\00:24:07.04
If you're in opposition,
00:24:07.07\00:24:09.44
you know, we have a
lot of people in opposition
00:24:09.47\00:24:11.60
to what is true
but please don't be.
00:24:11.63\00:24:14.17
You have an argument you
argue with the Holy Spirit,
00:24:14.20\00:24:16.27
argue with the word if you
think you ought to do that.
00:24:16.30\00:24:18.67
I don't think you should.
00:24:18.70\00:24:20.04
Let's just accept it.
Here's what Paul said.
00:24:20.07\00:24:22.32
"But I would have you know that
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the head of
every man is Christ."
00:24:23.97\00:24:25.47
Praise God.
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Listen, "and the head
of the woman is the man
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and the head of Christ is God."
00:24:31.71\00:24:33.94
Now notice how he continues
on in 2 Timothy 2:12, 13, 14.
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It simply says this
"that a woman is not to" what?
00:24:39.99\00:24:45.35
"Usurp authority over the man."
00:24:45.38\00:24:48.37
So she is not to be
in a capacity that what,
00:24:48.40\00:24:50.96
that puts her over the man.
00:24:50.99\00:24:52.65
We're talking about in the home
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we're talking
about in the church.
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Read verse 13 he says once again
00:24:56.08\00:24:58.61
"For Adam was
first formed, then Eve."
00:24:58.64\00:25:01.75
Verse 14 he said
"Adam was not deceived,
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but the woman being deceived
was in the transgression."
00:25:05.05\00:25:09.43
There is a reason why God chose,
00:25:09.46\00:25:11.78
He set it up and
put man as the head
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in the home and in the church.
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And he should
not be in submissive
00:25:17.31\00:25:18.59
as it were to some of the women
in leadership in the church.
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He is the head, leadership role.
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Now notice this.
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You need to
listen to this quote.
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Patriarchs and
Prophets, page 58.
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This really begins to hit home
if you think about this word.
00:25:32.17\00:25:36.22
"Eve was told of
the sorrow and the pain
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that must
henceforth be her portion."
00:25:39.46\00:25:43.08
And the Lord said this
call is in Genesis 3:16.
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It says "now he
said because sin."
00:25:46.53\00:25:48.88
Now before sin what
Adam was still ahead,
00:25:48.91\00:25:51.44
now sin has come in
00:25:51.47\00:25:53.27
and then God says to Eve now
this is going pain and sorrow,
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childbirth, this is
gonna be your portion.
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Now He said "Thy desire
shall be to thy husband,
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and he shall rule over thee."
00:26:02.85\00:26:05.47
And no don't get
all excited about.
00:26:05.50\00:26:07.27
Somebody would say yeah
get all flush, don't listen.
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That's what the Bible says.
00:26:10.39\00:26:12.69
But we need to look at
and we want to balance it out
00:26:12.72\00:26:14.73
the way it should be
here if you give enough time
00:26:14.76\00:26:16.72
and listen and
not close your ears.
00:26:16.75\00:26:18.84
The word rule you look at in
the Hebrew right here it says
00:26:18.87\00:26:22.59
it's gonna have dominion
over, he's going to govern over,
00:26:22.62\00:26:25.32
he's going to rule over.
00:26:25.35\00:26:26.45
That's what it really means.
00:26:26.48\00:26:28.59
"Thy desire will be to
thy husband" that means,
00:26:28.62\00:26:31.79
I-- this right here
that word desire means,
00:26:31.82\00:26:33.57
I'm-- she is
always going to be looking
00:26:33.60\00:26:35.93
to her husband for guidance.
00:26:35.96\00:26:38.19
She's going to
stretch out often after him.
00:26:38.22\00:26:43.68
That's way the God set it up.
00:26:43.71\00:26:46.16
In the beginning they were what?
00:26:46.19\00:26:47.75
Certainly equal but sin came in.
00:26:47.78\00:26:49.84
Man, did that
change things? Absolutely.
00:26:49.87\00:26:53.50
Reading on notice this,
00:26:53.53\00:26:55.29
"In creation God had
made her the equal of Adam."
00:26:55.32\00:27:00.22
See, lot of people
trying to say oh, I still--
00:27:00.25\00:27:02.77
doesn't mean one's
any better than the other
00:27:02.80\00:27:04.58
but remember there is
headship there is leadership.
00:27:04.61\00:27:07.59
God had designed it such.
00:27:07.62\00:27:09.72
"In the beginning He
made her equal of Adam.
00:27:09.75\00:27:12.34
Had they
remained obedient to God"
00:27:12.37\00:27:16.15
listen "in harmony
with His great law of love,
00:27:16.18\00:27:19.99
they would have ever been
in harmony with each other."
00:27:20.02\00:27:24.39
Have you ever found two people?
00:27:24.42\00:27:25.45
Well, I don't
want to spend much time
00:27:25.48\00:27:26.51
go we not gonna little cover,
00:27:26.54\00:27:27.89
we're not gonna cover
all this, Lord help us.
00:27:27.92\00:27:30.03
We see it right here.
00:27:30.06\00:27:31.09
That what happened is,
00:27:31.12\00:27:32.15
if they stayed obedient to God
00:27:32.18\00:27:33.95
they were always been
in harmony with each other.
00:27:33.98\00:27:36.00
But when sin came in
it changed everything.
00:27:36.03\00:27:39.42
Have you ever find
two people who worked to
00:27:39.45\00:27:41.24
you know they have
the kind of same mind
00:27:41.27\00:27:42.90
we call them sometime hardheads.
00:27:42.93\00:27:44.92
You can't get past it.
00:27:44.95\00:27:46.69
You can't any so God said,
00:27:46.72\00:27:49.22
I'm-- He is gonna designate one
as leader over the other now,
00:27:49.25\00:27:52.81
headship because
of the sin issue,
00:27:52.84\00:27:55.18
because they could never
get along on that same plain.
00:27:55.21\00:27:58.17
Now notice how it says.
00:27:58.20\00:27:59.74
"They would ever been
harmony with each other
00:27:59.77\00:28:01.69
but sin had brought discord"
00:28:01.72\00:28:04.65
listen, "and union
could only" union between who?
00:28:04.68\00:28:09.46
Man and woman,
"could be maintained
00:28:09.49\00:28:11.65
and harmony preserved
00:28:11.68\00:28:14.01
only by the submission on
the part of one to the other."
00:28:14.04\00:28:19.03
Now why, why always
say, why poor Eve why?
00:28:19.06\00:28:22.45
"Eve had been the
first in transgression.
00:28:22.48\00:28:25.20
She had fallen into temptation."
00:28:25.23\00:28:27.39
Notice, people always
say yeah, but she went.
00:28:27.42\00:28:30.20
Listen, where was
her first problem?
00:28:30.23\00:28:32.26
Please read, the
article is very clear
00:28:32.29\00:28:34.07
"by separating
from her companion,
00:28:34.10\00:28:37.37
contrary to the
divine direction."
00:28:37.40\00:28:40.93
Notice article goes on.
00:28:40.96\00:28:42.79
It was now listen
here's the problem.
00:28:42.82\00:28:45.29
"It was by her solicitude"
right "that Adam sinned."
00:28:45.32\00:28:49.80
She went to her
husband and told him about it.
00:28:49.83\00:28:51.95
And what she solicit.
00:28:51.98\00:28:53.24
She was accountable for that.
00:28:53.27\00:28:54.41
She was tempted, she failed.
00:28:54.44\00:28:55.91
She was the
first in transgression.
00:28:55.94\00:28:57.75
Harmony could not be maintained
00:28:57.78\00:29:00.23
unless God had set it up now
that the man should rule over.
00:29:00.26\00:29:03.79
We're talking about
in the Christ like way.
00:29:03.82\00:29:05.55
Notice, now notice this,
now why because sin came in.
00:29:05.58\00:29:10.25
Now, "she was placed in
subjection to her husband."
00:29:10.28\00:29:15.93
Sin issue, now this next part
00:29:15.96\00:29:18.20
it's not any
lighter and it gets heavy.
00:29:18.23\00:29:21.61
It goes on it says "Eve
had been perfectly happy."
00:29:21.64\00:29:25.65
See, we find a lot of
Eves in the world today
00:29:25.68\00:29:27.61
they seemed to be but they're
not happy in their position
00:29:27.64\00:29:30.10
and they're looking
for other positions.
00:29:30.13\00:29:32.00
You see it more
and more and more.
00:29:32.03\00:29:33.25
But God has a
position for every one of us
00:29:33.28\00:29:35.00
and place to feel
and we need to feel
00:29:35.03\00:29:36.95
what He you plan He has for us.
00:29:36.98\00:29:39.94
"Eve had been perfectly
happy by her husband's side
00:29:39.97\00:29:44.05
even in Eden home but,"
00:29:44.08\00:29:47.36
listen this "like
modern Eve's, she was flattered
00:29:47.39\00:29:52.73
with the hope of
entering into a higher sphere"
00:29:52.76\00:29:55.98
listen, "entering
into a higher sphere
00:29:56.01\00:29:58.89
than God had assigned her.
00:29:58.92\00:30:03.52
In attempting to rise
above her original position,
00:30:03.55\00:30:09.29
she failed far below it.
00:30:09.32\00:30:13.80
A similar result
will be reached by all
00:30:13.83\00:30:17.31
who unwilling to take
cheerfully their duties
00:30:17.34\00:30:21.42
in accordance with God's plan.
00:30:21.45\00:30:24.33
In their efforts to
reach notice to this
00:30:24.36\00:30:26.32
"in their efforts
to reach a position
00:30:26.35\00:30:28.45
for which He had not
fitted them, many are" what?
00:30:28.48\00:30:33.26
"Leaving vacant the place
00:30:33.29\00:30:35.43
where they might
have been a blessing."
00:30:35.46\00:30:37.79
You think God
doesn't have place,
00:30:37.82\00:30:39.11
you think God hasn't designed,
you think God doesn't know.
00:30:39.14\00:30:41.35
Sure He does.
00:30:41.38\00:30:43.79
Because they want to
reach something higher
00:30:43.82\00:30:45.62
a plain, a plateau
that God has never set,
00:30:45.65\00:30:48.15
that's what He
wanted them to do.
00:30:48.18\00:30:50.68
So by searching
scriptures it becomes clear
00:30:50.71\00:30:52.87
that a male is to be the leader,
00:30:52.90\00:30:55.52
he is to be the
head of the family
00:30:55.55\00:30:57.73
and head of the church,
00:30:57.76\00:30:59.48
the female is to
be a supporting role.
00:30:59.51\00:31:02.29
The Bible says "a helpmeet."
00:31:02.32\00:31:05.91
Two points, God
established this arrangement
00:31:05.94\00:31:09.25
but remember what He
established this arrangement
00:31:09.28\00:31:12.58
because so many
people will fight.
00:31:12.61\00:31:13.91
So many things I'm
talking about there,
00:31:13.94\00:31:15.25
these are points on which
people are fighting today.
00:31:15.28\00:31:17.32
God established this arrangement
00:31:17.35\00:31:19.27
before the fall of man.
00:31:19.30\00:31:22.53
And then after the fall
of man He reiterated it.
00:31:22.56\00:31:25.91
He repeated it again.
00:31:25.94\00:31:28.93
Notice a few important
points of leadership role
00:31:28.96\00:31:33.13
that God assigned
to man at creation.
00:31:33.16\00:31:36.00
Please just
balance it out with me.
00:31:36.03\00:31:37.58
I'm not trying
to pick on the women
00:31:37.61\00:31:38.74
and I'm not trying to but
its not a downplay at all.
00:31:38.77\00:31:40.62
God has assigned you a
role, He has assigned me a role,
00:31:40.65\00:31:42.55
everybody a role we
need to fulfill that
00:31:42.58\00:31:44.97
or it's gonna be
something that's gonna be left.
00:31:45.00\00:31:46.93
We're trying to-- no we
don't want to reach out that.
00:31:46.96\00:31:48.82
We don't want that
"oh we're doing something
00:31:48.85\00:31:50.47
we're not supposed to be doing."
00:31:50.50\00:31:52.46
Who did God created first?
00:31:52.49\00:31:54.64
This is the first, who
did, we talked about it.
00:31:54.67\00:31:56.65
He created Adam.
00:31:56.68\00:31:58.76
Paul uses this
again when he says
00:31:58.79\00:32:01.41
"I do not permit woman to teach
or to have authority over man."
00:32:01.44\00:32:07.01
It's interesting we always
say "oh, Paul, what man of God.
00:32:07.04\00:32:08.89
What a man of God?"
00:32:08.92\00:32:09.95
There is something we
read and we do want to hear it.
00:32:09.98\00:32:11.39
Oh, my, he sure messed up there.
00:32:11.42\00:32:13.35
He didn't really
mean what he said.
00:32:13.38\00:32:15.19
You know better than that.
00:32:15.22\00:32:17.12
There has to be an
explanation for why he said,
00:32:17.15\00:32:19.27
what he said so clear, so
plain and we need to follow.
00:32:19.30\00:32:22.23
1 Timothy 2:12-13
00:32:22.26\00:32:24.80
we talked a little bit about it.
00:32:24.83\00:32:26.07
He said once again
"Adam was first formed"
00:32:26.10\00:32:29.59
right first "and then Eve."
00:32:29.62\00:32:31.86
Adam was the first
born let's go over it again.
00:32:31.89\00:32:34.39
"He must accept
the responsibility
00:32:34.42\00:32:36.54
and leadership
both in the family
00:32:36.57\00:32:38.64
and in the church."
00:32:38.67\00:32:40.94
Point 2, in Genesis 2:15-17,
God gave Adam responsibility.
00:32:40.97\00:32:46.72
Listen He gave
Adam responsibility
00:32:46.75\00:32:49.50
of keeping the garden.
00:32:49.53\00:32:52.74
And then he told Adam
00:32:52.77\00:32:54.13
then there about
the tree as a test.
00:32:54.16\00:32:58.59
Adam was given, listen carefully
00:32:58.62\00:33:00.55
the spiritual
role in the garden.
00:33:00.58\00:33:03.89
He was given the spiritual role.
00:33:03.92\00:33:06.20
Listen, the enemy knew this.
00:33:06.23\00:33:09.83
The enemy knew this,
00:33:09.86\00:33:11.62
he knew Adam was
the spiritual leader
00:33:11.65\00:33:14.89
but you know what, so
what did the enemy do?
00:33:14.92\00:33:17.18
He attacked and challenged Eve.
00:33:17.21\00:33:21.27
Interesting, not the
spiritual leader but Eve.
00:33:21.30\00:33:26.23
The enemy speaks to
Eve rather than to Adam.
00:33:26.26\00:33:31.35
And then I will say
again, who disobeyed first?
00:33:31.38\00:33:33.77
Well, it was Eve.
00:33:33.80\00:33:35.74
Now but still what,
00:33:35.77\00:33:39.44
still proving Adam
was still the leader
00:33:39.47\00:33:41.42
both in the home and
in the spiritual lives.
00:33:41.45\00:33:45.22
Another thought listen,
"who did after sin took place,
00:33:45.25\00:33:50.07
who did God call out
by name after the fall."
00:33:50.10\00:33:56.01
Come on, somebody
think with me, who did--
00:33:56.04\00:33:57.75
other words who was God
00:33:57.78\00:33:59.70
as it were number one
holding responsibility--
00:33:59.73\00:34:02.16
given the responsibility
to after the fall.
00:34:02.19\00:34:06.28
In Genesis 3:9-12
Adam was held accountable
00:34:06.31\00:34:10.85
for what Eve had done
and of course, what he did.
00:34:10.88\00:34:17.74
God said be listen "Adam
because thou has harkened
00:34:17.77\00:34:22.27
to the voice of thy wife."
00:34:22.30\00:34:26.63
See God wouldn't have
handled this situation like this
00:34:26.66\00:34:30.23
if Adam was not already
given the headship role.
00:34:30.26\00:34:35.40
Adam was a representative
of the human family.
00:34:35.43\00:34:39.48
And notice this in the marriage
00:34:39.51\00:34:41.84
notice that what is Bible says.
00:34:41.87\00:34:45.16
That a man must
leave his father and mother
00:34:45.19\00:34:49.69
and certainly
unite with his wife.
00:34:49.72\00:34:52.36
Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:4, 5.
00:34:52.39\00:34:56.71
See the women's
role the Bible is clear
00:34:56.74\00:34:58.47
"as to be a helpmeet
00:34:58.50\00:35:00.32
to compliment her
husband in his work."
00:35:00.35\00:35:04.28
Genesis 2:18 and the
verses 23 through 24.
00:35:04.31\00:35:09.91
"And then God charges
man with a responsibility."
00:35:09.94\00:35:13.39
See after this
then "God charges man
00:35:13.42\00:35:15.69
with responsibility
to love and cherish
00:35:15.72\00:35:18.29
and take care of his wife."
00:35:18.32\00:35:20.58
Ephesians 5:25
in verses 28 and 31,
00:35:20.61\00:35:24.85
1 Peter 3:7, 1
Timothy 3:4 and Titus 1:6.
00:35:24.88\00:35:30.34
Now listen here's the thought.
00:35:30.37\00:35:32.40
When the enemy spoke to Eve
00:35:32.43\00:35:36.00
he was challenging God himself.
00:35:36.03\00:35:40.60
He was
challenging God's headship.
00:35:40.63\00:35:44.01
He was
challenging the role of man.
00:35:44.04\00:35:48.54
And now Eve, notice, the abode
do we see it happening today.
00:35:48.57\00:35:53.38
And when Eve assumed a
position that was not hers,
00:35:53.41\00:35:58.48
look what happened to her,
the human race and the world.
00:35:58.51\00:36:03.24
Look, what happened
to them immediately.
00:36:03.27\00:36:06.82
Listen, what
happened to them immediately?
00:36:06.85\00:36:08.72
Immediately they
turned on each other,
00:36:08.75\00:36:11.48
immediately blaming each other
00:36:11.51\00:36:13.90
the Bible says in Genesis 3:12,
00:36:13.93\00:36:17.17
male, female roles were reversed
00:36:17.20\00:36:22.82
as sin entered in.
00:36:22.85\00:36:25.36
Don't we see that
today? Don't we see that today?
00:36:25.39\00:36:28.29
I'm not trying to be critical
or condemning but you know
00:36:28.32\00:36:31.21
man stays home and
takes care of the kids
00:36:31.24\00:36:33.53
and mama goes to work.
00:36:33.56\00:36:35.61
That it may not be helpful
what the situations right,
00:36:35.64\00:36:38.20
but let-- don't
reverse the roles.
00:36:38.23\00:36:40.90
God said "man will work six days
00:36:40.93\00:36:43.03
by the sweat of his grout.
00:36:43.06\00:36:44.77
Women would bare
children take care of the home
00:36:44.80\00:36:46.59
as her first responsibility."
00:36:46.62\00:36:48.17
That because of sin
roles were reversed.
00:36:48.20\00:36:53.34
She became the
spokesman, interesting.
00:36:53.37\00:36:58.95
But Bible says what
women is to submit herself
00:36:58.98\00:37:02.05
to her husband thy desire.
00:37:02.08\00:37:05.09
Remember Genesis 3:16
and we talked about here
00:37:05.12\00:37:07.29
"Thy desire
shall be to thy husband
00:37:07.32\00:37:09.37
and he shall rule over thee."
00:37:09.40\00:37:11.56
Keep this in mind
please Spirit of Prophecy
00:37:11.59\00:37:14.13
recognizes these
principles, stay with me.
00:37:14.16\00:37:17.45
Even people have used
this well, but now listen
00:37:17.48\00:37:20.42
things have changed now.
00:37:20.45\00:37:21.54
Oh, really?
00:37:21.57\00:37:23.11
We started before the
fall and then go after the fall
00:37:23.14\00:37:25.64
and now you'll say "oh,
yeah, but in the New Testament."
00:37:25.67\00:37:27.73
Now remember the
things after the death
00:37:27.76\00:37:30.78
and resurrection of
Christ things changed.
00:37:30.81\00:37:33.97
Really, listen
to this Testimonies,
00:37:34.00\00:37:36.67
listen, on
Sexual Behavior page 28.
00:37:36.70\00:37:39.87
This is heavy, "We
women must remember
00:37:39.90\00:37:46.52
that God has placed us
subject to the husband.
00:37:46.55\00:37:51.67
He is the head, our
judgment and our views
00:37:51.70\00:37:57.55
and our reasoning must
agree with his, if possible."
00:37:57.58\00:38:04.92
Now wait a minute,
00:38:04.95\00:38:07.34
if not we can't come
to an agreement here.
00:38:07.37\00:38:10.45
Now we're gonna get
clear on this subject.
00:38:10.48\00:38:11.94
We're not talking about
just any man who thinks he is--
00:38:11.97\00:38:13.88
you know he's a
ruler of the house
00:38:13.91\00:38:15.20
and he doesn't know
God not talking about you.
00:38:15.23\00:38:18.83
We're talking about man
00:38:18.86\00:38:19.89
who says he's a
Christian, man here.
00:38:19.92\00:38:20.95
But listen, okay, there's
err we just can't get along,
00:38:20.98\00:38:23.65
we can't agree.
00:38:23.68\00:38:25.48
Spirit of Prophecy says this
00:38:25.51\00:38:26.66
"If not, the
preference in God's Word
00:38:26.69\00:38:31.22
is given to the husband
00:38:31.25\00:38:34.31
where it is not a
matter of conscience."
00:38:34.34\00:38:38.24
If your husband doesn't
make you go against thus sayeth
00:38:38.27\00:38:40.74
the Lord then it says we
is to agree with our husband.
00:38:40.77\00:38:44.72
Notice this she says "We" women
00:38:44.75\00:38:48.50
"must yield to the head."
00:38:48.53\00:38:52.31
Wow, that must be hard, that
must maybe hard to write down,
00:38:52.34\00:38:55.89
maybe hard to swallow
today but listen once more
00:38:55.92\00:38:58.48
1 Testimonies 307, "The husband
is the head of the family,
00:38:58.51\00:39:03.32
as Christ is the head
of the church any course"
00:39:03.35\00:39:07.82
listen carefully "any
course which the wife may pursue
00:39:07.85\00:39:11.85
to lessen his influence to lead
him down from his dignified,
00:39:11.88\00:39:17.56
responsible position
is displeasing to God."
00:39:17.59\00:39:22.17
And interesting and for
those who use Galatians 3:28
00:39:22.20\00:39:26.28
where it says "O it's
neither male nor female."
00:39:26.31\00:39:30.12
This statement can be
used to indicate anything.
00:39:30.15\00:39:33.64
It indicates that
homosexuality is acceptable
00:39:33.67\00:39:35.87
some people will say I
don't need male and female.
00:39:35.90\00:39:38.84
You can't say
homosexuality then its right,
00:39:38.87\00:39:40.81
then it's acceptable.
00:39:40.84\00:39:44.98
So it really can't be used to
do away with what, God's plan.
00:39:45.01\00:39:49.54
There are
different roles of the women
00:39:49.57\00:39:51.69
and different roles of the man.
00:39:51.72\00:39:53.56
Remember, women
that it's the equality
00:39:53.59\00:39:57.47
between a man and a
woman, male and female
00:39:57.50\00:40:01.13
but what the male is
the head, he is responsible,
00:40:01.16\00:40:05.22
he is the leader of the family
and in the church in the Lord.
00:40:05.25\00:40:09.47
Now notice this with me.
00:40:09.50\00:40:10.53
Listen, now
Adventist Home page 117.
00:40:10.56\00:40:13.05
Here's for all of you
man who jumping up and down
00:40:13.08\00:40:14.72
clapping your hands
don't be it too soon.
00:40:14.75\00:40:17.10
If you're not in the
Lord you're not serving Him
00:40:17.13\00:40:18.90
then you don't qualify.
00:40:18.93\00:40:20.18
Is it okay, to say
that I think it is?
00:40:20.21\00:40:22.89
Because I hear a
lot of people say that
00:40:22.92\00:40:24.17
they're not Christians,
00:40:24.20\00:40:25.23
they're not using the
Bible as a rule of thumb.
00:40:25.26\00:40:26.84
They try to rule the
wife and load it over her
00:40:26.87\00:40:29.32
you have no right to do that
00:40:29.35\00:40:30.44
because you don't have
to judgment the Word of God.
00:40:30.47\00:40:32.47
Listen what the
Adventist Home, 117 says.
00:40:32.50\00:40:35.05
"You cannot",
talking about the man,
00:40:35.08\00:40:36.69
"you cannot claim this
role if you're not in the Lord.
00:40:36.72\00:40:42.01
It was not the design
of God that the husband
00:40:42.04\00:40:45.02
should have control, as head"
00:40:45.05\00:40:47.27
listen "over the house
00:40:47.30\00:40:49.88
when he himself does
not submit to Christ."
00:40:49.91\00:40:54.53
So if he submits to
Christ little different issue,
00:40:54.56\00:40:57.46
if he doesn't submit to Christ
he can't fulfill that role,
00:40:57.49\00:40:59.70
then can he.
00:40:59.73\00:41:01.08
Now notice this, "He must
be under the rule of Christ
00:41:01.11\00:41:05.43
that he may represent
the relationship of Christ
00:41:05.46\00:41:09.02
to the church."
00:41:09.05\00:41:10.08
Now listen as this goes, listen.
00:41:10.11\00:41:13.72
Now somebody would say well
in my house we all go to church
00:41:13.75\00:41:15.85
but you know
here, and listen this.
00:41:15.88\00:41:17.82
"Unless he is coarse,
rough, boisterous, egotistical,
00:41:17.85\00:41:24.55
harsh, overbearing man,
let him never utter the words
00:41:24.58\00:41:31.78
that the husband is
the head of the wife."
00:41:31.81\00:41:34.22
So if you're one of
those harsh, rough, boisterous,
00:41:34.25\00:41:36.58
egotistical,
harsh, overbearing man
00:41:36.61\00:41:38.75
never ever utter
those words to your wife.
00:41:38.78\00:41:43.69
That well, I'm the
husband I'm head of the wife.
00:41:43.72\00:41:47.96
And then notice
this so let's get pretty
00:41:47.99\00:41:50.08
we have to look at it closely.
00:41:50.11\00:41:51.75
"And that she must
submit to him in everything."
00:41:51.78\00:41:55.93
But notice this,
"for he is not the Lord,
00:41:55.96\00:41:59.60
he is not the husband
00:41:59.63\00:42:01.60
in the true
significance of the term."
00:42:01.63\00:42:05.77
I didn't say you can't
you know can't work along with
00:42:05.80\00:42:09.12
and be the helpmeet with
and can't agree and get along.
00:42:09.15\00:42:12.72
But she says you
don't have to do everything
00:42:12.75\00:42:14.44
when it goes against
the principles of God's word
00:42:14.47\00:42:16.87
if he is that kind of man.
00:42:16.90\00:42:17.93
He hasn't given
his heart to Jesus.
00:42:17.96\00:42:19.39
If he has and he's
trying, he's working day by day
00:42:19.42\00:42:23.64
to be what God wants him to
do to be his role in the church
00:42:23.67\00:42:27.27
right and in the home
he is the head the leader.
00:42:27.30\00:42:30.59
See much of this
dilemma as far as I'm concerned
00:42:30.62\00:42:32.72
can be traced back to
poor leadership of man,
00:42:32.75\00:42:36.96
of elders and pastors even today
00:42:36.99\00:42:38.71
in the past and the present.
00:42:38.74\00:42:40.23
The poor teaching,
the poor self control
00:42:40.26\00:42:43.24
that they haven't been
converted their laziness
00:42:43.27\00:42:46.41
and the cause of Christ
and looking for somebody
00:42:46.44\00:42:48.91
to take the load
off and their burden
00:42:48.94\00:42:50.28
so they don't have to do it
and let somebody else do it.
00:42:50.31\00:42:53.33
They lack a spiritual backbone.
00:42:53.36\00:42:57.52
This is dangerous.
00:42:57.55\00:43:00.91
And because we
have not men stood
00:43:00.94\00:43:03.98
where we're supposed to
stand upon the Word of God
00:43:04.01\00:43:06.84
is become necessary many
times for God to call a woman
00:43:06.87\00:43:09.69
to do in an office first time
00:43:09.72\00:43:12.96
to fulfill because
we haven't done it.
00:43:12.99\00:43:15.17
Shame on us.
00:43:15.20\00:43:17.52
Women are to fill their roles
00:43:17.55\00:43:18.95
and we're fulfill our
roles, it's dangerous.
00:43:18.98\00:43:23.87
And now because men
haven't done what they do
00:43:23.90\00:43:25.73
there's call now
going and forward rapid now
00:43:25.76\00:43:28.30
for women's ordination.
00:43:28.33\00:43:30.71
Won't you think is the
time to for these abuses
00:43:30.74\00:43:33.48
to come to a close.
00:43:33.51\00:43:35.80
Wouldn't it be time for us
to just to confess our wrongs
00:43:35.83\00:43:39.09
and our failures
00:43:39.12\00:43:40.45
and say God we want
to lineup with scripture.
00:43:40.48\00:43:43.96
Let's not forget the
fairness and equality.
00:43:43.99\00:43:47.36
In many times in the past
with women this is not been so.
00:43:47.39\00:43:52.63
Example, where the husband
and the wife ministered together
00:43:52.66\00:43:56.58
to working along
side by side in ministry.
00:43:56.61\00:43:58.87
Remember, when
it says in ministry
00:43:58.90\00:44:00.34
it doesn't mean
you're a minister.
00:44:00.37\00:44:02.49
When it says we do ministry work
00:44:02.52\00:44:04.67
it doesn't mean you're pastor.
00:44:04.70\00:44:06.40
These are all
different but in the ministry,
00:44:06.43\00:44:08.43
the ministry means
in a work for Christ,
00:44:08.46\00:44:10.21
right, work for others.
00:44:10.24\00:44:12.30
Because some people will say
00:44:12.33\00:44:13.36
well, the wife
shouldn't receive a wages
00:44:13.39\00:44:15.54
you know she works with
her husband but she shouldn't.
00:44:15.57\00:44:17.20
Is that true? No
it's true, she should.
00:44:17.23\00:44:21.27
Manuscript, 43, 1893,
"If the Lord gives the wife"
00:44:21.30\00:44:26.45
of the minister listen
"as well as the husband
00:44:26.48\00:44:29.38
the burden of labor,
if she devotes her time
00:44:29.41\00:44:32.50
and her strength to
visiting from family to family
00:44:32.53\00:44:36.75
opening the Scriptures"
00:44:36.78\00:44:38.84
notice "although
the hands of ordination
00:44:38.87\00:44:42.04
have never been laid upon her,
she is accomplishing a work."
00:44:42.07\00:44:47.31
Isn't that wonderful?
00:44:47.34\00:44:48.79
She is accomplishing a work
00:44:48.82\00:44:51.21
and that is
inline with ministry.
00:44:51.24\00:44:54.77
"As the devoted minister and
his wife engaged in the work,
00:44:54.80\00:45:00.32
they should be
paid wages proportionate
00:45:00.35\00:45:03.12
to the wages of
two distinct workers.
00:45:03.15\00:45:06.82
The Lord has put
His spirit upon both."
00:45:06.85\00:45:09.18
Wow, heavy.
00:45:09.21\00:45:12.20
There again God
calls us back to Scripture
00:45:12.23\00:45:16.14
as we come in line
with it we must reject
00:45:16.17\00:45:19.43
and once again we
must lineup with Scripture
00:45:19.46\00:45:21.74
we reject the ordination
of women as elders and pastors
00:45:21.77\00:45:25.25
but at the same
time don't forget
00:45:25.28\00:45:27.03
women have a
legitimate role in ministry
00:45:27.06\00:45:30.51
in which the Bible
gives the guidelines.
00:45:30.54\00:45:33.63
Book of Evangelism, 467 and 468.
00:45:33.66\00:45:36.90
Hey you may, we may,
we can't we can't get by
00:45:36.93\00:45:39.76
without a good
woman, with godly woman.
00:45:39.79\00:45:42.47
We need them and
some people call me here
00:45:42.50\00:45:44.57
and say good thing,
you have a godly wife
00:45:44.60\00:45:46.23
she keeps you in line.
00:45:46.26\00:45:48.88
Praise God, we
need that balance.
00:45:48.91\00:45:52.02
But we look at here the
women have a legitimate role
00:45:52.05\00:45:54.59
to work Evangelism.
00:45:54.62\00:45:55.68
Notice this "Wonderful
is the mission of the wives
00:45:55.71\00:45:58.53
and mothers and the
younger woman workers.
00:45:58.56\00:46:02.03
If they will exert
an influence for good
00:46:02.06\00:46:06.11
to all around them."
00:46:06.14\00:46:07.69
Notice it oh, wow.
00:46:07.72\00:46:09.99
Good example, notice
this, "By modesty in dress,
00:46:10.02\00:46:14.41
circumspect deportment,
00:46:14.44\00:46:16.44
they may bear witness to
the truth in its simplicity.
00:46:16.47\00:46:21.05
They may let their
light so shine before all,
00:46:21.08\00:46:23.71
that others will see their good
works and glorify their Father
00:46:23.74\00:46:27.22
which is in heaven.
00:46:27.25\00:46:29.16
A truly converted woman will
exert a powerful transforming
00:46:29.19\00:46:34.70
influence for good."
00:46:34.73\00:46:37.14
What do many things
that many men cannot do
00:46:37.17\00:46:39.93
and do it better?
00:46:39.96\00:46:41.41
But it's not ordaining
against what the Bible has said
00:46:41.44\00:46:44.29
of elders and pastors.
00:46:44.32\00:46:46.31
But the work that man cannot do.
00:46:46.34\00:46:48.07
Now notice how it says here.
00:46:48.10\00:46:49.34
Notice this article goes on
talking about oh we've been,
00:46:49.37\00:46:52.73
"Connected with her husband
00:46:52.76\00:46:56.55
she may aid and
be a blessing to him.
00:46:56.58\00:47:00.71
When the will and the way
00:47:00.74\00:47:02.41
are brought
into the subjection."
00:47:02.44\00:47:05.64
If the will and the way
are brought in subjection
00:47:05.67\00:47:07.57
"for the Spirit of God," listen
00:47:07.60\00:47:09.39
"there is no limit to do
good that can be accomplished.
00:47:09.42\00:47:13.21
Man, get together men, women
right if God is going to bless
00:47:13.24\00:47:16.68
and he just gonna bless
our socks right out of us.
00:47:16.71\00:47:20.59
We need to follow what and
be responsible for the role
00:47:20.62\00:47:23.52
that He has given us.
00:47:23.55\00:47:25.68
So I believe in this
regards you have been reading
00:47:25.71\00:47:27.36
lot of things and I'm
just touching just scratching
00:47:27.39\00:47:29.40
on lot of things
that could be said.
00:47:29.43\00:47:31.52
We can go for as
four or five more parts.
00:47:31.55\00:47:34.59
But I believe this
with my whole heart
00:47:34.62\00:47:35.87
with all of said and all done.
00:47:35.90\00:47:37.26
Women are needed in the
work. Their labor is valuable.
00:47:37.29\00:47:42.39
And I have said before
they can do a work in families
00:47:42.42\00:47:44.85
that men just cannot do.
00:47:44.88\00:47:46.44
Some of us who are just not
in touch with the lot of things.
00:47:46.47\00:47:50.27
There's a lot
of needs in family.
00:47:50.30\00:47:52.22
A lot of women talk
lot of things that go on.
00:47:52.25\00:47:57.02
And so really, the question
then comes down to this.
00:47:57.05\00:48:01.25
Are we wiling each one of
us willing to work in ministry
00:48:01.28\00:48:06.40
consistent to scripture, are we?
00:48:06.43\00:48:10.70
Well, godly women
fulfill their roles
00:48:10.73\00:48:14.86
laid out in Scripture,
remember before the fall
00:48:14.89\00:48:17.44
after fall
reiterate the New Testament,
00:48:17.47\00:48:19.63
after the death,
00:48:19.66\00:48:20.69
right resurrection of
Christ all still the same.
00:48:20.72\00:48:23.92
Nothing has changed.
00:48:23.95\00:48:28.12
Will men and
women, will men and women
00:48:28.15\00:48:32.35
godly men and women
fulfill their roles?
00:48:32.38\00:48:36.77
Will godly men take the
place in the leadership roles
00:48:36.80\00:48:42.36
as God has ordained in headship.
00:48:42.39\00:48:47.63
When I say this we must
not be driven by position
00:48:47.66\00:48:50.64
and you know well, I
have this position here and--
00:48:50.67\00:48:55.93
Not driven by self seeking,
00:48:55.96\00:48:59.85
not trying to
moving our own direction
00:48:59.88\00:49:05.39
but I find this there are many,
many examples of godly women
00:49:05.42\00:49:08.63
in scripture and I
know you'll find those too.
00:49:08.66\00:49:11.64
When man failed, once
again when they failed
00:49:11.67\00:49:14.76
or they wouldn't
accept the challenge
00:49:14.79\00:49:16.71
they stepped in temporarily
00:49:16.74\00:49:19.57
and they were consistent with
the guidelines of the Bible.
00:49:19.60\00:49:23.49
They didn't have an
ambition you know to desire
00:49:23.52\00:49:26.36
to be ordained
as an elder priest
00:49:26.39\00:49:28.24
or an apostle as an elder.
00:49:28.27\00:49:31.51
They wanted to fulfill
what God had called them to do.
00:49:31.54\00:49:35.84
Some of you may call about
that even in the advent movement
00:49:35.87\00:49:40.32
that the call you know
00:49:40.35\00:49:41.79
the Spirit of
Prophecy for two men.
00:49:41.82\00:49:45.27
They were fearful and
they rejected the call
00:49:45.30\00:49:47.90
and God call a
woman into the office.
00:49:47.93\00:49:52.86
Not that she couldn't do
it, not the woman can't do it
00:49:52.89\00:49:55.35
that's not the issue.
00:49:55.38\00:49:56.43
They preach well, they
do this, they teach well.
00:49:56.46\00:49:58.03
That's not the issue.
00:49:58.06\00:49:59.13
They're not to have a
position to be ordained
00:49:59.16\00:50:01.64
as head over the man.
00:50:01.67\00:50:03.44
Kind of interesting.
00:50:03.47\00:50:06.87
All of us we're
nearing the end of time.
00:50:06.90\00:50:09.72
You know, don't we want to just
to kind of yoke up with Christ.
00:50:09.75\00:50:11.81
Don't we want to
do the right thing?
00:50:11.84\00:50:13.30
Don't we want even if we
have done the wrong thing?
00:50:13.33\00:50:16.56
And you remember
when we once get off track
00:50:16.59\00:50:19.41
it's very
difficult to get back on.
00:50:19.44\00:50:21.97
Because once we get
off we start to make it
00:50:22.00\00:50:23.99
bigger messes along the way
00:50:24.02\00:50:25.54
that makes it more
difficult to get back in.
00:50:25.57\00:50:27.62
But you know what we're
always be blessed if we'll say
00:50:27.65\00:50:29.82
"oh God, I'm
sorry I got off track
00:50:29.85\00:50:31.65
and we need to get back on."
00:50:31.68\00:50:34.03
So how can this ordination of
women and so on of this elders
00:50:34.06\00:50:36.71
and pastors be legitimate
in one area and not in other?
00:50:36.74\00:50:40.15
Legitimate in North America
but not around the world?
00:50:40.18\00:50:42.53
It's not legitimate
number one from scripture
00:50:42.56\00:50:44.22
but see all of a sudden
we're farther and farther off.
00:50:44.25\00:50:46.89
We need to comeback to
God, comeback to His word.
00:50:46.92\00:50:49.07
We want the blessings of God.
00:50:49.10\00:50:52.29
Oh, all of us are never, never
ever to claim a higher work,
00:50:52.32\00:50:57.91
higher position than that
which God has assigned us.
00:50:57.94\00:51:01.58
Be sure He's assigned it.
00:51:01.61\00:51:03.34
That's why scripture is
here we need to go this is what
00:51:03.37\00:51:05.11
this is the role that God
said He wants you to play.
00:51:05.14\00:51:08.62
God has assigned it
assigned to say in accordance
00:51:08.65\00:51:10.99
with His plan let's
not as Galatians 1:7
00:51:11.02\00:51:16.09
provoked the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:51:16.12\00:51:20.08
And somebody say,
well, I never did that.
00:51:20.11\00:51:21.79
I would never.
00:51:21.82\00:51:22.85
No maybe you didn't
have any intentions to do it
00:51:22.88\00:51:25.51
but we've to
line up with the word
00:51:25.54\00:51:28.84
even though the
study may just be
00:51:28.87\00:51:30.41
so troublesome to some people.
00:51:30.44\00:51:34.19
We can never go wrong
by searching the Scripture
00:51:34.22\00:51:37.01
and finding the
answers to our questions.
00:51:37.04\00:51:40.38
We can never go
wrong, never go wrong
00:51:40.41\00:51:44.98
by the grace of
God to submit ourselves
00:51:45.01\00:51:48.42
to the
scriptures to come in line.
00:51:48.45\00:51:50.63
Come with harmony with movement
00:51:50.66\00:51:52.15
to continue down the right path.
00:51:52.18\00:51:55.63
Not the wrong
path. The right path.
00:51:55.66\00:52:01.95
Solid theological
study which began in Eden
00:52:01.98\00:52:09.22
it will serve
to the end of time.
00:52:09.25\00:52:12.59
It does not I say
again does not allow--
00:52:12.62\00:52:14.98
because anybody is
confused does not allowed
00:52:15.01\00:52:17.45
for women to
serve in the leadership,
00:52:17.48\00:52:20.84
headship role of elder
or pastor in the church.
00:52:20.87\00:52:25.93
Doesn't matter if you're some
who are already and they are.
00:52:25.96\00:52:31.02
Bible does not sanction that.
00:52:31.05\00:52:33.55
And so we want to line
up with the word don't we.
00:52:33.58\00:52:36.52
We must come to
grips with it right now.
00:52:36.55\00:52:39.59
This is the
most important topic.
00:52:39.62\00:52:45.37
We can't set aside
the scriptures right now.
00:52:45.40\00:52:50.40
We've went so far
down the road right now
00:52:50.43\00:52:52.53
what are we going to do.
00:52:52.56\00:52:53.59
We got to come back
so that God can bless.
00:52:53.62\00:52:57.56
If we set this aside
00:52:57.59\00:52:58.86
and we don't come
to grips with this
00:52:58.89\00:53:00.39
what are we going to do next?
00:53:00.42\00:53:02.20
What will happen next?
00:53:02.23\00:53:03.26
Well, we deviate from the truth.
00:53:03.29\00:53:05.79
And I know there's been lot
of pressure from lot of people
00:53:05.82\00:53:07.67
in high positions
because of their education
00:53:07.70\00:53:10.19
and because of
their position and because
00:53:10.22\00:53:12.35
all they need to
be they should be.
00:53:12.38\00:53:13.57
God says what needs to be
and what not doesn't need to be.
00:53:13.60\00:53:17.35
Don't set aside the scripture.
00:53:17.38\00:53:22.45
We need to
follow the Word of God.
00:53:22.48\00:53:27.40
Scripture reveals the
will of God, does it not?
00:53:27.43\00:53:32.16
It must be the foundation
of every decision that we make.
00:53:32.19\00:53:36.35
The Bible is
its own interpreter.
00:53:36.38\00:53:38.82
One passage explains
another line up on line.
00:53:38.85\00:53:43.29
And once again the
ordination of women
00:53:43.32\00:53:45.52
as elders and
pastors is unbiblical.
00:53:45.55\00:53:50.65
We want to ordain individuals
right now we want to ordain
00:53:50.68\00:53:55.31
individual
without regard to gender.
00:53:55.34\00:53:58.70
How sad.
00:53:58.73\00:54:00.90
God has the role of a woman.
00:54:00.93\00:54:02.81
He has the role of a man.
00:54:02.84\00:54:05.38
Sin came in, things changed.
00:54:05.41\00:54:08.27
And God put the man
as head in the church
00:54:08.30\00:54:10.78
and head in the home
as he is in the Lord.
00:54:10.81\00:54:15.80
But it's always drawn me to
this movement as last minute
00:54:15.83\00:54:18.16
that we have has been the
position proves all things.
00:54:18.19\00:54:22.02
Holdfast is that which is good?
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And thus sayeth the Lord.
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And I pray that yours as we
go to Lord in prayer right now.
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I drew me to this
movement stick to scripture
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regardless of popularly.
00:54:33.12\00:54:34.71
And people won't be
popular and they want to do.
00:54:34.74\00:54:37.24
Let's commit to God
right now as we pray
00:54:37.27\00:54:39.81
that we gonna follow His
word whatever the cost maybe.
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Our Father in heaven, we thank
You for Your precious Word.
00:54:42.60\00:54:45.13
We pray now You'll bless
us open hearts and our minds
00:54:45.16\00:54:47.46
help us to digest these things.
00:54:47.49\00:54:49.82
And as we digest and
that we come up and we say
00:54:49.85\00:54:51.83
whatever the word
says that's what we will do
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by Your grace and strength.
00:54:53.70\00:54:54.74
And I thank You for
in Jesus name, amen.
00:54:54.77\00:54:58.76
I know it's not an easy subject
00:54:58.79\00:55:00.42
and I know it's
probably hurtful to many of us.
00:55:00.45\00:55:02.35
Never mind
tensions but this subject
00:55:02.38\00:55:04.54
is like any other subject
that want to come right down
00:55:04.57\00:55:06.54
to grips with
what the Bible says
00:55:06.57\00:55:09.48
and then what I want
to see is people willing
00:55:09.51\00:55:11.47
to make the changes
because God has said.
00:55:11.50\00:55:14.46
Are you willing
to fulfill the role
00:55:14.49\00:55:16.20
the plan that God has for you.
00:55:16.23\00:55:18.23
Oh, I know your today
prayer about we love you
00:55:18.26\00:55:20.26
continue to call right then
your support as we love you,
00:55:20.29\00:55:23.06
we will see you next time.
00:55:23.09\00:55:26.33
Hello and welcome back friends.
00:55:26.36\00:55:28.40
In closing I'd like to
share another important
00:55:28.43\00:55:31.36
and pertinent quote as we
close this study together.
00:55:31.39\00:55:35.28
It is found in Manuscript
Releases number 2 and page 88.
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"God's cause at this
time is in special need
00:55:40.68\00:55:44.14
of men and women who possess
Christ like qualifications
00:55:44.17\00:55:47.99
for service, executive ability,
00:55:48.02\00:55:50.90
and a large capacity for
work who have a kind, warm,
00:55:50.93\00:55:54.83
sympathetic hearts
sound common sense,
00:55:54.86\00:55:58.19
and unbiased judgment.
00:55:58.22\00:56:00.11
Who will carefully weigh
matters before they approve
00:56:00.14\00:56:02.90
or condemn, and who
can fearlessly say No,
00:56:02.93\00:56:06.12
or Yea and Amen.
00:56:06.15\00:56:08.20
Who, because they are
sanctified by the Spirit of God
00:56:08.23\00:56:11.95
practice the words,
'All ye are brethren,'
00:56:11.98\00:56:15.76
striving constantly to uplift
and restore fallen humanity."
00:56:15.79\00:56:21.25
Friends, find the
balancing God's word
00:56:21.28\00:56:24.40
and in the Spirit of Prophecy
that He has given to his church
00:56:24.43\00:56:28.68
for special
guidance in these last days.
00:56:28.71\00:56:31.74
Don't be
discouraged but be encouraged
00:56:31.77\00:56:34.78
that you both men and
women have been called set apart
00:56:34.81\00:56:38.71
to proclaim the
closing message of life
00:56:38.74\00:56:41.70
for a world in distress.
00:56:41.73\00:56:43.97
Our mission work is to
start in the home first.
00:56:44.00\00:56:47.49
And then pray for
God to open doors for you
00:56:47.52\00:56:51.00
to witness whatever He
sees best for you to do so.
00:56:51.03\00:56:55.41
We certainly hope and
indeed it is our prayer
00:56:55.44\00:56:58.41
that this sensitive issue
has found a proper balance
00:56:58.44\00:57:01.48
in your minds as a result
of this straightforward study.
00:57:01.51\00:57:06.01
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