Hello again everybody!
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I am very glad that
you're here this evening
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to study God's Word.
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This is number six in the series
on, The Bible or Tradition?
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And this evening we are going to
study Part 2 of the topic titled
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The Roman
Catholic View of Tradition.
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However, before we do we
want to have a word of prayer
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to ask for the Lord's presence.
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And so I invite you to bow
your heads with me as we implore
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the Lord's presence with us.
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Let us pray. Father in heaven,
thank You so much for this
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wonderful day
that you have given us.
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We thank You Father, for the
privilege of opening Your word
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now, and we ask that as we
open Your Word You will open the
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hearts of those who are present,
as well as those who are
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watching this
program on television,
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and through the Internet.
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Give us willing and open hearts
and minds to receive the word,
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and to live in harmony
with every word that proceeds
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out of the mouth of God.
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We thank You Father, for
hearing our prayer for we ask it
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in Jesus' name, Amen.
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In our last study together we
considered three Roman Catholic
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sources that helped us
understand the Roman Catholic
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view of tradition.
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Those three sources were,
first of all, the Roman Catholic
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Catechism, secondly
the Conciliar Declaration
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Dei Verbum, that
is on the word of God,
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and then we examined several
statements from Roman Catholic
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theologians about the Roman
Catholic view of tradition.
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And we noticed in our study
that the Roman Catholic view
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of tradition is virtually
identical to the view that the
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Jews had in the days of Christ.
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In both systems you
have three elements,
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the same three elements:
1. You have what is called a
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sacred deposit of tradition,
which is composed of the
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written scriptures, and
the unwritten oral traditions.
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In both Judaism
and Roman Catholicism
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you have that first point.
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You also have, in both concepts,
a transmitting mechanism,
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a way in which the oral
traditions can supposedly,
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be transmitted in
a trustworthy way.
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And in Judaism you have this
system of transmission which,
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supposedly preserves the oral
traditions intact, as they were
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originally given to Moses.
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In the case of the Roman
Catholic Church, supposedly
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those oral traditions are kept
intact from the time that they
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were given to Simon Peter.
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And then we noticed
that in both Judaism,
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and in Roman Catholicism, there
is also the idea of a living
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interpreter of the traditions
at every stage of the history
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in the process of transmission.
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And so you have these identical
three elements in Judaism,
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as well as in Roman
Catholicism: a sacred deposit,
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2. A transmitting mechanism.
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3. A living interpreter
at every stage in the
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process of transmission.
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We also noticed that the
terminology that is used,
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for example in Mark 7, and
the terminology that is used
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in those Roman Catholic
sources is virtually identical.
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Words and expressions such
as: tradition, handed down,
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passed on, received,
hold, unbroken succession,
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all are terms that
are used in Mark 7,
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and elsewhere in the gospels.
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And those same terms are
used in Roman Catholic sources
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about the Roman
Catholic view of tradition.
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We also noticed that in
both systems they claimed that
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there was someone
to whom God gave the
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original oral traditions.
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In the case of Judaism,
God supposedly gave the oral
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traditions to Moses, and
then Moses handed them on.
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In Roman Catholicism the
idea is that these traditions
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were given to Simon Peter, and
Simon Peter passed them along.
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We also noticed that in Judaism
the scribes and Pharisees
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claimed to sit on Moses' seat.
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That word seat, by the
way, in Greek is cathedra.
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In other words, they
spoke from the cathedra.
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And it's interesting
that in Roman Catholicism,
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when the Pope speaks
infallibly, and with authority,
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in the matter of doctrines,
and observances, he speaks
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ex cathedra, the very same word
that is used in Matthew 23:2
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to refer to the
scribes and the Pharisees.
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We also noticed that in both
systems they claimed that the
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written Scriptures, and oral
tradition are on the same level.
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But in actual practice oral
tradition is above the written
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Scriptures of the word of God.
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We also noticed that in both
systems the people were expected
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to render strict, and
unquestioning obedience
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to the words of their leaders,
or to the concepts that were
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taught by the church.
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And in both systems it was
believed that the lay people
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could not really determine
the meaning of the Scriptures;
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that only the theological
experts could give the
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Scriptures their true
sense, and their true meaning,
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and people simply had
to accept what they taught.
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And in the case of the times of
Christ, those who did not comply
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were expelled
from the synagogue.
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The Roman Catholic Church calls
it Excommunication, by the way.
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Now this was an interesting
way of controlling the masses.
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You know, Jesus Christ, and
His teachings were captivating
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to the multitudes.
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You read the gospels,
the multitudes followed
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Jesus Christ, thousands of
people followed Jesus Christ.
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But at the end of the life of
Jesus, the same people that had
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followed Him along clamored,
Crucify Him, Crucify Him!
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And the main reason was
that people could not understand
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how the religious
leaders could be wrong.
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They could not understand
how Jesus spoke against
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the religious leaders of
that time, when they had such
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a huge, and intensive respect
for the religious leaders.
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In other words, by controlling
the religious leaders,
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the devil was able
to control the people,
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both in the days of Christ, and
also throughout the Dark Ages,
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and it will happen once
again at the end of time.
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Now I'd like to read a
statement that we find in
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The Great Controversy, page
595, where Ellen White describes
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how through the concepts of
the leaders, the theological
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concepts of the
leaders, the devil is able to
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control the multitudes.
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This is how it reads:
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And now notice:
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Do you see the principle here?
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In other words, control the
leaders, and through the leaders
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you can control the populous;
you can control the people.
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Interestingly, Ellen
White compares the plight of the
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populous in Christ's day,
with the condition of the people
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in the Roman
Catholic Church today.
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Regarding the control of the
Jewish leaders over the people,
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Ellen White had this to say:
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Who was the chief
of the priesthood?
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It was the High
Priest, Ananias and Caiaphas.
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Now notice this:
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Is it just possible that the
Roman Catholic view of tradition
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at the end of time,
will also lead people to
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reject Jesus Christ as
their Redeemer? Absolutely!
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Because it's an identical
view, as we've been studying.
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Now, regarding the
control of the Roman Catholic,
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and Protestant clergy over their
masses, Ellen White had this
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to say. And this is a
rather lengthy statement,
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but it is charged with
very, very important details,
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so I'm going to take a view
minutes to read this passage
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from the book, The Great
Controversy, pages 595-597.
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Notice how she compares what
happened in the days of Christ,
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with what happens in
Roman Catholicism. She says:
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See, that the control wasn't
going to cease when the Jews
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were dispersed after
Jerusalem was destroyed.
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She continues saying:
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Now you need to understand what
Ellen White means when she says,
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It is withheld
from the common people.
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During the Dark Ages
it was literally withheld.
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In other words, people, I'm
going to read in a few moments
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a few statements where in church
councils, they actually forbade
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people to have copies of
the Scriptures and to read them.
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But Ellen White knew at
her time, that in some cases
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the Roman Catholic
Church was encouraging people
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to read the Scriptures.
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What she means is explained
in the next few sentences,
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so lets continue
reading. She says:
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Now here comes the explanation.
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And then she says:
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So, in other words, what she's
saying by the word withhold
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the Scriptures, is that the
Roman Catholic Church allows
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people to read the Scriptures,
and in some cases encourages
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people these days
to read the Scriptures,
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but they are to
accept the interpretation
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given by the church.
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And so it's as if they are not
really reading the Scriptures.
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They are withheld from them
in the sense that they are not
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allowed to interpret the
Scriptures for themselves.
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Ellen White continues saying:
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It's talking about pastors here.
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She continues saying:
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So when you don't study
the Scriptures for yourself
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you are chained in error, is
what Ellen White is saying here.
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She continues saying:
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What a powerful statement
about what is really happening
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in the Christian world today.
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There are so few
Christians today that even read
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the Scriptures for themselves.
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You know, it kind of reminds
me of a story of an evangelist
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who once went to visit a farmer,
and he wanted to persuade him
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that his view of
Scripture was correct.
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And, of course, he needed
to find out, first of all,
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what the farmer believed, so
he says, Sir, could you tell me
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what you believe? And the
farmer says, Well, I believe
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what my church believes.
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And he wasn't about to
give up so he says, Well, what
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does your church believe?
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And the farmer says, Well, my
church believes what I believe.
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And he still wasn't
going to give up, so he says,
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What do you and
your church believe?
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We both believe the same thing.
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There are many
Christians that are that way.
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They can't think for themselves.
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They can't speak for themselves.
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They simply accept the
authority of their church
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without reflection,
and without investigation.
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And thus they are
caught in the chains of error,
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as it is
described by Ellen White.
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Now let me give you some
examples from Roman Catholic
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theology about how
the Roman Catholic Church
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majors in minors. Do you
remember that in the times of
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Christ you had an absurd
casuistry where they tried
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to dictate every little detail
about how life should go on,
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and what you should do,
and what you shouldn't do?
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Well, in the Roman Catholic
Church you don't have the Talmud
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where you have this collection
of oral sayings that were
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finally codified, you
have what is called Cannon Law.
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Now we have some former
Roman Catholics here who know
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very well what I
mean by Cannon Law.
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Now the Cannon Law was codified
in 1752, and I want to share
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with you an interesting question
here that comes from Cannon Law.
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Now listen to it.
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You know what
Extreme Unction is, right?
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It's called today the
anointing of the sick.
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It's our equivalent of
anointing, only they believe
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that the oil has virtue, and
the oil has power. But anyway:
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Or in the final rites.
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Of course, because the
lipstick is between the oil
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and the mouth, right?
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Now notice the answer.
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Does that sound similar to
the traditions that existed
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in the days of
Christ? Absolutely!
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It's nitpicking! Of course
they believe that there's virtue
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in the oil. The
oil itself has power.
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And if there's this barrier
between the oil and your mouth,
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it's not going to
have a powerful effect.
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Now commenting on this
prescription of Cannon Law,
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Jaroslav Pelikan, who is
a theologian who wrote about
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Roman Catholicism.
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He actually wrote a book called,
The Riddle of Roman Catholicism,
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had this to say:
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Does that sound very similar
to what happened in the days of
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Christ, where people
never actually knew if they were
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obeying because there
were so many prescriptions
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and proscriptions that they
could not keep up? Absolutely!
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This is the same problem that
existed in the days of Christ.
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Thus the Jewish laws contained
in the Talmud are paralleled
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by the laws that are contained
in Roman Catholic Cannon Law.
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And, believe me, there
are thousands of casuistic
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regulations in
Roman Catholic Cannon Law.
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In 1983 the Code of
Cannon Law contained 7 books,
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and I'm not talking about
booklets, I'm talking about
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7 books, with 1,752 Cannons,
and many of those Cannons
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are subdivided in
multiple paragraphs.
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You're talking
about huge volumes,
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applying oral tradition
to every little circumstance,
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and every little act, and every
little thought that people have,
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just like in the days of Christ.
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Now lets talk a little
bit about the Roman Catholic
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view of marriage. I want to
read once again from the book,
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The Riddle of Roman Catholicism,
by Jaroslav Pelikan.
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He's a very respected scholar
that knows Roman Catholicism
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forwards and backwards.
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I want you to notice what he
says about the Roman Catholic
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view of marriage.
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Of course who
determines whether it was valid?
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Ha ha, the Bishop and the Pope.
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A convert, listen to this!
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Now where in the Bible do
you find all of these details
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about what you can do, and what
you can't do regarding marriage?
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Does this sound like a
problem that existed in Mark 7?
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Actually, folks, a mockery
is made of marriage when you
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qualify it, and we
create all kinds of exceptions,
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and you're adding to
the commandment of God.
00:20:17.88\00:20:20.41
Many times the traditions of the
Roman Catholic Church actually
00:20:20.44\00:20:24.96
contradict the
clear word of God.
00:20:24.99\00:20:26.79
Lets read a statement from the
Council of Trent about marriage,
00:20:26.82\00:20:33.32
and you tell me if
this sounds like the Bible.
00:20:33.35\00:20:35.10
Now does that sound like
Scripture? Of course not!
00:20:55.39\00:20:59.93
In the Bible the
ideal is marriage;
00:20:59.96\00:21:03.35
from the very beginning.
00:21:03.38\00:21:04.94
In fact, in Genesis
1:28 God created marriage.
00:21:04.97\00:21:09.99
Jesus honored marriage
by going to a wedding feast
00:21:10.02\00:21:13.87
at the
beginning of His ministry.
00:21:13.90\00:21:15.45
In fact all of the original
bishops, elders, deacons,
00:21:15.48\00:21:19.48
pastors, were all
married, including he who the
00:21:19.51\00:21:23.49
Roman Catholic Church
believes was the first Pope,
00:21:23.52\00:21:25.69
because Peter
had a mother-in-law.
00:21:25.72\00:21:28.72
And if he had a mother-in-law,
he must have been married.
00:21:28.75\00:21:32.52
And so a mockery is
made of what the Bible says,
00:21:32.55\00:21:37.02
because of these oral traditions
that have been handed down
00:21:37.05\00:21:40.34
from generation to generation.
00:21:40.37\00:21:42.87
Now lets talk a little bit
about the Roman Catholic view
00:21:42.90\00:21:46.13
of reading Scripture.
00:21:46.16\00:21:47.55
Now in this age of enlightenment
the Roman Catholic Church
00:21:47.58\00:21:53.05
does not forbid the reading of
Scripture, because that wouldn't
00:21:53.08\00:21:56.16
go over very
well with the media.
00:21:56.19\00:21:58.14
You know, forbidding
people to read certain things,
00:21:58.17\00:22:00.32
or to look at certain things.
00:22:00.35\00:22:01.73
But in the past the Roman
Catholic Church has had clear
00:22:01.76\00:22:04.92
laws in church councils, where
they have forbade lay people
00:22:04.95\00:22:09.01
from reading Scripture.
00:22:09.04\00:22:10.09
For example, Cannon 14 of
the Council of Toulouse, France,
00:22:10.12\00:22:16.07
in 1229 said this:... By
the way, this is a council
00:22:16.10\00:22:20.72
of the Roman Catholic Church.
00:22:20.75\00:22:21.95
That is the Psalms.
00:22:31.65\00:22:32.68
Now when it means the vulgar
tongue, it means the tongue
00:22:44.24\00:22:46.98
that people spoke at that time.
00:22:47.01\00:22:48.60
In other words, not in Latin,
because the Roman Catholic
00:22:48.63\00:22:52.19
Church kept everything in
Latin during the Dark Ages.
00:22:52.23\00:22:55.57
So basically it's forbidding
the Bible to the laity
00:22:55.60\00:22:58.91
in this church council.
00:22:58.94\00:23:00.03
By the way, this is the reason
why William Tyndale was burned
00:23:00.06\00:23:03.88
at the stake; for translating
the New Testament into English.
00:23:03.91\00:23:06.97
Now notice this statement that
we find from John Gilmary Schae.
00:23:07.00\00:23:13.16
He's a Roman Catholic, and he
had this to say about the reason
00:23:13.19\00:23:16.86
why the Bible was forbidden
to people during the Dark Ages.
00:23:16.89\00:23:20.15
He says:
00:23:20.18\00:23:21.21
Now I don't find
anywhere where the apostles say
00:23:33.07\00:23:36.83
that the text is obscure.
00:23:36.86\00:23:38.44
The text is clear.
00:23:38.47\00:23:42.13
The text is simple.
00:23:42.16\00:23:44.36
It's easy to understand.
00:23:44.39\00:23:45.47
But what he's saying is that:
00:23:45.50\00:23:47.73
And, of course, the
idea is because it's obscure,
00:23:57.60\00:23:59.99
only the experts, who
are able to read the original
00:24:00.02\00:24:02.53
language, are able to
tell the people what it means.
00:24:02.56\00:24:04.67
It continues saying:
00:24:04.70\00:24:06.38
That is the translations
in the language of the people.
00:24:38.30\00:24:40.56
That is their priests.
00:24:52.04\00:24:53.07
So here's a Roman Catholic
scholar admitting that the
00:24:59.39\00:25:01.49
Roman Catholic Church
forbade lay people from reading
00:25:01.52\00:25:04.41
the Scriptures, even
the Roman Catholic version
00:25:04.44\00:25:07.09
of the Scriptures.
00:25:07.12\00:25:08.29
Now notice what the
Council of Trent had to say
00:25:08.32\00:25:12.13
in Rules On Prohibited
Books, which was, by the way,
00:25:12.16\00:25:17.45
approved by Pope Pius IV
in 1564, just one year after
00:25:17.48\00:25:21.36
the Council of
Trent came to an end.
00:25:21.39\00:25:23.30
This declaration by
the Council of Trent was
00:25:23.33\00:25:25.97
approved by Pope Pius IV.
00:25:26.00\00:25:28.37
And remember that the
Pope speaks from the throne.
00:25:28.40\00:25:31.45
He speaks from the cathedra.
00:25:31.48\00:25:33.22
So notice what it says.
00:25:33.25\00:25:34.58
That is in the
language of the people.
00:25:44.05\00:25:46.01
Are you understanding
what this statement is saying?
00:26:18.88\00:26:21.46
Notice what it continues saying.
00:26:21.49\00:26:25.11
In other words they have
to hand over their copies
00:26:37.47\00:26:39.39
of the Bible to the church.
00:26:39.42\00:26:40.92
Isn't that interesting?
00:27:10.49\00:27:12.32
Church councils saying
that lay people could not have
00:27:12.35\00:27:17.59
copies of the Bible
in their own language!
00:27:17.62\00:27:20.23
How is it that in the Roman
Catholic system, in its church
00:27:20.26\00:27:24.58
councils, they can
condemn the reading of the Bible
00:27:24.61\00:27:27.83
by the common lay
person when Jesus stated,
00:27:27.86\00:27:31.12
Search the Scriptures, and when
the Apostle Paul clearly said
00:27:31.15\00:27:35.51
that the Scriptures are able
to make one wise unto salvation.
00:27:35.54\00:27:39.87
Clearly Roman Catholic
tradition has made the word of
00:27:39.91\00:27:44.09
God of none effect.
00:27:44.12\00:27:46.41
They have made of none
effect the words of Paul,
00:27:46.44\00:27:48.95
and they've made of none
effect the words of Jesus.
00:27:48.98\00:27:52.18
Now I'm going to
include something that's not
00:27:52.21\00:27:55.33
specifically in your handout.
00:27:55.36\00:27:57.54
You know that Constantine
proclaimed a civil Sunday law
00:27:57.57\00:28:02.36
on March 7, 321. By the
way, this was not a religious
00:28:02.39\00:28:08.83
Sunday law, this was a
civil Sunday law in 321.
00:28:08.86\00:28:13.31
And this is how it read: Let
all the judges and town people,
00:28:13.34\00:28:17.44
and the occupation of
all trades rest on the
00:28:17.47\00:28:22.16
venerable day of the Sun.
00:28:22.19\00:28:24.48
Now soon this law,
which was a civil law,
00:28:24.51\00:28:29.46
morphed into a religious law.
00:28:29.50\00:28:31.45
It didn't take very long
because today you have this idea
00:28:31.48\00:28:34.96
that in Europe they are pushing
the European Parliament to
00:28:35.00\00:28:39.81
enact a Sunday
law all over Europe.
00:28:39.84\00:28:44.93
And it's for social
reasons, for family reasons,
00:28:44.96\00:28:48.64
so that people can rest
because they work too hard.
00:28:48.67\00:28:52.02
But whenever you have a
Sunday law for social reasons,
00:28:52.05\00:28:55.84
it always morphs
into a religious law.
00:28:55.87\00:28:58.33
It didn't take very long.
00:28:58.36\00:28:59.56
Cannon 29 of the
Synod of Laodicea in 336,
00:28:59.59\00:29:06.59
just a few years
later, had this to say about
00:29:06.62\00:29:12.23
the Sabbath and about Sunday.
00:29:12.26\00:29:15.05
Christians must not Judiaze
by resting on the Sabbath.
00:29:15.08\00:29:21.82
In other words, Christians
should not act like the Jews
00:29:21.85\00:29:24.61
by resting on the Sabbath.
00:29:24.64\00:29:26.15
But must work on that day,
rather honoring the Lord's day.
00:29:26.18\00:29:31.19
Are you understanding what
this church council is saying?
00:29:31.22\00:29:36.20
It's saying that Christians
shall not keep the Sabbath
00:29:36.23\00:29:40.16
like the Jews, but they
must work on the Sabbath.
00:29:40.19\00:29:43.23
And rather than the
Sabbath, they should
00:29:43.26\00:29:45.91
honor the Lord's day.
00:29:45.94\00:29:46.97
And, if they can,
resting then as Christians.
00:29:47.00\00:29:51.95
But if any shall be found to be
Judiazers, that is keeping the
00:29:51.98\00:29:56.68
Sabbath along with the Jews, let
them be anathema from Christ.
00:29:56.71\00:30:01.30
The word anathema
means to be Excommunicated.
00:30:01.33\00:30:03.87
Anathema means,
let him be accursed.
00:30:03.90\00:30:06.56
In other words, the church is
pronouncing a curse upon those
00:30:06.59\00:30:10.14
who keep the
Sabbath that the Jews kept.
00:30:10.17\00:30:12.33
Now is this making the word of
God of none effect? Of course!
00:30:12.36\00:30:17.15
The word of God clearly says
that the seventh day Sabbath
00:30:17.18\00:30:19.93
is the day of the Lord.
00:30:19.96\00:30:21.54
It's the Lord's day.
00:30:21.57\00:30:22.61
And when the
Roman Catholic Church,
00:30:22.64\00:30:24.82
in this Synod of Laodicea,
and this was confirmed also
00:30:24.85\00:30:29.29
in the Council
of Chalcedon in 451.
00:30:29.32\00:30:31.39
When the Roman Catholic Church
says, No, you will be accursed
00:30:31.42\00:30:34.97
if you keep the Sabbath.
00:30:35.00\00:30:36.03
You need to keep Sunday
because it's the Lord's day.
00:30:36.06\00:30:39.02
Clearly Roman Catholic
tradition is contradicting
00:30:39.05\00:30:42.12
openly the word of God.
00:30:42.15\00:30:44.17
Now lets talk a little
bit about the role of Mary
00:30:44.20\00:30:48.42
in the Roman Catholic Church.
00:30:48.45\00:30:49.75
This is the biggest example
that I'm going to share with you
00:30:49.78\00:30:52.32
in our study today.
00:30:52.35\00:30:53.60
And many of you who did not
grow up in the Roman Catholic
00:30:53.63\00:30:56.33
Church are going to be
surprised by some of the things
00:30:56.36\00:30:58.79
that I'm going to say.
00:30:58.82\00:31:00.09
I grew up a Protestant.
00:31:00.12\00:31:02.95
I grew up a Seventh-day
Adventist from the time
00:31:02.98\00:31:04.63
that I was born into a
Seventh-day Adventist family.
00:31:04.66\00:31:06.77
The only reason I know
all of these things is because
00:31:06.80\00:31:09.70
I've had to study it,
because I taught a class in
00:31:09.73\00:31:12.72
Roman Catholic
theology when I taught in our
00:31:12.75\00:31:15.08
University in Columbia.
00:31:15.11\00:31:16.25
And, of course, I grew
up in Columbia, Venezuela,
00:31:16.28\00:31:18.85
where the religion at that
time was almost 100% Catholic.
00:31:18.88\00:31:22.12
So I came much into
contact with Roman Catholics,
00:31:22.15\00:31:25.67
and the Roman Catholic Church.
00:31:25.70\00:31:26.88
Now there was a Roman Catholic
scholar priest by the name of
00:31:26.91\00:31:30.74
Saint Alphonsus Liluori, and
he was one of the most prolific
00:31:30.77\00:31:35.80
writers of the
Roman Catholic Church.
00:31:35.83\00:31:37.55
Actually, he wrote 22 volumes.
00:31:37.58\00:31:40.51
22 volumes have been published
from Saint Alphonusus Liguori.
00:31:40.55\00:31:44.75
He was canonized as a Saint
of the Roman Catholic Church
00:31:44.79\00:31:48.74
by Pope Gregory XIV in the
year 1839, and he was declared
00:31:48.77\00:31:54.96
a Doctor of the
Church by Pope Pius IX.
00:31:54.99\00:31:58.54
And, by the way, there are
only 32 Doctors of the Church
00:31:58.57\00:32:02.06
in the Roman Catholic Church.
00:32:02.09\00:32:03.39
They are the cream of
the crop when it comes to
00:32:03.42\00:32:06.46
scholarship in the
Roman Catholic Church.
00:32:06.49\00:32:08.76
Now one of the
books that were written by
00:32:08.79\00:32:14.35
Saint Alphonsus Liguori is
called, The Glories of Mary.
00:32:14.38\00:32:18.94
And in Roman Catholic
theology, it's considered to be
00:32:18.97\00:32:22.04
one of his masterpieces.
00:32:22.07\00:32:23.33
Basically, this book
provides all of the wisdom,
00:32:23.36\00:32:29.42
in quotation marks, of all
of the great thinkers in the
00:32:29.45\00:32:33.48
history of the Roman Catholic
Church, up till the 17th century
00:32:33.51\00:32:37.17
on the importance of marriage in
relationship to the individual,
00:32:37.20\00:32:42.09
and in
relationship to the church.
00:32:42.12\00:32:44.07
Now I want to
emphasize that this book is not
00:32:44.10\00:32:47.57
simply Liguori's opinion.
00:32:47.60\00:32:49.62
It is actually a collection
of all of the oral traditions
00:32:49.65\00:32:54.43
that have supposedly been
passed down all the way from
00:32:54.46\00:32:57.68
the times of the apostles.
00:32:57.71\00:32:58.96
It includes all of
the Roman Catholic wisdom
00:32:58.99\00:33:01.74
on the role of Mary.
00:33:01.77\00:33:03.56
Now I want to read from
Liguori himself the reason why
00:33:03.59\00:33:08.52
he wrote this book.
00:33:08.55\00:33:09.58
He says this in The
Glories of Mary, page 30.
00:33:09.61\00:33:12.97
Since when was Mary divine?
00:33:55.82\00:33:57.61
In other words, he wrote that
the purpose of this book was
00:33:57.64\00:34:01.94
to lead people to have a
strong devotion towards Mary.
00:34:01.97\00:34:07.02
Now basically the book
contains several chapters.
00:34:07.05\00:34:10.51
And in each one of the
chapters he seeks to prove
00:34:10.54\00:34:14.30
a certain point about Mary.
00:34:14.33\00:34:16.38
After he proves his point
he provides an illustration,
00:34:16.41\00:34:20.28
and after he provides an
illustration of that point,
00:34:20.31\00:34:23.36
then he ends the chapter
with a prayer offered to Mary.
00:34:23.39\00:34:28.14
Now the edition that I used
when I studied this was from the
00:34:28.17\00:34:32.03
Redemptorist Fathers.
00:34:32.06\00:34:33.17
It was published in 1931,
and it has the imprimatur,
00:34:33.20\00:34:38.03
that is the official
acceptance and condoning of the
00:34:38.06\00:34:42.86
Roman Catholic Church.
00:34:42.89\00:34:44.04
It has the imprimatur
by Cardinal Patrick Hayes,
00:34:44.07\00:34:49.26
and it was given
on April 16, 1931.
00:34:49.29\00:34:52.27
Now most of the statements
or quotations in this book
00:34:52.30\00:34:57.02
that Liguori uses, come from
the church fathers, many of them
00:34:57.05\00:35:01.32
from the church fathers from way
back in post-apostolic times,
00:35:01.35\00:35:05.51
all the way till the 17th
Century when he actually lived.
00:35:05.54\00:35:08.66
There are also
quotations from the Apocrypha,
00:35:08.69\00:35:11.71
the Apocrypha books, you know
the Roman Catholic Church uses
00:35:11.74\00:35:13.81
You know the Roman Catholic
uses 14 books, or portions of
00:35:13.84\00:35:15.88
books that are not
found in Protestant Bibles.
00:35:15.91\00:35:17.85
It uses, for
example, Ecclesiastics and
00:35:17.89\00:35:22.33
The Wisdom of
Solomon, which are included in
00:35:22.36\00:35:24.68
Roman Catholic Bibles.
00:35:24.71\00:35:25.93
And also it includes many
quotations from the book of
00:35:25.96\00:35:29.76
Proverbs, and from Song of
Solomon, where the relationship,
00:35:29.79\00:35:34.38
for example Song of Solomon
speaks about the relationship
00:35:34.41\00:35:37.85
between Solomon and his
bride, as an illustration of the
00:35:37.88\00:35:41.59
relationship between
Christ and His church.
00:35:41.62\00:35:43.92
Now the texts in this
book constantly are torn
00:35:43.95\00:35:48.65
out of their context.
00:35:48.68\00:35:49.81
Let me give you a few examples.
00:35:49.84\00:35:52.27
In this book on page 101,
Liguori says, If Mary is for us,
00:35:52.30\00:35:59.52
who can be against us?
00:35:59.55\00:36:01.20
Do you know where
that text comes from?
00:36:01.23\00:36:03.92
Romans 8:31, but in the original
it says, If Christ is for us,
00:36:03.95\00:36:07.52
who can be against us?
00:36:07.55\00:36:08.81
He also says on page 202 of
his book, Mary was prefigured
00:36:08.84\00:36:13.49
by the dove which returned to
Noah in the ark, with an olive
00:36:13.52\00:36:17.27
branch in its beak
as a pledge of the peace
00:36:17.30\00:36:19.85
which God granted to men.
00:36:19.88\00:36:21.67
In other words the
dove represented Mary.
00:36:21.70\00:36:23.56
Now where do you
find that in scripture?
00:36:23.59\00:36:25.15
On page 244 He says,
Saint Gregory said this:
00:36:25.18\00:36:29.40
So in other words, the city
of God is described gloriously
00:36:36.34\00:36:39.32
in Scripture, but
Mary is the city of God.
00:36:39.35\00:36:41.60
On pages 244 and 245
we find this statement:
00:36:41.63\00:36:46.34
That's 1 Timothy 2:19,
by the way. So once again:
00:36:55.93\00:37:00.69
Now comes the explanation.
00:37:08.03\00:37:09.31
So the seal you have
that shows that you are of God
00:37:16.74\00:37:21.39
is your devotion to Mary.
00:37:21.42\00:37:22.92
And it's interesting to notice
that after Liguori was buried...
00:37:22.95\00:37:29.61
He was buried in
Nosari, by the way.
00:37:29.64\00:37:31.62
...His grave was opened,
and three fingers from his right
00:37:31.66\00:37:36.99
hand were cut off, and
they were sent to Rome by the
00:37:37.03\00:37:41.69
wish of Pope Pius VII.
00:37:41.73\00:37:43.31
And the Pope
explained the reason why
00:37:43.34\00:37:45.27
his fingers were cut off.
00:37:45.30\00:37:46.33
And, by the way,
they're still there in Rome.
00:37:46.36\00:37:48.78
And so because those
were his writing fingers,
00:38:02.45\00:38:05.81
you know they have
to venerate the fingers,
00:38:05.84\00:38:08.00
and so the fingers are sent
to Rome because of all these
00:38:08.03\00:38:11.73
beautiful things
that he wrote about Mary.
00:38:11.76\00:38:13.30
In a few moments I'm going to
share some things that he wrote
00:38:13.33\00:38:15.36
about Mary, which
will be an eye opener.
00:38:15.39\00:38:17.82
Now one thing which is very
interesting is that everything
00:38:17.85\00:38:21.92
that the Bible attributes
to Christ, the Roman Catholic
00:38:21.95\00:38:24.64
Church attributes to Mary.
00:38:24.68\00:38:25.97
You have this statement in
Liguori, page 470, the edition
00:38:26.00\00:38:30.02
that I mentioned,
where Liguori says this:
00:38:30.05\00:38:33.78
And you'll find in this
book time and again expressions
00:38:45.74\00:38:48.40
such as, it was fitting, it
was necessary, it was befitting
00:38:48.43\00:38:53.08
that Mary go through the same
identical experiences as Jesus.
00:38:53.11\00:38:58.12
And as you read this
book, you discover that Mary is
00:38:58.15\00:39:01.60
actually a rival of Jesus.
00:39:01.63\00:39:03.92
Mary rivals Jesus! In
other words, everything that the
00:39:03.95\00:39:08.13
Bible applies exclusively to
Jesus, Liguori, and the church
00:39:08.16\00:39:13.22
fathers apply to Mary.
00:39:13.25\00:39:15.82
Now lets take one example.
00:39:15.85\00:39:18.30
The Roman Catholic
Church believes that Mary
00:39:18.33\00:39:21.47
was perpetually a virgin.
00:39:21.50\00:39:23.72
In other words, she not
only remained a virgin after
00:39:23.75\00:39:27.99
she had Jesus, which is out
of the ordinary, but she never
00:39:28.02\00:39:33.18
had sexual relations
with Joseph after that.
00:39:33.21\00:39:36.26
That's what the Roman
Catholic Church believes.
00:39:36.29\00:39:38.24
And she never,
never had other children.
00:39:38.27\00:39:40.96
Now can that be sustained
from Sscripture? It can't.
00:39:40.99\00:39:44.99
Let me explain why the Roman
Catholic Church believes that.
00:39:45.02\00:39:47.81
The reason the Roman Catholic
Church believes that is because
00:39:47.84\00:39:50.67
Saint Augustine, one of
the two great pillars of the
00:39:50.70\00:39:53.89
Roman Catholic
Church, in terms of theology:
00:39:53.92\00:39:56.12
one is Saint Augustine, and the
other is Saint Thomas Aquinas.
00:39:56.15\00:39:59.07
Those are the two tremendous
pillars of theology in the
00:39:59.10\00:40:02.78
Roman Catholic Church.
00:40:02.81\00:40:03.84
Saint Augustine believed
that original sin in the
00:40:03.87\00:40:07.83
Garden of Eden was sexual sin.
00:40:07.86\00:40:09.79
In other words, the tree was not
a literal tree, and the fruit
00:40:09.82\00:40:13.07
was not a literal fruit.
00:40:13.10\00:40:14.16
The tree was Eve, and
Adam partook of sex with Eve
00:40:14.19\00:40:18.27
before it was allowed.
00:40:18.30\00:40:20.08
And so original
sin was sexual sin.
00:40:20.11\00:40:22.92
And so in Roman Catholic
theology sex is mainly for
00:40:22.95\00:40:28.14
what? mainly for
procreation, not for pleasure.
00:40:28.17\00:40:31.20
Because sex in itself is evil.
00:40:31.23\00:40:34.28
And this is the real
reason why priests, and why nuns
00:40:34.31\00:40:38.19
don't get married.
00:40:38.22\00:40:39.25
It's not so that they
can devote more of their time
00:40:39.28\00:40:41.89
to the church. It's simply
because sex is seen as something
00:40:41.92\00:40:47.29
negative, something that
is primarily for procreation.
00:40:47.32\00:40:51.05
Now is there evidence in
Scripture that Mary did have
00:40:51.08\00:40:55.95
other children? Absolutely!
00:40:55.98\00:40:57.67
Lets notice the evidence.
00:40:57.70\00:40:59.53
In Luke 2:7,
speaking about Mary it says:
00:40:59.56\00:41:03.39
Now what does firstborn mean?
00:41:06.30\00:41:08.54
He's not the only begotten son.
00:41:08.57\00:41:11.36
He's the what?
the firstborn son.
00:41:11.39\00:41:14.35
So if she had a firstborn
son, that would hint that she
00:41:21.13\00:41:24.03
had other children.
00:41:24.06\00:41:25.09
Notice also Matthew 1:18.
00:41:25.12\00:41:28.12
This idea that she
was perpetually a virgin,
00:41:28.15\00:41:30.43
and Joseph never had
sexual relationships with her,
00:41:30.46\00:41:33.82
even after Jesus was born.
00:41:33.85\00:41:35.73
Notice Matthew 1:18.
00:41:35.76\00:41:38.63
So did they come
together after they got married?
00:41:49.51\00:41:52.30
Of course! Notice also Matthew
1:24, 25. Very clear! It says:
00:41:52.33\00:41:58.76
And now notice, and Joseph...
00:42:05.33\00:42:08.34
What does it mean
that he did not know her
00:42:16.10\00:42:18.47
until she had Jesus?
00:42:18.50\00:42:20.72
What does the word know mean?
00:42:20.75\00:42:23.22
It means to have
sexual relations.
00:42:23.25\00:42:25.87
Adam knew his wife,
and she conceived a son.
00:42:25.90\00:42:28.90
So there's clear evidence from
Scripture that Mary did have
00:42:28.93\00:42:34.11
a normal marriage with
Joseph, and most likely
00:42:34.14\00:42:37.58
she had other children.
00:42:37.61\00:42:38.82
Notice also Psalm 69:8.
00:42:38.85\00:42:41.76
You notice that this
is the Messianic Psalm,
00:42:41.79\00:42:46.43
because verse 9 says, zeal
for Your house has eaten Me up.
00:42:46.46\00:42:50.40
Do you remember
Jesus quoted that when He
00:42:50.43\00:42:51.99
cleansed the temple? zeal
for Your house has eaten Me up?
00:42:52.02\00:42:54.62
And also in that chapter, in
verse 21 you have, gall for food
00:42:54.65\00:42:59.82
and vinegar to drink,
that they gave to Jesus.
00:42:59.85\00:43:02.12
And that also is fulfilled
with Jesus in the New Testament.
00:43:02.15\00:43:05.35
But also in that
chapter the psalmist says:
00:43:05.38\00:43:09.42
And this is the
Messiah speaking.
00:43:12.79\00:43:14.75
To my... You know Jesus had
brothers, but they were the sons
00:43:19.60\00:43:23.50
of Joseph. But here it
says the mother's children,
00:43:23.53\00:43:27.59
which would clearly
indicate that Mary had children.
00:43:27.62\00:43:31.27
There's nothing
evil about sex within the
00:43:31.30\00:43:35.38
marriage relationship.
00:43:35.41\00:43:36.53
But in Roman Catholicism
it is looked upon as evil.
00:43:36.56\00:43:40.87
They might not openly admit
it, but you read their works,
00:43:40.90\00:43:44.31
you see Saint Augustine,
before he became a Christian,
00:43:44.34\00:43:48.48
and before he
devoted his life to the Lord,
00:43:48.51\00:43:51.01
he lived a very
promiscuous life.
00:43:51.04\00:43:53.46
And he described how he
struggled with the idea of sex,
00:43:53.49\00:43:57.63
until finally he wrote
about this idea that sex was the
00:43:57.66\00:44:02.32
original sin in
the Garden of Eden.
00:44:02.36\00:44:04.07
Now lets examine what
Liguori says that the fathers
00:44:04.10\00:44:08.66
stated about Mary.
00:44:08.69\00:44:10.91
Here's where it's going
to become very surprising.
00:44:10.94\00:44:13.40
Liguori says that the fathers
taught that Mary was conceived
00:44:13.43\00:44:18.73
without original sin.
00:44:18.76\00:44:20.04
This is known as the dogma
of the Immaculate Conception.
00:44:20.07\00:44:24.76
It doesn't mean that
Jesus was conceived without sin,
00:44:24.79\00:44:27.59
it means that Mary was
born without a sinful nature.
00:44:27.62\00:44:30.93
Where in the Bible do
you find any verse about
00:44:30.96\00:44:33.05
the birth of Mary?
00:44:33.08\00:44:34.11
Is there anything in
the Bible that talks about
00:44:34.14\00:44:36.61
the birth of Mary? No.
00:44:36.64\00:44:38.38
Is there anything that says
that Mary was born without a
00:44:38.41\00:44:41.89
sinful nature like Jesus?
00:44:41.92\00:44:43.23
They say, Well, if Jesus was
born without a sinful nature,
00:44:43.26\00:44:45.41
then His mother, you
know, she had to be born
00:44:45.44\00:44:47.72
without a sinful nature also.
00:44:47.75\00:44:49.18
In Roman Catholic theology Mary
is called the mother of God.
00:44:49.21\00:44:53.38
Is there any place in
the Bible that said she's
00:44:53.41\00:44:55.61
the mother of God? No!
00:44:55.64\00:44:57.36
She's the mother of
Christ, of the human Christ.
00:44:57.39\00:44:59.60
Roman Catholic theology in this
book, and other sources says
00:44:59.63\00:45:03.55
that Mary was
taken bodily to heaven.
00:45:03.58\00:45:05.40
It's known as the
Assumption of Mary.
00:45:05.43\00:45:07.30
You know some sources say that
she died, and three days later
00:45:07.33\00:45:11.35
she resurrected
and went to heaven.
00:45:11.38\00:45:12.95
It's kind of copying
what happened with Jesus.
00:45:12.98\00:45:15.08
Others say that she
didn't die, she was translated
00:45:15.11\00:45:17.71
without dying. But the point
is the Roman Catholic Church
00:45:17.74\00:45:20.82
believes that
she's in heaven now.
00:45:20.85\00:45:22.35
Now notice the reason
that is given by Karl Keating.
00:45:22.38\00:45:27.08
He's a Roman
Catholic theologian.
00:45:27.11\00:45:29.65
Notice the reason that he gives
why the Roman Catholic Church
00:45:29.68\00:45:33.82
believes in the Assumption
of Mary. Listen to this:
00:45:33.85\00:45:36.03
So he's admitting
there is no Biblical evidence
00:45:48.57\00:45:51.32
for the Assumption of Mary.
00:45:51.35\00:45:52.39
Now this doesn't make any sense!
00:46:02.52\00:46:04.35
Now that's real
scholarly, and real in touch.
00:46:11.67\00:46:16.30
Because the church says
so, you have to accept it.
00:46:16.33\00:46:18.57
Because it's one of
the traditions that has
00:46:18.60\00:46:20.69
been handed down.
00:46:20.72\00:46:21.86
Now listen to what
the Roman Catholic Church
00:46:21.89\00:46:24.34
believes about Mary.
00:46:24.37\00:46:25.42
This is from Liguori's book.
00:46:25.45\00:46:27.65
By the way, I have a few extra
copies if somebody would like
00:46:27.68\00:46:30.89
a copy of the book to read.
00:46:30.92\00:46:32.36
It's fascinating reading,
and it's frustrating reading.
00:46:32.39\00:46:35.41
It's blasphemous reading.
00:46:35.44\00:46:36.93
Because what I'm going to share
now about what the church says
00:46:36.96\00:46:40.78
about Mary is
nothing short of blasphemy.
00:46:40.81\00:46:43.27
You know, if Mary resurrected
now, she would die of a
00:46:43.30\00:46:46.07
heart attack if she saw
what the Roman Catholic Church
00:46:46.10\00:46:49.47
has done with her.
00:46:49.50\00:46:50.89
This is what is
taught in that book.
00:46:50.92\00:46:53.05
The world was
created by God and Mary.
00:46:53.08\00:46:56.97
She was born immaculate and
holy, without a sinful nature.
00:46:57.00\00:47:01.54
She never sinned
during her lifetime.
00:47:01.57\00:47:04.73
She is the
incarnation of the Holy Spirit.
00:47:04.76\00:47:08.35
See, because Jesus was
God, and He became incarnate,
00:47:08.38\00:47:13.18
so the Holy Spirit had
to be incarnate in Mary.
00:47:13.21\00:47:16.73
That's the idea. Where
does the Bible say that?
00:47:16.76\00:47:19.04
Where does the Bible
say any of these things?
00:47:19.07\00:47:21.02
Nowhere! It's tradition.
00:47:21.06\00:47:23.30
The book says, She is full
of grace and can dispense it
00:47:23.36\00:47:29.21
to human beings at will.
00:47:29.24\00:47:30.40
The book says she is a priest.
00:47:30.43\00:47:33.08
She is our
advocate, our mediator.
00:47:33.11\00:47:36.63
The last time I read my Bible,
it says we have one mediator
00:47:36.66\00:47:40.84
between God and man,
Jesus Christ the man.
00:47:40.87\00:47:43.67
And I want you to notice what
this declaration, Lumen Gentium,
00:47:43.70\00:47:49.15
which was one of
the proclamations at
00:47:49.18\00:47:51.69
Vatican Council II,
has to say about this.
00:47:51.72\00:47:54.68
Mary, supposedly.
00:47:56.27\00:47:58.17
Those are titles
that they give her.
00:48:18.33\00:48:22.62
You know they use John 3:16.
00:48:22.65\00:48:24.67
Mary loved the world that
she gave her only begotten Son.
00:48:24.70\00:48:28.44
They say Mary is our ladder.
00:48:28.47\00:48:31.23
Well, who is the ladder?
00:48:31.26\00:48:32.34
The Son of man is
the ladder, Jesus says.
00:48:32.37\00:48:35.06
They say we are supposed to
pray to Mary to ask for favors,
00:48:35.09\00:48:39.02
and Mary will answer us.
00:48:39.05\00:48:40.74
In fact, there's one father
that said we could only know
00:48:40.77\00:48:43.63
God through Mary.
00:48:43.66\00:48:44.69
Mary helps us
when we're tempted.
00:48:44.72\00:48:48.17
Mary is the way to the Father.
00:48:48.20\00:48:50.12
Mary is the door. Mary is the
rod out of the root of Jesse.
00:48:50.15\00:48:54.86
Wow! She is co-redemptrix.
00:48:54.89\00:49:00.02
Now the Roman Catholic Church
does not teach this as dogma
00:49:00.05\00:49:03.35
yet, but there's a strong
drive and pressure to recognize
00:49:03.38\00:49:07.22
Mary as
co-redemptrix with Jesus.
00:49:07.25\00:49:10.99
In fact, Roman Catholic theology
teaches that if Mary had not
00:49:11.02\00:49:14.79
consented to bring Jesus
into the world, there would have
00:49:14.82\00:49:17.53
been no redemption.
00:49:17.56\00:49:18.59
Now I want to read
from Kenneth Woodward.
00:49:18.62\00:49:22.38
Do you know who
Kenneth Woodward is?
00:49:22.41\00:49:23.85
The guy who with Bernstein
unveiled the Watergate thing?
00:49:23.88\00:49:29.77
He's a staunch Roman Catholic.
00:49:29.80\00:49:31.73
Notice what he has to say.
00:49:31.76\00:49:32.82
This is in an article in
Newsweek magazine titled,
00:49:32.85\00:49:35.63
Hail Mary, August 25, 1997.
00:49:35.66\00:49:39.05
This is on the drive to make
Mary a co-redemptrix. He says:
00:49:39.08\00:49:45.16
And then he says this:
00:50:23.72\00:50:26.00
That's blasphemy, folks.
00:50:41.47\00:50:43.44
There's nothing
in the Bible on that.
00:50:43.47\00:50:45.89
Not even the faintest hint!
00:50:45.92\00:50:47.67
Implicit, it's not there!
00:50:47.70\00:50:50.51
It comes purely
through tradition.
00:50:50.54\00:50:53.72
And those who are
looking to Mary for salvation,
00:50:53.75\00:50:55.59
they can't be saved.
00:50:55.62\00:50:56.72
Because there is no name
given under heaven whereby we
00:50:56.75\00:51:00.97
might be saved,
except the name of Jesus.
00:51:01.00\00:51:03.36
It is a salvation issue.
00:51:03.39\00:51:04.87
It's not like
Protestants are saying today,
00:51:04.90\00:51:09.49
Tony Palmer, for example.
00:51:09.52\00:51:10.76
He says, Oh it
doesn't really make any
00:51:10.79\00:51:12.30
difference what we believe.
00:51:12.33\00:51:13.36
If we have contrary
beliefs we'll settle that
00:51:13.39\00:51:15.76
when we get to heaven.
00:51:15.79\00:51:16.82
The fact is, if you think that
Mary is the one that you have
00:51:16.85\00:51:20.64
to look to for salvation, you're
not going to make it there
00:51:20.67\00:51:23.15
to unravel things.
00:51:23.18\00:51:24.65
Now notice what else we find.
00:51:24.68\00:51:28.66
This is Mark Miravalle who is
one of the ones who is strongly
00:51:28.69\00:51:32.29
fighting to make Mary
co-redemptrix. He says:
00:51:32.32\00:51:35.78
That is Mary.
00:51:38.18\00:51:39.21
I have a list of things
that she's called in this book.
00:51:53.49\00:51:57.90
She is called our
refuge, our throne of grace.
00:51:57.93\00:52:01.91
She's the light of the sun.
00:52:01.94\00:52:03.96
She is our life. She
changes and transforms lives.
00:52:03.99\00:52:08.06
She protects us
from the power of Satan.
00:52:08.09\00:52:10.53
She is our propitiation.
00:52:10.56\00:52:12.47
She has a name
that is above all names.
00:52:12.50\00:52:15.04
If we die we have
assurance of life in her.
00:52:15.07\00:52:18.82
All power is given to
her in heaven and on Earth.
00:52:18.85\00:52:22.41
She is all powerful.
00:52:22.44\00:52:23.58
These are terms that
are used in the book.
00:52:23.61\00:52:25.37
These are not my terms.
00:52:25.40\00:52:26.92
These are terms that
are used that are taught by
00:52:26.95\00:52:29.05
Roman Catholic theologians
throughout the course of
00:52:29.08\00:52:31.31
Roman Catholic history.
00:52:31.34\00:52:32.37
She is all powerful.
00:52:32.40\00:52:33.79
She's the morning star.
00:52:33.82\00:52:35.26
She's the mercy seat.
00:52:35.29\00:52:36.80
She crushes the serpent's head.
00:52:36.83\00:52:38.64
In fact, if you look at
the Vulgate, the Roman Catholic
00:52:38.67\00:52:41.51
translation, it says,
She shall crush your head.
00:52:41.54\00:52:47.89
It doesn't say He, it
says she shall crush your head.
00:52:47.92\00:52:51.45
Because they totally
mistranslate the text and apply
00:52:51.48\00:52:54.10
it to Mary, saying that
Mary was going to crush the
00:52:54.13\00:52:56.87
head of the serpent.
00:52:56.96\00:52:58.07
This book calls her the
pillar of cloud and fire.
00:52:58.10\00:53:02.80
We can cast out
devils in her name.
00:53:02.83\00:53:05.72
She is the water of life.
00:53:05.75\00:53:07.12
She's the peacemaker.
00:53:07.15\00:53:08.18
She's the tower of refuge.
00:53:08.21\00:53:09.78
She draws all men to herself.
00:53:09.81\00:53:11.74
She gives eternal life.
00:53:11.77\00:53:12.82
She is worthy of being praised.
00:53:12.85\00:53:14.66
She is our hope. We can
be saved by Mary's merits.
00:53:14.69\00:53:17.72
She is the rainbow of promise.
00:53:17.75\00:53:19.51
She died, her body saw no
corruption, she resurrected,
00:53:19.54\00:53:23.60
and ascended on the third day.
00:53:23.63\00:53:26.12
What do you think?
00:53:26.15\00:53:27.18
And yet Protestants today
are saying, Let's all just
00:53:32.21\00:53:35.27
join together and forget
about our doctrinal differences.
00:53:35.30\00:53:39.72
Are Protestants willing to
come to the point where they say
00:53:39.75\00:53:44.01
that we should
confess our sins to a priest?
00:53:44.04\00:53:46.11
Are Protestants at the point
where they say that a human
00:53:46.14\00:53:50.65
being can give you
an indulgence for sin?
00:53:50.68\00:53:53.17
Our Protestants ready to say
that without Mary there would
00:53:53.20\00:53:57.05
have been no plan of salvation?
00:53:57.08\00:53:58.67
That she's co-redeemer,
and she's our mediator?
00:53:58.70\00:54:01.42
And that she has to
mediate between us, and Jesus,
00:54:01.45\00:54:04.41
and then Jesus
goes to the Father.
00:54:04.44\00:54:05.92
But she has to
mediate with Jesus first.
00:54:05.95\00:54:07.64
Are they willing to
accept that the apocrypha
00:54:07.67\00:54:12.32
belonged to scripture?
00:54:12.35\00:54:13.38
I mean are Protestants willing
to cast aside all of these
00:54:13.41\00:54:17.71
differences, theological
differences, which many have
00:54:17.74\00:54:20.74
to do with salvation,
and simply sweep them under
00:54:20.77\00:54:24.08
the rug and say, Oh let's just
all unite, and let's get along.
00:54:24.11\00:54:27.39
That's what
Protestantism is doing today,
00:54:27.42\00:54:31.26
because we live in a
post-modern world where truth
00:54:31.29\00:54:33.85
no longer matters.
00:54:33.88\00:54:34.91
Doctrine no longer matters.
00:54:34.94\00:54:37.68
Belief no longer matters.
00:54:37.71\00:54:39.12
But let me tell
you, your beliefs soon
00:54:39.15\00:54:41.32
become your practice.
00:54:41.35\00:54:42.38
Your belief system
becomes your practice.
00:54:42.41\00:54:45.54
And so what we believe is
very important in our lives.
00:54:45.57\00:54:50.23
So the final issue is going
to be, what is your authority?
00:54:50.26\00:54:54.20
Is your authority the
word, the written word of God,
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as it's found in Scripture,
or is your authority tradition?
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Are Protestants, like
Tony Palmer and others,
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willing to reach the point where
they say, Oh it doesn't really
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matter whether the Roman
Catholic Church teaches that
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there's a purgatory,
and that there's a limbo,
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and there's an
eternally burning hell.
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It doesn't matter if the
Roman Catholic Church says that
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Sunday is the day of rest.
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None of that really matters.
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Lets just do what Jesus
said, That they may all be one,
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even as You and I are one.
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Well, it's interesting.
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Do you think that God
the Father, and God the Son
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have conflicting theologies?
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Do you think the Father and Son
have a different belief system,
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and different practices?
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No! They're one because
they're on the same page.
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So Jesus prayed, I want
all of My people to be one,
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as I and My Father are one.
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Now if there wasn't any
discrepancy between the Father
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and the Son, in their practice
and belief system, why should we
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say, Oh, let's unite even if we
have conflicting points of view?
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That's not unity at all.
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In fact, unity that is not based
on the word of God is meant
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ultimately to crumble to pieces.
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And that will be the last
topic that we're going to study,
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the man who built
his house upon the rock.
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When the flood came,
and when the winds came,
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the house remained firm because
it was built on the rock.
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And the Rock is
Christ and His Word.
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But the individual
who built on the sand?
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That's human traditions
and human speculations,
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like the scribes
and the Pharisees.
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When the winds of strife
came, and when the floods of
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persecution came, the
house fell because it was not
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built upon the
rock of God's word.
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Ellen White wrote a chapter
in The Great Controversy titled,
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Our Only Safeguard.
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Everybody should
read that chapter in
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The Great Controversy.
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The only safeguard of God's
people in the end time is found
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in taking God strictly
at His word as it is written
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in His holy book. Not adding
or taking away, or twisting,
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or giving our own
interpretation, but by living
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by every word that proceeds
out of the mouth of God.
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God's people have to live
simply by a thus saith the Lord.
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