The Bible or Tradition

Sabbath Controversies and Tradition

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00:31 Well, hello again everybody.
00:32 It's good to have you here once again to continue our study
00:35 on The Bible or Tradition.
00:37 And today our topic is titled, Sabbath Controversies
00:43 and Tradition. It's presentation number seven in this series,
00:47 The Bible or Tradition.
00:49 But before we enter a study of God's Word, we want to do what
00:53 we also do, and that is to ask for the Lord's presence.
00:56 And so I invite you to bow your heads with me as we pray
01:00 to ask God to be present with us.
01:01 Father in heaven, we come before Your throne again this evening
01:06 knowing that our wisdom is insufficient to understand
01:10 and grasp the great things from Your Holy Word.
01:13 Therefore we come imploring divine wisdom.
01:16 We ask that You will help us to handle Your Word appropriately,
01:21 and correctly. We ask that You will open hearts and minds.
01:24 We're going to study a very important subject today,
01:27 and I ask that You will not only give us understanding,
01:31 but that You will give us a willingness to live in harmony
01:34 with what we study.
01:35 And we thank You for hearing our prayer,
01:37 for we ask it in Jesus' name, Amen.
01:40 The most revered institution in Judaism
01:47 is the seventh day Sabbath.
01:49 For the rabbi's the Sabbath was equal in importance to all
01:56 of the other precepts that Moses wrote combined.
02:00 In fact, one rabbi once stated, He who observes the
02:06 Sabbath is kept from sin.
02:09 Another rabbi wrote, If Israel were to keep two Sabbaths,
02:15 according to the laws thereof, they would be
02:19 redeemed immediately.
02:20 And Rabbi Levi, a very famous rabbi once stated, If Israel
02:27 kept the Sabbath properly, even for one day, the Son of David
02:30 the Son of David would come.
02:33 Why, because it is equivalent to all the commandments.
02:39 But the question that we want to ask today in our study
02:44 is whether the Sabbath of the rabbi's, the Sabbath that these
02:48 rabbi's mentioned, is really the Biblical Sabbath
02:51 or the Sabbath of the Lord, or is it a different Sabbath
02:56 than the one that we find in Scripture?
02:58 The rabbinical Sabbath is different than the Sabbath
03:03 that we find in the writings of Moses.
03:06 I want to read a statement from Robert Johnston,
03:10 who is a Seventh-day Adventist historian.
03:13 He taught at the Seminary at Andrews University
03:15 for several years.
03:16 He's an expert in the literature that was written in the
03:20 Intertestimonial Period.
03:21 That is between the end of the Old Testament
03:23 and the beginning of the New Testament.
03:24 And this is what he had to say about the transmission
03:28 of oral tradition by the rabbi's.
03:32 It says in his book, The Sabbath In Scripture and History,
03:37 page 70.
04:09 We've studied this before by using other writings.
04:12 It's interesting. You have this same concept again that
04:16 you have a process of transmission from one generation
04:19 to another, beginning with Moses through the great assembly
04:23 in the times of Ezra, all the way till the times of Christ.
04:27 He also says on page 70 of the same book:
05:01 And for that reason the oral traditions were eventually
05:05 codified in two Talmud's.
05:08 That is the collection of oral laws, and oral traditions
05:12 that had been handed down.
05:14 One is known as the Babylonian Talmud, and the other one is
05:18 known as the Palestinian Talmud.
05:20 Basically the oral laws that supposedly had been passed along
05:25 by Moses, throughout the generations all the way to the
05:29 times of Christ were placed in a book or in a Code.
05:33 Now the Old Testament, if you read carefully, has very few
05:38 Sabbath prohibitions.
05:39 Actually, it has four Sabbath prohibitions.
05:44 That is the written books of the Old Testament.
05:46 The first thing that is forbidden is work.
05:49 Secondly, kindling a fire. Third, trading.
05:55 That is doing business on the Sabbath.
05:57 And 4. Cooking. But the Rabbi's expanded these prohibitions
06:04 into an entire system of rules and regulations.
06:09 On the basis of Deuteronomy 25:3 which, by the way, in context
06:15 has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
06:17 They established that there were 39 major activities which were
06:22 forbidden on the Sabbath.
06:23 But each of these 39 were subdivided into smaller laws,
06:30 into an almost endless list of prohibitions of things that
06:35 could not be done on the Sabbath.
06:37 Now I'd like to read a statement here from Deuteronomy 25:3,
06:43 and actually we'll begin at verse 1 through verse 3,
06:47 and you tell me if this passage has anything
06:50 to do with the Sabbath.
06:51 The only thing that it has is the number 39.
06:55 Now notice what it says.
07:33 So just to be safe, they said, you could only give
07:36 an individual 39 blows.
07:38 In other words, you can only beat a criminal 39 times.
07:42 And so, basically, they said this applies also to rules
07:47 regarding Sabbath observance.
07:49 And so they came up with a list of 39 things that cannot be
07:53 performed on the Sabbath, and I'd like to read those.
07:56 I'm actually reading now from the Talmud. It says:
08:04 That means thirty-nine.
08:05 Now here comes the list of prohibitions, which are not
08:09 found in Scripture, but are based on oral tradition.
09:11 What do you think?
09:13 Are any of those things mentioned as Sabbath
09:16 prohibitions in Scripture? Absolutely not!
09:19 In fact Deuteronomy 25:3 is not even talking about the
09:23 Sabbath, and yet the rabbi's said by extension,
09:26 Deuteronomy 25:3 is actually speaking about prohibitions
09:31 of things that you cannot do on the Sabbath.
09:34 Now some of the rules that the rabbi's added to the Sabbath
09:38 to protect it from being broken, were the following...
09:41 And you're going to snicker at some of these, but these were
09:44 actual laws that the rabbi's said were contained in the
09:48 oral tradition, and they said they're contained in principle
09:52 in Scripture as well.
09:53 But they're not contained in Scripture.
09:55 Now notice I'm going to share some of these with you.
09:58 You could not eat a fruit on the ground that you found under
10:03 a tree because it might have fallen on the Sabbath.
10:06 You could not remove an egg from a nest on the Sabbath,
10:11 but you could protect it until after the Sabbath
10:14 when it could be eaten.
10:15 Instrumental music was forbidden on the Sabbath.
10:19 If your house caught fire on the Sabbath you could save life,
10:24 but you could not save any property in the house.
10:28 All sacred books could be saved from the fire, and enough food
10:33 and drink for the remaining Sabbath meals.
10:36 It was a cardinal offense to tilt a lamp in order to make
10:41 more oil run toward the wick because this would make it
10:45 burn brighter, which was the sin of kindling.
10:48 You could not read by the light of a lamp on the Sabbath.
10:52 You could not touch money, or any of the tools of your trade,
10:56 even if you did not intend to work with them.
10:58 Climbing a tree, swimming, clapping the hands, slapping
11:03 the thighs, and stamping the feet were forbidden.
11:06 Burials and weddings could not take place on the Sabbath.
11:10 Writing was forbidden on the Sabbath.
11:12 You could not drag a chair across the floor and make a
11:15 furrow with it if you intended to do so, but if you did not
11:19 intend to do so it was allowed.
11:21 You may not directly carry a stone, but you were permitted
11:26 to lift up the child, even if he had the stone in his hand.
11:29 So you can imagine, you know, just tell the child,
11:31 Pick up the stone, and so that way you could
11:34 transport the stone.
11:35 Here's another one: treatment of non-mortal ailments,
11:38 and handicaps could not be treated on the Sabbath.
11:42 But an eye salve could be placed on the eye before sundown
11:47 on Friday, or a plaster could be placed on the wound so that
11:50 the healing continued on the Sabbath.
11:52 If a deer wandered into your house on the Sabbath, one man
11:56 could not trap it, but two could do so.
11:59 You could not tithe on the Sabbath.
12:02 No Jew was allowed to travel more than 2,000 cubits beyond
12:06 the city limits where he lived.
12:08 Now notice how they escaped from that prescription.
12:12 To mitigate the 2,000 cubit limit, one need only deposit
12:17 enough food for two meals at 2,000 cubits distance,
12:21 and declare the place his temporary abode.
12:24 And then from there he could travel an
12:27 additional 2,000 cubits.
12:29 So what do you think about this?
12:31 Is there any inkling in the Bible of any of these
12:35 rules and regulations? Absolutely not!
12:38 So the question is, Where did they come from?
12:41 They did not come from the written Scriptures.
12:44 They were prescriptions that were established by the rabbi's
12:48 by oral tradition that were passed along, supposedly from
12:51 the days of Moses, from generation to generation.
12:54 And they said, These rules are as important to obey
12:59 as the writings of Moses.
13:02 Now of all of the theological controversies that Jesus had,
13:07 there was no greater controversy and conflict with the
13:12 denominations of His day, than over the Sabbath.
13:15 In fact the religious leaders despised Jesus because He did
13:20 not keep their Sabbath.
13:22 Some evangelical scholars have said that Jesus actually
13:26 broke the Sabbath.
13:27 But the question is, did Jesus break the Bible Sabbath?
13:32 I don't think Jesus broke the Bible Sabbath.
13:35 In fact I know Jesus did not break the Bible Sabbath.
13:38 But Jesus did break the Sabbath of the rabbi's.
13:42 He broke the Sabbath of oral tradition, because that was not
13:46 God's Sabbath, that was the Sabbath of the theologians.
13:50 Now Jesus, the cases of individuals that He healed
13:56 on the Sabbath were chronic cases.
13:59 For example, you have an individual who
14:03 had been born blind.
14:05 Could Jesus have waited until after the Sabbath
14:08 to heal the blind man?
14:09 Of course He could have.
14:10 A paralytic for 38 years.
14:14 Would he have died if Jesus had waited just until sundown
14:17 to heal him? Absolutely not!
14:19 A woman who could not straighten out for 18 years.
14:23 Could Jesus have waited until sundown to heal this woman?
14:27 She wouldn't have died. Of course!
14:29 A man with a withered hand.
14:31 I mean, could Jesus have waited until after the Sabbath
14:34 to have healed this withered hand? Of course.
14:38 And, then, of course, He healed Peter's mother-in-law
14:40 from the flu. She probably would have recovered even if Jesus
14:44 had not healed her, but Jesus wanted to alleviate her
14:47 suffering on the Sabbath.
14:49 Now Jesus said that it was lawful to do these
14:53 things on the Sabbath.
14:54 The scribes and the Pharisees said that it was unlawful
14:58 for Jesus to do these things on the Sabbath.
15:00 And, of course, the critical question is this: on what basis
15:05 did the scribes and the Pharisees say that it was
15:08 unlawful, and on what basis did Jesus say that what He was doing
15:13 was lawful? In other words, what was the source of authority
15:17 for the scribes and Pharisees to say that what Jesus did
15:20 wasn't lawful, and what was the standard that Jesus used to say
15:24 that what He was doing was lawful?
15:27 The fact is folks, that there is nowhere in the Old Testament
15:32 where we are told that it is wrong to alleviate suffering on
15:35 the Sabbath, or to heal someone who is sick on the Sabbath.
15:40 There is nowhere in the written scriptures of the Old Testament
15:43 any prohibition to alleviate suffering and sickness
15:47 on the Sabbath. In fact, Isaiah 58, the last few verses, say
15:53 that the Sabbath is a special day to alleviate suffering,
15:57 to visit prisoners, to feed the hungry, and to clothe those
16:01 who are naked, and those who are afflicted.
16:03 In other words, Isaiah 58 says that it is lawful to
16:08 do good on the Sabbath.
16:09 So Jesus was obeying Isaiah 58.
16:13 Let me ask you, the laws of the scribes and Pharisees,
16:17 were they making the written scriptures of no effect?
16:21 Of course they were!
16:22 Jesus was saying, Isaiah 58 says it is alright to do good
16:27 on the Sabbath. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.
16:29 You say that I can't.
16:31 I'm in harmony with the written Scriptures and you are not,
16:34 because you are following your oral traditions.
16:37 Now let's take an example of something that Jesus did,
16:45 or the disciples of Jesus rather, did on the Sabbath
16:47 that created a great theological conflict.
16:51 You remember that one Sabbath Jesus and His disciples were
16:55 walking through a field, and His disciples were hungry.
16:58 And so the Bible says in Matthew 12 that His disciples plucked
17:04 some ears of grain, and they started eating on the Sabbath.
17:08 Now according to Sam Bacchiocchi, who actually went
17:13 to the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome
17:16 and wrote his dissertation on the Sabbath, stated that by
17:21 doing this the disciples were breaking four rabbinical rules.
17:26 First of all they were reaping by picking the ears.
17:30 Secondly they were threshing, because they would have to take
17:32 the grain off of the ears.
17:34 Third they were winnowing, which they were separating
17:38 the chaff from the good grain.
17:40 And number four, they were preparing a meal.
17:44 In other words, they were breaking four rabbinical rules
17:48 by what they did on the Sabbath.
17:50 In other words, they were accused by the scribes and
17:54 Pharisees of breaking the Sabbath.
17:56 But were they really breaking the Biblical Sabbath?
18:00 Folks, the Bible does forbid harvesting your fields
18:03 on the Sabbath for commercial purposes.
18:05 But there's nowhere in Scripture that would forbid an individual
18:09 to pick, or pluck an ear of grain in order to satisfy hunger
18:15 on the Holy Sabbath.
18:16 That came from the rules that had been established by oral
18:20 tradition by the scribes and the Pharisees.
18:23 The question is, how did Jesus answer the accusation of the
18:27 scribes and Pharisees against His disciples?
18:30 The answer is very simple.
18:32 Not only on this occasion, but on other occasions, Jesus quoted
18:37 Scripture to show that what they were teaching was not Biblical,
18:41 and what He was teaching was Biblical.
18:45 Let me give you three examples.
18:47 In Mark 2:25-27 the Lord Jesus used two texts from the
18:52 Old Testament to defend what His disciples were doing.
18:57 He used 1 Samuel 21:6 where David entered and he ate
19:02 the shewbread, even though the Old Testament said that only
19:06 the Priests could eat the shewbread.
19:07 And then Jesus also quoted Genesis 2 where it says that
19:12 God made the Sabbath for man.
19:14 He made man, and then He made the Sabbath for man.
19:16 And so in Mark 2 it says the Sabbath was made for man,
19:20 and not man for the Sabbath.
19:22 Jesus is referring to the written Scriptures to defend
19:26 the behavior of His disciples.
19:28 In the case of the woman who was bent over and could not
19:32 straighten out for eighteen years...
19:33 That story is found in Luke 13.
19:36 Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 5:14.
19:38 He said to them, which of you if you have an ox
19:42 won't take the ox, out of mercy for him on the Sabbath,
19:45 so that he can go and drink water?
19:47 That comes directly from Deuteronomy 5:14.
19:52 Jesus is using written Scripture to defend His point of view.
19:57 And then, in another case, in John 7:22, 23, Jesus uses the
20:03 example of circumcision in the Old Testament to defend
20:07 His healing of the paralytic in John 5.
20:11 He says, Listen, if an individual is born, and eight
20:15 days later falls on the Sabbath, the law says that you're
20:18 supposed to circumcise that individual the eighth day.
20:20 And so if it's the Sabbath you will circumcise that child
20:24 even if it's on the Sabbath.
20:26 And so you are accusing Me because I heal someone on the
20:31 Sabbath, when you are willing to circumcise someone
20:34 on the Sabbath. And so Jesus is using Scripture to defend
20:39 His observance of the Sabbath.
20:42 Jesus made it clear that in not helping the needy
20:46 the Pharisees were actually breaking the Sabbath,
20:49 while He was keeping the Sabbath.
20:51 In other words, their tradition had made of no effect
20:55 the written word of God.
20:57 Their rules were intended on protecting the Sabbath,
21:01 but actually their rules led them to break the Sabbath
21:05 that is written in Holy Scripture.
21:08 Actually, the scribes and the Pharisees had several
21:12 interesting things in their observance of the Sabbath.
21:17 First of all their Sabbath was a counterfeit Sabbath.
21:20 Would you agree that their Sabbath was a
21:22 counterfeit Sabbath?
21:23 Because it wasn't the Biblical Sabbath.
21:26 Was their Sabbath a man made Sabbath?
21:28 Their Sabbath was a man made Sabbath. Yes!
21:31 Was their Sabbath based on human tradition? Yes, it was.
21:36 Did they create their Sabbath rather than God?
21:40 They most certainly did.
21:41 Were they practicing false worship by their observance
21:45 of the Sabbath made by man, instead of made by God?
21:48 Absolutely! Now you say, why do you bring all of this up?
21:52 There's a very specific reason.
21:54 As Seventh-day Adventists we believe that the great issue
21:59 in the final controversy in this world is going to be
22:04 the commandments of God versus the commandments of men,
22:08 and true worship and false worship; the genuine Sabbath
22:13 of the Lord and a counterfeit Sabbath.
22:16 Now the question is, will the final conflict involve a false
22:21 Sabbath and a true Sabbath?
22:22 The answer is yes.
22:25 Now listen carefully, the only difference between the times of
22:30 Jesus and the end time, is that the Pharisees and the scribes
22:35 kept the Sabbath in the wrong way.
22:37 And yet it was a human Sabbath because they created it that
22:42 way, and they kept it in their own way.
22:45 At the end of time we believe that Scripture indicates that
22:49 the Christian world will keep the wrong day,
22:52 but the principle is the same.
22:54 It doesn't matter whether you keep the Sabbath in the wrong
22:57 way, because the Sabbath is made by a human being;
23:01 or you keep the wrong day, because if you keep the wrong
23:04 day, you're still keeping a day that God did not create.
23:07 You're keeping a day that man created for worship.
23:11 The principle, in other words, is the same.
23:14 So basically the conflict in Christ's day is the same
23:19 conflict that is going to exist at the end of time.
23:22 The conflict is between the Sabbath of the Bible,
23:26 and a Sabbath that has been created by human tradition.
23:29 It is between keeping the Sabbath in honor of the Creator,
23:33 the Sabbath of the Bible; and keeping the counterfeit Sabbath
23:37 which is practicing false worship.
23:38 Because you're keeping the day that was established not by God,
23:43 but by human tradition.
23:44 Now it's interesting as we examine the gospels that the
23:50 Pharisees not only broke God's Sabbath by abstaining from doing
23:54 good on the Sabbath, but they also intended to kill
23:58 Jesus Christ on the Sabbath.
24:00 You can read that in several places: for example, Mark 3:6.
24:04 We won't go there now.
24:06 Matthew 12:14, and John 5:14 says that they wanted to get rid
24:12 of Jesus. They wanted to kill the Lord Jesus for healing
24:15 people on the Sabbath.
24:16 Now it's interesting, irony of ironies folks, they condemned
24:20 Jesus for healing on the Sabbath, but they wanted to kill
24:24 on the Sabbath because they thought He was not
24:27 keeping the Sabbath the way it should be kept.
24:30 Was their Sabbath making the law that says, Thou shalt not
24:36 kill, of none effect? Absolutely!
24:39 They were not only destroying the Biblical Sabbath,
24:42 but they were violating by intending to kill Jesus
24:45 on the Sabbath for what He did, they were violating the
24:48 commandment that says, Thou shalt not kill.
24:52 Now does this ring a bell when we come to the end time?
24:56 Is there going to be a death decree against God's people?
25:00 Yes. In fact most of the Christian world, with what I'm
25:03 going to share now, they would say, Ah, this is never
25:07 going to happen. That's impossible!
25:09 You know, we live in a civilized world.
25:11 But, you know, the heart of man, without the influence of the
25:15 Spirit of God, can be very cruel.
25:17 As Seventh-day Adventists, we have taught that Sabbath keepers
25:21 will be accused at the end time of being legalists.
25:25 Aren't we accused of being legalists because
25:27 we keep the Sabbath?
25:28 But you know there's no worse legalism than saying,
25:33 you either keep the Sabbath or we'll kill you.
25:35 And so people keep the Sabbath, not because they love the Lord,
25:39 Sunday because they love the Lord,
25:41 but they keep Sunday because they're afraid of being what?
25:44 Because they're afraid of being killed.
25:46 And when I say the Sabbath, I'm talking about the Sabbath
25:48 that the Christian world believes is the Sabbath,
25:50 which is not the Biblical Sabbath, it's Sunday.
25:52 So there's no worse legalism than saying, You keep Sunday
25:57 or else we're going to kill you.
25:59 That is making the law of God of none effect.
26:03 And, furthermore, we know by the story of Elijah,
26:08 and by other stories in Scripture, as well as from the
26:11 Spirit of Prophecy, that the things in this world are
26:14 going to get worse and worse.
26:16 There are going to be major mega disasters
26:19 one right after another.
26:20 We've seen several of them already, but it's going to get
26:23 worse and worse. Crime is going to get worse and worse.
26:26 There's going to be an economic collapse, and as a result the
26:29 Christian world is going to say, Why is this all happening to us?
26:33 It's because we've gone astray from God.
26:35 So what we need to do is we need to come back to God.
26:38 We need to go to church on Sunday,
26:40 and then God will favor us again.
26:42 What worse legalism can there be than saying, let's get back
26:47 to church so that God will bless us?
26:49 Shouldn't we get back to church because we love the Lord?
26:53 not in order to remove the curse?
26:55 And so Adventists have been accused of being legalists
26:58 because we say that we should keep the Sabbath,
27:02 which is one of the ten commandments.
27:04 And yet the Christian world is going to say, You either keep
27:07 Sunday, and if you keep the Sabbath we're going to kill you.
27:11 And so many people will observe Sunday because they're afraid
27:14 of losing their lives, not because they love the Lord.
27:17 And also the legalism will be manifested by the Christian
27:19 world by saying, Hey, if we eliminate the problem of these
27:25 individuals who have observed the Sabbath, then God is going
27:30 to remove all of these disasters.
27:31 He's going to remove the curse, and that way we
27:33 will earn God's favor.
27:36 Now lets notice what Roman Catholics have to say about
27:41 the Sabbath/Sunday issue.
27:43 Probably many of you are aware of a challenge that John Eck,
27:48 a theologian of the Roman Catholic Church, hurled at
27:52 Martin Luther in a debate that they had.
27:55 I want to read this statement that Johann Eck makes to Luther,
28:00 and Eck got the better part of Luther on this one.
28:03 Notice what he said, because Luther said,
28:07 Sola scriptura, the Bible alone.
28:10 Now notice, Eck says:
28:24 Now notice the terminology.
28:27 What? Remember that word.
28:29 We're going to come back to it.
28:35 That is Sunday, according to the Christian world.
28:43 He says to Luther.
28:55 Notice, the Church.
29:07 Notice what John Milner, another Roman Catholic scholar,
29:12 had to say about the reason for keeping Sunday. He says:
29:20 And then he quotes.
29:39 By the way, up till now he's quoted Genesis 2:3, Exodus 20,
29:44 now he's quoted Matthew 5:17.
29:46 Then he continues saying:
30:06 See, he's quoting Scripture.
30:08 And then notice what he says:
30:52 Here's another statement from a Roman Catholic theologian,
30:57 John L. Stoddard, and he indicts Protestants here by saying:
31:20 And then he's going to give an example.
32:09 On what basis has the Protestant world done this?
32:12 Notice what he says.
32:23 Quite an indictment, isn't it?
32:25 Now here's another statement from Bertrand Conway.
32:29 I'm going to read two statements from him. He says:
32:45 And then he says in a candid and unapologetic way:
33:14 Some Protestant churches baptize children, by the way.
33:33 Amazing statements, aren't they?
33:35 Now notice this one.
33:37 This is from James Cardinal Gibbons, a famous cardinal who
33:42 was in Baltimore, in the Diocese of Baltimore.
33:45 Notice what he had to say.
34:36 Here's another one: Leo Tress and John Castlelot.
34:44 Notice this, the change.
34:51 There's the important word.
34:57 What? Ah, there's the interesting term again.
35:07 That is by the Magisterium.
35:26 So why do Protestants keep Sunday as the day of rest?
35:29 Based on the authority of the tradition of the
35:32 Roman Catholic Church.
35:34 Here is another one.
35:36 This is from the Catholic Mirror, which was the
35:38 publication of the Diocese of Baltimore. It says there:
35:50 Did what? What's the next word?
35:51 Remember that. We're going to come back to it.
36:04 That is the Church.
36:19 That is with the Church.
36:34 That's Sunday, by the way.
36:54 And now listen to this.
36:55 I'm going to come back to it in a few moments.
36:59 Which is Sunday. It's not the seventh day, it's the first day.
37:11 Remember that word.
37:22 So remember that this author in the Catholic Mirror,
37:27 is basically saying that Sunday was born from the
37:32 Roman Catholic Church.
37:33 It is the offspring of the Roman Catholic Church.
37:36 Here's another statement.
37:38 This is from F. G. Lintz, another Roman Catholic scholar,
37:41 and it's in question and answer form.
38:03 Is what is being asked of this Roman Catholic scholar.
38:06 Now notice how the Roman Catholic Scholar is going to
38:08 answer whether the day that Seventh-day Adventist's
38:11 keep is the right day.
38:47 That is Protestants.
39:31 These are amazing statements, aren't they?
39:33 And all of them are made by Roman Catholic scholars
39:37 without exception.
39:38 These are not Protestants that are making these statements.
39:40 These are Roman Catholics that are making these statements.
39:43 Now did you notice the number of times in these statements
39:45 that you have the word changed?
39:47 The Church changed, tradition changed?
39:50 Do you know where this comes from?
39:52 It comes from a prophecy that we find in Daniel 7.
39:56 And I'm just going to summarize it very briefly.
39:58 Because many people are acquainted with it.
40:00 In Daniel 7 we have the course of human history, from the days
40:04 of Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar, to the very end of time.
40:08 You have, first of all, a lion.
40:11 And what kingdom does the lion represent?
40:13 It represents Babylon.
40:15 It ruled from 605 to 539 B.C.
40:19 And then you have after this a bear.
40:21 What does the bear represent?
40:23 It represents the Medes and Persians.
40:25 The kingdom that conquered Babylon.
40:27 And the Medes and Persians ruled from 539 to 331 B.C.
40:32 And then you have a leopard.
40:34 And the leopard represents which kingdom?
40:36 It represents Greece.
40:38 And Greece ruled from 331 to 168 B.C.
40:42 And then you have a fourth beast.
40:43 The fourth beast is what I call a dragon beast.
40:46 It's a non-descript beast.
40:48 And this beast has three stages of existence, three consecutive
40:51 stages of existence.
40:53 The first stage is this dragon beast ruling by itself.
40:57 It doesn't have any horns on its head when it arises to power.
41:01 It's simply this dragon beast ruling by itself.
41:04 And what does this dragon beast represent?
41:06 It represents the Roman Empire.
41:08 The empire under which the Lord Jesus was born.
41:11 You can find that in Revelation 12 where it says that the
41:14 dragon stood next to the woman to devour her child
41:17 as soon as the child was born.
41:18 Which was the empire that attempted to slay Christ
41:21 when He was born? It was Rome.
41:23 And so this fourth beast without any horns
41:26 represents the Roman Empire.
41:28 But then, interestingly enough, from the head of this dragon
41:32 beast, after it has ruled for awhile, because the Roman Empire
41:35 ruled from 168 B.C. till 476 A.D. when the last Roman
41:41 emperor of the western empire was deposed.
41:44 The Roman empire was divided into ten kingdoms,
41:48 as a result of the Barbarian invasions.
41:51 And therefore from the head of this dragon beast come forth
41:55 ten horns. The ten horns were complete in the year 476 A.D.,
41:59 476 after Christ. And then you have a third stage to this
42:04 dragon beast. The first stage is the dragon beast by itself;
42:07 the Roman Empire.
42:08 The second stage is when the ten horns come out.
42:10 In other words that empire is divided.
42:13 And you know, it's still Rome because they come from the head
42:15 of the fourth beast which represents Rome.
42:17 And then among the ten, after the year 476, you have a little
42:22 horn that rises among the ten.
42:25 And it uproots three, and it speaks blasphemies
42:28 against the Most High.
42:30 It persecutes the saints of the Most High, and it thinks that it
42:34 can do something very interesting.
42:37 Notice Daniel 7:25.
42:40 The key word that we notice in several of these statements
42:44 that we just read.
42:45 It says in Daniel 7:25 the following: He shall speak
42:52 pompous words against the Most High.
42:55 Revelation identifies those words as blasphemies.
42:58 Do you know what blasphemy is?
42:59 Blasphemy is defined in the Bible first of all when a mere
43:04 man claims to be God, and secondly when a mere man
43:08 claims to have the power to forgive sins.
43:10 Jesus was accused of blasphemy because He said He was God.
43:14 Well, they were wrong, and He was right, because He was God.
43:16 But He was accused of blasphemy.
43:18 And He was also accused of blasphemy because He claimed
43:22 to have the power to forgive sins, and He did.
43:24 But when a mere man claims to be God, and a mere man claims to
43:29 have the power to forgive sins, that's blasphemy.
43:31 And this little horn speaks blasphemies.
43:34 And then it continues saying: He shall persecute
43:35 the saints of the Most High.
43:38 This would be a persecuting power
43:40 against God's faithful people.
43:42 And then we have this interesting characteristic:
43:47 and shall intend to what? to change times and law.
43:53 If you look at Roman Catholic Catechisms...
43:56 By the way, this little horn represents the
43:57 Roman Catholic Papacy.
43:58 Is the Roman Catholic Papacy Roman?
44:02 Does it come from ancient pagan Rome?
44:05 Did it arise amidst the ten kingdoms represented by the ten
44:10 horns? Did it persecute God's people?
44:13 Does it claim to have God's representative on earth?
44:16 Does it claim to have the power to forgive sins?
44:19 Did it rule for 1,260 years, for times and the dividing of time?
44:25 Absolutely! Did it claim to have the power to change
44:29 God's holy law? Yes.
44:31 If you go to Roman Catholic Catechisms you'll find
44:34 something very interesting.
44:35 And I checked out fifty of them once in a
44:37 Roman Catholic bookstore.
44:38 You know, it's interesting that the second commandment in the
44:43 Catechism's disappears; the one that says that you're not
44:47 supposed to worship idols.
44:48 Why do you suppose the Roman Catholic Church would
44:51 remove that commandment?
44:52 Well because their temples and their churches are filled with
44:59 idols that people bow before.
45:01 And so they take out the second commandment, and you end up
45:04 with nine commandments.
45:05 So you have to end up with ten, because the Bible
45:07 says that there are ten.
45:08 And so what they do is they divide the tenth commandment
45:11 into two: don't covet your neighbors wife, and don't covet
45:15 your neighbors things basically.
45:17 But the tenth commandment, covetousness, is
45:19 just one commandment.
45:20 I mean coveting things, or coveting your neighbors wife,
45:23 that's just one commandment: Thou shalt not covet.
45:25 And so the Roman Catholic Church has taken out the commandment
45:29 that says don't worship idols, and it ends up with nine,
45:32 so it has to divide commandment number ten into two
45:35 to end up with ten.
45:37 But the Roman Catholic Church has done something else
45:39 to change God's law, which is even more serious,
45:42 and that is all of the statements that we've read
45:45 clearly state that the Roman Catholic Church, by tradition
45:49 has felt that it had the authority to change what?
45:54 to change the Sabbath to a different day,
45:57 the Sabbath to Sunday.
45:59 Are you with me or not?
46:01 Now, why can't Christians see that it was the
46:04 Papacy that did this?
46:05 I'm going to tell you very briefly.
46:08 You see, the Protestant reformers followed a system
46:11 of interpreting prophecy which is known as historicism.
46:15 It's basically the idea that prophecy fulfills with a flow
46:20 without interruption from the times of the prophet,
46:23 till the times of the coming of Jesus Christ.
46:26 It's like Daniel 7.
46:28 You have Babylon, MedoPersia, Greece, Rome, the Roman empire,
46:32 the Roman empire is divided, and then you have another Rome
46:35 that arises immediately after that, which does all of
46:38 the things that we've described.
46:40 Is it very difficult to determine who followed the
46:43 Roman empire when it was divided?
46:45 No, all you have to do is look at the history books.
46:48 Which was the Rome that came up, the religious Rome,
46:51 the little horn Rome that came up after the Roman
46:54 empire was divided?
46:55 I mean there's no debate about it.
46:57 It is the Roman Catholic Church.
46:59 But, you know, the way that Protestants interpret
47:02 the little horn of Daniel 7?
47:04 They've gone astray from the Protestant reformers
47:07 that they came from.
47:09 They say, no, no, no, the little horn represents a nasty
47:15 individual who's going to arise in the future
47:18 after the rapture of the church, over in the Middle East.
47:21 The church will be safe in heaven.
47:24 And therefore the little horn has nothing to do
47:27 with church history.
47:28 And other protestants, the main line Protestants, they say,
47:31 Oh, no, no, the little horn was a nasty individual called
47:35 Antiochus Epiphanes, who lived a 165 years before Christ.
47:39 You know, he desecrated the Jewish temple.
47:41 He sacrificed a pig on the altar and desecrated it.
47:44 That was the little horn of Daniel 7.
47:47 And so, basically, what they're doing is they're projecting the
47:49 anti-Christ to the distant future, or the distant past,
47:52 and therefore they cannot see what the Roman Catholic Church
47:55 did within church history.
47:57 Are you understanding me or not?
47:58 It's because of a wrong interpretation, a wrong method
48:01 of interpreting prophecy, that Protestants have bought into
48:05 the idea that the Sabbath today is Sunday.
48:09 And they think that it's in the Bible,
48:10 but it's not in the Bible.
48:11 In fact in our next lecture we're going to study all of the
48:15 texts of the New Testament that speak about
48:17 the first day of the week.
48:18 We're going to examine every single one,
48:20 there are only eight of them, to see if Protestants can really
48:24 base their idea of Sunday observance on Scripture,
48:29 or whether it is a tradition that comes from
48:31 the Roman Catholic Church.
48:33 I want to read a statement.
48:34 This was written by Ellen White.
48:36 And do you remember the word offspring?
48:39 That Sunday is the offspring of the Roman Catholic Church?
48:44 Now notice this is in the book, Last Day Events, page 123.
48:48 It says there:
49:04 That is the little horn.
49:09 Which, by the way, is the church.
49:44 Here's another interesting statement.
49:46 This one is even more explicit. It comes from:
49:55 Notice the terminology.
49:57 That's the little horn, or the beast.
50:11 What? Ah, there's the offspring idea again.
50:23 In other words rocks it in the cradle.
50:36 In another statement that's found in... She says:
50:53 And then she says in Volume 9 of the Testimonies, page 211,
51:13 And you say, Pastor, it's not the same to worship the sun
51:17 as it is to worship on the Sunday, is it?
51:19 It most certainly is in principle.
51:22 Let me explain the reason why.
51:24 Let me ask you, who made the first day of the week? God did.
51:29 Did He make it for worship?
51:30 No, it's a work day.
51:32 So what happens if you make the first day of the week
51:35 a day of worship? What is that called?
51:39 It's idolatry. Let me ask you, Who made the sun?
51:42 Did God make the sun for worship?
51:45 So what happens if you make the sun an object of worship?
51:48 What is that called? idolatry.
51:51 You see, it doesn't matter whether human beings make
51:54 the sun an object of worship, or make the
51:57 Sunday a day of worship.
51:59 Whatever man makes for worship that God did not make
52:02 for worship is what? is idolatry.
52:05 So it doesn't matter if it's a day.
52:08 It doesn't matter if it's the sun.
52:10 The principle is that whatever man makes for worship that
52:14 God did not make for worship, is idolatry.
52:17 In Review and Herald, March 8, 1898, the same author says:
52:47 Do you see what the issue is?
52:49 You see folks, the final issue is going to be one of authority.
52:53 Will it be God and the Bible, and His Holy Sabbath,
52:59 or will it be the Papacy, and tradition, and its Sabbath?
53:04 Is homage going to be paid to God, by worshipping on the day
53:08 that He created for worship, or are we going to pay homage to
53:12 the Papacy by keeping the day that the Papacy established
53:16 as the day of worship?
53:17 Thus to worship God is keeping His commandments,
53:22 whereas worshipping the beast means to keep the commandments
53:26 of the beast. Are you seeing what the issues are?
53:29 Folks, it's not an issue of one day versus another day.
53:33 The days are simply the way in which God tests us to see
53:36 if we will obey Him, or whether we will obey the beast.
53:40 It is a matter of which authority you accept.
53:43 When you keep God's Holy Sabbath, you are saying,
53:47 I am keeping the day that God established for worship.
53:50 God is my authority.
53:52 But when you keep Sunday as the day of worship,
53:55 you're saying, I am honoring the power that claims to have
53:58 changed the day of worship.
53:59 You are honoring the Papacy who claims to have changed
54:02 the day of worship from Sabbath to Sunday.
54:05 The issue is who will be the authority in your life?
54:08 In Volume 19, of Manuscript Releases 244, Ellen White makes
54:15 this interesting statement. She says:
54:30 They have what? subverted the Christian faith into what?
54:58 You see, the Bible in terms too clear to be misunderstood,
55:02 repeatedly tells us that the seventh day is the Sabbath
55:07 of the Lord. And yet the Roman Catholic Church and Protestants
55:10 inform us, No, Sunday is the Sabbath.
55:13 On what grounds can they do this?
55:15 Certainly not on Biblical grounds, but on the basis
55:19 of human tradition.
55:21 But, you know, the Roman Catholic Church, in the course
55:24 of time has become craftier.
55:27 John Paul II wrote a pastor a letter called Dies Domini,
55:30 and in that document, which we're going to study in our
55:34 next lecture, he made a valiant effort to defend Sunday
55:38 sacredness from a Biblical perspective. because he's trying
55:41 Because he's trying to convince Protestants that Sunday
55:45 observance is something that is found in Scripture.
55:48 But when you examine this letter that he wrote, Dies Domini,
55:52 which means, On the Lord's Day, he appealed to all kinds of
55:57 philosophical arguments, sophisticated philosophical
56:00 arguments based on human reason.
56:03 Yet none of his arguments are persuasive to those who take
56:07 the Bible as their only standard of truth.
56:11 In our next lecture we are going to take a look at the arguments
56:15 that were used by John Paul II in his document,
56:20 or in his pastoral letter, Dies Domini.
56:23 So the question, folks, then is this,
56:26 which will be our authority?
56:29 Will it be God's written word, or will it be human tradition?
56:34 You see, folks, what existed in the days of Christ
56:38 exist in the Christian world today.
56:40 In the days of Christ the Sabbath that the Pharisees
56:44 established was a human Sabbath created by them by tradition.
56:47 At the end of time, the Sabbath that is kept by the Christian
56:51 world, is also a man made Sabbath.
56:54 A Sabbath based on tradition.
56:55 The only difference is that in the times of Christ they kept
57:00 the Sabbath in the wrong way, whereas at the end of time
57:04 the Christian world will keep the wrong day.
57:07 But in principle it's the same.
57:09 It's man made Sabbath versus God's Sabbath.
57:13 And that will be the issue that will separate humanity.
57:17 It will be the crisis over the seal of God, which is God's
57:21 Sabbath, and the Mark of the Beast,
57:23 which is the counterfeit day of worship.


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