Sermon #S045 - Role Play (Part 2) 00:00:05.97\00:00:18.68 Welcome to the Breath of Life Television Ministries broadcast with Pastor Debleaire Snell! 00:00:18.71\00:00:26.15 In today's episode, Pastor Snell will continue part two of the powerful Message titled: 00:00:26.19\00:00:32.89 “Role Play” Now, let's go deeper into the word of God! 00:00:32.93\00:00:40.30 Snell: And one of the things that causes me to rejoice is 00:00:40.34\00:00:49.01 that he knows you, and he still wants you. Oh, y'all acting brand new up in here today. 00:00:49.04\00:00:54.32 One of the testimonies in the Bible that I never quite understood was the woman by the 00:00:54.35\00:01:00.86 well. After Jesus talks to her, she leaves her water pot goes into the city, tells all the 00:01:00.89\00:01:07.40 men, come see a man who knows everything I ever done, and 00:01:07.46\00:01:12.20 guess what? The Bible says that they all came into the city to meet Jesus, and it didn't ever 00:01:12.23\00:01:18.37 make sense to me because if you say, come meet a man that knows everything I've ever done, I 00:01:18.41\00:01:25.38 don't want to see that man. I'm scared about what that man might say. Come on and say Amen, 00:01:25.41\00:01:28.75 but the reason the testimony was so powerful is that she is 00:01:28.78\00:01:32.52 saying, I know a man that knows everything I've ever done, but 00:01:32.55\00:01:36.86 guess what? He didn't use it against me. He didn't indict me, but he loved me regardless of it 00:01:36.89\00:01:47.67 all, that Jesus still loves us, and is there anybody grateful that in spite all of your grime 00:01:47.70\00:01:53.17 and your dirt and having to say I'm sorry over and over again, that Jesus still looks beyond 00:01:53.21\00:02:04.59 our faults and sees our needs. It's crazy God loves us so much that it doesn't matter where 00:02:04.62\00:02:09.42 we've been. Doesn't matter what you've done, it doesn't matter where God found you. Real talk, 00:02:09.46\00:02:18.07 give me a little license on this. I'm not trying to be obscene, but I remember growing 00:02:18.10\00:02:22.20 up, man, when I was around fourth grade, man, the toy of my childhood was a little toy 00:02:22.24\00:02:29.81 called He-Man, anybody remember He-man. Had a villain called Skeletor, castle Grayskull, the 00:02:29.84\00:02:31.95 whole name, and I remember I had saved up my little allowance to get me a little he-man action 00:02:31.98\00:02:36.08 figure, and I remember I would eat at the table with He-man. 00:02:36.12\00:02:38.89 I would go to bed with he-man, I would play outside with He-man, but one of the things we were 00:02:38.92\00:02:43.32 not supposed to do, we were not supposed to take He-man to school, but I had gotten down 00:02:43.36\00:02:47.03 with some of my friends and we had decided to bring our action figures to school and we 00:02:47.03\00:02:51.63 couldn't play with them in class, and so the only way we could bring them out was, and we 00:02:51.67\00:02:55.50 went into the bathroom, and so we're in the bathroom playing with our little He-man action 00:02:55.54\00:02:58.47 figures, and I was so excited because I had the best one in 00:02:58.51\00:03:01.74 the group. I had paid for it, and I remember as one of the teachers was going in, 00:03:01.78\00:03:05.38 I had to run into the little stall to kind of hide and get 00:03:05.41\00:03:08.72 away, and so I had set He-man on the back of the little commode, and it's crazy because when I 00:03:08.75\00:03:14.22 looked inside, somebody had left a mess inside, and it's crazy because when I was bumbling 00:03:14.26\00:03:20.66 around, I bumped up against the commode and He-man fell inside. Now, now again, now if y'all 00:03:20.70\00:03:29.50 don't know this about the pastor, I got a thing about public bathrooms. I ain't going 00:03:29.54\00:03:35.08 to lie, if that joint ain't right, I will turn around and hold it till Jesus comes. That's 00:03:35.11\00:03:39.41 who I am. I've been that way since I was a child, and it's crazy because my friends 00:03:39.45\00:03:45.65 automatically assume, He-man, he gone like he's done, he's inside of the mess, but I loved He-man. 00:03:45.69\00:04:03.44 I paid for He-man and before I knew it, I was rolling up my sleeve, lifting up the lid and 00:04:03.47\00:04:16.05 reaching down, washing He-man, bleaching him when I got home, and he was on the mantle by the 00:04:16.08\00:04:22.89 time my grandma came home from work. Now the problem is y'all still looking in the commode. 00:04:22.92\00:04:27.13 How many of us know God didn't find all of y'all on the altar? He found some of us in the aww, 00:04:27.20\00:04:35.94 he found some of us in our mess, but anybody thankful that he didn't hesitate, he got right 00:04:35.97\00:04:47.12 down in it, washed you, cleansed you, paid for you, and redeemed you by his grace. Are y'all 00:04:47.15\00:05:08.94 hearing me today friends? Second thing I need you to get about grace, is that grace is not just 00:05:08.97\00:05:17.48 informed about what you are about your past, grace knows 00:05:17.51\00:05:21.38 about your future. It's amazing to me friends how much information Grace is able to 00:05:21.42\00:05:36.77 absorb, because not only does God say go marry her knowing her past, he says marry her knowing 00:05:36.80\00:05:42.70 her present, but he says, listen, Hosea, especially in chapter 2, he says, listen, 00:05:42.74\00:05:47.21 Hosea, you going to be good to her. You're going to treat her right, you going to set her up, 00:05:47.24\00:05:51.28 you going to give her a house, you going to get her pedicures, you're going to get her cleaned 00:05:51.31\00:06:01.09 up, but as soon as she gets a little restless, she going to go right back out on them streets 00:06:01.12\00:06:08.86 and I'm going to commission you to go pay and bring her back home, and a part of the 00:06:08.90\00:06:22.78 salacious nature of the role play is that God accepts us. Not just knowing what we have done, 00:06:22.81\00:06:26.05 that God called you knowing what you would do. Now, this is going to mess up the righteousness by 00:06:26.08\00:06:32.35 works folk, but I need you to know the shadow of the cross doesn't just go back to man's 00:06:32.39\00:06:45.73 original sin. It goes forward to provide enough grace for man's final sin. He's saying she going 00:06:45.77\00:06:52.67 to stay in them streets and you're going to have to keep chasing her and bringing her 00:06:52.71\00:06:59.25 back, and what I need somebody to understand this fundamental truth, is that as long as the 00:06:59.28\00:07:07.99 door of probation is open, there is no cap on the grace of God. There is no threshold that you 00:07:08.02\00:07:15.80 can't trespass. You cannot get beyond the reach of the Almighty God. Now the reason I'm saying 00:07:15.83\00:07:24.24 this is because there are some amongst us that are carrying this heavy condemnation that 00:07:24.27\00:07:37.59 somehow we can't be redeemed, because we have disappointed God too many times, and some of you 00:07:37.62\00:07:43.63 heard me say this, you may not agree, but I need you to understand you can't disappoint 00:07:43.66\00:07:50.23 God, because disappointment is based upon unmet expectations. Disappointment suggests that God 00:07:50.27\00:07:57.07 expected you to be here, when the truth is you're performing way down here, and it suggests 00:07:57.11\00:08:04.55 that God didn't really know what he was getting into when he got into a relationship with you, 00:08:04.58\00:08:12.95 but God can't be disappointed because he know everything you are going to do before you ever 00:08:12.99\00:08:21.86 did it. In other words, was Jesus disappointed when Peter denied him? He told Peter 00:08:21.90\00:08:33.81 beforehand that he would deny him. He wasn't disappointed when Judas betrayed him, he told 00:08:33.84\00:08:40.02 Judas he was going to betray him. He wasn't disappointed with Adam sin, he had already made 00:08:40.05\00:08:47.29 provision for Adam's redemption. He wasn't surprised when Job stood strong, he told Satan that 00:08:47.32\00:08:50.29 he would. In other words, there is nothing that you do that surprises God. He made provision 00:08:50.33\00:08:54.30 for it and he planned for it so that there is nothing... oh, y'all hear me today church, and 00:08:54.36\00:08:56.03 now I need you to make sure that you understand this, that just because God knows that you're 00:08:56.06\00:09:06.24 going to sin and God need you and makes provision for it, that doesn't mean he endorses it. Are 00:09:06.27\00:09:10.95 y'all hearing me today? So first John chapter 2 in verse 1. I write these things that you do 00:09:10.98\00:09:17.85 not... [Congregation: Sin] Sin, but if any man sins, we have an advocate with the Father Jesus 00:09:17.89\00:09:22.66 Christ the righteous. In other words, I need you to understand that grace is so amazing that 00:09:22.69\00:09:26.29 God creates provision, simply because he knows what we're going to do. It's crazy, I 00:09:26.33\00:09:34.40 remember when the kids was a little bit smaller and we would go to people's house for Sabbath 00:09:34.44\00:09:39.17 for lunch, you know how it is? You get to somebody's house and you turn around in the backseat 00:09:39.21\00:09:51.95 and you threaten them. Don't y'all go in here and act like y'all ain't got no sense. I 00:09:51.99\00:09:54.36 don't want to see you in on the floor in your dress. I don't want to see you outside in your 00:09:54.39\00:09:59.43 church clothes. I don't want to see you running all the way around, getting dirty and messed 00:09:59.46\00:10:04.93 up. Oh I'm I by myself? Amen. I got these PKs, they photographer's kids. Can I get a 00:10:04.97\00:10:11.57 witness today? Amen, so 1 day we're getting ready to go to somebody's house, and then when 00:10:11.61\00:10:20.52 we find out that they're going to be a bunch of kids there. It's crazy because what we do 00:10:20.55\00:10:25.92 when we find out the Dudley kids are going to be there, some other kids are going to be 00:10:25.95\00:10:30.76 there, we've warned them and said, this is not what you're supposed to do, but because we 00:10:30.79\00:10:34.60 know our kids, what we do is we bring a change of clothes, and it's crazy before we say Grace, 00:10:34.63\00:10:42.97 my daughter is on the floor in her dress, the boys is outside in full sweat, but guess what? 00:10:43.00\00:10:51.15 Even though we didn't condone it, guess what? We bought provision, so they didn't have 00:10:51.18\00:10:56.58 to walk around in filthy garments, and God is saying, I'm not endorsing it, but guess 00:10:56.62\00:11:07.20 what? I got a change of clothes for you so that you can put on my robe of righteousness, and 00:11:07.23\00:11:15.60 see the thing that I want to debunk really quickly friends of mine, is the myth of fragile 00:11:15.64\00:11:21.44 salvation. See, the reason for some of us church or religion is not fun and the reason we don't 00:11:21.48\00:11:28.98 have the joy of salvation is because we don't have the assurance of salvation. It is 00:11:29.02\00:11:35.69 crazy because most of us still see God as prosecutor and not advocate. Most of us still see 00:11:35.72\00:11:40.33 him as inspector and not savior. Pardon me what I'm saying this then, we still see him as 00:11:40.36\00:11:43.93 principle and not guidance counselor, and see what some of us need to have happen is we 00:11:43.97\00:11:50.77 need to have the veil removed from the character of God so that you can see Jesus as he is. 00:11:50.81\00:11:59.48 Are y'all hearing what I'm saying today? Look at this quote here from the book Steps to 00:11:59.51\00:12:11.96 Christ chapter 10. This is literally why Jesus Christ had to come to earth. He didn't just 00:12:11.99\00:12:19.30 come to die friends, he had to come to show us what God was like. See, she literally says 00:12:19.33\00:12:21.60 the enemy of good blinded mind blinded the minds of men so that they looked upon God with what 00:12:21.64\00:12:32.88 fear, they thought of him as severe and unforgiving. Satan led men to conceive of God as a 00:12:32.91\00:12:44.13 being whose chief attribute was stern justice, one who is a severe judge, a harsh exacting 00:12:44.16\00:12:55.60 creditor, and do you know who Satan used to purport that image? The church. He pictured 00:12:55.64\00:13:08.15 the creator as a being who is watching with jealous eye to discern the errors and mistakes 00:13:08.18\00:13:15.92 of men, that he may visit judgments upon them. It was to remove this dark shadow by 00:13:15.96\00:13:25.13 revealing to the world the infinite love of God that Jesus came to live amongst men. Are 00:13:25.17\00:13:32.24 y'all hearing me today friends? So that God knew who they were, knew who she was, and pledged 00:13:32.27\00:13:39.85 himself to her. Now this going to trip you out, so when Hosea gets with Gomer symbolizing what 00:13:39.88\00:13:47.32 God says when he gets with us. You know what God is saying is that spiritually adultery is not 00:13:47.36\00:13:55.73 grounds for divorce. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, what God is saying is that if you're in a 00:13:55.76\00:14:02.34 relationship with me, there ain't no such thing as irreconcilable differences. God 00:14:02.37\00:14:05.51 is saying, I'm giving you this promise that he which has begun a good work in you shall 00:14:05.54\00:14:09.31 continue it even until the day of Jesus Christ. Are y'all hear me today friends? And I need 00:14:09.34\00:14:23.86 somebody to understand this critical truth, that even though there is such a thing as a lake 00:14:23.89\00:14:31.93 of fire and and hell, I need you to know that hell is not God divorcing man, hell is man 00:14:31.97\00:14:43.45 divorcing God, because remember what Jesus said, the everlasting fire is prepared for the devil 00:14:43.48\00:14:56.73 and his angels. It is a divorce or a separation of man pulling away from an eternally loving 00:14:56.76\00:15:00.10 God. Third thing this teaches us, listen, I'm almost done watch this. One of the things 00:15:00.13\00:15:09.67 that trips me out about Gomer and us, is that Gomer is so dysfunctional that she can't 00:15:09.70\00:15:18.65 even tell when she's winning. See, we so fallen that we can't tell the difference between 00:15:18.68\00:15:31.79 freedom and bondage. That God has been so good to us, but our hearts are so unsettled that we 00:15:31.83\00:15:39.43 can't even tell when we are winning in Christ, so she's got a man who loves her, who's going 00:15:39.47\00:15:46.68 to provide for her, that's going to rub her feet when she get tired. That's going to make sure 00:15:46.71\00:15:54.55 she has everything that she needs, but see, the problem is she has been in a transactional 00:15:54.58\00:15:59.05 world so long that she don't even know how to function in a relational world. In other 00:15:59.09\00:16:07.76 words, when them streets come calling, there's just something inside of her that feels like 00:16:07.76\00:16:09.96 she's got to respond. She is so messed up that unconditional love, protection and commitment 00:16:10.00\00:16:19.91 feels unfair to her, and because she's that broken, she dismisses them for the streets. I'm going 00:16:19.94\00:16:27.62 to offend when I say this because essentially again, you're remembering what the role 00:16:27.65\00:16:36.93 play is. He's saying, my people are so messed up that they see my goodness as bondage. They so 00:16:36.96\00:16:42.96 messed up that they see my law as restriction. They so messed up that they see life in the 00:16:43.00\00:16:51.11 club as more appealing than life in the sun. Are y'all hearing what I'm saying today? And I 00:16:51.14\00:16:58.15 want to say this to every teenage church child that's on the verge of going out into the 00:16:58.18\00:17:04.02 world, or every adult that's in the world in response to life growing up in the church. That 00:17:04.05\00:17:08.59 there is a Gomer like quality in you, because Gomer's flaw is not just that she does wrong, it's 00:17:08.62\00:17:15.16 her inability to be able to see when she's winning. Let me just say this, because even if you've 00:17:15.20\00:17:19.33 grown up in an imperfect religious tradition, maybe your parents didn't do everything the 00:17:19.37\00:17:24.51 right way. Maybe they didn't explain everything right, maybe they overemphasized some things 00:17:24.54\00:17:31.81 in a way that they should not have done, but I need you to understand that if you grew up 00:17:31.85\00:17:37.29 in the church and your parents taught you how to pray, and they brought you to Sabbath school 00:17:37.32\00:17:41.06 and they gave you a Christian education, I need you to understand that you grew up with 00:17:41.09\00:17:47.36 the upper hand. Again, I don't want to invalidate the feelings of some, but at some point in 00:17:47.40\00:17:52.77 time, some of us got to get past this church or Adventist scar tissue that says, because I had 00:17:52.80\00:18:02.14 to come to church as a kid, I'm not going to do it as an adult because I had to come to Sabbath 00:18:02.18\00:18:11.52 school as a kid, I'm not going to do it as an adult because I had to come to prayer meeting as 00:18:11.55\00:18:18.36 a kid, I'm not going to do it as an adult, because we had to have worship as kids, we're not going 00:18:18.39\00:18:24.53 to do it as an adult. It's crazy because all that stuff that your mama made you do as kids was 00:18:24.57\00:18:30.47 actually giving you a head start. It was actually giving you the upper hand. It was 00:18:30.51\00:18:38.88 actually giving you an advantage and a boost, and it's crazy, the logic that says because I had to 00:18:38.91\00:18:49.59 as a child that I'm not going to do it as an adult. You don't say, because I had to go to 00:18:49.62\00:18:51.76 school as a child, I'm not going to do it as an adult. You don't say, I don't brush my teeth now 00:18:51.79\00:18:58.70 that I'm grown, because they made me brush my teeth when I was kids. You don't say, because 00:18:58.73\00:19:07.58 I had to take a shower as a kid, I don't take showers now that I'm grown. We don't say because 00:19:07.61\00:19:14.98 I had to clean my room as a child, I don't clean my room as an adult. You realize that the 00:19:15.02\00:19:23.83 only thing from childhood that some of us left behind was our religion, and if the only thing 00:19:23.86\00:19:30.40 you left behind was your religion, it wasn't your upbringing, it's your hearts. 00:19:30.43\00:19:39.44 Are y'all hearing what the pastor is saying? And I need you to understand that the response 00:19:39.47\00:19:41.11 to bad religion should not be to become irreligious. Your response to bad religion ought 00:19:41.14\00:19:45.31 to be to say, let me find true religion. Let me find joy in Jesus, hope in the Spirit, 00:19:45.35\00:19:51.42 liberty in Christ, and do it the way that Christ intended, so don't let your adult irreligion 00:19:51.45\00:19:58.19 be a response to imperfect childhood religion, because I need somebody to understand, and 00:19:58.23\00:20:05.17 again, I am, my folk provide, they protected me some from some of the advent is crazy, so I 00:20:05.20\00:20:11.77 ain't got all that, but I need you to understand. How many of us understand that don't no 00:20:11.81\00:20:14.08 parents get it all right, or y'all acting brand new. I'm trying to raise my kids the best 00:20:14.11\00:20:21.28 I can, but I can tell you that it is imperfect, but I need somebody to understand that if 00:20:21.32\00:20:29.49 you grew up in the church, guess what? You're winning. Oh God. See, y'all still don't know 00:20:29.52\00:20:34.86 you're winning. If you learn how to pray, guess what? You are winning. If you learn to study 00:20:34.93\00:20:44.37 your Bible, guess what? You are winning. If you learn how to testify, guess what? You are 00:20:44.41\00:20:55.95 winning. If you are giving a Christian education, guess what? You are winning. If you learn 00:20:55.98\00:21:00.92 that God is a redeemer, guess what? You are winning. Instead of looking at everything that 00:21:00.96\00:21:07.86 was wrong, thank God that you got some kind of foundation to know God for yourself, and 00:21:07.93\00:21:15.37 instead of abandoning it and throwing the baby out with the bath water, hold on to the baby. 00:21:15.40\00:21:24.75 Are y'all hearing what I'm saying today? And there's got to come to a place in time where we 00:21:24.78\00:21:34.72 look and stop looking at all the imperfections of the church and look at the perfection of the 00:21:34.76\00:21:41.80 savior. Stop judging Christ by measuring him against his hypocrites, but do I have at 00:21:41.83\00:21:47.97 least 5 or 6 folks that are just thankful that he came? You are thankful that he died. You are 00:21:48.00\00:21:56.01 thankful that he calls, you are thankful that he redeems. It hadn't been perfect or ideal 00:21:56.04\00:22:13.36 along the way, but guess what? Despite all of my flaws and my mess, guess what? He still calls 00:22:13.40\00:22:20.90 us by name and he allows us to enter into fellowship with him. Are y'all hearing the pastor 00:22:20.94\00:22:22.47 today? I'm done. I'm done, I'm done. I'm done, but I need somebody that's on the verge of 00:22:22.50\00:22:29.28 heading out and somebody who's already out. You got to get to a place where you realize you're 00:22:29.31\00:22:34.58 winning and you don't even know it. You are only a loser in your own mind. See, the problem is we 00:22:34.62\00:22:41.12 get so distorted, our nature is so fallen that we don't even know freedom from bondage. We so 00:22:41.16\00:22:49.63 messed up. Do you realize that sobriety is not bondage? Sobriety is freedom. Oh God. No, 00:22:49.66\00:22:58.71 it's when you have to that's bondage. See, we walking around here. See, the problem is we 00:22:58.74\00:23:01.31 don't know the difference between protection and restriction. Do you get what I'm 00:23:01.34\00:23:03.58 saying? It's crazy. The whole rest of the world trying to get Sabbath off and y'all run around 00:23:03.61\00:23:11.09 here, "Well pastor, is it okay if I do this on this on the Sabbath? Can I go to work?" No, 00:23:11.12\00:23:21.73 we can't tell the difference. Are you hearing what I'm saying? And what I'm saying to somebody 00:23:21.76\00:23:28.34 is that when you find Jesus for yourself, come to conclusions for yourself, get settled in 00:23:28.37\00:23:38.51 truth for yourself, and not allow your whole adult experience to be response to 00:23:38.55\00:23:45.39 childhood trauma. Are y'all hearing what I'm saying today? Listen, I'm done. What do I want 00:23:45.42\00:23:48.09 to do just briefly, go ahead and play something for me, is I want to invite somebody into 00:23:48.12\00:23:52.63 fellowship with Jesus. There is somebody who is carrying heavy weight, heavy strain, and it's 00:23:52.66\00:23:59.13 crazy because there's this sense of condemnation that we think comes from the spirit. The 00:23:59.17\00:24:11.18 spirit sends conviction that points you to God, but you know what is embedded in every sin? 00:24:11.21\00:24:19.39 It is the voice of condemnation that drives you away from God, so even sometimes when you come 00:24:19.42\00:24:24.06 to church and we running around thinking everybody looking about you and talking about you. No, 00:24:24.09\00:24:30.70 everybody's just trying to worship, some of that condemnation ain't coming from 00:24:30.73\00:24:37.17 out, sometimes that's just iniquity trying to push you back out the door. Are y'all hearing 00:24:37.21\00:24:41.58 what I'm saying today friends? I need somebody to get to a place where you stop carrying the 00:24:41.61\00:24:48.78 residue, the stain, the uncertainty, and you start walking in the amazing grace 00:24:48.82\00:24:55.59 that was afforded to us by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Listen, I need somebody to 00:24:55.62\00:25:03.00 understand. For that person who feels like I've disappointed God, I've messed up. I've gone 00:25:03.03\00:25:09.74 too far, I've done all this. Jesus knew who you were when he called you. When he first called 00:25:09.77\00:25:18.15 Peter, he knew that there was going to come a day where 3 times he was going to act like I 00:25:18.18\00:25:22.05 didn't even know him, but he told Peter on on the front end, he says, you're going to deny 00:25:22.08\00:25:27.76 me, but when you get converted, strengthen your brethren, so Christ didn't just see his 00:25:27.79\00:25:37.13 failure, he already saw his redemption on the other side, so guess what? Christ doesn't just 00:25:37.17\00:25:48.64 see your mess ups, guess what? He sees who you will become as long as you abide in him. I need 00:25:48.68\00:25:52.71 somebody to know that his grace is so amazing, that if you don't give up on God, guess what? God 00:25:52.75\00:25:58.59 won't ever give up on you. If you never walk away from God, God will never walk away from 00:25:58.62\00:26:05.86 you, and it's crazy because I want to encourage somebody on 00:26:05.89\00:26:12.00 sanctification journey. What you ought to do is you ought to get out of the promise making 00:26:12.03\00:26:19.74 business and get in the covenant business, so you're a young believer, you mess up and you 00:26:19.77\00:26:25.91 get up early next morning, you say, "Lord, I promise I'll never do it again." That's 8 o'clock, 00:26:25.95\00:26:33.52 and by 11 o'clock you done did it again. I'm I by myself. Oh, I ain't going to never do it 00:26:33.56\00:26:39.93 again, but Saturday night, you done it again, and it's funny the reason you out not make 00:26:39.96\00:26:45.40 promises is because again you don't realize how fallen your nature is, because when you keep 00:26:45.43\00:26:50.51 making promises, guess what? You begin to feel guilt because you know how you've broken, so I 00:26:50.54\00:28:05.95 remember, after this falling again and again and again. I made God kind of one last 00:28:05.98\00:28:29.30 covenant. I really just made the covenant that Jacob made with God. the faith journey, I just 00:28:29.34\00:28:44.35